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Time Capsule: An Unreleased Look at I Am Sam and Interview with a Vampire

• Blanca & Brianna • Season 2 • Episode 10

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Step back in time with us as we unearth a gem from our podcast archives – an unreleased episode exploring two cinematic masterpieces featuring extraordinary child performances.

In this time capsule special, we dissect Dakota Fanning's breakthrough role in "I Am Sam" (2002), which earned her a Screen Actors Guild Award nomination at just eight years old – making her the youngest nominee in SAG history at that time. The film's emotional weight had us both in tears as we examined its core question: what truly makes a good parent? Sean Penn's portrayal of Sam, a father with intellectual disabilities, remains powerful and controversial, while the film's distinctive visual style—using color saturation to represent Sam's perception—creates an immersive viewing experience.

We then dive into "Interview with a Vampire" (1994), where Kirsten Dunst delivers a haunting performance as Claudia, an eternal child with an adult mind. Anne Rice's unique vampire mythology creates a richly textured world that differs significantly from traditional vampire lore. The film's sumptuous period setting, elegant costumes, and classical score enhance its atmospheric storytelling. We couldn't help but discuss the palpable homoerotic tension between Brad Pitt's Louis and Tom Cruise's Lestat—a subtext that seems even more apparent today than when first released.

Both films showcase how exceptional child actors can elevate already compelling narratives into unforgettable cinematic experiences. Whether you're revisiting these classics or discovering them for the first time, our discussion highlights what makes these performances stand the test of time. What's your take on these iconic roles? Join the conversation and share which child actor performance has stayed with you throughout the years.

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Time Capsule Introduction

Speaker 1

Welcome to Season 2 of the Double Feature Podcast . Today we're opening up the time capsule . We'll be enjoying one of our unreleased episodes from a few years ago . Think of it as a conversation frozen in time . Buckle up and get ready to time travel in three , two , one .

I Am Sam Overview

Speaker 2

Today's topic is child actors and we will be reviewing I Am Sam , starring Dakota Fanning , an interview with a vampire , also starring Kirsten Dunst .

Speaker 3

I Am Sam is the compelling story of Sam Dawson , a mentally challenged father raising his daughter Lucy with the help of a unique group of friends as Lucy turns seven and begins to intellectually . This movie is rated PG-13 .

Speaker 2

I was very surprised by that . The genre is drama . It's directed by Jesse Nelson . You might also recognize their work as they directed Karina , karina 1994 .

Speaker 4

I heard of that movie but I've never heard of it .

Speaker 2

They wrote and produced Because I Said so oh okay , it comes with Diane Keaton . Mandy . Moore and Love the Coopers that came out in 2015 . It sounds familiar but I didn't watch it I don't know , it's written by her them . I'm sorry , I don't know if it's male or female . I think it's a female Because I said so , but who knows , Men are always writing female scripts anyway .

Speaker 2

But another writer as well , christine Johnson , who anyway , uh , but another writer as well , christine johnson , who also wrote imaginary crimes . That came out in 1994 . I haven't heard of it , but it made 70.7 000 at the box office , so I don't know . Uh , it was released in theaters january of 2002 and at the box office it grossed 40.3 million . It's starring uh sean penn as sam , michelle pfeiffer as rita , dakota fanning as lucy , diane west as annie . Uh richard schiff as turner , the lawyer , and laura dern as randy , which is one of the foster moms . I just want to talk a little bit about Dakota Fanning . I didn't know this , but this was like her .

Speaker 3

According to the Internet , she rose to fame because of this Like yeah , I was looking her up and it says she was like in some like TV episodes , but I think this was like her first movie . I think it's her .

Speaker 2

I would consider this her breakout role and she was seven years , some like tv episodes , but I think this was like her first movie , I think it's her . I would consider this her breakout role . And she was seven years old , yeah , yeah , and they said that they nominated her for the screen actors guild award at eight . So she was like the youngest nominee inside history at that time . Um , but I was like wow , like that's , that's kind of huge . Like you're in eighth grade , aren't you like in the first or second grade , yeah , so I thought that was very interesting . A lot of things going on in this film . This film is how many ? Two hours and 12 minutes long . So let's start off with the obvious the color saturation .

Speaker 3

Yeah , did you notice ?

Speaker 2

Oh , I did . Whoever didn't notice ?

Speaker 3

you need to go to the doctor it was so annoying to me because , like some shots were like what , normal , like , yeah , bright , colorful , tolerable , yeah , and then the scene would change and it's like this like green , like overlay over the whole thing , kind of like the matrix yeah , yeah , but not executed well so I was . I I didn't understand why they kept changing the colors , so I , your girl , looked into it .

Speaker 2

Uh , according to the internet , the lighting in this movie was supposed to be mostly natural lighting , which I think is the one that's more easy on the eyes , right , but there are some scenes that have low light and it was to symbolize like the worst times in sam's life , which makes sense because in the beginning is the birth , yeah , where it's blue .

Speaker 3

Um , another time , I think he's getting an instruction and he's like repeating it over and over and it's like spinning around I don't or maybe that was when he , when she gave birth there was , I think , one of the scenes when they get , when they run away together and then they're caught , like in the police station or something .

Speaker 2

Yeah , there you go , yeah like then the color would change um , I think it was too much at times , because not only did the , the like filter the lighting change , but it was also like , slow-mo , yeah , like , and then echo audio . It was very

Child Acting and Dakota Fanning

Speaker 2

like . I think the intent was to , like , immerse you in the life and perception of sean penn's character , sam um . To yeah , to demonstrate as well , like , how , the sense I I , as a person that has worked with people on the spectrum I think that's what they were trying to do .

Speaker 2

Like get you to experience the heightening of senses , and I think that was executed . Did I enjoy it ?

Speaker 3

No , yeah , I didn't enjoy it . I'm I feel like the movie is sad already . Like girl , we don't need a flash of color to be like .

Speaker 2

This is a sad scene , like it was a lot of , it was already really sad and I was like , okay , so the for me I hadn't if I seen this film . I genuinely don't remember in 2002 I think I was in the third grade like I'm not gonna watch this film . You know what I mean . It's probably on in the background , but just the beginning , the conception of Lucy , Like the storyline which I mean . If you work in social work , I'm sure that they get a ton of like wowza stories , Like bizarre stories , Like I don't know if there's some truth in the real world of how she was conceived or if it was like Hollywood lie , like let's just throw this in there to make the movie . This isn't going to be the point of the film , it's just a .

Speaker 3

This is the point of the film .

Speaker 2

Yeah , we just need An explanation .

Speaker 3

Yes .

Speaker 2

So I couldn't tell and it was throwing me off , but it worked , because that wasn't the point of the film . Yeah , what did you think about it ?

Speaker 3

think about it . I think it was too much . Well , I was okay . So they say that's a homeless woman and she needed a place to say and she used sam for housing . But I'm just kind of like who who would have sex with someone who is mentally um delayed ?

Speaker 2

or special needs yeah .

Speaker 3

So I was just like what kind of ?

Speaker 2

I don't know . All I gotta say is this movie and in forrest gump they're both getting laid and I'm like forrest gump . I understand I understand , but sam here it was kind of outlandish right yeah , it was out there .

