Welcome to Full Cow, a podcast about leather and kink where your host, Edge (he/him), shares his 30+ years of experience in the community. In this season finale, we look back at the past year and look ahead to what's next.
Edge shares the story of the history and production of the podcast, looks at some of the metrics the podcast has generated, reflects on the highs and lows of the last season, and then looks ahead to Season 2.
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It's the season finale this podcast contains material intended for a mature audience. Before proceeding, please check your local laws and confirm that you are an adult. Welcome to full cow podcast about leather, kink and BDSM. My name is edge My pronouns are he him, and I'm your host. Welcome to the season finale of full cow. Yes, we have completed one full year of episodes. And this episode is all about celebrating that. So I'm going to start by talking a little bit about the history of this podcast where it started, as well as what it takes to put it together. Then for funsies, we're going to look at some of the metrics of how the podcast has done and who you are as a listener. Then I'll talk a little bit about the highs and lows of this past season, highlighting some of my favorite segments in interviews, while talking about some of the difficulties of assembling the podcast. Finally, we're going to talk about what's coming in store for season two, there will be some changes, some of which I think, are fairly exciting. This is not a usual episode. But still, I think it's a good episode. And with that I say, let's get started. Thought I would start with the story of the origin of this podcast, a story which few of you perhaps none of you actually know. And the short version of that story is this. This is all your fault. You know, I grew up hating the sound of my voice. And I don't think that is anything particularly unique to me, I think many people dislike hearing the sound of their own voice. But for me, it was especially painful. My voice has never been really deep. And I would often be misgendered when talking to people on the phone. So I would call some company, some customer service line and I would be treated and called a woman. And that was uncomfortable and a little painful. And led to some shame about the sound of my voice. To this day. If you go into my office, there are about 13 Missed calls on my office phone, because everyone knows the best way to reach me is email and not phone. Part of that's because I'm really good at answering email. And I'm in a lot of meetings and I can answer email anywhere. But it's also because I still dislike speaking on the phone. I still fear being misgendered when I call someone, and I have a special phone voice which has about maybe a quarter octave lower than my actual voice in an effort to make sure I am properly gendered. So I never liked the sound of my voice. And when I started doing the videos on Twitter and Instagram, I was mostly kind of ignoring the fact that I was speaking and hearing my own voice. But you all of you started providing me the most surprising feedback. People started by saying, Wow, I love the sound of your voice. Wow, I could listen to you all day. And that was just shocking to me that people could actually enjoy the sound of my voice when I had clustered so much shame around it. As part of that. A few people started saying you should do a podcast and I got maybe four or five comments on different videos suggesting I do a podcast and I put it in the back of my mind in my Hopper as I was adjusting to the fact that hey, actually, people like your voice why? Yes, people liked my voice. Then I left a relationship. And suddenly I had a lot of space and time to fill. And more importantly, I needed to be doing something because I was going to be dating. And you know, I don't know when the last time you date it is first of all, dating is horrific. And I do not recommend it to anyone. It is not a fun process in any way. But one of the things I have found important when I'm dating is that I have something to talk about because you meet some When they're hot, you're hot, you flirt. And then they start asking about you and about what you'd like to do and about what's going on in your life. And so whenever I ended up dating, I try to have something I can talk about. The last time I was dating, it was, I was on a Country Western Dance Team. And oh, that's interesting. Tell me about that. So the podcast was both to fill this empty space and time as I grieved my past relationship, but also to have something to talk about something interesting to talk about when people were meeting me. And it was not just interesting, like what you do a podcast. But because it's a kink podcast, it really gave me a way of making sure they knew I was into leather and kink, since you're not always meeting people at the leather bar, especially not for dating. And that's what really caused me to start this podcast, it was a combination of all of you, saying you liked my voice and would love to hear me more. And then suddenly needing something in my life, to fill, and to talk. And that's how the podcast was born. I did a little bit of research on how to put together a podcast. And to give you a sense of my production schema. I have an Audio Technica ATR 20 100x microphone, which, if you go a googling is sort of a good recommended starter mic for anyone doing a podcast very affordable, very reliable. I have a mic boom, that clamps onto my desk, as well as a windscreen and a pop filter, just you know, just to be sure. For interviews, I use squad cast, and I had tried a couple other services. But I find squad cast is the most stable. And it's all through the web. And what's nice about it is that the audio is recorded locally. So when I'm interviewing someone, I'm not recording what's coming through on my