Dead Poets, Earthquakes, Mr. “Snow” And AI Layoffs

The Reykjavík Grapevine's Iceland Roundup brings you the top news with a healthy dash of local views. In this episode, Grapevine publisher Jón Trausti Sigurðarson is joined by Grapevine’s Editor-in-Chief Bart Cameron, and Grapevine friend and contributor Sindri Eldon to roundup the stories making headlines in recent weeks. On the docket this week are: 

Should Iceland’s National Poet, Jónas Hallgrímsson, Be Dug Up

Jónas Hallgrímsson was a poet and writer who was born in 1807. In 1845 he died after falling down a flight of stairs in Copenhagen whilst drunk. For the past 30 years his birthday, 16 November, has been celebrated as The Day Of The Icelandic Language. In 1946 his remains were moved to Iceland and buried in a new Icelandic national burial ground in Þingvellir. Whether or not it were in fact his remains that were moved from Denmark and buried in Þingvellir remains shrouded in mystery. Not least because the main proponent for finding the remains and moving them was convinced he was in telepathic communication with Jónas, and that communication was the main source of figuring out where the remains were to be found. The ridicule surrounding that led to nobody else ever being buried on the location, and aside from the alleged remains of Jónas Hallgrímsson, another poet, Einar Benediktsson also rests in the sacral plot. Now, documentary makers want to dig up those remains and subject them to a DNA analysis to figure out whether it is in fact Jónas that was buried there, or — as was the popular joke in the 1940s — if it was in fact a Danish baker. 

A 4,5 Earthquake Just East Of Reykjavík

Monday 1 June saw a 4,5 earthquake with over 1100 subsequent smaller quakes happen in a place called Svínahraun, just east of Reykjavík, near the Hellisheiði geothermal power plant. The area is geologically active, so this is in a sense not an unusual development, although such a large earthquake is rare. In other geologically related news, vulcanologists, geologists and the people of Grindavík are still waiting for the next eruption to matieralise near that town and the Blue Lagoon. However, new research on that volcanic system has indicated that even though the magma chamber under the Blue Lagoon has by now built up more magma than before all of the previous eruptions, an eruption might not take place at all. 

In Iceland, Your Name Can Now Be Snow

Regularly, the Icelandic Naming Committee decides what names our children can and can not have. This week the committee decided that children can be named “Snjór” or snow, “Molly” and “Sifjar” to name a few. The names Mikhael and Danivaan were however rejected.

Rapyd Lays Off 40 People, Citing AI

One of Iceland’s few payment providers, Rapyd, announced recently that they have laid off 40 people, and replaced them with AI. In the past few years Rapyd has been experiencing some business problems, so the word on the street is that perhaps the whole AI framing is just a ploy to mask actual financial difficulties, or if not, perhaps these are the first AI related mass layoffs in Iceland

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Hello and welcome to Iceland Rountup. Hello and welcome to Golem Dame. Where uh we here at the Reg of Ripon make an honest attempt of rounding up the last week of Icelandic News. With us today are the lowest energy anything in the history of Mac. Oh, come on. It was fine. That was fine. The smacking noise made me laugh. I liked it. I thought it was. He's not chewing gum, he's just smacking his own face. I should just I'm just taking pauses for emphasis. Is it more suit? Is this the problem? I liked the noise. Okay. I think it was like a subtle. Sorry. It's like a Kramer. So what is there? Barth Cameron making fun of me, Sintereldon making fun of me, and me, Yon Tristy making fun of me. Well, we were there you go and now we have a bing. Oh, you need to give it to you. You've got to give blood. Yeah, I have to donate blood. Oh no, I need to. It's not, you know, your blood is not yours. It belongs to the people. It belongs to your country. Did you enter your blood? You probably have entered your blood into the system. Oh yeah, I gave blood years ago. What are you, like an A? No. O O minus? You're an O negative? Oh, you are the I've justified my existence in Iceland. Yeah, this is the uh people listen to type O negative? Yes. Yes, yeah. Yeah, they're underrated, I feel like. They're better than my blood. This is what my No, this is good. This is like every every man's blood in Iceland. This is the most common blood group in Iceland. And it kind of fits with all the other blood groups. Wait, what? What's the most common one? O minus? I'm I'm O positive, which I was told was also very common. But uh it turns out during the smallpox, the people of Irish heritage um survived at a greater rate than others. Yeah, which means of their blood? I should have died from smallpox. It was smallpox, right? Yeah, or something like that. I think they've kind of been pondering why there is a bigger prominence of all plus or negative in Iceland compared to other places in the world. And for the longest time they thought it was genetics. Now they're thinking maybe it's something else. It's all in a flux. I'm not sure. Yeah, I don't know how to case science. Tomorrow's bullshit. Yeah, exactly. Like all this blood science stuff that it you know, they're always changing. They don't know what the fuck they're talking about. And they'll find like a GLP one or something where they're like, it turns out the reason you were heavy was it was your brain. It had nothing to do with anything else. And we could have given you a shot the whole time. People seem desperate to try to attribute like a significance to your blood type, don't they? They seem they really like this must mean something, but like they just they just refuses to yield anything but like it's total bullshit. Trevor Burrus, Jr. But do you have to donate right away, or do we still have to go to see the new mayor? Uh no, I can't. It's now in Kingland. It's kind of far away in the shopping mall. But they have you have to you have to talk to the mayor before you give blood? But there is now a blood truck. They've been building a blood truck. I think when I gave blood, one of the things they asked me, like, have you in the last 24 hours have you shake shaked hands with the mayor, who at that time was Villeville. Uh yeah, you can't give any blood. I don't think I don't think the mayor will shake our hand. Sure she will. Is that the is that the plan? Oh yeah. We'll go for it. Yeah. Okay, so that's our plan for the day. You have such low self-esteem. Why wouldn't the mayor shake your hand? I wouldn't shake my hand. I'm like, this is the mayor. I'm going the full Icelandic way. I'm going in for a hug and settling with a handshake. Oh, she'd hate that. Yes. She's not doesn't strike me as a hugger. No. No, no. It's uh it's it's front, it's not frontibon. A lot of people. I I obviously she's a friend of a friend for me. Um I've heard nothing about I I don't know if I agree with probably any of her policies, but I've heard nothing about positive on the phone. There's a certain Yeah, I I only heard good things j generally, and and you know, this is Hildor Bjornson we're talking about. For for people who have been in public life for a long time, it's kind of unusual if you only hear good things. She probably does this is the Solstares Flocur. This is the Independence. We're talking about the Independence Party the immediate D. Right. She probably does the Independence Party, you know, like the handshake where they pat you on the back as well? Oh yeah, go on. Oh, go on the window. For you, but again, I'm not sure. I should point out, yeah, I'm gonna show you this. This is an old trick from politics. Yeah. You