Speaker 2

It was rando , yeah , and so I was like I don't want to offend , like if someone was , because I've heard some crazy conception stories like I'm the , I'm the Sancho , I'm the love child , type of shit you know like , oh , I'm my , I had a friend who her had a friend , so I can say that I can share the story . But basically she was like the love child of her aunt's husband , so her cousins were also her cousins and half-sibling like that type of you know what I mean .

Speaker 2

So when I hear shit like that , I'm like maybe , maybe , but could it also be some hollywood like half-ass ?

Speaker 3

let's just put it there , I don't know , we want to know , though , if anyone knows , please tell us in the comments but yeah girl , this movie had me crying I was gonna .

Speaker 2

Okay , I'm glad you said that . What parts had you crying All ?

Speaker 3

of it . I was like crying throughout the whole thing . Okay , well , I get why . Well , I know , because I'm pregnant . So I'm just like , is this ? I'm like it's happening , it's finally the hormones . But okay , the beginning

Film Style and Emotional Impact

Speaker 3

when the mom ditches him and he's just holding a baby , like out in the street , that scared me . Oh , my God , yeah , I was freaking out . And then the scene where he's like in the grocery store trying to buy diapers and then he's holding the baby , the baby's crying and he doesn't know what to do . I was crying .

Speaker 2

The part that had me crying was Rita's monologue . I was holding back tears . I was holding back tears . I was like I don't want to cry . I feel , like if I cry , I'm gonna need a minute and I had a lot of movies to watch . That day I was like I need to power through .

Speaker 2

But but you know what , like I think it was her monologue about never being enough , like she acknowledges that she , her son , deserved better , that , um , you know she's not reaching the expectations and that he is , he needs to still get his ass in the car . She just broke down crying and they hugged each other and so I was like man , like this story isn't just about , like sam , it's a lot about parenting . It's really questioning , yeah , um , reading the synopsis of this film and like kind of knowing about it , I did not think that this was going to be like what makes a good parent ? Yeah , a question in the general sense , and I thought it was very thought-provoking and it I was holding back tears . I was like I'm not gonna cry . I got like six more hours and I can't , I'm not gonna be there emotionally , emotionally available to all the other films .

Speaker 3

But yeah , there was a lot of point points in the film where it was very suspenseful there was a scene , too , where they're eating at a restaurant and , um , the daughter , lucy , I think , she tells her dad like , um , I think she's like telling him like oh , I'm smarter than you , or something . And then sam is like I'm sorry , there was , but there was like in a part where he said I'm sorry to lucy , and I was just like why , why is this making me cry ?

Speaker 2

and you know , in the forest gump film the the part that makes me cry , where he's like is he smart or is he like me ? Yeah , so when they brought that , I was like I don't know if this is gonna be as good . I don't know if it's gonna stand the test of time the way that forestrest Gump does , because we already know the one where Dustin Hoffman came out and I don't think it did stand the test of time you know what I mean .

Speaker 2

In regards to performance and reference in today's time , how relatable it is . But yeah , this is like a sad , sad , sad . But you know what , in the beginning I was kept taken out of reality by how insightful lucy was . Yeah , at , at seven years old , like I know a lot of seven I've .

Speaker 2

You know I was seven years old yeah , and the way that she speaks um truth . What was she saying ? There was a scene where she kind of like confronts him about that he has special needs and she just speaks so calmly about it and asking these , like you know , kids they ask forward questions but they don't really know what they're talking about . So the voice and the intention of their questions is very light-hearted , carefree , because they're immature , yeah , but her , she asked these questions in in much seriousness , yeah , and it kept taking me out of that reality .

Speaker 2

Like I understand what they're conveying , right she basically on the pavement of having to raise herself . Right , yeah , but it was just like a little too serious , I don't know . Did that take you out of reality for you ? Did you buy it ?

Speaker 3

I didn't think about it until you brought it up right now . That's a good point , but I was in the zone , I was , I was in the movie . I get that , yeah , but um , yeah , because during like um dia de los muertos , I have like , I had pictures up and I had a little kid ask me like oh , who's that ? And I'm like , oh , that's up . And I had a little kid asked me like oh , who's that ? And I'm like , oh , that's my grandma . And and then the little kid is like , oh , and she's dead . But you're right , the kids will say things like because they don't know any better , right , they just kind of say it cheerfully , yeah and curiously yeah , lightheartedly yeah carefree .

Speaker 2

So when she was bringing up these , these points that I could see a child honestly making because I do have had experience . I've been on both . I think we've all been both sides of that door right , we've been , you know , and it's embarrassing , I think , at all points . You know , because I don't know if you've ever been smacked on the head when you ask something inappropriately . You'd be like callate . So maybe that's what it was too . I was like she's asking these inappropriate questions and I'm getting triggered no one's hitting her .

Speaker 3

No one's hitting her .

Speaker 2

She has it too easy , too easy , this bitch . But yeah , she still gave a . They still found ways to make her that innocent . Not the innocent , but like childlike ideas and tendencies with her running away from her foster's home , still being very sneaky , running away with him . Very , very smart . I think every child's solution is to run away . I relate to that , packing my little backpack with my toys , tearjerker all through and through .

Speaker 3

Oh , another scene when they're trying to buy her shoes for school and he didn't have enough money . And then all his friends are like , oh well , here I got $3 and I have a dollar here and I was like gonna cry again .

Speaker 2

It's very hard for me to see the community . They built that . He has um a corner of community and support and they built that entirely throughout the film . Um , I thought it was , it was good , I'm . It looks like they casted some real people , some actors and then

Parenting Themes and Character Development

Speaker 2

some people that are on the spectrum and I was happy about that , because I don't think a lot of films do do that yeah like , yeah , it's not so I was happy to see some representation there .

Speaker 3

The only other person I could think of is that girl from american horror story . Oh , oh , the coven yeah the coven , yeah , um .

Speaker 2

Yeah , you're right . Yeah , she's the only one that I can think of as well , um , because I think the guy from something about mary isn't on the spectrum . No , I don't think he is , but good point . I want to talk about the claws that came out in the courtroom .

Speaker 3

God damn when your son committed suicide .

Speaker 2

I was like oh shit .

Speaker 2

I got down , she was . I wrote what she said . I was quoting that bitch Because she was . What did she say ? She quoting that bitch because she was . What did she say ? She's like she said read a lawyer , uh , saying tasks are challenging . You feel retarded , disabled in some way . Um , when your son od , didn't ? You feel like a like you made a huge mistake and I was like she's gonna fight her . Yeah , like as a , as a mexican raised in south central , I was like and I've been in a courtroom , I don't know if you've ever been a court and you hear other people's business .

Speaker 2

I'm like oh so I thought that bitch was gonna like jump through and like fight um rita , but she didn't , she just sobbed yeah , yeah .

Speaker 3

And then he later on sounds like oh , you made her cry . And rita's like yeah , we got lucky and he's so innocent .

Speaker 2

You know that's wrong . It's just , dude , it's it's . When it comes to the court , shit you , it'd be like that . Oh man , I got another one from mr turner where he says that he's .

Speaker 2

He says I'm very sensitive , especially when I see someone like you give meaning to your life by screwing up someone else's , and I was like damn . I was like you know , I know he's just trying to make his case , but he brings up a good point like what's gonna happen after ? Yeah , if he does get full custody , like do you not have a concern ?

