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Rockstar to Rapper: When Musicians Step into Film
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Sometimes the most fascinating time capsules are the ones we discover unexpectedly. In this recovered episode from our archives, we journey back to the early 2000s with two films that capture musicians crossing over into acting with surprising success.
Mark Wahlberg's journey from Marky Mark to actor finds perfect resonance in "Rock Star" (2001), where he plays a tribute band singer who gets the ultimate fantasy—joining the very band he worships. What begins as a dream quickly reveals the hollow nature of fame when it's built on someone else's creative vision. Jennifer Aniston delivers a grounded performance as the girlfriend who refuses to lose herself in the sex, drugs, and rock'n'roll lifestyle, creating the emotional anchor the film needs. Despite being categorized as a drama, we discover why this film should be appreciated as the comedy it truly is—full of authentic moments about cover bands, rivalries, and the circular nature of the music industry.
Eminem's acting debut in "8 Mile" (2002) shows how powerful authenticity can be when a musician plays a version of themselves. The gritty portrayal of Detroit's rap battle scene, poverty, and the struggle for artistic recognition creates a world that feels lived-in rather than performed. We explore how the film captures the complex dynamics between friends who support yet sometimes undermine each other, and how Jimmy's journey to overcome stage fright parallels the courage needed to pursue any creative dream.
Both films ultimately ask the same question: what does it mean to find your authentic voice? Whether it's a cover band singer realizing he needs to write his own songs or a rapper turning his vulnerabilities into strengths during a battle, these stories resonate because they're about more than music—they're about the universal struggle to be truly heard.
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Welcome to Season 2
Speaker 1Welcome to Season 2 of the Double Feature Podcast . Today we're opening up the time capsule . We'll be enjoying one of our unreleased episodes from a few years ago . Think of it as a conversation frozen in time . Buckle up and get ready to time travel in three , two , one today's topic is artists try acting , and we will be reviewing rockstar and eight
Reviewing Rock Star with Mark Wahlberg
Speaker 1mile .
Speaker 3Starting off with rockstar , a wannabe rockstar who fronts a pennsylvania tribute band is devastated when they kick him out of the group . Things begin to look up for Izzy when he is asked to join Steel Dragon , the heavy metal rockers he has been imitating for so long . This film is loose basically on a true story of the band Judas Priest . Oh , I didn't know that . I didn't know that either .
Speaker 2So this movie is rated R . It's considered a drama musical . I thought it should be categorized as a comedy . It's directed by Stephen Herrick , who also wrote I'm sorry , directed Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's Dead . I like that one . The Mighty Ducks , the Three Musketeers 1993 . 101 Dalmatians , 96 , I think that's the one I'm going to include after this . He went on to direct man of the House . I think that's the one with Tommy Lee Jones .
Speaker 3I also see it with Queen Latifah .
Speaker 2No , bring Down the House almost so I was like this is a very interesting repertoire . Yeah , quick fact , the credits I read is . So I was like this is a very interesting repertoire . Yeah , quick fact , the credits I read is executively produced by George Clooney . That threw me off . Okay , you got two writers Callie Corey , I believe it's pronounced . They also wrote Thelma and Louise . They also wrote , I'm sorry , directed Divine Secrets of the Yaya Sisterhood . I didn't see't see that . I did not see that movie . And also directed mad money . I think that one is with queen latifah . Yeah , you have another uh writer named john stockwell and he went on to direct crazy beautiful . That one's the one with kirsten dunst . Yeah , I fuck up the kirsten christens fuck up .
Speaker 2One's the one with Kirsten . Kirsten Dunst , yeah , I fuck up the Kirsten Christens . Fuck up , that's the English names I fuck up every time . Blue Crush , oh , the surfer movie , mm-hmm Into the Blue . I don't remember that one , I don't know . This one I highlighted because I thought it was funny Seal , team 6 .
Speaker 2The raid on Osama Bin Laden , and that gave me an idea of who this guy is . Okay , and I've seen the cover of it . It's a real movie . This movie released September 2001 . So I think this movie was definitely outshined by 9-11 event . Oh , yeah , making sense . It was around your birthday . No , yeah , september 10 . There you go .
Speaker 2Box office gross USA is 17 million and it's one hour and 46 minutes long . So , um , this movie has a lot going on , you know . Just a little bit .
Speaker 2I did a little bit of backstory on on mark walberg . I forgot to mention that , so bear with me . This is according to fox news . Oh , okay , um , if you didn't know , mark wahlberg was in a band called marky mark and the funky bunch . Um , they're a hip-hop group that started in 91 . The song good vibrations is the one that put the band on the map . Yeah , and if you watch this film , you know it plays at the fucking end of the film , which I thought like this is a weird , like I thought it was funny . I thought it was funny too , but I was like it doesn't match . Only if you know yeah , if you know the connection , it makes sense , but like it didn't match and they separated in 1983 . So after he did acting , he became a Calvin Klein model , which I think , think I mean he's a good looking dude yeah , I can see that um , I'm sorry , before he became an actor .
Speaker 2So he was an artist , did the modeling gig and then he his first film was renaissance men . So I thought that was interesting because I didn't know that .
Speaker 2I guess I kind of knew all of those things , I just didn't know the order that they were in I thought that he was a model first , and then he's a white boy that wanted to be in a band , but apparently no , he was always a white man that was in a hip-hop band . So I was like , all right . So this , this movie has bands all throughout . You got two , two main bands , the cast oh I'm sorry , the cast . So you got mark walberg playing chris , who later becomes izzy . You got jennifer aniston , uh , playing emily . You got um just playing dominic . Oh , my bad , I forgot about his last name dominic wait who's the kirk hold on ?
Speaker 2the character's name is kirk . Oh , dominic west . I got it , dominic west . He plays . Uh , kirk cuddy , you got a timothy olfent I have .
Speaker 3Oh yeah , there's two timothys . Oh , you're right . Huh , timothy spall . He's from , uh , harry potter , you're right he plays mats and timothy olfent is the hot one plays rob always hot , yeah , yeah .
Speaker 2I didn't like him in that other movie that we watched , the one where he has like brain . He was in an accident , oh this is where I leave you .
Speaker 3He was hot , you didn't think he was hot .
Speaker 2I didn't think he was that hot . He also came out in Hitman when he was bald . He didn't pull off the bald . Look , I haven't seen it , don't watch . But he's a hottie .
Speaker 3He's hot here .
Speaker 2you know me long hair , we got oh , dogmara dominic , I've never , I've never seen her , ever again me neither respect dogmara . Yeah . And then you have um jason fleming playing bobby beers , and he's the lead singer of the band steel Steel Dragon . Yeah .
Speaker 1Steel Dragon . They're replacing .
Speaker 2Good catch . Thank you for catching that . So you got two bands here and then you got the main band right . What are they called again ? Steel Dragon , steel Dragon . And then you have people that do cover bands . Well , they talk about it . There's a cover band , a tribute band and a tribute band . I didn't know there were two separate things .