do it like this, so you can read these. That looks like a Tony Blair. That's like a full thing. Yeah, it's a full Tony Blair. This is like a this is like a Dale Carnegie thing, but it's a self-protentional thing in politics, because you know, back in the day you got squeezed by the constituencies, and you would have to get out of that thing. So there's a whole bag of tricks to like not get your hand broken by a jackantic. This is the party that holds the bag of tricks and guards it like like treasure. I wish we could play music because Precious tricks. There's that Scottish band who are friends of ice on Islands Vienner called Withered Hand, and they have a song detailing the uh the handshake frustration with these uh A-types. Cool. I should check them out. I love I love Scottish bands. I have established a few uh Yes, yes. Yeah. A few friendships based on my solid handshakes in my lifetime. People people are always yapping about all these, you know, how Iceland makes great music. It's like fucking Scotland makes amazing music. Nobody ever seems to talk about it. We yeah, we like all the all the good shit that we have. We have a lot of Scottish overlap, especially the musicians tend to be friends. We have some Welsh friends, obviously, in our in our orbit, right? But um and we've got well, there's the Welsh back. Are these Welsh friends in the room with us now? It's uh it's either Welsh ghosts or Welsh spooks. I'm not sure which it is. Um we were talking about Richard Burton before, so I don't think he was a friend of Iceland, though, sadly. I I just when I picture like Welsh people, I uh instantly uh I think of Terry Jones like from Monty Python. Yeah. But Adam, I'm not sure he was even Welsh, but he did a lot of Welsh people on Flying Circus. Um No, and then we're actually planning to interview the Hebridean baker for um for the for the Great Funny Podcast because uh it turns out yeah. Are we gonna get baked? Yeah, we're gonna get into some serious baking with Scottish people because uh some of the outer islands have a lot in common with what we're doing in tourism and trying to bring intelligent tourism coverage. Yeah, people I think people by now forget that these things exist. Intelligent tourism, yeah. That's a hard one to remember. It's a hard one to believe in. So yeah, for example. So a niche belief, if you will. The Reiki Victor Greyfond does cover tourism, but we don't really cover the basic tourism of like um, I don't know, what to do in 12 hours. We're talking about like how to really engage with the culture. Not really a fire and ice kind of paper. Yeah, as demonstrated by my uh offensive email to BioPadis, and I apologize to BioPadides. Uh I don't want to talk about fire and ice. And if somebody asks me about fire and ice, you might get like I might snap at you like a little terrier dog. Fire ice, fire. Um we get some news out of the way? Yeah, let's. Other than that you need to get blood, yeah. Yeah. And the new mayor is today. New mayor today. Uh, I should donate some of my precious A-whate the hell it is. Yeah. I think I should have died from smallpox, according to the city. You don't even know your own blood? It's A minus. Oh, okay. You sounded so uncertain. I I think to be coy about it. Yeah, okay. No, I think it's I literally can't remember. Oh shit. It's something A. Anyway. Uh we have like a few things. So I was amused by uh a documentary. There's a documentary people who want to dig up. He said dig. Dig, dig up Jonah Satkinson, the 19th century poet. We're gonna talk about that in a little while. We had a four-point. Find out how much syphilis he had, or uh no, but I'll get to it. Uh there's uh oh I see, you're just doing the overview. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Is that what it's called? Control the jokes? Control the senses. Let's control my my constant panic over some of the jokes. Like hey, you American, are you saying our poet was syphilitic? And uh I am the American, by the way. Is it too soon to talk about Jonas Hutchkinson? I I'm sorry, my timing on these things is off. It was the 19th century. But for me, somehow it probably is. Just the way it went. The one thing I remember from tenth grade history. Yeah, so uh we had a 4.5 uh the teacher writing it on the whiteboard, syphilis. Ah, delightful. All right, kids. Today today we're learning about poetry again. Speaking of syphilis, uh uh we had a 4.5 earthquake just eats the reco I guess today. We're gonna talk about that. And for which I yelled at my son in the office. He was here yesterday. And I said, Cecil, stop pounding on the floor. Oh wow. Of course his feet were up, so I and uh they're not just frustrated that he was pounding on the floor with his feet up. Seemed impossible. You're kidding. A couple minutes later, like my ass and bowling. In Iceland, your name can now be Snor or Snow. Yeah, we're gonna do the naming Cosmetic thing once over once more. Yay. We're so progressive. Rapid rapid dependent service in Iceland, late of 40 people citing AI. Ah, that those people can get fucked in such a graphic manner that is it the first I think it's the first thing. JG Ballard would struggle to describe the ways in which that company can get fucked. Ooh, JG Ballard discussion group. Go. Yes, I didn't expect you to refer to that. Fantastic. I think that's trying to think of the most distasteful sex I've ever read in a book. Oh, I thought you were gonna I thought you were gonna say like somebody you would really like. No, I like I like JG Ballard. Yeah. Uh it's the first mass layup in Iceland that I think cites AI as a reason. Okay. So we're catching up with the rest of the world. Woo! And then uh Icelanders negotiation with its pilots is still ongoing. Uh I think they cancelled over 40 flights in the past couple of three weeks or so. And we'll get into that and tourism in general. Okay. And then we'll be a new session, maybe? Then we'll go see the mayor. Mayor the mayor mayor. But I want it stuffed with poetry. S Y P no, how does it go here? Are you familiar with the yellow rope? Sorry. I don't yeah. No. That's I don't use this word often enough to spell it. I'm sorry. That's just that's just uh have people Google what that means. Uh so Jonas Atkinson. Yeah. Johnny Boy we celebrate every November. He's on some money, right? Yeah, he's on the 10,000 colour. Yeah, because I was like, ooh, that Jon I I used to call that a Jonas. It's just like, well, that'll be something you see something expensive, that'll be a couple of Jonas's. So for the past three decades, this November 16th, we we celebrate the day of the Icelandic language, which is his birthday. Okay. So it's your Robert Burns Day. Yeah, I guess so. He gave birth to the Icelandic language. Uh means the Icelandic language probably has syphilis too. Yeah, it's original sin, isn't it? Yeah, right. It's it's uh it's congenital. It can be, I think. Uh I'm not a sp I'm not a specialist. Yeah, no. I'm basing my medical knowledge of it on uh Black Adder, so I probably know I knew a person who actually died from syphilis, which is kind of uh very 19th century. Yeah, that's that's pretty made in Sweden right there, I gotta say. Yeah, it's a weird one, but it's that's a while it's a while back. It's an acquaintance. I just a person I knew of. May this person rest. I'm sorry. Sorry, I didn't mean to No no anyway. Uh just kind of bringing you guys down a little bit here. It worked. I don't want to joke about dead people, I actually But who's our great gonerrilla poet? I want to say maybe I just thought of five names. Hell good. I want to say something like uh, you know uh the guy from uh some guy from Sattelphos, probably in uh in a band in the 90s. Bedrock. I was just watching videos of Shion. Doing Johnny National at the Punk Museum is really cool. Johnny National. Yeah I'd love to see Shion