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60. Unlocking Transformation From the Inside Out & The Power of EFT w/ Sophia Torrini

• Cat Mansfield • Episode 60

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Today I am joined by Sophia Torrini, a certified clinical EFT (Emotional Freedom Techniques) practitioner who shares her incredible journey from life threatening illness to complete recovery + creating a life dedicated to healing + empowering others.

Join us for a riveting conversation as we dive into exactly HOW meditation & EFT  can help release emotional blockages, transform limiting beliefs, and foster profound personal growth.

We explore the synergy between EFT + the teachings of Dr. Joe Dispenza, illustrating how integrating these practices can lead to emotional alchemy + the recognition of limiting beliefs + patterns. Learn how to alter brainwave frequencies to effectively access the subconscious, ultimately, shifting & reinventing one's state of being.

Empowerment begins with belief, and this episode invites you to explore the limitless possibilities within yourself through conscious action + self-awareness.  By harnessing your innate inner power, you can embark on a transformative journey towards a more joyful + empowered future.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to the Holistic Hotties podcast. I'm your host, Kat Mansfield. I'm a yoga and meditation teacher who's traveled around the world in search of all things healing and true. In searching for healing, in searching for truth, I uncovered the answers to all my ponderings. I grounded into peace amidst the chaos, I found myself. This podcast is about breathing life into who you already are. It's about remembering the truth of your power, the truth of your perfection. In each episode, we'll talk about the beliefs, the self-imposed limitations and the mindsets that are keeping us small, and how to cultivate safety in our bodies so that we can feel safe enough to be bigger, to take up more space and to truly and deeply love ourselves. On this journey together, day after day, we're choosing intention, we're choosing growth, we're choosing to dissolve our veils and breathe into our most authentic and thus most radiant selves. We're choosing to feel good naked let's dive in. To feel good naked, let's dive in. Welcome back to another episode of Holistic Hotties.

Speaker 1:

Today I am talking to Sophia Turini. Sophia is a certified clinical EFT practitioner whose personal battle with illness led to the discovery of the transformative power of EFT and reality hacking. Her journey from a debilitating condition to a complete health transformation inspired her to shift her career from healthcare administration to empowering others worldwide. With a unique blend of expertise in public health technology and now training in metaconsciousness, she guides individuals through releasing negative thought patterns to find clarity, calmness and joy. Her mission is to share this powerful key to self-healing, providing that within us lies the extraordinary ability to transform our lives. Sophia and I have such a great conversation. We really dive into the science behind transforming your life from the inside out, and by science I mean the specific meditations and techniques to neutralize old beliefs that are projecting from our subconscious into our reality, creating our reality. How to neutralize those beliefs and instill new, self-serving beliefs, not only in our mind, not only rewiring our mind, but in our body, in our soma really clearing old beliefs somatically and reinstilling new beliefs in our body so that we can transform our lives from the inside out. This topic, this conversation, is what really opened the door for me on my spiritual journey.

Speaker 1:

When I was struggling with my own health issues in my mid-20s. That appeared like overnight, with absolutely no prior warning, just all of a sudden. Well, I mean, there were prior warnings, but I wasn't aware of them. But what felt like all of a sudden. This is what pulled me out of the depths of victimhood and this is how I truly healed my body and transformed my mind. So I hope you enjoy this conversation. I hope it piques your curiosity to learn more, to start implementing some of these practices, some of this thinking, and transform your life. Okay, enjoy. Hello, Sophia, Welcome to the podcast. Thank you so much for being here.

Speaker 3:

Hello Catherine. Thank you for the invite and it's an honor to be here.

Speaker 1:

Yeah Well, let's just jump right in. What I would love to start with, to help clarify for myself and my audience, is if you could explain what clinical EFT is and how it differs from traditional EFT.

Speaker 3:

So clinical EFT is the EFT that has been used. The protocol has been used that been tested under clinical trials, so it's like a very more thorough modality used, and then it's the one that's been tested and researched for its effectiveness. Been tested and researched for its effectiveness Because anybody can create a tapping sentence and go ahead, though when you are trained under clinical EFT, you follow certain steps and certain protocols.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

And ensuring how to address certain things and how to handle trauma and how to go about certain things when there's resistance or or an ab reaction could be anything.

Speaker 1:

Okay, and will you explain and just talk about what EFT is, for our audience too?

Speaker 3:

Absolutely so. Eft is a energy healing modality and it's a combination between cognitive psychotherapy which is why we talk in EFT and tapping on the body's meridians in order to move energy. So what is believed is, certain emotions are not processed. We weren't able to feel the somatic sensations of those emotions to move through, and somehow they cause some sort of blockage in the body. And emotions is what holds limiting beliefs. It's not the other way around. People think that the thought comes first, and yes, people think that the thought comes first, and yes, it does come first, but what holds it in place is the emotion. So one emotion can hold many limiting beliefs, which is why we address that.

Speaker 1:

Interesting. Okay, so we are creating an affirmation or a new belief, and then we are tapping on one of the meridians so that we're moving the energy in our body.

Speaker 3:

Well, that's what people do with regular AFT we have to address first the belief that's causing the problem. So unless that's neutralized, no matter what affirmation you tap, it's gonna not going to pass through the brainstem. It's going to say yeah, I can say I'm wealthy and I'm wonderful or abundance is flowing to me, but if you have the opposite, it's not going to go through. And I think that has been the main problem with EFT that has gone along out there without addressing all aspects of the situation or clearing the trauma that's stored in the body.

