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Book Magic: Writing, Marketing, and Finding Your Voice with Danielle
Danielle, author and visibility strategist, shares her journey of re-releasing her book "Beauty in the Breaking" with a new perspective gained from her own healing journey. Her approach balances heavy topics like trauma, domestic violence, and PTSD with hope, demonstrating how characters can overcome their past.
• Revising a previously published book after personal growth and healing
• Using storytelling to show readers they're not alone in their trauma
• Creating relatable characters who move from trauma to healing
• Finding a marketing framework that works across industries while remaining flexible
• Choosing 1-2 social platforms you genuinely enjoy rather than trying to be everywhere
• Building authentic connections through in-person events as well as online presence
• Honoring your current season of life and giving yourself permission to take breaks
• Remembering that the purpose of a first draft is simply to exist
• Finding joy in the writing process rather than making it feel like a chore
Find Danielle at @RoseAvenueLiterary on Instagram and TikTok, or visit roseavenueliterary.com. Her book "Beauty in the Breaking" will be available through Barnes & Noble, Amazon, and all major booksellers in June 2025.
Beauty in the Breaking releases June 6th:
Some love stories don’t begin in perfect places. Some start in the wreckage.
Natalie Morrison learned the hard way that love comes with conditions. After years of witnessing her father’s alcoholism and violence, she’s built walls she has no intention of letting down—not for her mother, not for her best friend, and certainly not for Cameron O’Connor. But as her past comes back to haunt her, she finds herself reluctantly relying on the one person determined to break through her defenses.
Cameron has spent the last three years running—from his grief, from his guilt, from the night that shattered his world. But meeting Natalie changes everything. For the first time since the accident, he sees a reason to stay. To fight. To hope. And as the barriers between them begin to crumble, he finds himself falling for the girl who refuses to let anyone in.
But love isn’t easy for two people still bleeding from their pasts. And when Cameron’s time in Indiana runs out, Natalie is forced to make a choice—keep her heart protected behind the walls she’s always known, or risk everything for a chance at healing.
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Oh hey, it's Victoria from Victoria Jane Editorial and your host of Bookshop Chats. This podcast is all about authors, writing and the magic that goes into storytelling. We cover all of the things that go into writing a book, from the creative process, from taking your idea to a first draft, creating and cultivating community within the author space, marketing all of the fun things. If you are a reader, a wannabe writer or an author, you will find tips and tricks that suit whatever level you are at. So I hope that you enjoy and you are unfortunately, or fortunately going to find many more books to add to your TBR, so I will invite you to sit back and listen to the episode. Welcome back to Bookshop Chats. In today's episode, I am chatting with Danielle.
Speaker 2:Danielle, welcome to the podcast. Hi, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1:I'm super excited to chat with you because not only are you a author, you also are a visibility and marketing strategist for authors, which I feel like is so helpful, because it's often the I feel like one of the harder parts of being an author is the marketing, I feel like just because it feels like you always have to do it, versus when you're writing a book, you know, you write it and then it's done, um, but but then there is that element of having to show up all the time. So, as we kind of like dive into our chat, first I would love to hear about your book that you have coming out.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So my book beauty in the breaking um, I am releasing it june 6th of this year uh, 2025 it is. It's a hefty book and I say that not because there's a whole lot that goes on in the book per se, but it focuses on a lot of heavy elements. So we focus on trauma and healing and, you know, rediscovering yourself after going through trauma. Those are some major themes in the first three books that I've written.
Speaker 2:This book originally was published nine years ago under a different name, under a pen name, and, like most indie authors, I rushed the process. It was not polished the way that I wanted it to be, so I've taken it off the market. I've been reworking it, I changed the title, I've added 10 chapters to it and I'm re-releasing it this year, kind of as an honor to my growth as an author but also my understanding of how I've healed from my own trauma as well, and so that's kind of the focus of the story. But it's not, it's not heavy in the emotional aspect because it is lighthearted. There is some romance there, there's some, you know, comedic relief in there from the side characters. But, yeah, it does focus on some themes that a lot of people don't write about. So I'm really excited to get that out into the hands of of readers again.
