Animals & Us - Voices of a New Paradigm
Animals & Us - Voices of a New Paradigm
Episode 43: Your Cat Isn’t Ignoring You, She’s Negotiating Terms - With Abhigna Vaidya (Transcript Available)
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What if your companion didn’t just arrive by chance, but by choice? We sit down with Abhigna Vaidya—a business analyst whose lifelong curiosity about astronomy, birding, and kriya yoga opened into animal communication—to explore a world where animals, plants, and even places speak with purpose. Abhigna shares the pivotal night a Himalayan mountain dog appeared on a dark trail and led him home, and how that wonder grew into a practice grounded in attention, humility, and surprising validation. We dive deep into soul contracts—the unseen agreements through which animals offer care, receive healing, or even carry our burdens. With clarity and compassion, Abhigna explains why some animals go “lost” versus “missing,” how cats often wait for calmer energy before returning, and why a dog might choose a new home if his or her needs aren’t being met. The stories are specific and human: open a balcony door at 2 a.m., adjust a sleeping spot, resolve household tension, and watch how the relationship shifts. Telepathy here isn’t magic; it’s a mindful way of noticing, asking, and acting. We explore the science of plant communication and forest intelligence—plants signalling wasps for defence, mother trees feeding and instructing saplings through mycorrhizal networks. That lens widens further to land and Vastu Shastra, the elemental design system aligning earth, water, fire, air, and space. Abhigna shows how a home’s layout, a site’s history, and the land’s “wish” can nudge projects toward friction or flow—like a former Ayurvedic field that flourished only when repurposed for healing, not commerce. This is a warm, practical, and provocative journey for animal lovers, nature nerds, and curious sceptics alike. You’ll come away with a new respect for consent, calm, and coexisting, plus simple steps to listen better—whether you’re calling sparrows to the balcony, welcoming a nervous rescue, or sensing what your home truly needs. If this conversation opened something in you, follow, share with a friend who loves animals, and leave a review to help more listeners find us. What did you rethink about your bond with animals or place today?
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SPEAKER_02My name is Ivantica, and I'm a researcher exploring animal consciousness, environmental sustainability, and planetary health. I want to help bring animal perspectives to the table and transform our relationship with the natural world.
SPEAKER_00And I'm Barbara. I'm an animal communicator and retired veterinarian. My true passion is exploring the hearts and souls of animals and helping people come to a much deeper understanding of who the animals truly are at their core.
SPEAKER_02This podcast is for anyone who loves animals and nature and has an interest in their own personal and spiritual development. We'll bring you powerful conversations with fascinating people about animal and nature sentience, consciousness, and communication.
SPEAKER_00Thank you so much for joining us on this journey of love, respect, understanding, and care for the fellow beings who share our beautiful Mother Earth with us.
SPEAKER_03Hello and welcome to a new episode of Animals and Us, Voices of a New Paradigm. Today I'm really excited to introduce you all to my new friend, Abhigna Vedia, who is a business analyst and on the side, he has his passions of Vedic astrology, animal communication, and many other things, which we're going to hear about today. Abhi, welcome to the podcast.
SPEAKER_01Thank you so much. Nice to meet you all.
SPEAKER_03So tell us how you started and how your your life journey brought you into the world of animal communication.
From Astronomy To Astrology
SPEAKER_01Well, so animal communication, I would say it is the blessings of Mother Nature. It just happened to me because going by my background, I'm um I've done my graduation in engineering, in electronics and telecommunication, then I've done postgraduation in marketing, uh MBA in marketing. And uh then I've been living the life of a corporate uh you know person. But um my interest has always been in the field of occult and uh something which we cannot perceive through our my senses. So since college days, my interest would predominantly lie in learning about stars. Astronomy was one of my interests, and birding was one of my interests which I would spend a lot of time going in. And um when I want to speak about astronomy, uh in in India, before even the Greeks uh started with this concept of uh astronomy, there were a lot of other Sanskrit texts which was available known as Sulyasatas and others, through which you would learn about the planets in its own pure astronomical way, and then there were derivations of it in terms of how it impacts individuals, maybe a plant, soil, land, or humans, and uh that gave me more interest in towards learning the other side of it, which is astrology. Um birding, I would always get fascinated with my birds, I would spend a lot of time in going to the forest, um, understanding different birds and sounds and whatnot, and uh that made me intrigue more in birding. Um spiritual practices was something which has been always a kind of say a common denominator, and then the breathing practices, Kya yoga, and other things, which would drive me, and in the processes there were many experiences which would happen where I would not be able to fathom it logically, like feeling something, sensing something, uh having the thought of a friend, a friend calling, which all of us in fact have these kind of experiences, but something very specific, which a com like another meditator is thinking, uh friend meditator is thinking, and uh I also get the same thought. For example, a friend of mine was planning to I just had a dream of a friend of mine going to North in India, and I'm feeling like hey, you can wait for some time before you go because there will be some issues which I feel which will happen, and um apparently avalanche happened, and she in fact had said that uh she also had a dream where she saw me coming and saying that if you can't go, that will be great. Now, logically, this thing will not fit to understand because we just get like our rose raised of how this happened to us, but uh many such experiences kept happening, and um in the journey I visited a lot of mountains and places for my own spiritual purposes, but a couple of experiences which I ran through uh where I thought that nature is talking to me in and out. So uh that's tell us about that.