Speaker 3I think that's the joke .
Speaker 2They're the same thing , it had me thinking like , oh shit , so famous or infamous all of these bands were going through it . Did you feel anything about that at all ?
Speaker 3well , I like cover bands you do ?
Speaker 1yeah , I really do .
Speaker 3I'll go to the swap
Partying, Cover Bands, and Rockstar Life
Speaker 3meet or the fair or wherever , because I really like seeing cover bands and I do , I really do . I'll go to the swap me or the the fair or wherever , because I really like seeing cover bands and I think it's cheaper than paying the real price . The song it's the same songs , it's just as good and then it's less crowded I would have never .
Speaker 2I never even thought about going to cover bands until you said that you started going to them and I was like I should start doing that . It's fun there's . And I told myself there's only one person I would see . Well , actually there's a few people I would still pay to see , which would be miley cyrus . We want to see pink . Yes , pink .
Speaker 3I would be willing to pay to see and I'm glad she's on that little swingy thingy so that way , no matter where we are , we could see her a little bit better and I think people still like yeah , they used to have fans as a tribute band or cover band or whatever . Because when , when my husband and I went to go see iron maiden and we were waiting in line for a t-shirt , the woman in front of us in line she was in the iron maidens cover band and people were coming up to her and being like , oh , can I take a picture with you ? And oh , so I'm like you can still do it .
Speaker 2There you go so I I found it funny how , like his band you know there's other cover bands and they're having the beef , so I'm like this movie's fucking funny .
Speaker 3Yeah , like when they started fighting the rival covers and then each of their person was fighting the person . That's the thing that got me .
Speaker 2I was like this is hilarious , right , this is very rick and morty ish right alternative universe yeah , it was funny . And then when he ends up getting in the being in the real band , I keep forgetting the name steel dragon dragon , I want to say silver dragon . When he gets into steel dragon and they're doing the same thing to him what they did to him in the old , yeah , it was like what a full circle moment . So I thought it was funny I think it's funny . Yeah , I think it's very underrated as a comedy .
Speaker 3I thought it was funny , but and then I liked a lot of . I was seeing a lot of influence in this steel fake steel dragon band . I was getting it's kind of some motley crew , of course . And then Aerosmith , because he had the little scarf on his microphone and I was feeling Iron Maiden , yeah .
Speaker 2So I was like okay , and then Someone put in the work , yeah , and I was like , okay , the work for the vibe right .
Speaker 3And I thought the music was good too and I'm like is this a real band ?
Speaker 2I was like I'm digging these songs , it's working . It's working , yeah , but there was a lot of like partying going on .
Speaker 3There was like an emphasis which I mean it's the lifestyle right , that was the thing of the 80s like , was it sex , love and sex ?
Speaker 2drugs , rock and roll , there you go . So when does partying get boring ?
Speaker 3yeah , I feel like it gets boring real quick . I think so too . I was , I think by the time I was 25 . Yeah , I was over it . Yeah , it's a . It's the same thing . I think so too . I was , I think by the time I was 25 .
Speaker 2Yeah , I was over it . Yeah , it's a . It's the same thing . I think it's a . You know , I think it's just a milestone you go through . You know , I think I reached mine after high school . I was like I don't think I'm done , because once I got to college it just reached a whole new level that I wasn't , that I was not comfortable with .
Speaker 3Dude , everyone's on drugs in college . Yeah , it's insane .
Speaker 2So I was like you know , not to say that anyone should or shouldn't , not to put the blame on anyone , but it's like you know what happens at those places and I'm like A possibility that can happen there and I was just terrified I didn't realize it until I got older that I was like that . I didn't realize it until I got older , that I was like that's the reason why I didn't go . And it's kind of like unsafe for everyone , because if everyone's getting shit-faced drunk , anything could happen . Someone falls and hurts themselves , like you swear . People are going to call yeah , no one's calling .
Speaker 2Everyone's getting shit-faced , like any type of safety I feel like is compromised . But I agree , I think it gets old quick . I'm like just reach the milestone and then get over it when it's done . I don't get people that party on the rest of their life , yeah , but you see , Tommy . Lee . What is it , tommy Lee , right now ?
Speaker 3oh my god , yeah .
Speaker 2Ozzy , ozzy , oh my god , yeah , and I you know if , if Ozzy was alert and orientated all there , I would love to ask him was it all worth it ? Yeah because when I found out like what was it five years ago ? That he was still having an affair , I'm like who is out here looking at ozzy ? And ozzy still got game ? Oh my gosh , it had to be financial .
Speaker 3It had to be a financial scheme , that's all I'm saying yeah , and then when I was drinking more and the people I was hanging out with , they would drink friday , saturday and then sunday morning at like brunch or whatever . Oh , I know , and I was just like this is a lot .
Speaker 2It is , and you know , I'm just like that and it doesn't even taste good . That's one thing I told my boyfriend . I was like it doesn't even taste good , but some of them , some of them are pretty juicy . Um , right now the white claws are pretty tasty , um , but beer I just can't get into anyway , and I feel like that was the most affordable . Yeah , it's cheap , yeah , the most affordable thing , and it's kind of like I don't even taste good . I'm not that desperate for a good time . This is just me , though . Um , what do you think is mark walberg's best acting moment ? Is there one ?
Speaker 3is there one I do . I think there was when , when he joins the band and they're taking photos together and he can't stop smiling and then they're like come on , like like look tough , or whatever , and then he tries to like hold it in , but then he's like he's just smiling super .
Speaker 2So I thought that was really , I thought that was a good acting moment , I think I agree , I , I was thinking about it and I was like you know this whole movie . This is my problem with artists that want to switch off to acting . They don't know how to act for the most part and their voice
Music Authenticity and Character Development
Speaker 2they're . They sounds very like they're reading the lines . You could tell they're not comfortable yet but in this whole film mark feels looks so comfortable , like it doesn't even . It looks like second nature to him and I don't know if it's because he is at the time very still much heavily in in the art right . Yeah , 2001 . No , not even they broke up in 93 . Yeah , so maybe just from his experience , yeah .
Speaker 3Yeah , it sounds like it's relatable . He he's had . He probably did live this rock star life .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , it was transferable skills , right , as they say in the work industries , so he looked like false in it , but I will give him credit for this when he's drugged up right when Jennifer . Aniston comes and I feel like there's so many actors , whether they're artists before or not , they suck at the drug scene Like it's just so exaggerated and so like we just watched an episode of that 70s show and it's the the episode where donna gets the long island ice .
Speaker 2Yes , and her being drunk was so over the top over the top , so over , and I just feel bad for her . I was like I would hate like being an actor and having to do this over the top comedic bit and it's just like not even hitting , because I remember even watching it when the episode was out and just being like , haha , yeah , but I give him props for that . It wasn't overly done , it wasn't underly done , it seemed appropriate and you know . So I give him props .
Speaker 3That scene , that really like uh , that tore my heart out .
