Ding Dong! Ever felt that swell of pride so strong it could burst your heart? Well, strap in, because we're spilling on Bubby's first ballet recital, where every pirouette and plié was a punch to the feels. We're serving up a holiday platter of personal tales, TV obsessions (hello, Tony Soprano), and Italian meat cravings, all while navigating the festive chaos that knits our family closer. And speaking of knits, let's not forget the girls' getaway to Boston—history, clams, and a chill that made us all the more grateful for each other's warmth.
Now, let's get real about decking the halls without decking someone in the face—holiday stress, we're looking at you. Our latest episode is your survival guide through the tinsel-laden trenches, complete with my hubby's ninja wrapping skills that turn gift-giving into an art form. We're tossing you our lifesaving tips and hilarious listener stories that prove we're all just one ugly sweater away from a Christmas meltdown. Plus, a shout-out to all who've expertly dodged that dreaded "When are you getting married?" question—we feel you.
We wrap up with a cozy chat about those small, shared moments that make living with others a sitcom-worthy adventure. From hair ties conducting a disappearing act to the great sock escapade and the nocturnal symphonies our loved ones serenade us with—we've covered it all. And we didn't forget those Lifetime movie castings that send us into generational shockwaves—Melissa Joan Hart, a grandma? C'mon. So, pour yourself some eggnog, and let's laugh our way through the holidays and beyond, spilling tea that's too good for TMZ but just right for us.
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Ding Dong! Ever felt that swell of pride so strong it could burst your heart? Well, strap in, because we're spilling on Bubby's first ballet recital, where every pirouette and plié was a punch to the feels. We're serving up a holiday platter of personal tales, TV obsessions (hello, Tony Soprano), and Italian meat cravings, all while navigating the festive chaos that knits our family closer. And speaking of knits, let's not forget the girls' getaway to Boston—history, clams, and a chill that made us all the more grateful for each other's warmth.
Now, let's get real about decking the halls without decking someone in the face—holiday stress, we're looking at you. Our latest episode is your survival guide through the tinsel-laden trenches, complete with my hubby's ninja wrapping skills that turn gift-giving into an art form. We're tossing you our lifesaving tips and hilarious listener stories that prove we're all just one ugly sweater away from a Christmas meltdown. Plus, a shout-out to all who've expertly dodged that dreaded "When are you getting married?" question—we feel you.
We wrap up with a cozy chat about those small, shared moments that make living with others a sitcom-worthy adventure. From hair ties conducting a disappearing act to the great sock escapade and the nocturnal symphonies our loved ones serenade us with—we've covered it all. And we didn't forget those Lifetime movie castings that send us into generational shockwaves—Melissa Joan Hart, a grandma? C'mon. So, pour yourself some eggnog, and let's laugh our way through the holidays and beyond, spilling tea that's too good for TMZ but just right for us.
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Welcome back to Old Tricks. It's been a while since I. How's it go?
Speaker 1:It's been a while since I could say I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:We have to say sorry to you guys.
Speaker 1:God, how many times are they? We're just sorry.
Speaker 2:Should we call the I'm sorry podcast?
Speaker 1:Yeah, this should be called the. Here we Are. Surprise, the Inconsistent Podcast, at least we're going.
Speaker 2:You know we did get rated like 5 people's top 10%. Listen to podcast.
Speaker 1:You're lying.
Speaker 2:Square, maybe it was more than that.
Speaker 1:Was it just you and me? It was like 15% or something it was just you and me, which is cool.
Speaker 2:And then it was like 2 people's 1% you and me, probably us, it is.
Speaker 1:We're my aunt, yeah.
Speaker 2:Anyway, we're back, you know.
Speaker 1:We're back, we're thriving.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're alive. We're a little sick maybe we were all sick, yes, but anyway, we're here to bring you another episode. You know it's a Christmas episode, woo.
Speaker 1:The holidays. The holidays Are among us.
Speaker 2:And we're ready to rock.
Speaker 1:So now that we're here, let's just talk about what's been going on.
Speaker 2:Let's do it.
Speaker 1:Okay, bubby had her first ballet recital. Yeah, her first ever. It's always been champ, you know, doing his thing. We've always been, you know, just supporting him. So now she's got her little thing going in ballet. She had her recital.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's a badass. Her like second class. Her teacher was like I think she needs to be bumped up to the next class and we're like I wanted her to. Obviously I want her to like be pushed kind of, but it was really good for her. She's super. She calls it shy, but she gets really emotional when there's people looking at her and shit.
Speaker 1:So yeah, we've all been. Hey, I used to be like that Me too.
Speaker 2:I was like that was a baby, but now I'm like a big, strong, tough guy, you know. Yeah, her recital went good and a lot of people went for her.
Speaker 1:So many people went for her yeah.
Speaker 2:We had like 15 people probably, and it was short. Her performance was what like two minutes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just one little dance, a little two minute dance. It did it two times, so everyone could see.
Speaker 2:And after the first one, everyone cheered and she was like doing super good. Everyone cheered and yelled and then we all look up and she's crying, bawling her eyes out, because I think it was a little much it's intense.
Speaker 1:It's intense to have that many people looking at you and you know you're not used to it.
Speaker 2:She did a great job, though, but she did.
Speaker 1:She recovered and she did the second dance. Yeah, we're very proud of her. For sure we are, and next is we've been watching the Sopranos.
Speaker 2:Great show I've heard for a long time it was, and everyone's like Chris dude. That guy reminds me of you, like the boss, oh God, I just do oh no one told you that no. I told myself that during the show I'm like that's me.
Speaker 1:Every single time, I have one eye rolling in the back of my head. The other one is like closing. Every single time, that's me, that's me Such a good show.
Speaker 2:It's such a good show. He's like dude, he's a big sweetheart, he is. I love it. You just can't help but love him. I know it's so good, it is good it just makes me want a charcuterie board too. All the gavagool and all that Dude, they eat the. Proshutes all the prosciutto and the mozzarella we barely got in a charcuterie boards and wine, and I'm like they had the secret the whole time. That's why those Italians are always so happy they're always eating meat and bread and pasta.
