A Bewitching Halloween Special

Step into our supernatural time machine as we crack open a witchy Double Feature from our vault! This conversation, recorded years ago but never released, dives into the contrasting portrayals of female power in "The Witches of Eastwick" (1987) and "Practical Magic" (1998).

What makes a witch story resonate across decades? We explore how these films, despite their similar themes, offer dramatically different takes on feminine strength and sisterhood. "The Witches of Eastwick," despite its star-studded cast of Cher, Susan Sarandon, and Michelle Pfeiffer, leaves us questioning its central message and the chemistry between its leads. Meanwhile, "Practical Magic" delivers a deeply satisfying narrative about generational bonds, and the power of female solidarity that still feels relevant today.

Our candid conversation doesn't hold back as we debate everything from Jack Nicholson's questionable sex appeal (could Rob Lowe or David Bowie have improved the film?) to the significance of midnight margaritas as a symbol of female friendship. We also introduce our rating system "Popcorn or Kernel" to determine which film has broader appeal versus niche charm.

Whether you're a longtime fan of these witchy classics or discovering them for the first time, this episode offers fresh perspectives on how supernatural stories reflect changing attitudes toward female power. Listen in and decide for yourself which film casts the more powerful spell!

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Transcript

Welcome to Season 2 Time Capsule

Speaker 1 0:10

Welcome to Season 2 of the Double Feature Podcast . Today we're opening up the time capsule . We'll be enjoying one of our unreleased episodes from a few years ago . Think of it as a conversation frozen in time . Buckle up and get ready to time travel In 3 , 2 , 1 .

Halloween Special: Witches of Eastwick

Speaker 2 0:53

thank you guys for tuning in to our halloween special episode . Uh , this halloween's topic is witches brujas . We will be reviewing the witches of Eastwick and practical magic , starting off with the witches of Eastwick .

Speaker 3 1:12

Three small town friends , alexandra , jane and Sookie , each having lost a man in their lives , are feeling unfulfilled until a stranger , daryl Van Horn , arrives and begins courting each of them in turn . Eventually , daryl tells them that they are witches . But as the three friends spend more time at his mansion enjoying themselves and learning about their powers , they begin to worry about Daryl's ultimate intentions .

Speaker 2 1:37

This movie is rated R . Its genre is comedy , fantasy . It's directed by George Miller , a lot of Mad Max Under his belt . He wrote and directed Mad Max of 1979 . Wrote and directed Mad Max 2 . The Road Warrior 1984 . The Twilight Zone Twilight Zone , the movie , oh okay .

Speaker 3 2:01

I like that one .

Speaker 2 2:03

Mad Max Beyond Thunderdomeome . That one came out in 85 um babe . He wrote and produced yeah , babe , the pig , that's random . Yeah , 95 babe , pig in the city . Happy feet , he wrote , he directed happy feet , which I loved . Happy feet made me cry . Happy feet 2 wrote and directed and produced that one um . And then he went on to continue with mad max . Mad max , fury road got a balance all over the place okay , he wrote and directed and produced mad max fury road .

Speaker 2 2:40

That was the 2015 release , the madness of max and says he played himself , directed and wrote the 2015 release . Loved it all right cool um , I hope he doesn't have a wife , because the wife's probably like I wish you loved me as much as you love your projects .

Speaker 2 2:58

Uh , it has two writers . The first one is john updick or updike , uh , I looked him up and this was the only thing that I could find on his repertoire . I don't know . Next one is Michael Christopher . He did Gia , he directed Gia , he directed Body Shots . I haven't heard that one . And he went on to direct and write Original Sin have you ever seen that one ?

Speaker 3 3:20

Oh yeah , angelina , is it good .

Speaker 2 3:22

It's interesting , I remember being a kid and seeing that movie cover at .

Speaker 3 3:26

Video .

Speaker 2 3:27

Max and being like , ooh , I don't know what that's about . This movie was released in theaters June 1987 . I wasn't , as my father would say . I wasn't even thought of . Yeah , box office gross in the USA was $58.7 million and you guys guessed it . It's two hours long .

Speaker 3 3:47

I always like to say that Two hours long . I guess my parents liked this movie because we had it on VHS . So I was like a little kid and I would watch this all the time because we had it .

Speaker 2 4:01

I can see that because my parents had never showed me this movie . At least , I don't remember watching it . It gives me the vibes of what's that movie with Meryl Streep and Goldie Hawn . Death Becomes Her it gives that vibe . You know like horror creepy hotties in there Starring Jack Nicholson as Daryl Cher , as Alexandra , susan Seredon as Jane , always a favorite Michelle Pfeiffer , she's everywhere .

Speaker 3 4:29

Pee-pees .

Speaker 2 4:30

Sasuki . Veronica Cartwright plays Felicia and Richard Jenkins plays Clyde , the new paper boss . So do you feel that this is like a men versus women kind of world kind of vibe ?

Speaker 3 4:47

Yeah , I was getting that impression when Daryl's trying to seduce , when he's trying to seduce Cher , and they're like having lunch and he's just like talking . Like the way he was talking was I don't know weird , like yeah , like something . He was just like , oh , like you're , I love women when they're recently divorced , or something . He was just like , oh , that's when women find their power and when they get rid of their men , or something some shit .

Speaker 2 5:14

Yeah , he was all sweet talking , everybody buttering everybody up with the type of butter they liked , and it was weird . Did you get that vibe ? I did I when , when we said , when I read topic , I didn't think of the world , I just thought like , yeah , their relationship is very much me versus them and I got the impression that he was like the devil , yeah . So I felt , yeah , that it was just like this man versus these three women . I don't know . I didn't feel like it was men versus women , these three women , I don't know . I didn't feel like it was men versus women , because I felt like , if that would have been true , I think um clyde would have been a little bit more passive , or yeah degrading as to his wife , felicia , with what she was going through , which I thought that was interesting because , I mean , I thought she was a witch , I don't know .

Speaker 2 6:03

What did you think ?

Speaker 3 6:04

yeah , I thought she was a witch too , because everything she was saying was was true . Yeah , but I guess the way she was saying it , people thought she was like going crazy , right .

Speaker 2 6:13

I thought she was either like a prophet or like another , a gift , a witch with a special gift , because this movie um jumps right into it . Yeah , it jumps right into it , um , without any like build-up , it's like it goes straight to the point um , there are these three friends . They're hearing this speech about this annoying person in the town and they come to realize that they were having the same thought at the same time . And it happened . And then , um , daryl appears like the either the day of or the next day as a result of them , and it just , you know , suki .

Speaker 3 6:48

I think it's suki , right , that's kind of like wait what like she's piecing it together , but it kind of like went nowhere yeah , and then they kind of like , they're like , oh , like we were all thinking the same thing . What , like , what's the big deal ?

Speaker 2 6:59

yeah , and then they didn't like go anywhere with that and then later they accept . They went from not caring and then fully accepting and then moving on with that . But I do think that Felicia was a witch . I felt that she was either a prophet or a witch with a special power and I feel like they could have done for a two hour movie . They could have done so much more with her character . So much more her character , yeah , so much more .

Speaker 3 7:26

I was disappointed well , yeah , because when they're at the what the like orchestra show , recital or thing , yeah , felicia , she said she made like a negative comment like about him and that's when she fell and like broke her leg .

Speaker 2 7:40

Yeah , the , the curse well , not the curse , but just yeah so .

Speaker 3 7:45

So I was like , oh , she's on to him , and right away he like nipped it in the bud , took her out , yeah and that's what makes me feel like he's the devil .

Speaker 2 7:53

Do you think he's a witch as well ? Or you think he's satan ? I think he's the devil . I think so too . Yeah , um , but it kind of . Do you think that it left it into interpretation ? Yeah , well , like him being the devil yeah yeah , because they never like outright say it yeah , I don't feel like anybody's really addressing it or saying it .

Speaker 3 8:12

The only person that has a hunch is felicia yeah , but I think that's like um , that's what witches do , right ? They like marry the devil , or like is that a cliche , isn't it ?

Speaker 2 8:22

I thought it was , because then I remember in hocus pocus they were just like my save , yeah , yeah , and they were like all all on him , on all his cock . Yeah , and the jealous wife , the wife that didn't care about him . And so that makes sense now , because the storyline starts to move forward that they are going to conceive his evil children and he kept saying it .

