Fly on the Wall Podcast With Chris Sonksen
Be a “Fly on the Wall” as Chris Sonksen takes you behind the scenes on a coaching call with a ministry leader. In each episode, you’ll get to hear how a coaching call happens, practical tips on how to grow your ministry, and what it takes to be a healthy leader in today's culture. You'll get to be a "fly on the wall" and listen to a live coaching session between Chris and a church leader like yourself.
Fly on the Wall Podcast With Chris Sonksen
224 | What Has to Change Before Your Church Can Grow?
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Growth is exciting.
But growth also asks something of us.
The systems that supported yesterday's ministry often won't sustain tomorrow's. If we want to lead our churches to the next level, we have to be willing to grow before the church does.
In Episode 224 of the Fly on the Wall Podcast, I sat down with Pastor Justin for a practical conversation about preparing your church for growth before growth arrives.
Because every pastor eventually faces this question:
"What needs to change in me and my church before God can trust us with more?"
This conversation is full of practical leadership principles for pastors who are ready to move from one season of growth to the next.
Here's some of what we unpack:
- Why every new season of growth requires new structures
- The difference between the nature of your church and the structure that supports it
- How to identify the leadership "lids" that can hold your church back
- Why the speed of engagement is one of the strongest predictors of healthy church growth
- How a simple 90-Day Run can help more people get connected and stay engaged
- Practical ways to create accountability with your staff around measurable goals
- Why focusing on activities—not just results—produces lasting growth
- How to use the 12-Week Year framework to keep your team moving forward
- The importance of surrounding yourself with high-capacity leaders as your church grows
One of the biggest takeaways from the conversation was this reminder:
"Focus on the activity, not just the result."
Attendance is the outcome.
The real work is creating healthy systems that connect people, develop leaders, and move them into the life of the church. When those activities become your focus, healthy growth follows.
If your church is growing—or you're believing God for the next season of growth—I think this episode will give you practical tools to help you prepare now for what God wants to do next.
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Fly on the Wall Podcast, presented by Church Boom, takes pastors into a live coaching session with Chris Sonksen, CEO & Founder of Church Boom. Each episode features a pastor, just like you, as they share the challenges they face and get practical advice on how to overcome them.