computer, they are recording locally on their computer for better quality, and then it's uploaded. And spod cast has been very handy for that. The entire production ends up going through audacity, which is free, fairly easy to learn audio editing software. So I'm using it right now to record this segment. I use it to record all of the main segments I import in the interviews, I import in the themes, I slice and dice and do some pretty basic editing. To bring it all together. I used to be a little bit more diligent about editing and taking out flubs or gaps, or I tend to do that a lot from speaking. I tried to cut those out. But what I found is that if you cut too many of those out, it ends up sounding a little flat, and fake and almost robotic. So these days, I tend to leave in more of the human imperfections. And I really just take out huge flubs, the beautiful thing with audio is you can end up if you zoom in enough. And if you're careful enough, you can edit out anything fairly seamlessly. It's really quite miraculous. Once I have everything recorded, there's a 22 step process to move from all of my recorded segments to a finished episode that includes all the editing of each segment, importing everything into a single episode, sort of, you know, taciti, adding in the theme music, exporting all that uploading it to my host, doing show notes, doing all that episode info for the host all of that 22 steps. And it's not horrendously labor intensive. It was just so complex, I had to write down each step. Plus, if you know me, I am a list maker. So besides the production tools of the microphone, and besides quad casts and Audacity, everything gets uploaded to Buzzsprout. Buzzsprout is my host Buzzsprout is the place that actually holds the mp3 or WAV file or whatever it is, and then Apple just sort of keeps an index of it and Google podcasts keeps an index have it and Spotify keeps an index of it, but they're all pulling it as far as I know. They're all pulling it off of Buzzsprout. And when you go to the show's website, full Kyle dot show that's full Cal dot show you're essentially going to Buzzsprout in addition to those three services squad cast audacity and Buzzsprout. I use otter.ai. And you may not know but there's a full transcript of every episode. An otter AI is an automatic transcription service. And it's actually fairly remarkable. I just upload the wav file, and it does some weird freaky science tech magic, and it spits out a transcript. The transcript is not 100% accurate. I've looked through it. And I've noticed some flippy flubs, but I've left them. And there are two reasons for me to do the transcript. First, it's an accessibility issue, I want to make sure that my podcast is as accessible as possible. But it also makes the podcast indexable in search engines, which makes it a little bit easier to sign. I used to also use a service called sign now to have people sign a release form when I'm doing interviews, it was all handled electronically, electronically and allowed them to sign electronically. But it's fairly expensive. And it was just easier for me to start sending a PDF of the release form and have them sign it however they want and return it to me however they want. And that's the sort of history and mechanism of this podcast. It is a movement from shame, to acceptance to pride. And it is a detailed technical process drawing on several different websites and software services. There is something new coming, something exciting. I'll talk about more later in this episode. But I do have a new service we're going to be using, which I think will add a new dimension to this podcast. But I did want to start with the story of the podcasts where it came from, and how it happens to give you a little bit of insight as to how this manifested in my world. And now, since you're listening, how it manifested in your world, as well. I thought it would be fun to share with you some of the metrics of this podcast sense through data of who you all are as listening as well as how this podcast is doing. And let me start by saying it's really hard for me to know the accuracy of this data because it tends to be dispersed across several services. So I can go to Spotify and look at how the podcast is doing there. I can look at it on Apple podcasts. I can look at it on Google podcasts. But I'm not certain that any one site code leads all that data. So primarily, I'm going to be using the data that I get from Buzzsprout, which is my podcast host. And I don't know if it's comprehensive. But I would certainly say it's indicative. So remarkably, this number surprised me. I've had 10.8 1000 downloads across all episodes in the past year. And that surprises me because when I look at individual episodes, when I look at the numbers, I just I've never felt like the numbers are good. I'm used to greater success on videos on Instagram and Twitter where I can instantly see hundreds of views 1000s of views where I'm getting comments. And there's a real sense that what I'm doing is impactful. And when I do the podcast, if I look at an individual episode, it might just have a couple 100 views. And so I've never felt like the podcasts did great. I'll talk a little bit more about that in a little bit. The top episode, according to Buzzsprout is leather with 899 downloads, followed by origins, which was episode one with 847 downloads, and then submission with 830. And I find this a little surprising that the entry point for people or the most popular episode is leather. And it was good episode. I thought it was great. And I thought there were some good discussions there. But it's not as though everyone is starting from episode one and going forward. Somehow people are jumping in on this sort of for me middle of the road episode, which is pretty interesting. I do know that most of you are listening on Spotify. And many of the rest of you are