Speaker 3 8:43

He kept saying like , oh , women have the real power , because you can create life and whatever , and stuff and it was really working .

Speaker 2 8:49

Suki , yeah , it was like that's what . That's all she needed to hear , the , the moms just wanted to hear a type of appreciation . And what's the other word for it ? Um , appreciation and praise , praise , yeah , for being able to give birth , and she was totally turned on by that yeah , I don't know . Is that ? Does that change anything for you ? Like when people talk about like pregnancy , but like being able to conceive a child , and if that's sexy , does that sexy to you ?

Speaker 3 9:23

uh , no , no , because I think of it more scientifically . I think so too , I'm not thinking it's sexy .

Speaker 2 9:29

If people are talking about the sexiness of being pregnant , I'm like you know nothing about pregnancy . You don't know nothing . All you know is probably what you see in the movies and how sexy it is and whatever comes out in porn .

Speaker 3 9:43

When you look it up ,

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Speaker 3 9:54

I don't think it's sexy . I think it is like a amazing , like feat of the body , or um , yeah , but no , not I wouldn't call it sexy .

Speaker 2 9:58

Yeah , uh , no hate to any to people that are that or find that sexy is just a very like uncommon thing . I know that people have sex still while they're pregnant uh , obviously , but I didn't . I was very like it was different to see that someone was referring to that , that that was referring to that as sexy and it worked yeah .

Speaker 2 10:22

So now I'm on , now I'm in the , I'm on a mission to ask every woman that is that is a mom , will that get you if a man came up to you and was just like glorifying and appreciating , and you know that being able to carry a child is powerful and sexy , like well , because they're saying that's why her husband left her , because she had too many kids .

Speaker 3 10:46

You're the problem . So then that's why he came over and he was just like oh , I think it's hot , you have so many kids when dudes start talking shit about having too many kids and the first thing is that you could get a vasectomy .

Speaker 2 10:58

Yeah , you don't have to wear a condom , you could wear a vasectomy have a vasectomy yeah , you know all this bitching and complaining for someone that doesn't want to get a vasectomy .

Speaker 3 11:06

But it's like okay , like after you have the first kid , like you know how to make a baby , like well there's .

Speaker 2 11:12

There's a thing like there's no such thing as a safe sex . All sex is is like unsafe . It's like the the act is to get pregnant . Yeah , and it just happens to be pleasurable . If it was like zero chance of getting pregnant , then I would say it's a hundred percent for pleasure . But when you have , when the women have an orgasm , they're more likely to conceive .

Speaker 2 11:32

Oh , is that for real , yes , oh , and so to me , yes , in a scientific way it makes sense . There's no such thing as safe sex . You know you're at risk the entire time , the entire way . Pregnancy , you're in sti , and so it's kind of like you could have safer sex . But all sex is not safe crazy yeah , that's just my interpretation of it , because I feel like if you change your perception of it , it's gonna really shift the blame game yeah , type of a thing .

Speaker 2 12:00

You know if , if , if you accept that this act is technically unsafe for either one of those things it could , and because abstinence is the only real way for safe yeah , no sex , that's the only one .

Speaker 3 12:13

Yeah , that's what the church taught me . Yeah , exactly , and how did that go ? See , it doesn't work .

Speaker 2 12:18

It doesn't work . You got to teach the boys to get the vasectomies and wear the condoms and put them on right . Yeah come on and put them on right . Um , what did you think is the message of the movie ?

Speaker 3 12:31

I don't know , I couldn't figure it out . So that's why I was thinking about the whole men versus women thing , because it seemed like their powers grew stronger when they got , when they all started getting together with daryl right . So it's like , as this man is giving them power , but then collectively they defeat him , but then they all still had his baby , so it's like , so he got what he wanted . I don't know . I'm like , who's the winner here ? This movie ?

Speaker 2 12:59

sucked this movie . I was like what is the plot ? Where is this going ? What ? Is happening . So many holes like swiss cheese and and 50 cent . Uh , I love 50 . He's so petty he's the best he's the funniest , but you get what I'm saying yeah it's kind of like .

Speaker 2 13:19

I feel like this movie is like if you like this cast , you're just gonna love this movie because this cast is in there and they're funny . They're the it people , which I think is true . I think for the time that this movie was released , which was 87 , I think all these people were hot shit . They were either hot shit or coming up , and I think jack nicholson and share and michelle pfeiffer were hot shit and I think susan was probably coming up . I could be wrong , wrong , I didn't live .

Speaker 3 13:45

I wasn't a lesbian but , yeah , definitely these were . Yeah , these were like the people of the time .

Speaker 2 13:52

Yeah , so I feel like they heavily like on other films we talked about , they heavily relied on the casting to get the ass in the seats and it probably worked . But I was like I didn't feel any chemistry between any of the girls , did you ?

Speaker 3 14:08

like you , didn't believe that they were friends .

Speaker 2 14:09

No really yeah , I felt like they had zero chemistry and I don't know if it was because , like , like cher's character , alexandra , I get it . She's the angry forward friend . Yeah , right , and I thought she was funny when she and Jack Nicholson were having a . I'm forward , yeah , but I have never had a forward conversation like that , because I have no self-control when I'm insulting you . If I'm insulting you .

Speaker 2 14:37

I'm emotionally charged and I'm ready to fucking go If it escalates . I'm ready to go . But she was like , I understood her character and so did again Jane's . I understood all their roles in their character , but together I feel like it just wasn't there . And I think the writing . I have all my complaints about the writing itself Because the writing didn't have me going anywhere . I was lost the whole time and the lines and the and the cast wasn't enough to carry through the plot and the humor of the film , because I could see where it could be funny . It just wasn't that funny . Um , and I I don't know . It sucks because these act like I like , like Susan Seredon , I like Michelle Pfeiffer yeah , I've only seen Sharon Brulesque and she was a tough bitch there too .

Speaker 3 15:29

Have you seen her in anything else ? She was in Mermaids , where she's the mom , with the Winona Ryder . I haven't seen that one .

Speaker 2 15:35

Is it good ? I liked it , yeah , okay , have you seen her ? Is it Moonlight , moonstruck ? Yeah , she's a feisty bitch in there too . I haven't seen that one . I think I seen a long time ago , so I don't know . If maybe it's share , that's not giving them all like I don't know , you believed it .

Speaker 3 15:56

I know you were raised with this movie . Yeah , now I'm trying to think I I mean , I thought I thought they could be friends . I bought , bought it , okay , because they were all complaining about that perverted guy at the school and that he has a wife and he hits on all of them and then they're having their whatever their weekly night together where they're just hanging out . I don't know , I bought it . Them being friends , I get that . Okay , okay . So it them being friends , I get that .

Speaker 2 16:25

Okay , okay . So it worked for you . It didn't work so much for me , I think . Yeah . That's why I'm trying to figure out , like , what was it missing ? Because I didn't feel emotionally like invested in the characters , which I think when you have a bond like this , a bond of three , there has to be good chemistry or an emotionally charged for us to be right along with them . You know what I mean ? The next movie that we talk about , I feel like solidified that and I don't know what it was , if it was the writing , the acting but there's definite chemistry between all of them with each other , and then in the greater circle .

Speaker 3 17:09

Okay , well , maybe I'm thinking you have a point , because now I'm thinking of other movies where characters do have really good chemistry , and I think , because maybe the actors are actually friends in real life , that might be it too . Because I'm thinking , okay , I'm thinking about three women like charlie's angels , like I know , drew barrymore and cameron diaz . I think they're actually friends . Yeah , they remained friends after the movies were filmed and I'm trying to think now I was like I don't think share is like friends with these people . Or , um , michelle pfeiffer , I don't think she's friends with any of them . So you're making good points right now I'm just saying how it felt .

Speaker 2 17:36

I just didn't feel , but but again , I can't pinpoint it . I just can't describe how I feel , and I felt nothing . I felt nothing because , again , you have a two hour long movie . You have a script that has holes in it but , you want us to invest in these three girls and what's happening with them . Even though it's a comedy , you can still get the audience to be emotionally charged with a comedy because we relate to them yeah and I just feel . Well , obviously I'm not a mom , so I can't relate to that , and I'm not like a , a Jane character .