Speaker 2:They're in the kitchen pulling out fucking sliced meat. I'm like what, how do? Why don't we have that?
Speaker 1:Now we do. We have lunch meat. Now we do have sliced meat.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so we've been, we're turning into them.
Speaker 1:Oh no, I'm just kidding Anyway. Yeah, and the last thing is, it's the holiday season, so we've been doing Christmas activities.
Speaker 2:It's been fun. Christmas is my favorite, I think now, out of all the holidays, brianna is not the biggest she or you are fun.
Speaker 1:No, I love Christmas. Obviously, Halloween is my favorite, but I love Christmas Mine used to be a Halloween, but I don't know.
Speaker 2:I think as the kids get older, I'm more into family shit. Yeah, you're a dad now, but yeah, another thing real quick is we've done some traveling. You went to Boston with the girls my girls trip. I did?
Speaker 1:I went to Boston with my besties Bri, bri B and Becca, and we just went during um, during a little weekend, a little weekend girls trip, and that might be why I kind of have this cold, because it was very cold and rainy and one day it was even like I was like, oh, it's only 40 something degrees and my friends were like, yeah, but what's the wind chill? Do you see this wind? And I looked and it was like feels like 30 degrees, so 30 is cold, yeah. So I mean it was perfect weather, I'll take the rain any day.
Speaker 1:Um and it was fun. We got to, just you know, hang out, visit some historical sites. Some bars have some clam chowda.
Speaker 2:It's funny because I saw Becca post that you guys call yourselves the Coven we do, and you guys visited Salem.
Speaker 1:We do and I was like oh full circle.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know you meant to go back you know, we've been the Coven for a while. We just have always been fans of um, hocus, pocus, so and the fact that we got to go there, it was really cool. It was funny because my friend Bri, she's like a Boston aficionado, like she knows all Boston and um, so she showed us all around Boston, had us like visit all these places, and then when it came to Salem I was like Okay, well, we need to go here, and then let's go here, and then we'll do this. And then so I was like the Salem.
Speaker 2:She probably loved it, cause there's a lot of black cats though.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, there is so many cats, that's cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah and uh. I just got back from Canada brewing some uh beers with one of my buddies up there, and it was cold too.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It was like forties, but it wasn't like a wind. There was no wind really, it was just very crispy, but it was fun. I made beer and drink beer and how to get that celebrated beer. Yeah and uh, kind of like tapped each other out to have a break from the kids, you know, like in Debbie. Yeah, I know we really did.
Speaker 1:Like I came home and I think, like two days later you left.
Speaker 2:I was like tap me out, how was it? How was it?
Speaker 1:taking care of the kids on your own for a few days, Dude.
Speaker 2:I think that was the first time I've had them nonstop without like dropping them off to someone, cause, like everyone's always so concerned when Brianna leaves, you're like, oh what? Christine?
Speaker 1:I know why. I'm yelling because I'm because why, when I leave, all of a sudden I was like is he okay? Does he need help?
Speaker 2:Like how you leave and everyone's like, let me have them, let me have them for the night, and I'm just like I have been like, oh, okay, but this time I was just like you know what, I'm going to have them, and I was. It was hard.
Speaker 1:Dude parenting is hard.
Speaker 2:I couldn't imagine it really put in perspective for reals, not to be like cheesy but single parents, single parents, who?
Speaker 2:don't, who don't have nobody. There's people who don't have any family, any friends, and I wanted to kill myself. Sometimes I'm straight up. It was fucking insane. Oh, it's hard. And I caught myself a lot being like really frustrated with them and like stern. But then after I'd be like I'd talk to them and I'd be like I'm not mad, I'm not like upset, I just want Things to like be okay. You know, I want you guys to have fun, but and they, they were always like okay. Yeah, I know, but I'm just like damn, I need to try to chill out a bit, because it's hard having three fucking kids by yourself, shit. I wanted to drop them off to their grandma's house, but I didn't do it this time.
Speaker 1:I'm proud of you and I'm proud of you for also, like, also, like acknowledging, you know, and even with them, acknowledging with them is the best thing, like hey, I just got a little frustrated. I'm sorry if I yelled, but I did that like five times.
Speaker 2:That's good.
Speaker 1:That's showing them like accountability that it's okay to have feelings.
Speaker 2:It was cool though. Yeah, it was fun, yeah, sweet nice let's.
Speaker 1:cheers to that, cheers to let's cheers to single parents.
Speaker 2:I think that's a good one. Single parents who have multiple kids or one kid and they don't have anybody. Keep Doing your thing and you're the real MVP. Yeah, it's fucking rough being a parent dude. Yeah, and that's what I like. People do hit me up and say I listen to the podcast and I like follow on Instagram because you show like your kids when they're acting up, or you guys talk about Struggles with your kids is because we're like real, you know people are like oh, I could never say stuff like that, or I Can't mess around with my lady like that or or something, something, and I'm just like what I can't imagine.
Speaker 2:I can't imagine being in a relationship with someone who can't like fuck around or Be honest and I like posting shit about my kids when it's not the best stuff, because it's I real, you know, and I try to. I want people to see that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, cheers to honesty and the realness of life. In parenting, we're drinking in joy buys by stone but, it's a Halloween beers, drink it by 1031. We are everything. This tells you anything with a couple extras, you know.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, nice.
Speaker 1:Okay, doki, doki. So our topic for today is Surviving the holidays. Bum, bum, bum because when you think of holidays, I mean you think of cheer and happiness and Togetherness. But there is a good amount of people who, when you think of the holidays, You're like oh.
Speaker 2:Yeah oh no, and there's there's people that we've became friends with recently who are like super cool people, and then we bring up the holidays and they're like, oh, my brother-in-law's or my, my mother-in-law's house or this, and we're like it's everyone's in the same boat.
