Wild Souls

91. The Two Gaps Keeping You Stuck (Even If You’re “Doing the Work”) w/ Dr. Kelly Waggoner

Cat Mansfield Episode 91

So many of us understand our patterns, yet nothing changes. In this powerful episode, clinical psychologist and integrative wellness expert Dr. Kelly Waggoner maps the two core gaps in modern healing:

  • Somatic gap: how to regulate your nervous system (and although it might not sound sexy, it’s the bedrock of real change), expand your window of tolerance, and reshape the “container” so insight doesn’t leak out.
  • Spiritual gap: how to reconnect with your soul-self without outsourcing your authority and dissolve the illusion of separation so life feels alive again.

We cover: breath as the most portable tool, micro check-ins, the STOP practice, hyper vs. hypo states, people-pleasing (“fawn”) as a survival strategy, and why peak experiences—psychedelic or otherwise—only transform us when we integrate them into daily life.

You’ll learn

  • Early signs of dysregulation—and how to course-correct fast
  • Practical ways to rebuild discernment so decisions come from presence
  • A simple path to weave mind, body, and spirit into everyday healing

Guest
Dr. Kelly Waggoner is a clinical psychologist, integrative wellness expert, and co-founder of Wellspring 88. She created The Tools workshop series, co-leads The Path of Mastery, and is a respected voice in psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy through the Wellspring 88 Nonprofit Foundation.

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