Speaker 1:I love that. That's so cool and I never really thought of of that part of of self-publishing is having that control and the ability to be like I can pull this and I can, you know, redo it, rework it. Because I think it really is true, like you grow so much as an author, the more right um, life experiences, all of the things right. So I think that there's something like, especially if there's something pulling you to do that and really wanting to give that book the, the magic and opportunity to, to get to readers, I think that's something worth exploring and that's I really didn't realize. I'm like, oh duh, of course you could do that.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, I didn't think about that either until it was about summer of last year. Me and my husband were talking about it and I was, like you know, my writing style has changed so much I've healed from a lot of the trauma that I went through. That kind of inspired the story. I've, you know, in therapy, working through all of the things, doing shadow work you know all of the things and coming out on the other side of it with a completely different perspective than I went into it, because the story was written from a place of deep, heavy trauma, you know, and I wanted to reflect what it's like on the other side, because that's what the characters ultimately go through throughout the story, both Cameron and Natalie. They start in one place and by the end of the story they've kind of worked through and they've started healing and releasing things that are no longer serving them and they're overcoming. They're overcoming everything that kind of has held them back, and that's where I'm at now. So I wanted that to be reflective in the story itself.
Speaker 1:Yes, I love.
Speaker 1:I love that I feel like that's so true and that that sort of mirrors my own experience with with my book of just like my main character really struggled with anxiety when I wrote that.
Speaker 1:I was kind of in the depths of that being like a really really like heavy and hard, and you know I'm I'm glad that it's not out yet Like I'm I'm kind of on, like you said, on the other side of it and and have that different perspective, because I wanted that also to be kind of like an important arc of the journey for them is to show that it is possible to heal, and I think that's something that's really important, because it does feel so dark when you're like in that.
Speaker 1:So to to see that there is kind of like hope and, you know, maybe things do get better is always I always love that, and having characters that are relatable, that go through things that you go through, is always a bonus, and I love that that's being so normalized with like self-publishing becoming um, such a big like business now which is really, really cool is to have this, like having this mental health, mental health representation that wasn't previously in books, or if it was, it felt very like disconnected or not really accurate, um, so I think that's great to like touch on these heavy topics.
Speaker 1:That's just life right, like that's really what it is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and I want my stories to be relatable. You know, I want them to be realistic and I think every author wants their stories to be relatable. You know, and, like I said, we do touch on pretty heavy trauma scenes, like a little bit of a spoiler trigger warning here. Natalie has witnessed years of domestic violence between her parents. She witnessed her father attempting to unalive her mom. Cameron was in a horrible accident where his girlfriend died and he blames himself, and so there's a lot of different themes of anxiety and PTSD and nightmares and flashbacks and all of the things, and that's something that, for me personally, I've not really seen that category of mental health in, you know, indie books yet you know and it's not to say that they're not there.
Speaker 2:I just personally have not seen them and I want that to represent. You know that you can overcome. You know, even though you have really heavy and bad things happen to you, you can overcome them and you know, come out on the other side of a better person and having more clarity on your overall life and your relationships and things like that. Not not everybody you meet is is up to hurt you.
Speaker 1:I love that. I feel like that's such an important thing to get into the hands of readers and, just, yeah, help people feel not so alone. And I think that's really what stories do at the core is just to remind us that, hey, I'm not crazy. That's so nice that somebody else is experiencing this too. It's not nice, but it's like, thank goodness I'm not the only one, because you can often feel like that.
Speaker 1:And it can feel very isolating and such, so I love that. That is, yeah, an important theme in in your book. It sounds fascinating.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, thank you, yeah, my my husband.
Speaker 2:he works in mental health. Um he, um. He focuses primarily on mental health and addiction recovery. He focuses primarily on mental health and addiction recovery and one of the things that he teaches all of his clients is your brain will tell you that it's only you, that you're the only one experiencing this, and your brain will try to isolate you. You know when you're going through things like this, and so he teaches you know it's not just you, it's everybody experiences these feelings of like that they're not good enough or oh.