SPEAKER_03You have a story about you and the dog in the forest. Tell us about that. Absolutely.
Himalayan Dog Guidance Story
SPEAKER_01So uh anyway, Himalayan has has been kind of you know recalled for its own glory and its spiritual purpose and energies, a very high vibration energies. And maybe for those who are listening who don't know about Indian geography, tell us generally where it is and what what the place is like one of the largest uh mountain range in uh northern part of India, and uh it is said to be lived by so many mystics and yogis who've been practicing meditative practices there since long. And it is not just that, it is very rich in its herbs and the medicinal aspect as well. So a place itself is very fertile, it has a huge amount of uh you know productivity uh in fertility in terms of giving more foods, giving more life in its place. And um they say that the mountain dogs over there do come out to you and help you if they want, in the Indian Mahabharata, which is one of the parts of Indian history, uh a dog accompanied five Pandavas, the five brothers, all the way to heaven. Uh it was somewhere in Sathupant and Himalayas. Now I was totally unaware of it, and I used to think, okay, it was that time when these things would happen. Now we are in Kali Yugar, we are in that era where we can't have that much Yogivain energy felt in a way.
SPEAKER_03And and wait, maybe I'll just pause you there for a second. So, again, for anyone who is not aware of the Mahabharata, it's part of the Hindu legends, Hindu myth. An epic in a certain period of time which happened thousands of years ago.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, about well, 3,000, 5,000 years ago.
SPEAKER_03Three to five thousand years ago, and there's stories in there about the significance of the dog and how the dog accompanied these five brothers into the gateways of heaven.
SPEAKER_00Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03And you're thinking that this is a thing of the past, this is a myth, a legend, a story.
SPEAKER_01True.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_01And then as I start, and so what happened was uh I used to stay in this one Airbnb and uh would put myself over there most of the time. And one fine day I was going, and it it is kind of a remote place where you don't get a vehicle which drives you over there, so you just have to walk past down to the uneven mountains, and um over there there's just a cliff, and just beyond before that, you will have this Airbnb where I would spend about a week's time and uh would just meditate and do nothing, just be with the nature, that's it. Now, in the process, it so happened that I'd gone for a stargazing one night just by myself, and uh it was about apparently a meteor shower which was supposed to take place, which had intrigued me. So I spent there a time uh you know quite late, like 9:30, 10, which is too late for uh mountain. And um I got scared because I forgot the way path coming back. My battery was dying, um, there was hardly any network, so I couldn't reach out to anyone over there. Um I could see those small lights which are like a small village huts, which are dispersed at 100-200 meters, and I'm like, and now I'm going to be bitten by a snake or attacked by a leopard or whatnot. Um so at that point of time it's called out to Mother Nature. Uh we call it Pratariti Devita in Hindu uh this thing or in Sanskrit basically, and uh called out to say that hey, send me someone to help. I'm lost. And I was this I'm right now I'm sounding very casual at the time. I was shit scared, so like sending so um suddenly a mountain dog appeared, and first I thought it is fox because it was a heavy big one, but uh then he was kind of you know he did not bark bark per se, but he kind of once just uh coming close and then going down. So I'm like maybe he will take me somewhere. This is how I followed the guards, and almost about 30-40 meters down, he took me to the same place where I used to meditate. It is a small tank on that ground where I would sit and meditate. So he took me the same place. I sent a picture of it, and then I was like, what was that? Followed by it, I do a lot of uh tree activities in the area where I stay, and uh there are trees which called me out, uh, one specific tree which was getting chopped, and I was in some other lanes, and I did not even know back then that this tree is getting chopped, so I just took my two-heeler, went over there, and uh saw that that somebody is actually chopping it with valid permission, without valid permission, sorry, and that's how I realized uh there is a communication which is happening. Typically, we feed sparrows in our weed area, and sparrows' population in India is diminishing, especially in the urban part of it. And I'm like, how can I call them? And I used to just call them out in abundance, like you know, in throwing out some intent in nature that hey, please come, I'm keeping food for you. Uh, why don't you come in? And uh after a few days they will start coming in, and I'm like, this is magic. Uh, one friend, their friend told me that something of this telepathic in the specious communication takes place, and there are workshops you can attend. I'm like, let me try it. So then I picked up and then I used to try in my close circle uh with plants, with with lands, with whatnot, and uh it used to get validated by humans. And I'm like, this is good that we are getting some validation, but some of it used to happen prior to that. So that's how the journey started, and then there is no looking back. Um, I keep meeting so many interesting people, interesting species who connect with people rather and gives a lot about their life in terms of making us question the whole intuitive world of ours, which we generally overlook.