doing Johnny impression. That would be funny. I don't think Shion really does impressions. So Shon is a is a great contemporary poet. And a writer. Very prolific uh writer of fiction. Yeah. So uh anyway, Jonas Hatkin's on the who in no way represents gonorrhea in the Icelandic. No, he was a book. But and you can get his books in in English. Yeah. Uh it's uh it's the Psalm, right? Psalms of No, that's Jonas that's the that's the Halkrim Piederson. Okay, so what do we get from Jonas Hotel? Jonas is There's too many fucking Jonas has written a bunch of names. Kind of well known poetry stuff from the nineteenth century. Yeah. But mainly he's like a guy who added a lot of new words to the Icelandic language, which we still can celebrate. That's impossible because I know that if you speak Icelandic, you can read the sagas. Well, the why we can do that is probably because of Jonas and his contemporaries who were in the kind of in the business of remaking the Icelandic language in a classical 19th century nationalistic style based on the Sio manuscripts. It's almost as if we should be celebrating innovation in our language instead of choking it to death with a bunch of uh obsolete rules. Uh don't you think? Well uh so I just can't wait to get into the it's it's kind of like the neuromantic thing or the actual original romantic thing. Yeah, yeah, but Jonas invented a lot of bunch of words too. Like syphilis? What's the Icelandic word for syphilis? I don't even know. Gonorrhea is like liacanti, right? Yeah, I think syphilis, I think it's just uh hasn't Grapevine done like at least two articles about this? Like the Icelandic word for syphilis? No, like various VDs and what they're called here, because like this is sort of a problem here, right? The gonorrhea, especially, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Because they've got resistant uh antibiotic resistant gonorrhea. Yeah, you know. It's kind of like if everybody has it, nobody has it kind of thing. I'm kidding. Uh well, the stats are pretty bad for anyone. So let's just say that statistically, you know, a certain amount of people in this room. No, I'm not gonna let's I'll just leave it at that. So Jonas Hatgerson was born in 1807. He is a poet, he's well known in Iceland. We learned him in school. And he died uh kinda like in his 30s uh after getting drunk and falling down a flight of stairs in Copenhagen in 1845. Ah, yes. And um basically he's great by mature. Yeah. Yeah, he would have worked here like uh 200 years ago. We just lost somebody in Copenhagen, right? One of our old writers. Uh from syphilis? No, suicide, but uh I'm kidding. We the other Copenhagen. No, not a writer, not a writer, but uh yeah, let's not get into that. Sorry. Yeah, so uh essentially there is now a documentary being made about Jonas, and this is another sort of side story. Uh so in in you know, we I I thought it became independent in 1944. There was this like massive wave of nationalism, and we wanted to like have our own national graveyard of heroes, kind of like I guess Arlington or whatever the hell it is that you guys have in America. Yeah. Right? Uh yeah, yeah, yeah. Or like um there's a nice uh graveyard in Massachusetts, right, for their for our poets. But okay. Yeah, but like uh, you know, national hero, and they decided to have one in Think Adlit. We can't just have both like you can in America. Where's the old seat of the parliament, right? Right. So the one guy was put to rest there, and his name is Amy. Yeah, yeah. The Calio concert is having there. One guy was put to rest. This is how foreigners will know of it, isn't it? It's just like, oh yeah, the Calio venue. Yeah, that's for like the next thousand years. It'll be like, yeah, oh yeah, the Calio venue, sure. I still have a grave to watch Calio. Yeah, yeah. I in the like in early 1940s, uh kind of a famous innovator and and and uh poet, Einar Benetism, died, and he was buried there. He was the first one. Okay. He was known for like having sold the Northern Lights to uh British investors, and he was also prominent in the first sort of hydroelectric damn share. Okay those projects. But anyway. And then the idea was to he was a poet? Oh, yeah. Okay. He sounds more like. Yeah, he's he's a pretty decent poet, I would say. So anyway, uh next up was gonna be Jonas. Yeah. But there was kind of a problem. Nobody knew where Jonas was buried. This is this refers to one of my favorite Loxness books. Well, I guess it's a few of them, but Heimslos is one of my favorites. Yes. So World Light, which you can get in English, sorry. Yeah, but uh so uh obviously a massive problem. Like he died in Denmark, he was buried somewhere, and they had to find him. So this guy whose name I forget uh announced that he was having a telepathic communication with the ghost of Jonas Hatkinson, and based on his information, he went to Denmark. I just every time he every Is it what's his name? Meet it. Yeah, it was it was like a yeah, something like that. What's that guy's name again? The the famous medium, the Icelandic I can't remember. Yeah, the guy who's on radio. Is he dead now? I don't know. So this guy, based on this, goes to Denmark, collects some bones. In some random ass graveyard, and brings them to Iceland. And this is heavily publicized at the time. And his plan, because according to the deceased Jonas, he's talking to all the time. Yeah. Jonas wanted to be buried where he could was born up in the north on the way to Akurire. Yeah. But this was very like this was in the media, and when he arrives in the country with the bones, the Icelandic government decides to confiscate them because they are Icelandic national property, and bury whoever that is in those bones next to Einar Ben, I think we had lived in the national graveyard. And obviously. But he only told this to the medium. Yes. He never wrote this down or anything. Nobody knew anything about this. So like so the medium. Yeah, I mean, obviously, like because he's fucking dead. Like I I get it. This is sort of a a no-brainer, but you know But based on you know the medium's uh information, the Icelandic state decided to confiscate the bones and bury them at Thinkwedler. Oh god. And uh obviously, obviously, well, not obviously, but this I mean, some people took this seriously. Some other people, like Halto Lachsen, whom you just mentioned, found this to be absolutely hilarious. Yeah. And a bunch of people made so much fun of this at the time. It is hilarious. It's like please tell me you don't have like a list over there of other policy decisions based on mediums. I mean, have you ever heard of policy decision taken on the on on the advice of economists? Very similar. Voodoo economists, yeah, yeah. So obviously, this was made fun of by, amongst other things, our Nobel prize-winning guy Halter Luxness, who made fun of this in some of his books. And I do believe, and I'm not entirely sure about this, but the whole sort of ethos around this made that made it so that this idea of having like a cemetery for the national heroes kind of tied off with the alleged bones of a Danish baker, which I believe is uh uh probably Halter Luxness's joke here. Yeah. Uh had kind of contaminated the thing, or you know, just people thought it was an absolute joke after this. And the fact that the state has actually confiscated some nutcases, branded bones, and buried them, it just doesn't make any sense. So nobody can you can't even say that we as a as a people have like just grabbed, not even, not even like there's a stegosaurus line out here. We don't have any fucking dinosaur fossils, but here's some Danish baker. So that was a joke. I mean, uh it could be anybody, and uh not even the idea was good. It's like you want to say, oh, it's a good idea, but the execution was poor. It's like the idea was actually terrible too. So uh we stole