Speaker 1:

Okay, yes, thank you. So it's imperative that the first step is drawing awareness to what the existing limiting belief already is before we utilize EFT.

Speaker 3:

Correct. So we have to be in neutrality before we write a new belief in. So you first have to weed the garden, or your subconscious mind in this case, which is the garden, the homes, the beliefs, before you can replace it.

Speaker 1:

Okay, cool, I love this so juicy and I want to get so much more into accessing the subconscious mind. But I'm curious first about hearing how you discovered EFT and what your journey was that led to that discovery so I had.

Speaker 3:

Well, let's start with what happened to me. So I got ill, just like everybody else working in the corporate world and being highly stressed, and the more I was trying to achieve and fix, the more I got stressed, the worse I got.

Speaker 3:

I was very lucky to have connections in the medical field, so I did get the top treatment, but it still wasn't solving the problem. So I would get, I would be dealing with the symptoms, and it was cyclical for 14 years, even a bit longer the symptoms are there, until it reached the point that, no matter what I did, the symptoms weren't going away. Wow, so I had gone to the top doctors and I did not do, thank goodness, the drastic stuff removing organs that they had recommended. So I had heard of EFT and I said you know this, this stuff doesn't work. Because my background is in epidemiology. So I literally believed medicine had the answers. And I also had read Dr Joe Dispenza and I said, oh, that doesn't work either. What do you mean? He's a chiropractor. But now I was stuck because my life was not expected to move forward, so it was going to be a slow, painful death. Wow.

Speaker 3:

So it had it been like an overnight death, I think I would have been okay, but it would have a slow demise. And at that point I went back and revisited certain stuff. So I first started with Dr Joe dispenses teachings and I'm one of his trainers. I it made sense. The problem I had is I could not embody and master my emotions, because the second step is to bring it inside the body. No matter what I did, it just was not landing, it just couldn't, and the meditations were very hard for me to do. So I revisited EFT.

Speaker 3:

I had a very good practitioner and my emotions started moving pretty fast, even though I didn't have the bodily sensations in the beginning. They were moving and I could see the patterns and I could see how they get created and I didn't know what to do. I couldn't be part of the medical model anymore. So I was kind of lost and I said, oh, I'll just become an EFT practitioner. You know who cares, but I won't use it for work because no one's going to take you seriously. It's like nothing. And then along the way, when I really fell in with the benefits and I started totally healing and getting off my meds and then literally seeing that the clients are my mirrors and I could actually help them get unstuck. That's when my desire grew bigger and I combined it by teaching also Dr Joe Dispenza's course Change your Mind, create New Results, which I teach. Now I saw where people could actually change.

Speaker 1:

Beautiful. Yeah, Joe Dispenza was actually one of the. Yeah, Joe Dispenza was actually one of the catalysts of my spiritual journey. I had seen somebody post his book Becoming Supernatural on their Instagram story and it was one of those just overwhelming knowings of my body. Like you have to read that and I had no idea why. Just a random person that I follow ordered the book and it changed my life. It changed the way that I approach meditation. Meditation was relatively new to my life at that point so it completely turned it on its head for me. But and then from there just completely shifted the way that I perceived reality, sent myself energy and the intermingling of all of it. So for my audience, would you give a brief summary, kind of, of Joe Dispenza's theory in his work?

Speaker 3:

Okay. So the main key here is, first of all, let's start with a generic concept, then I'll go. So our thoughts, emotions and deeds create the outer world. So Dr Joe starts with the premise your personality creates your personal reality. So how you think, how you act and how you feel is going to determine your personal reality called your life. So what happens is most people try to change the personal reality out there without changing themselves. And that's when the war happens and nothing's shifting.

Speaker 3:

And he takes you through the process of what do you need to overcome? And there are three concepts you need to overcome the body, which is the first. The body meaning it's emotions, it's sensation, and it is the subconscious mind, the environment, what it is that I'm seeing, believing it's out there, that's causing the problem. And time I don't have time, it's not going to work, I don't have enough time, or whatever the story is. So that's the core principle and we use meditation because we need to change our brain waves in order to enter the subconscious mind.

Speaker 3:

I think where other other modalities may not be clear or may fail is they don't address the concept of the body, which is crucial the sensation, and they're just using the mind. You can't just use the mind, you have to use your mind, your body, mind, spirit. Right, so you have, we have six subtle bodies, right. So we at least have to use your body, mind, spirit, right, so you have, we have six subtle bodies right. So we at least have to work with the first three, which is the mental, the physical and the emotional. We have to address that, and so you go from thinking to doing, into being and you actually become who you truly want to be.

Speaker 3:

So, and how do we do that? So we start now with changing our thoughts, which ultimately, when you change a new thought, you have a different thought. I should say, by getting new information, having a new thought, now you're going to have a new choice and then, when you have a new choice, you're going to take a new action and a new behavior which is going to create a new choice. You're going to take a new action and a new behavior which is going to create a new experience, and the end product of an experience is an emotion. So the job, the whole package here, is to actually change your state of being, to change your emotional state by using thought. So it starts with thought, but you end up in the emotional part, if I explained it well.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, thank you. And can you dive a little bit more into the importance of really doing this work on a subconscious level, not just staying in the conscious mind, but the importance of really changing our brainwave frequency so that we can create lasting change?