SPEAKER_03Wow, and how long ago was this that you that your friend told you that you know there are workshops out there about this?
Calling Sparrows And Early Telepathy
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so friend told me this about in 2021. But uh this mountain dog experience happened in just 2019. So yeah.
SPEAKER_03Okay. Amazing. Well, thanks to that friend and these experiences you've had. You know, one of the things, so Abigna and I attended the same workshop together. That's where we met just a couple of weeks ago. It was an advanced animal telepathic advanced telepathic animal communication workshop. Um so one of the things that I was really excited by when I first met everybody, the whole group, there were about there were 27 of us, was that there were five men in the group. And typically in the places I've been where I've learned and workshops I've attended, seminars I've attended, the women easily outnumber the men. Uh and this happens every time. There's a certain demographic, there's a certain yeah, age group, gender, you know, all of that. So I even made a note of it because I'm here researching, so I'm noticing things. So I made note of it that there are five men in this group, and I was really curious to know more about your stories because I'm really curious what that experience has been like for you. I would like to think that there isn't much of a difference between what women experience and what men experience, but somehow there are less men in this space. So do you feel that kind of outnumbering?
SPEAKER_01Well, so you made me realize that that's what this makes my oh wow, I did not think it that way. And uh see, I always feel the feminine is way intuitive, way energy sensitive than male because of the structure, hormonal setup, and other way also. I mean, I feel you you're more evolved that way.
SPEAKER_03Um, you're saying you're thanking.
Workshops And Growing The Gift
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, and um maybe with a backstair, right? Where you will just understand that somebody's staring from the back. Uh, especially in India, we feel that women are very uh cognizant of what is happening around. Uh or let's say you and your husband uh meets a couple of bunch of friends, and you would just introduce know that which guy is good or which friend is good and which friend is not. So these ability of knowing things introduce is very much intrinsic to female. It comes from the motherly instinct, I feel. They would be always uh you know know what is happening to their child, even if they are way far. So that thing, uh males are have to work on it to develop it. So um, somehow I feel it's a blessing of mother nature to make me be in the part of this because as I said, I never thought I'd be walking this past. Somehow, when you talk about communicating experiences, it's still the same. There is not an art of difference. Um, in fact, it's a wonderful communication which takes place and which somehow makes us explore a divine feminine that each of all of us are born with. Like we have the Shiva Shakti, uh male and feminine energy human, and it makes me explore and bring that out in a way.
Gender, Intuition, And Balance
SPEAKER_03Lovely. Yeah, I think it's time, you know, in 2025, 2026, and onwards that we really bring the balance of those energies into the world we live in, which has been dominated by the masculine energy, and I'm really hopeful that that's shifting. And that shift, I think, comes from individual people like you and me who are just who are trying to balance those energies within ourselves. So, so tell me, do you find how do you how do you find the experience telling your friends and family members? Do you share this passion of yours with people?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so for a long period of time, in my very close circle, there will be these experiences which they would understand because it would happen about them. Um in when I go and call out in loud, when I started practicing as a side profession, I would say, uh, being of course questioned at how do you do this? And somebody would be like, Okay, it would be a random thing which comes in your mind and you will see. Um and uh till the time they also started experiencing uh it is still a big question mark, and even in my journey so far, I have seen that uh there are those who uh believe in it, and why they believe because it's not just a blind belief, somebody saying they would do it. I don't think so. We are in that era where somebody would believe anything blindfold. Most of them who have come across uh either they've experienced it or they have felt it uh in some point of time in their own life, and then they are able to relate with it. That's why they would go and uh believe. And uh in my communication experiences with humans, I have come across those as well, those are like, oh, I don't believe in it, but I just saw your reel and I'm going to experiment on it, but I'm more happy about it because people are in this generation are now open to experiment and to experience without blindly believing in any straight jacketed plan. So uh I see this as a very good opportunity for everyone to kind of uh raise their consciousness, and somehow nature is playing its role. When I see since last in past in especially in India, in past two decades, uh there's been incas, especially after lockdown, like that's in the past five years itself, there is a huge upsurge of adopting a pet, having a cute plant surround us, where I feel it's a nature who is trying to get the tenderness which is inhuman, which is probably being lost in some point of time, to bring that and start reflecting it on them. We all want that cute part of nature with us, we want to have a cute plant at home, we want to have a pet with home. So we want to bring nature at home, though nature in its larger way is showing us that how we can be part of it rather than they can be part of us. Um, so it's a journey which has started, which is also making everyone else experiencing these things in its own way.
SPEAKER_03So, do you think that like what I'm hearing you say is that nature has maybe been calling us and these experiences that a lot of people have had during COVID or after COVID of bringing animals home or bringing plants and you know, that that's not just our doing.