Speaker 3 18:03

Yeah .

Speaker 2 18:04

I'm more of a share . Alexandra character , yeah , and I was entertained by her , but I also feel like she's the problem , like I think maybe it was her character , but again I can't pinpoint what the fuck , and it's driving me crazy . I've been thinking about it since I watched it and I'm like where I want to like ? This I want to like it Make me like you and it never took me there and I'm so sorry that's okay .

Speaker 2 18:28

I have a lot of two cents about this film , but I will let you have your turn . It's fine .

Speaker 3 18:35

I was going to ask you about Jack Nicholson .

Speaker 2 18:38

What . You couldn't pay me enough money If someone told me , you and your whole family , me , you and your whole family , you , your whole family , brie and her family will be set for life . You just make out with with jack nicholson , which I can't believe . Okay , I will say this , that this man has a good set of teeth . Are they real ? I don't know . Probably not . Probably , yeah , especially now .

Speaker 3 19:02

Probably not but I was . Was he a hot guy one time , One point in time ? Was it the 80s ? I ?

Speaker 2 19:10

think it was the 80s , I don't know , I think it was the 80s . The women didn't have much to say . So you have all these male promoters pumping him the fuck up . He landed Angelica Houston and he would cheat on her , like compulsively cheat on her , and she would forgive him every time , and it wasn't until he had a child as a result of one of these affairs that she finally dumped his ass , which I can't hate on . Finally you dumped him and I'm like still this dude is getting bitches .

Speaker 3 19:41

He has a hot one still I don't know , but I thought it was funny in the movie that they kind of kept saying like , oh well , he's not the most attractive , or so he is not attractive what the fuck do you mean ? Or even in the scene where the three of them are like conjuring him up and they're like just talking about what their ideal man would be . I think one of them said they're like , oh well , charming , but not too like overly handsome or something , but they referenced it a few times yeah , yeah , not good looking , that was so funny .

Speaker 2 20:11

That's the comedy in it , right ? Yeah , the comedy . So I think it would have been better if they did cast a hot guy . Yeah I think it still would have been . I think it would have been better if they casted a hot guy , because that's the whole thing about being the devil To be enticing , to be persuasive , to tempt you and they've referenced temptation multiple times in this film and it made sense , because that's the whole thing , I'm sorry . So I conjured up a few of the 80s hotties .

Speaker 3 20:39

You tell me , let's hear it .

Speaker 2 20:41

No specific order , but you're going to hear my favorite . What ? Let's hear it . Okay , no specific order , but you're gonna hear my favorite . What do you think about rob low 80s ?

Speaker 3 20:57

rob , yes , as a total hottie seductive . Okay , so rob , low's a girl . Yeah , hear me out keanu reeves . He's too young , 80s keanu reeves , he's too young . You don't think that's like the whole thing . I think it's weird because they're like moms in the movie . There's young moms girl .

Speaker 2 21:07

Well , maybe not suki . Yeah , she had like five of them okay , so a little too young . I've mentioned this one before . Patrick swayze just put him in everything .

Speaker 3 21:20

Why not ? He's older ? Yeah , he got the moves he does . You know , he would have done it with a good job .

Speaker 2 21:22

He's older . Yeah , he got the moves he does . You know , he would have been tanned up and buttered up I have popcorn up in there , there you go and he would have

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Speaker 2 21:32

done the dance moves , all of them . I would have liked to see all of them in bed with him , patrick Swayze Rather than her . All right , this one's a unique one . Unique when my my boyfriend brought this one up and I I have to . So , first of all , I want to say that I think it's because it was three people that he slept with that it was giving me rockery horror picture vibes okay , maybe it's I mean because of susan right yeah , maybe , who knows ?

Speaker 2 21:52

but that wasn't my initial reason . It was when I seen the girls in bed all three of them the laundry , yeah , yeah that gave me , and then it's one person sleeping fucking these three people which made me reminded me hefner , is that who you're gonna say he ?

Speaker 2 22:05

wishes . That guy lived his dream and it wasn't what he thought it was gonna be . All right , david bowie . Oh yeah , I could see that I could like a very mysterious yeah , very like um , and I think he would have won all of them over . Yeah , without hesitation , without anything , he just has to stand there , look , just look , and then maybe a touch and then they're impregnated .

Speaker 3 22:31

There you go , just wear those tight pants from labyrinth .

Speaker 2 22:35

So I know all of these , which one do you think would have made like a better ?

Speaker 3 22:40

I think , yeah , david bowie , that's . I think that's my top choice . I think I'm going with rob low , but yeah , david bowie .

Speaker 2 22:44

I think that's my top choice . I think I'm going with Rob Lowe , rob Lowe , yeah , david Bowie or Rob Lowe . But you get what I'm saying . Like it would have worked if you would have had a hot , a hot guy .

Speaker 3 22:51

And I still think it would have been funny . I think it was funny when he's trying to seduce Cher .

Speaker 2 23:06

He takes his shirt off and he's like what is this ? And I think maybe people were just like yeah , he's Okay . You know how , sometimes Take someone as I wouldn't say Jack Black , I would say someone like Will Ferrell , okay , who can totally like you know , he was in his chonies and again , to reference , tell the bigger night and people find that hilarious women , some women are genuinely attracted to that man and I think it's the confidence he just has a odd stomach shape , like it goes well .

Speaker 2 23:32

Yeah , he like goes in and out like I don't know it's beer belly recovery so I think that's what maybe people of the 80s liked about jack nicholson that maybe he was confident and he pulled it off and I think it was kind of short too , like share is definitely taller than him .

Speaker 2 23:51

Yeah , everyone's taller than jack nicholson . What the fuck , you're taller than jack nicholson . And at one point not I'm not trying to shame him , but it was just the dirtiness that he had and like the oiliness in his hair and still , speaking very clearly , I confused him for a second with danny devito , which I almost never do , because it was giving me the penguin vibes . Yeah , so I was like what , what , who ? Who am I looking at right now ? Um , but I think that's why they casted him . They wanted a comedic actor and then maybe they think he could have pulled it off with his confidence , but it wasn't doing anything for me .

Speaker 3 24:28

Well , I think he pulled off , like at the end when he starts like transforming and they're fighting . Yes , that was good , that was . I think that was the best . His acting like highlight was right there and I think they could have done more with that .

Speaker 2 24:40

Yeah , for this movie to be two hours . You could have had them have a fight . You could have had Felicia , yeah .

Speaker 3 24:47

He could have fought other people in the town .

Speaker 2 24:49

Yeah , I thought that this is where I thought it was going to go . I thought he was going to go over there and fight the girls the three of them I thought Felicia was was gonna come and join the fight even though she had no idea , which the whole time she has no idea what she's doing . Yeah , everything entirely is through her gut feeling . So I thought she was gonna come through not knowing what to do in her mind , but her gut feeling knowing of what to do when she got there yeah and it failed it all failed and , and even though the fight between the four of them it could have been more , it left me wanting more at the .

Speaker 3 25:24

I feel like that was the climax of the whole film and it did not land but you know it was a good scene when , um , he like I don't know what he does , he curses them or whatever . So then sookie's in the hospital , like feeling all this pain , no , and then share goes to the house and she's trying to ask , like tell him to stop , and he was like all you have to do is kiss and make up , and she's like so like repulsed by him and I was like I believe it because he's so ugly .

Speaker 2 25:53

I was right there with you , share , I was right there with you and , um , I just kept thinking all these things like , but by her reaction alone , because I feel like she's the one that really didn't want to fuck him .

Speaker 3 26:08

Yeah , jane , I believe , wanted to jane was a whole new woman after she fucked him I was , she probably finally had an orgasm for the first time and she thinks that only this man can make her orgasm . You know which is sad they were making sweet music .

Speaker 2 26:23

Yeah , right , yeah seriously scared that other dude straight out of her room . Um , and you know suki . Suki was all in for it . Yeah , so I think that was funny . Yeah , that was funny . That share's only person that was like genuinely repulsed and is with the rest of us in the seriousness of what this is , because the other one is just like went live for this man yeah .

Speaker 3 26:46

Oh , that's sookie too . I think she was the one like oh , you're gonna seduce me now , like she was ready for it .

