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Stalkers vs. Creeps: Dissecting Romantic Comedy Tropes
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Time travel with us as we dust off an unreleased gem from our podcast vault! This episode pulls back the curtain on Ben Stiller's romantic comedy career through a modern lens, focusing on "There's Something About Mary" (1998) and "Along Came Polly" (2004).
What happens when romantic pursuit crosses into stalker territory? We tackle this uncomfortable question head-on, examining how these films portray men who lie, manipulate, and scheme their way into women's hearts as somehow endearing. From private investigators to stolen identities, these rom-com tropes feel significantly different when viewed through today's cultural understanding.
The conversation takes fascinating turns as we dissect Ben Stiller's typecasting as the awkward guy seeking love, Cameron Diaz's portrayal as the quintessential "cool girl," and Philip Seymour Hoffman's scene-stealing performance that gave us the term "sharted." We also share our own cringe-worthy dating experiences, including elaborate lies we've encountered and bathroom disasters that rival even the most uncomfortable movie scenes.
What's particularly revealing is how these films—despite their problematic elements—continue to hold nostalgic appeal while simultaneously failing basic character development tests. Are these movies popcorn crowd-pleasers or kernels for a specific audience? Our ratings might surprise you!
Whether you're a fan of 90s/2000s comedies or simply fascinated by how rapidly cultural norms around dating have evolved, this episode offers both laughs and thoughtful analysis. Subscribe now for more double features that blend entertainment with cultural critique!
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Season 2 Time Capsule Episode
Speaker 1Welcome to Season 2 of the Double Feature Podcast . Today we're opening up the time capsule . We'll be enjoying one of our unreleased episodes from a few years ago . Think of it as a conversation frozen in time . Buckle up and get ready to time travel in three , two , one .
Ben Stiller Spotlight Introduction
Speaker 2Today's topic is a spotlight episode of Ben Stiller . We will be reviewing Something About Mary and Along Came Polly .
Speaker 3starting off with Something About Mary , Ted's dream prom date with Mary never happened due to an embarrassing injury at her home . Years later , ted hires Pat Hewley to track down Mary so he can reconnect with her . Ted hires Pat Hewley to track down Mary so he can reconnect with her . Pat lies to Ted about Mary and he finds out everything he can about her to trick her into dating him . Instead , ted travels to meet Mary and has to weave through the web of lies that Pat and Mary's friend Tucker have woven to try to win her over .
Speaker 2This movie is rated R . It's considered a romantic comedy . It's directed by Robert and Peter Farley . I don't know if it's Farrell or Farley . It's two R's and two L's and a Y . I don't know English language , I don't know . They don't borrow me . They're also credited as the writer . Some of the writers here you might recognize their work in Dumb and Dumber they wrote and directedumber Wrote and directed . It Wrote , directed and produced me myself and Irene Directed and produced Osmosis Jones , shallow , howl .
Speaker 3I like that one .
Speaker 2I'm just Jack Black fans Stuck on you . I don't know if you watched that one . I think that one was always just like what is it Like a cop out to Dumb and Dumber ?
Speaker 3right .
Speaker 2People wanted more Dumb and Dumber . They couldn't get it . Fever Pitch he directed that one . Peter Farley at least did that one . I was like I don't know the Heartbreak Kid I can see that I didn kid . I can see that I didn't like that movie . I didn't like it either . Hall pass okay , I didn't care for that one . No .
Speaker 2The three stooges 2012 release I didn't watch that one , but I thought it was gonna cast it . Uh , the writers are also peter farley and robert farley , also ed dexter and john j strass and together they worked on this . They wrote Head Over Heels . I don't know if you watched that one . They wrote the Lizzie
Something About Mary: Core Plot Review
Speaker 2McGuire movie Explains a lot why I picked this movie , the Wild . I don't know if you've heard that one no . And Santa Claus 3 .
Speaker 2Oh okay , the Escape Claws . That's a good one . It was , it was a good one . It was , it was a good one . Is that the one with the Ellen guy ? What's his name ?
Speaker 3I think so he plays the villain , the Frost , yeah .
Speaker 2Oh , okay , now I'll watch it this Christmas , because I heard bad reviews about it . I liked it . This movie was released in July of 1998 . I think I was seven , I was eight . The box office Girls USA was 176.5 million , almost two hours long . It's pretty much an hour and 58 minutes Starring , of course , miss Cameron Diaz as Mary Matt Dillon as Healy , ben Stiller as Ted Lee Evans , as Tucker , the character that's on the fake crutches , chris Elliott as Dom , also called Woogie , and Lynn Shane , which is Magda the neighbor .
Speaker 3She was in the Insidious movies . Oh , is that her ? Yeah , her voice . She has a very distinct voice .
Speaker 2Oh , okay , I haven't seen those , but I love when you can tell an actor from their voice , so jump right off the bat . This movie is a rom-com . Is it a stalking ?
Speaker 3Is it a rom-com ? What's romantic about this ?
Speaker 2I know I was like you know I find this movie funny . I also kind of like that Woogie was stalking her but like not really to be with her . He just like wanted all her stuff , he wanted her shoes , like he never like really was . Just like I want to tap that ass , however , his white man way of saying that would be or like I miss you .
Speaker 2He kind of like indicated that but like he didn't attack her , kidnap her or take her or force something onto her . He went straight for her shoes . So I feel like that's how they worked around it . Yeah , you know , it's like he has this obsession of her . He doesn't even care to be with her . He just has this obsession of her . So I think that was the loophole about it , because every time I watch this movie I'm like it's , it's right there , but you're just like nope yeah nope , we're not gonna make a rom-com about that I don't know .
Speaker 3I I definitely . I think he was my favorite character , though woogie , that was a scene his wife yes , where they're watching cops . And he was like , oh my god , it's ted , I knew he was gay . And her , his wife's head like pops up and he just like shoves her back down
Debating the Stalker Dynamic
Speaker 3yeah , that very real , very real , authentic male acting going on right there .
Speaker 2I'm sure he's like . His face was like why do you care ? Yeah , kind of a reaction to it . You know , very original , but I think , yeah , I think this is actually well casted . I think the other stalkers for sure is is healy yeah , for sure it's stalker , well yeah well , they're all stalkers , I guess ted , I feel like unintentional , yeah , like so .
Speaker 3At first I was like that's kind of weird that you would hire a personal investigator to find someone you went to high school with remember y'all , this is 98 no facebook yeah , myspace , I think Napster was barely out .
Speaker 2I don't know , so that's music .
Speaker 3Yeah , so that's what I was thinking . I was like , well , if this was today , he would probably try to find her social media or something . So I'm like , is it ?
Speaker 2different . That's why I feel like he's not the stalker .
Speaker 3Yeah .
Speaker 2Everybody , everybody else , has looked up another person on social media . Yeah , whether it's professional or personal social medias , you know , like LinkedIn , uh-huh , I think people even search themselves . I don't know . Yeah , I Google myself , you see , I've Googled myself too , and so I think for sure ted is in a stalker , I think for sure healy is , and then woogie just has this unhealthy obsession , yeah , but he obviously is a stalker as well because he like manipulated ted , yeah , into getting that done because it wasn't really his idea . Yeah , you know , I don't know . Do you think he's a stalker ?
Speaker 3um , I think it came off more so , like , like , kind of like an addiction , like he had kicked the habit , for you know x amount of years he had his wife , he had kids and then now ted starts bringing up mary again and he's like back in it just never enough yeah , he tried to move on , it just wasn't it wasn't yeah , wasn't happy , wasn't so you think all of them are stalkers , them healy ted and woogie oh okay , I'll give ted a pass because I , because you bring up a good point like yeah you know , back in that day , maybe I don't , I don't know he can't afford a private investigator .
Speaker 2I don't think latinos , latinos will do their own work yeah you know what I mean ? Yeah , but I get what you're saying . I feel like it was very much influenced and manipulated by willie okay , but okay .
Speaker 3No , but the weird thing about ted was they were never boyfriend , girlfriend . They didn't even go on their date . So it was like what , 15 years later , right , and then he's still thinking about this girl like that you had like two conversations with . Like that's kind of weird he wasn't on the fence . Yeah , like he wasn't a stalker , but he had stalker vibes yeah , I feel like he had good intentions .