Speaker 3

but I think at that time , for everybody , we didn't know the type of support that he had and will have but even still , I think it is like , yeah , a father with a , you know , mental disability or whatever , however , however you describe it on the spectrum , spectrum whatever , yeah , he's not capable of of raising a child because , because he doesn't know the complexities of the adult real world .

Speaker 2

So yeah , or he , I feel like , has a uh struggles more um struggles with having the coping skills yeah to do it , and I think everybody does . I mean , there's a lot of people that I know that are parents and they drink and use and just to cope with the stresses .

Speaker 2

But I understand what you're saying , like having to be the bigger person all the time being the parent all the time , yeah , and this , this question , like I was saying , this film , like I was saying earlier , just brings out a lot of questions of what makes a good parent , and then they're bringing up these points . You know , we have a mom here whose son OD'd . We have other people here , just different , different ways of putting it about how we are . Try our best , but what is enough ? So I think it did a good job of addressing them . Another one was when Mr Turner asked Annie about her father yeah , cause she's um .

Speaker 3

What is it when you're afraid to go outside ?

Speaker 2

it's not claustrophobia , but agoraphobia , yeah yeah yeah I knew , I , I knew someone whose wife had that .

Speaker 3

Yeah , so then um yeah , and he was coming at her and he was like oh , your experience with fathers . When's the last time you left your house ? How many fathers do you know ?

Speaker 2

and I was like damn so they were painting the picture that she has agoraphobia because her abusive father . Is that what it is like ? Oh , I don't feel like they explained it really neither , except it wasn't until someone said I think um sam said annie's father was a meanie . Yeah , so I assume that he was um abusive yeah an abusive father , an abusive drunk ?

Speaker 2

um , why else would you fear to leave the house ? I wouldn't know , but I was like that . I gotta tell you diane west is becoming one of my favorite she's so like she cheers me up .

Speaker 3

She's got a cute face . Yeah , she had a cute old lady um , I've seen her in her film .

Speaker 2

I Care A Lot . Have you seen it ? Yeah , we were on the edge of our seats of that film and she does such a good job . She's a little cutie .

Speaker 3

So what did you think of Sam's parenting versus Rita's parenting ?

Speaker 2

I think obviously they're different and in a way , they're both unavailable to their children . Yeah , in a sense . So I think I see more of the similarities in them . I think that's what they were trying to show and I bought it . I bought it . Yeah , they're both trying their best . One can work less . One can use more resources , which I think is good that they demonstrated that , because there's a lot of help out there but people don't know the resources and I think I don't know . She was a little bit more strict and cold and then Sam was like a lot more unintentionally lenient , mm , hmm , and very like everything he said on the sand patient , loving and kind . What about you ?

Speaker 3

I thought they were . They both had what the other was missing . Yes , like a puzzle piece . Yeah , like because sam was very he could give you a lot of time and he could just hang out with you and play with you and everyone enjoys it . Yeah , and then , but rita , again , she has more of the financial resources and she could provide all the things that sam can't like a , you know , housing and food and education and whatever . So I was like they complete each other I don't know where's this going oh my god , that was the other thing .

Speaker 3

Say it , did they have sex ? What scene are you talking about the scene where she goes to his house and she starts crying and they hug oh , after her monologue , after her monologue , and then she's . He was like comforting her and I think he kissed her like on the cheek .

Speaker 2

I don't think they had sex .

Speaker 3

But then afterwards , after that , they like meet up again , and then Sam's looking at her funny and he calls her like oh hi , mrs , whatever , oh , more formal , yeah . And then he was like we need to be professional and not too friendly , oh yeah .

Speaker 2

At the diner . Yeah , she smiles at him . You bring up a good point . No wonder . I was like , why are they talking like that ? Are they ?

Speaker 2

talking about being friends . Yeah , is Sam getting laid twice in this film ? He's pulling all the bitches . Yeah , he really is . He really is . I'm afraid , I'm afraid . I think they did it . I hope they did it . I hope they did not , but you bring up very good points , because I was like , why the fuck are they officially announcing that they're gonna be friends ? I thought it was they were both comforting each other , because I feel like the wall was the symbolism .

Speaker 4

Like in Real , women have Curves the wall . So now I see it .

Speaker 2

So that's what I interpret it , as she's knocking down a wall to get through to him . But it's also it's two-sided . They both were able to be vulnerable with each other and hear each other and comfort each other .

Speaker 2

And when you're with someone for a large amount of time , and then you guys are also discussing something so intimate which is , I think , when you talk about your kids as an adult , you talk to another adult about your kids and parenting , which it kind of did become now , right Now that he's being exposed to her home , which I think at that point they already were . There's intimacy , there's closeness , so I thought it was more friendly . But you bring up good points and I'm in Blanca's eyes .

Speaker 2

No , they did not they just got close , but we want to know from you guys Do you think they had sex ? Did you think they did the nasty ?

Speaker 3

And I think because they casted a healthy actor , it's more believable that they would . So I think if , because physically people who have down syndrome they look different , right . So I think if maybe they had casted a person who actually has down syndrome , they look different , right . So I think if maybe they had casted a person who actually has down syndrome and was less , you know , attractive , I think it'd be less believable right , and you know the actress from coven .

Speaker 2

I think she has down syndrome and I think one of the actors here also had down syndrome . Yeah , I think you could tell by the eyes , yeah , and so , um , I don't know about anything , but you know what dude people with disabilities on the spectrum get horny too , like they just started talking about that , and I think for a lot of people it's uncomfortable . I think for a lot of people it's been so taboo that it's just like what kind of perversion is this ? But .

Speaker 2

I mean , I don't know . As far as I know , everyone can have an orgasm . I don't know girl , do you think that there's any backlash on on what they say going full retard ? You mean as far as like the acting ? So let's , let's , let's think about the actors that have done it already . So , obviously , we have tom hanks . Where's gump ? Dustin hoffman , and what's the name of the rain man ? Yeah , man , rain man . Yeah , who else has done it ? There's a movie with Juliette Lewis .

Speaker 3

Yeah , the other sister ? I think so . But I think so . I'm referencing Tropic Thunder when .

Speaker 2

You're so funny . My boyfriend said that when we were watching it as a reference .

Speaker 3

When he's talking to was it Ben Stiller and he's like don't go full retired . So I think all these other actors they played someone like I think autism or like their mental capability was better than others . So I think in this film with I Am Sam , he's portraying someone who is full of retired .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I mean , he definitely committed him . And that other actor I forget his name , but he came out in the green mile . Um , I like I hate to . I think he killed it . Dude , like I hate . I don't know if he won any awards for this .

Speaker 3

I think this movie got a lot of backlash . Actually , no way , yeah the people were not happy .

Speaker 2

Let's see what the people are saying . It's a non-fact-based movie . Is what the people are saying ? Offensive disbelief , the problematics ? I Am , sam , proves that depiction doesn't necessarily equal illumination . So I guess at the time Rotten Tomatoes scored it south of 40% , but it made almost $100 million on a $22 million budget , so it was profitable . And then , yeah , like you said , they referenced it in Tropic Thunder . I mean , I feel like this movie stood the test of time . Now that we've watched we've watched Rain man , we've watched Forrest Gump , we've watched which one's the one with that other ?