Speaker 2It was good it was good it was . I was like you know . And jennifer aniston , she really brought that character . She stayed herself the whole time . She didn't become somebody else . She didn't let the crazy lifestyle get to her .
Speaker 3Even though it was , she stayed herself the whole time and I thought it was good it was so good and and then just at the end , when he was like I'm gonna go with you , and she was like where he's ? Like I'll go with you to seattle .
Speaker 2We're in seattle , yeah I was like this bitch composer , so yeah , you know , I don't got it in me . Girl , you probably could , could do that I . I couldn't you have good composure I I can't . So I give props , because I too was .
Speaker 2I was becoming enraged for her , and I only regret not being old enough to see this movie in in the theaters because I think it would have been that much more entertaining , because I don't know about you guys , but sometimes we will go to the well , the theaters I grew up going to was Southgate Edwards Cinema , and if that one was completely full we would go to the Bianchi Theater in . Paramount Isn't that the $2 ? No , I think it was called Bianchi . I don't know . It's at Paramount .
Speaker 3But I've been to Southgate that one's nice . The Edwards , yeah , it was nice .
Speaker 2The Edwards yeah , it was nice yeah , and the Bianchi one was just so ghetto like people would be commenting after it sometimes it was entertaining , other times not . But I would have loved to have the audience commentary on that scene . You go girl . When we went to go see , when we went to go see Spiderman 3 I think it was at the Edwards cinema and when he , when uh , toby mcguire slaps kirsten dunst , oh yeah , someone in the audience yelled you bastard , that's what I live for that background commentary .
Speaker 2I love it so if this happened to you , I want to know in the comments too if this happened to you , who would you replace ? It could be like a front man , a front person of a band or a solo artist . If this happened to you , do you have ?
Speaker 3one . I thought long and hard . I would replace hayley williams from paramore .
Speaker 2That's a good one you know she was on my list . I made a list and then I had to like scratch them out . I didn't pick her because there's a tiktok and I had to admit she was right . About how people this is just for me . I don't think this resonates with you but how some people are saying that like paramore fell off and how they don't like paramore's music and they're like maybe you just didn't like paramore , maybe you just like the emo music from paramore , and I feel like , well , that is still paramore . Like you cannot say who's . You're doing the same thing . You're criticizing these people were saying that they're not real paramore or whatever the fuck . But you're doing the same thing . And there's there are some people that are like I listened to paramore then and still now like I'm a real fan well , I yeah there has been a style change , but I mean I think that's normal .
Speaker 3Like you , yeah , you age and you're you go through different phases of life . You're not always going to be writing these angsty like emo songs .
Speaker 2One band that I thought matured like every album that came out , every song , every song that hit on the radio , and even when they would change it , their sound , it still sounded like them a little bit . I feel like they didn't lose touch with who they really were like . The sound was different , but they didn't lose , I'm on the edge of my seat girl . I'm sorry , who is it ? It was lincoln park .
Speaker 2Oh yeah , that was one band where I was like man , you guys can't change it , but you're still you . I don't know what it is , what your essence is , still shining through the difference of sound . And I had like I think I only had two albums of them and they're the band that I regret not seeing . I still regret if they were to have a hologram , if they were to have a contest to have someone replace or or sub the way that they did with what sublime and rome , oh yeah , which I was like . Who is asking for sublime ? Like there's so many people that are asking for lincoln park ? We want to give the people what they want .
Speaker 3No , no , we'll give you sublime instead . You get , you get what you get .
Speaker 2So that's . That's the band that I feel like . No matter what , they matured flawlessly , like every album well , I heard they're looking for a singer you're lying , I'm just kidding , because he's dead , yeah but that's a good choice , paramore , and she can sing and she's always invited to the cookout .
Speaker 2she always is , and she got , she got rhythm . Yeah , she got rhythm , she got the sound . Um , if it were to be a band because I had an artist , but but a band , bear with me y'all the Black Eyed Peas your name is Fergie . I would do Fergie justice . I would do Fergie justice Because , let me tell you , I used to work at Hot Topic .
Speaker 1And when I worked at Hot .
Speaker 2Topic . I worked at Hot Topic when I was like . I think I worked there between like 2009 , 2010 .
Speaker 2So when it was fading out of the rocker . We had Justin Bieber t-shirts and people were hating us and one of the girls was like , yeah , I like the black eyed peas . Before there was Fergie , and I was like there was no Fergie . I just sounded like a dumb teenager , right . And they're like , yeah , whenever they get the new front person , like it sucks . But I was like I like the music that they make with Fergie , like I think it's catchy , like do I think it's good music ? I wouldn't say it's a masterpiece . Is it catchy ? Yeah , I am in their corner . Like what am I gonna say to that ? Like he makes good music ? Do I think she's the best singer ? Nah , she , she don't , she don't . But , um , I guess I would have to . It would be cool to roll with them . Okay , my name , my , my solo one , would be miley cyrus , though oh yeah , I don't know if you have a solo one my solo one .
Speaker 3I didn't think about a solo . I thought you were going to pick no Doubt , I was thinking that at first . But but what ? The racism .
Speaker 2I mean you would be new .
Speaker 3I'd be new , you'd be New . Doubt , yeah , I know .
Speaker 2So it would be appropriate . I don't know , you don't want to take that heat . I was going to say I think the heat is bearable because we're all still fans .
Speaker 3We're still fans , so it must not be that bad I hate it .
Speaker 2I remember when Luxurious came out and I felt so seen I was like the candies . The candies . You know what baby felt seen ? She had the virgen . Yeah .
Speaker 3That's what baby felt , seen , oh my God , she cut the shirt in half and I was like I know and a half and I was like I know that was scandalized .
Speaker 2I was like no , she did it . Yeah , yeah , I mean she's going there though . Yeah , you know , I don't know any mexican .
Speaker 3Like no , selena would never I know , oh there , if I was a solo artist .
Speaker 2There you go there you go , there you go I'll .
Speaker 3I'll be supporting you I'll wear a fake butt , it's fine . There you go . Yeah , I'll help you got this , but there was some interesting , um interesting lines that they said when um chris is fighting with his bandmate , uh rob , and he's like don't make me feel like shit , because you're too scared to write your own songs .
Speaker 2And I was like ooh , and I felt , you know , there was a lot of that going on in the beginning , because even the brother had said , like you don't play your own songs , you're playing someone else's . It's pathetic , yeah . And I was like man , I didn't even think about that .
Speaker 3People are giving this dude shit .
Speaker 2And I was like , man , I didn't even think about that People are giving this dude shit . And I think it was because of his level of commitment . Yeah , I think that's why , Because I think if he was like a successful businessman as well , no one's going to give him shit , yeah , you know . And then I was like , oh , stick it to them , because now all your hard work paid off . It paid off Now , all your hard work paid off .
Speaker 3It paid off . There you go . You have crazy fan obsession ? Yeah , definitely , but I'm like what's wrong with being uncomfortable ? It seems fun , it does seem fun .
