179 | Hitting a Growth Wall? Here's What to Expect Next

You made it through the launch. You survived the first year. You’ve built momentum. But now… things are stalling.

In Episode 179 of the Fly on the Wall podcast, I talk with David and Randall—church planters in L.A.—about breaking the 120 barrier and the realities of leading beyond year four.

Here’s what we unpack in this raw, practical coaching convo:

✅ Why growing churches must move from ministering to people to ministering through people

✅ The surprising danger of keeping the same leaders who got you here

✅ The “cement to concrete” problem and how it slows momentum

✅ What I believe are the 3 most mission-critical hires every church should prioritize

✅ A traffic light system for wise decision-making (especially around buildings and campuses)

If you’re past survival mode and wondering what’s next, this is the episode you’ve been waiting for.

And if you’re the kind of leader who loves these conversations and wants to help others grow—have you considered becoming a certified Church Boom Coach? It’s online, at your pace, and could be your next best step.

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Fly on the Wall Podcast, presented by Church Boom, takes pastors into a live coaching session with Chris Sonksen, CEO & Founder of Church Boom. Each episode features a pastor, just like you, as they share the challenges they face and get practical advice on how to overcome them.