Speaker 3:

So we use first of all, as I said, knowledge is the precursor to experience. So we educate ourselves, and then we use meditation to change our brainwaves. But we plan ahead of meditation to know what beliefs we want to remove. And so we can do two types of meditation. We can do just regular meditations and then, when you're trying to imagining something, your limiting beliefs will show up. So that's you.

Speaker 3:

We usually start, the average person starts with that and and as they evolve, then we use specific meditations to actually change those beliefs you've identified. So, like you already now know, I believe I'm not good enough, I can't do this and it will never happen. I'm just coming with three beliefs, but we don't address just the beliefs, we address the emotions that go with it, because, I told you, emotions it's what holds the beliefs. So we address the emotions and we have to observe how we're acting. So we go back to the three things how you think, act and feel. And so when you create a new you, now you know what to clear how we think, act and feel. And so when you create a new you, now you know what to clear how we think, act and feel. And how would the new you think, act and feel.

Speaker 1:

So you weed out this by creating more self awareness and practicing and meditation, and now you plan ahead of time and you emotionalize the new state of being in the now, always in the now, because creation happens in the now brain wave state, which we do by just becoming present, by focusing on, anchoring in our breath for a minute or so. However, you drop into your body and then either we're coming with an old belief or we're kind of seeing what bubbles up, what belief bubbles up, and then feeling that emotion in our body, so really alchemizing, feeling that emotion from the limiting belief, and then once we feel like we've felt it, we've done that, it's been alchemized or it's being felt. Then we access our new belief in the corresponding high frequency emotion. Right, we cultivate that high frequency emotion gratitude, joy, bliss and we pair that emotion with the new belief and we sit there in the now until our whole body believes that new belief and that new emotion, with every single cell. Is that right?

Speaker 3:

Right. Once you've advanced, you actually write ahead of time. So you don't do it in meditation because you're trying to be in stillness in meditation. So once you've got a little experience ahead of your meditation, you write down what's your three limiting beliefs, head of your meditation. You write down what's your three limiting beliefs and what's in you. So the second part you actually did absolutely 100% correct. The first part you observe yourself. It's better to observe yourself what you're doing so you catch yourself during the day. So you don't do it Because it's going to be very hard for you to keep your brain waves in a good state when you're feeling that negative emotion.

Speaker 3:

If it does arise for a second, you could feel it. That's where EFT comes. So you clear a lot of the limiting beliefs, often before, like I'll tap before, or maybe the person has had a session the night before, and then they say, okay, these are my. I've cleared a lot of the emotions, but the pattern is still running In meditation. This is what I'm going to clear and I'm going to observe myself when it could possibly come up. You know you're going to get a difficult phone call and your default is, when the person attacks you on this phone call, you attack back. So in that meditative state you've already pre-planned it and you visualize yourself. Okay, I'm not going to attack. This is the new state I want to be and I'm going to get past it. So we try in the meditative state to keep our brainwaves low. And the meditation? If you've read his books, they usually start with sensing the field and I think it was left for me. I think I'm not sure if he worked at Princeton, who did he discovered? By sensing space, your brainwaves drop.

Speaker 1:

Hmm, okay, beautiful, and will you describe for somebody, because this is, you know, auditory only, where EFT, where we can do tapping and kind of what it looks like.

Speaker 3:

Oh, absolutely. So the side of the hand. We call it the karate chop point Because I guess that's how I used to break stuff. So we tap here. We usually tap three times here because it changes the polarity in the body. So we start with the situation. So, even though I am angry, so let me start ahead. So we, how do we tap?

Speaker 3:

The proper protocol for tapping is what is the emotion and where do I feel it in the body and what is the event? So the actual moment that that emotion arose in that event, right, so? So let's say you attacked me. So, even though I have anger in my stomach because Catherine attacked me, I find it so unfair. And now we put a positive or a balancing affirmation at the end. Why do we do that? Because we want to neutralize it. And why did I start with, even though? Because we don't want to accept it in our reality, we just want to address and move through the emotion. So, even though I'm so angry and I feel it in my stomach and I don't believe it's fair, and here's the event Catherine attacked me I acknowledge this is what I'm feeling and I'm open to finding a place of peace. Everybody says I love and accept myself. A lot of people are not at that state to love and accept themselves. They could be traumatized or it could be a horrible situation. You can't love and accept yourself. You can say it all you want. It's not going to pass your brainstem. So I'm open to transmuting this event. I'm open to allowing to feel the situation. So that is what gives the room, and then we tap and then we continue.

Speaker 3:

Now the rest of the parts would be the top of the head, the side of the eyes, between the eyebrows, under the eyes, under the nose, under the chin, chin, here on the thymus gland some people call it the collarbone under the arms and under the breast. And then I use the wrist because these are tons of meridians. Coming back to the body, so I do the inside of the wrist and the outside of the wrist. Okay, we have more body parts if needed, like some people would sometimes do the hips, if it involves other lifetimes, and I could do sometimes the ears, because there's a lot of meridians. But these are the ones that I covered, would cover the majority of the body that you need and then you would move forward of the body that you need and then you would move forward and you stay in each location just for a little bit by putting I think, what I, I, what I do, and I see more effectiveness.

Speaker 3:

So, first of all, I always and I know you, you know it because what you do you always want to breathe in your lower pelvis. Why do we want to breathe there? Because those first three energy centers hold all those emotions. So you don't want to breathe here and be disassociated. You don't want to breathe till your chest, you want to breathe all the way, as much as you can right, because a lot of people can't.