Speaker 2Like we play rock band here . We have a good ass time , bitch . I'm like what's the problem ? Like you're pretty good at singing . I will say this all the time Like we go karaoke and I'm just like this is my pad , thank you , you sing great .
Speaker 3I try , it's fucking fun . It is fun . I'm just like what's . And then one time for New Year's I went somewhere where they had dueling pianos . Oh , I've always wanted to go .
Speaker 2It's so cool , and they were just there's , like you know they're people playing covers on these , like and it was so cool and I'm like that's like the funnest . That has to be the funnest job in the world it does . And and when I was a kid I always wanted to do two things as hobbies paint and piano and play piano . And I think I'm I have fun painting , but I think as when I get older , I'm really gonna pick up piano .
Speaker 3My boyfriend was like you have long fingers from piano perfect for it's perfect for something another , another p word , another yeah , but yeah , I didn't .
Speaker 2I kind of felt bad that they were just like shaming this , they were like ripping on him so hard , but I guess that's the point . Right , this is like the I don't know , get a real job to be right and then I thought it was .
Speaker 3I thought his family was going to come back at the end of the movie like they just disappeared Completely .
Speaker 2Yeah , it's like whatever , but you know what ? That's fine , because I don't think I handle another scene . This movie was long enough . Yeah , it was pretty long . So out of all the times I complain about full circles , it's appropriate . I did not see Bobby being gay . Oh yeah , see Bobby being gay , oh yeah , when he said that I was like . And then , when he was like , did you think what you think that other song was about ? And um , so my dad loves , loves Hall and Oates . Well , he doesn't love them , he likes them . He didn't realize that one of them was gay . So when I told him , it was like like earth shattering to him . You're telling me I've been listening to songs about gays like oh my god so upset .
Speaker 2Um , so I , when , when that happened , when this happened in the movie where it was revealed , it reminded me of the experience I had with my dad telling him about the gay , and so I was like my dad there . I was like I had no , I just seen this movie . So I was like I had no idea he was gay and I thought it was . I tripped out because they were just like elvis was the king and he was like and what ? I'm the queen , you bastard . I was like yep , he's gay .
Speaker 3All right , that's what I didn't see , I feel like a lot of rock stars were like like motley crew with . They were wearing all these kind of crazy makeup and then like Twisted Sister , and I'm just like this , I'm like guys .
Speaker 2I think a lot of guys were doing gay shit than they care to say .
Speaker 3Yes .
Speaker 2And then even David Bowie , like even his wife , has said that yeah , he's done sex exchanges , mm , hmm , and like a sex . He was a prostitute almost right he was having sex for other forms of compensation and who else was doing around it . Well , Elton John's obviously gay . Who else came out as gay ? That dude from Wham ?
Speaker 3Careless Whisperer , george Michael .
Speaker 2Yeah , there you go . There was a lot of more than they cared to say . And then , of course , queen , he was out and about at a time where it was not okay 70s .
Speaker 3Well , I guess in the 70s they were kind of coming out right , kind of I don't know I'm coming . So the bechdel test .
Speaker 2Oh wait , I have one more two cents okay , go ahead I'm glad at how , when they did break up , how they broke up , because they kind of did break up right when he was drugged up . Um , it was not violent or cheating or loud fighting . It was just like it is , what it is . Let's move on . And I enjoyed that portion because I was like it's gonna be too chaotic , right . The chaos of the rock world , and then the chaos . I was like assuming I'm glad that she cut , nipped it in the bud before she got . Yeah , she did not become herself . Yeah .
Speaker 3The Bechdahl test , so the Bechdahl test . So actually this movie fails the .
Speaker 2Bechdol test . So actually this movie fails the bechdol test . I could kind of see that with all the movies yeah , but I really love that it .
Speaker 3I think it was good for the movie . That made sense . Yes , so there's the scenes where she's , she's in the car with the other girlfriends or wives , and then they're just talking about you know , the , the lifestyle and they're like , oh well , you could have the lifestyle . And they're like , oh well , you could have fun too . And you know they'll buy you jewelry and whatever . And then she's just like you know , when I'm your age , I don't want to be as cynical as you and then the girl's like I'm 23 hello has that ever happened to you no , it's the opposite .
Speaker 3No , it's . People are always like oh , you remind me of my daughter , how old are you ? And I'm like 32 . And they're like , oh , never mind , and I'm like , okay , damn , what a burn .
Speaker 2Damn , you should think of a clever comeback for that , because that is just crazy you have a baby face and I think your stature I was with that because I think people think I'm older because I'm tall and I just told someone I'm turning 30 and they were like you look so young , some melanin girl but yeah , and then also I like the scene in the elevator where that girl's like , oh , are you a stripper ?
Speaker 3and she's like no . She's like , oh , you should be like . You look so good , oh , always people always complimenting jennifer anderson's body , all right so I think it was cool , like just to show how her character , emily , just stood apart from all these other women . Like she , she had , you know , motivation , she had a plan , she wanted to do her own thing and she did , like it just shows that she didn't fit in there yeah , absolutely .
Speaker 2I think that I think they did a great way of showing and not telling yeah and I picked they .
Speaker 2I think they picked the perfect actress for it to be honest because when I first seen the lineup I was like I don't know how this is gonna be , because I have only known jenna anderson , jennifer anderson and , like friends , she's not very composed . Yeah , just go with it . Where she's kind of composed , um , what else ? Oh , um , horrible bosses . Yeah , you know what I mean . So I was like I kind of don't know and , and I gotta say it , she's pretty diverse . I've got to say it .
Speaker 3You know , she's , she's pretty diverse yeah , I think she really kicked it out of the park , kicked it , hit it she hit it , knocked it .
Speaker 1There you go , I got you girl she knocked it out of the park all right , everyone .
Speaker 2Now it's time for our newest
Popcorn or Kernel: Rating Rock Star
Speaker 2segment popcorn or colonel . Uh , you know how sometimes we think we're just not the audience for this . Well , we turned it into a metric where we judge the accessibility of the movie .
Speaker 3Yeah , so we're going to look at the characters in the plot to see how relatable they are to a general audience or to a specific audience . So if we think the movie can relate to a lot of people , it's a popcorn so you could pass it around and share it with the whole family . But if it's for a more specific audience , then it's a popcorn so you could pass it around and share it with the whole family . But if it's for a more specific audience , then it's a kernel .
Speaker 2Some people like it , some people spit it back . All right , so I guess we can agree that the main characters are Chris and . Emily ? I guess yeah . So Chris and Emily are the main characters . Are they relatable ? I would say yes , yeah , I think so . Are they relatable ? I would say yes , yeah , I think so . Are they attractive ?
Speaker 2Yes , yes and yes , that is the hottest Girl . When they were about to have that threesome , I was like what's going on here ? What kind of movie you picked . I was excited . It was good . I wanted to see more . I'm usually not like that , but I'm like more . Were they funny ? I thought she was funny .