Speaker 1:Yeah we're all the same. Yeah, sure. So let's start with our polls. We asked our first question is how's your social battery during these times? 10% said I'm thriving, ho, ho, ho. 60% said sometimes I need a break to reset. And 32 or 30% said that's a missile. No, for me, I'm so no, I'm very proud of that. Okay, the next one is what stresses you out the most about the holidays 36% said buying gifts. 14% said family drama. 7% said hosting at your casa. 43% said trying to fit everything in your schedule.
Speaker 2:I'm surprised the first one didn't Get more votes buying gifts and Family drama. Yeah, family drama. I feel like that's a big one for a lot of people. It was a big one for us, yeah, and buying gives to it's always like what the fuck do. I get, or money wise, I mean 36% is pretty high, but yeah, that's annoying. We still need to buy gifts for a couple people, but I'm like you could buy them. It's the cousins, girlfriends, and I'm like go ahead, you, you, go ahead, you do it.
Speaker 1:We've actually done pretty good this thing that's because of you, we're almost done.
Speaker 2:Just two more people.
Speaker 1:What helps you survive the holidays? 18% said everything I told you. I'm living it up. They're lying 36% said getting as lit as a Christmas tree. 18% said winter hibernation and 27% said I have no problem telling people.
Speaker 2:No, you know I think helps me is Playing family games. I look forward to doing that.
Speaker 1:Like during the holidays.
Speaker 2:Yeah, those little funny games. Like it doesn't matter how Much I wouldn't get along with somebody when we would do games, I think that was like a really fun part. That is always a fun part, my inner kid was like, fuck yeah I ten dollar in and out, gift card, yeah. So having this year, I want to have a lot of games, so hopefully I could think of some.
Speaker 1:Oh, I have to think of games.
Speaker 2:my Christmas thing, so it'll get us through but I mean, I like her family, so I think I'll be fine.
Speaker 1:Okay and last one. We asked for any tips, tricks or holiday stories, and we actually got a few. One year, my sister was allowed to win all the gift cards and, in parentheses, the favorite Fuck that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, fuck them. I have a similar stories. Yeah, I.
Speaker 1:Mean that sucks. The next one is order gifts by Thanksgiving and you'll be 100 your grandma did that. Oh, my grandma. Yeah, before Thanksgiving we went to.
Speaker 2:Thanksgiving at her grandma's and she's like, oh, look at the fireplace, a thousand gifts, I have everything already wrapped. I'm like shit. All you do with your life is clean and prepare for the fucking holidays.
Speaker 1:But I sure for the kids, because they were there and they're like can we open one, can we touch one?
Speaker 2:Oh my god, this is this might they tell that Bubby told us that five times today. Yeah, because we have our.
Speaker 1:Actually, I just want to give a little shout out to you because you are the best husband and oh, what are you pulling out? I'm pulling up a little gift. We'll probably have to post a picture of this if you don't see this on YouTube.
Speaker 1:He is the wrapping king. He we barely get a gift and he wraps it Automatically. He has. He even like we got ribbon. He was like I'm gonna cut this in half. I think it'll look better in half and he wrapped it. He was like I'm not really sure. I ordered other other ribbon. You're an idiot. His ribbon came, like I think, yesterday, and he was like my ribbon came, dude, and it's beautiful. Like look at the out. We have two different.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm gonna get up real quick so I saw these videos on Instagram last year of these women doing these sick ass, wrapping videos With like black and super dark green paper. Obviously, that's our aesthetic yeah, with cool like ribbon, and I was like I want to do that. So these year I was like I'm fucking doing it and I did it and it looks good. Thanks for blowing me up.
Speaker 1:It looks beautiful because look after you use my legs to hold this up, but these are. There's a matte black and a matte green and there is velvet ribbon and I'm just very proud of you and thankful for you because it's so helpful.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think you're thankful because you hate wrapping.
Speaker 1:I'm I'm okay at wrapping Okay.
Speaker 2:I'm okay at wrapping.
Speaker 1:I'm not bad, but you just make it look way more beautiful than. I could actually my, my bestie Becca, has a theory that guys are better at wrapping than women because of, like, all of the 90 degree angles, and men are better with numbers and stuff.
Speaker 2:So I don't know Wow.
Speaker 1:But I just wanted to shout you out for that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they came out. You're the best, they came out pretty good, they did.
Speaker 1:Okay, sorry, tangent. Next one is stand on principle with your boundaries, blood or not. Disrespect is disrespect.
Speaker 2:I agree with that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the next one is one time we had a huge family blowout fight all because I ate too many tamales. How many?
Speaker 2:is too many, I know. And what were you doing? Did you eat some where people couldn't eat any, or were you like ripping ass because you ate too many?
Speaker 1:Who took the last cheese?
Speaker 2:Dude, there's a couple times family have gotten in a fist fight set. I remember things giving and like it gets fun. I used to get gnarly back in the day, but it's not happening.
Speaker 1:Well, it's like the bear.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Last one mom always tells us she does need help, but then gets mad at us for not helping. That reminds me of that. It's like a little video, I don't know, it's like years old now. It's a classic and it's of this guy pretending to be a mom and he's like you didn't make your bed, throw it out. Now that's it. No, go do this. He's like running around. He's like you need to clean the couches or he's like we can't let them know that we.
Speaker 1:He like holds of the vacuum cleaner up and it's just like I feel like a lot of moms are like that.
Speaker 2:It reminds me of that show the bear the bear yeah. Where the mom's fucking trying to cook all the fish, or everything her cigarette buds like hanging all over the food. Do that fuck. That show gives me anxiety.
Speaker 1:It's a little bit of like PTSD for people. Yeah, I've talked to some people and they said that as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they were. I think that show relates to a lot of people in.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure yeah. Well, the holidays, they're fun guys.
Speaker 2:Let's try to come out with something positive, oh well.