these from Ripley's believe it or not. It was didn't have to dig, just went over to the Love Museum. Yeah. So uh as you as you can kind of tell by now, the the whole national graveyard thing didn't take off. Yeah. It just dissolved into uh a national embarrassment. Whatever we have an embarrassment, we always want to say yet. Yeah, but uh uh now there's uh documentary makers are doing a documentary on the units that they were requested to bury up those bones on DNA, to do a DNA test on them. Yeah, dig them up and do a DNA test, yeah. Which I would say I I totally approve of. I think that's just funny. But what I'm hoping we get out of this is like more than one DNA. It's just like a bunch of different bones. Oh, you get like twenty-five people. Yeah, but it's like uh it's a collection of random bones. Yeah. But uh to lay that issue to rest finally, was this Jonas? Was this even an Icelander? We will never know. Maybe we will. They'll get a person. Yeah. But I I wanted to mention this because this is like, you know, the uh national park there has kind of said we can't take up those bones without getting like a court order, blah blah blah. That's what's going on. But I just wanted to mention this to be able to tell you this magnificent story of uh telepathetic uh poets. I like telepathetic, it's definitely the way I would describe it. And how we do not have a national uh burial site, sort of, because of that whole embarrassment. Okay. Well, I need a breath after that one. Yeah, yeah. Wow. Yeah, that was um That was the news. That was the first news. Yeah, okay. So then we had a 4.5 earthquake yesterday. It's in Swinarun, uh I don't know, 30 kilometers east of Reykjavik. Piglava. Not even that, yeah. Piglava 25 maybe. It's exactly where the how'd they say the power plant is, the the geothermal plant that was built in the what time did this happen? 145. Yep. And all this whole building, we're in a wooden building downtown, shook our shook pretty decently. And um so I'm just struggling to remember what I was doing all day tomorrow, honestly. I can't even let alone 145. Like most of us, you can't tell whether it's like an earthquake or just more uh construction. Construction, right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is like, do we have enough construction to merit a bust? Like an economic blowout at this point. We'll get doing the construction in this fucking town. But it's you can't really tell. Uh but I went to the fucking library and they had construction there. Like I went to the library to work because it's supposed to be, you know, quiet. Yeah. It's just like even there, it cannot be done. So I love our library, but there is a lot of construction. The 4.5 earthquake had then more than 1,100 subsequent sort of smaller quakes. And it's next to the power plant that kind of keeps Rakerwick running. And always reassuring. Uh it is not highly unusual. So we like the whole Reykiness Peninsula is a geologically active area, and obviously we've been having uh eruptions in the past what seven years now or something? Six, five years. Yeah, this is like a place where an earthquake isn't like a bad or unusual thing, and uh, you know, it's it's usually no big thing. Yeah, I wrote the news story for the grapevine and it was noting how many earthquakes we have per month, and it was a decreased frequency, but it's thousands, right? It's many thousands. I was like, oh, this is terrifying. That's all the time. So it's business. That's like a geologist's definition of an earthquake, you know, like anything you can feel happens, what, like maybe once a year? Nah, it's more often now. But what I was gonna say is like Well, that's not what you want to hear. You know, uh another thing that kind of related is that in the news also this week was an interview with uh Thor de Soroson, the volcanologist and uh professor at the University of Iceland, he was talking about that he does not believe, based on a study the University of Iceland was doing with other universities, that the volcanic system that has been erupting in Krintawick for the past three years now will erupt again, even though it's built up a bunch of magma. Great. Thank you. That's good to know because it's terrifying what's happening. That's a terrifying thing. But uh just to reiterate that the last time we had these series of eruptions at the Rakenus Peninsula near Krintawig and Kapan will it doesn't actually make it into Kepler. Kaplog is a non-active area. Just to like you know, the airport is fine. But it doesn't have uh a fissure system. Uh that that was in the 13th century, and then you know, like most of these systems that are kind of running parallel from kind of west to east, they kind of went off one one after the other. So what you're always looking for is the next system that's gonna blow, and Hadley said it's one of those system that systems that potentially could go off. So the power. Yeah, well, uh I mean and this it's a similar situation because where the current system has been erupting, that's next to the Schwarzsengi power plant where the blue lagoon is, which uh takes care of the electricity on the hot water for all of uh Keplaik. Yeah. And they built like these massive berms, I guess they're called, protected walls around that. So maybe they're in for another riot at some point. But I mean in geological terms, you know, sooner than later. But it might be in a hundred years or five hundred years. But anyway, it's just a reminder that we're living on an active area and there's always earthquakes, and we might have another of those systems erupt in the next 10, 20, 30 years. That's kind of how it went the last time around. But we don't really know what we can base anything on in terms of that. Like, what does it tell us that it went off like a piano? What note after note? I'm just gonna just like naively assume that the power plant was constructed with this eventuality in mind. Yeah. I'm happy that you think so. What? Well, the one thing I'll say is one of my favorite things to do when I uh was taking some courses at the Hospital Eastlands. Oh, can I grab one of those too? I'll be eating one at the same time, Barton. You've got to wait. Oh man. Uh was Yeah, you have to talk now. At the Hospital Eastlands, they used to have uh architecture courses, and you could look. I like to look through university bookstores, and they had this uh the architecture uh course was uh concrete, building with concrete one, building with concrete two. You can see where this is going because there's four of them, and there's all building with concrete, because that's it's all reinforced concrete. So you're at least moderately safe in most of the buildings here for uh earthquakes, if not for aesthetics. Yeah. Did did did living in Seattle fucking terrify you like it terrified me? That's we both a long time to get over that. We both lived in Seattle. Uh which is overdue for something called the Big Rip, which is when the Cascadia subduction zone ruptures or whatever, and there's and the New Yorker magazine had an amazing article about what would happen. There was a whole book about it. I read it called The Big Rip. Oh, okay. And um Yeah, and like downtown Seattle, like it's really hilly like San Francisco, but the hills are just full of mud, right? So when it slides and all those buildings are just brick and wood, you fucking liquefy. Yeah. Like it'll just like flatten out. I I lived in like a like a fucking brick giant like on the ground floor of a big brick building on fucking Republican Street. And I was just like I've got so many swears. I'm sleeping in my own tomb. Um yeah. So many what? So many swears. You do so many swears. Yeah, I don't even notice anymore. I'm sorry. No, no, no, it's all right. No, people come complain about this in the comments. What? People sometimes complain about the swearing in the comments. They do? