Hollywood's Gayest Time Capsule

Ever wondered what would happen if you stumbled upon a conversation frozen in time? We're cracking open our podcast time capsule to share this unreleased gem exploring two groundbreaking LGBTQ+ films that changed the landscape of queer cinema.

Dive with us into "But I'm a Cheerleader," the 1999 satirical comedy starring Natasha Lyonne and Clea DuVall that takes aim at conversion therapy with its candy-colored aesthetic and biting humor. We unpack how this low-budget indie film used its pastel palette and 1950s-inspired visuals to mock traditional gender roles and heteronormativity. While not without its flaws, this film boldly tackled taboo subjects when few mainstream movies dared to venture there.

Then we switch gears completely to examine "The Rocky Horror Picture Show," the 1975 musical phenomenon that transcended its initial box office failure to become perhaps the most successful cult film of all time. Tim Curry's magnetic performance as Dr. Frank-N-Furter still captivates audiences nearly five decades later, and we uncover the surprising biblical allegory hidden beneath the fishnets and makeup – did you know it's essentially a queer retelling of the Adam and Eve story? 

These films, separated by over two decades, represent different approaches to LGBTQ+ storytelling but share a common thread of challenging societal norms around sexuality and gender expression. Whether you're a longtime fan or discovering these classics for the first time, our conversation offers fresh insights and passionate perspectives on why these films continue to resonate with audiences today. Join us for this special time-travel episode that celebrates pride, representation, and the evolving landscape of queer cinema.

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Transcript

Welcome to Season 2

Speaker 1 0:10

Welcome to Season 2 of the Double Feature Podcast . Today we're opening up the time capsule . We'll be enjoying one of our unreleased episodes from a few years ago . Think of it as a conversation frozen in time . Buckle up and get ready to time travel in three , two , one .

Introduction to the Double Feature

Speaker 2 0:44

Hey everyone and welcome back to the Double Fe feature , where we review two movies of the same topic . We're your co-hosts , I'm brie , your co-host and I'm blanca . Don't forget to follow us on instagram at the double feature podcast , where we'll be celebrating pride month . Shout out to all my girls , gays and laced and I am tragically heterosexual it's okay .

Speaker 2 1:09

Someone's gotta get the job done . Please forgive me

Review of "But I'm a Cheerleader"

Speaker 2 1:13

. This episode's topic will be pride , of course , and we will be reviewing but I'm a cheerleader and the rocky horror picture show we're gonna start off with but I'm a Cheerleader .

Speaker 3 1:25

Megan considers herself a typical American girl . She excels in school and cheerleading , and she has a handsome football-playing boyfriend , even though she isn't that crazy about him . So she's stunned when her parents decide she's gay and sends her to True Directions , a boot camp meant to alter her sexual orientation . While there , Megan meets a rebellious and unashamed teen lesbian , Graham . Though Megan still feels confused , she starts to have feelings for Graham .

Speaker 2 1:54

This movie is rated R . Its genre is comma dramedy . Lgbtq+ , which I'm proud to say that we have a whole genre for us . Plus , which I'm proud to say that we have a whole genre for us . Uh , it's directed by jamie babbitt , who also wrote it alongside brian wayne peterson . Um , jamie babbitt , you may know them as they also directed the quiet . I'm not sure if you see that . The itty bitty titty committee I don't know that was a film . I don't know me neither . Um breaking the I don't know Me neither . Breaking the Girls Addicted to Fresno Are these all like gay movies ? I don't know . Brian Wayne Peterson , I didn't find much of them for content for movies , but they actually directed , executive produced and wrote with Smallville from the years 2002 2011 . Cool , that's interesting . They wrote beauty and the beast . I don't know if that one was a series . It's the 2012 to 2013 . Oh yeah , tv , tv under the dome I remember that was a sci-fi , yeah did you watch it ?

Speaker 2 2:59

no , yeah , and then , um , yeah , it's pretty pretty much the stuff that I've heard about . I didn't find much in movies . Like I said , it was released september 12th of 1999 and it shows yeah , box office gross usa was 2.2 million . I feel like that was a little bit . That was pretty good for an indie film . Yeah , yeah , it stars the very famous , uh welcomed hetero in the gay community , the unbelievable hetero , natasha leon I love that she has to clarify are you sure you're not a little gay , like if I were to ever interview her , like , are you sure you know ?

Speaker 2 3:41

uh , she plays megan here . Uh , we got clay another one . She is gay , though , right , she's gay . Yeah , thank you . Clea duval , I should have known that as graham . This is probably why I started liking her . I don't know , um , rupaul as mike very pleasant rupaul . We got kathy moriarty as mary brown . Um , yeah , she's the one that owns the institution . Yeah , we got melanie linsky as hillary . We got eddie sibrion as rock . We have katrina phillips as jan and a fan fave dante bosco as dolph . This movie is obviously low budget . It's indie and it's satire . Any comments on that ? It definitely showed it .

Speaker 3 4:29

Well , yeah , so I was watching it and the the colors are weird . Like they're . It seemed very like muted colors or like , and then there'd be randomly like bright pink and bright blue , and so I was just like I didn't know what they were going for . I don't know if it was like their editing or I don't know . I was trying to like make , I was trying to interpret through these colors , but I don't know , it just seemed weird .

Speaker 2 4:57

I did too , and let me tell you , when I was a little girl and you had to actually physically rent movies , we would rent from like an independent place like video max , you know , and I would come across it .

Speaker 2 5:09

And then even brie was like what's this ? What's up with this chicken cheerleaders ? Because I voted for . Bring it on , yeah , as my sexual wakening film , um . But I would look at this cover of her and her cover is just like her sad . Yeah , she's a cheerleader but she looks so sad and like the clouds are behind super 90s . You know what I mean . And I would be so interested in the cover alone , the sad cheerleader .

Speaker 2 5:34

Little did I know , little , little , little did , little blankie , um , but I think all those colors to me , I think it's the satire of the 50s , you know like they're making fun of how unprogressive and traditional , like this whole stupid idea process , because even at one point in time , being gay in the dsm for mental illness dictionary book thing , gay was considered a mental illness , you know . So they're trying to like . So I think that was like a shout out to making fun of how old timey the thing was , because in the 50s , that's when all the pastel stuff was that right , yeah and that's what it looked like to me , like even how everyone was kind of even the way the rooms were I was like yeah , ugly .

Speaker 2 6:15

Yeah , not my favorite era of fashion and interior decor yeah , it was strange , and then also for low budget .

Speaker 3 6:26

I feel like the script was okay , like the right . I mean it wasn't bad , but I it wasn't like nothing , it didn't stir like emotions inside me or anything , it just seemed like okay , this movie's happening I mean , I'll say it , it's very cheesy .

Speaker 2 6:41

Yeah , at the end , my boyfriend I tear up a little bit at the end and my boyfriend's like you picked this , didn't you ? Yes , I did , motherfucker . Yes , I did . And I think the 1950s low budget look goes hand in hand with the indie portion of this film . So is it the best lgbtq plus film ? No , I won't say that cute .

