From Accidental Idea To Spicy, Layered Love Story with Kelly R. Nelson

Story Synopsis:   

The Devil & The Details is a dark, emotionally charged slow-burn romance that blurs the line between love and danger. After escaping a past built on control and silence, Bethany Martin is a woman learning to trust again when she meets Kevin Sinclair, whose calm warmth feels like redemption. Their connection is instant—magnetic, consuming, impossible to ignore. But the more she lets him in, the more the truth beneath his tenderness begins to surface.

What begins as healing turns into something far more complicated. Boundaries blur, and the intensity that once felt safe begins to smother. Bethany, torn between desire and dread, realizes that some love stories aren’t meant to save you—they’re meant to destroy you.

Told with haunting intimacy and cinematic tension, The Devil & The Details explores how easily passion can become possession and how survival sometimes means walking away from the person who swore to protect you. Because sometimes the devil doesn’t come to destroy you; he comes disguised as everything you ever wanted.

About the Author — Kelly R. Nelson

Kelly R. Nelson is an independent author who writes emotionally charged romantic suspense layered with realism, raw vulnerability, and characters that linger long after the final page.

Drawing inspiration from music and human complexity, her stories explore the thin line between love and destruction, healing and heartbreak. When she’s not writing, Kelly works full-time and balances life as a mother, dreamer, and storyteller.

She currently resides in California and is the author of The Devil & The Details, the first book in her riveting duology exploring the darker edges of love, trauma, and redemption.

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Instagram, TikTok & Threads: @kellyrnelsonstoryteller

Website: www.kellyrnelsonstoryteller.com

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Transcript

Welcome And Host Offerings

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Welcome to Bookshop Chats, where we cozy up with books, creativity, and embrace the magical, messy process of writing a book. I'm Victoria Jane, a writer, developmental editor, and coach for sensitive busy writers, and I love to support you on your journey of bringing your story to life. So whether you're here for inspiration, behind the scenes peaks of what it what it means to actually write a book, or just some bookish conversations, you are definitely in the right place. And if you're looking for more personalized support, I also offer one-to-one writing support sessions to help bring your story to life because sometimes you need a little bit of support digging through the noise that is your brain because same. And if you've got a finished draft, I would love to chat to you about developmental editing. It is my favorite thing. I love supporting authors in bringing their story to life. You can find all of the details in the show notes. So grab a coffee, grab a tea, plug in your headphones, go on a little walk, and let's dive into today's episode.

Meet Kelly R. Nelson

SPEAKER_00 1:14

Welcome back to Bookshop Chats. In today's episode, I am chatting with Kelly R. Nelson. Welcome to the podcast. Thank you. Thank you for having me. I am very excited to chat with you this morning. It's still, I I say it's early. It's like nine o'clock my time, so it's like sort of early. But I am pumped to hear all about your book. I was reading a little bit of um some of the details that you had left for me, and I'm I'm already I'm already interested. So I'm gonna give you the floor and let you introduce this book that is pretty new to being out in the world.

The Accidental Book Idea

SPEAKER_00 1:52

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 1:52

Um I wrote a book by accident called The Devil in the Details, and I like to say by accident because it really truly was. Um I actually was driving home from somewhere and I had this random internal monologue. I, you know, was like, oh, this is interesting. And I tried to find a piece of paper to just like write the book, uh like this the actual um monologue, and I couldn't find anything. So I had to like pull over and email it to myself. So um when I did that, it kind of just marinated for a while. And then I said, okay, well, let me just see where this goes. And somewhere in between me writing for about almost a month, it hit me. I think I'm writing a book. So uh, and uh so the book The Devil in the Details came to me by accident um a year ago, like November of 2024.