Speaker 2 26:51

Yeah she's a horn dog with all those kisses . That's what it was I know she was ready . She was waiting for some new car , the jack nicholson car . I don't know why , but whatever .

Speaker 3 27:03

And when he first kisses um alexandra like , it almost looks like they're not kissing yeah , right , because I think they're like it's kind of like their arm is like high in the way or something like .

Speaker 2 27:14

Yeah , they don't really , it looks like they're pressed like doing a big hug , yeah , and they're moving around to make it look like they're making out , which I just feel , which this has recently come to surface with the recent film that had . What was the new movie that everyone's talking shit about ? Which one would you people ?

Speaker 3 27:29

oh yeah , oh yeah with the cgi kiss , oh my god , it's called acting .

Speaker 2 27:34

My friends , it's called acting , and I just feel like there's other ways to go around that , but not particularly that scene yeah but like the guy that plays thor , like if the actor's back is going to be to the actress's back . He asked for it to be his wife . Yeah , and then he does kiss her and we don't even tell the difference , like I couldn't tell the difference until he said something yeah , so I feel like they could have like they usually could .

Speaker 3 28:00

They could put something blocking it like they usually like put like a , a wall or a divider , a window , the camera moving .

Speaker 2 28:08

Yeah , I'm with you , girl , I'm , I'm so fucking with you . They could have done anything besides that . I guess it's the technology of the time , right ?

Speaker 3 28:15

yeah , they could have had a sit-in I wonder if if shara really was just like , I'm not gonna kiss this man shara and I are more alike than I thought .

Speaker 2 28:28

But the second kiss , the one you're referencing , like that one was looked obvious . But I would have . I probably would have put it in my contract like I'm not kissing , I'm gonna need a stunt double to get a kissing double to kiss that man and , um , I'll get really close to his face , but that's it . But he better not kiss me , and if he kisses me , y'all getting charged , yeah , girl . So so much , so so much . What other two cents you got ?

Speaker 3 28:53

well , I just have a fun fact about the violin . Oh yeah , lay it on me so you know how people like shred on the guitar . So the first person to ever shred actually shredded on the violin , and legend has it that he sold his soul to the devil to be this great musician . I wrote his name . It's like Italian or something Niccolo Pagani .

Speaker 2 29:19

Perfect , it's like italian or something , nicolo but johnny perfect , you got it , and gesture and everything , um , I believe that , well , this is what I like about it that there are some like references in the world building of that . So I didn't know that but that makes sense .

Speaker 3 29:35

So he wrote so then , yeah , so daryl rolls up with his violin and I'm like it's the devil there , you go see and that's why I think it .

Speaker 2 29:41

I believe it was to be the devil um the snakes as well . What else um ? Oh yeah , when he like hurts . Basically felicia right yeah , I was like only who else would give a shit ?

Speaker 3 29:53

yeah , about it and then they refer the house , the mansion that he buys , one of the girls references it and they're like , oh well , they used to burn witches in there .

Speaker 2 30:04

Yeah , someone was really pissed about it being sold .

Speaker 3 30:06

Was it Felicia ? Yeah , it was Felicia . She was upset because it was like a historic landmark yeah , I get that .

Speaker 2 30:12

I would be upset too , but now they know how it feels .

Speaker 3 30:18

Oh , another thing I was going to say was that everyone is just so thin like no body , shape , nothing , yeah but they didn't look like anorexic , like they just looked , I don't know petite , petite , yeah , slender . But even like the background actors , like when um jane goes like shopping at the grocery store , like even all the women who are like hating on her , they're like all super thin too . Yeah , it was crazy , yeah , and I was just like what the hell , dude , it was a different time then yeah I feel like the average person isn't even that slender anymore .

Speaker 2 30:50

Yeah , that's insane , not at all . I feel like if people are that slender , they're gonna like under . Like what do you call it um ? It's like they stopped getting their period maybe I don't know , just like um , they're gonna tell them that they're underweight . Oh , yeah , that then , or who knows , you know , the bmi scale is full of shit . But yeah , everybody is a different time than like I'm so slender . The share body right like tall slim and slender .

Speaker 2 31:15

She said I think we're the same height and I'm like I could never be that slender like not even if I tried . I don't care , though I don't care . Skinny too being that thin is not in .

Speaker 3 31:26

Yeah , you know being uh the bbls are still in , yeah , but and I also like that they were all uh different colors . Oh , the typical trio , the trio , uh , the black , white and red , yeah , so I like that . And then I think three , isn't that like a witchy number ? Trinity the holy , that's what I was , that's what I always get the holy trinity , that's why there's always three um , but I think so .

Speaker 2 31:52

And then the three wise men , oh yeah . So I always feel like the trinity is like a very heavy , heavily influenced when it comes to religion and like things mystical because of that , because of the Bible . I could be wrong , though , and I also feel like three is a good number .

Speaker 3 32:07

Yeah , it's like a nice round number .

Speaker 2 32:08

Yeah , but I still would have liked more from Felicia . It would have made sense to me .

Speaker 2 32:12

It would have made sense that she was . I also was like , oh , she's probably going to be like an angel . Oh , yeah , because I always go back to Constantine like half-breed , because I'm like we still don't know what this guy is Like again , like they never really , and then the girls didn't know what they were . So it kind of was like leaving a lot of it was leading my imagination to all things in the air . Yeah , and then so , right , clyde kills Felicia , right , yeah , I'm pretty sure that's what happened . He killed her , freaking her out with that projectile vomiting which looked hella real . I couldn't watch it .

Speaker 2 32:45

Yeah , being in the healthcare profession , I've seen a lot of people throw up , but that one , what was it ? Cherries , yeah , that was nauseating . And you know what I don't like saliva , like that's where I draw the line . Like babies barely get the past . Dogs will get the past more than a baby , and I think it's because it's human and like not human . And then I don't know , but yeah , it , that's one of the things that does gross me out . But I mean , like I'm not gonna be like , oh , get your baby away from me why not ?

Speaker 2 33:14

I say it all the time because people get so offended by that and then I feel bad . It's a tiny baby and then the dog . I don't get mad at the dogs either , because the dogs just want to play with me they love me unlike the baby , the baby don't want to play with me . I always take it personal , like I nauseated that baby the baby's sick of me now it's time for the reverse Bechdel test so this one , would it be the bechdel or the reverse bechdel ?

Speaker 3 33:51

oh shoot it would be the reverse . All right , dang it . I looked at the wrong thing you want to take a second or you want to Well , I don't know . I'm just going to assume that it fails .

Speaker 2 34:06

I think it would fail too , because they're always talking about Daryl anyway . Yeah , this is going to be an assumed fail . Yeah , my bad . All right , everyone . Now it's time for our newest segment , popcorn or Colonel . You know how sometimes we think we're just not the audience for this . Well , we turned it into a metric where we judge the accessibility of the movie .

Speaker 3 34:40

Yeah , so we're going to look at the characters in the plot to see how relatable they are to a general audience or to a specific audience . So if we think the movie can relate to a lot of people , it's a popcorn so you could pass it around and share it with the whole family . But if it's for a more specific audience , then it's a kernel .

Speaker 2 34:51

Some people like it , some people spit it back okay , so would you say that I feel like there's . Okay , so would you say that I feel like there's four main characters here . I don't feel like there was one that had more lines than the other , did you , no ? So we're going to go with four main characters . Daryl , Alexandra , Jane and Suki Are the main characters relatable .

Speaker 3 35:17

I think the women are . What did you relate about them ? They're sitting around talking about men . Okay , I'll give you that one .

Speaker 2 35:27

So I was like no , they're not , but you're right .

Speaker 3 35:30

Are they attractive ? The three women ? Yeah , especially at the end .

Speaker 2 35:35

I only liked Michelle Pfeiffer and Cher , I didn't think that this movie did a lot for susan seredon .

Speaker 3 35:43

Yeah , I think they fucked her up .

Speaker 2 35:44

I don't know if it was the lighting , the makeup it looked like she had like bags under her eyes . Yes , and I didn't like . Were they trying to go for the tired look is my question . You know what I mean tired of that shit .

Speaker 3 35:56

I don't fucking know she's banging daryl day and night .

Speaker 2 36:00

Yeah , really so we'll just go with yes , because there's some people that we like . Here's some people that we don't are they funny , the main characters ?

