Triumph Over Trauma!
Triumph Over Trauma!
What If Telling The Truth Is The First Act Of Healing
We explore what it means to heal out loud after childhood incest trauma, how faith shapes the journey, and why “no” and boundaries protect peace. Nay shares practical tools for release, from prayer and journaling to choosing safe spaces, and we reflect on turning pain into purpose.
• naming childhood trauma and ending silence
• healing out loud with intention and care
• rejecting people pleasing and saying no
• setting boundaries around unsafe family spaces
• coping tools including prayer and journaling
• faith, testimony and purpose-led advocacy
• support beyond family and finding community
• starting steps for survivors to release and rebuild
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Okay, let me pull up one of my recording apps really quick. How are you today? I'm good. How are you? I'm doing good. Thank you so much for agreeing to meet with me and record. Of course. I'm gonna try not to call from still recovering.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:So when I tell you John, the devil was deviling, because this thickness came out of nowhere. But God be the Lord, I'm feeling much better than it was. Yes. Amen. And so um just to give you a heads up, you know, we're gonna go, it's gonna be a question and answer format, like we talked about. Yeah, we'll go over a few questions. And then sometimes when we're in the midst of conversation, other questions come up. And so, you know, typically it takes between, I want to say maybe 30, 45 minutes, maybe at the max, depending on you know what we cover and everything. Um, I forgot that one of the questions that I one question that I didn't ask or that I didn't give you was um, what things are you healing from? Are you comfortable with talking about things like that? Sure, yes. I just wanted to make sure. So that's gonna be our first question, and then we'll go into the best, okay? Um, I'll introduce you, um, and then at the end, excuse me, at the end, you'll tell us where we can find you, you know, how we can read you if someone's interested in your content or even communicating, contacting you, you'll tell us that information. Excuse me. Um trying to make sure to cover everything. Um typically it takes me a few days to edit. So hopefully, by before this time next week, I'll give you the full episode, all the links, all the um audio and visual. So if you want to share, you know, edit yourself, you can do that as well. Okay. Okay. What's your name? How what how do you want me to address you?
SPEAKER_00:I'm Janae.
SPEAKER_01:Nay, it's fine. Okay, I just wanted to make sure. Okay, we're going to start recording one second. Okay. Hey guys, welcome back to Triumph Over Trauma. Today we have a special guest, Nay, with us, and we're gonna be talking about healing today. I came across some of Nay's content on TikTok, and she was talking about healing and healing out loud, and it definitely intrigued me as someone who is also on a healing journey as well, healing from things in my past, um, you learn learning new coping mechanisms and learning how to even maintain that healing. And so again, when I saw Nay's content, I was like, oh, I gotta get her on the show because you know, it really spoke to me. And I think it really is what's needed. You know, a lot of people are hurting, um, especially in such a crucial time in our world, in our society, a lot of people are dealing with different things, sometimes past traumas or just even, you know, the things that we go through on an everyday basis. And I'm learning that in order to grow and to develop healing is necessary. And so we're gonna speak uh with the expert, if you will, on the topic. And she's gonna share with us a few things. I'm happy to have her on the show. Welcome to the show, Nate. How are you? Thank you. Um, I'm good. How are you? I'm doing well also, doing well also. Glad to have you here. Like I mentioned before. We're gonna jump right in because we've got a lot of cover, a lot of questions to cover. Now, um, I know again, like you said, you were talking about healing and what it looks like for you, what it means for you, and just your whole journey and process. Tell us first, what are some of the things that you feel you're healing from in this season of your life?
SPEAKER_00:I'm healing from uh childhood trauma, um, incest abuse. I've been healing from that for some years now, and I have a lot of healing to do, but I am thankful that I'm where I'm at right now.
SPEAKER_01:Amen. Amen. Well, you said a lot. You said you're healing from childhood trauma, you're healing from incest and abuse. And there's so many people in our world, in our society, in our families, even within our close-neck communities, who have experienced similar traumas and they're not talking about it. They don't know how to manage it, how to deal with it. So the fact that you share in such detail on your platforms your story and how you're healing is amazing. So I want to give kudos to you. You're certainly welcome. Certainly welcome. Okay, no, I again I looked at your video and I was all up and down your page, and I was like, this is so interesting because sometimes when you are going through healing, especially like you know, like you said, from childhood trauma or things that you've gone through in the past, people kind of have a tendency to be like, oh, you should be over that by now. Like, girl, that was a long time ago. Like, first of all, I'm just now coming to the realization that there was trauma. And then I'm realizing that this trauma had an effect on me. And then I'm realizing I can't even, I can't necessarily exact revenge. I have to heal, I have to forgive, then I have to let go. So it is, it is a lot. What does healing look like for you? And today, how would you say you have changed as a result of your healing process?