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That just makes you want to swear more, right? Yeah, I I don't know. I I guess I gravitate towards, you know, good PR, but I feel like I've seen in the comments that people are like, no, swear all you want. Good. Oh no, they you you will that's that's follow-ups to the people complaining about swearing. Well, I just have been doing it because my I've been correcting my kids all day, and and you're you're you're uh you're so young you could be my child. I can uh that's just okay. But uh Yeah. What do you do with that? Just do the math, no. I I I like try so hard not to swear around my kid that I come here and I let it all out. We eat candy and we swear. Yeah. I'm here to eat candy and swear I'm all out of candy. Yeah. But the uh yeah, so the I was gonna say that the Seattle earthquakes, because of the way that and I was amused because we're talking about the um grave gravesites at Thingvetler, because we have a slight different situation. Oh, you guys are eating candy. Well, I'm talking it it uh the tectonic plates spread apart here, right? So the earthquakes are kind of more mild. Yeah. We're talking on a completely different buildup. Whereas in Seattle they come together and you get these massive, massive. Every three every three hundred years or so, give or take 150 years, which means that it could happen tomorrow and it could happen in 150 years. So as we were talking about the the graveside, though, I couldn't help thinking about Game of Thrones and all the filming, all the filming they did in Thingvitler, and like so if you're thinking about where they buried the poet, uh it's where um This is where the ice walkers took a shit or whatever happens in that show. Isn't it all just like people raping and shitting? It it is. I think that's there was a character there was a Scottish actor who played the dog, yeah, and he gets into a big fight on like in the most sacred part of Iceland on Thingmittler, and they're filming this fight, and I was like, oh, that's that's awkward that they're it's kind of appropriate. That's also where allegedly people would fight each other in single combat. Yeah. Sacred combat. Very drunk, probably. Sacred combat. Very drunk. Um So uh in Iceland, speaking of Game of Thrones, in Iceland your name can now be the Icelandic word for snow. Oh, John Snow, very much. John Snow, yeah. Winter's coming, all that. Uh is it because of Game of Thrones that they caved? They're such spineless fucking shits, man. Well, wait a way to get on top of that swearing. There is a big thing. Sorry, I have like a sp I should have saved all my curses for Mananabnant because they are like they they are at the bottom of my shit list. But you have like naming committee. Just don't hate the players, hate the game. You also have to exclusive. You can hate the players and the game. Yeah, I know. So uh so uh the Athlete naming com naming committee is just boo doing its job by law. Somebody has to do it. But anyway. So every every so often they could just refuse to do it. Wait, do you get paid? Yeah, sure. Of course. Cinder, you can be in that committee. Uh so every noise almost rolled out of your head. So every so often they have to I don't know why you think I need to be riled up. Like I don't don't I show up riled up enough. Like how much is enough for you people? You're gonna get yeah. So anyway, every so often the committee rules on which names are yay and which names are made. I wish you could be named Yay. Do you know the country you live in and you get to name your kid, you know what I mean? Based on rulings of a committee? Yeah. That can't be that's not true in the majority of countries in the world. No. So in Iceland there is a naming committee. This has to do with Jonas Hulgramson. Iceland introduction of cle of trying to create an ideal language. Yeah. And that included in that is an ideal set of names. Yes. Um to name your kid. Well Isn't it like I'm sorry, we've talked about this before on the show, maybe even in context with the naming committee, but isn't this like a very mild form of fascism? Isn't this essentially like the personalities of a select group of people governing you know, fundamental aspects of how you live your life? Um Well, you could also just call it naming socialism or something, you know? Could you? Yeah, sure. If you want to. Well, how is it socialism? If you're if you're dropping phrases around, I don't know. No, I'm not dropping phrases. I'm doing the opposite of dropping phrases. I'm saying, like, can you know maybe I feel like it's hard because the most fascist person that comes to mind immediately is Elon Musk, who named his children X1 or whatever. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and you know, I think I honestly think you should be able to do that. Like, I honestly I feel like this is a an environment we're living in an environment where uh uh a people like a person like Elon Musk would never had become Elon Musk in Iceland. He could not name his kids this way. It would have crushed him at some point before he became what whatever he is right now, I hope. Yeah. Would Elon Musk have become Elon Musk? I mean, he's just walking fetal alcohol syndrome, right? And so he would just be drunk. Like as long as his parents like fetal alcohol syndrome has done some amazing things. I don't think we need to drag drag its name with Elon Musk. Like that's just no man. But uh so I just wanted to say like naming kids Mikhail. You could say this, you can say anything America. Like they're we're way worse podcasters than us could in there. So they refused people to be spelled uh to be named Mikhail with an H in it. Oh that's too bad. Oh, that's not racist at all. And Danny Van with two A's in it, but uh they approved Snow, Molly, and Sivier. Which is a peculiar peculiar name. Yeah, I've sort of given up with the logic with these people. The fact I mean, I guess nobody wanted to name their kid Snor until now, but this is just like a word, and there's lots of names in Icelandic which are just like a word for a thing, right? Yeah. Like Vegar. What is Vegar? I don't know. Like Vegar is like compliment. No, it's like a food for a party. Yeah. We have this issue a lot when when we're talking about our our kids have Icelandic names and and people will say, like, well, what does that mean? I was like, well, it's also just a name. Like it doesn't matter what it means, right? Yeah. But they all mean something almost. Yeah. In Icelandic. Yeah, yeah. It's kind of like with uh Native Americans naming things. No, I I believe names of them. Probably they all have like a Yeah, some of them are you know, because it's all it's it's like, you know, it's they're preserved names from a time before, you know. Yeah. So yeah, it has like a distinct meaning. Which is kind of fun actually. I mean Pyrtur, your son's name, means like illuminated or something. I have no problem with Icelandic names. See, that's the difference between me and the naming committee, is I'm not telling them what to name their kids. Like it's fine with me if their name they're you know, if their names are all, you know, Yon or you know Stefan or Snor or fucking Veegar. Yeah. But you know, they're the ones telling me like I can't. Yeah, the Michael thing is actually kind of painful to hear. That's like xenophobia, isn't it? Well, the mikkail is obviously available in a lot of different spellings, but not this particular one. Right. So that it's not I mean it what they are operating on is some sort of like loss or or rules of how the language works. They're operating on like the strongest drugs known to man, you know. Like I mean, that is a drug, but you know but you know that so that's what they're handed in by. You have to have like a precedent, like you know, previous