Speaker 1:I can't overcome this because X, y and Z or whatever, and so that's not only does he teach that, but that is also a theme throughout all of my books. I love that. That's such an important reminder and I think it's yeah. So it's hard.
Speaker 1:It's hard to take it and like actually believe it because it can feel very much like that is total, like crap and a lie, but it is true. Um, so I love that. That's like a part of the the story. Um, so I would love to dive in a little bit more now, obviously sharing about your book, but the the other side that you are so very well versed in with visibility and marketing, which are two very like it can often be scary words, I feel, like for authors, even though we're like we want people to read our books, but that means we have to tell them about it, right? So it's that I would love to hear like what, yeah, kind of pulled you into that sort of space and, yeah, a little bit about your process.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So, like most authors, marketing scared the living heck out of me when I first started writing. So I started learning about marketing about 10 years ago, which is around the time that I actually started taking my writing process seriously, and I learned marketing more so out of necessity rather than want or interest. At the time, I owned another business and I needed to figure out a way of promoting that business, and you do that through marketing. And so I read books, I took courses, you know. I listened to all of the things and started learning that marketing is not very subjective to the industry. However, there is kind of a baseline that you can apply to any industry that you're in, and so as I got further and further into writing and starting Rose Avenue, then I decided, you know, like, let's really take this model and apply it for authors, because I've seen it work before for not only myself but for some other authors that I'd worked with in the past, with some of my friends, other businesses that I've worked with, clients of mine and I was like this can absolutely work.
Speaker 2:So marketing is scary.
Speaker 2:There is no one size fits all per se, but there is a basic framework that you can follow that will help you stand out amongst the very saturated market that we have in social media.
Speaker 2:And you know, one of the things that you have to keep in mind with marketing too, is because technology is advancing so rapidly, there are going to be changes.
Speaker 2:So, even though this framework can kind of work across the board, you have to be willing to be flexible and educate yourself and move with the changes. Move with the times. You have to be willing to be flexible and educate yourself and move with the changes. Move with the times, you know, because what worked last year might not be working this year, or what works in six months might not be working three months from there, you know. So you have to really remain flexible and just stay up to date on all the things. And I know that a lot of authors will hate to hear that that they can't just take one like here's your like step-by-step guide, to hear that that they can't just take one like here's your like step by step guide and like that's going to work for you forever, but it's it's just the name of the game. Like marketing is ever evolving and we have to be flexible in it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I feel like that's such a great reminder. Just yeah, like pay attention to like what is working, what's, I guess, trending, that kind of thing and thing, and I think, like figure out how to make that work for you too, um, and like what's feasible in your, your world as well. I think that's something that I've found is like I really need to be mindful of like what I actually can do.
Speaker 1:I'm loving the whole concept of like batch recording content and like getting a level of like that sort of organization in my life, cause it just makes it so much easier, cause you're like, wow, I have stuff that I can post, amazing, awesome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Content batching is probably one of my favorite things to do. It saved me so much time because I usually batch my content two weeks at a time, so I can have two weeks where I'm just consuming other content I'm getting more ideas, you know, and and I can save things for later on down the road, but I have two weeks where it's like I don't have to stress about. Oh my gosh, what am I going to post today?
Speaker 1:Definitely, and I think it's just yeah, I find that it's inspiration and creativity kind of flows right.
Speaker 1:So you're obviously going to have times during, um the month where you're more creative and such. So really like running with that instead of just forcing yourself and staring at a screen or feeling bad because you're like I didn't post for three days. That kind of stuff, I think, is a really great reminder, because it can feel really daunting, um, especially when there is a lot right, like there's so many places to to be right and it can feel like, oh gosh, I'm not doing enough when it comes to promoting my book, and then how do you do that? And then keep writing right. So that's the challenge of like finding that balance, I find. So how do you make that work for you or for your clients? So how do you? How do you make that work for you or for your clients?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So, um, trying to be everywhere all at once is one of the struggles that all of my clients have come to me and they're like I don't know how to, how to do it. All you know and spoiler, you don't have to find one or two platforms that you really really like being on, whether that's TikTok, facebook, pinterest, instagram, um X, whichever platform that you feel most comfortable and you can. You know it's. To get on that platform Isn't going to seem daunting, it doesn't feel like a job for you. You actually like hanging out on the platform.