Speaker 1:So there's different reasons. Holidays can stress people out. Money, gift time, work, family and friends there's nothing wrong with it. But some of us would rather be more of the Grinch or Kevin from home alone and just spend time by ourselves.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's nothing wrong with it, because, you know I there can be times where we have family members asking us questions about all different type of things like love, job, school, family. It can be overwhelming, yeah. So here's a few tips into how you can survive and handle the holidays.
Speaker 2:Wait, wait, wait. Just to add on the money one, I've been seeing a shitload of memes saying like damn Christmas is coming. All of you are getting my thoughts and prayers for Christmas.
Speaker 1:I said that to you, did you yes? There's other super funny ones like yeah, there was another one that said Christmas is always here, my thoughts are still in the mail, or something like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's fucking hilarious ones, but I think money is a big stress factor.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, money can be a very big thing. That's why money and gifts. But I mean, you just got your hair cut and you said that your barber, she said that she was making all of her gifts.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she said she. I don't even know what this barbershop is called, but Is it like the stork? Oh yeah, maybe the stork Alex. Shout out to Alex If you ever come across this. She said she's doing a lot of DIY so she made a couple of blankets. She I don't know if she has pictures of her family or did some art on some pictures, but she went at their stores to buy frames to give like pictures out for Christmas. I was talking to your aunt, our aunt.
Speaker 1:Shelly today.
Speaker 2:Fuck, what is she? Oh yeah, we talked about like DIY gifts. They're the best gifts because she just had some family photo shoot. That's fucking cringe a little bit, but they gave her, they gifted her, they gifted her a family calendar. So every month has a different picture of family and I don't know different groups in their family that they took from the photo shoot. But she said she loved it, it was her favorite we saw today.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was cute because it was just like some pictures, it was family pictures and then her and her boys or her husband and the boys, and just the boys and her and her husband and that's heartfelt, like someone took the time to stamp out those little holes and put the rings through the holes and print out the pictures. That's what really means a lot.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So if you're tight on money, I think a tip is to do more DIY shit, because you're only getting gifts for the people you fuck with or the people like you really love, so something DIY would be like oh shit, this is sick.
Speaker 1:Nice, Okay. So first tip is plan ahead. Give me so, before you go into a family event, it's a good idea to have an idea. It's good to have an idea of what can happen. So think about specific things that might kind of cause you a little bit of stress, like personal question, personal questions from you know an aunt or the uncle who always compares you to a different family member, and so once you've thought about that, um, favorite a plan for it, prepare a response or even, like you know, figure out how you can not sit by those people.
Speaker 1:Plan ahead, do something to kind of, like you know, forego that.
Speaker 2:You know what I think about what I think one of my favorite movies Breonna hates all my movies that like cast away when they're at a Thanksgiving dinner. Before he takes off and the plane crashes, Tom Hanks is. They're eating like a Thanksgiving dinner and they ask him like oh, when are you going to make her your whole, or what do?
Speaker 1:they say something.
Speaker 2:And then he, like I don't know, they make some type of joke, but I feel like if you're dating and you bring a new fucking girl or guy to the family event, I think that's like a go to for a lot of people. Oh, when are you going? To settle down or, if you're married, when are you going to have kids?
Speaker 1:and when are you moving in together?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I didn't really understand, like asking those type of questions or kind of they're not rude but it's like not good etiquette, kind of decorum. Yeah, and so I really wouldn't ask that anymore. But, like that I might get if I'm like really cool and I want to mess around with you. But I thought of that because they're all eating and they fucking asked when you get married.
Speaker 1:Well, there's that. Have you seen? It's like a it's I want. It's not a meme, but it's like a viral video thing going around where it's a bunch of like it's usually Mexican kids. You know how you're sitting at the table and then you have, like, a family member ask you a question, because we're all used to those uncomfortable questions and it's like so you just left that job. And then the kid like pushes their plate up and gets up, or it's like so how's your baby daddy doing?
Speaker 1:and then the girl know it's like very viral right now, so it's true like we've all got those questions. We've all got to face them. So have your escape plan, yeah, okay. Number two is have an escape plan. So sometimes you can't leave the family gathering altogether, but you can find, you know, like little places where you can find your own piece of mine safety, like a bathroom or yeah or if you're at like an old family home, your old bedroom or something. Take a little walk.
Speaker 2:Escape plan yeah.
Speaker 1:Next one is find an ally, so you can find a relative to stick with, usually a cousin. Yeah, you have a bunch of cousins. Yeah, you could relate to yeah a cousin or maybe a cool aunt or uncle or someone who you can just kind of like run off and vent to and, if all else fails, have a friend on standby that you could text call, just vent to call and say it's time for an emergency.
Speaker 2:Call me so I could leave. Yeah, did.
Speaker 1:I just do it. I said, hey, if you need to leave, just text me and I'll call you.
Speaker 2:I was like I'm alright, I'll try to stick it out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you know, have that yeah it's a good one yeah. Um. Next one is don't engage unless you want to. So sometimes engaging can cause more drama. You get heated things get said that don't need to be said. Um so instead try to deflect. Do an awkward laugh, An awkward knee slapper. That's what I have Really yeah, I have smiling and nodding, can do a lot. Sing a song, dance away, do a little jig, just taking your clothes off. Yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1:Just run off into the distance, make weird noises, bark at them, just pass out.
Speaker 2:Pretending you're choking or something.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, that's scary. What do you want? They call 911. I even explained to the paramedic no, there's nothing lodged in my throat and just say I swallowed it, I feel better.
Speaker 2:Don't ever ask me that again, auntie, please, uncle or.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's nice. Um. Next one is um, find your joy. So you don't have to have fun the whole time you're with, you know, whoever you're with, but don't let a negative mindset keep you from enjoying something in the holidays, you know. So focus on stuff that makes you happy, even if they're small. That could be hanging out with a certain friend or a certain family member, or even sing a pet, you know, or even just the food.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the food's a good one. Yeah, there's usually too much. So try to eat as much as you can until you're uncomfortable. So when those awkward questions come up you can just go uh uh, kind of hold your belly and be like uh. I can't talk, I'm too full. Those mashed potatoes.