Speaker 3 36:09

I think , yeah , I think shara was the funniest out of all . When they're like getting ready to leave and then , um , who is it ? Sookie is picking her up and she's like , oh , you're not dressed . And share's like I'm not naked I know that bitch was .

Speaker 2 36:23

I told you that girl got an orgasm yeah just loosened up and had a whole new look of life . Yeah , are the main characters charming ? Did you feel charmed by any of these characters ? I feel like I was only charmed by share , and I just don't think that's enough yeah , I give it , yeah , you got four people .

Speaker 3 36:43

It has to be at least two , yeah yeah , I was gonna say just share , but I feel like the other two women that was their character to be like more timid , so I guess okay , so I'll say no same here .

Speaker 2 36:58

Do they invoke sympathy or empathy ? Not in me . I feel like if Felicia was in there , yeah .

Speaker 3 37:07

Yeah , but no , not to me , no .

Speaker 2 37:09

Regarding the movie or the plot , are there stakes ? Yes , yeah , I thought they were Pregnancy by devil . Yeah , definitely . Are the characters in jeopardy ? Yeah , they became to be yeah . Is the conflict interesting ? And so what would you say ? The conflict was being pregnant by the devil .

Speaker 3 37:30

That's what I was trying to figure out . What's the main conflict ? I was thinking they get in this relationship and now they're trying to get out . That's what I kind of thought the conflict was trying to get away from daryl but he wouldn't like let them go and see because , like I put no , because , like I wasn't sure , it left very much to interpretation of the conflict .

Speaker 2 37:52

Yeah , like , what is the conflict ? The devil which we haven't confirmed as a devil , um , but just for the sake of of the segment , what do you think the conflict is ? They're trying to get away from a man they don't want to be with . That . Yeah , that's what I thought they're trying to get away from men that they don't want to be with and they're having a hard time . Have you ever been in that situation ? You just can't shake a dude .

Speaker 3 38:18

For how long ?

Practical Magic Introduction

Speaker 3 38:23

I mean two hours . I couldn't shake a dude for two hours . Yeah , that's happened .

Speaker 2 38:28

Was that interesting to you ? Does this resonate to you ? Was that conflict interesting to you ?

Speaker 3 38:33

No , um , I guess no . What was the interesting thing about the movie was not the conflict , right ?

Speaker 2 38:44

that's what I'm realizing too like I didn't think it was a conflict . I think it was just so much of the mystery of like what is going on yeah like the conflict that they're trying to get away from him is not interesting to me . It was more like who are these girls ?

Speaker 3 38:57

who's ? Felicia what is happening , like them discovering their powers , like that was more interesting .

Speaker 2 39:02

Yes , are they or are they not witches ? Um , I think it would have been more interesting too , if they all like increasingly became more and more pregnant throughout this two-hour film .

Speaker 3 39:11

You know what I mean ? Yeah , supernatural type of shit um , because it's a supernatural .

Speaker 2 39:16

But yeah , I'm gonna go with a no no , is the topic relevant ? Like , is the topic getting away from shaking a dude ?

Speaker 3 39:25

is it ? Yeah , again , like I don't know what the topic is , I don't know what the point of the movie is like is ? The topic I don't know is the topic relevant what is the topic ?

Speaker 2 39:38

I'm . That's why I'm like I has . I'm going with the no because I can't go . It's looking like a kernel , yeah , and I'm so sorry . I was very eager to watch this movie and I'm just so disappointed in it . As far as the ratings , the tomato meter out of 92 reviews is 66% . Do you know how much percentage it has to be ? Percentage you have to reach to be certified fresh ? I think it's 70 . I think it's 72 , so it barely missed the mark . Maybe two more reviews would have gotten you there .

Speaker 2 40:10

An audience score of over 50,000 ratings gives it a 62% . What do you give this film ? Please don't let me influence you . Please don't let me influence you . Please don't let me influence you .

Speaker 3 40:23

Well , I'm sad because I thought I liked this movie and then , I guess because I've seen it so many times , I was just like , oh yeah , and then I started watching it and I was like , hmm , you know what happens .

Speaker 2 40:40

It's the nostalgia , yeah , that's what it's . It's the nostalgia , yeah , that's what it is . And that's why I'm like don't , don't let my influence , as a person that hasn't watched this movie , like shit on your rating , because I feel like that's important too . If it's nostalgic , I don't know if that influences your rating or not .

Speaker 3 40:53

That's why I'm like yeah , but just like watching it , like I like it's yeah , it's hard to put your finger on , because I'm like what is ? What is the topic ? What is this movie about ? Like who , and then at the end , like who wins the , the women or the devil ? So , yeah , I just couldn't .

Speaker 2 41:09

It's too ambiguous , like yeah , and I gotta say I was very surprised . The distributor of this film is warner brothers . Warner brothers went on to distribute a few of the batman films , didn't they produce Harry Potter ? Yeah , you see , what I'm saying , like this is very surprising from this distributor .

Speaker 3 41:27

Yeah , and then it was too long . I thought they could totally just cut the tennis scene . That was like pointless . But I gave it a 7 out of 10 . All right , Very generous .

Speaker 2 41:40

I gave this a 2 out of 10 . A 2 ? A 7 out of 10 ? All right , very generous , I gave this a 2 out of 10 a 2 , but I feel I feel like yours is more a more nostalgic for you like I feel like you can . You probably sat with your family and laughed throughout this entire movie , yeah , and I watched this movie stoned , and you still didn't like it . Well , these are my points . The writing could have been better . You had so much to like confirm whether who he was . Who are these girls ?

Speaker 3 42:09

that's my two cents well , I'm sad you didn't like it .

Speaker 2 42:12

That's okay , it's okay I will re-watch it and imagine roblo sexy roblo next up for review practical magic sally and jillian owens , born into a magical family , have mostly avoided witchcraft themselves .

Speaker 3 42:30

But when jillian's vicious boyfriend , jimmy angelove , dies unexpectedly , the owens sisters give themselves a crash course in hard magic , with policeman gary growing suspicious . The girl struggled to resurrect angelo and unwittingly inject his corpse with an evil spirit that threatens the end to end their family line this movie is rated pg-13 .

Speaker 2 42:55

It's considered a comedy , drama . Dramedy , if you will it .

Speaker 2 43:00

It's directed by Griffin Doon . He's done more work as an actor . You've seen Famous . He played Andrew in the film . Oh , no , I'm confusing that with Almost Famous . Never mind , he comes out in Famous as an actor . He comes out in Warning Parental Advisory , also as an actor , and then 40 Days and 40 Nights as an actor , and that one was released in 2002 and so this movie was in 98 . So I'm not sure if he started off with directing and then later did acting more . You have a few writers here . You have Alice Hoffman I was only able to find her as credited um with this project . Uh , robin swickord , who wrote little women , the 94 release and the 2019 release . Okay , she wrote and produced the perez family . I don't know if you're familiar with that project . No , they wrote Matilda . Ooh , they wrote Memoirs of a Geisha . They wrote and directed the Jane Austen Club .

Speaker 3 44:08

I kind of think this is a woman .

Speaker 2 44:10

Yeah , and that's more of their , like , notable work . We also have Akiva Goldsman . They wrote Batman Forever Ooh Okay , they also wrote Batman Forever Ooh okay . They also wrote Batman and Robin , which was the one with George Clooney . No , I think it's Batman and Robin . I-robot oh , I like I-Robot Cinderella man . Have you seen that one ?

Speaker 3 44:37

No , the boxer . Yeah , that's what it was , yeah .

Speaker 2 44:41

They also wrote the Da Vinci Code and they wrote I Am Legend . Last writer is Adam Brooks . They are credited as the director and writer for the Invisible Circus , the writer of Wimbledon . I think that was with Kirsten Dunst and I liked it as a kid , but I don't think as an adult I would like it . I think I was just a Kirsten Dunst fan , definitely . Maybe Isn't that with the Ryan Reynolds ? I think so . They wrote and directed that . And then get this this man appears to be a white man .

Speaker 2 45:15

He could be a POC in passing . I don't know Adam Brooks , I don't know , but he went on to write Napoli Ever After he was one of the writers . Because when I seen that I was like no , not another white man with a POC movie .