Speaker 3:

So to bring awareness. And then you put your awareness and observe the sensation in the body without forcing it to leave, by allowing it to be there, if that makes sense. That's how we transmute it. So the sentences by themselves may calm you, because after you're tapping for a while, but to do it properly and to want it to move, it requires your cooperation. So, connecting with the body and engaging with a sentence, like in the beginning, if it was angry I had a lot of anger, which is why I brought that up I would feel and my voice would, even though I'm so angry, there's nothing wrong with raising your voice and you know good AFD practitioner wouldn't have a problem with that Because now you're verbalizing and letting it go out by using your vocal voice and feeling it and allowing it to raise because you weren't able to handle the situation at the moment. So that energy got stuck. So what we want to do is allow it to move by expressing ourselves, without going back and finding the person and attacking them, because that's not going to help us.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and well, just to clarify, are we moving through all each tapping point, like through each practice, each EFT practice? We're moving through all of those points that you mentioned. Okay, beautiful, and I'm curious with your clients and I think it's important to talk about, I guess, kind of the consistency that it requires and the time to start seeing change. I know it varies per person and quantum leaping is an option because time is it's all now. But I think when we start these practices, especially if somebody is trying them with maybe a little bit of a, you know they're trying it but they still don't really they don't know, they don't know if they believe that it works, what do you see with clients when?

Speaker 3:

like they start to have a breakthrough. Okay, so the majority of clients usually, within the first session, feel better I didn't say solve their problem, feel better. So they notice a change and I think if they stay with that versus expecting the result, they will move through. It's when you constantly are expecting why it's not solved that you're going to get stuck, and that's the only reason why I stayed with it. I would get these bursts of energy and these moments of happiness. They wouldn't last very long, but I didn't have them before. I never had them before.

Speaker 3:

So I knew and I was getting what we call a cognitive shift, a reframing of the experience and realizing it actually didn't happen that way, or it was my perception of it, that I thought it happened that way, and I can be very analytical and very stubborn, so for me it took longer. But when I look now back, I see, no matter how I do it, it doesn't matter if it. Yes, I would have liked it to have taken shorter, but I'm in a much better place that for that trajectory. If I had not started EFT, there's not a way I could have realized what this universe is all about. Mmm, beautiful and yeah, and I don't fall into the trap of the outside world and the fear mongering. I actually don't watch the news anymore.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't, I don't either.

Speaker 3:

I don't even want to know, and there was an interesting thing that happened. It affected New York and some other places. People lost their internet, including New York, and I did not lose it. Now that's called a hologram within the hologram, because I was disconnected from the outside world and I wasn't following. Everybody else had an interruption, I did not.

Speaker 1:

Interesting.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's a hologram. You create your own hologram within the existing collective hologram.

Speaker 1:

Can you tell us, or tell me a little bit more about that or how what that means?

Speaker 3:

Yeah. So while we cannot change the outer world, you can change your experience, and if you're not engaging in it, you might have moments of seeing certain things, but what's happening? You'll see what's happening out there, but it's not going to affect you and happen to you. And the way we do that is by not engaging in it. So the moment you engage and make a judgment this is right or wrong, or wanting to change it Now you're in the collective hologram because you're not liking what you're seeing and you're wanting it to change. So your job is not to change out, there is decide what you want to feel.

Speaker 1:

So is it? It's like you're not liking what you see or wanting to change it, and by doing so, by having that engagement with it, you're like what's the word? Um supporting? Yeah you're supporting, you're supporting its existence. So you're saying that exists, versus if you're not engaging from it in the way for example, you didn't even know that the internet was out because you're not watching the news or whatever then because you haven't reinforced its existence by acknowledging it, it doesn't affect you.

Speaker 3:

That's correct, and I've had interesting.

Speaker 1:

That's like some matrix stuff.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I've had the same experience when I was traveling from Mexico. So all the airlines were canceling their flights and I said to the people I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear it Because I had heard it. I had to tap and clear my fears now and when I get to the airport, the gate agent told me all the flights are getting canceled today. And I still refuse to hear it. I did have a lot of fear. To make a long story short, my flight left. Wow. So I haven't been always successful. It's usually I'm more successful when I don't know at all. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

So in this case it was took a challenge but I still made it. Okay, I have this not to engage. So, yeah, it's great there's people call it different things, but the concept is you create a smaller hologram within the existing because, well, the universe is a holographic projection.

Speaker 1:

Okay, you know, I've had this theory that I just kind of intuitively downloaded a few years ago and I shared it with my brother, actually, and some friends, and everybody always um laughs. But this is kind of what it is and I'm going to share it with you quickly. My theory is that it's about the weather and because we have, like, the weather app that tells us what the weather is going to be for 10 days in a row, and so all of humanity is looking at the weather and reinforcing that it's going to be cloudy tomorrow, it's going to be raining tomorrow. That is why it's cloudy and rainy. If we didn't have the weather app and you know, people weren't, I guess, engaging with the existence of rain tomorrow, then who knows?

Speaker 3:

Well, I do that for the weather. So my next door neighbor likes to like to watch the weather and I literally don't. We kind of argue I don don't want to know, so I don't fully change the weather, but I do go biking every day. So when it's raining and it says it's going to thunderstorm, somehow miraculously I get an hour that it doesn't thunderstorm yeah so, yes, well, actually that's how reality gets created.

