Fly on the Wall Podcast With Chris Sonksen
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Fly on the Wall Podcast With Chris Sonksen
211 | The Real Reason Your Church Feels Stuck
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Ever feel like your church is growing… but not actually moving forward?
You see new people come.
You feel momentum building.
And then somehow… it slips back again.
In Episode 211 of the Fly on the Wall Podcast, Chris sits down with Matthew to tackle one of the most common (and frustrating) realities in ministry:
breaking through growth barriers and becoming a “sticky” church.
This conversation gets incredibly practical.
Here’s what you’ll take away:
- Why most churches stay stuck between growth and decline
- The concept of a “church dashboard”—and how to identify exactly where things are breaking down
- Why your problem might not be attendance… but engagement
- The truth about “speed of engagement” (and why waiting too long is costing you people)
- Why systems—not just great services—actually change behavior
- How to shift your scorecard from attendance to engagement metrics that drive growth
- The difference between building teams vs. building tribes
- Why simplicity—not more programs—is the key to breaking past 100
One of the most powerful lines from this episode:
“Messages inspire, but systems change behavior.”
If people are coming but not staying, it’s not a passion problem—it’s a process problem.
👉 Listen to Episode 211 and sit in on this coaching session:
And if you’re ready to stop guessing and start growing with clarity, check out churchboom.org—especially executive coaching. Having someone walk with you through these challenges changes everything.
Let’s break the barrier.
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Fly on the Wall Podcast, presented by Church Boom, takes pastors into a live coaching session with Chris Sonksen, CEO & Founder of Church Boom. Each episode features a pastor, just like you, as they share the challenges they face and get practical advice on how to overcome them.