Speaker 2He just went about it the wrong way . Yeah , and I think , like , how do you tell somebody like miss you . I always want ? Because I thought about it too like what if he just came clean from the beginning ?
Speaker 2right and I think , everybody has these ideas about movies when you don't like something about it and you think about how , what could have made it different . And I thought about it like if he would have came forward . How do you come forward if a guy would have told you the truth from the jump , like I don't know if there's any way that he could say it nicely , safely , that would make a woman feel secure and safe yeah , no you know what I mean , especially because it's out of the state .
Speaker 2Right , she was out of state . Yeah , she was in florida , I think so I think that's the part that is like stalkery yeah it's not like she's still in the state . It's not like she's still in the same neighborhood , um , she has family . It's not like you can't if you would have contacted her family . Yeah , because you still live in that neighborhood right , yeah that's the thing .
Speaker 2And then I feel like he cleaned it up at the end , right when he was like we're all stuck , we're all fucked up , he took accountability . So yeah , that's the comedy in it . So who are you supposed to root for then ?
Speaker 3who ? Yeah , I'm like who's . She had like what ? Five dudes trying to come at her and I was like who ? Who are we rooting for ?
Speaker 2here it's too much work . Tell you that right now , those five dudes I don't know I wasn't rooting for , for ben stiller no , no , I feel like ted was the most on it , but brett was a victim like brett , pulled up because ted called him and told him about it and I'm like he was just a victim .
Speaker 2It was surprising to me that she chose Ted , yeah , and as a woman I'm like he's probably just . She's probably just picking it him , because she probably did feel a connection . And then at the end he came clean . And I'm one of those women that like if you come clean , they give you something away .
Speaker 3But then it was weird because she , like , did she say she was engaged to Brett , like or something , that they were going to get married , and then the lie that he was talking about her brother and stuff . It just seemed kind of weird to walk away from all of that to go be with some , some , some dude out of nowhere .
Speaker 2Yeah , this is the end . This is the part where I feel like if they would have ended it with her moving on with brett and then him leaving out the apartment and like getting a ticket , and then he falls in love with the ticket girl oh , that would be better , yeah you should write movies .
Speaker 2I will one day , but I mean , like you know , just like you could have changed it there , like not all of them need it . I know we want the happy ending , especially me , but that would have been especially in the comedy world . There's so much flexibility yeah for the happy ending . In comedy and comedy , anything fucking goes , and that's what I thought . I thought .
Speaker 3As much as I love this movie , I'm like that ending could have been better yeah , and then like I'm like cameron diaz is pretty but not I wasn't feeling her in this movie , so I I'm like she has like five dudes like all up on her .
Speaker 2I feel like it's because they were making her the stereotypical thing in the 90s . She was a dude's girl . Yeah , she likes sports . She doesn't care about her look . She has that natural beauty . She could probably fix a car . You know what I mean .
Speaker 3Yeah , you know what I mean . Yeah , when , when they were like at the restaurant talking about your perfect man or whatever , she was like I just want someone that I could go to a game and drink a beer with . And I'm like do you know how many women I know who just want to go to a game and drink a beer ? Like I'm like , bitch , you're not special .
Speaker 2I'll like I want to go to a game and drink a beer and I'm glad that her homegirls called it out yeah like you're looking for a basic bitch yeah out here like you're gonna have to be a little bit more specific and um , that's another thing that I did appreciate . It's like the women are not all , all of them are not like , because I think a lot of movies like that , especially in the 90s , it wasn't even that long ago and I'm just like , damn , look at these fucking movies like they're all following the same trope , the same logic , and it's very disappointing because it wasn't that long ago and I'm like the brainwash so I think y'all tell me , do you think ben stiller's typecasted ?
Speaker 2oh , because I I think that he's typecasted as a guy looking for love . Yeah , I could see that , like the , he had the love and it went wrong and now he's still looking for love .
Speaker 3I feel like he's just like it's always , like he's down on his luck . These crazy situations happen to him and he has , and it looks bad , right , right , and he has to explain what happens .
Speaker 2But Right , yeah , because okay , you have the heartbreak kid , which I didn't like . That film , yeah , I didn't like that film . Yeah , I didn't like that . I think the script is okay , but I don't think they executed it well . I didn't like how the actress came off . I feel like this isn't funny . I feel like this is a dude's movie , laughing and over-exaggerating how women act and they find it funny . That's how I thought the movie came about and I'm like this is a Ben Stiller film . His films usually aren't so directed towards the male audience . That's the thing I got with the Heartbreak Kid . I don't know if you felt that way . I haven't seen it .
Speaker 3I only saw it once . Don't watch it again , don't even bother .
Speaker 2Danny McBride comes out in there and he's my favorite , so I watch it for Danny .
Speaker 3I just remember she does this mad queef and she was like it's not what it sounds like , because it sounds like a fart she's so casual about it .
Speaker 2I've seen that actress in real life years ago and she's really pretty . Actually I like her . I like her too . But I I think that he is typecasted as a guy looking for love because that's what he was in the heartbreak kid and meet the parents , meet the parents . Even in the long came paulie yeah , like he got , you know , dumped . And then in the secret life of Walter Mitty , yeah , right , like he kind of was looking for love for her . He just like couldn't grasp it and he was trying to . So I was like , oh my God , he's time casting .
Speaker 3Yeah , when he does these rom-coms . Yeah , I think it's the same . Yeah , the same character .
Speaker 2The same plot . Yeah . To him lot . Yeah to him , and I think it's because of the approach , like I think a ben stiller has gotten better looking with age , definitely like I don't think he was good looking and along came paulie I definitely don't think he's good looking in this movie .
Speaker 3He's like his face has this really weird like structure to almost like an animal , kind of like he doesn't . I don't know . It's weird to describe .
Speaker 2No , it's like very definitive features . Yeah , like very bony , yes , very petite . I feel like he needed more time to grow into his adult body . Yeah , I feel like he was young for a very long time . And a lot , a lot of men . Their young version doesn't look as well as their older version and I think it's because their adult body kicked in .
Speaker 2It took a while it took them a long time yeah , some , some dudes can't pull off the petite bone structure yeah not all of them , because their , their structures are more masculine and I think a lot of people that's not like appealing to the eyes , like if you have masculine structures , you don't want it thin and petite , yeah , you want it bold , you want it definitive you know , you want like strong yeah and I think that he has those features , but because his adult body hadn't fully kicked in , it just made it look petite and like flack face yeah I get what you're saying , but , yeah , he looking good now .
Speaker 2Okay , so there's an animal fight scene here . Yes , so I got a question for you . Okay , did you enjoy this fight scene ? I did not did any of the fight scenes . So there's a fight scene with the dog , with the dog , yeah , and then there's another I wouldn't say a fight scene , but but healy's trying to revive the dog . Did you enjoy either one of those scenes ? No , no , no , I was gonna ask you did you like better this , these ones ?
Speaker 3or the oh no , no , oh no , no competition . It's Anna Faris and the cat . Well , it's funny , because the things I don't like about this one are the things that I like about the scary movie fight .
Speaker 2Then that's what I was going to ask you . Like what is it ? Is it that it's the dudes ? Is it the sound effects ?
Speaker 3Because I was like watching this movie and obviously he's fighting like a puppet dog , like it's not that's my favorite , but it just I don't know it didn't I didn't think it was that funny and the dog catching on fire , I didn't think that was funny , I don't know . But then when I watch it with anna ferris , like obviously she's fighting a puppet and I thought it was hilarious it's funny .
Speaker 2I don't know . It's also funny . I think I just have a . I was gonna say a g spot I have a g spot for anna ferris I think I just have a sweet spot for edible like um actors fighting with with puppet animals , because it's a hundred percent reliance and commitment of the actors and along with the sound effects like you can't overly do it with the sound effects of the meowing , the hissing , yeah the barking , the growling , like then you're gonna over saturate it with of something that we know isn't real .
Speaker 2Yeah , you know it's . I feel like it's a hundred percent dependent on the commitment of the actor , and I think that um healy did a great commitment to that . I thought he was funny as hell , and I think that ted did a good job , and I thought it was funny , too , how you left the dog on there oh yeah have you ever left anything on the roof of your ?
Speaker 3car on the roof , I left a starbucks drink damn . And then I drove away and it fell .