use or something that falls within the Icelandic uh w way of like uh declining a word, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there's four noun cases we use, and you need to be able to can somebody decline my name on air real quick? Does it Barton Bart or Bart Bart? From Parti. I don't know about the Barthi, because that's just like a sideburn, right? Then you're you're in but Bart Bart's uh you know I feel like it's almost like you're referring to Barthi. That the the last case is usually if there's any one of them that changes, it's the last one, right? And I I feel like so it's Sint Fro Sintra? Sintrium Sintra from Sintra til Sintra. They're all they're all the same except the first one. Okay. Yeah. But it's weird because like my name is Sintri, but it's actually more common to see it spelled Sintra or you know, because the way the language works. This is yeah, my son had one they'd done well at a swim meet, and they were calling him to the stand, and he was standing there kind of blinking, confused, because they didn't call him, they called Cecil's Bjartz. Oh, see like buffs, you know, yeah. It was declining instead of using people tried to decline my son's name at first, like Asa, and it it's like and I think eventually they just gave up, and now he's just Asa to everyone. But yeah, like I don't think that's allowed. You could I couldn't have named him that here. Nope. You went to America to do that. Yeah. The land of the free. Hell yeah, baby. Name your kid whatever fucking shit you want. Well, no, we couldn't name our kids the Icelandic names correctly. We couldn't add the accents. Oh, yeah, they don't computers have not. Oh, there's such little ooh, you know, there's just like this worst kind of bureaucratic. I don't know. I don't have the sugar took away all my words. So uh the one of the few payment providers operating in Iceland called Rapids. Ah, my other least favorite people in the world announced, I think it was last week, that they have laid off 40 people and explicitly cited that they had replaced them with AI. Yeah, you they just can't like you know, you can't they can't get more likable, can they? They try so hard. They have been quite unpopular in the past few years. And I'm um like my first question would be like, is this just a ploy to fire everybody because business is poor? They're sort of saying the quiet part out loud, aren't they? Because usually I feel like if you have to fire people because of AI, you kind of you know, you don't really admit to that because everybody wants AI to be this like great thing that that does great things for society. Yeah, because of AI, right? Which is why which is why we're doing this whole episode through AI, the way the AI generated it is. I never actually said that. And so if I write if I write a piece, and this has come up a lot if you if anybody's bored enough, they want to go on LinkedIn and follow some writers. If I write a piece as I've been trained to do, and I'm Midwestern, so I typically use an M- it's called, so for my positives. It turns out, because I actually uh helped write some uh grammar books in my youth. Um turns out my writing is the role model for is the go-to example for AI. So that um for example on our current page I wrote the about us section. It's turning the whole world into Midwesterners. It is, it is. Yeah, yeah. Basically, AI wants AI all to be Minnesotans. Uh it's like the Gary Larson of its time. Well, I'm at least with like the way AI is developing, I'll be developing a Midwestern drinking habit. Yeah. So anyway, I mean on the bright side, it's yeah. So export the good things about it. If you just look at it, you'll get a 70% match that it's AI. And this is this has been reported kind of widely. So um we had this situation where we, you know, we lost our staff writers. We're more freelance now. And somebody looked at something I wrote and said, Well, looks, you're using AI for your for your writing. I was like, no, no, it turns out if you write as trained by a Midwesterner, you'll get a 70% match. Yeah. No, no, you're not. I was avoiding the M-dash before it was cool because I saw I saw this meme ridiculing it and how there's like all these other awesome symbols like you know, semicolons and commas and full stops that just aren't getting used enough, especially in emails. It's very important to use your colon a lot. That thing uses itself. Yeah. But 15 years ago, they were actually mocking. I've avoided those because of the and the ellipses, yeah. They those used to be well I I wasn't trained to never use the ellipses, but the my other training, my Midwestern training, has been loathed by where I lived next, New York. Uh the mid the Midwest writing has been mocked by New Yorkers for as long as I've been alive. So um now they can mock AI writing too, I guess. Yeah, well, I guess we will start like we will have to like in the near future we'll just simply have to make more mistakes to look more human. Take the intelligence out. So you can say it's it might be artificial, but it's not intelligent. I don't know. I mean I I I don't worry too much about it because it's like I just I feel like I feel like the we've discussed this before. Uh you know, which is like if if this is an AI generated episode, then of course we're only talking about things we've talked about before. But like to me it just like it defeats the purpose of writing to to use the AI. Like you're you know, you if you you have to want the work more than the reward. Well, I think also with these things that um I think uh when people I'm too egotistical to use AI. Like I want to be able to like even for me. This is my if you're like This is my JISM and no machine can create this for me. We're conquering this wearing the bigger one. I think like I haven't said these things a million times before. Like So in in like in purpose. Sorry, I'll try to turn it down. In purchasing a magazine, the it's my take on these things. It's the it's the there are tasks that go into like uh making this magazine that require kind of like just time. It's like digging uh it's like shoveling a hole. Grunt work which by now you can actually do the brunt like the most of the volume of the grunt work uh with artificial intelligence because it does not require intelligence. Are you gonna eat that? No. No it doesn't require any intelligence. You're just like you're just fending information and you're listing it up. There's no interview involved, there's no actual writing enrolled, it's just collecting information. This is what computers are good for. This is great. Yeah, at the moment, before AI before they discover it costs too much to run the AI servers, and they're just gonna have to charge what's actually. This brings me to the other big problem with AI is that people lump a lot of different things into one term. Like this would not be AI under you know the definition of like using AI to make a whole book. Yeah, so what I'm just generally saying is that you can you can use AI for these tasks because they don't require any intelligence whatsoever. They're just grunt work. They're just grunt work. Isn't that basically like programming? I mean another one of my big beefs with AI is just the lack of terminology. It's like a it's a buzzword. It's exactly that. You just have it identify things based on the criteria you give it to him. It's just shit. And then they compile that shit. Yeah. It's or they compare whatever. So that is he said shit too. Yeah. Yeah. So that's not that is that is absolutely like when people say uh being replaced by AI, if you're being if if this was your job, it was just you're just being replaced by an excavator instead of like using a shovel. Yeah, in that case it's just a tool. It should help you with your job. So like you know, uh the other thing that I don't think there's any