Plot, Red Flags, And Control

SPEAKER_01 2:50

So it it took hold. Um, it's about a girl named Bethany Martin, where she moves to beautiful Southern California because that's where I'm from, and she's just trying to escape her past. And then, of course, she meets a guy who kind of is everything she needs. And of course, what happens is he, you know, ultimately breaks her heart. And um, the story's about ignoring red flags, and I think we all have been there when we're dating someone, and the sex is good, and the red flags just seem to go away. And the way I write, I actually give all of my readers a flash forward so we know where the story's going. Yeah, and that's only because that's how my brain works. That's like I write the plot and I I just need to just put it on a piece of paper. But what I wanted to do was um kind of, okay, not kinda, I wanted to love bomb my readers. So we know where we're going, but what happens is people read my book and they totally forget chapter one, and they're so involved with Kevin and Bethany's story. Then when things start to kind of change up, it's a little too late. And I go, Well, guys, I told you where we were going. You just have to remember. So, um, and it's also about um my theme of my book is control. And what does control look like? And that's one of the things that Bethany has to deal with. She's messy, she has a past, and you know, so does Kevin. And I think with their relationship, what I was trying to just do is show people, especially when you're dating someone, it's okay to ask the questions. Oftentimes we find ourselves not asking those questions. And so what happens when you don't ask the questions? Well, a mess happens, and you know, all the things that they go through could have been, you know, fixed if they just would have pushed each other a little bit more instead of just being in that honeymoon stage of the relationship.

Structure, Flash Forward, And POV

SPEAKER_00 4:57

I love that. And I think writing it in that way is really kind of feels very fitting to the story that you're you're trying to tell as well, of with that sort of like control, love bombing, all of that kind of stuff that is uh can be a common thing in, you know, toxic red flag, you know, kind of relationships. So I think that's a really cool way of kind of like challenging the genre a little bit uh and making it kind of like your unique signature uh when it comes to writing.

SPEAKER_01 5:26

Yes, unfortunately, the thing, un unfortunately though, what I realize is that because I make these people human and they have so many layers to them, it makes it so complicated as the author to go, okay, so what are we doing here? What are we, what are we trying to say? And will the reader understand everything? Um, so far they have, um, but I do feel like I make my life a lot more complicated because I write so many layers. Because even with Kevin, he has a backstory and what that looks like. Um, and I actually wrote this book. It started off just solely in Bethany's voice, and then probably maybe act two, that's when I decided to do a do a POV. And I wrote it in Kevin's voice, which gave the book another layer of okay, this is where he's coming from. So it just became, again, this thing. And and I am I appreciate like all the people who have read it and reviewed it and rated it, and I appreciate the fact that people are really enjoying their story. And it's a love story, it really is. Definitely.

SPEAKER_00 6:45

I think right, it's messy, and I think that's that's real life, right? So I think writing characters that are like that are yeah, it just feels real, and that's um all about that in in um fiction, even though we're escaping a little bit. So there is, you know, we we do like to have a little bit of the wild, wild dreams in in the stories too, but I I love real, raw, relatable characters as well.

Writing While Working And Parenting

SPEAKER_00 7:11

Um, I would love to hear a little bit about like your writing process. Like, how do you um kind of like make it work? Uh, I know that we were chatting a little bit before recording, and you work as well as writing. So that's always something that I'm curious to see is like how do you find time to get these words out?

SPEAKER_01 7:33

I work like my ship is like 7 a.m. to 3 30, and then I come home and I might just relax for about, especially um writing the the end of this book, I kind of got a little bit more serious. So I would come home, relax for maybe an hour or two. Um, at the time writing this book, I still had my son living with me. He's in college now, so I'm an empty nester, but I would still have to go to like crack meets and do the mom thing. And can you pick me up from here? Can you take me to work? And so I just kind of dedicated at least two hours to myself for writing. And I live in like a small two-bedroom apartment in California. So the only place that I could write with a family of three was in my living room. So I would have the boys, I call them, uh, my partner and my boyfriend walk by asking me questions. What are you doing? Are you writing? And I'm like looking at them like clearly the computer is here. So I would take that time out and I would write, and then towards the end, it got so serious for me. I would be up until like midnight writing and just getting it all out. Um, and what helped my process is that one of the things that's great about my book, The Devil in the Details, is that I actually have a playlist that is in the book. And then it's actually I have it on Amazon, Spotify, and um Apple Music. But I use a lot of music