Speaker 2It fell well , luckily it fell backwards , damn , all right yeah , did you wash your car later , rinse it or anything ? Yeah , I was so mad that milk that well , all right , but I can't lie like anna ferris's .
Speaker 3One is hence maybe because the dog didn't move , like and I would interact . Yeah , and scary movie the cat was moving , so it heightened the yeah and then then this one and something about mary the dog . It was stiff , it was just kind of like
Personal Dating Experiences and Lies
Speaker 3there .
Speaker 2Well , yeah , with healy it was dying , so it was stiff . And then with um ted , I think it was just like so hyper , coked out out , drugged out . You know what I mean ? Yeah .
Speaker 3But I get it , I get it . So I just don't understand . I feel like a lot of movies guys will lie to try to get a girl , and it's just like where do you think this is going to go ? I don't . I don't think it was reminding me of that Adam Sandler movie Just Go With it . And I'm that adam sandler movie , just go with it . And I'm just like it's like lie on top of , lie on top of , and it's just like how far do you really think you're gonna go with this ? And then especially the guy , uh tucker , with the fake crutches , I was like you have to be a teenager .
Speaker 3Right , if they really , if he really did get together with mary like you're gonna be on crutches for the rest of your life you're gonna really like what was your plan yeah , I think people like that know deep down that they have zero shot and it's just like , well , I have to do something to keep this person in my life .
Speaker 2Um , some , at least for someone like his character . Someone like healy's character , I think , can commit long term to the scam , because they are like I don't know if you've ever watched what is it oxygen ? The oxygen channel , where they talk about how they were deceived by a con man . Oh yeah , bitch , that shit is real I was like oh my god , I'd be like what's your social security ? Tell me , right now , I know who are you ?
Speaker 2are these really ? This is really your day ? But yeah , it was annoying me too , and it's just like the only honest person about who they were in their motives was wookiee you just want them shoes .
Speaker 3And then I was just like healy matt matt dylan .
Speaker 2He's not even attractive , he was so ugly he's always been ugly I don't know if you've seen him in the 80s and bitches were bitches .
Speaker 3Pussy was throbbing over this dude and i'm'm like what Were they all blind ? I don't understand .
Speaker 2Him versus who else came out in the Outsiders ? It was him . Rob Below , ralph Macchio , tom .
Speaker 3Cruise Patrick Swayze .
Speaker 2Patrick Swayze , and he was in there too . No , yeah , he was in there . I feel like he could be a good looking person , because I was like Is it his eyebrows ?
Speaker 3It was a stupid , the skinny little mustache , that was definitely . And I think that was on purpose , that had to be on purpose . Yeah , that had to , that had to be a joke .
Speaker 2It had to . But going back to Cameron Diaz , yeah , she doesn't look good here . She doesn't . She doesn't look all that good here . I definitely feel like they could have bumped it up , Because around this time , what is this 98 ? The mask couldn't have been that far away . But I know in the mask the motive of her character's look was to make her hot . She was like a club singer , right . Yeah , so I get it for the motive . But I do think that they could have emptied up a bit , Because I think the timeless look of being petite is a timeless look and she has that .
Speaker 3But maybe do something with her hair . Yeah , I was gonna say her hair like , because even though she had like the short haircut , it wasn't styled anyway , or like it was just like it looked like she just got out of the shower and it dried like there was no effort , no , and then it was like I felt like it was like flipping weird ways , like I'm like you could straighten it , like do something , I don't't know , no , I agree with you , but I feel like that was the look that they were going for and if that's the look that they were , that was the character that they were going for .
Speaker 2Right , she's a natural beauty . She doesn't need to do anything . Put on anything she doesn't need to be herself , and if that's the case , I think they could have given texture to her hair , or change the color of her hair or made it wavy yeah because it looks very like thin and flat .
Speaker 3yeah , yeah , I agree with that . What is , um ? What's the craziest lie a guy has ever told you ? I don't know , I have to think about that . Do you have one ? Not that they're crazy , I just think it's like like , why would you lie about it's ? It's so silly , why would you lie ? I used to date some guy and I was really into Sudoku , the game . Oh my God , you look like you would be perfect at that . I was really into it at the time and I was like , oh , do you like it ? Do you play ? And he was like , yeah , and I had a board game of Sudoku . No way I did did . So then I busted it out and it was the guy and me and my sister and I was like , oh , the three of us , let's play . And then he was like caught and he was like I don't know how to play . And I and then like so me and my sister started laughing at him and we were like , why did you every ?
Speaker 2dude's nightmare .
Speaker 3From every dude that I thought , to women laughing at me and it's like well , why did you tell us that you did ? If you don't like , it's just like such a dumb thing to lie about , that is a stupid thing to lie about .
Speaker 2Did he probably not hear you ? Did he know what it was ?
Speaker 3I know he , he knew that he was lying like , because I was just like , oh yeah , you know that game with the numbers and and he was like oh yeah , and I was like , okay , cool , like , let me get my board game out , let's play . You're ready to go ? I was like yeah , I was like oh yeah , and I was like okay , cool , like let me get my board game out .
Speaker 3Let's play . You're ready to go , bitch ? I was like yeah , I was like perfect , I thought I was going to have to teach you Like , let's go , it's hilarious .
Speaker 3Turning down time . Oh my God , so funny . And then I dated this other guy when I was in college and read fast fast food nation . So that's when I got all like , okay , I'm not gonna eat like mcdonald's or fast food and all this stuff , right . So then I started dating this guy and he was just like , oh yeah , that him too , that he doesn't eat that stuff and whatever . And then I was like I don't know if I was in a car , if I was in the bus on my way to school and I saw him like inside a carl's junior like eating hilarious .
Speaker 2I wish you would have taken a picture and texted it to me I was just like .
Speaker 3I was just like . I was like , if you , I just don't understand , like why , why lie about these things ? Well , I fake the funk .
Speaker 2I think they're just all trying to get laid yeah that's what it is the only thing I can think about is the time I caught someone in a lie and I guess it wasn't a caught . I was like loosely dating this guy and he to me . It was a fling To him . I guess he wanted more . He got a taste , he wanted more , I'm just kidding . And over the winter break he was texting me and I was like not for it . I was like I'm not trying to meet your family . And when we came back , I guess like I showed up late or I didn't show up the first school day , and one of the girls in the class texted me . She was like hey , just want to let you know that he's telling everybody the new stuff over the holiday weekend and that we were like , oh , he should have invited us and that we were like , oh , he should have invited us and he was like yeah , I was going to .
Speaker 2I invited blanca , but she was being a bitch , oh and not fucking answering me and I was like well , we're not together , like why are you pressing me , yeah , and heightening the situation by talking shit behind my back with people that we both know ?
Speaker 2yeah to me it's different when you talk shit with people that we both know versus people that you only know yeah , because then you're kind of venting , you're just like expressing yourself , but if it's the other way , then I feel like you're trying to cause uh like a thing . Yeah , so the next time I seen him I was like you know what , dude , whatever , this is like , it's over , like I know I heard what you said about me and why are you lying if we're not together ? Like it doesn't make you .
Speaker 2There's no motive , but this is why I say like I think it's always for a chance to sleep with you and I've heard all guys say well , let most guys say like there's no such thing as a guy friend , like they all want to sleep with you I don't know if you believe in that .
Speaker 3I don't want to believe in that well , I just think it's funny that they say that like I wouldn't sleep with my girlfriends , like what's the difference ? But you tell me and I'm just like , okay , they're like oh well , that guy wants to sleep with you . And I'm like okay , well , that girl probably wants to sleep with me too . Like what's your point ?
Speaker 2you know , I have control of this , like you know yeah confusing this , these guy politics I don't . Okay , I don't understand , but I love it when gay men come out or like trends people come out and they say how shitty it is to date men and how women are not tripping about all these dude politics and how they react . So I'm like I feel validated of this craziness yeah , I was also gonna ask you .
Speaker 3Um , so m Mary obviously has her pick of these five dudes , like if anyone she wanted , they would have went with her . Yeah , absolutely , do you feel like there's someone you could just call up right now and they'd be with you ? Yeah , that guy that guy .
Speaker 2I think everyone has at least one person what about you ?
Speaker 3I don't . Well , it's funny because my husband swears like he's . He's like , oh , he's like that guy still wants you . And I'm just like he clearly doesn't Like he . He always talks about my ex all the time and he's like , oh , give him the chance , he'll come right back . And I'm like I'm like he left me , like what makes you think he would come back ?