Speaker 3

actor . The other guy where his grandma dies . Yeah , the story of Luke .

Speaker 2

Yeah , the story of Luke We've seen . Yeah , I'm trying to see if there's anyone else on here that we have seen , but I think I think that pretty much nails it . I don't remember . I think ben stiller played the one , but it was in the it was a reference to tropic thunder , yeah .

Speaker 2

So I feel like out of all those movies , because I feel like this one stands the test of time , this one and forrest gump , and I'm like what's the problem with this one and forrest gump ? Because I feel like people love to this day . Yeah , love forrest gump . Forrest gump is now bubba gump's food chain . Um , people , if they haven't seen the food , the , the movie they've read , the , if they haven't seen the movie yeah , they've read the book .

Speaker 2

Um , so it's like what is there to criticize of sean penn's performance versus tom hanks performance , when I think that they both committed a hundred percent ? Yeah , I mean , do you feel like there's a difference ? Do you feel like he's .

Speaker 3

The only thing I can think of is the time period . I mean , maybe like , because Forrest Gump is set in the past . It's like I don't know . It's like a past , yeah , it's like , oh well , that's back then , whatever . But like you know , I Am Sam , is modern day , so people are more offended . I don , like you know , I am sam , is modern day , so people are more offended , I don't know . But I think , yeah , I think it's a good movie . I think they both did a good job and I and I think I feel like I am sam has brings up more relevant topics yes , exactly this was a straight up drama versus forrest gump , where it was like a comedy drama .

Speaker 2

Yeah , and they too also brought up a lot of serious things like sex with someone on the spectrum , having a child as well as being on the spectrum fighting in the war , taking care of your mama , type of stuff that they in real life have to experience as well as we do . So I'm not sure what was the whole offense about , but I get what you're saying . Like it was a time period and it was still very much taboo yeah get it .

Speaker 3

Everyone did a good job yeah , I just feel like people .

Speaker 2

I feel like you just look for things to be mad about , um I mean , if everyone , if anyone , wants to step forward and say what exactly was offensive , like I'm all ears about it , because if someone's on the spectrum is gonna to declare what was or wasn't offensive , we have blind spots because we're out of that experience . That makes sense . But I feel like the people that are complaining the most , I'm assuming , are not even on the spectrum , so it's just nitpicking .

Movie Rating and Final Thoughts

Speaker 2

But I think everyone did a good job , even Michelle Pfeiffer , laura .

Speaker 3

Dern , laura Dern , even even michelle pfeiffer yeah , she's laura .

Speaker 3

Laura dern , laura dern , she's , she's great , I think she's cute too , and and I didn't I didn't see the ending coming . Yeah , I thought the ending was nice . I thought so too it was , but , um , I felt like the movie's long right , it's over two hours . Yeah , they focused a lot on the first half of the trial or court stuff and then they don't really go into the second half when Laura Dern comes in , where they go back to court and they figure out the like dual parenting stuff .

Speaker 2

Yeah , it was pretty fast .

Speaker 2

Yeah , it all kind of happened really fast but I don't mind it because , like you , you said it's two hours and 12 minutes long . Whatever you can cut , please cut . Whatever you don't need to say , you can show , and I think that's what they did . Um , one thing that I didn't want to talk did want to talk about as well is I feel like it's a trope at least I noticed it in here and in philadelphia and kind of sort of in rain man , where there's like the person that you have the main character , which is the person on the spectrum , and then you have like the supporting actor who has this like motive . That's like I don't want to help you but I will , yeah , and that's what happened in philadelphia . Um denzel washington's character did not become involved . He initially declined becoming involved , then became involved when he witnessed and felt a type of relatability as far as being discriminated against right .

Speaker 2

Rain man . Tom Cruise only took out Dustin Hoffman's character for the money . So I feel like that one's not exactly the same , but I feel it's kind of the same with Philadelphia . Do you feel like that's a cliche or it's a trope ?

Speaker 3

Yeah , the friendship . You kind of start off begrudging each other and then eventually you're like friends yeah that's a cliche .

Speaker 2

I hate to say that it may be necessary , Because I think the point of those two films this one and Philadelphia is to have you relate and give you a different perspective . Right yeah , and how are you going to show that without having an initial pushback to that ? I don't know .

Speaker 3

I just found it interesting , like like once you see it , you can't .

Speaker 2

You notice it everywhere yeah , that's what I hate about , about my , my critiques . It's like I see the formulas yeah , I see the setups , I see the writings , and I think that's what makes a good film that we see it , we expect it . Um , they say that there's only like 10 original scripts in Hollywood that just keep getting recycled . So you know what's going to happen is just how you tell the story . That even if people know the story , they're going to be entertained .

Speaker 3

I was entertained . Entertained is a word for it . I was captivated , yeah I was .

Speaker 3

I was uh very much entertained in watching it my eyes hurt at the end . Oh my god , I'm all cried out . The bechdel test . Uh , unfortunately , this movie fails , and this is another thing I'm starting to notice . And it's so frustrating because they do have a scene where um , who is it ? Lucy and her foster mom , randy , they're sitting outside , they're painting and they could be having a conversation , but instead it's like a musical overlay and there is no audio . But you could see the two girls or women people . They're talking , but it's just like happy music playing over , so they're not really saying anything and I'm like showing versus the tell yeah , but I'm like that would have right there that that would have passed the test , but they're not talking .

Speaker 3

They could have been talking about ice cream talking about their painting .

Speaker 2

You could be talking about their paintings they could have . Oh , it's a nice day today , like yeah , I was watching and I was like they're almost always talking about sam . Yeah , because it revolves around him , and it's like it makes sense for rita , too , because she's the lawyer . It makes sense for lucy , too , because she misses him . It makes sense for annie because , that's her neighbor and practically stepmom or surrogate mom really .

Speaker 2

Yeah , everyone had an understandable reason to talk about them , but I agree with you , it fails . Huh , yeah , it fails . Alright , everyone . Now it's time for our newest segment , popcorn or Colonel . You know how sometimes we think we're just not the audience for this . Well , we turned it into a metric where we judge the accessibility of the movie .

Speaker 3

Yeah . So we're going to look at the characters in the plot to see how relatable they are to a general audience or to a specific audience . So if we think the movie can relate to a lot of people , it's a popcorn so you could pass it around and share it with the whole family . But if it's for a more specific audience , then it's a kernel . Some people like it , some people spit it back , Okay .

Speaker 2

So our main characters are obviously Sean Penn as Sam . And what would you say ? Do you think it's two or three ? I think it's really Rita and Sam . Yeah , I think it's two or three .

Speaker 3

I think it's really rita and sam yeah , I think it's really rita , because lucy , she doesn't actually have a lot of screen time right it's a lot of talk about her , but yeah and it makes sense because she's a child and kind of school and stuff .

Speaker 2

So as far as the main are the main characters relatable sam and rita , I think so I think so I'm not a parent . But I get what they were saying . Are they attractive ? I mean , michelle Pfeiffer is . I was about to say I have a new white woman crush and it's Michelle . Pfeiffer's .

Speaker 3

She is aging like a fine wine .

Speaker 2

She's looking good . I don't know what she's doing or not doing , but keep sticking to it . I think it's always sunblock and cigarettes , bare minimum , cigarettes , bare minimum . Don't do cigarettes , don't do cigarettes . Do the sunblock , do this okay , do you think ?