chance in hell. It's just programming. But AI is gonna like and you you said it exactly. Like AI, it's like the internet, it only has a rear view mirror, right? Right, yeah. Sometimes sometimes it hallucinates though in delightful ways. So yeah, but the the like did you see that a set of knives, one this is not yet? This is like this is actually a thing that's kind of not happening as much because like Chat E B 3.5 was delightful because it would like if you would prompt it sort of in a way that you would ask a delete question, it would just hallucinate to answer what you wanted. Like how how do I take the train to Issafir? And it would nice they would explain to you how you would take the train to Issafir even though there's never been a train system in Iceland. This was fun. I love that. Yeah. But I mean it doesn't like there is the other things like it it will not and it cannot the way I understand how this works, replace doing actual writing or actual journalism. Right. So this was all a discussion about AI, but we're we're we started with the news story that rapid laid off people due to AI. But as we know in general from the from people laying off due to AI, this is there's been a few waves of it in America. Typically it's not that. They're just using it as a distraction, kind of a bait and switch. They use they know if you say I AI, you'll focus on the AI without looking at the details. Typically, for tech companies, uh they lay off salaried employees, say it's due to AI, and then you might see a different strategy for bringing on employees and uh and yeah, and they'll all be independent contractors that they won't have to pay as much. Yeah, you know, at the end of the day, it's just capitalism. But uh Yeah, yeah. That's the other the uh one of the million other million problems with AI is it's often just masking, you know, the the awful I'm trying not to say curse words here. Right. It's uh it's masking, you know, the horrible after effects of, you know, the awful bodily toxin that is capitalism. That, you know, that it's like a viral infection, isn't it? And they they try to cover it with all these other words, but it doesn't really, you know, it doesn't address the the core problem. Well you say capitalism is they are using AI, uh like you said, it's it's it draws people's attention away from the core problem. From the core problem. But I don't know if it's the recession. You know, the recession coming. But I don't know if it's entirely capitalism so much as this hyper um hyper-stripping of resources for the to the very few, which is like the post-capitalism. It feels like post-capitalism because these few um with with the kind of Clinton signing on this uh internet freedom uh strategy where things like YouTube are free from any restrictions on um on rights and uh you know it's what neoliberal policy inevitably leads to. Well yeah, once they once they tangled with what was coming with the internet, um and you end up with these few uh the PayPal mafia moving on and and generating yeah your alphabet and your uh what's the Facebook term? Is Facebook alphabet? No, Facebook Alpha. No, it's meta. Meta, yeah, uh etcetera. Um to to get all the resources to just these few, you mean you you have to strip everything from media, you have to strip everything from any other business. Yeah, and insert yourself as this middleman where none was needed. Yeah. Well, I mean, it I it like I don't think. It's like cottage industry taking over the industry in a way. I don't think I don't think I would actually argue that it's not the neo-capitalism. That's just capitalism. We just had like a a vacation from the worst aspects of it between like the first end of the First World War and into the early noughties, like the recession. Well I would think it's like if you think about the Gilded Age, it's exactly what you're describing. So somehow I am I am the most moderate like a system a system that has already funneled all you know, the bulk of the wealth into very few hands, but is kept perpetuating because of the people. That's how it's got what got the people in power into power. Well we have, especially after 1945, is like a deliberate moderation of that system by policymakers. Yeah through taxation and through all sorts of other policies that were supposed to even the playing field, which gave us and I'm sorry that I'm just spelting this out now, which gave us like a few decades of a strong middle class in the Western world. You might be especially fond of it because that's when Icel Iceland blossomed, right? Oh yeah, that's when the United States blossomed. Also, you know, people I think it's been a long established fact that like, you know, the world was rebuilt largely with socialism and then even the Western world after. And then ever since the 80s, this has been instead of There's more socialism in the West than there ever was in the Soviet Union. And this decline has then increased or decreased, however you want to phrase it, exponentially kind of since 2008, since the recession. Where you have like the disparity of who owns and who doesn't own anything increasing by like leaps and bounds over the past decade or so. Yeah. So I think it's yeah. Wait, how did we end up here? Sorry. Let's see. People are here for the sheep. People are here for the sheep, man. Yeah, we're like, the fire and the ice and the puffins. Uh we got the puffins in a box right over there. We better let them out. Do we stay in the news story now that somebody named the sheep? Oh, we should okay. We have a game now in the Ricky Agrippine, which is basically that there's a picture of a sheep. Which has a name because we ask uh Bart. Is it Snior? Bart asked like sheep farmers to to you know send us pictures of their sheep along with the name of the sheep. Listen to this concept though, this is stunning. Yeah, all right. And and and the game that we're running is uh, you know, we're asking for the actual name of the sheep, but because that is basically statistically almost impossible to guess uh because the sheep could be named anything unlike Iceland. I feel like sheep only have like th eight different names. Unlike Icelandic Snjulver Blumpy Lumpy Mordusa. Okay, whatever those. No. Uh so anyway, what I was gonna say, unlike Icelandic people, sheep can be named anything you like, right? There's 400,000 sheep in Iceland though, right? Yeah, something like that. And you can name them whatever you like. It's not like you know, people who can't be named Michael. Oh yeah, when I drive past sheep, I'm just naming them whatever I want. So obviously, so as a caveat, you can also just guess what you can make up your own name for the sheep. What you think the name should be. Yeah. But after I thought that would be the only takeaway is that, oh, look at this sheep, guess the name. But uh instead of that, somebody actually emailed us and said something to the effect. Don't say it, don't say the name. Do we don't say the name. Yeah. That is instead of saying like I think this sheep's name is so-and-so, she they said they or he or she just said, Oh, that is the name of the sheep. She said the name of the sheep. And of email. They recognized the the image, the sheep, and said the name. Exactly right. Which we were not planning, we were not planning on that. And it was in seven less than seven days before we got the correct answer. Yeah, I'm assuming like a farmer, like an Iceland. Yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They know the names of the city. Yeah, I guess if you have like a interest. I'm impressed. That is what you think. I grew up with these people. I think their language. This is how language works here. That there's 400,000 people. And probably probably a hundred people will know the name of them. One sheep, you know, like Yeah. Yeah. This is incredible to me. Sorry. I