listening on Apple podcasts. Those are the top two services where I get listeners. This one I liked. My podcast has been heard on six of the seven continents. I'm only missing Antarctica so if anyone should know any research scientists down there please ask them to download at least one episode of full cow. I was really pleased by this because obviously I am recording in English obviously in general. Leather is a strongly Western qinq and tradition. And so to see people in Africa and to see people in Asia downloading episodes, really made me reflect on how this is a worldwide interest. And that it's really remarkable to think that people around the world have listened to me. That just really stuns me. The top countries, not surprisingly, are the United States and the United Kingdom. But people in a total of 83 countries have listened to this podcast, including jersey, which I didn't know as a country. I was looking through the list that when caught me, because I used to live in New Jersey here in the United States. But there is actually a principality of Jersey and at least someone in Jersey has listened to this podcast. Now, in an interesting inversion, the top city is not in the US, even though it's the top country. The top city is a London. Hello, Londoners I'm so fond of all British accents. I mean, I'm really fond of actually Irish and Scottish. But the whole range of British accents and all its variations and regional deliciousness. I'm quite fond of it. So I'm thrilled to have you from London listening. The top city after London is Chicago, hey, Chicago wins, I was actually just there for work visit, I was able to meet a couple of you. And I was really quite, quite thankful to do that. In total, this podcast has been listened to in 1424 cities 1424 cities That's remarkable. And including one listener in Provincetown, Massachusetts, you know, went through the whole list of cities that only had one listener. And some of them were really surprised. And clearly they were small towns. And I didn't want to call out any small town because if you're listening in a small town, you might be a little vulnerable. And you don't need a podcast advertising that there's someone in that small town listening to this nasty dirty podcast. But then I saw province town and I thought, That's pretty remarkable. I would think I do a little bit better in province town. So hey, my province town listener, get a friend to listen in Provincetown, so I can get at least two. All right, thank you. That is most of the data I was able to get from Buzzsprout. But I also get some interesting data from Spotify. Spotify tells me that most of y'all are either 23 to 27, or 28 to 34. And this is very, very on brand for me. I've talked about it, I have an interlude specifically about this, right? When I go to my Instagram, and I look at my audience data there, it's all 24 to 34. And in my life, I am only seem to be meeting people who are 24 to 34. I don't understand that. I don't I don't hate it. I celebrate it. But yeah, so if you're 23 to 27, or 28 to 34 You are my audience and I'm grateful for you. I think I'm particularly very grateful for that because a lot of what's motivates me to do the podcast and the videos and all of this, and I've talked about this probably more on Twitter and Instagram. You know there, there are an infinite number of ways to do leather. Some people do it in a very gentle gender fuckery way some people do it very classic. Tama Finland style, some of it have some people have more of a punk rock or heavy metal bent, some twisted with the fashion aesthetic, some like to mix things up and wear tennis shoes. And to to with a leather uniform, whatever. There are an infinite number of ways to do leather and I want to welcome them all. However, I happen to think my way of doing leather is really the best way. I'm gonna let you do leather however you want. But I'm always gonna believe the way I do it is the best way. And if I believe that if I truly believe that there's something of value in the way I approach leather and kink that I want it to live on beyond me. I'm 52 Hopefully I have many years left but I'm certainly of a different generation right my time there's there's a clock ticking on me on all of us. But more on me. Thank you. If I want leather to continue being on me, I have to teach people younger than me how to do it. And I've done that some in one on one mentoring. I've had many special young leather folk move through my life that I've had some ability to interact teach mentor, but the videos on Twitter and Instagram and the podcast has given me this way of reaching so many more people who are young, who are starting into leather and kink who have questions who need guidance. And if I can give them some model, some aspirational model and some knowledge and share my experience, then there's a much better chance that after I'm gone, the way I do leather and the things I value about it will continue beyond me. So I am so grateful for everyone in that 23 to 34 year old demographic, on Spotify, listening to my podcasts. Not surprisingly, if you're listening to my podcast, you're also probably listening to Beyonce, Lady Gaga, Rihanna, and Taylor Swift on Spotify told me that I was like, Really, this, this is surprising. Come now, come now, Spotify, that's pretty obvious. What I loved is finding out that 8% of y'all are non binary, and 3% are female, and the rest are male. And I love that because I've always tried to make my content fairly open and fairly welcoming and really allow it to have a place for anyone, regardless of gender, sex, sexual orientation, I want you to be part of this, because the bigger the community, you're really the safer we are, you know, they're coming to kill us all. I said that in the leather is drag video series. And I and it's stuck with me as I see things happening in the news. I'll repeat