SPEAKER_00:Healing looks for me, it looks like um healing out loud, um, being authentic with myself and with the people that watch me. And the process is hard because sometimes I just like want to just go on my show and not say anything, but I know that my voice matters and I'm using my voice to help the voiceless. So it's like I have to do it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's amazing. I love what you said. I'm using my voice to help the voiceless. That's amazing, first of all. The courage that it takes to speak out, the courage that it takes to confront. Um, nobody talks about that. Nobody talks about the fact that when you have someone who is telling their story, especially stories that are deeply hidden in pain, it's it's like this is almost like surgical. You things have to come up, have to come out. They're being excavated from your heart, from your soul, from your mind. It's really, really a deep work. It's a lot. It is, isn't it? Now, when you think about healing out loud, right? What does that mean? And why do you think it's important to heal out loud?
SPEAKER_00:It's important because I was silenced for a long time because of my own insecurities, me having shame, guilt, and like how everyone just welt with it, but they didn't like talk about it. So I was I suppressed a lot of my memories, a lot of my trauma and my feelings about it. So when I started speaking out, it it not only helped me, but it helped other people. Like I felt like, okay, I'm just gonna do this to help other people because I don't want nobody to feel like how I felt. And then it starts to be like, you know, I'm healing too. I'm helping myself at the same time. So it's amazing feeling, but it's also still scary at the same time.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I can imagine it is very scary, especially because um sometimes there's a lot of shame is associated with what we've experienced, especially even though it's um a lot of times no fault to our own, there's still some shame associated with it. Um, there's grief associated with it. Um, and then there's such a stigma around certain traumas, especially when it comes to abuse, right? Um and then um according to your story, there were some incest involved. And so that means that you may have to expose family members, right? Who were not yet ready to, first of all, either acknowledge, you know, make their part in it or their fault or wrongdoing. And so that is a lot to heal out loud, to confront, to expose. Um, and I think a lot of times people think when you're sharing stories of your magnitude, especially if you've experienced trauma at the hands of another person, uh people think that you are that you are healing out loud so that you can make the other person look bad, right? Yes, right? Or that you can, you know, blame them or have an excuse for you know what you may be experiencing or going through. Right.
SPEAKER_00:And I feel like I'm sorry.
unknown:No, okay, go ahead.
SPEAKER_00:I feel like in my situation, I um when I first made my first video, people were so like, I'm so proud of you, congratulations, all that stuff. But I don't think they knew that I was gonna start my own movement of uplifting other people and uplifting myself. So I feel like they wanted me to be quiet about the situation. Yes, my um, my uncle went to prison for what he did, but then as an excuse, the the trauma that he caused me and the fact that nobody wanted to speak about it, and I didn't I didn't know how to heal from it until I was in my early 20s. So they still feel like I'm just gonna, in my opinion, they feel like um by me speaking about it, that I am like unhealed, uh, I need to go to see therapy, they think all of these things, and it comes up because it's like, oh, you gotta let that go. Let go and let God. I am letting go and letting God, but I'm also sharing my part and my story because I know that it's helping myself it, but it's also helping somebody else. Right, right.