Speaker 2:Um, find one or two of those platforms that you really like and just stick to those. Don't feel like you have to be everywhere all at once, because then if you spread yourself too thin, then you're going to get to burn out so much quicker and then you're, you're just going to stop, you're going to throw your hands up and say, nope, this is too much, I can't do this, and then you know any of your efforts aren't going to come through and work to their, to your advantage. So I always say find one or two, excuse me, find one or two platforms that you really like, stick with those and then later on, if you want to venture out, you can, but just find the one or two that really work for you starting out and go from there.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's great advice If just like yeah, simple, keep it simple. And one thing that I'm also learning is, while you also have those platforms, really make sure to focus on like an email list and building that out, because social media is rented space and you never know when they're going to be like hey, we don't like your stuff, because I had that experience where they're like we've suspended your account.
Speaker 2:And it was a whole big.
Speaker 1:thing like this is terrifying, great, Awesome. So, yeah, it's a really great reminder of yes, that is there, but what else can you do as well? And a lot of authors that I've connected with have really talked about in-person events too of like online is a great option, but, like, what else can you do outside of that to build that sort of network and community? So I'd be curious to see, like, is that something that you also chat with clients about? Like sort of like building that, like network through social media and then like in-person as well?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, absolutely. The in-person events are great, especially for when I say this, I don't want people to think that they have to be in one specific area for these to work. When you're in a bigger city, you have more visibility because the population is larger, right, and so, with social media, you have access to anyone from anywhere right, so it's easier to connect with people online. But when you go to the in-person events, you have to make sure that you're going to these events where your visibility in person is going to be just as impactful. So I live in a relatively large city and for me, having any in-person events here would probably be more of a benefit than if I lived in a much smaller town and I had to travel to go to, you know, these bigger cities.
Speaker 2:You have to take into consideration things like what you're paying for gas, how long it's going to take you to get there, if you're going to have to pay a fee to, you know, set up a table or something like that. There's a lot of different variables that you have to take into consideration when you're doing in-person events. However, if you play your cards right and you do come up with a plan, because I fully believe that success is made in the prep work. If you have a plan for what you're doing at these in-person events, going to these larger cities or going to these places where you can rent out a space or rent out a table or whatever it may be, can be largely beneficial. And, granted, a lot of people like that face, to like that face to name, you know. So they see you on social media, but meeting you in person is a completely different thing. It's like, oh, this person is tangible, now their story is tangible, and we don't get that with social media a lot.
Speaker 1:Their story is tangible and we don't get that with social media a lot. Yeah, that's such a great point of like just that connections that you're making and I feel like, even if I think often too, when you're like connecting with people in person, like you know, talking to like 25 people feels like really overwhelming, but if we have, like you know, 25 people like our stuff, that seems like such a small number.
Speaker 1:So I feel like it can help kind of put things in perspective a little bit Um, and just like you never know when those people might be, like they might come in handy or they might have someone that is going to be your ideal reader or a client like whatever it is. So I think that that's a really cool thing of, like you said, or a client like whatever it is. So I think that that's a really cool thing of, like you said, of just kind of blending both of them and it. I feel like it's a really cool way to get your, your book, in the hands of readers or meet new, like you know, maybe potential writer friends and stuff like that I think can be a really great thing. I love that. It just sort of creativity thrives on that sort of like chaos of people.