just couldn't believe when it got the right name. And we got a lot of fun. It was really fun to read the the the guesses and the guess. Was the email sent by the sheep itself, maybe? No, but the email address for this game is sheep at Grapevine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Type English. You know, your sheep is very popular. And they're like, Yes, of course. Like, like, not the slightest amount of- of course, this is a popular sheep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So um, everybody knows the sheep, and I was like, what? Yeah. You know, you're living the dream life where you get to send people an email that starts with like your sheep is very popular. People live their whole lives without getting to send emails like that. Also, is this a game that an AI would come up with? No. The game? No. Would it ruin the game? Yes. I mean, I don't think there's intelligence behind this idea. I don't know. I I was just there is no there isn't I no, but there's originality, that's the problem. You know, what I like to do is name animals. So I just I generally thought the fun part of this would be people coming up with names. I didn't think anybody could possibly name like a pet store. The actual name. Yeah. Yeah. Uh I like to fish. I like suffering. I like to this is also another favorite game of Icelanders which has kinda disappeared in the past decades because it's yeah. But that's to give nicknames to people. Yeah, let's not get into that. That's sort of disappeared from the whole world, hasn't it? I feel like names have become such a touchy subject to people now. And have you uh did you ever got see do you remember this guy like you know the the the the whole like do they call me the fans builder? No. Have you heard this joke? I know where this is going. Call it Space Cowboy. No, the answer is like you fuck one goat. You have a long distinguished career, and then you fuck one goat. And what do they call you? The goat fucker. Yeah, I that's how nicknames work used to work here. Uh but now the goat population is in decline and almost extinct. It's like how are they gonna appropriate? Yeah, in a sense, that's the problem. Um I was gonna talk about it. If we named more of our goats goat fucker, I think it would empower them to make more goats. I feel like all goats should just be called goat fucker from now on. This reminds me of my reaction when we got the correct name for the sheep, which I said, like, well, it lasted seven days, but if we'd taken the picture from behind, it would have lasted three. Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I was warning people please please don't swear that I I'm sorry. I thought the swearing is those kinds of people, they love these jokes, Bart. You know, I don't think you can't. Yeah. I feel like we've been trying to figure out a way to appeal to the country audience more. Try to drum up some numbers in the months booth. I'm gonna end this on uh the ongoing cancellations of flights, which we did talk about in the last show. I think there's been cancelling flights a lot. You can have like a little bestiality segment 45 minutes into every episode. And it has to do with that's our shorts. Like we'll have a bestiality segment. I mean, Iceland Round is a varied show with different segments. Nothing's off the table here. Oh I put on a suit for this. You look great, but uh nothing's off the table, including things that are usually on your table. Yeah. Anyway. Um so about the Iceland Air flights that have been cancelled. We already lost an airline last year. Which is play, and but I get my coffee cups at all swim meets. They're all play. It's great. That's good. Yeah, and you could actually get some of their uh estates uh branded stuff on read on cheap on the cheap here last fall. Yeah. So I think a bunch of people dipped up. All the nonprofits are using their stuff. I don't know about the pizza ovens, because they had three pizza ovens, which is strange for a airline. Oh, they were they're very clever. They managed to get their their brand name and the logo onto like, you know, my DVD player and all kinds of apps on my computer. I have I want to get one of those and keep them in my garage and just pizza ovens. Even the top 10 Madonna single. What sorry, I was zoning out. Yeah, no, it's not it's the joke isn't even worth listening to. So uh as we told you last week, this is like the worst joke. This is like uh has to do with a sorry I was watching Madonna dancing YouTube last night. For some reason, I went on social media and it was like Lysis Madonna doing 10 power squats in the middle of a song. And and turning some people are finding that very impressive? Yeah, yeah. Well I I don't know when in my life I would have found that impressive in the past, but last night I was like, wait, she did that. People love that. She's almost 70, isn't she? Yeah, she does lots of power squats while she sings. Yeah, she's is she born 1958 or nine or something? Yeah, she's probably close to 70. Yeah. Retirement age. Wait, why do you know Madonna's birth birth year? Uh I think me and a few other people were briefly fascinated with the fact that she's the exact same age as Kate Bush. And and then I just I remember her the year she was born. 1958, good year. Yeah. Uh is it the day the music died? That year? Oh, good question. Who who cares? Yeah. Sorry, but who was the the big bopper? Like I've excuse my ignorance, but like I like the big bopper because he did White Lightning. He has the original recording of White Lightning, which later goes on to be the George Jones song. Uh he he was uh like a Texas DJ, right? Who kind of Oh, he was a DJ. He wasn't even a music. Who didn't know? Well, he did song. He did Chantilly Lace, he did these songs where it's kind of like um kind of almost proto-rap, like he's just kind of mumbling over the song slowly, and then he gets to the that's oh maybe that's what I like. He gets to his his chorus. What is he? He's like the he's the Suggy of I don't even know who that is. Is there a song about him dying? And then there's always but uh the day the music died, who else? You're Sovain is about Shuggy. I love the fact that Mick Jacker is singing the chorus on that. Once you've heard it, you can't unhear it. What in Your Sovain? Yeah. He's doing backing. Once you hear it, you will never unhear it. And I think the song is probably about him. I'm like No, it's yes. I feel like I feel like I yeah, I would never recognize his voice outside of a Rolling Stones song. I would just assume that's someone doing like a McJagger. Oh no, yeah. It's it's not like uh, you know, uh totally clips of the heart where it actually sounds like Meatlov, but isn't it like poor man's Canadian version of a Meatloaf, or is Meatloaf maybe Canadian? I can't remember. Uh I think he's from your neck of the woods, isn't he? I don't know. I don't think so. You didn't know? I don't think he's from any place that specifically. We never get our facts right on this show. Meatloaf's dead. Okay. But I mean he he will always be from where anyway. Fledge is still getting cancelled by Aslair because of a labor dispute. I think we should call it quiz today. Uh right? Without knowing where Meatloaf was born? Yeah. Dallas, Texas. All right. He's from the same city as my wife. Uh thank you for the first time. Yeah, we're trying to figure out what's going on with Islander, but uh yeah. Did you already talk about how we should we should stop now? Yeah, we we kind of discussed it last week. We can pick it up next week. We always talk about Iceland. It's an ongoing thing. We'll be talking about it sooner again. But uh thank you guys for watching. We have forgot about the camera. We've been uh this is how you make a good show. You forget the cameras there. We we have been on our Iceland round up. Bye-bye. Bye. Bye-bye.