Speaker 3 7:05

I mean it's a cute love story , it's cute .

Speaker 2 7:07

It's cliche . I also realize I like cliches , but I mean it's pretty forward in what it is . It's low budget . The writing isn't supposed to be like , because now I feel like when you say that film's an indie film , I think people expect the expectations are much higher . At least that's the impression I got 1999 , I think I was like seven or six . Well , what the fuck would I know ?

Speaker 3 7:30

yeah , and also , too , I feel like the maybe like the acting decisions were kind of weird . This because the intervention scene where she's realizing that she's gay and she has to say , oh , I'm gay , and she starts crying and drooling and then I think she even goes cross-sighted and I was just like who told ?

Speaker 2 7:53

her to do this . I could see Natasha making that decision but , I could be wrong . I think it's just supposed to be super comic . Is it slapstick ? Yeah , but I found it distracting . I get what's just supposed to be like super comic .

Speaker 3 8:05

What's that ? It's a slapstick , yeah , but I found it distracting , like I get what you mean . The drooling was very distracting , yeah .

Speaker 2 8:09

So I was just like can we leave drooling out of the lesbian films ? Yes please , can we make , can we submit an official request for that , because I don't like that much and I think the guys are more into that .

Speaker 3 8:22

Yeah , I'm forever scarred by that one gay . Was it disobedient ?

Speaker 2 8:31

Don't even say the name of that film . You guys are letting us down . I don't know who the fuck made that film

Gay Conversion Therapy Satire

Speaker 2 8:36

. You let us down and it was so well casted . You could have done so much better . It was right there . It was right there . You just had a not and I feel I don't know if those actresses hated doing that scene . If they have any comment , I don't know if it was signed in their contract to not comment on the scene I have , so many questions about that scene .

Speaker 2 8:53

I look forward to interviewing them someday , someday , oh man , elderly Rachel Weis . Why is it an ? Elderly Rachel McAdams . They'll still be hot , I'm sure . Yeah , if I had that much money , I'm sure . But you know what , for an indie film and for it to be satire , comedy and very low budget , I still feel like this movie was kind of edgy . I feel like it's still talked on the taboo topics of the time . You got obviously gay , gay camp , which I feel is more taboo .

Speaker 2 9:23

If being gay is taboo , gay camps are even more taboo . It's kind of like the pregnancy camps , right ? Yeah , you got teen masturbation being shown on here , yeah that scene was weird too , which one the chick that , I believe , the chick that was zapping herself there was yeah , I think she was masturbating with her little I don't know electroshock therapy thingy .

Speaker 3 9:44

But the scene too with uh megan , where she's like standing and she's like mumbling her anti-gay prayers or whatever do any women masturbate standing up ?

Speaker 2 9:53

I know I was like what a weird way yeah that was again . The male perspective is very much , very obvious yeah in these creative choices . Yeah , I mean I could just think about about her being out of the room because she's such a private person , she's new , she's uncomfortable . I would be uncomfortable masturbating in a room of other chicks that I don't know and I'm gay .

Speaker 3 10:17

Well , I was like , yeah , if you're gay and you're in a room full of girls , like , isn't that ideal your dream ?

Speaker 2 10:23

you know , um , but yeah , that that threw me off too . I was like I don't know what she was doing . And then I watch it now and I'm like now I definitely know what she's doing , and then you have gay makeout scenes and lesbian makeout scenes . So I feel like even today , I feel like some films don't show a lot of especially male with male makeouts yeah you know , I haven't watched every gay movie out there . I tried to and I just couldn't stand it . And then , of course , electrotherapy .

Speaker 3 10:50

I feel like that's not really talked about so yeah , that's a um outdated therapy uh method a very much disproven yeah , talking about you , chick fella did you like the the gay love scene with uh , megan and graham . When they sneak out to sleep together they have sex right like yeah , that's okay that's what I'm taking it as .

Speaker 2 11:17

They had their first lesbian sexy . Oh , when it's um graham and megan yeah , you know I'm always talking shit about these long ass sexiness and I was into and I think it was the song and I think it was the lighting . I think , out of all the times that this movie had like weird lighting and stuff , that was like the one time where it was it kind of fit . Yeah , you know , I don't know what filter or lack of filter that they did . Um , I liked it . It wasn't like too over . I think there was a part where someone sucks the finger and I was like I guess I don't know , um , but I liked it . I feel like it was just enough . And then they talk about it and you could tell that gram is going halfway because she's not making fun of her . The cheerleading no more . Um , which I enjoyed it . What did you think about it ?

Speaker 3 12:03

I thought it was sweet , yeah , and I thought it was . I mean , it was just enough to not be like they were sexualizing the actors , but they were just showing like , oh , these two women are having sex .

Speaker 2 12:17

Yeah , yeah , it was enough to get the message across , and then enough for it not to be too sexy , not to get too turned on . Yeah , we don't want to turn you on , which I feel like is very possible because the , the girls are pretty .

Speaker 3 12:30

Every time I see clay duval I'm just like should I cut my hair again , do ?

Speaker 2 12:35

it . Do it the day you cut your hair .

Speaker 3 12:36

You tell me , and I'll , I'll shave my head it's never gonna look like hers though it's but you look cute in it . I don't know because I feel like , but her hair is always like greasy like , and I'm too fluffy , but it looks nice on you I don't know .

Speaker 2 12:51

So it looks good , um , but yeah , I liked it . I thought you're talking about the gay scene with um dolphin that other guy , oh , the one where they're on the floor and screaming until I hear .

Speaker 2 13:03

Shut up , you bitch . Yeah , shout out to dante bosco . He's great , he's a true . I did not and I like him from the avatar , the next airbender series . He does voiceover and then he came out in hook . Yeah , that's rufio .

Speaker 2 13:19

So I think he and I think we talked about this before he shows his um , residual checks , yeah , and tells you if it's worth what type of dinner . It's worth a steak dinner or a taco bell yeah , um , and I think he's cool and I he's like he's an actor that I would have never expected to be here . Yeah , like they have him as a poc . They have him as a poc here . He , I'm sorry , he's poc gay reppin . There's another guy , the gay Latino , which I love him , and he's like , excuse me , I don't know something . Some guy hot my asses , which I think is a very appropriate response , because I think dudes are like that y'all . They see you crying and helpless . What they think is helpless , you know , they just want to butter you up and get a squeeze . Little moments like that that made the movie for me what do you think about rupaul ?

Speaker 2 14:10

hilarious . I remember being a little kid and watching sabrina the teenage witch and seeing rupaul there like for the first time and just being like . This person is so beautiful , like they're tan beautiful . I didn't know he was black , you didn't know he was black . I was my first time seeing rupaul like in sabrina the teenage witch , like I had no idea like what a drag queen was , like so to see him and he was like all glammed out , and then later , like that tyra banks movie came out . What's her with lindsey lohan ?