Speaker 3:

So they want you to engage to what's in the outer world. So the moment you place a judgment, you're part of it, and I don't want to talk about elections, but let's bring just the concept, because that's not a topic I'd like to discuss. I'd like to discuss totally. So you want to change in the outer world and have something better to come for politics. You can't engage in the duality game. This one's better than that. So you have to pull back and start focusing.

Speaker 3:

It's not going to happen right away, but it is very possible that it could happen. What is it that you really want? Because the moment you engage with either candidate and first of all, if you're seeing two candidates and they're being allowed and it's been going on for a long time that means the system is allowing it. So probably both choices are not a good choice. So you want to pull back and decide what it is that I really want and not engage in it at all. And if several people do that, you're going to get a brand new person showing up for it. Okay, that requires a little more work, but that's what actually would happen. Something fresh would come in and it would be completely different Interesting. So we don't want to engage Right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think that's just an interesting concept for all of us to noodle on. Essentially is questioning to what degree we are enforcing reality by playing into even the reactions to it or the judgments of it, wanting to change it. How much are we enforcing that it exists and it can come full circle back to ourselves? Right, because how much are we enforcing that a sickness exists within us? To what degree are we reinforcing that reality every single day when we wake up?

Speaker 3:

that's a lot of Joe Dispenza as well, if I'm not mistaken so what Dr Joe is saying is your personality is creating your outer world, your personal reality, right? So when it's based on you, think, act and feel. If, if you were not, if you were 100% pure inside of you, unconditional love, 24, seven, every single day, within a matter of a week or two you would not be seeing the same world that you're seeing out there, right? So we collectively have created this outer world where it's fight, they're fighting, and that's why we have to, because the game is duality. So you want to pull back and and what are you experiencing?

Speaker 3:

Your experience, including myself, it's not just you is the projection from your mind, the matrix is your mind projecting a movie. Because where's the universe? It's inside of you. People think that the world is out there. It's actually inside of your head. It appears that we're walking, it appears that we're doing certain stuff, but you are the universe and the ascension is happening inside your body, moving up the energy centers. That's what the ascension is. You're moving up at Jacob's ladder and what's the 33 years of Christ? Right? The 33 vertebrae at the back of your spine.

Speaker 1:

That's interesting, beautiful spine, that's interesting, beautiful. And I think where this conversation differs from a lot of the other, I guess transformation rhetoric, like we've said, it's getting into the subconscious to really create that change, but it's not bypassing the current reality. So if we are in a place where we're consistently engaging with our reality or with our perception of self as we are in this moment, if we are there, it's not about spiritual bypassing and saying that this doesn't exist I don't do this anymore and strong-arming ourselves past it. It's really about and especially as we're talking with EFT, it's really about well feeling, acknowledging and then neutralizing and then start encompassing and compassionate formula versus the bypassing that I think a lot of spirituality and even people who are engaged in personal development kind of subscribe to, just like the affirmations and the sticky notes on the mirror and bubble baths, is self-love and those things are great, they're part of the formula, but they're not going to do it.

Speaker 3:

So I'd like to address that and it happens to all of us and it happened to me. So once you realize your negative thoughts are creating stuff and your emotions in the beginning, you become very fearful. It's part of the normal. Unfortunately, the community has said just change your vibration. Well, you can't, and I'll explain on the second step why you can't just do it like that.

Speaker 3:

So what people do is they see the negative thought, but the energy, that sensation in the body has arisen and they immediately blocked it. Okay, so energy can never be created or destroyed, it can only be transmuted. So, pretty much, you shoved it back in your subconscious mind and it's beeping like a Wi Fi signal when you're not aware of it. Because why traumatic memories are not timestamped properly? So the emotions and the image? Because there's an image that creates, you know, our subconscious mind records everything. And traumatic memories are stored as high resolution and they're often not time stopped, stamped properly, which is why every time there's a trigger, it's playing at the background and you're not aware why you're getting this anxious feeling. So it's playing and it's working. And I'll give you another analogy.

Speaker 3:

We all have cell phones, so I tend, you know, I restart my phone but then, before I know it, the battery has drained. When I look at it, I have like 20 apps that were in the background running. Well, the same thing with your traumatic memories. My phone dies out in no time because I had all the apps running. The same thing is happening with you. All those traumatic, unprocessed memories are running in the background Until you shut them off by releasing the emotion, you're not going to get proper sleep and you're going to be always activated and triggered, which is why a lot of people wake up exhausted in the morning, even though they slept eight hours. That's number one. So we want to clear that.

Speaker 3:

And those traumatic memories do not work. They are actually working on beta brainwaves, which is not the process that you change. So when spiritual people say you just change the vibration, well, that's running. You have two conflicting beliefs. I am abundant, yet I lost all the money from my business. When the conscious and subconscious mind are in conflict, the subconscious is always the vector, not a chance in the middle. Now the person starts beating themselves up how come I didn't change? It's not working. Well, it's not working because you didn't get to feel it.

Speaker 3:

So let's address the feeling part. So, including myself, emotions used to linger, and now we do have research and we know emotions only last 90 seconds. So each emotion is only 90 seconds. Why do they linger? Because I ruminate and now I create a story on top of it, versus connecting with the body, feeling that sensation, which always in the beginning, and it still happens to me that when it first comes up, I think it's going to take me over and I'm going to die. Five minutes later it's already gone, but the first minute I literally thought I was going to die. It's just.

