Fly on the Wall Podcast With Chris Sonksen

REPLAY: Episode 180 | What Growing Churches Often Miss—and Stuck Churches Must Fix

Church Boom

Momentum is a powerful gift—but it can also be deceiving.

That’s why we’re bringing back one of the most listened-to episodes of the entire year on the Fly on the Wall Podcast. In Episode 180, I sit down with my good friend Chris Norman to talk about the two most common places pastors get stuck: when the church is growing… and when it’s not.

Pastors told us this conversation hit home because it speaks to both seasons with honest clarity and practical solutions.

This top episode is packed with insight, including:
 ✅ Why momentum hides weakness—and what to do before it runs out
 ✅ How to break free from “the weeds” and lead from the right level
 ✅ The four rings that pull you away from your mission-critical calling
 ✅ Why your biggest limitation might be the way you see your own situation
 ✅ The simple “Boxes and Batons” framework to measure real discipleship—not just attendance

Whether you're scaling fast or wondering why growth has stalled, this conversation will help you refocus your leadership where it matters most.

And if you’re serious about growing yourself while you grow your church, don’t miss Church Boom University—our digital coaching platform full of masterclasses, tools, and practical help for pastors like you.

🎧 Tune in to one of our top episodes of the year: Episode 180

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Fly on the Wall Podcast, presented by Church Boom, takes pastors into a live coaching session with Chris Sonksen, CEO & Founder of Church Boom. Each episode features a pastor, just like you, as they share the challenges they face and get practical advice on how to overcome them.