Speaker 2 14:42

oh , she's a barbie yeah , and so it was like my first time seeing beautiful black people like on screen , like more showing more beautiful black people on screen that are like into fashion , because I feel like a lot of times they try to make POC the ugly , the ugly side character not very much a main character and RuPaul in that episode was obviously the main character and he totally fucking owned it .

Speaker 2 15:03

So when I got older and I realized that he does , he's a gay man that does drag and I'm like he looks fucking amazing . You know , and even here I mean rupaul's not an ugly guy .

Speaker 2 15:13

I don't think he's ugly , no is he obviously a gay man obviously yeah um , but I thought his character here was funny , the way he's always horny for that other guy and , yeah , disciplining the guys , and he's like , if I catch you staring at his ass , I thought , and I think it only adds on more to the humor you know , I think rupaul can take a joke yeah very comical guy .

Speaker 3 15:34

I remember . I think the first time I saw him he was in the birdie bunch movie . I don't think I've seen that one . Is that the old one ? No , it was like from the 90s or something . Was he rupaul ? Yeah , he was in drag , it was . It was pretty funny . I think jan went to him . Oh , I think he was like the guidance counselor or something and she goes to him for like advice with bullies or something .

Speaker 2 15:55

It was pretty funny , I think it's like there's this cliche , that there's . What is it like ? The glorified black person ? Oh , black magic . Yeah , there you go , black magic and I feel like now that I hear about this cliche , it's like now I can and see it , it's everywhere it is and it's like crazy , uh .

Speaker 2 16:13

But I get the impression that that's kind of like what they were doing with rupaul , like in that in the sabrina the teenage witch episode and then the film , and then here he's not doing that he's poking fun at what's something that's very true , that's very real , um , and I'm glad that this is the way that you take something that is negative and scary and hurtful and try to be a part of something . Where it can , you can turn it into like a positive which is comedy yeah , you know , so props to fruitball .

Speaker 3 16:43

Yeah , and it's crazy because , watching this movie , I had just remembered , uh , I , when I was like in middle school , I used to go to a youth group with the church and I remember one of the people and like running it was this she was a gay woman and she would like tell us like oh yeah , that she was gay , but that , um , she doesn't act on her feelings because of religion and what like whatever . And then it like , at the time I was like young , I didn't think anything of it , but now I'm just like man , that's crazy you know , I , there was a documentary , I think , on netflix that talked about like these getaway camps .

Speaker 2 17:22

Yeah , and it's sad to see in documentaries that people , exactly how you said , are living that lifestyle . Now they're trying to spread what they have learned . And there are people who are like the characters , the gay characters that come out um , I didn't write down their names , but the ones that have like the neighboring oh yeah , the neighboring house right , they were also there . It's a process . So when I had to watch the documentary , I was like offended , like how could you ? But then , after , you know , watching this film later on , because it was too hurtful , I couldn't even finish watching the doc . But then , after watching this film , it made me realize , like you know , for some people it really is just part of that process and I hope that you know they stay truthful and safe and I think it reigns true to to life .

Speaker 2 18:07

I can't imagine how much it must be constantly to be gay and hide . Yeah , because he obviously wanted a piece of that ass rupaul wanted . Yeah , it's his name rock rock . You know , I think it's so funny . Yeah , and you know what I got to say something ? I think everyone in this fucking movie is gay , except for Megan's parents . Well , obviously , all the parents , right , yeah .

The Rocky Horror Picture Show

Speaker 2 18:39

But I even think that the owner of the institution , mary , I think she's gay too , and the only reason why I think that is because when she was discussing with Megan in the one-on-one like oh , when you're in the locker room and she starts describing and she's kind of into it .

Speaker 2 18:52

Heteros don't do that , you know , Not really straight heteros , at least you know Blanca when we were at the spa and I saw you In the mud In the mud in the mud as a sexy pig . No , I know , but I think I don't know . I thought I got the impression that she too was gay , which fits fits the whole comedy center for me , yeah .

Speaker 3 19:23

And then there was a scene and I was like was Jan molested ? Which fits the whole comedy center for me ? Yeah . And then there was a scene and I was like was Jan molested when they were talking about finding your root , about why you're gay , and she said something about oh , I forgot what she said , but they were like oh , you must have got confused when this thing happened to you , or something .

Speaker 2 19:45

Maybe I didn't connect that dot , but there's people out there too , you know , for both sides . Yeah , you know , and I found that very uncomfortable , having to share your root . Yeah , like with a whole room of people . You're digging for days in your mind like what your root is yeah .

Speaker 3 20:03

I thought it was so funny , though , when graham she was like my mom got married in pants . It's hilarious , like that's gonna turn you gay .

Speaker 2 20:12

That's ridiculous and they're all listening and taking her on seriously and I thought it was funny how megan was like oh well , my dad got laid off and the parents are just like petrified yeah , they're like oh , it's all my fault good , I'm glad you're feeling this type of way , um , but it's crazy , like I feel . I would feel so vulnerable and like being a teenager is such a sensitive time .

Speaker 2 20:34

You got your hormones yeah , and you have a sense of um what do you call it like , um autonomy . Now you know you're at a funky age where it's like you have an autonomy . You can't listen to your parents or defy them . You know you have that type , that level of control now . But yeah , I was uncomfortable , because what if she was , you know ? Now you have to disclose that . Now you have to process this memory and then also disclosing how embarrassing yeah , and then it's a ridiculous .

Speaker 2 21:05

Um , it's just dumb , like oh , there's one thing in your life that made you gay , like yeah , I can't , and this is why I say it's like satire of the 50s , because only like you would have that process in the 50s like something made you gay . Like there has to be a thing yeah , and this only further like made the whole thing of women stay in the household and whatever right oh yeah , these ideas , the steps they were doing .

Speaker 3 21:30

I wrote them down . What are they ? Step one was admitting you're a homosexual very classic for a step program . And then , oh , the step two rediscovering your gender identity . So that's when all the girls were like scrubbing the floors . And then the guys were outside like chopping wood , slave labor over here , and I was just like , oh my God .

Speaker 2 21:50

Oh , my God , the chopping wood part .

Speaker 3 21:54

And then step three was family therapy . Step four was demystifying the opposite sex . Dude , that part is creepy .

Speaker 2 22:03

That was funny . It's funny , but it's also creepy . Like you're gonna demystify , demystify what ?

Speaker 3 22:10

and then the last step , the simulated sex that okay .

Speaker 2 22:14

That one was the part that really made me uncomfortable that was weird uncomfortable hetero sex in front of everyone . Yeah , sex the first time . I'm assuming it's uncomfortable for everybody . Yeah , you know awkward ? Oh yeah , I should say awkward for everybody . And it just looks so uncomfortable and all and I felt secondhand awkward even though I was just watching it and then it was that guy's mom .