Speaker 3Yeah , this whole fucking movie was funny . Yeah , I think it was funny .
Speaker 2Are they charming ? I thought so .
Speaker 3Yeah .
Speaker 2I was charmed Again . Good looking people , Not much to do . Did they invoke sympathy or empathy ?
Speaker 3I thought so , I think so .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , and it all came around full circle at the end . Regarding the movie and the plot , are there stakes ?
Speaker 3I thought so . I think their relationship was at stake , and then his lifestyles are completely changed .
Speaker 2You know , when you go on forever , it's like are the characters in jeopardy ? I didn't think so . No , is the conflict interesting ? I thought so . Yeah , I think so . And then is the topic relevant ?
Speaker 2I thought the topic was to be true to yourself yeah , that's what I was picking up on and I think that is relevant because , you know , you have this guy who I think he was being true to himself the whole time , like he loved this band and he's doing living his hobby . He didn't . It's not like he intended to be in the band , yeah , you know . And then he realized that that's not what he wanted to do anymore . He lived it , been there , done that , and then he was still following what he wanted to do . He didn't fall into giving the money , he didn't fall into what matts was saying .
Speaker 3No , not matts was the other musician , one of the musicians in the band was kirk the one like oh , we write the music , you just just sing the songs who was the one that was telling him to just like live the dream , I think it was Matt in the beginning .
Speaker 1Yeah , yeah , it was Matt .
Speaker 2Like this is your job . Oh , which was the one that's on dialysis , or whatever the fuck they were doing .
Speaker 1Oh , I don't know , that's the one that was telling him , right , yeah ?
Speaker 2To live the dream . You live the fantasy all day , every day , and I think that that was the vibe then . Yeah right , it's like you're blessed with this . And then johnny lee tommy lee with when I think of this movie , made me feel like it was about molly crew . But it wasn't yeah um , so that's what I thought . So I think , yes , sounding like a popcorn , yeah , I think it's is total popcorn . So , regarding the ratings , tomato Meter out of 129 reviews 53% . Audience score of over 50,000 ratings 59% . What , what do ?
Speaker 3you rate this movie ? I really like it . I think it's a 10 out of 10 . I do too . I can't disagree with you . It has . Well , I'm always a sucker for musicals . I like , like it . I think it's a 10 out of 10 . I do too . I can't disagree with you . It has . Well , I'm always a sucker for musicals . I like musicals . She is you got hot men , hot women . There's a nice . I think he learns a nice lesson . Like you know , be true to yourself and I like that . I think it's something I can relate to . I'll do something and then I'll be like okay , I'm done with this .
Speaker 2Like move on yeah to the next thing .
Speaker 3So I'm just like , yeah , he did the rock star thing and he's over it . I admire that about you .
Speaker 2That's good thank you , I I also get this . Give this a 10 out of 10 . I think the writing was good . I think the the story matt gave matt's gave gave perspective . Yeah , and I didn't expect that from that fool . He left his wife yeah .
Speaker 2And then Chris passes on the mantle and I thought that was fucking cool . Like , instead of him feeling challenged like Bobby did , he was more than happy to pass the mantle and then , be true to yourself , believe Acting was good , fucking funny . I'm so mad that this isn't considered a comedy . Good music , good music . Everyone was mostly sexy . The original singer was gay . You get the gay points they're going to give it to you . This is wonderful . It's 10 out of 10 . I'm sad that more people don't watch it . When my boyfriend found out that we were going to review this movie , he was not excited . What he's done , yeah , I was like this is why .
Speaker 2Bree is my film Because I was like what the fuck are you talking about ? I want to know right now what's wrong with it . I want to know too . When he comes , he will answer you .
Speaker 3What's the problem ?
Speaker 2It's funny , and he didn't watch the whole movie with me . So I think that's another thing too , because I was like you missed , you missed a great film , like it's funny , the casting's good . I can't . I don't have one thing to come like it was . How long was this fucking film ? This movie wasn't even two hours , it was one hour and 46 minutes . It was perfect . It was perfect . Chef's kiss great . Now reviewing eight mile . Now reviewing 8 Mile .
Speaker 3The people of Detroit know 8 Mile
8 Mile and Eminem's Acting Debut
Speaker 3as a city limit , a border , a boundary . It is also a psychological dividing line that separates Jimmy from where he wants to be .
Speaker 2This film is an examination of a critical week in Jimmy's life . This movie is rated R . It's considered a drama musical . Uh , it's directed by curtis hansen , who he directed la confidential . I don't know if you've seen that movie . It's 97 wonder boys from 2000 no adaptation . Oh , he was an actor in there . Um , he also directed and produced in her shoes . Did you see that one ? No , I didn't . I like tony collette . Yeah , yeah , that is tony collette I think so , cameron diaz . Lucky you , I haven't heard of that one .
Speaker 2Uh , the big year he produced , too big to fall , fail chasing mavericks . That sounds familiar , but I don't know . Yeah , me neither . It was written by Scott Silver and I don't really recognize anything . I mean , he wrote the Fighter . I think that's the one with Christian Bale , oh , okay .
Speaker 3That was a good one .
Speaker 2Yeah , I like that one too . The Finest Hours . He produced Stronger for 2017 . He wrote Joker , the 2019 one , oh okay , and he's writing the 2024 joker . I think that's the one . Yeah , it's like in french . Yeah , yeah oh , okay and so this movie was released in theaters november 2002 it was a long time . I was like I can't believe box office girls of the usa was 116.7 million . It's an hour and 15 minutes long .
Speaker 2Yeah , you got jimmy rabbit played by eminem . You got , uh , stephanie played by kim bassinger . You got Stephanie played by Kim Basinger . You got Future played by Makai Pfeiffer , thank you . You got Alex played by Brittany Murphy . Rest in peace . Cheddar Bob played by Evan Jones . Greg played by Michael Shannon I was so happy to see him here . I was like another one . Great .
Speaker 3I remember we were like looking up Michael Shannon and you're like , oh , he's an 8 mile . And I was like another one , great . I remember we were like looking up michael shannon , you're like , oh , he's an eight mile and I was like no , he's not me too bitch .
Speaker 2I was like what so what part was he ?
Speaker 3in .
Speaker 2Yeah , I totally forgot he was in this movie and we got papa duck played by the mcu's anthony mackie , I was like anthony mackie . What hilarious and then other notable actors in here that came out is taryn manning , as j'Nai the ex-girlfriend .
Speaker 3Yeah , I like her .
Speaker 2I like her too . I always like seeing good actors in their older stuff . So here in this movie there's a few things to talk about . I guess we could talk about the guys being just emotionally and physically abusive to each other yeah . Trying to support their rap dreams . It was confusing me . I was like do you love each other or not ? Yeah , you guys don't know how to express yourselves . Yeah .