Speaker 1:I think that's a really fun thing to do for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I mean, marketing is all about connection. It's all about building those connections because, like you said, you know it can bring along new writer friends, it can bring along clients, it can bring along people who know somebody who can help you with. You know X, y and Z. You know like building those connections are so, so pivotal to your marketing strategy. Like you, you can't just show up online and say buy my book, buy my book. And then go to these in-person events and say the same thing, because you know people want to buy into something that makes them feel, they want to feel seen, they want to have a connection with whatever it is that they're purchasing. You know and so I think it's really important that authors keep that in mind when they are doing any kind of marketing or networking events or anything like that that you're there, yes, to sell books and get your name out there, but ultimately you're there to make connections with other people, and that's what's going to help sell your book better.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's so true. It's really reminding yourself that you are playing the long game when it comes to business, and it can be hard. I feel like, especially with social media, there's this sort of pressure. I feel like sometimes of like it needs to be like quick and fast and instant and like, if I'm not going viral, like I'm doing it wrong or whatever, but like it's I think that slow and steady is a really important thing to remember of like you don't want to like overwhelm yourself as well, because that can definitely lead to like you said that burnout and then that that means that you're not creating, you're not putting out content, you're not connecting with readers and that's not really going to help you anyway. Right, so it's that process of really finding, yeah, your unique way of marketing and I think also often, like I talk about like really honoring kind of the season that you're in, like your season of life, and that's really probably going to play a role in how you can.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely. Like I said earlier, marketing changes so quickly. You have to be flexible, but it's not just marketing itself. Like you said, you have to stay in kind of the flow with where you're at in your own life. If you are about to have a baby, you're not going to be posting all the time like you normally should. You should be focusing on things at home, getting things ready for the baby or you know, if you're getting married or going to take a vacation or if you're sick, you know. Give yourself permission to slow down. It's okay if you take some time away for yourself, because when you're not showing up the best version of you, then that's going to bleed into your content, that's going to bleed into your creative writing process and people are going to pick up on that. So you really do want to be showing up the best version of you that you can be, and if that means you have to take some time away from any marketing or any writing, by all means give yourself permission to do so. That is completely okay.
Speaker 1:Yes, I love that. I think that's so true and like really like experience that in my own life where I just I'm like I had to step back for a bit and you think that the world is going to end, but it's fine and honestly I you come back with a fresh perspective, like ready to go, like the creativity is like back, versus those times when you know I'd fall into that, like I need to post or forcing it or whatever, like it's just not there, it just isn't working. You're not actively resting or in that recovery space that you need to be in and you're just going through the motions and people can feel that I feel so it's, it's not really going to do the things that you hope it's going to do right.
Speaker 1:Speaking from experience. So really like it's okay if you take a break and like start fresh, and I feel like that's the nature of creativity in general right, like if we I think it's easy for us to fall into that belief that you know, if I'm not writing like multiple books a year, or like it's something's wrong with me and I think it's it's not meant to always be on, like you're meant to have those seasons of quiet and slowing down, which is where that sort of like content you know planning or having some sort of strategy in place I feel like probably would be a benefit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And I do have some authors who will come to me and they'll they kind of have imposter syndrome because they see other authors who are releasing books like every six months and I tell them, you know, that may work for this person, but that doesn't mean that you have to follow their standard. You know you need to follow your own standard and so really giving yourself permission to kind of step back and just, you know, take time for yourself, that is, you know, the number one thing that I teach my clients, that I teach any authors who reach out and have questions for me, is you need to be honoring yourself first and foremost, because everything else will fall into place when you're in alignment with what you need to be doing.
Speaker 1:Yes, such a great point. It's so true it's hard to like fully, like get it, but once you do, I feel like it makes such a difference and it makes the process a lot more enjoyable, I find, when you just kind of like do it like. I'm going to do it my way. I'm going to like lean in a little bit to the trends and stuff, but I'm still going to like just be myself. I feel like it's creating content doesn't feel so daunting.
Speaker 1:I find that those are the pieces of content that do the best, too, when I'm like, let's just simple, put it through.
Speaker 1:And, too, when I'm like, let's just simple put it through and if people, they seem to like it, so it's the ones that I spent hours on that I never like. Oh, okay, I definitely fell into perfectionism here and wasted a lot of time for not much. You know, feedback, I guess. But it's all good, it's all good. Um, I would love to hear what would be a piece of advice that you would have for somebody who is just starting out their writing journey.