Speaker 3 22:36

She was like okay , now thrust into her . And then what did she ? Said she , she was like oh , like skip foreplay , Just go right in . And that's when he was like mom .

Speaker 2 22:48

How embarrassing . Embarrassing for everyone . I can't believe that bitch had a real business going on . I know the desperation .

Speaker 3 22:56

Jeez . So if this is a gay movie , what was up with the dumb dancing at the gay bar ? I have no idea . I thought your people knew how to dance .

Speaker 2 23:12

The white people girl , the cop out the cop out .

Speaker 3 23:17

They go to this gay bar and the music was like upbeat , right yeah . And then some girl comes over and she's like oh , you want to dance ? And then they were like slow dancing and I was like what the hell is this ?

Speaker 2 23:29

I think it's also just like the uncomfortable , because this is new for Megan , you know . So I feel like it's just all awkward and uncomfortable . I think it's like I took it as like the way she feels on the inside is the way she's demonstrating on the outside . She's uncomfortable , she wants to maintain her space . I'm sure she's wanting to observe everything . She wants to keep an eye on Graham too . I don't know . I liked her character a lot here . You know . I get the perspective of rich people here Because I had no idea that if you don't obey your parents , that they will cut you off completely and become homeless .

Speaker 2 24:02

Yeah , I had no idea . It's not like latinos . They don't care if you went to prison yeah , you're welcome back home anytime . Yeah , they don't care if you have three baby daddies yeah , most of them . Oh , so it's okay , though have you still here at home , and you know so . To me it's kind of like damn , that sucks . So it was eye-opening in that way , um , of a different perspective of a world that I don't know of , and then how , at the end , she was really she was going to move , go forward with it in order to not be , and to me that's also very 50s . Yeah , you know a lot of women that were gay , you know .

Speaker 2 24:43

And men fear of violence and murder and now um , a lot of them are coming out now .

Speaker 3 24:49

Yeah , it's it's crazy how many people like got married , had kids and then later in life they're like , oh , I've been gay this whole time and I think that's the fear .

Speaker 2 24:59

You know it has to be the fear because I mean , and you have some people I feel like more females than males that move in with a friend , a friend quote unquote yeah , and then they don't have kids obviously yeah and they live with their best friend for on a farm .

Speaker 2 25:16

Yeah , you know what I mean and I feel like with women it's like more acceptable , but if you're a dude it's kind of like that's a no-no , like they want to hook up everyone with the man so they can go and reproduce Same with the women , but I feel like I don't know . So I thought that was like another thing referenced like in the 50s idea .

Speaker 3 25:34

So what would you have done if you were in the gay camp ?

Speaker 2 25:37

If I was a Mexican woman in this , like kind of like 50s ish kind of thing , I mean I'm assuming I would submit . I mean there aren't a lot of there weren't a lot of options for us .

Speaker 2 25:49

There's a few better ones now , but I mean , if I'm gonna be , you know what , I will probably go to that other camp yeah you know the free camp , um , and I like how they , how that guy put it , like we just want to give you your options , and I think that's a great way to put it in it , because I think a lot of times everyone , no matter what the age is , we make decisions when we on what we know , yeah , you know , on what we assume . Thank God for the internet now , because now you can just Google a resource and it can be available to you , even electronically , because of technology .

Speaker 2 26:21

But back then it's like if you're gay , how are you going to connect with a gay ? I know that they used to have this whole bandana code . Oh , I didn't hear about that . Okay , so according to the color of the bandana and where you wore , it indicated if you were single , if you're taken , if you're down for ass play if you're not for ass play like if you're down to suck each other off , like things like that so those were the little codes that people , that gays , were using to communicate with one another , and then that's like the only one that I know of , but it's like before the internet .

Speaker 2 26:59

good , good luck . There's no grinder . I know no grinder , no bumble . But what about you ? What would I do ? Hell yeah , girl .

Speaker 3 27:09

What would I uh ?

Speaker 2 27:12

Mexican woman in the 50s world .

Speaker 3 27:15

Yeah , I guess I would try to just play along . I guess you would . Yeah , you're my gram . Yeah .

Speaker 2 27:30

But it's kind of sweet to see that they ran . And those ugly ass dresses oh my god , yeah , those are there's , and with those 90s hairs like where are we what ? What world are we this ? 1990 ?

Speaker 3 27:36

they were really trying to stop them from finding each other attractive . They're gonna put you in this ugly ass dress . We're gonna do your hair all stupid and you're not gonna want to be with her anymore . Yep , yep , yep . Now it's time for the reverse bechdel test .

Speaker 2 27:58

All right , what does this do on the reverse bechdel test ?

Speaker 3 28:01

on the reverse Bechdel test On the reverse . It passes . We got a winner , motherfuckers . Because there was a scene with all the men working on the cars chopping the wood , trying to be men . So funny . All right , we got a winner , y'all .

Speaker 2 28:20

So as far as ratings . So out of 89 reviews , the tomato meters at a 42 audience score of over 25 000 ratings 74 . I'm surprised the community has risen up y'all . What do you rate this movie ?

Speaker 3 28:41

Yeah , I think I'd give it a 7 out of 10 . Because it's I mean , it's a cute movie , but I think if they remade it today with the same actors , I think they would probably do it a lot better .

Speaker 2 28:55

I think so too . I think this movie . I rate this movie an 8 out of 10 because I don't know what's missing about it . There's a missing component and I can't put my finger on it , and I think for a comedy it's not quotable . Yeah , and I think that that's what's the missing link here , if it would have had these one-liner hits , or maybe it's just . I just enjoy that , I enjoy that cliche , because everybody loves a quotable movie , and that's the thing now .

Speaker 2 29:23

And how we relate to each other , how we respond to each other entertainment and how we like even TikToks , like there's so many things that you have that are like one liners or a whole conversation that people are reinterpreting into their own personal lives with the use of an audio because it's so relatable . Yeah , that's the missing piece here , but think otherwise . I think the casting is great , I think it's funny . I love that . It's a like a low budget indie film and I bought this movie next up for review .

Speaker 3 29:55

The rocky horror picture show in this cult classic , sweethearts br . Brad and Janet , stuck with a flat tire during a storm , discover the eerie mansion of Dr Frankenfurter , a transvestite scientist . As their innocence is lost , brad and Janet

Tim Curry and Musical Numbers

Speaker 3 30:12

meet a house of wild characters , including the rocking biker and a creepy butler . Through elaborate dances and rock songs , frankenfurter unveils his latest creation , a muscular man named rocky this movie is obviously rated r .