Speaker 4

the main characters are funny ? I didn't think so , no this was 100 , not a comedy .

Speaker 2

It's not funny no lightheartedness at any angle any perception that's what the movie needed some comedic relief . It really did , and I was kind kind of hoping that Lucy , being a child , was going to bring some of that but even her best friend , the other kid was so serious and I'm like where is all this child anger coming from ?

Speaker 2

Where's this guy ? Like that seems so unauthentic to me . But whatever Are the main characters , charming , charming , like , charming , like you know , I get stuck with that because I feel like I didn't get cute , fuzzy feelings from Sam . Yeah , I didn't . I have a thing where it's like I like to respect people on the spectrum and the elderly , because I feel like a lot of people they write them off ?

Speaker 2

Yeah , they cutify them and I'm like well , when I'm elderly , I don't want someone to cutify me . I don't know if that's a word . I just made a word , so I'm going to go with no .

Speaker 3

Did you ?

Speaker 2

find Michelle Pfeiffer charming . You know what ? I was upset with her in the beginning . She was playing the real bitch role . She was playing it and I believed it and I feel like she had a really hard time coming around , but I didn't find her charming . Very smart , yeah , but charming I don't know you .

Speaker 3

Yeah , I didn't really like her character in this movie , so I was not charmed by her .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I wasn't . Do they invoke sympathy or empathy ? Hell yeah , I figured they invoked it . They took it , they yep , milked it . Yeah , okay , regarding the movie and the plot , are there stakes , definitely high stakes ? Were the characters in jeopardy ? Yes yes , I would say so is the conflict interesting ?

Speaker 3

Yes .

Speaker 2

Is the topic relevant ? I thought it was because I'm looking at the topic as what makes a good and qualified parent , and I think that that's something that is very much , at least now , openly talked about . Yeah , but I could be wrong .

Speaker 3

You tell me . Well , I agree with you . Yeah , because I was looking at the topic as , yeah , like parenting , like love versus resources kind of thing . So I yeah , so I think the topic is relevant I want to know .

Speaker 2

So the tomato meter is 36 percent . I'm riding tomatoes . The audience score , oh and , and the tomato meter is based also based off of 146 reviews . The audience score is 86 percent out of 250 000 ratings . What do you rate this one ?

Speaker 3

I would give this a 9 out of 10 . What's it missing ? It's um , it's too long . I think , yeah , it's too long . It's missing the . The lighting was distracting . The coloring , the lighting um , I think that's it . Those are my only two problems .

Speaker 2

I get that you know what I ? I hate that I rate these films a 10 out of 10 , but I'm also like would I watch it again ? It's asking me , what do I want ? To cry again ?

Speaker 3

That's true , that's what I'm .

Speaker 2

That's what I have to consider , so I'm switching . I do give it a 10 out of 10 . Because the writing is there , the acting is there , tearjerker for sure . I feel like I also did not enjoy the lighting . But I understand the lighting , but I understand it's artistic purpose and I give it a pass because I wasn't nauseated , because sometimes some scenes like they're just nauseating me um , and I hate that they got so much backlash for it , but he killed it , I feel like yeah , I don't .

Speaker 2

I feel like it sends the test of time . I feel like everyone should watch this film . Dare I say this versus ph ? In regards to like this whole discrimination aspect , I thought it was the bomb .

Speaker 3

There was a funny scene where she rolls up to the he's like I work on the Starbucks of corner of this and this and there's like four Starbucks on every corner and I was just like oh , that's funny .

Speaker 2

when I seen that , I was like they have to be in LA . They have to be in LA where they have to be in LA , where else could they be ? I know they're like in Santa Monica or somewhere .

Speaker 3

Oh , that was the other thing too . I'm like this guy is working and he affords an apartment . That's what took me out of the movie . Yeah , I was like no way .

Speaker 2

When I seen the jumper inside of that apartment I was like what , what Dude ? When we have jumpers with my cousins , they're like bouncing out of those mesh windows . Yeah , like there's just no way . But it made sense to the story in the plot .

Speaker 2

I was like only a retarded guy would put a jumper inside the house . You know what ? I came to that conclusion as well Because I was like who would do that ? And then I was like he would do that , he would do that . And I'm like , how did that even fit ? And then I'm like , did they even have a yard ? And me too , I was like , how did he afford to be here ? Is rita helping him more ?

Speaker 3

than what she's helping .

Speaker 2

I thought rita , not rita . Um any , any , my bad any . I thought any was gonna be more of a bitch . I didn't think she was gonna pull up . I was very surprised that she did . I was very happy that they pulled up another um person who was raised by a person on the spectrum .

Speaker 3

Yeah , I thought that was very classic so our next movie is interview with the vampire

Interview with the Vampire Overview

Speaker 3

born as an 18th century lord . Next movie is Interview with the Vampire Born as an 18th century lord . Louis is now a vampire , telling his story to an eager biographer , suicidal after the death of his family . He meets Lestat , a vampire who persuades him to choose immortality over death and become his companion . Eventually , gentle louis resolves to leave his violent maker , but lestat guilts him into staying by turning a young girl whose addition to their family breeds even more conflict this movie is rated r .

Speaker 2

It's considered a horror drama and a romance . It's directed by neil jordan , who also wrote and directed the Crying Game . I don't know if you've heard of that one .

Speaker 3

That's the one with the transgender .

Speaker 2

I think it is . I haven't seen it but I've heard of it . Yeah , I haven't seen it either , but I read the synopsis about it . It's kind of like a suspense mystery kind of a thing . So I was interested , so I'm down to watch it , kind of a thing . So I was interested , so I'm down to watch it . All this other stuff I haven't heard of the Butcher Boy In Dreams , the Last September , the End of the Affair , the Good Thief Intermission , the Actors Breakfast on Pluto , the Brave One .

Speaker 3

I know I haven't heard of any of those . Me neither .

Speaker 2

It's writers , of course , and Rice , y'all know her Queen of the Damned . It was released in theaters November 1994 . So long ago , box office gross in the USA was $104.7 million and of course , y'all already know this movie is two hours long . It stars , of course , you already know this movie is two hours long . It stars , of course , brad Pitt as Louis , tom Cruise as Lestat , kristen Dunst as Claudia and Antonio Banderas as Armand .

Speaker 3

Fun fact Anne Rice did not like the casting of Tom Cruise and he found out and he was like'm gonna prove her wrong and do you think do you think he did ?

Speaker 2

I think so . Do you know if she approved at the end ? Oh , I don't know that . Do you know she who ? She had someone in mind . I don't , I don't know , I just know that she , she didn't want Tom Cruise , you know um ,

Casting and Character Performances

Speaker 2

I came around to tom cruise because , uh , my mom was like a tom cruise fan and I was like , but he kills .

Speaker 4

They all kill it in this movie , dude , yeah every single motherfucker here .

Speaker 2

I've played a vampire on stage before . It's not the same as in film , I'm sure , but the commitment of pretending to be something unnatural , un , unhuman is a lot to do . But speaking of the cast , let's talk about Brad Pitt . He's a hottie . In here too , he's hot . I'm like you know what . I didn't think he was that hot here . I think it's more how sentimental he is here that probably brings me around . I think the problem with vampire movies is the makeup . Always is always the makeup I was digging the pale .