Speaker 1:We'll get back to that conversation later. I'll see you next year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, then it's a good pretend you're asleep and be like I eat too much. You just come up today to go back to sleep, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So you know, even if it's just like put on your comfy socks hanging on the couch, find something that makes you happy and, you know, enjoy it.
Speaker 2:For sure.
Speaker 1:Next one is ask for help. Okay.
Speaker 2:That's cool.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's here. As overbearing as they may be, sometimes some, there can be some family members. You, like I said, you could have a cousin or a cool aunt, uncle, maybe a grandparent or a parent, someone there who cares about you and will, you know, be your ally and everything you could say like hey, they're fucking asking me if we're going to fucking have sex and have babies. Yeah, so just like a little, like a little knee touch.
Speaker 2:We've done that before and then they freaking. Have your back and change the subject, or the like. Hey, let me show you this and then you leave, or what was?
Speaker 1:it on. It was on. Love is blind. They had an emoji, an escape emoji, remember and you take. You could text each other the emoji.
Speaker 2:And then you bone out, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then you have like a little plan or a safe word. Yeah, didn't we come up with one, but we did have an emoji. I said to you a long time ago I forgot what it was, I forgot.
Speaker 2:We're not good at this.
Speaker 1:I think it was like a tombstone or something.
Speaker 2:Next time something happens and you text me, I'm like what's she gonna be like she's she's, she's, she's, she's butt dialing me, she's butt texting me, and I'm gonna be in the corner like please help me.
Speaker 1:Help me. He's just gonna have like five different tombstones or something you can be like wow, oh interesting, can I have more cake please? No, anyway, okay. Next one is don't be afraid to say no, don't be afraid to like those people. How many people was it?
Speaker 2:Just say it's a ah, none of your business. 27%. When you were saying stuff like that, I was like I just say like fuck off, like shut up, leave me alone.
Speaker 1:Would you really to your family? You've said that before.
Speaker 2:I'd probably say like be quiet, like don't talk to me about that shit. Like man, I'd say that. But that's what I was thinking.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah. So don't be afraid to say no. It's okay to say no when you're asked to do more than you can, and it's not just like question wise. Like if someone, if people are piling things on your plate more and more and you feel stressed out about that, don't be afraid to say like hey, I've got this to do this to. Like this is what I can do for you, but I can't do that. Like, don't be afraid to say no, and it's fine to say no to some invitations too. Like if you can't make things managing your time, like you know that's a lot.
Speaker 1:That was a stressor for some people. So it's fine to say no to invitations, too, and remember that this is your holiday as well.
Speaker 2:Holidays are meant for happiness, not a holiday who be what he stressfulness Good a grinch reference, yeah. So anyone trying to bring drama or trouble any trouble your way and you get an invite, be like, probably not, probably won't go there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, be okay saying no, Sometimes a no, and just staying home and your jammies with a nice book or a nice charcoachy board.
Speaker 2:Yeah. You know it's better for your mental health and as you get older and you're in your own house or apartment, you can have something and then just invite the people you fuck with. I think, that's probably the best. Thing. Yeah, but when you're in your like 20s or growing up, it's kind of awkward because you're going to your family's thing, your cousin's thing or whatever. But, once you're old, it'll be easier for you to manage what you do and not do.
Speaker 1:Nice. So another one I have. Last one is to volunteer, so you could volunteer and what a homeless shelter that they're what. Well, during the holidays, not the day of. I mean whatever you prefer. Uh huh, you could volunteer and deliver meals, or you could you know you could read and spend time with the elderly. What? Why are you looking at me like that?
Speaker 2:That one's just interesting.
Speaker 1:Who does that? A lot of people do that Really, yes.
Speaker 2:So volunteer as opposed to what? It puts into perspective what you have, and not that other people don't.
Speaker 1:Yes, like hmm that's good.
Speaker 2:I think that one's that is good. It puts it in perspective of what people don't have, but it doesn't fix the fact that some family sucks and are going to make things uncomfortable.
Speaker 1:It doesn't, but it also it can bring joy to you to spend time with other people, and you know people who are very grateful for what you're doing for them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree, then it's just interesting Okay.
Speaker 1:Is it?
Speaker 2:not Because we're talking about dealing with family, right?
Speaker 1:No, we're talking about surviving the holiday. So a way to survive the holidays is to volunteer.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:And to bring pleasure and happiness to other people, because sometimes, when you make other people happy or make their day a little, a little more brighter, it makes you happy.
Speaker 2:Okay, maybe I was focusing too much on family drama stuff.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, you need to leave your family drama at the door then, not my family drama.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying in general. But okay, so surviving the holidays. That makes more sense to me is volunteer, especially if you don't, if you don't have anybody, if you don't have that much people in your life. Maybe volunteering could help.
Speaker 1:Okay, I see you now Okay.
Speaker 2:Well, thanks for fucking clarifying.
Speaker 1:You're welcome. Yes, okay, actually, have one last one. So a lot of people suffer from sad. Don't be rude, it's a real thing. Sadness, no, sad, what's that?
Speaker 2:Does that stand for so long?
Speaker 1:Seasonal effective disorder.
Speaker 2:Oh no, another one of these made of fucking disorders.
Speaker 1:Anyways. So you can get a sad light. Actually, no, sad it's a real thing, because you know how the sun sets way earlier you walk out your house, it's already dark. You don't get a lot of sunlight. We all need vitamin D. A lot of people have vitamin D deficiencies. We all need vitamin D to feel healthy, happy. So a sad light simulates the sunlight that we miss out on during the winter months, and it is thought that the light may improve sad by encouraging your brain to reduce the production of melatonin, which is the hormone that makes you sleepy. You know we should get you a sad light, and it increases the production of serotonin, which is the hormone that makes you happy.