Pets After Lockdown And Tenderness
SPEAKER_01Absolutely. I I firmly believe in it, and uh of course the need would have arised uh for many of those who are staying away from their family, who are caught, and they feel sudden uh the need of a companion, and that's why they would like quite kind of a pet who can be with me and be a good companion who won't uh disobey me. And um and they may feel it's like you know, like we may feel it's uh nature. I you know, I brought that suspect one, and now I'm nurturing a baby, whereas um it's the other way around when whenever in the communication I've experienced that a pet would come and say that um uh again a controversial uh statement this can be, but uh as many of humans we feel that we are nurturing a dog or we're nurturing a cat, and like we are the pet parent, it's an alternate to pet owner, pet parent seems still more uh you know family-oriented, but however, if we understand their own cycle till next like till first two, three, four years, for example, for dog, you can still tell them a baby, but after that they start maturing, just because physically they don't change, we can't see anything uh on on face which make them feel like elder, so we still consider them, we consider them as our baby, but on the consciousness level, on the role that they play in your life since you're aware, the way they will have a different soul contract, the way they will operate out of their wisdom, take away our diseases, what not they do, uh just apart from just being a companion. Um, I feel that is the most important part uh of that which comes in our life, and uh that's why it's always good to take a part of nature as one rather than considering them as okay, we are the providers and we are giving them something. Um even though we consider them as a kid, but again, child after a point of time wants to be considered equal, and that's the same applicable for the pets.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so let's backtrack a little bit. You talked about soul contracts, you talked about a whole bunch of things. So tell us more about some of these roles that animals play. You said, of course, they can provide us companionship, and that's usually the reason that people bring animals home. But in your experience now, having been doing this for a few years, what other things do the animals do for us that many of us don't even realize?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so uh soul contract is typically the time uh period with which a soul gets attracted or attached to a specific human or a family. And these are like uh as We have a written contract, it doesn't work like that for the animal world or the nature world, but these are some unsaid commitment of there or association of them with you for a certain period of time, uh, which is connected with their this life, past life, or just because it's sent by some angel to bless you. Uh pets and even plants, because for me I see pet plants, indoor pet plants as one entity, even uh trees, but trees still are more community in nature. But um they have a sole contracts of care giving, care receiving, or it could be suffering as well.
SPEAKER_03So walk us through what the different types of contracts are.
SPEAKER_01So, for example, a pet comes in your life, and uh the moment he has come, uh he's not keeping well. You are kind of you know worried about him, you're taking him out for uh to a lot of doctors' wets and trying to get him cured in many ways. Now he has actually come as a sole contract of suffering, that's a sole contract he has by himself.
SPEAKER_03That's a possibility, possible, yeah.
Soul Contracts Explained
SPEAKER_01But from your side, it could be a sole contract of giving, where you are giving them all the right thing, all the medical attention which is required, uh, like that. But the soul contract, if we just see from the animal's perspective, so let's say animal has a soul contract with you as a human for say soul contract of giving, they would just be there and give you boundless love, bounded, boundless devotions, immense pleasure by just getting in your life. So that specific pets who comes in your life and they say that the moment this guy came, my life has become amazing. I've been growing a lot, I was struggling before, now I am at my you know uh seventh heaven. That is when the soul the pet has a soul contract of giving with you. In these kind of soul contract with receiving, there are those pets, especially uh some in again Indian uh aspect, if I say, is where um they are working in some media industry, film industry, and uh they are just being taken out as the pets are just taken out as a show-based pet. Now, which is the flip side of having a pet at home, uh having that mentality of unthoughtless is having a pet at home because it's a fashion to have a pet. Uh, in their case, they get the best of the food, best of the things, and uh minus the love, because and that's what is a part of soul contract of receiving in a way, and so they receive not many things from the humans, and that's what it is. Uh, receiving can also be in other cases where they are receiving something from humans in terms of their pain, in terms of their anxiety, lonelyness, or even suffering in terms of disease. So that could be another soul contract of receiving. Uh, soul contract of receiving and suffering, kind of in my eye, they uh what do we call overlap with each other. But um that's what predominantly they play a role in life. Uh, it could be way beyond just of soul contract that we just talked about. Sometimes they also speak of the lineage as they've been carrying it forward. So uh if I'm speaking to a pet, they would just say that okay, I'm the third in the lineage, and the pet parent or a human would say that I just had one pet before this, and this guy is like, no, no, there is one before that also in your mother's family, mother's lineage, and that's what that's what they will speak about it. And uh sometimes when I ask them for more validations, if it is the case, show us something specific, and this guy would say that yes, uh just check our stomach, like the tameria, and you will see a specific mark which was there in your this which is which I have, which my which the other one also has, and then the one which also had, and it get validated like that. So, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Interesting. Okay, so so the relationships we have with our companion animals are not just random. Absolutely, and there are reasons, and and the reasons vary. There are many different types of these relationships and these commitments, soul contracts that and we decide them together before we come here and before we take physical form.
SPEAKER_01True.