Speaker 2You're lucky that your man is in a crazy type , because if I was your man , uh-huh . If I was your husband , I'll be . I'm gonna make a fake profile right now . So good , he doesn't listen to the podcast this is a great idea and hit him up just hit him up hey , it's not working out . I miss you . I bet you if he said I miss you , if you just say that no nothing else I miss you .
Speaker 2It's a wrap , and I think I I get . I get what both of you are saying , but I think , yeah , I think so too . If you were to say that , I think so too , but we'll never know , we'll never know but I think every , every guy that um like locks into a relationship has that fear that an ex will want to come back , that dudes are laughing at them behind their back because another man has seen you naked and the man has made you orgasm like all these thoughts that I don't think about .
Speaker 3I don't know if you think about that . That's not what I know , not that I'm thinking more about my husband . I'm like you've seen that other girl naked , so I need to look better than her . Oh , so you internalize it that's what . Yeah , but I'm not thinking oh , she saw you naked like I don't care . She saw you naked like I'm thinking about . Right , if you think she's hotter than me I think that too .
Speaker 2I think it's a female , a female and male perspective . I think that men think that way and I think I I relate to your thought process .
Speaker 3This is fun any other day oh , let me see , I'm like fuck this movie , let's just uh . Well , have you ever had a stalker ?
Speaker 2me . I think that guy's low-key a stalker , because I haven't well , I haven't changed my number , so I don't know if that counts yeah , I've had the same number since high school .
Speaker 3You know what I mean .
Speaker 2Yeah , I don't know if you still sometimes get random texts like from people dude I , yeah , I got one .
Speaker 3I feel like clearly this was like an old girlfriend I had , because I got a text and it was like oh , hey , this song came on from or something like on my spotify or my cds or whatever , and it was a song that I used to listen to in high school and she's like , oh , I'm assuming it's a girl . And then the text was like oh , it made me think of you , just want to say hi , I hope you're doing well and whatever . And I had no idea who this was and I just like , yeah , I'm doing great , like good song yeah , like thanks , I know who this is .
Speaker 2You better watch out , bitch . The spot of bff is taken . No , take backsies , I will fight you spiritually , physically meet you be there .
Speaker 3You're ridiculous , it's true , you're mine , now , yes , all yours , but damn what a bitch Just said hello , who does that no ?
Speaker 2There's no such thing . You're not texting people from your past just to say hello . There's motives in there , bitch . There's motives . Read between the lines , bri . Read between the lines . I can't . I don't know who it was . Give me the number , I'll find out who it is . Oh , I should have .
Speaker 3Good , where did me ?
Speaker 2the number , I'll find out who it is . Oh , I should have good . For what did I gone now , I don't know . But I think , um , you know , there's some people that can talk to their exes and be fine with that and like not have feel anything . I can't do that I feel like once I've seen you , once I've kissed you it's so we can't kiss .
Speaker 3Yeah , so we can't kiss , because it's like why ?
Speaker 2not , I can't . There's no going back . Let's go forward , that's why I'm like no , I can't , I just know too much , I've tasted too much . I've tasted too much . All the senses have awakened . My last two cents is the creative ending . I think it stayed true to how everybody wants Mary Right , because the title there's something about .
Speaker 3Mary , something about her .
Speaker 2The old man slept with Magda just to get through Mary . Yeah , which old men all the time thinking they had their shot . No , that was the most believable one .
Speaker 3I was going to say this old dude , but I thought that rang true .
Speaker 2He's trying to shoot ben stiller , but instead shot one of the musicians yeah , and then the end credits . A little end credit , yeah , I feel like it's a good way . If you pay attention , you can see that the end credits are almost every scene or frequent scenes of the film . So it makes me feel like maybe they um did it as a way , as a pick-me-up , because you know when they film , they film at any time of the day yeah you know .
Speaker 2So it's like we really don't know how long these people have been shooting and it's a really good pick-me-up , like , okay , let's wrap it up , or let's bring the energy , let's record the song and bring everybody up , and I think it worked . What'd you think about the zipper ? Oh , the scene yeah , I wish I didn't see it because I know I now see it and I feel like they're all around the but is it the frank or the beans ?
Speaker 2how'd you get the beans in front of the frank ? I don't know , I wasn't thinking about , which I think is a fair answer .
Speaker 3Yeah , it all happened so fast , you know , I thought it was just funny that everyone kept where people kept coming in the bathroom when the firefighters through the window enough , we get it .
Speaker 2Everybody and their mama knew and uh , yeah , and even when woogie is just like I was two I was two towns over like which I thought was funny . Yeah , about it , because that's pretty embarrassing . I mean , I don't fucking know , like , how do you ? She's a class act , though she didn't tell anybody else about it , but did you ? Did you like that they show ?
Speaker 3that it uh caught me off guard . I didn't think they were gonna show it . It startled me .
Speaker 2I was like whoa yeah , I feel like it's like in forgetting sarah marshall when he's like about to show his dick oh yeah , I had a surprise for you . You hear it flapping . Whatever the fuck um , but props to the . What is it ? The makeup ? Special effects , yeah that that nailed it . I was in pain , I was just like oh my god , I think the secret was to not make it bloody .
Speaker 2Oh , yeah , because I'm like this is tolerable . I'm uncomfortable but it's tolerable , and I'm like what would have made it intolerable ? And I think it'd be bloody or like more swollen yeah you know what I mean , which I think it should have been more swollen .
Speaker 3Yeah , yeah , it's still pink yeah , that's what I'm saying .
Speaker 2Circulation , bro , like come on . No blood , no purple it's like .
Speaker 3And then he was like I could still go to prom . I'll just put my shirt over it .
Speaker 2It's fine , yeah right , oh my gosh , yeah right , ain't nothing gonna be stuck on me like that the bechdel test what does this get on the bechdel test ?
Speaker 3it fails , they're always she's talking about men . When she's out with her friends , they're talking about , you know , the guy she's dating . When she's talking to her neighbor , magda , they're talking about the guys . So predictable .
Speaker 2Yeah , all right , everyone . Now it's time for our newest segment , popcorn or colonel . Uh , you know how sometimes we think we're just not the audience for this . Well , we turned it into a metric where we judge the accessibility of the movie yeah , so we .
Speaker 3so we're going to look at the characters in the plot to see how relatable they are to a general audience or to a specific audience . So if we think the movie can relate to a lot of people , it's a popcorn so you could pass it around and share it with the whole family . But if it's for a more specific audience , then it's a kernel . Some people like it , some people spit it back .
Speaker 2Okay , can we agree that the main actors are characters are mary and and ted . Is it mary and ted ?
Speaker 3mary , ted healy you want to do the three of them I think I can do mary and ted mary and ted , but I feel like healy has a lot he's yeah , he's in it a lot involved .
Speaker 2Do you want to do three ? Yeah , we could do three . All right , so the main characters are going to be Mary , healy and Tad . Are the main characters relatable ? I thought so . They're all looking for love . You're either trying to stay away from the creeps , you are the creep Sure , are they attractive ?
Speaker 3No , not one person here , no . Sorry are they attractive ? No , not one person . No , sorry , not one person here . Are they funny ? I didn't think they were funny . I like woogie . Woogie was funny , I'm not , not these three yeah , woogie and magda yeah , oh , people are funny , are they charming ?
Speaker 2I feel like they were really pushing for mary to be , but I wasn't feeling it .
Speaker 3I don't know if it's I'm a dude or what . Yeah , I wasn't into her .
Speaker 2Okay . Do they invoke empathy or sympathy ?
Speaker 3I think Ted at some times .
Speaker 2Well , I'll go with yeah , I feel like , especially because he did the right thing . Yeah , what would be the most of the right thing at the end ?
Speaker 3Regarding the movie or the plot , are there stakes ? I mean I think the secrets being found out , those are the stakes , but nothing .
Speaker 2I mean nothing serious , yeah I put no because I was like you know , whatever it is , they can move on from yeah so I put no I don't know okay , are the characters in jeopardy ?
Speaker 3I thought mary yeah , I don't like .
Speaker 2Mary . Yeah , so Mary became in jeopardy . Yeah , Is the conflict interesting ? I thought so because there were multiple guys . Yeah . Okay so it's just like which one would she pick ? Because that was a conflict right which ?