Speaker 2 45:31

Interesting , but he is , he is , he is , he is . So that's them , okay . This movie was released in October of 1998 . Box Office Gross USA was was 46.8 million , almost two hours long , an hour and 45 minutes . Also by Warner Brothers , we have Sandra Bullock as Sally , nicole Kidman as Jillian right , stalker Channing as Aunt Frances , diane Wiest West as Aunt Jet . Uh , stalker channing as aunt francis , diane weest west as aunt jet and gorgon this , this , I don't know this nick , thank you as jimmy angelove . And so there's just well , since we're on the topic of of witches and like what's a cliche or what's a folklore ? Do you think that it's a cliche or folklore that witches are cursed because of a resurrection spell ?

Speaker 3 46:30

Resurrection ? I have not heard of that , because it comes out in Beautiful Creatures .

Speaker 2 46:35

I haven't seen that . That's a cheesy movie . I do not recommend that you watch it . Leave that movie alone . Not good , jeremy Irons , come out watch it . Leave that movie alone . Not good , jeremy Irons come out in that . Yeah got me Love that man . That guy could have been fucking Daryl in Witches of East Weekend I probably would have he nailed it ?

Speaker 2 46:54

He could have . I would have been all on board , just the voice , alone the voice . If he would have been topless with that same gut , I would probably still be like let's go , let's go , let's do this . You sold me . Say less , okay , well , that's , that's something that I wanted to know . Um , if it was a cliche or not . Uh , can we talk about casting real quick ? Did you care anything about this casting ?

Speaker 3 47:18

I thought they were like peak hotness .

Speaker 2 47:21

Sandra bullock and nicole kidman they were like super hot I am not a person that typically finds sandra bullock as attractive , even in even in miss congeniality like I have to like root for her . She's not my go-to white woman yeah , I mean me neither but , rocky .

Speaker 3 47:38

Yeah , I don't know she was working the magic . She sure was . I don't know if it was the waves in the in her hair .

Speaker 2 47:45

I don't know if it was her tight clothes . She was killing it . Nicole kidman . I had never had a crush on nicole kidman , yeah me neither , but I know you've seen her moulin rouge right is she still hot in moulin rouge ?

Speaker 3 47:56

oh , that was more um , she was too much with the hair costumes and makeup and makeup Like it was too distracting .

Speaker 2 48:02

I get that I get that . Yeah , yeah , here . It was just like you know what they call it , like that 90s natural beauty . Yeah , yeah , they were both at it . Yeah , I was like Nicole Kidman . I can't keep my eyes off of you . I know it's like no wonder Tom Cruise's married you diane weist , when I think I'm a fan . She keeps coming up . I , I am sold . Yeah , I am sold .

Speaker 3 48:26

she comes out in she was in lost boys that we did last year , lost boys , yeah , um , edwards is your hands .

Speaker 2 48:33

That's the one I was looking for . Um , we did a recent one . I am sam .

Speaker 1 48:38

Yeah , she's she's taking me there , girl . Yeah , and we haven't reviewed .

Speaker 2 48:42

I care a lot , but she's kicking ass in there too . But she's another person that I'm like . She has always been old

Sister Bonds and Family Curses

Speaker 2 48:48

as well .

Speaker 3 48:49

And I feel sad .

Speaker 2 48:51

The clock is ticking for her and I just want to see more movies with her , and so that's probably what I'm going to . We should probably do a spotlight episode on her , we should ? She's kicking ass , she is Good . Okay , so we're all on board with the casting . So this movie talks about domestic violence . Domestic violence is very common . A lot of people are affected by it , either directly or through secondhand . I hope you've never been in that situation , but if you were to have been , who would you call to pick ?

Speaker 3 49:23

up . Shout out to my sister Joelle oh yeah , she's down , she is down and she will come get me . And then she will do a lot more than that . But yeah , I know I like her , she'll come save the . But yeah , I know she'll , I like her , she'll come save the day .

Speaker 2 49:44

Yeah , I like her , I fuck with her .

Speaker 3 49:46

I'll just be like I'm going to go over here , you do what you do and don't tell me about it . Do your big sister stuff , yeah , and then we're good , that's funny .

Speaker 2 49:55

I will call my aunt Elvira . We're the same age . Shout out to my tia , elvira she know how to do a few things and she's smaller than me . She's probably your height and I feel like I can defend myself pretty well , but if I'm in a pickle like that , she's definitely the person I would call . Definitely want to call someone that's going to be on your side and do a few things .

Speaker 3 50:16

you don't want to repeat You'd have to call someone you're a little afraid of ?

Speaker 2 50:20

Yeah , to repeat you , you'd have to call someone you're a little afraid of . Yeah , you know , because you know where they can take it . Yeah and uh , well , I'm just happy that we both have someone that we can call and we're both in the clear of each other .

Speaker 3 50:30

I won't put you in the danger ?

Speaker 2 50:33

not this ass girl , not this ass . I'm just kidding . Who would you call to in specific ? Who would you call to help a dead body hide a dead body um ? Who would you call to in specific ? Who would you call to help a dead body hide a dead um ?

Speaker 3 50:44

who would I call because that's one of the things they have here , yeah they're hiding a dead body , who would I call ? Yeah again , it would either one my sister joelle , my sister danny . I think both of them would they would together , together , they would find together yeah that's hilarious .

Speaker 2 50:59

I think you're very clever , so I would call me . Yeah , let's hide this body . I'll be like . You need to help me together . Yeah , that's hilarious .

Speaker 3 51:01

I think you're very clever , so I would call you yeah , let's hide this body .

Speaker 2 51:04

I'll be like . You need to help me with all of your college knowledge , because I will . I . This is why I don't like to lie , because when people corner me like I'm , one of those stuttering memes makes me nervous I'm already formulating a plan right now there you go . That's what I need . I'll be the muscle you be the brain , there we go .

Speaker 2 51:26

So this movie also has like a few holes in it . Well , maybe very few , very , very much less holes in it . So I was confused . At the part where they resurrected him only to kill him again and then bury him , what was the importance or the plot , what was the importance to the storyline that he died twice , is there ? A cliche is there anything at all ? It's a part of the curse and I missed it .

Speaker 3 51:53

Definitely the first time he died . I think they could have just called the they could have left him somewhere . Or they could have just called the they could have left him somewhere . Or they could have just called the cops . Like I feel there was no need to bring him back .

Speaker 2 52:07

But I agree with you , you were going to bury his ass anyway . Yeah , you should have just killed him once . And then I feel so I was like you're an idiot and I think I don't know if there was like a symbolism to that , like if you go back to your abuser that they're just gonna . It's a , it's a cycle . So they're just gonna beat you again so I don't know if there was a symbolism to that .

Speaker 3 52:25

Maybe it's a dv message I'm watching well , well , because I thought they were dumb , because they they said it themselves like , oh , if we resurrect him , he's gonna come back as something dark and evil and whatever . And then , um , the sister jillian , she's like , well , he's already like dark and evil . So I think I don't know what their plan was , but I think he startled them when he came back and he was like choking her out like right away . So I think killing him the second time was an accident or like I don't think that was part of the plan . Right , they didn't do it just to kill him again .

Speaker 2 52:55

I was like the whole , both times were an accident , times were an accident . Yeah , they didn't mean to kill him , to sleep , right . Yeah , that's what happened . They just wanted him to knock out . Yeah , then he od . And then they knocked him out because she was again choking her sister . Yeah , yeah , I was like that could have been left out . I mean , I guess they were trying to emphasize how he really is evil , right , yeah , dead or alive , which I felt is just unnecessary to the plot line it .

Speaker 3 53:21

Yeah , it seemed like a cheat , like they just needed . They needed a reason for the police to come right . So I feel like that was like okay , well , they're looking for the dead body , or whatever .

Speaker 2 53:31

I feel like they were gonna do that anyway because they had the car , oh yeah . You know , yeah , I don't know that wasn't . I felt like when you have a movie that's this , well , it's not that long , it's an hour and 45 minutes . Make good use of the time . Yeah , you know what I mean For story development .

Speaker 3 53:52

And that kind of drives me crazy . When you have characters in movies and they make stupid decisions , I'm like , can you just think , turn your brain on a little bit ?