it. They are coming to kill us all. And so the more numbers we have, the larger the community, the more visible, the more active, the more activist, the more likely we are to live. And it is a question of whether or not we get to live. And much more a question for people who are at very contentious, intersectional identity points, like trans people of color, right? Their lives are really online, they are dying in an extraordinarily sad, shocking, alarming, disgusting rate. So that's why I want this community to be as big as possible, I wanted to have as many allegiances and alliances as possible, because they are coming to kill all queer people. So let's stand together and try to make a place that feels a little safe. Having discussed all those metrics, I will say, often when I reflect on the podcast, I am doubtful of it. When I look at these metrics, if you look at the individual performance of episodes, it is not remarkable in any way, you know, I can put a video up on Twitter or Instagram, I'm getting comments instantly. You know, it took took a year for the weather episode to get almost 900 downloads, whereas I can get eight or 900 views in less than a day on other social media platforms. So when I look at the numbers on the podcast, I always tend to think, oh, you know, this, this lot of work, and that's a lot of work. Look at those numbers. Is this the best place to put my time energy? Is this podcast worth it? However, many of you have messaged me on various social media platforms to you've reached out and you've told me how much you value the podcast how a particular episode touched you or impacted you or inspired you. And that is so deeply meaningful and gratifying. To me. It is absolutely vital. If you want to support this podcast if you want this podcast to keep going. I don't need you to donate money. There are costs or costs associated with the podcast, monthly recurring costs, but I'm in a place financially where they're not hurting me. Now, if you really want to support this podcast, find me on some various social media or email me through the full count dot show website. It's edge at full Cal dot show. I think so hold on. Let me check that. Yes, it is edge at full dial full count out show. Email me and just say great work. Appreciate your podcasts like that episode. That is the way to support this podcast because that is the stuff that tells me Yeah, it is worth the work. Even if the numbers look small. The impact is larger than the numbers suggest. And that means everything to me. So if you've done that at some point in person, through media, social media, if you reached out to me and you've said anything about this On cast, you have helped make this podcast a success. You have helped this podcast reached the end of its first season. And for that, I'm very, very, very grateful. Since this is a season finale, I thought it would make sense as well to look back on this past season, and share with you perhaps briefly some of my highs and lows. And when I look at my favorite segment out of all of the episodes are off the full episodes. My favorite segment is also sort of my most troubling segment or certainly, I felt it was my most risky segment. That was my reading of the story, you at the end of the submission episode, where I absolutely break down blubbering in tears. That felt like a real risk when I was making it to show that kind of rawness, when so much of what I do, relies upon a certain manufactured image, which isn't to say the image isn't real, but is to say that it's been curated. And it's been groomed. I hate that word. But it's true. I have groomed myself, right? I have groomed myself into a certain image. And I wasn't sure if that image were going to be was going to be consistent with the story, which was just me, me in all my rawness. I love that I did it. I love how it came out. I had a couple people reach out to me, and really connect with me over the power of that. And I've done a lot of stuff in other interviews, I've written a lot, I have stories, I have essays they've been published, blah, blah, blah, I've taught nationally blah, blah, blah. These video series in this podcast, bla bla bla bla bla, till my dying day, I suspect the most powerful thing I will have written is that story. And maybe that's because it has a deeply personal connection for me. But I also think it's because it speaks to something, a very common experience, a very common ache and longing and hunger in this community. That's part of what makes it my favorite segment. My favorite interview was with Steve in the uniforms episode. And that's simply because he is really one of my two best friends. I'm an introvert, as I discussed fairly frequently, and I don't connect with a lot of people. I don't mind that it's just is how it is. And here locally, there are a lot of people who know me that I don't necessarily know I have a lot of acquaintances. I have a few friends, but I only have two best friends. And they are the people who are within my defense perimeter. And Steve's one of them. And so it was really wonderful to do something with what he'd like to call a special friend of the program. He was really enthusiastic about the podcast from day one, and is eager to come back on and have us do a kind of we did that episode remotely. We're trying to figure out a two mic setup and all that financial investment involved with that because we would love to be in our gear smoking cigars and talking about something so perhaps that's something that will come in season two. The other reason though, I really love that interview is of all the episodes it's one where I received quite a bit of feedback about how well the topic was handled. And it is a very tricky topic. When weekly if not daily, there are further reports of police violence against men and women of color. Well, people of color excuse my gendering when there are