Speaker 3one was she going to pick ?
Speaker 2Is she even going to date one ? And I thought that's relatable . I don't know if you're like , if you're loosely I hate to use the word loosely in this context , but it's like if you're casually there , you go casually dating . I feel like people are talking to like two or more guys .
Speaker 3Yeah , I think it's relevant .
Speaker 2Is it relevant ? And then do you think it's interesting ? Yeah , I think for single people it's more interesting . The conflict as far as that , because I know someone that's single and that's all they interesting . The conflict as far as that , because I know someone that's single and that's all they talk about . Dating , yeah , and I'm like you know , who am I to hate ? Because I'm in a relationship and I'm sure to her I talk about shit , about my relationship all the time , or good and bad , you know yeah it's looking like a popcorn .
Speaker 2I say it's a colonel . You think it's a colonel ?
Speaker 3because the first of the characters , they were all no and there's no stakes so are they relatable ?
Speaker 2I have I put yes , we're putting yes for relatable no looking for love .
Speaker 3Yeah , okay , the attractive , no , funny , no , charming , no are there stakes .
Speaker 2No , you know what . You're right . I marked it wrong . You're right , it's a kernel and then so for your rating . So , out of 85 reviews , this is a certified fresh in 84% . That's surprising . That's out of 85 out of over 250,000 reviews . This has an audience score of 61% . What do you rate this ?
Speaker 3film . Yeah , I was going to give it a 6 . 6 ? I get that . Is it the writing ? It's the ? Yeah , the writing . They're trying too hard to make Mary cool , this weird stalker . As romantic I'm not , I don't know .
Speaker 2You're not into it . I'm not into it . I get it . It could be scary . I'm not going to lie If you
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Speaker 2really think about it .
Speaker 3Yeah .
Speaker 2Really take yourself there . I give it an 8 out of 10 . Only because it's cheesy . Mm-hmm .
Speaker 2Like it's cheesy that he came clean , it's cheesy that she still picked him . It's cheesy that she's a beauty that just rolls out of bed . But like , like we're not , we're just rolling with it . Um , I think it gets so much because I laugh all the time with the animal scenes . I laugh with woogie . As much as I don't like to see the frank and the beans , I am entertained I mean it had funny moments , but I think there was not enough and I think the the characters are ugly Like .
Speaker 3I'm sorry , it matters I'm sorry , I'm sorry . Pick hotter guys and .
Speaker 2I think , yeah , we'll get , we'll get . And you know what ? I didn't mention this before . As far as this is another film that casts people that are on the spectrum , Rather than just having actors like , like sub . So I give it points for that too , because I feel like sometimes they want to be in movies . Give them a job , yeah .
Speaker 3Next up for review along came polly actuary ruben pfeffer , is so aware of the risks inherent in all situations that he is unable to risk anything . His bride , l Lisa , seems perfect but cheats on him during their honeymoon . Back home in New York City , his best friend , former child star Sandy , urges him to attend a party . There he meets an ex-classmate , polly Prince , whose spirited ways sparks his admiration but confounds his neuroses . This movie is rated PG-13 .
Speaker 2Its genre is romantic comedy . It's directed and written by John Hamburg , which I think we've all seen his work . He wrote Meet the Parents . He wrote Zoolander . He wrote Meet the Fockers . Wrote , directed and produced I Love you . Man Wrote and produced Little Fockers . I haven't seen and produced I Love you . Man Wrote and produced Little Fockers .
Speaker 3I haven't seen that one . Have you seen it ?
Speaker 2I have . I just don't you know what . I've watched all of them , maybe five months ago . They're all funny . Zoolander 2 . It said that that one got fought . It wasn't as funny , right ? Why him ? I don't know if you've seen that one .
Speaker 3Yeah , I saw it . You like it .
Speaker 2I guess not . I've only seen it once . He wrote and directed that one . He wrote Night School .
Speaker 3I didn't watch that one . I had high hopes for that one With Kevin Hart and Tiffany Haddish .
Speaker 2I had high hopes , but I heard it flopped . And then , me Time , I think that one's with Kevin Hart right now Wrote , directed and produced that one Came out last year . This movie was released in January 2004 . Box office gross in the USA is $87.9 million . We have this movie starring Ben Stiller as Ruben , we have Jennifer Aniston as Miss Polly , philip Seymour Hoffman as Sandy , debra Messing as Lisa , hank Azaria as Klauth and Brian Brown as Leland Van Lood . So have you ever made a pros and cons list for yourself or someone else in regards ?
Speaker 3to dating . No , I probably should have . It's effective .
Speaker 2I can say I've made a few .
Speaker 3Have you helped people or you made them for yourself ?
Speaker 2I made one for me and I was like these , looking about the same . So maybe I shouldn't do this for me , but I've had friends ask when they're dating people and they want to see which one they could date . In my own personal experience , if you're dating two people you really don't like , the first person is what I realized , because you started dating after that .
Speaker 2Yeah after that , after I had a moment of realization where I was like you know what , I obviously don't like you that much if I'm dating somebody else . That was enough for me . But some people like the list and I don't think the list works in regards to in your relationship , maybe if you're casually dating , but it's not my go-to . When people want advice or complain . I'm just like you know what you should do Make a list . No , who has ever said that ? I think that's very early 2000s . Yeah , what do you think ?
Speaker 3Yeah , I've never done it . This thought has never crossed my mind . I don't know people who've made a list . Yeah , no , I get it . Oh , do you want to know something funny ? What ? So ? The guy that left me at the altar ? He made a pros and cons list about marrying me . Did you find that ? Did he tell you that ?
Speaker 2yeah , he told me I like have so much to say about all , and I think people have heard everything I've had to say . I will talk shit about this to the end of time . I wish I could move on from it as gracefully as you can . It just is beyond me that people propose without thinking about it , like it's just and I'm sure he , this person's not the only one . There's people out there that get knocked up and they're just like let's just , let's just figure it out . Um , I've heard that more with children I've never heard of . Let me propose to you and then let's see how that see how it goes to me .
Speaker 2I mean and this is whatever , let's move on where this becomes a talking shit segment feel free , feel free . That's why we're here well , just like if you're gonna prepare to make a lifelong commitment , you should have done that and then follow through with that . Obviously , like I said , it doesn't work if you're in a relationship because it's not effective , obviously . But that man , that dude , did you a favor .
Speaker 3We probably would not be hanging out this much if you were still dating that man ? Yeah , because he didn't like you apparently not .
Speaker 2Yeah , a lot of people don't like me and I . I deal with that . I'm okay with that . Chances are I don't like you either . It happens , yeah , I don't . It usually works out like that what I call divine intervention .
Speaker 2Uh , it's good , it's good stuff . Well , look at this , that logic that he used . I mean , come on , do you expect ? I don't know what he expected , but that's the type of shit I'm talking about , anyways . Anyways , when you go on a first date yes , when we did go on first dates did you do anything to prepare for the date ? Did you ? I did Okay . Did you do anything to prepare for the date ? Did you ? I did ? Um , okay , I did too .
Speaker 2So this is what I would do . I would groom myself . So shaving is what I'm referring to , but I would shave and bathe , but I wouldn't overly do it like . I know a dude that when he would go on dates , he would stay in the shower for like an hour grooming , bathing , and I'm like , I don't even want to know why that long like , and I think some I can imagine that men are into ass play , so that's what also they're cleaning for a whole hour in there maybe . But I wouldn't do it to . I wouldn't make sure I was a hundred percent hairless , I wouldn't make sure I was a hundred percent groomed , I wouldn't even make sure that like , like there's some people that , like , they take a shower , they poop and now they have to take a shower all over again because they're going on a date .
Speaker 3I wasn't doing that .
Speaker 2That's because they don't know how to wipe their ass . That's what I'm assuming , because I'm like that's weird , yeah , so yeah , I would groom myself , but I wouldn't make sure I was this perfect like thing , because men are all gross to me . I'm not gonna go 100 when you probably don't even wash your hands , and that's at the bare minimum . The bare minimum is to wash your hands . The bare minimum should be that you're clean , and it's not . That's just , that's just the standard that men have put themselves on . That's just my opinion what about you ?