Speaker 2:Okay, thank you, dr Breonna. You know what fixes vitaminD a deficiency, a campfire mule.
Speaker 1:Vitamin D pills.
Speaker 2:I think that would solve sad. Not a lot of people just wanna go and take things. Okay, all right, that was interesting. Take Okay, okay, thank you. So that's it. Those were good yeah, so I mean the tips and tricks that we tell you guys obviously are things that a lot of people know already and it might seem cheesy, but it's easy to forget things you can do to try to get out of those awkward situations. No, yeah, it's good to always have like a little reminder 100%.
Speaker 1:It's gonna be like, hey, if you cause like we said a lot of times during the holidays, we're not comfortable. I remember, I remember in during the holidays I would be so stressed out like thinking about my family, asked me about school, mm-hmm, because school told me that I was gonna be like. School took a while for me and I remember being having family be like, oh, when you graduating, oh, what job are you getting after? I'd be like God, how many times am I gonna get asked?
Speaker 2:this. Yeah, that's kind of annoying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's just. You know you need things to kind of help you.
Speaker 2:And there's some people who fucking are in school forever, for years. So if you're in school to like your 24, 25, and you still ask, you're asking them. It's just like I think they should be like maybe I should stop asking.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you asked me last year. I'm still here, Don't?
Speaker 2:you don't need any update yeah, people go to school, people take breaks you know yeah. I mean it is what it is, yeah, but that's that's good that you said that, not said that, but like you brought up that example, yeah, we're all the same, we're all suffering through it all and something is like things could seem small, but to that person that's going through that or doing that is a big thing. Yeah, so that's good to say.
Speaker 1:Plus, that's always true as someone else who's at a holiday function. Keep that in mind. You know, we could all be going through something. Maybe you don't need to ask about that. Maybe you just need to say hey, how are you doing? Yeah, how was your day today, or how Keep it light.
Speaker 2:Yeah, don't keep it personal, especially if you don't really like staying in contact with that person, cause you can ask something that like, hey, how's your wife? And it's like, oh, she died, like last year, you know. Oh, I mean like don't ask personal shit to people you don't really know that well, even if it's family, especially family, cause something could happen in their life where you don't know and you're trying to like ask personal questions and then it's kind of uncomfortable, you know.
Speaker 1:No, that's true. Yeah, I mean, that was kind of extreme.
Speaker 2:But it could be school. It could be like I dropped out of school and then a year later, it's like oh, how's your school doing? And you're like, oh, I dropped out. It's like do you don't want to fucking talk about that?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they say that they're like, oh, maybe.
Speaker 2:I should have led with the school, not the dead.
Speaker 1:Not the dead wife, sorry Not the dead wife.
Speaker 2:Oh, you asshole.
Speaker 1:Okay, so next is our ask pain. Okay.
Speaker 2:What's the question?
Speaker 1:Our question is what is something interesting you found out about women after you started living with them? Do you have an answer, before I read any of them, about you? I'm the first girl.
Speaker 2:You ever truly lived with. Yeah, one thing I found interesting is that you always seem like a clean girl, which I mean you are, you know you're a clean girl, I know what you're gonna bring up.
Speaker 1:Hahaha, you have. You bring this up any see? Wait, this is the holiday, are you? Are we real?
Speaker 2:Are we fake?
Speaker 1:We are real, but you bring this up any chance you get.
Speaker 2:I think this was the first time I ever got mad at Rihanna. Please, it was so. What was interesting is that she was always clean, you know. And that's why that's why it felt really like comfortable and safe and like I was the best sleeping in her bed. I was like, oh, she's the best. And so clean. Oh, she's the best. Anyway, for some reason I don't remember the reason- we were moving, she was moving.
Speaker 1:We were moving when to the? I was pregnant with champ.
Speaker 2:So we were moving into the big house, the big room. We were moving into the big room at her grandma's house. Thank God for them, they let me move in because I was fucking homeless. And then I moved into their garage and then they let me move inside. Then I got pregnant and then she got pregnant. That's another story, hahaha. So we were moving into the big room and everything was going good until we moved the fucking mattress off the bed frame. It was an abyss, it was fucking, it was a what's it called the stranger things.
Speaker 1:It was the upside down it was the upside down.
Speaker 2:I'm not fucking around.
Speaker 1:Those demons, those demons crawling around, don't say that.
Speaker 2:Okay, those and demons, those fucking spiders.
Speaker 1:There were no spiders, there was nothing living there, it was dust. What's that? Isn't that? All we are is dust in the way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're fucking dust, and dust, we shall return.
Speaker 1:I thought that was the.
Speaker 2:I thought we were supposed to just go in there and die.
Speaker 1:That's where all my family members were. I put them in there after they passed away this was the first time I ever got upset at.
Speaker 2:I couldn't believe it. I said what the fuck is going on here? I could not believe it. How dirty under your bed was you didn't. I mean, okay, you didn't have a lot of shit under there, but it was fucking dirty and I was like interesting I already got him, so I said it.
Speaker 2:But we, I helped her clean it. I was pretty grumpy but I swear to God, that's probably the first time I was mad at you. I think it was Cause I remember damn that pissed me off and I don't think I've ever been mad at you, it's not the first time you ever mad at me. You grump, all right, she knows, I guess, anyway, but that's when I thought it was interesting. Under her it was the dirtiest place in the world. Okay, sorry, that went longer than.
Speaker 1:I needed to. No that was nice. Okay, so some some answers to what is. Something interesting you found out about women after you started living with them is they're cold hands, feet, legs, nose, masters of torture. Your fucking feet and hands are freezing. During the winter months.
Speaker 2:Yes, they are very cold. She puts them on my belly and my back and I can't say no.
Speaker 1:What'd you just say this morning?
Speaker 2:You're like I hate you.
Speaker 1:I was, I was laying with you and I was putting my feet on you. You're like why are you trying to find every like warm spot?