Speaker 3I don't know , I don't know people like this . Well , I met people like this , funny enough enough , when I was in college . Yeah , yeah , and I was like I thought we were here to like learn guys , right . And then it was just weird being around them , because they're you know , they're talking and talking and I'm like , are you angry ? Are you buddies ? Like it's what is happening . I couldn't understand the dynamic and I'm like , should I be nervous ?
Speaker 2Yeah , I think I was raised in this type of humor Because I get it and I'm not saying it's okay , it's totally not okay . But , it's kind of like the machismo in it too . I think it's just the machismo that I can see , like being a POC , like oh , we'll make fun of you , yeah , but I'm here for you yeah like oh , you like different stuff .
Speaker 2I'll make fun of you , but I'm still here for you and , um , it's awkward and uncomfortable . Yeah , it was uncomfortable to watch as well , and you can tell they don't like it either . Yeah , so I'm like this is just immature men . They don't know how to express themselves . Um , and it was uncomfortable , but it goes hand in hand with another topic of fighting over talking shit . Yes , what is the boundary ? Especially if you're , especially if what you're saying is true ?
Speaker 3yeah , but I just think it's like such a dumb thing to get mad about , like oh so , and so said this about you .
Speaker 2oh yeah , I'm to go beat him up and there was a lot of that , especially with Wink's character . Yeah Right , because he was saying that he was going to bring people up . He's making connects and I think , when you're at this level of poverty and limited options or options that you are unaware of being available to you , like I don't know if , if they know that , oh , if you go to college , they have other resources yeah , you know what I mean um , you know , you would know that stuff like that takes time .
Speaker 2Yeah , you know what I mean ? He wink is obviously making the connection . They were just hating on him because he it wasn't fast enough for them . Yeah , and that's what really bothered me . I'm like it's not that he's lying , it's just it's taking . It takes time , which they didn't understand . So , but I feel like they were mostly talking shit about him and I felt bad for him but even this , like rap rival , um , rap group , what were they calling themselves peace , something , right ?
Speaker 3yeah , like , and they were gonna like go fight them in the parking lot and I'm like over what ? Like , why are you fighting ? Because they're , they said some dumb things and they're silly little rap . Like , yeah , I was like that's basically they diss me . Yeah , and I'm just like you're gonna fight and like that one guy pulled out a gun and I'm just like for this , this is what we're fighting over , I think it's just because that's all you got .
Speaker 2Yeah , it's not like they got jobs , it's not like they got careers , it's not like they're going to school like that's just their life like . And I'm not saying that it's right or wrong . I think it's just because where I was raised like I I've asked these questions already why did you join the gang ?
Speaker 1life like what oh I ?
Speaker 2didn't know I had any other options , like we're first gen , like our parents didn't teach us , and I guess I get that like . But I agree with you . It's kind of like have you seen blood in , blood out ? Yes , where the mom is like who are you fighting ? You're fighting yourself , yeah , and it's the same thing . You're fighting yourself . What are you fighting ? You're fighting yourselves , um . But I gotta say there was like an authenticity to that and I was entertained through and through . It makes sense , but I was entertained .
Speaker 3I also like blood and blood out I don't know , I'm just like it seems like such like a little kid , like , oh , you hurt my feelings .
Speaker 2Yeah , let's fight yeah , well , yeah , low-income communities . You know it's like there's very um , low self-esteem and immaturity . You know you have to your your . If your parents don't got it , yeah , you ain't gonna get it . You know what I mean ? Yeah , so I think it was very authentic . I think the way that they wrote this , I was like damn , it's pretty . I thought I thought eminem wrote some of it .
Speaker 3I was like , well , I thought this was like based on his , on his life .
Speaker 2I think it is too . Yeah , so I don't , but I thought the way how it seemed pretty , it made sense and it seemed pretty authentic to me . I thought that there was going to be like . I thought it was going to be tacky , because I haven't . I don't remember watching this movie when it came out 2002 . I think I was like in the 3rd or 4th grade yeah , I saw it later .
Speaker 2You know what I mean so yeah , it was a lot of fighting going on . And the dude that shoots himself , yes , and the you know what I mean . Yeah , so yeah , it was a lot of fighting going on .
Speaker 3And the dude that shoots himself yes and the no , and his dick or his leg , I think it was his leg .
Speaker 2Yeah , but they were saying we were making fun of him , saying it was in his dick , and even he was like I just didn't want them to make fun of me .
Speaker 3Yeah , and he didn't open the door .
Speaker 2Yeah , and then you the door .
Speaker 3yeah , and then you know you know , jimmy , he went in there and comforted his friend , so that was nice . Yeah , that was nice . And then I think also too , he was the only one like they were . They were like , I think , driving in the car and they were or somewhere , and they're like fighting again . And he was like really like cheddar bob's in the hospital .
Speaker 2We're gonna fight right now yeah , there was a lot of that and I think , again , they just don't know how to themselves , because obviously you're feeling on edge about the escalation of this situation and you don't know how to express yourself and even like in the beginning where Eminem threw up and they're making fun of him ? They don't know how to express themselves and be
Conflict, Authenticity, and Rap Battles
Speaker 2supportive of his friend .
Speaker 3You know emotional availability . And then they were all clowning on his car .
Speaker 2And then the next scene they're all in his car , and then when the car breaks out , man I knew , I know shut the fuck up .
Speaker 2And then they all get back in and I give props for eminem's character , just just , you know , rolling with it . It's kind of like um , like he knows that they don't mean it , he knows he can tell him shut the fuck up . Like he knows that they don't mean it , he knows he can tell him shut the fuck up . Like he speaks up for himself , you know , um . So I thought the whole thing was very well written , very , very well written . Was it ? Was I annoyed yeah .
Speaker 1But was it authentic ? Hell yeah .
Speaker 3Um , I want to talk about the hair , brittany Murphy's hair . Let me get a pull up a reference photo . She had the side bangs and the flip , the hair flipped out .
Speaker 3Oh , and I was like man , I was like you don't know how many hours I spent trying , trying to get my hair to flip like that it's not for everyone , you know , she had her stylist , oh I see it now , and I could always get one side that looked good and then the young was like forever trying to flip the other side and I was like I fucked it up . Let me keep trying and you try to save it . And the more you try to save it , the more .
Speaker 2It just doesn't , and that's why I don't like looking at movies and being like I want that hairstyle . It's just never gonna live up . It's just never gonna live up .
Speaker 3I have very dull hair but I feel like that was , yeah , 2002 . Yeah , like when I was in middle school , like seventh and eighth grade , that was the hair everyone had . I was gonna say I didn't know one bitch that actually did that hair . There were bitches that were doing this . Yeah , and I remember , and even like when people would go to the mall and have the little like , take those photos and pass them out . I have so many pictures of girls I went to school with and they have the hair flipped out it is so funny .
Speaker 2I can't . Yeah , it's definitely a staple in time , yeah , but I I don't like how her character was . I feel like you know , because she fucks eminem and then she fucks wink and obviously it's a problem , but they don't ever address it . He just fights wink .
