Fly on the Wall Podcast With Chris Sonksen

220 | The Secret to Finding—and Keeping—Great Leaders

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Every pastor wants great leaders.

The challenge is finding them.

And even when you do find them, how do you keep them engaged, growing, and committed to the vision God has given your church?

In Episode 220 of the Fly on the Wall Podcast, I sit down with Pastor Josh for a practical conversation about identifying leadership potential, developing future leaders, building healthy teams, and creating a church culture that attracts high-capacity people.

If you've ever wondered why some churches seem to have a steady pipeline of strong leaders while others constantly struggle to fill key roles, this episode is for you.

In this episode, we discuss:

  • The most important leadership lesson I've learned after decades in ministry
  • Why great leaders surround themselves with great people
  • How to identify leadership potential inside your church
  • The difference between being capable and being truly gravitational
  • Why vision must be big enough for people to want to follow
  • How leadership circles create a powerful pipeline for future leaders
  • The role coaching has played in my personal leadership growth
  • Mistakes leaders make when hiring and building teams
  • Why you should "pay attention to the tension" before making key decisions
  • Practical strategies for helping guests become fully engaged church members
  • The overlooked follow-up system that can dramatically increase church growth


One of my favorite moments in this conversation is when we discuss the idea that people don't just follow vision—they follow leaders. The way you lead, communicate, care for people, and carry yourself often determines whether talented people want to join your team.

If you're looking to strengthen your leadership pipeline, develop future staff members, and build a church culture that attracts high-level leaders, this episode is packed with practical wisdom you can apply immediately.

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Fly on the Wall Podcast, presented by Church Boom, takes pastors into a live coaching session with Chris Sonksen, CEO & Founder of Church Boom. Each episode features a pastor, just like you, as they share the challenges they face and get practical advice on how to overcome them.