Playlists And Music As A Character

SPEAKER_01 9:05

in the book because she also sings karaoke. So I would help I would use the music to help me focus, but then also make the music uh a third character in my book. So I kind of just would try to just ignore them for the time being as I I would write and just get into it, you know. And now as I'm writing my next book, I have the house to myself. So I still do the whole hour of not worrying about work, just kind of vegging out for a second. And then, you know, for the most part, I will write until at least like 10:30, 11:30. And the other night I wrote until 1210. Um, because I'm you know crazy. But I needed to get the scene out. So yeah, I just kind of put myself on a set schedule.

SPEAKER_00 9:52

I love that. I think that's it's so simple too. And I think sometimes we can overcomplicate it uh when it comes to that stuff. And I I do feel like each of the stories are so unique, and sometimes you're just in it and you're like, I have to, I have to keep writing, or sometimes you're like, uh, is my hour done yet? Because this is this is killing me. This is not working, it's not flowing. Uh, but I think the fact that you just keep showing up is is the biggest thing, and those slow, steady like movements forward all add up and make such a difference and actually result in you getting a book out. So that's freaking amazing.

SPEAKER_01 10:30

And I'm a pantster, so I don't have an outline. Um, when I write any scene, I'm actually in my head, I'm I'm seeing it as a movie. So I I am literally seeing it as a movie. So I just started hanging out with a whole bunch of authors, and they're like, oh, do you

Pantsing, Layers, And Twists

SPEAKER_01 10:50

have an outline? Okay, are you on act one or two or three and the W? And I had, I'm like, I have no idea what you're talking about. My brain just creates the story and I just follow the story along. Um, it's just so happens that I understand the concept of books and how they're written because I listen to and read a lot of books, so I get it, but I there's there's no training that I have gone to. It's just get this story out. And sometimes, like the devil in the deep tells, I didn't know the ending until the middle of the book. And then I go, Oh, this is what I'm gonna do. They're not gonna like me, but it's fine. So, you know, would love that. What's a girl to do, but to make the readers angry?

SPEAKER_00 11:36

Right? That's I feel like ultimately that is the goal of an author is to make your readers feel something, whether it is joy, love, uh, sadness, or anger, um, where they're like, I can't believe you did this to me, but I love it. So that is that is always the goal. Um, so if they're feeling something, you did it right in my book.

SPEAKER_01 11:56

That's that's actually my goal. And I actually got the idea from Rebecca Yarrows um when she was doing the Onyx Storm interviews, and she said that she wrote Liam and she knew he was going to die. And I said, that was very evil of you. And I cried and I loved this character, but then I was like, ooh, I like I like that. So kind of going into this book, I I knew that I wanted to give some twists that people didn't see coming. And of course, I have gotten a couple of DMs, like really, or text messages, and I'm like, calm down, sorry, not sorry, just keep reading. So uh just keep reading, just push through, you'll be fine, I promise you. So, but yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:45

I love that. I love that. Um, well, you mentioned uh a bit ago um that you don't have like any like training when it comes to writing, which I feel like is really cool that like you can this is such a a wonderful sort of like I don't know, it's not even a hobby anymore, like this the calling, if you will, that like just sort of pulls us in.

Grief, Timing, And A Debut Launch

SPEAKER_00 13:06

Was writing something that you did as a kid, or did it just kind of happen as you got older?

SPEAKER_01 13:12

No, writing's actually always been a part of my life. I mean, I think I should have known uh that I wanted well, I did at one point knew that I wanted to be a writer, but my favorite book as a kid was Dear Mr. Henshaw. I'm aging myself, it's fine. I'm an elder millennial, and um, it's about a boy who wants to be a writer who writes his favorite author. So that kind of sparked everything, and I read a lot. Um, we didn't have the internet. Oh gosh, I feel old.

SPEAKER_00 13:42

Oh gosh, I I know I'm I'm saying I'm an 86 baby, so like it's all good.