Speaker 2 30:29

It's considered a musical comedy . It's directed by jim sharman . You might know him from the night the prowler I didn't remember that and Shock Treatment it's 1981 . I didn't think about that . He also wrote this film alongside with Richard O'Brien , who he plays Riff Raff . Yeah , I was just gonna say that All his other stuff I'm not really like sure of and I think it's because they released like later , I mean back then Jubilee , 1978 . Flash Gordon oh , he played a quarter of Flash Gordon . I guess he played a character . Let me see , hold on . For the most part he plays characters and voiceovers , like he's come out in Phineas . Ferb oh , he came out in Elvira's Haunted Hills . I don't know if you've seen that one , I don't think so . As Ferb , oh , he came out in Elvira's Haunted Hills . I don't know if you've seen that one , I don't think so In the Dungeons and Dragons movie . He was a character there . So I feel like he's done more acting .

Speaker 2 31:32

This movie was released in September 29th of 1975 . It's a 70s movie and it shows I don't know what 75 . You know what I thought it was an 80s movie . I'm not gonna lie , I thought that too . I looked it up I was like wow , and it was . Box office gross in the USA was 519.0 thousand . It was a flop . To my surprise , you got Tim Curry as Frank and Furture . You got Susan Sarah Dawn as Janet Wise . Yeah , to my surprise , you got Tim Curry as Frank and Furtur . You got Susan Saradon as Janet Weiss . That's how you say it , right , which one Weiss ? Yeah , yeah , thank you . Barry Bostwick as Brad Majors . We got Richard O'Brien as Riff Raff , patricia Quinn as Magenta Meatloaf as Eddie , peter Hinwood as Rocky and John Adams as Dr Scott . So I just want to say that this movie , I feel , demands to be respected . Yes , I , in my high school production we only did a few numbers of this film , your high school .

Speaker 3 32:42

Authorized this .

Speaker 2 32:42

Yes , we only did a few numbers of this film your high school authorized this , yes , and I think it's just because we did the time warp for the halloween portion and but I was magenta and I had so many of my friends being like that guy thinks you're hot . I was like , no , he doesn't . He just , he likes the maid outfit , um , but this movie , um , it's considered , uh , according to the internet , the ultimate cult movie , the first , the biggest one , because after 40 years , it's what they call ritualized worship . So I think that's like when they go to the theater and they start acting that shit out . Yeah , and I'm like this is crazy . It has grossed over70 million worldwide and holds the record for the longest continuing running movie release of all time . Nice , I had no fucking idea about this shit . Yeah , I had no idea . It's still making money .

Speaker 3 33:31

It's still making money . I have a Rocky Horror purse , you do . Yeah , I bought the DVD .

Speaker 2 33:37

I had no idea . Yeah , so everybody knows the US film critic , roger Ebert , right ? Yes , he said that he originally gave this movie a two and a half star rating . It's because he's stupid and he quotes . He says , I quote the Rocky Horror Picture Show will be more fun , I suspect , if it weren't a picture show . It belongs on a stage , with the performers and audience joining in a collective send up .

Speaker 2 34:02

It started as a stage play right and I can see that , and that makes sense and I I can only assume that they wanted to to make it available to everyone , and I don't see anything wrong with that . Um , I do kind of like that . It is , um , it looks like a low budget indie film . Yeah , because these people were like doing the time warp and there was no continuity at all . I felt like it was a high school production . It reminded me of my own .

Speaker 3 34:31

I was getting flashbacks bitch like well there was . I caught tim curry looking at the camera in one one scene . You see what I'm talking about . Which Wishy do you remember ? It was in the Sweet Transvestite Time Warp . When they're in that room he looks directly at the camera . And he quickly glanced away .

Speaker 2 34:52

I'm into the get . I think people are attracted to femininity . Because I'm not attracted to him . I think he has a sultry voice , yeah the voice is iconic . Yeah , that's number one . And then I think he just owns the whole confidence . Yeah , yeah , that's exactly what it is , because I'm like I'm not into these black lined , overly glossed red lips . I'm not into it . But he's pulling it off , yeah , so this movie demands its respect . Um , I think people still , you know , act it out when it's on at the theaters um .

Speaker 3 35:24

I think I'm like word vomit over it because I performed it for four years in high school , nice , my family , we had a rocky horror party and I was also magenta just put on a costume yeah , a maid outfit , there you go frizz out your hair .

Speaker 2 35:39

You're good to go . I kind of really like the other girl this time around , though . Columbia . I liked her glittery outfit . Yeah , I also like her squeaky voice . It reminds me a lot of Tinkerbell , yeah . Yeah so . I mean , I don't know if there's like any reference to like them , like her character and tinkerbell , but I've seen that a lot and I don't know if it's because she was small and squeaky , maybe maybe . But I also kind of like her friendship with um magenta so horny aliens .

Speaker 2 36:16

Okay . So I watched this movie when , obviously when I had to come on the and I didn't get it , I was like this movie is so long , what is happening ? It's all coming in and out and I didn't . I don't remember paying attention that they were horny aliens . And so now I started , you know , because we watch alien movies before . Yeah , this was the first time I had ever thought about an alien is horny .

Speaker 3 36:41

He made his own horny creation now top notch , and then was meatloaf his first creation , or he was one that I think meatloaf was a person and he just came and he was like having sex with meatloaf , and then he got bored and he's like I'm just gonna make this other dude and have sex with him .

Speaker 2 37:01

So he put him in the freezer yeah , crazy , can't keep disposing of these people like this . That's crazy . He just came to earth to have sex with everybody . I'm seeing , I'm seeing , I'm like this yeah , he came , he came to create and fuck . Yeah , I see that and I feel like as an alien . I get it . Well , not that I get it , but he definitely is doing the job . He's dressing up feminine . He knows he's a dude , he knows these people are about to wed . He doesn't care , they don't care . There's a lot going on in this fucking film .

Speaker 3 37:37

Yeah , are you ready for me to blow your mind ? I am . This movie is a gay Adam and Eve story .

Speaker 2 37:47

Explain . When you told me that I read that , I was like what Am I ready to be blown ? So there's a lot of biblical references .

Speaker 3 37:57

The movie starts off at a church . The first scene is the cross , and then it like zooms out and it's the church and the people are getting married . So then you have brad and janet , so they're supposed to be adam and eve and they're innocent . And then they go into the mansion , which is like this warped garden of eden type of place , and then they meet dr frankenfurter . He's not a man , he's not a woman , he's not of this world , he's like . He's kind of like god and devil , the devil at the same time creator yeah .

Speaker 3 38:33

And then when he's singing the song about rocky , he was like , oh , in just seven days I'll make you a man . Oh yeah , god created the world . And well , six days . And on seventh he rested . And then , um , I think columbia , when she's singing a part of the song she calls him . She says like , oh , a snake of a man gave me an evil wink and he had the devil's eyes . Oh yeah , that makes sense . So he's like the snake in the garden and he's like tempting right . So he tempts both of them , brad and Janet , and then they have sex with him . And then the other guy , the little narrator that they keep cutting out back to .

Speaker 2 39:11

The criminologist .

Speaker 3 39:11

Yeah , he says like , oh , only like hours after they announced their engagement , they both ate the forbidden fruit . Oh shit .