Speaker 2:So for someone who's just starting out on their writing journey, I would say have fun with it, don't overcomplicate it, because when you overcomplicate things you lose the fun and when you lose the fun your creativity suffers. Then it starts feeling more like you have to do it. It feels more like a job. It's like a chore, you know. So just have fun with it. Allow yourself to kind of flow with various ideas.
Speaker 2:If you have multiple ideas for multiple books at one time, work on all of them if you want to. You know, don't lock yourself into just one project. Just really give yourself that creative freedom. Make sure that you're having fun with every aspect of it, because that's really going to speak through everything else that you do following after that, when it comes into the marketing and the in-person events and talking to friends and family about your book and trying to get them interested in it. If you're not interested in it, if you're not excited about it, they're going to pick up on that. So have fun, don't overcomplicate it. And, you know, just allow yourself to kind of jump back and forth between projects if you have different ideas pulling at you.
Speaker 1:I love that right Like it's. It's really. I feel like the simplest advice is always the best, even though we like to so overcomplicate it, like just write the book and just do it the way that you want to do it, Right, and then you could go back and rework it or shift it or like whatever after. But you, yeah it's, you just need to get the story out first and, and you know, if it's something that you love that's like you said it's going to shine through and, yeah, you're going to read your book a million times, so if you don't love it, it's going to be a challenge.
Speaker 2:Right, right, and I mean the. The purpose of your first draft is just for it to simply exist. You know, like they say, you can't edit a blank page. Well, you know, get your story out. You know, just write it and have fun with it. And then you can go back and start structuring it and making changes and getting a little bit more serious about it in the second draft and third draft and you know however many drafts you have to go through, but the first draft, seriously, just have fun with it.
Speaker 2:Like, play around with it, write random things. You know, like keep a notebook with you or keep your phone with you, write ideas down as they come to you, because I am very bad about ideas coming to me when I'm like driving or when I'm in the shower and I'm like, oh crap, I need to remember this. So, like, write all your ideas down. Sometimes they're gonna work into your story, sometimes they're not to work into your story, sometimes they're not, and that's okay, you can save them for another story. But just have fun with it. That's the biggest thing, is have fun with it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, definitely, and it just makes the process that much more enjoyable, because it's really cool to be able to put these characters that you've had in your head for however long, onto paper and like, see what they do. And often they kind of do their thing and you're like, but why? This is not what my plan was, and they just kind of wander, uh, around and it's fun to get to know them. Um, well, it was lovely chatting with you. I'd love for you to share how people can get in touch with you and follow along, um, with kind of your business side of things and also, um, get their hands on your books.
Speaker 2:So you guys can follow me at at Rose Avenue Literary, on Instagram, on TikTok. I'm on Pinterest, but I don't post on there Pretty much any social media platform. It's at Rose Avenue Literary and then also my website is roseavenueliterarycom. You can email me at hello at roseavenueliterarycom. Everything's roseavenueliterarycom, or you know the handle Um, and then for my books they will be available um through Barnes and Noble Amazon, all the major book uh sellers once it releases in June, Amazing, Awesome.
Speaker 1:Well, everything will be linked in the show notes. It'll be super easy for people to click through and find you and and your books and your business. So, yeah, it was lovely chatting with you and I feel like I learned a lot. I always find it fascinating to hear about yeah, just other other authors, takes on on marketing and and kind of making it more enjoyable, because that's always that's what I need in my life More, more fun Me too.
Speaker 1:Thanks so much for listening to today's episode. I would love if you would leave a review and also if you loved the author that we chatted with. Go find them on social media and hype them up, comment on their stuff, share their work, Even if you can't buy the book. These kinds of things are great ways of supporting indie authors and getting their book in front of new readers, and if you are a writer or author in need of a developmental editor, please reach out. I would love to chat. Everything is linked in the show notes and it would be an absolute honor to be able to get eyes on your novel. So, thanks again and listen to the next episode.