SPEAKER_01 13:48

We didn't have the internet back in 1900. Um so we had books, and so we read, and so even in school, I was in the school newspaper, um, my junior high school year. I wrote under the pen name Dolly Madison. Don't know why. Random. And then in high school, I was um an actual um, I wrote on the newspaper and I was the entertainment editor for a school paper, and then I actually wanted to go to school for literature and become a writer, and I end up, you know, getting pregnant, and that just caught it, halted things, and I had made the decision that you know I wanted to take care of my daughter and do whatever I need. So I, you know, had you know my daughter and just worked many, many jobs, and then I had my son and continue to just do the most random jobs, even working for Miss Cleo. That was fun. Um, but the most random jobs, and then finally, eventually, um the first book that I wrote that people I'm learning. Um, I guess in the author community, it's called Your Clearing of Your Throat book. So um it's called Sisters It's Not the Way. And it was another idea that I came up with. And um I I love the story, but in a way

Marketing Reality And Visibility

SPEAKER_01 15:10

I'm kind of a little embarrassed because I did everything myself from the cover. I tried to edit my best, I tried to format guys. It was, you know, it was 2015. I had no idea what I was doing, but I wrote that story and then I kind of just silently put it out and then really didn't, you know, do anything with it. And so, you know, writing has always been a part of my life. Um, lyrics, I wrote a play. I just never really went for it as a career. It just kind of was almost like an outlet.

SPEAKER_00 15:42

Yeah, I love that. I think that's such uh I mean, it can come in so many different forms. And I feel like too with writing, there's something kind of magical that happens when you come to it later in life. Like I feel like, especially like late 30s, 40s, it's all about like rediscovering all the things that you loved as like a teenager, I feel like. Um, at least in my experience. So it's it's kind of cool to bring that stuff back into life and kind of take it seriously again and be like, no, wait, like I I'm confident enough to go after this and I've lived life enough to to like actually have characters that have like layers and stuff. So I think that that's a really cool thing to do. And I love I love seeing these amazing books get out in the world. Uh whether you're like 15 or like 84. I think we just need to keep writing, we just keep writing the books.

SPEAKER_01 16:36

I do believe in divine timing. So I mean, I literally started this journey of writing the devil in the details November of 2024. Now it took me all the way up until August of 2025 to get it to where it needs to be for being published. But with that being said, September, the very first week of September, I was dropping my son off to college, my baby boy. So it gave me the book actually helped me with grieving the the loss of my, I will never admit that I love him and he doesn't annoy me. But it helped me with with grieving the loss of having my son here. I was able to focus on all things marketing, and I say that with love. I do. Um, and I'm very sarcastic, but it helped me focus on that. And if I didn't have the devil in the details, I don't think I don't know what I would do because I did kind of go through a little depression being that my son left for college, and he left and went to Brooklyn for heaven's sakes, clear across the country. So, you know, so I think it's just divine timing. Everything has aligned for me from putting the book out to getting my book into bookstores. And I'm a I could I call myself a baby author. You know, I don't really have a very large platform, but I'm in four bookstores. I mean, I I uh a library, the library system in the UK has bought my book. So now

Bookstores, Signings, And Momentum

SPEAKER_01 18:12

you can you can order it there. So it's just very interesting. Again, it's divine timing. And then I'm I'm interviewing with you a year ago. You couldn't tell me that I would be doing a podcast. Absolutely not. Not at all. So yeah, it just worked out.

SPEAKER_00 18:29

So cool. I love that. I get so excited seeing that kind of like uh people following their their dreams and goals. And I think that that's that's a cool thing because I I, you know, being a mom myself, of like that sort of transition of like they're it's like you're just taking care of them for so long, and then suddenly, you know, they're adults and doing their thing. It's I mean, ultimately that's our goal as parents is to raise them so that they can be self-sufficient and go off into the world. But there's like that huge grief period too of transition of like, wait a minute, like who am I? What do I do? So to have that opportunity to funnel that energy into your book and this sort of creative endeavor, I think that's such a lovely, lovely way of like you said, like navigating the grief. Because writing is such a great tool for um processing emotions.