Speaker 3Yeah , she never addresses it , yeah , but I didn't understand why . Because he was helping her with her like modeling portfolio . But I was like why does she have sex with him ?
Speaker 2and that's why I say , like they never address it , like is she just , uh , what did they call the people addicted to sex ? Oh , nympho , yeah , I was like is she one of those , or does she ? Is she just really trying to fuck her way to the ? Top yeah which was a . Thing yeah , hate it's just , it was a thing um and she never addresses it . She's like you had no right to beat him up . Why don't you mind your business ?
Speaker 2It was never addressed by anyone and the only way it was addressed was when they pull up , I don't know . So I was more distracted by the whole situation than the look , because I was like what is happening here ?
Speaker 3But I thought their love scene was romantic . I thought so too , was like I thought it was romantic all the way up until the end , when they just started talking , yeah , and she was like , oh , you're really gonna make it like in this rap game or whatever . So I'm like then I was like , well , did she just have sex with him so that he would take her with him ? That's what I'm thinking , because I was like what is going on , like why would you say that immediately ? That's what I'm thinking , because I was like what is going on , like why would you say that immediately ?
Speaker 2that's what I'm thinking , because why , why else would you fuck wink like I ? Had , I don't see or hear any chemistry between her and wink and they were just fucking . So I kind of do feel like she was just trying to fuck her way to the top to be somewhere . Unless she's just having a good time , she could be both , I don't know , you know , but I was kind of bothered by them like never really addressing it regarding her I was just confused .
Speaker 3I'm like what happened ? That's what I'm saying .
Speaker 2The people want to know what happened . So what do you ? What do you think is eminem's best acting moment ?
Speaker 3well , again , I don't think he was acting very hard because he was just being himself . So I think , you know , this is probably like a neighborhood that he came from . I know he grew up in a predominantly black community , yeah , so I mean , I I think he was just being himself so not very hard , huh yeah I don't nothing .
Speaker 3Nothing really stood out to me . I was trying to find something , I guess just his nervousness and the stage fright when he like froze up . But I couldn't really think of another scene . Did you think , Did you ?
Speaker 2I was paying attention and I think when he goes off on his mom Because he doesn't overly do it , I think whenever people have conflict , there's just like where do I want to go ? Every single word , every single sentence is an opportunity for me to like be loud or like be low or like cry or yell , like there's so much creative space for you to go .
Speaker 2But that's the challenge of it . You have so much creative space . You need to be true to the character . What's happening right here , right now , and the little details of everything that has happened . Are you having a realization , are you not ? Are you fed up ? Are you not ?
Speaker 2Um , in order for it to be authentic because , in my opinion , take the movie selena , for example , right when jay will be , when , when jay will be going off , I was like that makes sense , but it can all . When she went off on chris , right in the alley or whatever the fuck , like it made sense that she popped off like that , but she didn't have to pop off like that , like she could have been much more stern and much more calm . Um , some people could say that she overly did it . I know people love that movie , but jlo's not at , especially at the time , wasn't the best actress ? Yeah , and she's not the best actress . She's a better actress . Now , I think she's a better actor than she is of all her other quote-unquote talents , right , yeah , so to me , I was like I think he executed that well because he didn't overly do it . He could have just like rampaged and like yeah to her and really scared her and his little sister right that's who she is , yeah , but he didn't .
Speaker 2So I feel like that's pretty good . You know , he stayed on task and didn't like throw the mom , you know , because he could have with all the shit he was going through , especially with that dude that she was trying to fuck . She was trying to fuck her way to the top . Yeah , that's embarrassing's embarrassing .
Speaker 3Imagine walking in on your mom .
Speaker 2I thought he was going to the way this whole movie was going .
Speaker 3He did in the beginning and then she was like well , you could have knocked , and I think she's right you know your mother .
Speaker 2True , you know your mama . I don't know what else to say . You know , and she's not a bad looking mama . Yeah , she's a hot mom , you know . So that's the only one that stood out to me and I appreciate him . I think his acting on every time he stood up for himself . I feel like it's so easy when you have like an angry scene , when you have to speak up for yourself , to just yell , yell , and he doesn't all the time he does not all the time it's a slippery slope of really doing angry .
Speaker 3I think yeah , so I think you did a good job . Yeah , what do you think about calling yourself out so other people they can't use it against you ?
Speaker 2I didn't know where that was gonna go . I was like where's , what the fuck is this ? We're gonna say , and man , he killed it . I thought it was funny and I thought it was good because the whole and I think it gave that extra layer of being confident like I see me , I know what I am , I accept myself for what I am is the way I took it because he wasn't just talking shit about himself , right , right , he was stating facts . Yeah , I am who I am and I'm gonna tell you who you are .
Speaker 3Yeah , then he was saying that the other guy , papa doc , is a liar his real name is clarence I was like damn that was funny and I thought it was the whole thing .
Speaker 2There were so many points in the film . Again another one that should have been a comedy I was laughing throughout the whole film .
Speaker 3You didn't laugh a lot I thought , yeah , I thought it was funny , it should be a comedy . No , yeah .
Speaker 2I'm so pissed that it wasn't a comedy Because there were so many parts , like when they're on the car and they're shooting yes , shit , let me show y'all how to use one of these , you know . And then when they start , when Future and Jimmy are like outside fixing the car and they're yeah , I was like damn , that's my creative , it's good . Um , but I thought , yeah , I thought that was very clever , creative , I thought it was funny and he killed it . Obviously . What do you think .
Speaker 3I thought , yeah , I think the movie is funny . I like chatter bob , I think he was . I think it was funny because he like he's trying to be part of the group but he doesn't get it . Like he kept saying the wrong things or he kept doing the wrong things and then at the end of the rap battle he's like aren't you nervous what they're gonna say ?
Speaker 2that he that he banged your girl like shut the fuck up , cheddar bob , yeah , dude over there like can I talk to you in private and go ? He's like can I come ? Obviously not cheddar ball , obviously not um , but I thought , and I was waiting for anthony , anthony mackie's character , papa doctor , and you know that food got ragged on for the rest of his career being talked out to , I know , by the , by the outsider , that everyone talks shit about . What do you think about Anthony Mack as the antagonist ? Is that what they're called ?
Speaker 3I don't know . I felt like they could have made him . I feel like I didn't see him a lot in the movie . He didn't get a lot of screen time . I felt like he was a mystical character . Papa Doc Hilarious .
Speaker 2I liked it , the parts that he did show up in , because I feel like prior to this all I had ever seen him in was in the mcu .
Speaker 2yeah , and I kind of like him that he's diverse in this way , like he could execute both and I'm proud of him because I feel like when you're poc , I feel they want to put you in a box . Yeah , well , they , they want to put anybody in a box . You know , if you're , I feel they want to put you in a box . Well , they want to put anybody in a box .