Speaker 3I would , um , so I would brush my teeth , like right before the date that makes sense , yeah , and then I would take a travel toothbrush and toothpaste with me in my purse and then so if we would go out to dinner or whatever , if we go to the movie and eat popcorn , so then afterwards I'd go to the bathroom and I'd brush my teeth again , because I was just so paranoid about I don't know why having bad breath . I was like , in case , we're going to make out later .
Speaker 2And a mint wouldn't suffice . Yeah , no , I , in my opinion it wouldn't . And when you would kiss these guys , would they up to your standard , the standard that you put yourself ?
Speaker 3on um , do they ?
Speaker 2taste good . Did they taste bad ?
Speaker 3I mean some , some yes , some no , god damn it .
Speaker 2See what I mean . Probably not even rinsing their mouth probably yeah , or drinking .
Speaker 3I mean just drink water like something yeah , anything .
Speaker 2Has a guy ever learned anything for you ?
Speaker 3yes , well , they learn very sweet . So my husband and I , he used to go to night school , so we would have like a two-hour window after work that we could like hang out and we so we would go to like starbucks and just hang out until he had class and , um , he learned how to play chess , oh wow yeah , so we would go to starbucks and play chess together before before he went to school . Doesn't chess take like forever ? Yeah , we wouldn't finish the games .
Speaker 2I was about to say it's a long ass date right there and he talks a lot and I just kind of be sitting there like move your piece .
Speaker 3Yeah , so he didn't like . The game is what I'm figuring I'm like stop talking and play the game .
Speaker 2I'm very competitive though yeah , I guess either I'm not . I'm not confident . I feel so small when it comes to competition . Did anybody learn something for you ? I asked I . I was thinking about it and I don't remember anything . So I asked my boyfriend and he said massaging , because I enjoy physical touch , so I'm always massaging him . I massaged him when we went to Glen Ivy . Or your feet , I put mud on your feet , I remember , because you were like let me touch your feet .
Speaker 3I'm like no , but you're touching mine . Yeah , that's exactly what you said .
Speaker 2That's exactly what you said and I was like they're sick . The look on your face was like what , okay ? Once I said that , you were like okay , never mind , keep your feet to yourself , exactly , um , but that's what he said . Like he looks into like how to massage , how to better massage , and he only massages me .
Speaker 2So I appreciate that that's nice , yeah , yeah and I I like massage , like for people that I feel so bad for people that , um , they're not into touch or or they're closed off to it , because I feel , like anyone , everyone can benefit from a massage . Yeah , um , and I enjoy it . So , um , have you , what new things have you tried for a date ? Um , and I'm considering , like , anything that you do with your husband , because you know people in relationships still go on dates uh well , I just like trying new things .
Speaker 3So anytime someone's like ,
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Speaker 3oh , let's go do this , and I'm always like up for something new . But , um , with my husband we went shooting and he like he really took a lot of time , though , to like he told me like the whole history of guns and how like they're constructed and this what ? Very thorough , like the name , this is a safety , this is a trigger , this is a whatever , this is the barrel , like he really explained a lot of it to me and he was really teaching me like a new skill . Oh yeah , so that was a nice , that's sweet so you tried uh using the gun yeah , so we went and then they keep brought like two different types and stuff .
Speaker 3So it was cool , that's good I , I've tried .
Speaker 2These are the more like movie dates , like watching anime yeah and we just had a date night too , where I opened and every time I'm just like but I do like . I like avatar , the next airbender and cora . I like those and I think it's because they're like 90s animation . I don't like a lot of that thin . That's all I can think of right now thin um type of animation and disc golfing .
Speaker 2Oh you try . Is it fun ? I'm not good at it , so that's why I don't like it . Um , so I'm gonna go with no , and I don't take constructive criticism easily sometimes . Um , so I'm not gonna , and I think you would like it . Actually , I think you would be good at it and enjoy it okay , see , this is the trick .
Speaker 3If you're not good at it , you say , fuck it and start being bad at it , and just okay . If this , okay , this is the plan , you go play disc golf and you're not good at it , right , just start throwing them at anthony that makes sense .
Speaker 2Oh , you know what I was doing . I was practicing and every time I practice , you do this , you do that , you do this and as a person that's not very athletic , uh-huh , like even holding the disc , I'm like this feels uncomfortable , like I , I can't feel myself using muscles and I don't , I don't know what to do with my hand , like you know , and it's like you're telling me to do something and it's like I'm not good at other hand , stuff so it made sense to me , so it made sense to me why I suck at this game .
Speaker 2Yeah , um , but I was like I just I can't . I can't take the criticism every time I do it . Every time I do it . It's just not enough . That's why you just gotta start throwing them at him .
Speaker 3I'm concerned he'll bite it or catch it like a dog , and I would be impressed rather than upset or you know I'll be , I will be entertained but also you went to uh , to six flags and rode rollercoasters for me . I do , I love you , thank you .
Speaker 2I was like I love this person so I'm doing that , but yeah , that's . That's another thing , because I was like man I haven't I don't remember the last time and I had fun actually , good , it was the . The thing that I wasn't looking forward to was the heat , but one thing that I appreciate learning about you is , um , uh , sticking it out through uncomfortableness , because I am a person that cannot stand being uncomfortable like I will carry pills with me for any type of discomfort that I may experience . Salon paws got them in the bag mints got them in the bag like I .
Speaker 2Just I hate being uncomfortable , but it's a life lesson that I'm learning and I appreciate you , thank you . So back to the movie . So we have Polly , who's like this outgoing rule break no rules .
Speaker 3She's on the non-plan . Yeah , exactly how she says .
Speaker 2I'm on the non-plan and she got offended that she is on a plan . Yeah , and that's what really disturbed me . And you have Ruben that is uptight , that's very organized , very factual in his knowledge and approach . Um , do you think you're a poly or a ruben ?
Speaker 3oh , I'm totally a poly , I yeah and I'm totally a ruben , I'm just like I hate it .
Speaker 2And when he was built , saying those stats , I was like you're grossing me out like stuff peanuts yeah , but you know what I feel like I used to be , um , I used to be a poly and then I've been through some things and I was just like I can't do this anymore . You know , being a poly , I got mono , I got scabies twice as a child that was not my fault as an adult , I assume 100% eating stuff out and about got gastritis . I am like , okay , I'm done , like I obviously can't handle this . This life is no longer for me and it scared me straight to being a ruben , because I'm like , what am I doing ? That's now . It like put me into a corner of fear and I hate it . Um , but I feel like I'm learning to live a little bit more and I think , like the the pandemic coming to an end is helping me be less of a Ruben .
Speaker 3Yeah , so I'm hoping it's over . I totally just like go with the flow and then it's kind of it's fun , like it's a fun way to live your life . But when I'm on a job interview and they're like where do you see yourself in five years ?
Speaker 2And I'm just like uh , I don't know I lie every time now , because they lie all the time . Yeah , so I'm like yeah , I want to further my career in the healthcare industry . No , I don't . I couldn't care less , couldn't care less . Another star actor here is Philip Seymour Hoffman . Rest in peace . I was going to say he was very like beloved .
Speaker 3Yeah . I don't know him from anything else you , you don't know me . Yeah , he's in a lot of movies boogie nights oh man , I haven't seen that movie in forever .
Speaker 2Yeah , with um marky mark marky mark .
Speaker 3Uh , he was in doubt . Did you see him in ?
Speaker 2doubt . Yeah , he was the , the priest . I was very much entertained by doubt and I hate that they left it to interpretation . I know great casting , great casting off the bat . Everybody was great casting um .
Speaker 3He was in um the prequel to hannibal red dragon oh yeah , I haven't seen that one he plays like the scumbag news reporter he would be he was in punch drunk . Love with adam sandler .
Speaker 2Oh , I haven't again I think , I think , yeah , I just haven't seen them .
Speaker 3He was also a dirtbag in that movie he plays .
Speaker 2He plays it so well . I'm trying to find other movies . He's like a very light blonde , like swedish blonde kapote , kapote I haven't seen that one . Oh the mocking mocking jay .
Speaker 3Oh yeah , yeah , he died before he could finish filming . Damn , that sucks .
Speaker 2Scent of a Woman . No , I haven't seen it , me neither . A Most Wanted man , I don't know . Moneyball , did you see that ?
Speaker 3one . Oh yeah , that was a good one .