SPEAKER_01 19:17

It's a full sucker moment, if you think about it. I originally was going to go to college for literature to write. I had my first child, and then by the time my second child was going to college, I'm back to writing. And not only did I write a book, I'm putting it out. So, I mean, part of me and the way I feel is that all of these things had to happen. Everything's connected for a reason. And my journey was to take care of these beautiful human beings and watch the world because that's what I do, and then take what I've seen in the world and put it on a piece of paper.

SPEAKER_00 19:54

So I yeah, I so so love that. That is, yeah, it's just amazing for me. Um, I'm so excited for you. Um, so obviously, I want to like talk about some marketing. Like you just sort of like casually dropped that the UK library system has your book. So that's amazing. I'd love to hear a little bit about like how that transpired for you.

SPEAKER_01 20:16

Okay, so I'm gonna be really like I'm gonna this is really seriously. Like, listen to me, all new authors that are coming into this world. If you're writing the book, start your social media. I was literally at an event yesterday and I someone's writing their book. I just start, just start, because actually, I didn't start my social media campaign or being Kelly R. Nelson, the storyteller, until June of this year. And you think you write the book and you put it out in the world, and someone's gonna talk about it, and then the book influencer is gonna pick it up. No, no, no, no, no, not at all. Marketing is I have grown so much,

Celebrating Wins And Community Support

SPEAKER_01 21:02

but I do loathe it so much. It's you know, it's not about whether or not you wrote a good book, it's all about visibility. And so um what I have learned is I'm really good at Canva now. Um I've done so many Canva flyers, I've gotten really good with it. And but for me, it's social media engagement that has really helped me with marketing. I'm really big on threads. Um, and I'm kind of, I think I'm a little shadow banned just a little bit because I might have like put my link out one too many times. But in my defense, it was all for people who wanted self-like they wanted book recks. So threads, please give me my, you know, give me my engagement back on those posts. But um so I've just been like tipping away. I've reached out on threads to different people, and I post videos on Instagram and reels, and then the TikTok of it all, don't get me started on that one. But what I've been learning with my readers and my audience is they want to see me, the true authentic person, which is a hot mess, and we all love a hot mess. Uh, but it's who I am, and so I've just been able to do that, and I've been getting a lot of engagement because of that. Um, and you know, marketing pieces for bookstores, I kind of had to research that. I've done a lot of research in this journey in this short period of time, and I think it does have to do with a lot of what I do outside of writing, and so that requires me to do a lot of research. So I I put together a one-piece marketing page with my cover and with my blurb and my ISBN number and all of that stuff, and then I just kind of slowly started to create a list and I started emailing bookstores. Yeah, and it just started to happen for me. So again, I think you know, divine timing is everything. But I'm thankful. So thankful.

SPEAKER_00 23:04

A hundred percent. It is like

Where To Find Kelly And The Book

SPEAKER_00 23:06

you said, it is a lot of work. I feel like that's the hard part. I you think that writing the book is the hardest part, and then you're like, wait a minute. Oh no, uh, I have to market all of this. And I think uh, like for me, like social media, I mean, it is what it is. I've given up trying to make sense of like why posts do better than the other. I just am like, I like this, I'm gonna put it out. So I think that that really ties back to that like authenticity of just like just show up and do what you can. And at the end of the day, like that's as good as it's gonna get, right? So like keeping up and consistency and taking those risks is gonna be what defines the right readers. And it you're in it for the long game, right? So this is obviously not gonna be like your only book. Um, obviously, like you've got one already, like two out in the world, but this one is the one that feels like the strong one for you. So it's it's only the beginning. So I think that's something that can be hard when you're like a new author and you see all of these amazing, you know, established authors that have like a backlist and and all of this stuff, and you're like, oh, like how am I ever gonna get there? But you do, it just takes time, right? Like you said, like you wake up one day and you're like, Holy crap, this is my life. What?