SPEAKER_03Okay, yeah, like that's how it happens. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01And uh the another way to look at the karma part is it's a scientific circumstantial evidence. So uh in many Indian texts, uh Hindu scriptures, you will read where uh the script text is that even without having without having karmic debts, even the dogs don't come close to you. I mean it is uh or not nobody comes in your contact when you don't have a karmic debt. So even the place where you stay uh has a karmic debt, and when your karmic debt with that specific place is over, you will have to move out without or with or without your cognitions.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so basically there's a lot of things that happen in our lives that we think are in our control or that we're making these decisions, but there's a lot more going on, a lot more commitments that have been decided ahead of time that are uh you know factors in how our life unfolds. Yeah, you know, because I think I think in today, today's day and age we have uh we think we control a lot of things. It's an illusion, probably, right? That uh we have a lot of control over the decisions we make, the things we do day in and day out. But um with this kind of philosophy, this type of thinking, you realize that there's a lot more happening without our control.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely. And I feel that from uh any nature around us, we can learn this beautiful art of letgoing. Because uh we hold on to things a lot and the pets or the plans to teach us to just let go of things. We want everything to be in the controlled environment. Whereas uh so I would just like to quote some examples of lost animals for that matter.
SPEAKER_03Perfect. I was gonna ask you because I know you get a lot of uh missing animal cases, and I'm putting that in quotations because people come to you saying that their animals are missing. Absolutely. So then tell us what the possibilities are.
SPEAKER_01In missing animals, it's like this that a pet has come in your life, it's staying with you for some time, and suddenly pet goes out of the picture. Maybe runs away, or maybe you are parked somewhere and just goes out of your vehicle and then doesn't come. Um and um it could be you know you are kept in a very nice compact space, everything was close, still they manage to go out, or there will be a case where they are genuinely lost. So there could be two possibilities. One is they've gone listening, second is they've gone lost. Now, when they've gone lost, there are ways where we can communicate with them, we can ask them why you got lost, what made you know go out of the place which isn't of your known uh ambit.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, like what happened.
Lineage, Karma, And Choice
SPEAKER_01What happened? In that case, we can ask also that what you see around us, can you show us your location? Can you try to come through them? There are techniques with which a communicator will communicate and try to bring a lost animal back. But when it comes to less missing animals, missing is a kind of a very abstract uh word in itself, because sometimes animal will go missing because probably they're not just lacking the area or the house in which they are staying. Uh, they're like this coat as typical cat who did not come back for long. Said that I am not happy because my uh sleeping position has changed. My place in which I stood uh sleep as in, I smell this room very different, and uh also there is a temperature which has changed.
SPEAKER_03This was one of the questions, yes.
SPEAKER_01Okay, and when I speak to that lost cat uh human, they say that uh missing cat human rather. They said that yes, that's true because uh we had having renovation at our home, and uh we he used to be in the upstairs, now we brought it downstairs, and uh we had changed the sleeping position. So because at the end of the day, cats who are supposed to be in open and wild, and they it's like you know, one thing which I would like to call out here is that humans we feel that they should be in our own ambit and they should be able to do what we say in our own defined boundaries, whereas they are like we are free-willing animals, uh, you cannot probably you know uh kind of keep her in that. So they basically teach us to coexist in a beautiful way. Secondly, uh this cat came back. Uh the condition was the human should be at the least anxious state, and uh after a week or so the cat came back. I asked human to just keep the door open of the balcony, which they were referring to, and this cat sneaked in at 2 a.m. in the night when she was in deep sleep.
SPEAKER_03So, um, and what happened with the sleeping position situation?
SPEAKER_01So uh they used to sleep in the room downstairs, and this uh really moved her upstairs, and uh that's where the bed was made different.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
Letting Go And “Missing” Animals
SPEAKER_01So that is what was that uh like that. Okay, and then there are other missing cases where sometimes pets themselves don't feel like staying. Uh reason could be like in a couple of communications, they come and say that you know there are so many so much of loud talks which we're not okay with, or they would say that there are quarrels because of us, and then the human will say that yeah, my father doesn't want it, my mother doesn't want it, also. A very uh fascinating thing happened uh with this one of the pet human in Goa, where uh they they had a pet who went missing, and uh I communicated with the pet, said he's like about 25 kilometers odd away, and I'm like, Do you want to come back? He's like no, and then uh like why? He's like, Because I'm just happy with the person who I am. So I asked that what's the story. Did you go by yourself? Like, yeah, I chose this path, and um he's like, actually, somebody picked me, and I was okay with it. I'm like, why is that? and he said, Because I was in a restaurant and I was just kept as one of those, like, we are two puppies. I was kept to kind of you know make everyone feel cute about and play with us, and there was no role, there was no other attention or warmth to me. So I saw these two guys coming regularly. I saw them kind of you know playing with me, and I thought maybe they will take care of me better. So now I let I sneaked out, I let them take me in, and then I went out. So it feels like a staged uh kidnapping. But if we just ask of intellect, or if you just ask the uh animals will, they are more than happy to be where they are because when they are with you, they are very much with you, 100% with you, but when they feel that they are not getting the enough attention and informed, end of the day, they are also uh alive where they seek a warmth and a lot of uh certainty in a way. They would choose to walk part. Um for humans, it becomes difficult to understand that my pet is not there, he's not missing me. Uh at times I get blocked for that when I say that your pet doesn't miss you because uh it's very difficult to engulf the truth. Unfortunately, that's a communication which comes from them. So, yes. Um then there are those who goes missing, but then we get to know communication that they are no more, uh, which becomes the most difficult thing to convey to a pet parent because they've been going through a lot, especially the trauma of losing your own one, which is gone far, and now when you have to convey that they are no more, it's very difficult. So there's another example which I can give you is that this specific pet uh in New Delhi was uh gone missing, and when I connected, he said that I'm no more, and then um so the human apparently knew they just wanted to check if this news is right. So then, like, can you ask how did he go? He said that he wanted to mate, and uh he saw a female outside. Um, he went on seizing to her, and uh in the process he went to the underconstruction building, which was on and then he went all the way on the third floor, and then he did not know how to come down from there because it was patched up, and um he thought he could sleep out to a next roof, but he apparently fell down and he died, and that was the spot, in fact, where they had found them. So uh pets would tell this information to give us a closure, which we cannot get, and they had then found the CCTA footages and uh a validation also they got because that's what they got.