Speaker 2:She stills my warm. I was.
Speaker 1:I kept moving my foot from like here to up to right to left Under my belly and my armpits. But then someone else answered and I think you'll agree, that's who they said, but then at bedtime somehow turns into a raging furnace that wants to attach itself to me.
Speaker 2:That's a hundred percent true. You're, you get hot as fuck at night.
Speaker 1:Sometimes I'm like do I have a fever?
Speaker 2:Sometimes I'm like, okay, don't touch me.
Speaker 1:You get really hot. Next one is lots of hair ties and small socks and someone said, like how, how the fuck do you get your foot in that thing? And you can shop at children's shoe stores, and of course you can.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I see hair ties everywhere.
Speaker 1:We just, we just cleaned one up today.
Speaker 2:But the socks. I don't have a problem with cause when I'm by myself and I need somewhere to you know that's disgusting. You're socks are the best. One, because the socks are like a perfect fit. Two, so I found a megap anal of the. Your socks are always so like soft. And three, I just think of your feet. Just, I don't think of your feet. I love your feet, but, dude, muff, muffler yours guys, if you need somewhere to fucking relieve yourself, your girl socks are the best.
Speaker 1:No, don't tell them that, please don't. If you're a guy listening to this, I have I. And then tell me I have had so many socks that have been mismatched. Because he grabs one sock. And then I find one sock on the floor, I have to throw it in the hamper. I have to. I don't know where the other stuff went. Now they're misplaced. Now they're displaced, sorry, no. And then I find one in the wash. After I wash I'm like great, where is this one's twin? And I have to talk to him about it, like can you stop doing this to my poor socks?
Speaker 2:Oh, love you.
Speaker 1:Next one is they fart like a man in their sleep and a night to the bitter end.
Speaker 2:I'm not like it. You fart like a polite woman.
Speaker 1:How do I fire my?
Speaker 2:sleep. They sound like this. Everyone, put your ears to the mic, to the speakers. They sound like this. There's a couple times where she's done it she's walking herself up.
Speaker 1:I've admitted to snoring, waking me up, but no, Wow Okay hmm. Next one is you could weave a bath mat with the amount of their hair that ends up on the bathroom floor.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's natural. All the girls fucking have hair that falls off.
Speaker 1:I think I'm bolding last one always ask Do you want a solution to your problem or just a listening ear, which is good, because I actually I do that with my friends as well. So they said because I found out that crying about the same thing for an hour every other day Apparently doesn't need a fix, just tears. I actually just went through that with you, didn't I, where I told you I was like You're just kind of sad. Oh, yeah, yeah, I said I was. I was well TMI guys, here we are. I said I know I was gonna start my period and I was like I've just been kind of sad and I was crying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was like what's wrong? What's wrong in here, like I don't know, and I was like, all right, well, we just cuddled and yeah, I hope that help. Yeah, and I don't know and that's what I said.
Speaker 1:I said I can't be, I can't be a hundred percent or happy every day, so I just needed to cry a little bit and you know, that was it.
Speaker 2:I love crying.
Speaker 1:You hate crying I hate crying so much I don't the best crying is a worse.
Speaker 2:I hope you're better.
Speaker 1:I Need a sad life I need a seasonal effective disorder like no, I am so Last thing is our.
Speaker 2:Hot.
Speaker 1:Oh, hot with the goss hot hot with the goss. Hot the goss, I don't know how to finish that, let's get in the middle. Oh, okay, I have. There's a new lifetime movie out.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh, you love lifetime.
Speaker 1:Oh god, I love lifetime. Don't get me started. But in the new movie, melissa Joan Hart.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Uh-huh, she's playing a grandma. What? She's playing a grandma? And people are upset about it. They're like not okay, wait, who's that? Clarissa explains it all. Sabrina the Teenage.
Speaker 2:Witch.
Speaker 1:Cuz it's like no, I did yeah. Okay yeah, I did.
Speaker 2:She's playing a grandma she's playing a grandma, that's.
Speaker 1:I think that's why, like so many, millennials are like upset. There's like a big uproar about it.
Speaker 2:Are we that?
Speaker 1:old. We're not that old, she's not that old. She's not that old. I saw someone's comment. They were like Clarissa needs to explain this Dude, that's why. I'm crazy like we're not. I mean, we're getting older guys pushing 40. We're not even at that, but she's playing. I mean, I know she's a few years older than us.
Speaker 2:Hey, nowadays grandma's are young as fuck.
Speaker 1:Yeah, grandma's look good so yeah that's why everyone's like well, why.
Speaker 2:That's a wild decision to make, I know, maybe cuz she's like known. You know and she's known, so she they're like we could use her and people like be interested.
Speaker 1:I mean, I guess, cuz they always use like the same three women to play older women and like I, when I watch the movies I'm like I recognize her you're dying. Didn't we just murdered by your husband? In the last movie, Dude that's fucking crazy. Yeah, so I mean a lot of people are upset about that, but people could be upset, but the network is probably like fuck yeah cuz people are talking about.
Speaker 2:What did they say? Like any, any publicity is good publicity even if it's negative.
Speaker 1:Bad, plus it bad publicity is good publicity.
Speaker 2:Crazy publicity is good publicity is publicity. Whatever, who cares? That's crazy, though.
Speaker 1:Fucking, wow, grandma, anyway.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so the next hot goss is your boy over here made a TMZ headlines, which one Me yeah, I wasn't TMZ, but I thought this was funny. Brianna is like can you look up a hot guy? So now it's like yeah, let me look one up. And on TMZ I was like oh, I saw Matthew Perry fucking overdosed on ketamine. That's how he died Is that his name?
Speaker 1:I didn't know that. I didn't know that. Is it it the guy? No, no, no.
Speaker 2:And then I was like there was other shit and I was like these are kind of lame. I was like bad bunny and what's your name?
Speaker 1:Kendall broke up, but I don't want to talk about them.