Speaker 2 39:20

Yeah , that's crazy .

Speaker 3 39:26

Yeah , so they , you know they , they accept the temptation and then they start to go against , uh , frankenfurters like his , his rules or his requests or any stuff , and then he kicks them out of his castle , which is like the garden the garden oh my god , I had no idea the fucking riffraff .

Speaker 2 39:42

Are you Christian ? Are you Christian , Richard O'Brien ? No hate , Because I do enjoy that . I do Like . I'm not a religious person by any means , but I do like . You know . I like it when they put religion on screen . That's so creative though . Who would have he just like recreated Adam and Eve ? Yeah , he just like recreated Adam and . Eve yeah , beautiful In the 70s , in the 70s yeah .

Speaker 3 40:03

Well , okay , so this is just me making my own theories . But the guy Richard O'Brien , he was like an out of work actor , and I don't know if he couldn't find work because he was gay or whatever , but he so he wrote this for himself , right , so he could have a job . And so I'm thinking in the 70s , you know , it was not a good time to be gay , and he's probably frustrated with the church , so he was like I'm gonna take your bible story and make it gay and it's gonna be the most successful movie of all time I'll show you yeah , seriously , you know what that's a recipe .

Speaker 2 40:41

That's a good recipe for a freaking script right there yeah , creating the bible yeah , that's so creative . Though props to him , though props to him . I had no idea . I did not see any of those references . You caught a few greek references too . Yeah , the only one I could think of is rocky . Rocky and his body and his body .

Speaker 3 40:58

Yeah , yeah . Well , there was like the artwork around the mansion . There's like the statue , like the statue of David . He's just like naked with his wiener out . Yeah and um , when they open the curtain and it's their bed , it's the guy and he's holding the world on his back with atlas oh yeah yeah

Speaker 3 41:19

and then , um , when he freezes them to stone , the thing is called the medusa machine , or oh shit yeah the medusa , I didn't even think about that . And the greeks were known for just having sex with everybody they were bats , right , bats everywhere yeah , and then , um , when they would do like a mentorship , like , say , you wanted to be like a shoemaker or whatever part of your mentorship was to have sex with the , the person teaching you the trade .

Speaker 3 41:50

So the greeks were oh , freaky oh , freaky , they're the land of the olive oil but this makes sense .

Speaker 2 41:57

Why um frankenfurter would want to have like greek , why he was so interested in the greek references ? Right because I'm assuming he's the one that did the decor , yeah , you know , so he wants . I feel like it goes hand in hand .

Speaker 3 42:11

Horny indian greek yeah , he's like , I like these people .

Speaker 2 42:15

They get me yep , exactly which I'm like . I guess it would make sense if he was in greece , but not pennsylvania , where the yeah

Biblical References and Final Thoughts

Speaker 2 42:24

, the wrong place homie , they're in the middle of nowhere and so I didn't understand too , like why did ? Why did riffraff and magenta be his sidekicks ? And then at the end , no , they're like , you're gonna be our prisoner now but then they like yeah , I don't know , I didn't get that part either . That was the part that , like I didn't get it , like there have been two of you this whole time .

Speaker 2 42:48

If anything , there was more of you . Yeah With meatloaf . Yeah , you know , I don't know . And then they're alien sooth .

Speaker 3 42:55

All three of them . Oh , they eat meatloaf , they're . But then people like joke around . Let's say it's not the last supper when . So this is my flesh . Oh , eat my eat my body .

Speaker 2 43:10

I have respect for meatloaf's character now , because this whole time I was like I could have done without him . But now , in memory of you , eddie rest in peace what was your favorite song ? So we got a few favorite songs . You guys , let us know too which songs you like . We got science fiction double feature , which I could have done without that long ass 70s intro .

Speaker 3 43:34

I could have done without that was the guy um richard richard o'brien , he sang that song too yeah , you're right .

Speaker 2 43:42

He also sang over at the frankenstein rich O'Brien Time Warp is sung by Jonathan Adams . I don't know who . That is Hot Patootie . That's a meatloaf song . Richard O'Brien Once in a While , Richard O'Brien Well he wrote all this stuff .

Speaker 2 44:01

I'm Going Home . Damn it , janet , sweet Transvestite . Sword of Damocles . Damocles , thank you , toucha , toucha , toucha , touch me right , touch me . Yeah , rose , tint my world and superheroes . I mean , I guess it's obvious , sweet trans , transvestite , he fucking kills it . Tim Curry . I think he's the only one credited . Yeah , besides the Time Warp , that isn't credited by Richard O'Brien . He fucking owns it , he dominates it , he has a sultry voice . I'm sad he didn't narrate more shit . You know , do some audiobooks Something , bro . Yeah , he could have .

Speaker 3 44:50

Totally . You know , do some audiobooks , something , bro , he could . Yeah , he could have . Totally . What about you ? Oh , I really like meatloaf's song hot patootie , hot patootie . Is that the one when he comes out ? When he comes out , whatever happened to saturday night ?

Speaker 2 44:58

you love all that I love it . I love it . That's like what ? What genre is that ? That's not 70s rock and roll the saxophone .

Speaker 3 45:06

There you go , so good but he's not bad .

Speaker 2 45:09

Like I don't listen to meatloaf , you guys missed it . I googled meatloaf thinking about the artist . But I just googled meatloaf and I got a bunch of meatloaf recipes and I went back to my phone . I was like what the fuck is this ? But um he could sing like I can't lie like that's what I miss about like artists older artists like you had to have talent to get your ass on the radio .

Speaker 2 45:35

Now you got a bunch of industry babies and auto-tune and and I'm not hating on all them , like I would lie if I said I didn't like certain industry babies .

Speaker 3 45:43

Um , but you had to have actual time to sing a song even if you didn't write it , you know have some some at the bare minimum , be able to sing and um , he's got it , I can't hate but I do think the beginning started strong and I think as the movie went on the songs kind of got a little boring I liked damn it , janet .

Speaker 2 46:05

I think it had like a good beat . I like the pattern of that song , but for me , although this film obviously demands respect and I do respect it but for me I just felt like it was too long . How long is it ? I want to say two hours . Oh no , it's one hour and 35 minutes . So maybe it's not that it was too long , it was just too much going on for me . Like , this is a movie where you have to sit . In my opinion , you have to sit down and pay attention to it . Yeah , because I didn't , and I obviously missed that they were horny aliens . This whole time I was like this fucking , this fucking , what is it ? Taking advantage of ass , like transvestite , like taking advantage of these I'm assuming virgins .

Speaker 2 46:48

He's probably like oh virgins , I haven't had virgins , the only virgins to come across this path . You know what I mean ? Um , but yeah , to me I think it's just so much going on , but then again it's a musical . I feel like musicals they do that . It's part of their story , you know but yeah , that song I'm going home .