Speaker 3:

It happens all the time, and especially with the emotion of grief, because grief is a very powerful emotion and I went through it. I thought it was never going to end. I thought literally. And then when it shows up again, that doesn't show up as often, but the grief still comes out in layers. The moment it shows up. It'll never go away and it's going to be the whole day and it only takes a few minutes. So clearing that emotion is going to give you room, because you've transmuted that energy. I don't know if you know the maps of consciousness from Dr David Hawkins, so you go to a higher vibration by transmuting it and I can address that later on. What it is Now. You have liberated energy to create your vision and you have the positive energy, so your affirmation can can stick and reprogram. You didn't have it before.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, I love that initial visual of the Wi-Fi signal because, you know, same with actual Wi-Fi, it's like you can't see it, but yet we all are using our computers, we're all connected to Wi-Fi, and so it's the same as for these traumatic events big T, little t, trauma Anytime we felt abandoned, anytime we felt shame, embarrassed, especially, you know, in the ages of zero to seven. Those are just, so you can field of Wi-Fi signals that when a certain trigger that has this same vibration or frequency hits that Wi-Fi signal, then it's triggered and it's just like this one Wi-Fi signal in the field of many other Wi-Fi signals that we can't see. And it's such a great visual because, well, first of all, it gives us a little bit of compassion for ourselves to understand that those signals are planted there from, you know, young ages Again, zero to seven is when a lot of that is rooting in our body. And it's just, you know, like you mentioned earlier, that we didn't have the tools and we weren't capable of processing that emotion at the time. So it gives us compassion, which is really important in this formula as well. And I also love, as you're talking about first feeling, that emotion.

Speaker 1:

This still happens to me when I'm sitting down to meditate and there's a negative thought or negative emotion to meditate, and there's a negative thought or negative emotion and I can see the mind respond with oh no, that can't, we can't have that, and you just push it down. And so it's been a huge part of my practice to simply notice that. Oh no, you can't feel that, and then go from there and really hold space for the magnitude of the emotion. And I'm curious if you have some practices for people to start somatically moving these emotions, because I also think there's a emphasis on the mind, and that was I've come to this in my practice as well, where I'm doing a lot of meditating and I'm, you know, rewiring a lot of old beliefs, but I'm not putting as much focus on somatically moving the energy in my body. And so you know I have a few practices I can share, but I'm wondering, with your clients, any other practices that you use? Of course, eft, but what else do you see?

Speaker 3:

So I do the silent tapping often. So I've often used breath work. I'm not consistent with breath work. I think in the beginning I needed more to talk, to talk it out.

Speaker 3:

So I either used talking it out or silent tapping. But what I try to do when I do, I allow the emotion, I don't loop, I stay a little bit with a sensation, to the best of my ability, right. So I think, for people who can't do that and I want to stress it again, even if they don't know how to do the sentences, as long as they're tapping and they put the awareness and breathing into it, breathing where the sensation is, by observing it, not wanting it to leave, I think the key is observation and allowing it to move, they will get a benefit. Allowing it to move, they will get a benefit. Then, after they do that, what I do so you asked me that's one of them so I've done breath work. I've done what they call somatic release, which is kind of similar, again observing it and allowing, with no tapping, just allowing again the energy to leave by breathing into it.

Speaker 3:

So all of the practices have some sort of a breathing. Now, if you add tapping, it makes it faster to leave. I think what the research has indicated is tapping moves things a little faster Because it's imagine I'd like to give analogies. So let's say you have a rock that you want to break right, so you're going to take a hammer and you're going to break it. So imagine that this energy has become density in your body and so your awareness is a bit of the laser beam, but your hand, also with the laser beam, is the hammer, and that's why it moves faster. That's my personal analogy.

Speaker 1:

The tapping is the hammer. You're saying yeah, Okay, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Research indicates that somehow the tapping on the meridians moves it, but this is the best analogy. It's my personal story, so I don't want people to say this is what it is, but that's what I feel and I often feel heat when the energy moves and I know that is old density in my body. The same way if I was breaking a stone after five minutes and I finally broke it, that heat gets released.

Speaker 1:

Hmm, yeah, that's beautiful and it's great for people to be able to know, as they experiment with tapping, that there will be a release or, you know, a aftermath to the dissolution of these dense emotions that have been in our body for some of us, decades.

Speaker 3:

That's correct. And then I do exactly what you do. I do meditation and mental rehearsal by trying to put myself in that state. Right, so you want to be in the state, you want in the now, and we now can use consciously affirmations now and we now can use consciously affirmations or we could do visualizations or imaginative acts to reinforce the beliefs. But I want to emphasize the concept of action.

Speaker 3:

So a lot of people and it's very common in EFT and that's, I think, the most resistance I get from clients that they think the confidence is going to come just by visualizing. I wish that was the case, but from the model I described before you may you have a different thought, you make a different choice. You there's an action and behavior. That's the third step, and action or a behavior has to take place. So what happens is you do five actions that are positive nature. That's going to give the feedback loop and now you become the new person. Or let's say it was confidence. So people want to skip that part and they think it should show up. With skipping that part, no, you can't, because again the glue is the emotion and I want to say you won't get. Why do the three parts? Because we're using three parts of the brain. We're using the neocortex, we're using the limbic brain and the cerebellum.

Speaker 1:

In order for something to materialize and become permanent in our world, we have to engage all three parts of the brain, not one part of the brain, yeah, and I think, even if you want to take a step back from the I guess, scientific nature of how we're transforming the mind from the, our lives from the inside out here, even if you just think about you know, you decide that you want to change a part of your life. You decide you want to be more confident, and of course, the universe is going to give you opportunities to reinforce that. It's not going to be like you wake up one day and you're just confident. It's not really how it works. It has to be a consistent effort. It's like going to the gym.