SPEAKER_03Wow, so you you get like really specific information that is it always like that, or do you have cases where you yeah, absolutely?
SPEAKER_01So there are I always call this out very clearly, even before I take any lost animals case, especially that here the information which you will get will be totally or what your pet provides. We as a human come with a lot of limitations, we are not superhumans. Telepathy is not a superhuman thing at all, it is just a day-to-day communication by paying attention, I feel, and um so in many lost animal cases, pets have shown the location which is not the right location because probably they are in the journey and they have seen one thing and then they are in constant move, and that's why they go to another location. So a human will go to a place, will say that I am seeing the same place which you had said, and it and those informations are very accurate, but at present I don't find my pet here, and the reason could be just this that they moved somewhere else, or maybe they're not in a state of mindness to give us all the right information. So this happens especially in Los Angeles, yes.
SPEAKER_03But they're not ready to come home yet. Does that happen as well?
SPEAKER_01Um, yes. Uh again, um, in terms of cats, it's more like that because they are more like imagine they're from cat family, like tiger is from cat family, and they want to be very much on their own, and they can survive really well. They're very smart, sharp, uh vis-à-vis dog who actually misses their human. So dog.
SPEAKER_03We have a cat at home, and we know she's the smartest of them all, like she'd be just fine on her own.
SPEAKER_01So, this first one which I mentioned about the cat who came back when the environment was right. I used to tell her that your mother is crying and was waiting for yours, and that human mother had stopped having food for about like last three days. I'm like, and she's like, that's why I don't want to go. So much of trauma she is making. Ask her to calm down, and she came back, and uh human mother learned that we are still in good touch, and she's like, Okay, now whenever my cat goes out for its own exploration, a cat can or a cat or a dog can just went can go for exploration by themselves because they've been staying at home, they are bored, they want a new environment, and they're like, Okay, let us explore our own path.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. So tell us about, you know, you have um you've been doing this for a few years, and I'm sure you've learned a lot through your your cases and the different consultations you're doing. Do you ever get anyone, and also you told me a few years ago that you started to talk about this more publicly? You have a YouTube channel. Do you ever get people who just don't believe you, who have things to say? How do you deal with that?
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SPEAKER_01Well, luckily, with God's grace, I'm getting those people who semi-believe in it, and then the experiences make them believe it more. So many calls have happened where they are like, uh, wife is calling and husband is like, I don't believe, but then the pet would show very uh right exact thing, which only intrinsically known to the family, and that would make them believe. But uh, whenever they don't believe, I try to give them the practical examples uh of communications, and forget about this. I would just like to highlight the entire scientific research being done the way you are doing. Um, as you know, Rupert Sheldrack has done a lot of research on the dogs, pet telepathy, how animals know when the human is coming home. Yeah, that's a book which Rupert Sheldrake has made. Uh, there is also a lot of communication network which goes in the trees as well, and these are scientifically proven by researchers, and so even for example, I'll give a wonderful example of how and see we because of human we hear things and we speak, that's why we think these are the two only predominant senses for communication. Whereas since plants and animals don't have that much uh, especially when the plants, for example, doesn't have that uh what do we call it, evolved senses. The way we have they do communication through sense. For example, a tomato plant, when um is not uh you know has been come eaten by caterpillar, they would sense that caterpillar is coming and having them. That time they would basically spray a fragrance which will do multi-purpose thing. One fragrance and it's a multiple fragrance that they do. So one fragrance will be sent in a way which will be asked to kind of you know, which will kind of act as a warning system for other pets, other plants, and uh at the same time, they also generate this plant toxin or a leaf toxin, basically. So whenever wasp comes, uh wasp would not be able to, sorry, whenever a cotton caterpillar comes, they would not be able to have that specific leaf. And uh another fragrance sent to call out wasp to basically feed on caterpillar. So that is their way of communicating, where at one point they are kind of informing their peers that okay, just start having this leave plant toxin, and other way they are calling the wasp to come and go and protect and protect them through from caterpillars. Similar thing, trees there is this mother tree would have all the uh connect would be connected to all the other trees, and they would exactly know that which tree needs what uh nutrients, which tree needs more carbon, which tree needs more sugar, phosphate, and whatnot, and they would supply it from there. Not just that, they would also pass on the wisdom uh that what has her journey been and what are the things to be taken care of, alarming signals when they are about to wade away. So the communication is happening, it's just that we think that communication should happen in the way where we can hear it through some frequencies where uh the plants, animals, nature has much more remote frequencies and the ability to communicate not in our own way, but their own very much own way.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I uh I saw someone explain this one time, and it's easier if you see a diagram, but if you have circles overlapping each other, the smallest circle is the stuff that we know, that you as a Vigna know, me as a Vantika, I know. Then we have a circle of things that we know we don't know. For example, I don't know anything about being a business analyst, I don't know how to how to fly a plane, for example. But the biggest circle of them all is the stuff that we don't know, we don't know.