Speaker 3 47:07

It's kind of . It's kind of dragging , and then , like that , the ending , when they're like , oh , come on , let's go do the floor show , and they're I don't know . It's just like where's this going ?

Speaker 2 47:20

yeah , let's drag a little dragging . I know this defeats the entire purpose of Frankenfurter , but I can totally see Miley Cyrus pulling that off . You know what I ? Mean yeah , just do it . Just do it , the people want it .

Speaker 3 47:41

Well , better than was . Did you see the remake with Laverne Cox ? What remake . They redid the rocky horror with the actual , the abc .

Speaker 2 47:52

Yeah , no , real transvestite , they made a they made a bunch of the I didn't watch . I think the only one that I kind of that I did watch was greece with vanessa . Oh my god , I know you hate it . Um , you know why I watch ? It is because her father , something happened to her father like the night before and she continued to go on yeah and I was like I want to see .

Speaker 2 48:14

I want to see if she shows , I want to see if she acts , I want to see if she , because you know that , you know what they say , the show must go on , yeah . So I wanted to see , and the show damn did go on , but no , I didn't see . It did , uh , lauren did a kick-ass job , or no , she did not , damn , she didn't deliver she did not deliver .

Speaker 2 48:33

You know , you , you gotta have , in my opinion , a dominating personality , strong presence , singing chops , yeah , acting chops . I think you need to have all those four things , and I don't I haven't seen a lot of laverne cox's thing , um , like , um , her rep sheet , so I don't know , I don't know what , if she has what it takes or not , but those are the qualities that you need to look for on something as iconic as to perform the song sweet transvestite , yeah , and I think maya cyrus has all of those things , yeah , I think , yeah , she fucking dominates it and she can sing . She's one of the few disney child children that can sing . But yeah , this movie had a shit ton of stuff .

Speaker 2 49:18

It had an affair , basically , science creations , murder oh my god , he just killed him at like nothing in front of all those people , and then they just so those are the things that kind of throw me off about this movie and I can't assume that if I was at a theater that it would be a little bit more comical . But it just looks scary and I think it was the screaming in the background . I think that's what it was . So I don't know how it does like as a play , but on screen I don't think it translated well , but this one we had everything you know and aliens .

Speaker 3 49:55

So I was like there's so much going on right now and then they just like they just leave and I'm like , okay , so then what ?

Speaker 2 50:01

brad and janet just go off and live their life now like loose ends yeah and um , I think that's kind of like what disturbs me about certain gay films . It's kind of just like throw this in there . It's not cohesive in in the plot development and this is one of those films because that other one call me by your name . I was just getting so frustrated and I hate . I hate that . Like I want to watch more and if you have any any recs for LGBTQ plus films , please do , because the ones I've been watching lately not hidden . But yeah , I'm like this plot is like back and forth , but it's the 70s . I'm sure he was doped up making this respectfully respect respectfully , it was a different time , is what ?

Speaker 2 50:44

I mean is what I'm saying . People were pregnant and drinking is all I'm saying . Different time is what I mean . Is what I'm saying ? People were pregnant and drinking . That's all I'm saying . Different time , okay , so do you have any ? Did you feel anything about that ? Ending humans lost in space , lost in time , lost in meaning do you feel anything about that ?

Speaker 3 51:02

I feel like it's , I feel like I'm a happy person . You are yeah . Yeah , so I'm like humans is being lost and I was just like can't relate .

Speaker 2 51:18

I guess I can relate . I'm like I do feel lost in this space , sometimes Like I'm not meant to work all the time you know , and I do feel lost in time . I feel like I'm always worried about time I always feel rushed in my head .

Speaker 2 51:30

I always feel like you're wasting my goddamn time . Time is all I got left , bitch , yeah , don't make me waste it . Lost in meaning ? I think that's true too . I feel like a lot of people seek meaning , so I feel like people are trying to find meaning in their job . Some people are trying to find meaning in being a parent . Some people try to find meaning in um . I think those are the two top things actually . Yeah , oh , love , love , yeah .

Speaker 2 51:54

A lot of people put their significant other , you know , before them or um , not not just love , but just uh , not just romantic love , but like the love that they have for their parents and like living by what their parents want . You know what I ?

Speaker 2 52:09

mean . So I that spoke to me and I also feel like people are always like , oh , human because of the whole alien thing , right . So now I was like all thinking about aliens and shit and it was like , oh , lost in , lost in space , like lost in time , lost in meaning , and it just reminded me of like how in the matrix they're , like humans , are parasites and they just multiply and like don't give a fuck about anything else that's like surrounding them or how it affects other things . So it kind of gave me that vibe and I was like I'm glad it's ending , I'm glad it left me on a thinking note yeah , it definitely ended on a kind of a negative , pessimistic note open open interpretation type of a thing which I'm not a fan of .

Speaker 3 52:52

I don't know , yeah , I'm not . I know I like resolution . I like you do too , yeah .

Speaker 2 52:58

I don't know , I could . I could see this becoming . If it was a movie of this time , I could see this becoming a series yeah like straight up , like , and I think it will have a better plot development because and again because the time is different like there's a lot of out people now today .

Speaker 3 53:13

Well , sorry . One thing I did want to mention is when they were at the end doing their the the floor show routine and then brad , like he's on the floor and he brings his leg up behind him and straightens his leg out , and I was just like , oh , he's flexible girl , yeah . And I was like , oh , I didn't expect , I didn't see that coming .

Speaker 2 53:34

I also didn't see , like um , janet fucking rocky . Oh yeah , I was like everybody's , just fucking everybody here , like that herpes and chlamydia no fucks given it , it was the .

Speaker 3 53:46

Garden of Eden . You're so right . No STDs here . It's paradise .

Speaker 2 53:51

Remember that one time we went to East LA and we learned like the opposite Bibles , the opposite Bibles , yeah , the other stories of the Bible , like Lilith , oh , yeah , yeah . And I was like I'm so sorry I brought you here . I don't know what the fuck this was gonna be those chicks , okay . So these chicks were like these . How do I the rebellious yeah , was it rebellious punk rocker like but ? They had dreads .

Speaker 2 54:18

Yeah , the stereotypical feminist yeah feminist chicks and I went to some event and heard about it and so I was interested in it and I invited brie . She came and after that I was like I have , that was interesting , like I had .

Speaker 2 54:31

Well , I didn't . That was the first time I heard about lily , yeah , so so that that was interesting to me . But these chicks were so riled up , yeah , and I don't know if we were like young , what were we like early 20s ? Yeah , we were . Yeah , I don't know if it's because we were early 20s and I don't know if they were poc , because they were poc , so they were extra vile , yeah , but I remember leaving there like drained and like a little on it I was like , should we go ?

Speaker 3 54:57

should we burn a building down ?

Speaker 2 54:59

what do we do ? All that energy , I know , but it's just like I don't . And I and I feel like there was a gay community population in that group too . So I was like , oh , I forgot about that . I thought about that the other day and I was like , oh my god and I was like I don't think we should hang out anymore .