daily, weekly reports of that uniforms are a kind of fraught issue for the community. And the fact that we did okay, on such a really horribly tricky topic was really deeply satisfying to me. And I think to Steve, have the sort of how to practical knowledge segments. My favorite is the pain processing one in the pain episode. And that's because I just believe it's really good. Like it's really useful information and it really works. That's a class that I first developed for leather works which is the local leather store here I do classes for them. But when I think back on the material in that I just feel like it's so important, in part because I find so many men who don't know And I say men, because I play with men don't need to be overly gendered there. I find so many men who are afraid of pain because they don't understand it. They don't know what to do with it, I find so many people I play with, don't know how to process it. And so yes, a pain scene is going to be difficult. Yes, there's going to be a lot of fear around that. And so, the good news is you can learn doesn't mean you're gonna love pain, but you can learn to process it in ways that are effective. And I think I did a pretty good job in that segment. Gotta say, and I had at least one or two people who were listened to the segment and then had a pain scene and found it beneficial, again, hardens my heart with hardiness of heart titude. In terms of some of the low points of this year, Part, well, it all comes down to the interviews, right? First of all, I often have technical problems with the interviews, even squad cast as imperfect, so they can't hear me, I can't hear them all. We gonna spend 10 minutes figuring that out. And then midway through the interview, my audio, I mean, my video freezes. So I can't see whether or not they're moving, but they can still see me, there's almost always a technical problem with interviews. Beyond that, the work involved in interviews is making the podcast logistically challenging, because for each topic, I have to find someone who knows a lot about that topic, or who knows a little but would bring an interesting perspective, I have to reach out to them, I have to get them to agree we have to set a date, I sent a whole info sheet of here's what to expect. Here's how to use squad cast, here's what I'm going to ask, I have to send them to release form, we get to squad cast, I have to hope that the technical problems aren't too bad that day, we do the interview, have to download or bring it into Audacity, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. In general, the interviews have been difficult, they've been difficult. And I've talked about this in some recent episodes, and there may be changes coming. That's what I'll say. We'll talk a little bit more about that. In the next segment. i But let me talk about one other high point. And that is the interludes in general. You know, here's the story, you know, I did two episodes, because all the podcast websites I read are like to drop two episodes at once to give your audience a sense of what your vibe is, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I did it with the full creaking of the landlords. And when I had a very kind test listener on Twitter, who is connected to the audio world, and he was like, you know, the creaking. It's great, but it kind of distracted me it kind of pulled me out of deep listening. So then immediately, I got rid of the creaking. But by then, you know that was like a month ahead of the next episode, right. So then that month comes in. Everyone's like, Oh, I love the creaking. And by then the creaking was already gone. The interludes were my solution to that people who want the creek can get the interlude. People who find it distracting, can get the full episode. I love the interludes because there's so much easier to do. I mean, literally, I open Audacity and I start recording and I start talking about something that's going on in my life. There is no show notes. There's no script, there's no finding interviewers, and there's very minimal editing, like I just pop the whole damn thing onto Buzzsprout. And I'm pretty much done. Of the interludes my favorite is probably chastity because that I think, in part inspired the chastity series I did on Twitter, and on Instagram, which I had lots of people come up to me and say, Wow, that was that. I'm trying chesty. Because of that, thank you for doing that. That was so helpful. And I also love to just because it was empowering for me to talk about my explorations with chastity. All in all, it's been a really remarkable year doing all of these episodes, I have had quite a bit of fun. I have had quite a bit of work put into them. And I've had quite a bit of fulfillment from all of you who've reached out to me. And this is the end of the first season and great things are coming or things at least I hope are great, and we're going to find out. I'll talk about that more in a second. Looking ahead to next season, I have several features I'm excited about and I hope you'll find them exciting as well. The one I am most excited about is a new feature that I am calling ask edge and it's basically and asked me anything sort of have moderated through the podcast, you can now send me questions about leather kink, BDSM. Or about me, my life and my experiences, asked me anything, please though keep it semi appropriate, you can either send an email to ask at full Cal dot show that ask at full cow dot show. Or you can use an exciting voicemail feature that allows you to leave a recorded question that I will then include in the episode. And if you don't want me to include it, please include that when you leave the voicemail. To use the voicemail feature, you can go to speak pipe.com/leather edge, that's lt h r, E, D, G, or simply see the link to the voicemail page on full cow dot show. It's at the end of