Speaker 1:

You don't just lift weights once and then see muscle definition. It's a muscle memory that develops, and so, same for any of the beliefs that we're trying to rewrite. We'll be given opportunities in our lives to choose something else, and so bringing that awareness to you know, these situations that used to trigger us, and then you have this little moment of pattern disrupt and you're like, okay, here's where I used to feel insecure, and you know, walk away without saying anything. This is actually an opportunity for me to go up to the barista and say something and feel confident while I'm doing it, and it's going to feel scary as hell to do that. But that's a part of the rewiring. It's that pattern disrupt and it's that, it's that action that creates the new reality.

Speaker 3:

That's correct. The Course in Miracles calls it choose again and, if I recall well because I haven't finished the whole thing you get to choose, choose against and you get them at random.

Speaker 3:

So you are confronted with two experiences, often similar to your past experiences, and you have to choose differently. Now I want to make a key point. So a lot of people may not react to the experience. Let's say it was not about attacking the other person or talking back to the other person. So they did part of the choose again correctly. But if they're ruminating in their head, I can't believe he did it. I can't believe he did it.

Speaker 3:

Your choose again is wrong. So it's both part. You need to choose differently and you need to leave with neutrality. You cannot be affected and you cannot ruminate in your brain. That is when the choose again is done correctly, because people will say to me well, I didn't say anything back. And well, what were you thinking in the brain? Well, nothing. And then when they're talking to me, I could see they're angry. Well, apparently the choose again did not work because it's still affecting you. So it's only when you've had the two choose agains and Bashar talks about it too. He uses a different word, but it's the same thing it's only after you've had the choose agains that now you have the new opportunity and the higher experience.

Speaker 1:

Yes, and I also think it's important for anybody who is, you know, in the personal development space, who's using this, this work and listening to conversation, to approach the choose agains, approach these points of intersection with a little bit of playfulness as well, approach this whole process with a little bit of playfulness, because I've noticed it in my own journey, where you can start to get a little bit too regimented with like I did it right or I did it wrong, I passed or I failed, and it can become, you know, almost its own source of anxiety and its own source of fear to think about okay, I'm not doing it right, I made a mistake, something bad's going to happen or it's not going to create the manifestation, as opposed to, really, when you're at those points of intersections, at those choose agains, even if you, you know, say something, something different, but you ruminate, you're ruminating, just having that awareness of like, okay, well, I did, I did what I can do right now and I am still ruminating, but the next time I'm going to do a one percent more in the direction of you know where I'm moving towards and just giving yourself that, you know, forgiveness in the moment, because you'll have, you know, there are infinite choose-agains that will be presented to you.

Speaker 1:

If you don't completely succeed, quote-unquote, at this intersection point, there will be another one tomorrow or the next day or this evening. You know they will keep presenting and you'll keep be given the opportunity to transform.

Speaker 3:

That's correct. You hit that on the nail. You couldn't have said that better.

Speaker 1:

Thank you. Well, I've really, really enjoyed this conversation. I think my audience is going to have so much to take away from this, and I'm wondering if there's one final insight or piece of advice that you would love to leave the listeners with.

Speaker 3:

So, no matter where you're at, there's always a change for the better and you can create something new. And if the person is struggling with a condition, what I want to stress is, first of all, they can heal, because no one does the healing for you. You do it, your own body does it for you, but they're not actually healing the current body they have. They're moving to a parallel timeline where the body is healed, where the body is healed. That, I think, is important for people to know, because if they feel they don't have any energy for this body, they get discouraged. They don't know how to get out of it. So you're not changing and that applies for other stuff.

Speaker 3:

So you're not changing this reality. You're not engaging in this reality. You're not engaging with the illness. This reality, you're not engaging in this reality. You're not engaging with the illness. You are shifting to a parallel one Because your vibration or your frequency has changed.

Speaker 3:

Therefore, in a matter of time, it's going to be reflected. So, no matter where you are, no matter how traumatized you are, you don't have to stay stuck. And if you tackle both the mind and the body, so using the somatic whatever somatic, if you don't want EFT, perhaps it's breath, work or some sort of somatic experience and you tackle the mind and take action. It's a guarantee you're going to get there, but you can't just use one, because you do have a body. But regardless, you're going to get there. And the key here is you can transmute, transform and have the joy you've been looking for and you can actually create what you truly desire and feel the joy you wanted to feel can actually create what you truly desire and feel, the joy you wanted to feel yeah, that's so energizing to let that sink into your body.

Speaker 1:

The empowering nature of you can transform. You do have the choice to switch timelines, really to exist in a parallel timeline, to exist in a parallel timeline, and I just wanted to expand on that. One more question for somebody who's struggling with, you know, illness would the foundational belief that maybe they start with addressing, would it be you know whether or not they truly believe that it's possible to heal?

Speaker 3:

I would tackle a few. So the first one is do I believe in the medical model? They have to believe because maybe the medical model, like in my case, said I can't heal All right, so that belief has to go. Then the beliefs and the guilt. There's usually guilt behind the illness, so the guilt would have to be resolved and sometimes, if the condition is chronic, they may be not always a secondary gain, so that would have to be addressed. So the bigger first one I would address is believing that you can heal. And if the label that was given to you is supposedly a non healable condition, that label needs to go, because disease is a lowering of frequency. It's not a label and the condition is not in the body, it's in the field. So a lot of people go and focus on the body, removing stuff from the body. The condition is not inside the body.