SPEAKER_01Oh, interesting. True.
SPEAKER_03And that circle is endless, right? It's it's not even a circle. I mean, it's the rest of the space around those circles. And I think for people who don't believe in any of this, I understand where they're coming from because we've been taught to only believe certain types of things. We've been taught, you know, if somebody comes to you tomorrow and says, Hey, you're not feeling well, try this random thing, it works. You're gonna have some criteria for Um, deciding if you can believe that person. So there is definitely value in evidence, there's value in having that kind of reassurance that something works, something doesn't work, what the purpose of something is. But there is so much out there that's happening that I think we're just not even aware of.
SPEAKER_04Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03And to some people that can be overwhelming and scary, I think. A lot of people want to know everything. But I think we're if we just open ourselves up to this awareness that there's a lot going out there that we may never know, we may never understand. Um, I think that that kind of creates some room to explore some of these concepts. And and of course, scientists are doing wonderful things to learn, learn about other species every day, and there's amazing, amazing things happening out in nature. Like you said, they might not have eyes and ears like we do, but they have other senses that we're not even aware of.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And one thing which always realize if we go to indigenous art, where the before the religion came, it was just a nature worshipping. When I say worshipping, it was just respecting nature's element. Yeah, today also in many indigenous tribes we will see that it will just put the hand in the honeycomb, take the honey bee out of it, and the honeys won't bite them just because honey bees know that they are not taking anything extra, they're just talking, taking whatever they wanted. So these things exist very beautifully.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, there was one important thing that we haven't talked about yet. Actually, there's a few things, and we could be here for hours, but let's talk about your communication with land and tell us a little bit about Vastu.
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SPEAKER_01Okay. So see, Vastu is about any space which you uh occupy, uh has certain elements, like have all five elements. We everywhere there are those five elements which are found in some other way. In Vastu, when you are in a certain space, uh there are those elements which are need to be balanced in a way. Uh, how do you balance it by keeping the right thing in the right place? For example, if just to give an example, if you keep a fire in a water element space, for example, northeast or north is a water element, and you put a kitchen over there, you will see that the humans over there who are working, uh let's say especially in kitchen, will have a lot of acid refluxes and basically because of mismatch of water and fire. Or let's say a southwest is earth element, for example. Now, in earth element, if you put water, the entire stability of it goes for you know for a toss. So, let's say in southwest, if you have uh washrooms, it basically flushes out the stability part of it. So that's why it is designed in a way where in the whichever space you stay, you are kind of aligned with the five elements principle, and that is what VAS2 deals with. It is a very sandfec approach of just balancing the energies with the right thing at the right side, uh, right, I mean with the right thing at the right directions. If not, there are remedial measures which are to balance these things and kind of make the sustainability impact in a way.
SPEAKER_03Is this similar to feng shui or so?
SPEAKER_01Feng shui is yes, in a way, because feng shui is a Chinese uh concept. Again, it deals with the elements and the balancing, uh, and same as with Vastu as well. Uh Vastu, I feel, is more uh see Chinese Indian culture have been growing in parallel, so they both have their own aspects. And uh since Sanskrit is supposed to be the ancient most language, I somehow feel that it has more defined uh approach, and that's why we was too. But I I think on the consciousness level, both are working on the same principles. Now, this is Vastu. Now, let's say, and I'll give you with an example. Let's say I am staying in this specific house. Now, in this house, elements are balanced, which means that I am getting going to live a better life compared to when the element was imbalanced. There is nothing magic which is going to take place, but what may happen is still, even after staying in this house, having everything aligned, there will be something which will not be happening as per we wish. Of course, there are planets which play its role, there are periods, sub-periods of planetary uh movement which take place, or there are transit which takes its role, but uh something which even the land has intrinsically. For example, if you are staying in the house which is secondhand, or we are borrowed from someone else, they've been staying there, they've been having their own energies, they've been having their own uh you know uh basically energies which they have been keeping. Or let's say if you're buying a land, now this land may have a certain uh entities before it. Even before you have bought it, you might have bought it for someone else, or because land has always been occupied by some other people, it's like even if it was nowhere, it would be in an empty place with some other known unknown objects over there.