any episode you look at. There are a number of reasons I'm excited about this. First of all, I think it's a way for me to generate more ideas for full episodes based on what people ask me. And just as importantly, it's another way for me to bring more voices into the conversation. I have said from day one on all of my social media along these lines that, you know, I'm just sharing what I know, I'm just sharing one person's experience. And that doesn't mean I have the answer. That's why I love when people leave thoughtful comments on my videos on Twitter or Instagram, because it's good to get different perspectives that are sometimes even completely contrary to what I say, because the fuller conversation allows people to learn more, and to make their own informed choices. So please consider leaving me a question or comment through email or voicemail. And hopefully, I will be able to start including those in the April episode. To do that, I need you. So please think about it. And send me something if you think of something. In general, going forward into the second season, I'm going to have to let go of the rigorous format of this podcast where it's talking about my experience, let's talk about how to and then interview. The interviews, as I've discussed at length, our logistical challenge, so they're probably going to go away. But instead there's going to be a lot more mix of kinds of segments. So there might be more meditation segments, which I haven't done yet, but I have one planned, there might be more storytimes there might be a mix of interlude style segments in the middle of a full episode, I want each episode to offer a little bit more variety for you, there will still be always a sharing of my experience about a particular topic. But I'm hoping to bring in other kinds of perspectives on that. There will also be more episodes akin to the uniform episode where I was both interviewing Steve, but he was telling us everything we needed to know about uniforms. And that's because there are topics I know this podcast has to do. But I don't know enough myself to do them. The two that jumped to mind are rubber and fisting. I have a little bit of experience with both. But I wouldn't be able to do the How to or how to get started in either of those. That means at some point, I'm gonna have to locate experts who are willing to to collaborate, or I'm both doing an interview about their journey and about their experience, but also inviting them to teach us more about that topic. That'll be a learning experience for us all. That also allows me to broaden out the scope of topics. The interludes will probably continue, I can't promise they may be mixed in to the full episodes because, frankly, I have a life it can get busy sometimes. And I've set myself fairly challenging production schedule for this podcast as a whole. As part of that the creaking of the leather the language wearing I'm not sure the future that my guess is it will certainly appear occasionally. I don't think it's good for it to be all every episode, because I've listened to some of my own episodes. And yeah, the creaking can get a little distracting. I hear it. I hear it. Some of you do as well. But I know a lot of people love it. So it's not going to go away completely. And certainly there is a version of season two where it is full episode first Friday of the month. Two weeks later, there's an interlude. I'm going to aim to keep that going. So if you're a big fan of the creaking, you just have to tune into the interludes. If you can't stand the creaking. You just have to stand in tune into the episodes. I think that plan is sustainable. I'm hoping to to continue that, the episodes will be new. Hopefully, we will have the Ask edge feature. Hopefully there will be a new mix of formats and segments, there will probably also be returned to previous topics from last year, maybe do something a little more in depth on boots, I don't know, the goal is for me to grow the podcast in interesting ways. Bring in more voices, bring in more feedback from you expand on topics and offer variety that will hopefully hold your interest. So I'm trying to keep what I think is best about the podcast, and then try some new things. Oh, I also have new artwork. I just made it myself. I'm so proud of myself. So then you'll visually be able to identify if you're in season one or season two. I also thought about getting new theme music. But I don't think that makes sense. Right? The theme music then becomes the unifying element of all the series. And then each season has its own artwork that makes sense to me. So I'm pretty excited about the year ahead, I remain committed to this podcast, because of you. Literally you I don't know who you are. I don't know where in the world you are. But obviously, you've listened this far. And that's meaningful to me, because you've taken time out of your own very busy life, to pay attention to me. And that just astounds me on some level. So, as we move into the second season, I want to reiterate how deeply grateful I am for you as a listener. I want to thank you for making this podcast possible by the simple fact that I'm not simply speaking into avoid but I am speaking to someone and someone's listening and that someone is you. So that's it for our season finale urine review, how it was how it will be episode. I am damn proud of myself for doing a whole year of this. It's been a commitment and ever grateful for all of you and helping me make that commitment. And always, always always I am hoping that your leather journey, whatever it looks like, whatever twists and turns it takes where ever you are on it. I am hoping your leather journey is truly blessed. And that's it for this episode. Thank you so much for joining me please consider subscribing or you can send feedback to edge at full cow dot show. As always, may your leather journey be blessed