Tuesday Morning With Justin: Healthcare, Leadership & Life

Good Luck With That Referral

Justin Futrell Season 7 Episode 3

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A referral can feel like help, but when you’re the one making the calls, waiting weeks, guessing at quality, and praying the bills “make sense,” it’s not coordination, it’s homework. I’m Justin Futrell, a benefit advisor at True North Companies, and I’m digging into what happens when primary care isn’t enough and the stakes move from routine care to specialty care.

I walk through a simple migraine example to show two very different paths. One is the familiar “good luck” referral where you search on your own, hope the specialist is in network, and hope the care is actually high quality. The other is what direct primary care and concierge health can do when it’s working at its best: an independent primary care relationship that knows the specialists they trust, understands outcomes, and can guide you to the right next step like a vestibular therapist or another specialist who can actually move the needle.

We also talk openly about incentives. If urgent care is owned by a hospital system, how often do you think they send patients to a competing system, even when it might be a better fit? That’s why employer-provider partnerships matter, especially for self-funded employers that can contract with transparent, collaborative, accountable surgery centers, imaging facilities, and specialty groups so employees aren’t entering specialty care blindly.

If you’ve ever wondered who should choose your specialist when it really matters, this is for you. Subscribe, share with a coworker, and leave a review if you want more practical breakdowns like this.

Music by Alex Lambert.

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Contact Justin via text 740-525-5259 or via email JFutrell@TrueNorthCompanies.com

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Thanks again to my musically gifted friend Alex Lambert for the music. Also thanks to Kevin Asehan for the edits. 

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Welcome to another Tuesday morning with Justin. I'm Justin Futrel, benefit advisor at True North Companies, and today we are going to focus on what happens when primary care isn't enough. One of the biggest misconceptions around direct primary care

Primary Care Is Not The Finish Line

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or concierge health, as you may have heard it called, is that people think it stops with primary care. It doesn't. In fact, the real value begins when something serious happens. Here's what I mean. Let's say I'm a patient and I'm having some migraines. I go to my primary care because I'm not having luck with um, but we're not having any luck with the basic treatments, let's say. Route one, as we talked about last week, my primary care

A Migraine Problem Meets Two Paths

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might say, hey, here's a referral. Good luck. I call a few offices, I do some research on my own, I wait a few weeks. I hope I find someone good. I hope they're in network. I hope it's good quality, and I hope the bills make sense. Um let me pause there. Think of two major healthcare systems near you, wherever you are in the country. Think of two major healthcare systems near you. They're competitors, right? So, how often do you think

Why Systems Keep Referrals In House

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they advise going outside of their hospital system? And you think about going to an urgent care, it's owned by a healthcare system, they're probably going to be referring you to their own health system. You think they'd get in trouble if if they weren't, or if they were sending people to the competing hospital, it would be a misaligned incentive for that hospital system. So I I want us to be rooted in the fact that sometimes a hospital might be really good at something and then not good at something else. It's rooted in data. We have data to prove it. Okay, back on track. Let's say we go Route 2. We go to our primary care, uh, whether that's an on-site clinic or just a trusted primary care physician who already knows you. They're independent, they're not a part of a healthcare system. They know the specialists they trust. They know I'm having

Independent Doctors Who Navigate Specialty Care

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migraines and they can't help solve my problem. They need a specialist. They need a vestibular therapist who has the best outcomes for my migraines. Instead of giving you directions, they help navigate the entire journey. That's where employer-provider partnerships become really powerful. Imagine a self-funded employer, think of a company with 100 or more people in general. They can identify orthopedic groups, surgery centers, imaging facilities, and specialists who are willing to be transparent with their prices, be collaborative, be accountable. Now, employees are entering the specialty care world blindly. They're being guided with high value care. Think about it this way: if your child needed heart surgery, would you pick a surgeon from the directory, or would you want a trusted physician to tell you, if this were my family member, here's exactly where I would send them. That's the difference. The value isn't the referral, the value is the trusted handoff. The future of healthcare isn't primary care for specialist. The future is better coordination between the two. Because the right specialist can dramatically

The Trusted Handoff Plus Cancer Preview

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improve the outcomes, and employers have the power to create this. We got some good things cooking. That's all I'm gonna say for today. And next week, I want to talk about I want to focus on cancer. And um, what I want you to be thinking about in the interim is how can we get ahead of cancer claims? Thanks for listening. See you next week.