SPEAKER_01 24:23

I actually did my first author signing uh like last weekend um at the OC Book Fair, and I the very first bookstore that said, Hey, yes, we'll carry your book. Um, it's a bookstore. If I hope you don't mind, I'm gonna shout them out. Yeah, yes. Underdog bookstore in Monrovia.

Spicy Scale And Reader Conversations

SPEAKER_01 24:44

Um the owner is fantastic. It's the first bookstore that I've actually been to, and I just feel the love and I feel included. And as someone who sometimes doesn't feel like people get me, um, as much as I'm an extrovert, I'm also a very introverted person. And she, you know, was like, hey, Kelly, yeah, well, carry your book. And um I feel almost like she doesn't know this, but she's like kind of my guardian angel because since I hooked up with her, it seems like other bookstores was like, you know, know each other, but it just felt like she kind of started this train. And then so she was doing a um, she was there at the um OC Book Fair and she asked me to collab. And you know, I did an hour signing, and um, it was the most amazing experience that I've ever ever dealt with. And I am a baby author, and I had established authors who follow me on threads, like, hey Kelly, and I'm like, hi, and I like who are you? And then like, I stock you on social media. I've had three people tell me this now, so I'm like, oh okay.

Host Resources And Closing

SPEAKER_01 26:00

And then in my head, I'm like, this is a thing. Okay, be prepared. But because of that, you know, it just it was it was just such an amazing experience. And so, like, again, divine timing, what does that look like? You know, it's just again, this I after that um book signing, I just felt like an energy shift. And I felt like this train that left the station that was going really, really slow is picking up, and I just need to be prepared for all of the things that come after this, and so I'm just you know embracing that. And then, oh, and another bookstore that carries my books. Um, they they reached out and told me they sold out, and I was like, Oh, what is going on? So, yeah, I'm just like, okay, like this thing is happening, and I I love that for me, but it's also like, what in the world? So right, and I'm in that, I'm by myself, I'm a one-woman show, you know? So I just keep going.

SPEAKER_00 27:09

It is, it is a lot. Uh, but it's that's so cool, and I feel like it's something that I am like so guilty of of like not celebrating enough of these like wins that you're like, oh, but you know, maybe I only sold like however many books, but it's still that's amazing. I am so stoked that you are like, yeah, it just is such a a motivator, I think. And it's I I know that you you talked about that, like that one person that for whatever reason they just seem like the the one that was like they took a chance, they took a risk, and it's the beginning of like everything. And I definitely have had those those people in my life too, where you're like, like, wow, like it it felt like everything changed after we connected. And that's like so cool.

SPEAKER_01 27:54

I actually I I struggle with stopping and pausing and appreciating the moment. Um, I think it's just part of my generation, honestly. Yeah, but um because so my first month, I wanted to sell like again, baby platform. I have maybe 200 people, right? I wanted to sell 50 books from September 17th to September 30th. Yeah, I sold 49. That's amazing. I was not happy because I didn't hit that 50 book.

SPEAKER_00 28:33

I know that, I know that feeling all too well.

SPEAKER_01 28:36

So someone was like, You're you're all or nothing type of person. I was like, Yeah, and I was like, and that's not healthy, no, and I know it's not, and so I was like, for the book signing, I just said, I just want to sell one. One person buys a book for me, I'm happy. And so when they kept coming and I kept talking and I kept signing, I was like, holy crap! And then I posted a video like right afterwards, which kind of in my world kind of went viral because um I don't have a large following, and it was me trying to hold on to that moment and really like trying to save it. And I was just like, oh my gosh, this thing just happened and I I feel it, like I feel it, I appreciate the moment, and so you know, I'm now trying to learn how to celebrate the wins, but since I'm a one-woman show, it's very difficult because the show has to go on. I have to write my next book, I have to go on social media, I have to market, I have to engage with people, you know, I have to say, oh, I got an another review or I got a rating. This is where we are. It's just a lot, it's a lot, but you know, I'm I'm doing the best that I can.

