Formerly Unreal with Lydia Greene and Steph Kemmerer

How should we treat famous people who appear to be leaving behind conspiracist beliefs? How can we encourage them to take additional steps to form a shared reality without allowing it to become a game to increase their influence? How do we eventually come to trust someone in this position? The recent heelturn of Marjorie Taylor Greene gives us the perfect reason to discuss this situation. Lydia Greene (@formerantivax on twitter) and Steph Kemmerer join me to discuss how to navigate some of our future parasocial relationships with unreal politicians.

Links
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marjorie_Taylor_Greene
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/back-to-the-vax-a-journey-back-to-evidence-based-medicine/id1558912904
https://vromansbookstore.com/event/2026-01-06/noelle-cook
https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/local/idaho-press/the-unlikely-stories-pam-hemphill-idaho/277-7c72e2af-7d85-46ef-9b91-b4715f092111