SPEAKER_03Like it's not like a void where nothing happens, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01Something would be there, something would be there. So, in those cases, land telepathy or the house space telepathy becomes very handy. I always tell my um audience that get your pass to correct it. Uh, I generally believe in doing a layout based, a simple in-person visit was to wear, you just balance it without doing much construction based on this, and then see if the things are not improving. You can look for other things. For example, uh, this one specific house, which was not uh so they had a couple of challenges. One was the family was not able to do financially well, they had a lot of other health issues, and uh female used to have uh knee-related issues, all the females in that family. I checked there was too there were certain direction directional faults which I tried to correct them, but still, one thing which was not getting answered was uh why they are not able to save anything. Of course, the stability part was covered, like many yeah, and when I connected to this place, the place at that entire period has this issue, and they said no, whoever comes here doesn't stay here for more than two or three years, and then they have to change the house. Um the human confirmed that yes, uh, there used to be so many families that are about 32-floor building, 32-store building, and only 10 of them are occupied, rest of them are not. So those things were coming from basically the land itself. Uh, sometimes it may happen that the house itself speaks of what it has happened in the uh, for example, there was this a bungalow in somewhere in Maharashtra region, which was uh they were planning to sell it when it was not getting sold. Now, when I asked that what is the wish of that specific land, they said I don't want to be commercialized because uh this place is used more for the healing purposes, and uh traditionally there were herbs which was being grown here, and the humans said that yes, we used to do Ayurvedic uh farming, Ayurvedic herb farming, and then we made made a bangla out of it. So then the place itself asked to use it for some healing purpose, and they started Ayurvedic holistic healing center. The moment that intent was conveyed, it immediately reflected, and uh the pot was started, and the cot did not want to itself or for that matter. So they did not sell it, they started using it for the purpose and they started flourishing.
SPEAKER_03So tell us then is communicating with land or a piece of land or home any different than communicating with an animal?
SPEAKER_01Not really. Okay, uh just that in land there will be more entities involved. Uh for example, a house which has been violent for long. You may not know which inanimate, if I can call it spirits or things would have been there. It's not that I do a spirit communication, but a land would know there are multiple entities here. For example, some and again, most importantly, this is communication. So even solution will be shown by a land, but every time it won't be uh a solution which will make things happen or work.
SPEAKER_03Interesting. Okay, and I know we learned this in our workshop too that it's the same set of skills, you just apply it to communicating with different things, and yeah. Well, wonderful. We've talked about so much, and I'm curious now where you're headed next. Like in, you know, you're still you have one foot in the business analyst world of yours, and one foot kind of pursuing these other passions. So, where do you see yourself?
SPEAKER_01You know, well, I don't uh like this never happened. I I never knew that I will land into this, so I'm always happy in the being surrendered state wherever the destiny wants to take me. But my intent is of course to touch lives as many as possible through this uh thing which has just fallen in my lap. So if Mother Nature is given to me, I would like to touch lives as much as possible and um to heal as many lives, plants, like when when we talk about lives, animals, plants, lands also for that matter, because all of us are in a journey where we need more healers. There's a statement, uh it's on Manjuri's website.
SPEAKER_03Manjari is uh the teacher that we both had for our workshop. Yeah, the quote about the land, the world doesn't need more it needs more healing, it needs more healers, which is so true.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, um, yeah. So that's what I would like to get surrendered and touch as many lives as possible.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Lovely, wonderful. Well, do you have any final words, any thoughts for our audience before we wrap up?
SPEAKER_01Well, I'm so grateful for you because at least you're listening to this and open to about open about this idea and supporting uh for this because she's doing phenomenal work, which we are becoming a part of her journey. Um I'm sure she'll by the end of her career and never wish her care events, but you know, when she's at that maturity stage where she's at that, we we all will be able to relate and say that hey, we've seen her journey, we've seen her growing, and somehow we also became a speck in a like you know, a speck of dust in a cosmos where we can also contribute in her journey. So uh in a way it will help in becoming this planet more conscious and bring upsurging the energy of the planet in its most best beneficial way.
SPEAKER_03Thank you so much. Thank you. And and I always say that this is a team effort, and it's happening because many people are saying yes in their own ways. Uh, in whatever place they're in, whatever roles they're in, they're saying yes to coming together and having these conversations. So thank you so much for being a part of that journey. And uh thanks for thanks for joining us today. And as always, we're gonna end with a brief blessing for the animals.
SPEAKER_00We'd like to end this podcast by taking just a moment to be quiet. And we give thanks and blessings to these amazing animals that we share our lives with. They give us so much and ask for so little in return. We hope that you can keep the animals and all living beings in your heart and in your mind as you go about your day. Thank you so much for being here with us today.