Speaker 2If you're a hot girl . They want to make you the Scarlett Johansson bombshell . You're a POC . They want to put you in the box of the POC , always and forever , and so I'm proud of him . He made it , he made it , he made it Any other two cents .
Speaker 3I was going any other two cents um .
Speaker 2I was asking about the burning the house down . I got flashbacks . Um , I thought it was a cool point for them to like get together . Oh wait , he was like that could have been your sister . Yeah , I was like , you did it , you did , that's all you had to say .
Speaker 3You personalized , yeah this situation and I think because then , um what , alex was there and she was kind of looking at him like oh , are you gonna do it ? So I think he was like oh , like I gotta do it I gotta do it .
Speaker 2She's here , she's watching me yeah , the bechdel test so what does this get on the bechdel test ?
Speaker 3ah , the bechdel , test , so it fails but you know what britney ruff ?
Speaker 2you don't say much she doesn't say much .
Speaker 3And then the mom . You know it's always talking about dude , right she's always talking about greg , greg , yeah . And then the little sister . She doesn't say much . I don't think she said anything .
Speaker 2Yeah , so it fails I could see that coming .
Final Thoughts on 8 Mile
Speaker 2All right , everyone . Now it's time for our newest segment , popcorn or colonel . All right , so for the main characters I mean eminem's character jimmy is for sure one of them , I don't know who else has enough lines Maybe Future . Yeah , I was going to say probably Future . Which , what a great best friend to have on your side .
Speaker 2I feel like he was really on his side the whole time , even when Eminem stood up for himself and was like I fucking told you , I don't want to be part of this fucking stuff . You know , even that blow up seemed appropriate . You know , all right , that blow up seemed appropriate . You know , yeah , all right . So main characters uh , jimmy and future , are they relatable ? I'll say yes . What did you relate about them trying to make ?
Speaker 3it . Oh yeah , trying to make it struggling . Not enough money . Um , I'm like the car breaking down . I used to have a car like that , your friends coming for for you to have a car like that .
Speaker 2Your friend's coming for you for help , yeah , okay . Okay , I agree , I was thinking about too literal , like about the wrapping . Oh , but you're right , are they attractive ? I never thought , eminem was attractive .
Speaker 3No , I don't think so . I was like I'm not into it . And then Mekhi I was distracted because his teeth were so white , yes , and I was like , if you're poor , I'm like . A lot of people I know have some jacked up teeth yeah , yellow and crooked .
Speaker 2I was more distracted by his lock . That was like always in the middle of his face and I was , like , can you get the shit out of your fucking ? Like , can you see properly ?
Speaker 3that had to have been a wig , of course , and I was just like , oh this is it would bought like it bothers me when , when hair's in my face yeah , you know like I used to have bangs all the time and now I'm like .
Speaker 2Now I think I'm good , what about funny ? Is this movie funny ?
Speaker 3yeah , it's hilarious the whole way through was it charming main characters ?
Speaker 2are they charming ? Uh , I don't think so . No , do they invoke sympathy or empathy ? Yeah , it did for me . Yeah , regarding the movie or the plot . Uh , are there stakes ? Yeah , they're poor . Yeah , I thought that . I thought that was the whole thing right .
Speaker 3Yeah , he has nowhere to live . Greg's gonna kick him out the car he fixed that keeps breaking .
Speaker 2Yeah , are the characters in jeopardy ? I thought they were at one point , but then it all got cleared . Yeah , the rap battle . Is the conflict interesting ? I thought it was for me Because I thought the conflict was he needed to believe in himself , right yeah , and muster up the courage to do it like everyone else , believed in him but him yeah , yeah , that's interesting is the topic relevant ? Believing yourself , I think so yeah , I think so .
Speaker 3It's looking like a popcorn . Yeah , I think this is a popcorn with the popcorn rating let's see this movie is certified fresh .
Speaker 275 on the tomato meter . That's out of 211 reviews . That's a lot out of over 250 000 ratings . This gets a 54 review in the audience . Yeah , I'm surprised .
Speaker 3What do you rate this film ? My only problem with the movie is that at the end , when they're like inviting Jimmy to come back , and they're like , oh , come back . And they're like , oh , take Doc's place and be the rap battle person and whatever . And then Future was like , oh , we can host together and stuff . And then Jimmy's like no , he's like I'm gonna , I have my own things to do . It kind of left it open . Like what are like what is he going to do ? Like what did he ? I feel like as if you're an m&m fan , you just kind of assume like , oh , he became m&m , yeah that's what I took yeah , but I was just like well , it's kind of like open to interpretation yeah .
Speaker 3So I was like that's the only thing I didn't . I was like , oh , where's this going ? And then , of course , my question with britney murphy . I'm like why ? Why does she have sex with that guy ? What was in it for her ?
Speaker 2I think it's clear why she's trying to fuck her way to the two women in here this whole fucking film .
Speaker 2Yeah , trying to fuck their way to the top , like that's how poor the women trying to fuck their way . The guys are trying to fuck their way to the top . That's how poor the women trying to fuck their way . The guys are trying to rap their way . Everyone's just trying to get their way to the top . So I give it a 9 out of 10 . I get that . I give it a 10 out of 10 . I was laughing the whole . I want to buy this movie . This movie was fucking funny . The rap battles . I was looking forward to every rap battle . Future was the best mc ever . He was like oh , hold up , hold up . You know , I thought it was funny . Everyone's acting was good . Um , music was good . Music was good . The the rap battle at the end was totally worth it .
Speaker 3Yeah so worth it . So , and I liked how they did the like mini rap battles , so they only had like 30 seconds or whatever . Yeah , yeah and then at the end they're like all right , a minute 45 , yeah I like that too .
Speaker 2It's real creative and , um , I watched like a documentary about rap and that was something that they really did do like early on . They there was rap battles like wherever they could , so it was nice , nice to see I thought I was entertained .
Speaker 3Oh , I forgot to mention my fun history fact . Oh , tell me , okay . So I went to . I went to college a long time ago , so my dates I don't remember but a long time ago , when they were , uh , or segregating , or desegregating , or desegregating the schools , right , right . So the you know , the black kids were gonna go to school with the white kids and stuff .
Speaker 3Yeah , the white families were outraged , of course , and they didn't want , because they didn't want black people to have access to the same , uh , education and programs and stuff that their white kids were having access to . So then the white people I think that's how the suburbs were created , like they started like leaving and stuff . So then the schools were underfunded . So when you have a low-income school , they cut music and sports and theater and they cut all these programs , right . So there's a whole generation of black people who didn't learn how to play instruments , damn . So that's how they started sampling other people's music and then they don't know how to sing . So they created rapping and stuff . Yeah , so this whole new genre of music was created because they were excluded intentionally yeah see , and that's why it's wrong to be racist , because you're always gonna fail .
Speaker 2All you're gonna do is putting a seed in the ground . Baby boo , beautiful , beautiful fun fact . Thank you , you're welcome , I'm proud . Beautiful , beautiful , fun fact . Thank you , you're welcome , I'm proud .
