Fly on the Wall Podcast With Chris Sonksen
Be a “Fly on the Wall” as Chris Sonksen takes you behind the scenes on a coaching call with a ministry leader. In each episode, you’ll get to hear how a coaching call happens, practical tips on how to grow your ministry, and what it takes to be a healthy leader in today's culture. You'll get to be a "fly on the wall" and listen to a live coaching session between Chris and a church leader like yourself.
Fly on the Wall Podcast With Chris Sonksen
222 | Don't Let Your Calling Become a Career
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Most pastors don't wake up one day and decide to become complacent.
It happens slowly.
The passion that once fueled the calling begins to feel more like routine. The dreams get replaced with responsibilities. Before long, ministry can start feeling more like a career than the calling God originally placed on your life.
In Episode 222 of the Fly on the Wall Podcast, I sat down with Pastor Bill Savage for an honest conversation about coaching, leadership, volunteer teams, and one of the greatest dangers pastors face after years in ministry.
Because every leader eventually has to wrestle with this question:
"Am I still leading with the same hunger I had when God first called me?"
It's a conversation every pastor needs to hear—whether you've been leading for two years or twenty.
Here's some of what we unpack:
- Why every pastor—regardless of church size—needs coaching
- The difference between a mentor and a leadership coach
- Why coaching is an investment, not an expense
- Practical ways to lead and develop volunteer staff members
- How to maximize the limited time your volunteer leaders have
- Why priority management matters more than time management
- Creative ways to stay connected with volunteer leaders without overwhelming them
- How to avoid drifting into autopilot after years in ministry
- The powerful contrast between the two Sauls in Scripture—and what every leader can learn from them
One of the most challenging moments in the conversation was this reminder:
"Life and ministry start as a calling. If we're not careful, they slowly become a career."
The difference between finishing well and simply surviving often comes down to what happens in the middle.
Will we keep learning?
Will we keep dreaming?
Will we stay humble enough to receive coaching and hungry enough to keep growing?
If you've been in ministry for any length of time, I believe this episode will encourage you, challenge you, and help you lead with fresh intentionality.
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Fly on the Wall Podcast, presented by Church Boom, takes pastors into a live coaching session with Chris Sonksen, CEO & Founder of Church Boom. Each episode features a pastor, just like you, as they share the challenges they face and get practical advice on how to overcome them.