Speaker 2

Look , I get it , maybe , maybe emo rocker . All he needed was the eyeliner . Yeah , he just needed me . You know what ?

Speaker 3

no lie , some skinny jeans and some eyeliner , I probably would have come around , I was into it . Uh , the long hair , the , the vampire contact lenses yeah , they weren't that bad , I was into it . And then maybe they keep talking like with their mouth , like yeah , yeah , yeah , I was like , okay , I was more into tom cruise .

Speaker 2

Uh , at the end with this , I was like this look is suiting tom cruise . I don't know how it is , he should be blonde . He should always be blonde . But something that I notice is that I like villainous characters like I like protagonists , like I enjoy them when they're executed well when they have good motives .

Speaker 2

I feel like the problem when you play a um , not a protagonist I'm An antagonist Is not being too cartoony . Like you know , when people take on the Joker , they just want to put everything and their mama into this performance and it's like are they going to sell it ? Are they not going to sell it ? Like when to laugh , when not to laugh , like when to be serious , when not to be serious , and he kills it and I think that's what made me attracted to him . Um , in addition to the makeup look , I feel like it very much suited him compared to brad pitt . I like brad pitt more in mr and mrs smith , but I'm mexican and I don't know if that buzz cut was doing it for me .

Speaker 3

Any , any movie he's in , he's just a hottie and I I was just like watching it and I was just like what must it be like to go through life and you're this hot and everybody wants you , and like he could do , he could be the worst actor in the world but get through ? Yeah , but he's just so like good looking and then when he was turning into a vampire , like he was dying , he was doing the hair flips I'm telling you , gotta put you , gotta put your pussy in that performance he put his whole pussy in it and he was not his face .

Speaker 3

You could see it . The whole , not one strand of hair , got caught up in his face . He knew how to flip that hair . He knows what he's doing .

Speaker 2

Break your neck yeah , he knows what he's doing with that neck , but um , yeah , he's a cutie he is . I think that they did well with the casting , but I understand Anne Rice as a person that wanted to get the it's her vision right . You write it , it's your vision . It could have been gayer . Oh my god , it could have been so gayer . Obviously . Do we see a chemistry between Louise and Lestat ? Yeah , I don't know If anybody says no , you're .

Speaker 3

I don't know what movie you're watching . Well , obviously they're a family , right ? Claudia is their daughter . They're two men together . Raising a daughter Like Raising a daughter .

Speaker 2

Like hello , you're in a relationship , whether you like it or not . Yeah , because what's happening ?

Speaker 3

You're in a committed relationship and then people say about vampires that they live so long that they get bored of having sex with you . Know the ? Opposite , same sex , yeah the opposite . So then they're like okay , let's go gay now , because I'm bored of this . Right , try that anal Top and bottom . Right , try that anal , top and bottom , whatever you're into . But um , but yeah , I feel like in the movie .

Speaker 2

They're like dancing around this topic . I think so too . Is there any particular scenes that you feel should have just done it kissed , fucked , touched anything , because I got one , but I want to know yours .

Speaker 3

I think , when he's trying to convince louis to , um , they're in like in a hotel room and they have like prostitutes or some something , yeah , and he's trying to convince him to kill the girl and like whatever the french yeah , yeah , he bites the titty , yeah , bloody titty I feel like that would have been like how do you convince someone to do something like , hey , I'll have sex with you if you do this thing like ?

Speaker 3

I think that would have been like how do you convince someone to do something like , hey , I'll have sex with you if you do this thing Like ? I think that would have been the moment to like bust your dick out .

Speaker 2

Yeah , you want to say this girl suck this cock right now .

Speaker 3

Yeah , yeah , or like I'll let her live if you do me . Yeah , I was like it could have been so gay .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I think for me I was the gay , yeah , I think for me , I , I was . The tension was so high for the san luis I felt like any point would have been fine , any point like if one was in the like . After the coffin one comes to the other coffin you know what I mean coffin love I don't fucking know , but with armand like when like when louise goes and he's talking to armand and he's touching

Vampire Lore and Relationships

Speaker 2

his face .

Speaker 2

I thought he was going to kiss . I know I thought so too and I was like you're practically there , anyone's that close to my face is getting kissed . Yeah , you know , that's all I got to do . That's all you got to do . Bitch this whole time . Yeah , just touch my face , bring it closer . Tell me this now . How did they not like ? I'm still like . How did they ?

Speaker 3

did they and they just cut it . I know that's what I was thinking . I was like they probably did a take where they did kiss and then the directors were like , no , we're not gonna use that one it would have made so much and I wrote down louise should have kissed and fucked our mom .

Speaker 2

At minimum , at minimum . At the minimum , someone should have been having gay sex around here because then that would have made the betrayal so much better yeah , so much more rich and that was the whole thing . Then he goes back to the whatever another hotel room and claudia's like oh , armand wants you , like , like , yeah , everyone wants him , yes I want him , everyone does and I think it's either his looks or his sympathetic , caring nature that is bringing fucking thecking the bitches around .

Speaker 3

Well , I thought they had an interesting conversation with Armand where Armand tells him that the vampires live so long and the world changes so much that a lot of them they can't take it and they just like I don't know if he said it , but he kind of but the message I got was that they kill themselves .

Speaker 2

That's what I thought too yeah , like that's the only solution . But I think they kind of like never talk about how to kill another vampire . Yeah , because I feel like in other films they talk about how to kill the vampire . Yeah , no , they try to , right , because Claudia was trying . Well , when she tried to kill , she tried to kill Lestat , she tried to kill Lestat yeah , and she said you don't drink from the dead , and that's what . She did .

Speaker 3

But then even Lestat , after he drank from those people he was like , oh , just put me in my coffin , so like he wasn't going to die .

Speaker 2

Yeah , like almost he knew .

Speaker 3

Like that's not what it takes .

Speaker 2

And also and also , I feel like maybe he would have died . But then when they reunite with him and he's at the piano which I thought that was an amazing scene I am like , with the wind and those curtains got the pussy throbbing and I'm like I think it's the reptile-y skin . Is that what you're into ? It's just the intensity with the piano music and he's back , baby .

Speaker 3

I know you're into the Rumpelstilts , into it's just the intensity with the piano music and he's back , baby , he's back . I know you're , I know you're into rumple steel skin .

Speaker 2

It's the the , it's the , the skin I know , I think it's just the villainous for joe . Yeah , uh , maybe with my eyes closed , I don't know and then he called her a naughty girl the eroticism here and we know she's a kid and if somehow it gets a pass , because they're , but mentally yeah yeah , they're unhuman , she's I think they mentally developed .

Speaker 2

Yeah , they said like 30 years had gone by right , yeah , um , I don't know girl , but yeah I think . Oh , okay . So he said that he he survived off of drinking the blood from the reptiles .

Speaker 3

Yeah , the crocodiles yeah .

Speaker 2

And all of that , like anything that would come by , so it had me feeling like maybe he would have died . Maybe , if he I'm assuming it wouldn't be like us you kill us and maybe , depending on the injury , have little life left , like you'll be dying . Yeah .