Speaker 2Oh , you've seen Almost Famous . Yeah , charlie Wilson's War , hatch Adams no , yeah , the hatch adams . No , yeah , the big lebowski . I don't remember him in them . I didn't really care for that movie , though . But you know what ? I just haven't seen a lot of these films that he comes out in . I feel like I don't even . They're not my go-to to watch . It's like action , sci-fi dramas and dramas , dramas , yeah , um , did you enjoy him in this film ? I did . I thought he was hilarious . I was so annoyed by this man and my boyfriend was like that's the point . I was like this dude is every annoying dude ever .
Speaker 2He's every annoying , loud , disgusting , inconsiderate man this was the first time I heard the word sharted yes , so this movie is iconic for for inventing the word sharted , and I just it all came back to me all the sharted jokes , all the time of the sharted it's so good .
Speaker 3I think it's funny when he's playing basketball and he sucks at it . Oh my god , what does he keep ?
Speaker 2saying I kept thinking yeah I was like what the fuck is this food talking about ?
Speaker 3and then when , uh , ben stiller's like can we switch ? And he's like no man , I finally figured out how to block this guy and then he goes like right past him I hated him .
Speaker 2Oh my god , it's so funny . Uh , I've known people like this and , yeah , everyone finds them funny and I'm just like shut the fuck up .
Speaker 3I mean in real life . Yeah , he would be super annoying , but it's funny , it's funny I was annoyed by him .
Speaker 2Do I think they should have done anything different or changed him ? No , I think he's very good in the movie . I think the purpose was to annoy you and it worked . You're either going to be annoyed or entertained . And we're both sitting here .
Speaker 3I was entertained you were or weren't ? I was and he just kept giving bad advice the whole time .
Speaker 2I was yelling at the screen like how are you qualified , you know , especially when he's at the rehearsal I think it's because , I've been in theater too .
Speaker 3I'm just like this motherfuckers over here just I'm playing two roles now , just deal with it no care for the poc 2023 .
Speaker 2Everybody's fighting for this asian man right now .
Speaker 3Have you ever done .
Speaker 2Jesus christ superstar I probably should watch it . I've heard it , I just haven't seen it . It's a musical . Yeah , it's a musical .
Speaker 3I'm sure you've seen it , huh I've seen it a long time ago . I don't know you should probably watch it .
Speaker 2We should probably watch it . What about what ? What did you feel about polly's character ?
Speaker 3polly , oh you annoyed , entertained I wish they would have developed her more . I think so too , because when the scene where they're on the boat and she kind of like because when , uh , ruben's like what you used to be like a model student , like what happened ? Oh yeah , the un or whatever , yeah , and then she was like , well , my father like had a whole nother family , and when he's like kids and a wife , kids and a wife and stuff , yeah , and then ever since then she's just been like a free spirit .
Speaker 2I wish I was knocked on my rock bottom Like that .
Speaker 3That's what I need , so come back . Come back to me , blanca .
Speaker 2I found her also annoying , but probably because I'm a Reuben . But what annoyed me . I know this was supposed to be comedic , and but what annoyed me . I know this was supposed to be comedic and I'm so mad that ruben didn't say anything . She calls him to tell him that she's available only to say that she's not available and I was like no one really does that . I know people like it stood up . We have . We had a mutual friend that does that all it's flake , all the time and I feel like they would have done that .
Speaker 2It would have been more , more believable more believable to her character like just free spirited like oh hey , I'm sorry I forgot to call you or I didn't mean to stand you up , it's just , my friend was having like salsa dancing yeah that day and I , um , he reminded me , so I went straight to that and I and I forgot about you .
Speaker 2Like that would have been a little bit more , believe I think they could have developed her personality a little bit more realistic way , because I feel like that was more realistic to portray that she's just an outgoing free bird rather than the than that . That , yeah , felt deliberate . I want to go yeah , I wasn't ruben , but I felt like ruben when he , when she did that , because even he was like what the fuck ? Yeah , he's like . But you just said , but I felt like ruben when he , when she did that , because even he was like what the ?
Speaker 3fuck , yeah , he's like . But you just said , but I think also too , they kind of relied on people liking jennifer aniston she got the boobs , yeah , but I mean I feel like they they don't develop her character , because because you kind of just project onto jennifer aniston of like friends or wherever else you've seen her , so you kind of like fill in the blanks yeah she was a it girl . Yeah , I get that , but um , I think she was very graceful , though , when all the all the things were going wrong .
Speaker 2When he clogs her toilet I would be so upset if someone did the the hand towel . That's the worst part . Yeah , what did she give him in the end ? Was it the plunger or whatever it was ?
Speaker 3he used a loofah instead of a plunge , okay , but see , okay , I think people should have plungers in their bathrooms . There's people that don't . Well , because she didn't have one , right , he clogged the toilet , he didn't know what to do , so that's , he used the loofah instead , and I'm like this is why everyone should have a plunger . Yeah , see .
Speaker 2See what I'm talking about Irresponsible . I don't think it's wrong to have one . Is it planning out too much for the worst , if you ? Get a plunger .
Speaker 2Come on girl , come on , get it together . You ain't never clogged the toilet before bitch Shut up With all the ethnic food she's eating . I'm like there's no way , no way , oh my god . I was um pleasantly surprised by the come around at the end , because sandy realizes he's probably never gonna be famous . The dad gives like a two , two cents word of a fucking advice and it made sandy realize that he's probably never gonna be famous again . And then ruben realizes that he doesn't want to be with lisa . Yeah , so I thought it was a good come around , because the whole time I was like where's this going ? I hadn't seen this movie in forever . And , yeah , sure enough , I thought he was gonna end up with lisa because it was a safer bet and he did miss her and it didn't look like it was working out with paulie .
Speaker 2I felt like he was just lonely yeah , I don't know , is that the vibe that you got ? He was just lonely .
Speaker 3He didn't really like her well , I felt like he didn't really like her because I felt like he had this idea of her in his head and then she , when they were like what , 12 or whatever , so that she grew up to be very different .
Speaker 2But he still was like oh well , I know that the person I knew was like still in there , like and this is what I mean about him being typecasted , because that's kind of like a similar storyline to there's something about mary . Yeah , like they knew each other in high school uh and now he's want .
Speaker 2Now he just remembers her in high school which I'm not the same person as high school like why would a grown-ass person just project all of this ? But it's like you said , right , he's just putting all these ideas of who she thinks she is and here he is again doing it and I'm glad that they had a final , like um climax of conflict , of addressing it yeah , and I liked at the end when she was like I'm not gonna marry you and he was like I don't want you to marry me , I just what he's like .
Speaker 3Oh , I just want to go have dinner or something can I pick the place ?
Speaker 2yeah you spoil me . You always let me pick the place for the most , whatever you want you know I'm a picky eater . That's fine . I feel like the slapstick comedy here is better than the lines . I don't know if you felt that way . Yeah , I liked it . The sweating , his constant sweating . I've never eaten at a tight place like that , have you ?
Speaker 3no ethnic place where you sit on your foot on the floor . No , I've never eaten like that , and they were like eating with their hands . I don't know what kind of food that was me neither , but I don't know yeah , those girls are putting it back yeah yeah , I was like there's just some things you don't do a little too far .
Speaker 2I'm surprised you shower at this point .
Speaker 3Also the slap when he get at the salsa practice , oh yeah well , I thought , when he spanks her , that too , and then he's talking to his friend about it , and she was like , oh , she got a little offended just spank her a little , let her know I'm your dad , like which .
Speaker 2I feel like how was that ? Are they at the same time ? Um ? So I thought that was better than any lines or any like development , like character development or lack of devil development that they had .
Speaker 3Do you think the movie is quotable ? I ?
Speaker 2you know I I can't lie that it is . The whole shardy thing was a thing for all of middle school . The hippo , the hipp , the hippo yeah , that's me happy as a hippo . I think that one too .
Speaker 3I don't think it's meant to be , but I always I quote this I'm gay what .
Speaker 2I'm homosexual , my boyfriend's in the band . But yeah , I say that it is simply because of the whole sharded thing . Yeah , there's more . Tell me what are the ones ? That's the only one I remember uh scuba lubin .
Speaker 3Are you up for scuba ?
Speaker 2what else you got under there ? In your list 50 , is that where they play basketball ?
Speaker 3no , it's when they're having sex .