SPEAKER_00 29:53

A hundred percent. And I think, like you said, it's just it's something that you learn, right? Like uh learning how to celebrate like all the little things is it's a skill and a practice and kind of like a muscle that you have to like keep getting better at using. Uh, because it is hard to do that, uh, especially kind of in the world now where it feels like it only counts if it's viral, you know, like we're kind of obsessed with this sort of like big, big like million views, like kind of like that sort of noise where we forget, like being at that in-person event. I imagine you just kept having these people. So even if like 20 people are coming up to sign your book, you're like, oh my god, like this feels insane. Like this is wild, like so cool. So I think sometimes like it's good to have that perspective shift to be like, okay, this is still pretty darn awesome that you know, 49 people have bought my book or more now, I'm assuming, and they're reading it, and that's amazing.

SPEAKER_01 30:51

And that's what I'm saying. And that's the thing. And you know, having being around going to so Underdog Bookstore has an author meetup group, and being around other authors that I have actually have now become really good friends with um an author. Her name is she goes by Evelyn Austin, and she's been writing for a very long time. She has to, I like I've crashed out. We want to talk about crash out. I've crashed out three or four times as this baby author, and she goes, Kelly, you don't understand, you are doing something that a lot of people can't do, won't do. There's so many people on in this world that says they want to write a book. You didn't write one, you wrote two, and on top of that, you've gotten your book in multiple bookstores, like you're doing great. It's not about your book being bad, it's just about putting the time in and know that you are doing an amazing job. And so being around people who have been in the game for a very long time and just kind of saying, girl, you need to chill out, you know, it's helped me a lot. And this, you know, again, my it's no like it's been three months since my book has been out, and my numbers have been, you know, very good. So I'm like, stop, stop it, Kelly. Stop, you know.

SPEAKER_00 32:22

So definitely. I feel like you you need to have that person that can just kind of like whack you in the head with with your book and be like, look at what you created, you crazy woman. Like, calm down. Um, I think having people that can tell you like that is is always helpful. Well, it's been like so, so lovely chatting with you. I would love for you to share how people can follow along um with you and your writing journey and also get their hands on your book because that's obviously necessary.

SPEAKER_01 32:52

Awesome. Okay, well, I am on all platforms under Kelly R. Nelson Storyteller. I do have a Facebook page, Kelly R. Nelson, the author. For all of my scammers out there, please stop trying to chat me up on Facebook. Yes. And I also have a website, Kelly R. Nelson Storyteller Teller, and also scammers, please stop putting your contact information there. And because I see you're you're where you're at, and I know you're trying to get me to click on the link. Um gotta say that. Um, it's very important. And you know, if you you can find my book, of course, on you know, Amazon, of course, but you can go to any um bookstore that you like and put The Devil and the Details by Kelly R. Nelson in and it will show up. My personal preference, of course, is I'm gonna support underdog bookstores as much as possible. They are so they also are a nonprofit and they're really good for the community and they do a lot of good things. So if you want to get the book from there, you can, or you can get it from my Joex direct website and ask for the ebook because I can't sell them for the life of me. Everybody likes paperback, but right now it's on Kindle Unlimited. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:15

I love that. Amazing. Well, everything will be linked in the show notes, so it will be super easy for people to click through and find you and your book. And it was so lovely chatting with you. I feel like I learned so much, and it was such a such a great like energy boost to get me up and like motivated to to crush the day.

SPEAKER_01 34:34

Well, thank you. It's raining here in California, so um we've gotten so much rain. Uh, hopefully, you know, hopefully it's my car is not flooded. It's fine. It'll be all right. So I appreciate you again. I think everything happens for a reason, and you were the boost that I needed to kind of confirm, like I'm doing the right thing and I'm on the right path. And I just hope that everyone enjoys the story between Kevin and Bethany. The devil in the details is just not a story that you can just read and put down. My ultimate goal is to have you feel everything, and my ultimate goal is for you to have those conversations with your friends about the themes that are in the book. So, and you know, the sex is very spicy. So, yes, yeah, it's it's it's a it's a four, okay? So if you're not into that, I'm so sorry. But yeah, it's a four out of five.

SPEAKER_00 35:33

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