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I think there's something"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1589.28,"endTime":1593.12,"body":"really delightful about a man"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1593.12,"endTime":1596.51,"body":"with a mouthful of smoke kissing"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1593.12,"endTime":1596.51,"body":"you you suck that smoke down"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1596.51,"endTime":1599.72,"body":"into your lungs, you have a nice"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1596.51,"endTime":1599.72,"body":"long kiss, you finish the kiss."},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1600.29,"endTime":1603.44,"body":"And then you pause a moment and"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1600.29,"endTime":1603.44,"body":"you lean your head back and he"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1603.44,"endTime":1607.13,"body":"can visibly see the stream of"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1603.44,"endTime":1607.13,"body":"smoke coming out of your mouth."},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1607.64,"endTime":1611.96,"body":"So erotic. 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But it's"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1749.9,"endTime":1754.85,"body":"not really a problem. These also"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1754.85,"endTime":1758.84,"body":"tend to be very much so less"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1754.85,"endTime":1758.84,"body":"claustrophobia sizing because"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1758.84,"endTime":1762.71,"body":"you have a big clear faceplate"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1758.84,"endTime":1762.71,"body":"so you don't feel very enclosed"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1762.71,"endTime":1767.03,"body":"at all, even though you are now"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1762.71,"endTime":1767.03,"body":"some tips for bottoms who are"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1767.03,"endTime":1771.14,"body":"going to be bottoming to a gas"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1767.03,"endTime":1771.14,"body":"mask and a smoke SEC scene. Keep"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1771.14,"endTime":1775.1,"body":"in mind that generally, you're"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1771.14,"endTime":1775.1,"body":"in control of how much smoke you"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1775.1,"endTime":1779.06,"body":"actually get simply based on how"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1775.1,"endTime":1779.06,"body":"much you're breathing in. So if"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1779.06,"endTime":1781.4,"body":"you can control your breathing"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1779.06,"endTime":1781.4,"body":"and take a shallow breath, get a"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1781.4,"endTime":1784.94,"body":"little bit of smoke. Take a deep"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1781.4,"endTime":1784.94,"body":"breath to get a lot of smoke. 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You"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1826.01,"endTime":1829.07,"body":"don't want to try to feed"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1826.01,"endTime":1829.07,"body":"someone smoke when they're on an"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1829.07,"endTime":1832.13,"body":"exhale, because that's not going"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1829.07,"endTime":1832.13,"body":"to work. You want to feed it"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1832.16,"endTime":1835.55,"body":"along with their inhale. So"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1832.16,"endTime":1835.55,"body":"putting the hose to my ear lets"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1835.55,"endTime":1838.55,"body":"me know when are they inhaling"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1835.55,"endTime":1838.55,"body":"when are they exhaling so I know"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1838.55,"endTime":1841.64,"body":"when to feed the smoke. If"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1838.55,"endTime":1841.64,"body":"you're using one of the large"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1841.64,"endTime":1845.84,"body":"faceplate masks like an SCBA you"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1841.64,"endTime":1845.84,"body":"may want to spit in it and rub"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1845.84,"endTime":1849.32,"body":"that spit all around. That will"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1845.84,"endTime":1849.32,"body":"keep the mask from fogging up."},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1849.53,"endTime":1853.28,"body":"And it's also kind of hot. When"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1849.53,"endTime":1853.28,"body":"you put any sort of mask on that"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1853.28,"endTime":1856.94,"body":"uses straps. Start at the bottom"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1853.28,"endTime":1856.94,"body":"and work your way up tightening"},{"speaker":"Edge ","startTime":1856.94,"endTime":1860.24,"body":"the straps. 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