Speaker 2 54:00

I'm here to be entertained , I'll be back to reality where yeah , I would probably do that yeah , I don't know .

Speaker 2 54:08

Um , do you think that they beat the curse at the end ? I don't know . So in the end , they admit to the , the people of the town , that they are witches and they invite them for , like a seance , yeah Right . And so they all get together . They put Jillian slash Jimmy in the circle of rooms and they try to hex him out of her , but then , ultimately , the only thing that separates them is Sally's blood . And I don't think it was a pact , because a blood pact is when you're both cut . Then you make a promise . Right , they kind of did so . But a blood pact is when you make blood , when you use blood and make a promise .

Speaker 3 54:54

So they didn't make a promise . Yeah , because she was leaving in the window with her boyfriend . And then Sally's like oh , I feel like I'm never going to see you again . And then Jillian leaving in the window with her boyfriend and then sally's like oh , I feel like I'm never gonna see you again . And then jillian's like oh , no , we're gonna grow old together . And then that's when they cut their hands and they're like that was the first pack , that was the first one , yeah , yeah .

Speaker 2 55:08

So the second one , where sally uses her blood to bring back jillian , that's all she did , right ?

Speaker 3 55:15

that's all they did . Yeah , they just put their hands together . So it wasn't a blood pact , it was just like blood reference . I don't know part of the spell I thought it was a pact , but then I was like I didn't hear anything , it just seemed well , I just felt like , oh , it was their like sisterly love bond , yeah the kind of symbolism yeah it didn't take me there , did it take you there ?

Speaker 2 55:35

that , that particular , because that's what separates them , that's what gets the ball rolling it did .

Speaker 3 55:43

It reminded me of that scene in harry potter where voldemort goes inside harry's body and then harry has all those flashbacks of his friends and he was like , oh , I feel sad for you because you'll never know like love and happiness and friendship in the last film when they're like fusing together .

Speaker 3 55:58

Yeah so that's what kenny reminded me of . So that's when , like the two sisters , they put their hands together and sally's like did she say , like stay with me , or like don't let him take you , or something , something like that , something like that , yeah , so I was just like , okay , like I , yeah , I was into it okay , um , it just like confused me .

Speaker 2 56:16

I was like was it a pact , was it ? But now I ? It was the symbolism of their closeness and their love that brought her sister back , got it Okay . So back to the question . Did you think that they beat the curse at the end , at the end ?

Speaker 3 56:31

I felt like it was a workaround Her husband already died , so her second husband's not going to die . That's how I kind of felt like , oh , that's the loophole , like she was cursed already , so it's not gonna happen again right and I kind of felt like him dying at the hands of these women was just the way that he died .

Speaker 2 56:53

Yeah , because that's part of the curse the person that you love but I guess that's not how it went down , because she didn't hear any of the ribbits . What is it the beetle ? Yeah , because when it's the how it went down , because she didn't hear any of the ribbits .

Speaker 3 57:01

What is it ? The ?

Speaker 2 57:02

beetle ? Yeah , because when it's the beetle , it's indication that the time is near . Yeah , so maybe not . Huh , well , he was gonna die anyway .

Speaker 3 57:11

But I don't think she really loves Jimmy .

Speaker 2 57:14

You know what I agree with you and you know what I think it was . I don't think that she loved him . I think that she loved him . I think that she , that they were both like obsessed with each other because the way she describes him yeah , with the whole cowboy , what did ? She say cowboy , motorcycle , gothic cowboy or something . Yeah , she

Domestic Violence and Resurrection

Speaker 2 57:32

was into it and I'm sure when I think for a lot of people when they hear like an accent , they're like totally soon .

Speaker 3 57:38

Yeah , that's me and I think yeah , spanish accent got you soon , yeah and I think that's what happened with her .

Speaker 2 57:45

So I too was just like , as her older , her older sister should have been like you're just obsessing again , like yeah , you know , he's just your new toy . Yeah , it's like play with them and move on yeah , you're a hottie play with them . And move on , yeah , plenty of fish in the sea for people like us is what I would have told her .

Speaker 3 58:00

Yeah , a scene that I thought was funny . When isn't um , jillian's trying to not jillian , uh , the other one , sally , I guess when the the dead body is like haunting them and she gets all frustrated . She goes into the rose garden , she's trying to cut the roses and they keep growing back . I actually had roses at my house and I was trying to like , get rid of them and those motherfuckers would keep coming back , yeah , and I was just like die you stupid roses .

Speaker 3 58:27

So you're pruning the bush and hoping that the roses wouldn't come up , but you were just making them grow more I know I dug out , I like dug all around the roots and I like pulled the whole like thing out , oh my god . And then I guess I must have missed or dropped a leaf or I don't know what . But then it's it started like growing again and like over I swear , like one day it was empty and then the next day it's like super tall , like this stupid little sprout . No way , I probably not , but it felt that way , I believe you , though .

Speaker 3 59:00

I was just like ah , these roses won't die and it was in the same spot .

Speaker 2 59:04

You say , yeah , damn , that's crazy . Did when you dug it up ? Was there more roots ?

Speaker 3 59:10

that one ? No , I that one , I just like pulled I just like grabbed it and pulled it .

Speaker 3 59:15

The last lonely rose but I thought that was . But I was like I feel you because these roses . I thought it was funny . Oh , I was gonna say something too like . Um , I feel like when people watch movies , they , I guess like in romantic scenes , they're like , oh , I wish like a man would do that to me or like serenade me or whatever . But I was like watching this and I was like man , I was like I wish someone would make me midnight margaritas they were cute , they were super cute um .

Speaker 3 59:44

So I really liked all the women in the movie and I felt like it was a really good um . I thought it was really good female representation , like I really liked all the female characters me too but the men in the movie like totally sucked .

Speaker 3 59:57

Like so sally's husband , he was cute , but like he dies and I'm not sad about it because , like I felt like we didn't really get to know him , yeah , we weren't emotionally invested , yeah . And then jimmy I thought he was handsome too and I wish they would have gone more into his character . I like villains right right and then um . But then the stupid , the sheriff . I was just like this guy's ugly and boring . I was like who ?

Speaker 2 1:00:22

casted this guy yeah I should have made a 90s list . I know the hotties because I too was like I get it . He's just like a salt of the hurt the earth , yeah , like heartwarming type of guy . Matthew mcconaughey they could have got him . Yeah , they really could have . Honestly , anybody , anybody , anybody .

Speaker 3 1:00:40

Kiano anybody , somebody , anybody , anybody . Yeah , he was not good looking at all and then he . Then they were talking about like , oh well , if I stay here , is it because of the spell , or are we really in love ?

Speaker 2 1:00:53

and I'm like it's the spell because no one is in love with this man and I was like , and then I'm glad you brought that up because I appreciate that they address that the love between them is is magic like literal is a literal spell , like it's not authentic .

Speaker 2 1:01:09

And the fact that he didn't believe it I also felt was like you know , because ? Because I guarantee you that if they didn't address it in the movie , I would have been like we would have asked yeah , do they love each other or not ? Is it real or not ? And it's very much and I feel bad for him . I was like he didn't , he wasn't freed like he says he's here a free will yeah but that's not true and sally knows that .

Speaker 2 1:01:32

All the girls know that , you know , and I don't think that she should be held responsible as a child for doing something . That child , that children do they say , do they say and do things without the understanding of the consequences of them . And but now that she's an adult , I think that she needs to assume responsibility and should have fixed that . But how do you fix that ?

Speaker 2 1:01:56

yeah , I don't know . But going back to the female friendships , I really enjoyed that too and I think that this is a sister relationship throughout the year . I think this is a sister movie . It was the sister relationships demonstrated throughout the years , because you have the two young girls , the daughters .

Speaker 2 1:02:12

So you have the children , you have the young I wouldn't even say middle-aged , because they didn't look like Well , maybe Maybe in their 30s Middle-aged . Yeah , look like well , maybe maybe in their 30s middle-aged , was it ? Yeah , I think they said if you're 33 , you're middle-aged , I guess . So you have middle-aged jillian and sally sisters , and then you have aunt aunt francis and jet , who are sisters in their elderly age , and I bought all of their chemistries with their sisters and with each other . Yeah , and I'm so sad that in a movie that's 145 minutes long , they couldn't fulfill that with the witches of eastwick in a two hour long film . Yeah , and I was like you know , I had high hopes , like I said , michelle fifer and susan saradon at the very least . So that's something that I did enjoy in this film and I watched these backwards . So I watched practical magic first and then the witches of eastwick . So I think it's another thing . I was like , oh , you know , there's gonna be three girls .