Speaker 2And he's like oh yeah , he's holding it in . He's trying to hold it in . I need to use that . That's pretty funny . Next time , Next time , yep .
Speaker 3I guess that's it , Sharded though Sharded takes the cake from me . What I just farted and a little bit of shit came out .
Speaker 2I feel like if they remake this movie it's still gonna be . It'll be good like up there . Yeah , um , I didn't think the situational comedy wasn't as funny , like the poop and the toilet clog like during it . Oh , you know what it kind of was with the ferret there and the water splashing um . I don't know . I think the sharded part , because I hate phyllis seymour but he was so serious but he was so serious like I can't , and then the way he like waddles away I just sharted my pet , alec baldwin , in the bathroom .
Speaker 2Oh my god , he was so funny .
Speaker 3Oh , that's another one , alec baldwin . She's a dime store hooker and she always will be I'm just like what the hell ?
Speaker 1what the hell that's your hooker , there you go . That was the other one that I was trying to remember . I was like there's another .
Speaker 2There was only two on there that , I , that and that those are the two . I remember calling people dime store hookers , hookers , and you know what . It's legendary to call people bitches and hoes , because I still do that to this day and I didn't . I thought everyone kind of did that until our other friend was like oh , is that why you're always calling people hoes and bitches and sluts ? Like I just .
Speaker 2It's always like a different variation of a whore , it's a whore , bitch slut , um . And then I think when they said dime store hooker , I was like this is where it started , yeah because I don't think I was calling anybody a whore until that came out , and now it's just , it's stuck with me everyone's bitches and whores and hoes and sluts .
Speaker 2I call people bitches all the time . There you go , and I love it because now I'm not alone calling everyone bitches . I'm like this bitch . And then what did I put ? Suck suffocating at dinner . Suck you eating at dinner suck you leading sweating , oh , sweating . I was having a hard time with my writing sweating at dinner .
Speaker 3Uh , not like that .
Speaker 2He was like drenched in sweat I felt like there was a faucet on him and they just weren't showing it like in the in the camera camera range .
Speaker 3I think I think jennifer , I think her acting is really good in this movie . When he was like I'm gonna go to the bathroom , she's like , yeah , please yeah , seriously , and she handled that so well .
Speaker 2Like if someone was turning on the shower in my bathroom . I've been like what's ?
Speaker 3going on in there . But okay again , like these guys , if you know you need to shit your pants , why would you go up to her apartment ?
Speaker 2what's his name ? Even sandy was like why would you ? You could have said anything , yeah , anything , and again the lies to get laid the lies to get laid .
Speaker 3But okay , even if he did successfully take a dump in her bathroom like it's gonna smell , and then you're just gonna be like , okay , I'm ready , like that's gross , I don't know what that he didn't think that through .
Speaker 2Yeah at all , which I mean . I've done the opposite like I . I've gone over to a date's house that I didn't know , slept with them , slept over , crapped and then left the next morning and I got my period that same day .
Speaker 2I was like there's a lot happening on this date . Then when I got it I was like they were like we're going to make pancakes , you want some ? I was like , no , I'm good I got to go home and I'm just happy . It was like a dude's house . So I'm like I'm happy there was at least toilet paper , because I don't know if you've ever been to like a dude's house . There's no paper . It's like very unhome , like Very unhomey , and I was like I just hope I got toilet paper and I got lucky and I have never seen that person .
Speaker 2Ever again . I hope never to see that person . I hope if that person sees me , they don't recognize me . It's like oh , took a shit in my house , yup , yup . No shame , it is what it is . This is what I said . I just I don't go 100% for the dudes . Why they don't go 100% for the dudes ? Why they don't go . They don't do it for us , fuck you . Oh , my God , it's my personal vendetta . Y'all need to start doing the same , don't ?
Speaker 3give 100% . Oh , it's ultimate revenge . It's just me , my gift to you .
Speaker 2This is what it is .
Speaker 3But I agree with you , it's just like . So good , I don't know . I think he was hoping to get laid and that it would go away . I don't fucking know . I don't know . Hilarious , oh so good , learning a lot about you all right .
Speaker 2What does this get on the back ?
Speaker 3doll , I think we already know y'all , it fails and it's so dumb because she has , like a friend , in the beginning , her co-worker I love that action .
Speaker 3I forget her name every time , but then like she just disappears , like halfway through the movie . She never comes back . So I liked her , I thought she
Final Review and Ratings
Speaker 3was funny , I think so too . Like she like disappeared slowly , I feel like they were working together . And then there was . I liked her , I thought she was funny , I think so too . She like disappeared slowly , I feel like they were working together . And then there was a scene where Polly's like on the phone talking to her and then she's just gone .
Speaker 2Yeah , they faded her out of the whole thing why ? Where did she go ? I think it would have been funnier if they would have kept her on , because now you have Ruben and his friend Sandy , and now you have Ruben and his friend Sandy , and now you have Polly and her friend , yeah . So yeah , it fails . It fails . Alright , everyone . Now it's time for our newest segment , popcorn or Colonel , alright ? So I'm sure we're agreeing that the main characters are Polly and Ruben . Yes , are the main characters relatable ?
Speaker 3At times . Yeah , I'll say yes , I think so too .
Speaker 2Are they attractive ? One of them is , I think , jen is . Yeah , are they charming ? Yes , I think so too , jen's charming .
Speaker 3I was actually charmed by both of them . I think Ruben he was really sweet , yeah , when they're walking and they're going to walk on a storm pipe or something and he pulls her and he was like , oh , be careful . I thought it was a nice , genuinely sweet moment .
Speaker 2Yeah , he's a gentleman , are they funny ? I think they're funny .
Speaker 3I thought so yeah .
Speaker 2I wrote no , but you're right , they are . I think they are . Do they invoke sympathy or empathy ? Yes , I think so too , because I feel bad for Ben .
Speaker 3Ruben , I mean yeah .
Speaker 2I was like goddammit , regarding the movie or the plot , are there stakes ? I put yes because of IBS , ibs . From his experience , my experience , I'm just kidding , it wasn't like that . Yeah , I didn't clog anything , I just want to clear um the stakes .
Speaker 3Uh , I would say I don't think so , not really are they in jeopardy ?
Speaker 2I didn't know , not really . Is the conflict interesting ? I thought so because I couldn't . I couldn't remember if they do or don't get married , but they definitely stay together and figure it out . Yeah , is the topic relevant ?
Speaker 3yeah , relationships . I feel like that's always an easy topic to go to . I think so too , but one thing I thought was dumb at the end of the movie they go to the same like vacation place that he went on his honeymoon like I think they're just trying to go what's it called full circle ?
Speaker 2yeah , that , um , they go to the same vacation place that he went on his honeymoon . I think they were just trying to go . What's it called Full circle ? Yeah , what is it Cloud ? Cloud ?
Speaker 3Yeah , he can't , because if I'm dating a guy , I'm not going to go with you where you went on your honeymoon with your ex-wife . That's weird .
Speaker 2That is weird . They went to exactly the same place . Yeah yeah , just for full circle , the comedy . It's looking like a popcorn . Oh yeah , I think it's a popcorn . All right , so let's see out of 163 reviews , the tomato meter rates this at a 27 audience score of over 250 000 ratings . It's 47 know I was like what do you rate this ?
Speaker 3film . I would give it 8 out of 10 . Oh , you really enjoyed this movie . I really liked . I think it's super funny . I think it's really hilarious again with the stalker thing . He looks up uh , he looks her up to get her let it go man , oh geez . But I think this , I think this movie cracks me up .
Speaker 2I like it , I gave it a five out of ten because it wasn't like drop dead hilarious for me , but I can't deny that they have iconic lines . Unfortunately that it is well casted . It's just like I wasn't laughing all the way through it . But there is situational comedy more than there is , I'm sorry . There's more like a lot of slapstick comedy , I feel like . Rather than the lines being funny . And then I do enjoy the last I wrote . The last 30 minutes of it Was like a good wraparound .
Speaker 2I came around to Sandy . I was rooting for Polly , I was booing Lisa and I hate that they make people attractive by giving them a tan and long hair because in grandma's boy the good , the pothead oh , yeah , it has like here . I'm like it's just the formula , it works , it's working and I hate it . Just that . And clean teeth , we're good to go . That's it . That's all you need easy .