Speaker 1:

The condition is being projected from the mind and if somebody's struggling with an illness, also, I think hearing that it's a lowering of frequency, diseases, you know really removing the shame from that. I think there's a lot of shame when people find out that they're sick and they, you know, don't even want to share with people and they think it's something that they've done wrong and and and hearing you know it's a, it's a manifestation of a lower, lowering of frequency. It's nothing that you've done. It's nothing that you've done. It's nothing that you've brought upon yourself. It's, or I guess, that you brought upon yourself intentionally and it's it's not nothing to be ashamed of.

Speaker 1:

It's like what we talked about earlier. It says why the wi-fi field signal that's been operating in our subconscious that you had no idea was there. So it's it, um, something to internalize is shameful and I just think that's important to to touch on, because I experienced that in my own um health journey, at times of feeling embarrassed or feeling like people you know would think that I'm lesser because I'm experienced. I was experiencing some, some health complications and um, you know, if any, as we've talked about in this conversation, that that will do nothing except for make the, I guess, engage with the reality more, make it, make it more poet make it worse.

Speaker 3:

So no one wants to be sick. I want to quickly give two interesting examples because I think it might help the audience. So I had a woman with Tourette's. I don't know if your audience knows Tourette's. It's uncontrollable jerking movements and sometimes they could start cursing. The person doesn't want to do it. They feel completely embarrassed. So this person came to me and I asked her when it started. She told me the age of four. I knew for some reason it wasn't the age of four. So I do something that's called re-imprinting your birth, it's called matrix re-imprinting. So as we went through her birth first, we cleared everything. So as we went through the birth process, so we were in I think it was the second trimester and we were working on her being the fetus. In the second trimester the Tourette's got out of control. So I asked her what she was experiencing. So she felt her mother, who was pregnant, to her being slammed on the crib bar. Wow. So here's a woman carrying something for I don't know how many years and it's not even hers. Whoa.

Speaker 3:

Once we cleared so, which explained all the anger she had, and especially towards her father. Wow. And the mother is constantly transmitting and the mother was powerless. She's pregnant, she's getting slammed like this, she's getting jerked in the fetus, which is why this woman was constantly having these jerky movements out of control. Wow.

Speaker 3:

So take forever. It took six or seven set long sessions, but six or seven sessions and there was almost gone. I don't know if she followed up afterwards because you need to do some practice, but it was cleared. You know, there was definitely diminished. So here's an unfortunate situation where she had nothing to do with the condition it started for because she had so many triggers at four and now she couldn't process.

Speaker 3:

Now the other one was not my case, but it's a very common um, if someone, someone else treated her, it was his daughter. So the daughter had Crohn's disease. This was a physician and I think he's a physician, he's a doctor and he's in this similar line of work. And his daughter at 16 would not heal, had multiple dissections of the intestine and he was perplexed because she grew in a very, very loving environment. Would not heal, had multiple dissections of the intestine and he was perplexed because she grew in a very, very loving environment. So after inquiring and inquiring, the daughter was molested when she was young and she didn't bring it up. Once they addressed the molestation, she's completely healed. Wow.

Speaker 3:

And she went back to the doctor. They couldn't even find signs that she ever even had it. So that's the interesting part, because the pattern was removed. So it's very important to address the pattern. And so people who have cancer remove the breast and they call it metastasis. When it goes to another organ it's not metastasis, it moves to another organ because the tissue has been removed so it can't show up there again. So it's going to find the closest organ to come back, because you didn't deal with the original issue so the condition was never healed. When the person keeps on having metastasis, yeah, well.

Speaker 3:

You have one personal one. I had a personal friend. She was about to lose her vision. So vision is about not wanting to see or too painful to see. So each organ has a story. So it was too painful for her to witness what she experienced, and when we did that, her vision stabilized. Wow.

Speaker 1:

Wow, well, yeah, I think those are really helpful accounts for people to walk away with. So thank you so much for your time, sophia. How can people stay in touch with you? How can people work with you?

Speaker 3:

So I'd be happy to help anybody who needs some help. They can come to my website, get a half hour free consultation. I also offer a masterclass, a preview of Change your Mind, create New Results, this interactive course that Dr Joe Dispenza has created, and I have tons of information free on the website. I'd be happy to help. And I think you know they could start with the free stuff and then they don't have to pay and see how it works. And I think you know they could start with the free stuff and they don't have to pay and see how it works. And I think, in combination of EFT and the teachings of Dr Dispenza, is really going to get them with what they want in their life.

Speaker 3:

And it's about investing in yourself and you will have a better future, feeling joy and and not this powerlessness that we've been, my goodness, brainwashed with for centuries. So, yes, a better future awaits for the ones who are willing to be open. To try it without disbelief is the best way to say, yeah, yeah, beautiful.

Speaker 1:

Well, thank you so much for your time, sophia. It was a really wonderful conversation. I hope you enjoyed this conversation. Tapping into the subconscious and transforming your life from the inside out is, you know, what really got me into spirituality in the first place. It's what opened the door to meditation for me, and it's always something that just gets me so excited to talk about. I feel like I'm just over and over again reminded about the principles of the subconscious and meditation and just how truly empowered we are as spiritual beings, as light beings, and so I'd love for you to leave a review if you enjoyed this episode, or subscribe to the podcast so that you don't ever miss a new episode, and I will be back next week with another conversation.