Speaker 2:And then I was like you know what I'm going to talk about this. So I've been a fan of Laguna Beach since the beginning. I even followed the city, jason and everything after no. So I was on TikTok and I saw that Spencer Pratt has this live stream all the time and he's he got really big in the crystals and the reason I fuck with Spencer Pratt I used to hate him because he fucked up Heidi and Lauren's friendship.
Speaker 2:And I'm team Lauren, you know, but team LC. I seen this guy was getting his shit together Like he started doing Jiu Jitsu. So he started doing like shit. That was normal and he always seemed so aggressive. You know they painted him out to be like that, but when you do Jiu Jitsu you obviously you roll every day. You know, with people On the mat rolling on the mat, yeah, on the mat.
Speaker 1:So I was on his live and I was like, dude, this guy's fucking killing it.
Speaker 2:Dude, I'm happy. You know people like I love bounce back stories. So if you have like a shitty life and you're like a shitty person but you bounce back and you start trying to do good, I'm just like, oh, I'm, I'm, I fuck with you, like I'm into that. And so I've seen that he was like doing decent shit like through the years. And when I saw this I was like, oh shit. I commented on his Tik Tok five. I was like, oh, like, oh, this is it?
Speaker 2:I was like dude. I was like this is sick or something. I was like, dude, you still rolling or no? This shows how old we are. And I was like, oh, what's this guy gonna say? I was like I wonder if he's going to see those like I don't know 200, 500, 300 people on the live. I was like I hope he sees it. And he's like, hey, chris, what's up? But he's like, no, I'm not rolling, no more player, no, I don't do that. I said huh, and I was looking at it. I was like what? I was like I just saw you like this last couple of years and then I wasn't able to comment anymore and I said what the fuck is he talking about?
Speaker 2:And someone else commented that hey he met rolling like Jiu Jitsu and you should have seen his face. It was like oh yeah. He was like oh shit, he's like oh no, no, no, I just muted Chris, I didn't block him, but no, uh, uh, I know what he meant. He didn't fucking know what I meant.
Speaker 1:So you could tell that he's not.
Speaker 2:Yes, he was just like, oh yeah, I could, I could tell I couldn't. And I was trying to comment, because after he said I was, I just muted him. I was trying to comment to be like oh, I didn't fucking mean it, like that dude. And I told Brianna and she's like rolling means ecstasy, that you do ecstasy. I was like I swear to God I did not know, that I had no idea and so it made me look like a fucking dickhead.
Speaker 1:No, I don't think that makes you look like that? I don't think it makes you look like that.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, he's selling crystals, which isn't like I don't really care about that, but it was cool to see him. So I was like dude, you're still rolling like, still doing Jiu Jitsu and stuff. And he took it like, are you still doing ecstasy? And I was like dude, why the fuck would I say that?
Speaker 1:Why would some random person say hey, are you still rolling on ecstasy?
Speaker 2:And then when he read someone else's comment, he's like, oh no, I knew what Chris meant. I just why would you mute me if I fucking said he was rolling Jiu Jitsu? So I was just like, damn, I'm in this fucking Hollywood drama now.
Speaker 1:I don't know if I can take this.
Speaker 2:Oh sorry I really was like happy to see him doing good throughout the years, but when I got muted I was like damn, that's a bitch move.
Speaker 1:We all know there was a point in time where he did. Maybe he was, I don't know if even if he was.
Speaker 2:but I didn't mean that. And then I was like, damn, I'm in this fucking, you were in his head.
Speaker 1:I'm too famous now. Oh sorry, I need to take a pause. Sorry, tony, surprise.
Speaker 2:But anyway, I thought that was fucking hilarious and I was like dude, this guy fucking muted me. I thought I was like Brianna's, like that means ecstasy idiot.
Speaker 1:I know, I was like, I was like oh, my God, how old are we?
Speaker 2:I'm too old, I don't even I'm old. I was just like, yeah, whatever, I'm not going to buy a crystal anymore, I'm not going to buy a crystal with the sterling silver necklace, oh nice. Anyway, I thought that was funny and I wanted to be selfish and put myself in the hot.
Speaker 1:Wow. You put yourself in the hot glass. You said you're born. I was like wait. Shia Ryan Gosling who is this? Do you know who you married?
Speaker 2:Me.
Speaker 1:Yes, I do.
Speaker 2:Anyway, I thought that was fucking hilarious. Yeah, you're cute.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's it, that's all I got. That's it, that's all I got.
Speaker 2:We're glad to be back.
Speaker 1:We're glad to be back and we're also going to be coming out with like a little, a little holiday.
Speaker 2:Drink.
Speaker 1:Drink yes, Montage.
Speaker 2:We filmed it right before this and I was very grumpy. I apologize to you about it, but it's. It's a delicious drink.
Speaker 1:You actually came out very good yeah.
Speaker 2:I came out really good. You guys should try it. I was quite shocked.
Speaker 1:I was very, I drank it.
Speaker 2:I was like what.
Speaker 1:This is nice, holy shit.
Speaker 2:But what was it called?
Speaker 1:A campfire meal.
Speaker 2:A campfire meal. We're going to post it on our Instagram and TikTok and put the recipe and you guys should definitely try it and tag us if you do.
Speaker 1:Please, can you please make it and just tag us, even if you don't drink it. Actually drink it while you're wrapping your kids gifts.
Speaker 2:Just tag us in everything you post. I mean, if it has nothing to do with your drinks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, tag us in the picture of your dog picture of your car, of your girlfriend socks, okay. Anyways, last thing is our skeletons in the closet.
Speaker 2:Yes, we're still doing it.
Speaker 1:We are, so call it 5624570613. Yeah.
Speaker 2:So that number is for our skeletons in the closet hotline If you have anything to get off your chest, any secrets, any advice. We play it anonymously and we laugh about it and talk about it and try to give you advice to overcome it. Yeah yeah, we appreciate you guys tuning in and we'll catch you on the flip flop later.