Speaker 3 55:20

You did you thought that .

Speaker 2 55:22

No , I was like that's hilarious .

Speaker 3 55:24

I'm like shit she's calling . I'm not , I'm not gonna answer . That's how I was .

Speaker 2 55:27

Like I can't remember how I got there , but I was like that's hilarious .

Speaker 3 55:29

I'm like shit she's calling , I'm not , I'm not going to answer .

Speaker 2 55:30

That's how I was like . I can't remember how I got there , but I was like never See . This is why I don't like hanging out with new people , because this is like what , if it was like an orgy that we went to and I just didn't know ? This was totally not what I thought the ad was about . Oh , this into ? Yeah , seriously , I was like that was not . I wanted to leave halfway through that thing , but I was so curious at the end of it I was like you wasted my goddamn time but I will always remember that .

Speaker 2 55:53

I will always cherish that day with you . It was a good day . Sorry , sorry , I took you there . I blocked that out .

Speaker 3 56:00

I totally , you sure did oh all right , so any last notes uh , just like I know a lot of trivia . Uh , susan sarandon . She got sick with pneumonia when filming the movie because she was naked in her underwear the whole time do it for the sake of the film .

Speaker 2 56:23

Show must go on . The .

Speaker 3 56:25

I hate that this is no , yeah , uh tim curry , uh richard o'brien and , I think , uh patricia quinn . They were all in the original stage play , but when they were gonna make the movie they were like , oh , we need to cast american actors . So brad and jan Janet were supposed to be like the famous American actors damn that sucks yeah .

Speaker 2 56:50

Tim Curry is British .

Speaker 3 56:52

British . He's from London .

Speaker 2 56:56

I had no , but I should have known . I should have known his last name is Curry . Got it okay , he's British honestly , their shoes were cute .

Speaker 3 57:07

I was looking at the costumes . I was like these , all their shoes are like super cute , oh damn it .

Speaker 2 57:11

I didn't even notice . I just noticed meatloaf spike . Oh well , it's pretty interesting . And then , um uh , magenta's outfit too , and I like how they were in the room making fun of making fun of janet . It felt very Grease to me oh yeah , god damn these musicals Just making fun of the new girl . But I liked it because it showed the bond . I like to see girls being friends on screen .

Speaker 3 57:38

Yeah , it was nice .

Speaker 2 57:40

It was nice , All right . So what does this get on the ? What is it ? Because it has Tim Curry , Susan and Barry . Is it the Bechdel or reverse Bechdel ?

Speaker 3 57:51

I don't know , but it .

Speaker 2 57:55

It fills both . I think it fills both . Yeah , damn , we're not going to get a pass with Tim Curry . He's talking about dudes , all the time .

Speaker 3 58:03

I don't know . Is he a man , is he a woman ?

Speaker 2 58:09

Wait , I have a a question . Were you disturbed or you just went along with it that he's fucking everybody in here , you know ?

Speaker 3 58:12

okay , honestly so this is weird . I'm ready , you're ready . So when I was a little kid , my dad would take us to the video store to rent movies and for some reason , my sister and I would rent this movie all the time , but it was because we liked the music Gotcha . So I've seen this movie ever since I was like five out of seven I don't know how old I was , so I never questioned it that he's just having sex with everyone , because I'm like , oh , that's what happens , right , yeah .

Speaker 2 58:44

And I think it clicked with me too . I was like oh , he's just having an affair and then he just made a person a fuck . Yeah . But watching it now I was like well , it's a comedy . Yeah , like I didn't I didn't feel deeply offended by it . You know they both fucked each other , and then they both fucked frankenfurter , and then janet fucks rocky .

Speaker 3 59:03

All it needed was for brad to fuck rocky yeah , or he should have banged one of the girls . Magenta or Columbia , no fuck that .

Speaker 2 59:10

He already fucked fucking Fanta . How are you going to , frank , fuck that guy and not fuck Rocky ? What ? That makes ? No sense , zero sense . No ,

Episode Wrap-Up

Speaker 2 59:23

what the fuck ? The only woman you can fuck is your .

Speaker 3 59:26

I know that's the rules now , that's the only one you , the only woman you can fuck is your baby .

Speaker 2 59:29

I know that's the only one Can't have her . Okay , so this movie is considered certified fresh on Rotten Tomatoes . No surprise there . Out of 47 reviews , 79% . That's funny . Out of an audience score of over 250,000 ratings , this has an 85% score . What do you rate this movie ? It's a 10 .

Speaker 3 59:51

it's a 10 , 10 out of 10 . It hits all the marks for you , it's all of them . What was it hitting ? It's entertaining . There's , you know , there's like the , the symbols and meanings you can look into and you can interpret it however you want . Um , there's naked people , there's boobies . What else you want with the music ? The soundtrack is fire . I was gonna ask you think susan can sing ? Uh , I think she does an okay job .

Speaker 2 1:00:18

I was gonna say she does that white people . At least she could hit a high note yeah , I feel like she has control for the high notes . I feel like a lot of white people . They do like the I call it like singing , talking , yeah , like the Selena Gomez , respectfully . I can say that we're Mexicans , we're all Mexicans , so like that type of singing I felt like it was .

Speaker 2 1:00:38

I know you love this movie and I'm sorry give this a 7 out of 10 . It demands respect . It does . I will obey . I will watch this movie if it's on , but to me , yeah , I feel like the plot , I think , and I think it was missing again , iconic phrases what you're a hot dog what are you talking about ?

Speaker 2 1:00:59

when have you ever said that to me ? When have I ever heard you say that ? Never damn it , blanca . Yeah , you need to start to this day . I'll come back to you guys next year and I'll tell you how many quotable lines brie has said to me . It is so I think it got around halloween . You didn't even say time warp . I'm not lying . I'm not lying right now . I'm not lying .

Speaker 3 1:01:24

You did not say time where I didn't hear you say anything remember that time we did a high five and our elbows went up , don't ?

Speaker 2 1:01:31

talk with my memory . You hoe , look at her . You don't remember . No , I do not recall this non-existent memory . I do that , but you know what it's ? Tim tim curry does carry this movie , this movie , yeah , he's the star , he's the star . I think some people hate . I used to also hate when people that directed or wrote their films were in the films . It felt very P ? Diddy to me .

Speaker 2 1:01:59

Yeah , didn't like it , and I think I didn't like it because everybody hated P Diddy . But now I'm kind of like , if you can act and it's like not , you know what do I fucking care ? As long as you can act , I don't give a fuck . Yeah , but yeah , that meatloaf killing scene and then the unrelieved ending . But I will respect you , rocky Horror , I will respect you and I will watch you if you are on and I will play and work around .

Speaker 3 1:02:25

I have a Halloween playlist and it's just like this whole soundtrack it better be on there .

Speaker 2 1:02:30

It better be , it's on there .