Speaker 2

Depending what type of injury , sooner or later death . So I think , if maybe he was burned , maybe he would have been able to die . He just had a little bit of life , just enough life left in him to survive . But I think it makes sense to kill a vampire that way . Yeah , because I think , from what we know from the lores , the only way to kill them is burning them , beheading them . The stake in the heart , the stake in the heart . This concept of drinking dead blood was new to me , was it for you .

Speaker 3

Yeah , this was new to me .

Speaker 2

But I thought it was creative .

Speaker 3

I thought it was very creative . That's what I was going to ask you about the lore of the . So in this world , the stake in the heart doesn't work , garlic doesn't work . And then I think he even says that dracula was not a real vampire oh , that makes sense as to why , when they're all asking who's the one ?

Speaker 2

that made all of them yeah because I feel like if they're making a dracula movie , that's where they're going towards . Yeah , right , compared to this one , that's not a dracula story at all .

Speaker 3

So in this world of an rice , um , they have to stay out of the sunlight and then they heal , like when she claudia cuts all her hair off , and then it just like grows back . And then she like um hits lestat in the face , it cuts him , and then he just like it just heals like nothing , crazy yeah . And then all the vampires have special powers . I was just going to say that right now .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I mean it's . I feel what was okay . Lestat can read minds . Louise , do you recall what his special power ? I think it showed that he didn't .

Speaker 3

Yeah , he didn't seem to have one . I think it showed that he didn't . Yeah , he didn't seem to have one .

Speaker 4

And then they said Claudia was too young so she wouldn't get one .

Speaker 2

What a shitty ass run .

Speaker 3

Yeah , no wonder she was that mad , I know . And then that other vampire guy , he was like A wall walker , yeah , gravity , or whatever .

Speaker 2

Levitation , levitation , yeah , which I thought all of them could levitate or fly , I thought , in traditional well , I think .

Speaker 3

I think the stat flew at one point .

Speaker 2

He flew like across the table yeah , oh yeah , you're right , I thought that was just a fucking vampire leap but you , you bring up a good point . What about armand ? Do you remember if he has ?

Speaker 3

armand .

Speaker 2

I think he could read minds too oh yeah , him , him and the fucking guy that can levitate . Yeah , the guy . What's his name ? Santiago ? Yeah , damn , this bitch got two powers .

Speaker 3

I'm jealous right now oh , and then they said the older you are as a vampire , the more powerful you are that may .

Speaker 2

Maybe they can develop more senses , who knows ? Yeah , I found that I like I like learning about that in there . It's , it's a great way to create your own vampire story . Yeah , you know , to give them powers , not powers , those circumstances , what kills them . I thought it was really creative and original . Mm , hmm do you have a standout scene ? I love it when people fight , very entertaining it is entertaining .

Speaker 3

So my standout scene was when , um , it's when the stock gives claudia like a doll and she was . She was like , oh , like I don't want dolls anymore . And he was like , okay , throw it away . She's like I will throw them away and she started . She was waiting and she starts throwing all the dolls away and there's a dead body in her bed and then they start . That's when it all popped off from there and then she's trying to like , ask them , like who did this to me and you made me this way ? And she's like angry and screaming , screaming , yeah , that was my send-out scene too .

Speaker 2

That was good . She is does a kick-ass job in this movie , dude . She kicks at when she transforms and she's like choking . I'm like I'm buying it . She's really choking like you know when she's angry . I believe her when she tries to like seduce that mom on the fucking that lady at the bench so she could feed on her , I bought it .

Speaker 3

Um , she definitely knows how to persuade , even when she's with lestat and louise and I even felt like the way like her word pronunciation , like so mature , yeah , she's like speaking . I like , I was like she's like a whatever victorian , you buy it .

Speaker 2

Yeah , it's so good , she kicks ass , she , she kicks us . So I know that . You know , we both know that she had the best scenes up in here she did .

Speaker 3

Yeah , totally , because there was the . There was an earlier scene on the plantation where uh lestat and uh louis , louis sets his house on fire , and then lestat comes in and he's like they're yelling at each other . But I was like it's okay

Standout Scenes and Character Analysis

Speaker 3

and so , and then claudia comes in and I'm like , oh , like , here we go yeah , she definitely .

Speaker 2

I feel like she emptied up a bit and I don't know if it's because she's a woman , she's a girl or because she's a child in this like perception Right . Yeah .

Speaker 2

She's in a child's body , so I couldn't tell if it was one or the other . But I think that because of her they also kind of like raise their aggression because because she tried to kill louise and so now he's like it's on , like it's fair game . Yeah , I feel like he became a little bit more aggressive and , um , let's start , not so much like I feel it makes sense that he is in so much grief that he's not as aggressive , but I feel like she had . I feel like everyone had good character development , like all of the main actors .

Speaker 2

They all had good motives , they all had their own background reasoning , but when it comes to her and I think that's why they had she has the best scenes because hers were so rich in her motives . You know she has this whole thing about and it makes sense . You're a vampire . You don't know how you got there . You genuinely want to know the origins of yourself and your new what is it lineage that you're a part of now ? Yeah , compared to listat , who's like whatever whatever louise says I'm just gonna go yeah with . And it made like everything she did just made sense .

Speaker 3

It made sense it was giving this missing puzzle piece of like drama yeah , and also the the added like she'll never grow up , she'll never have a woman's body .

Speaker 2

I think she she reacted appropriately yeah because I think every little girl , yeah , it's like when are my boobs ?

Speaker 3

coming in . Yes , the question of my life when did your boobs ? Come in never I'm still waiting .

Speaker 2

Shut up . You know they have still waiting . You know they have . I can't remember when my boobs came in , but I do remember being this tall in the fifth grade my .

Speaker 3

They definitely came in after high school , because when I was in high school I didn't even weigh 100 pounds oh , that's right you've .

Speaker 2

So you've always had like a slender , slender yeah , body , I get that two backs .

Speaker 3

They called me two back , brianna who is they ?

Speaker 2

who is they ? I will fight you for my friend . I'll fight you . You won't make me mad say that better not say that . Um , I'm gonna tickle you every time you say that I won't touch your face'm gonna take you no , it's gonna turn into a tickle make out . This is what lesbian porn is made of .

Speaker 3

I'm like well , if this movie's not gonna be gay .

Speaker 2

Maybe we should be . This is why we need to watch the movies together to get the fulfillment that it didn't didn't provide . But yeah , I did . And you know what my my last two cents is that I didn't feel bad for louis . No , not Louis . You missed that no yeah , louis , louis , because he was a plantation owner .

Speaker 3

Oh , that's what I was going to say , that's what Abraham Lincoln , vampire Hunter , that's what the plantation owners are eating the slaves .

Speaker 2

Damn , that makes sense . Luminati shit . There you go .

Speaker 3

I was watching it and I'm like we're just going to skip over , yeah All this .

Speaker 2

I was like fuck him and his life . Like I couldn't care less . Fuck you and your life . Whatever you lost your parents , Like you lost your wife and child , these people are fighting for their lives and you're feeding on them . Fuck you feeding on them . Fuck you . He freed them at the end . That's what I was gonna say . You know he came around , but I feel like reparations are appropriate in this scenario .

Speaker 3

That would be funny if he would attract , like his slaves , children . Imagine like a hundred years later and he's just like hey , I hate your mom yeah , I thought he was definitely gonna fuck um .