Speaker 3 1:03:03

Oh , yeah kind of like hocus pocus . You know they all have chemistry ?

Speaker 2 1:03:07

um no , didn't know sorry , it's okay .

Speaker 3 1:03:11

Uh , fun facts about witches , all right . So , uh , what ? In like the Puritan settlers times , women figured out that you should be clean , right . So they were always sweeping up their houses , right . So now witches became associated with brooms because they were cleaning . And then they also had cats around , because cats would eat the mice or the insects and the bugs and whatever . So it was like useful to have a cat . And then they were like smart , they just figured out like oh , this herb will heal this thing . Like I put aloe vera on everything . I'm like , if you got a scrape or a burn , I'm

Breaking the Curse and Final Thoughts

Speaker 3 1:03:51

putting aloe vera because it heals . It's a healing . Yeah , so that's why witches were like associated with like potions and stuff and um , yeah , but like back then the puritans settlers like they didn't understand , I guess , the logic or the science about that .

Speaker 2 1:04:09

So they're just like oh , that woman's a witch , yeah , and I think that's very interesting considering that they were really pushing religion as well yeah , it wasn't just like I hate you you're a witch and you're doing magic . It's like I'm I'm of this religion and we only follow this and people that don't follow it and treat themselves as their own god or whatever , are witches . So I feel like it was very much like , uh , religious driven as well , yeah , but yeah .

Speaker 3 1:04:38

But in the movie they have a cat and pet cat and then I think it's funny . Then sally opens up like a lotions and bath store .

Speaker 2 1:04:45

Yeah , I thought that was cool , that's a good way to put your skills to use . But now that you brought up the wit , the brooms , you notice how one of the girls brought a vacuum yeah , so I was like in the future . I'm gonna we're gonna see this reference in which culture because of hocus pocus yeah and now you have this one and it's gonna continue to be a running joke and cliche in the world building of witches , and I enjoy it I don't mind .

Speaker 2 1:05:08

It's funny every time . Yeah , I'm sad she didn't turn it on for a bit .

Speaker 3 1:05:13

We didn't see her here ? Did you see hocus pocus too ? I did . She's like on a roomba , yeah yeah , that was another one . I thought also too , when they're at school and they're doing the phone tree thing , and I was just like high school never ends Like this shit goes on forever .

Speaker 2 1:05:34

Ridiculous Mm-hmm . Do you think that the graphics stood the test of time ? Yeah , I do . I think so too . Do you think that the graphics stood the test of time ? Yeah , I do . I think so too . It wasn't too digitally yeah , like when he comes , like the way that they had him be resurrected . And when he's fighting the cop , I forgot his name . Yeah , I forgot his name . But when they're fighting Officer , gary is his name . Yeah , I forgot his name , but when they're fighting officer Gary is his name .

Speaker 2 1:06:08

I believed it . I feel like the graphics aren't shitty . I mean they could be better in today's time , but they passed the test . It was too glitchy , too obvious , too blocky , yeah now it's time for the reverse bechdel test so what does this get on ? Is it the reverse bechdel test ?

Speaker 3 1:06:32

so this is the reverse . So I did it right this time , all right , but this one fails I'm talking about jimmy or gary because it's the men . It's always talking about the , so the the her first husband . I don't even think he says like any lines in the movie ?

Speaker 2 1:06:49

no , I think it was just a montage of their life , their recent life together .

Speaker 3 1:06:52

Yeah , and then jimmy . He's always in the scene with um nicole , nicole kidman gillian , and then um , the cop . He's investigating the women , so he's always like asking about them and stuff , so you don't have any scene with where men are talking to each other so damn , I was really hoping . Yeah , I was really hoping and that's what kind of made me notice . I was just like , oh , like all the men in this movie , suck , dude , dude you're telling me yeah , yeah , it was pretty .

Speaker 2 1:07:21

Yeah , all right , everyone . Now it's time for our newest segment , popcorn or Colonel . So I think we can say that the main characters how many main characters would you say ? I mean Sally and Jillian , for sure , yeah , I would say two , just two , yeah , okay . So the main characters Sally and Jillian ? Sure , yeah , I would say two , just two , yeah , okay . So the main characters Sally and Jillian , are they relatable ? I thought so . Yes , yeah , are they attractive ?

Speaker 3 1:07:49

Hell yeah , definitely Are they funny . No , I wouldn't say they're funny . Yeah , it wasn't too much of a comedy ?

Speaker 2 1:07:58

Yeah , are they charming ? Yeah , I thought they both were .

Speaker 3 1:08:02

Yeah .

Speaker 2 1:08:04

Do they invoke sympathy or empathy ?

Speaker 3 1:08:08

Yeah , yeah . When Sally , she's mourning her husband . And then Jillian .

Speaker 2 1:08:13

Doing her thing . Doing her thing ? Yeah , I think so . Just can't drop that hot shit of a boyfriend . Yeah . Regarding the movie or the plot , are there stakes ?

Speaker 3 1:08:27

I thought so yeah , because Jimmy's trying to kill them .

Speaker 2 1:08:31

Jimmy's trying to kill them . You got Officer Gary on their ass . Yeah , the town is being mean to all of them . Are the characters in jeopardy ? Are Sally and Jillian in jeopardy ? Sally and jillian in jeopardy ? Yes , yeah , absolutely . No doubt is the conflict interesting . I thought . So I think so because they were constantly running , running , like trying to like fight these two guys . Like you know , is the topic relevant what's the topic ? I was taking the literal sense of the topic of like oh witches .

Speaker 3 1:09:04

Witches , but I really feel like this is a sister story .

Speaker 2 1:09:07

Because of the multiple generations of sisters that you have and being there for your sister . So yeah , and I thought it was relevant .

Speaker 3 1:09:14

Yeah , it's relevant .

Speaker 2 1:09:17

It's a pop star how exciting . So now the ratings . It's a popcorn how exciting . So now the ratings . So , out of 96 reviews , the Tomatometer gives this a 93% . An audience score of over 100,000 ratings gives this a 73% . What do you give this film ?

Speaker 3 1:09:40

I give it a 9 out of 10 . Yeah , yeah , I really like it . You love this film . I give it a 9 out of 10 . Yeah , yeah , I really like it . You love this film . I like this movie . It's good . Yeah , I think definitely more male presence would be good . If I had to choose one , I would say Jimmy . I wanted to see more of Jimmy . You did , yeah , doing what though ?

Speaker 2 1:09:58

Just being evil More villainous more villainous yeah I give this uh , like I'm stuck between a 7 out of 10 or 8 out of 10 , because I feel like there could have been more in the story as well . Um , I think they could have recasted officer gary . Yeah , they could have been more of jimmy . They didn't have to kill jimmy twice . Um , I kind of don't really like that . The blood , bloody hand brought her sister back I just was throwing me off .

Speaker 2 1:10:27

I didn't throw you off , but it threw me off . I liked it . But this is a movie that , oh , and I also felt , like again , like in in the um , I felt it was like moving on too quickly that this whole town fucking hates your family of generations and then you're confessing to them that they're which I'm used to them being like you're a witch , witch , but instead , they all came together .

Speaker 3 1:10:49

Well , I think it was because they invited all the women to um the seance , and then there was one woman where she was like oh , I'm surprised to see you here . And then she was like well , I just wanted to see the inside of your house . Yeah , you know , I always surprised to see you here .

Speaker 2 1:11:00

And then she was like well , I just wanted to see the inside of your house . Yeah , you know , I always wanted to see it and so and I feel like that gives another thing of like relationships between women . You know , just I kind of wanted to be your friend . Yeah .

Speaker 3 1:11:13

And I think it's just like the curiosity , like you know , you hate what you don't understand , kind of thing , and then once they invited the town ladies to be part of it , they were like , okay , now it's cool to be a witch , yeah .

Speaker 2 1:11:29

I'm going to go with an 8 out of 10 . Because I will watch this again and I wasn't too long .