Speaker 2

What do you call it ? The , the , the house slave ? Oh , la morenita she's really famous sandy , sandy newton she looked familiar .

Speaker 3

Where's she from ?

Speaker 2

she's come out in one of the mission impossible movies . She also comes out in norbit , as oh , I can't remember if you do or don't like norbit I know it's one of them . Yeah , really strongly . I was like I know it's one of them really strongly . Either you really like it or you really don't like it but yeah , I know , okay , I know who you're talking about .

Speaker 3

Yeah , she's a cutie .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I thought he was for sure gonna fuck her . But this comes back to like when we um reviewed vampire movies last year , the symbolism of it being sex . Yeah , so you got the titty biting , you got the wrist biting all things that people do , anyway your , your heart is in , is under your titties .

Speaker 3

Yep , yep , you're . They're biting necks they're . And they kept talking with their mouths like open so you could see their teeth , their fangs and their like tongues .

Speaker 2

Yeah , yeah , it was . I thought it was funny when he was eating the poodles . Oh yeah , and I know that lestat makes fun of louis up and down , because louis just has this sensitive he's sensitive and he has this connection so much to being human where , where lestat has accepted that things have changed , he is no longer human , he accepts that he is now you know , in his interpretation a monster . And louis just can't come to that acceptance like he wanted to die , but instead he got another , another type of life but he does , he becomes the , he kills all those vampires .

Speaker 3

at the end , oh yeah , so he gets . So he gets that fulfillment , so yeah , so he's like I'm going to . He didn't want to be the killer , but then he was the killer .

Speaker 2

Well , I just feel like he was backed up into a corner now . Yeah , like he doesn't know what's going on with the stat Claudia and the woman that she selected , which I thought that was a great like detail to the film Mm-hmm . To the film yeah , she wants to have a family or a companion or something new . She selects someone who also lost their daughter and it's kind of uncomfortable because she's kind of consenting to be the daughter for the rest of her life , type of a thing .

Speaker 3

I was like is it sexual ? You're going to be her daughter , but mentally she's an adult . How is that going to go ?

Speaker 2

it , or is it just for the front , because that's what they need right they need a front , uh-huh . So it's like companionship for the front . You know , you guys can um plot together , grub together , orgies together , she probably just wanted a homegirl , yeah , another female someone which I get , that you know you've got these two fools that won't fuck and the tension's so high and they're obviously not gonna fuck her , you know . So she's just like we need . We need something I need somebody , somebody , anybody sos but I also um .

Speaker 3

I liked all the music , the piano playing , the classical music , so erotic the renaissance well , I don't know a lot about music but I wonder , like people who do know music , if there's like another , like added layer to the story of like whatever they're playing that's a good question .

Speaker 2

Let us know in the comments y'all there's anybody in there that's interested in music like that

Rating and Final Thoughts

Speaker 2

? Because I thought it fit perfectly .

Speaker 3

I was like yeah , I really I was into it , but I was just like I wonder if there's like a , a deeper meaning or I don't know all right , everyone .

Speaker 2

Now it's time for our newest segment popcorn or kernel is this a popcorn or a kernel ?

Speaker 3

let's see .

Speaker 2

So I think that there's three main characters here , but do you think it's two ? I think it's three . So we got louise , stat and claudia , the main characters . Are they relatable ? I wanted to say yes , but I couldn't really find anything , could you ?

Speaker 3

no , I think this is definitely a fantasy . Yeah , are they attractive ? Just one one very much so , I think , but at the together together . Yes , but I think at the time tom cruise was like the the heartthrob , or he was the guy yeah , I think so too , are they funny ? No , I don't think so either charming yesming . Yes , they're very charming .

Speaker 2

Do they invoke sympathy or empathy ? I mean , I think two out of three characters did .

Speaker 3

I think Louise and Claudia did .

Speaker 2

Are there stakes ? Yes , I thought so . What are the stakes ? Well , I think it was . It became like once Claudia and Lestat tried to murder Louise . I feel like from then on , it was like a survival .

Speaker 3

Yeah , okay , yeah , I see that .

Speaker 2

And that's kind of like what the story became . Yeah . So I thought that they at least were at stake . And then , well are the characters in . Jeopardy ? Yeah , I thought so , because after that they were like all killing each other . Is the conflict interesting ?

Speaker 3

I thought so . I think it's interesting .

Speaker 2

Is the topic relevant ?

Speaker 3

What is the topic ? Sex ? I don't know .

Speaker 2

Sex Vampires ? I don't know .

Speaker 3

That's what I was kind of thinking about . What's the message of the movie ? What are we supposed to take away ? I don't know . I couldn't figure it out .

Speaker 2

It's looking like a tie right now . A tie it's on the fence , it's on the fence , it's , it's , it's , it's like at the bottom of the popcorn bag . You got a little bit . You got some kernels with half half a popcorn on it . I could see that I think it it's . I think it's a kernel , but it's so entertaining I'm .

Speaker 3

Maybe I'm the audience for it , I think . And then the costumes . I love the costumes . It looks so good .

Speaker 2

It was a good time piece I can't lie everything the settings , the scenes because I feel like sometimes when they try to do um time pieces , time pieces , sometimes it looks a little like cheesy or a little like not executed well huh , yeah , it's probably like the stage design maybe your costumes , but this looked really good yeah , the costumes were on point , the staging was good , the music was good , so I agree and I I think even the special effects are still good . I feel like everybody watches this movie when it comes on . I don't know not one person that hasn't seen this movie at least once . Yeah , me neither . And I don't know anybody that doesn't like this movie . Yeah . Even if they haven't watched it in forever .

Speaker 3

They're like oh , so the vector test lay it on us , so this movie too , no there's the scene where claudia goes into like a store or a shop or whatever , and she's talking to the woman that she chooses to be her companion , but again they're not saying anything and it's just like a music overlay of the scene .

Speaker 2

I thought for sure , the scene where she lures the fat lady at the bench was for sure going to make it .

Speaker 3

That was actually pretty cool , because Lestat is in the background , god damn you Because he's like training her to be a hunter , right , right , so he's like watching .

Speaker 2

It's actually a pretty cool shot , it is . That's why I thought it was gonna make it , but it was not gonna make it because he's in the shot because he's in the shot . Yeah , fucking the stat man yeah fucking ruining shit , but that's like he's everyone's favorite , his favorite villain , yeah , okay . So on the tomato meter , out of 59 reviews , this gets a 64% . The audience score of over 250,000 reviews is 86% . What do you rate this movie ?

Speaker 3

I give it a 10 out of 10 . Yeah , you love it . I love this movie . It's good what ?

Speaker 2

do you give it ? I give this an 8 out of 10 , just because it's so long .

Speaker 3

It is long long .

Speaker 2

It is terribly long and that's the thing with with um two hour movies . If I'm gonna sit down and watch this , I better be entertained through and through , and I think it was just so long . I think it was the beginning portion , even though I know that it made sense , but like , once it hit , um , I can't . I can't even think of like what , what point ? I think maybe for me it was like claudia . Once they got claudia , I feel like it really thickened and simmered um . But yeah , it's a good movie . I'll watch it again . I'm happy that it's like streaming . Yeah , writing , acting and directing good .

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