SPEAKER_01:That's interesting what you said, that some people have this have this misunderstanding that if you're talking about it, that means you're not healed or that means you're not over it. And first of all, that burns my it burns me up because first of all, the Bible itself says that we overcome by the blood of the Lamb and the word of our own testimony. That means talking about what we've been through and how God has brought us through it. So I have to give voice to what happened because how else will I tell you that God delivered me? How else would I tell you that he healed my broken heart? How else would I tell you that his peace is what regulated my emotions? Like I have to speak on it, right? I have to say what happened. And I remember when I first started the podcast and I first started sharing on social media, and like you said, there would be family members who were like, Well, you know, you know, just be careful what you're saying, you know, because you know, you nobody is the judge, and you know, only God can judge, and that's true. And I had to say, I had to come to terms with my healing journey is unique to me. And what it takes for me to heal may not necessarily be how somebody else chooses to heal. There are some people who have gone through certain things, and they may never tell another living soul. They may go to a great country, that may be just between them and Jesus. And I do feel like healing looks different for everybody, for every you know, every individual, but I don't feel like that anyone should be silenced into um submission because of what you think, what you think um the outcome or the negative set you know, outcome could be based on me telling my story, right? Um and I think that sometimes when people don't know how to handle your story, or when people don't know um what this could possibly mean for them, they don't want to deal with it. And so like don't bring too much light to it, you know, don't speak on this, you know. Right. Um I grew up in one of those households that kind of subscribe to that model. What happens in this house stays in this house. Yes. Unfortunately, what happens in the house stays in the house, but it stays in the psyche, it stays in the heart, stays in your behavior patterns, how you think and feel about yourself. And people often negate that, you know. Yeah, so by you speaking out, by you telling your story, like you said, you're not only helping yourself, but you're helping others who may never get a chance to say what they've been through, who may never feel like they are able to say, you know, to speak in it. And so I just want to encourage you to take this moment, even in the midst of the podcast, to say, keep doing what you're doing. Um, first of all, because it encouraged me as someone who has already begun their healing journey to continue to do that, right? Because sometimes you feel like you're in loan in your own healing journey. Ain't nobody else talking about this. This is crazy. Um, but you just never know. You just never know who is going to first of all come account come across your content and then who you're gonna help. And even if that's look, even if it's just one person, that means I think what I'm supposed to do. Yeah, amen. Amen. So now what in what ways do you think you've grown or become more of yourself as you as a result of this this healing journey that you've begun?
SPEAKER_00:I am more I'm able to speak now. Like I feel like I was quiet, I was a people pleaser, and I did I let everything go. Like I just like suppressed a lot of stuff and I held on to it. And I held on to this people pleasing for so long. And now that I am not people pleasing anymore, I'm able to just say no, set boundaries, stand on them. I'm still working on that, but I'm starting to stand on my boundaries and speak up for myself.
SPEAKER_01:Wow, I love that. You said first of all, I'm able to say no. I love the word no, you know why? Because it's a complete sentence. Yes. I think when you say yes, nobody asks you for an explanation. Oh, what are you saying? But immediately, as soon as you say no, well, how come you had did this before? You had it was all right. Everybody wants an explanation as to why you said no, but nobody, nobody cares when you say yes. Um so I love the fact that you said it first of all, it starts with you saying no, and then you said you're setting boundaries. What are some of the boundaries that you've had to set since you've begun this journey?
SPEAKER_00:So, like, I used to want to be around my family, but my family still deals with my uncle. And I used to suppress myself to being around him just to be around family, and now it's like, no, I'm not going to the family function where I know that he's going to be at. So I'll just set it out. And I don't have to deal with that, and I'm fine with just being, if I have to be by myself, I am okay with that.
SPEAKER_01:Now, when you experience the trauma that you've experienced as a result of the incest and those that incident, I don't know if it was incidents or incident that happened, um, and your uncle had to go to prison. How did the family react to that? Were they supportive? Were they upset with you?
SPEAKER_00:I can't even explain it because a lot of like I don't remember a lot of it because I was so young. Okay. But at the same time, I just felt like certain family members treated me differently. And I just I remember those feelings still. Like I remember how like people barely wanted to speak to me, or they probably just dealt with me because of my mother. And it was just like, now I don't want to be around, of course, those ones because I remember how you treated me, I remember how you made me feel, and I'm about to deal with you. So I feel like some people just like fake supported, maybe, or they just dealt with it, you know. Like, oh, um I don't know, but I just feel like it shows now because of how they're so when he first was released from prison, how he got of prison and everyone was so around him and all that stuff.
SPEAKER_01:So I just feel like it was prison specifically what for what happened between what he did to you.
SPEAKER_00:Yes. Wow. So as soon as he got out, it was family just being around him and being around family. It was just like nothing ever happened. So it was just it was weird.
SPEAKER_01:And did people expect for you to also be a part of the celebratory committee when he was released? Did they expect your presence?
SPEAKER_00:I think so. I really think they did expect me just like, oh, he did his time, so that's probably nobody ever like voiced it to me, but I feel like their actions they wanted me to do. Yes.
SPEAKER_01:Wow, wow. And how old were you when these uh things happened?
SPEAKER_00:Um, it happened when I was, I can't remember, I think it was eight or nine when it happened. And when he was released, it was I was like maybe uh I want to say in my early twenties, maybe 2021 or 22. Yeah, wow. So he was in there for a long time.
SPEAKER_01:He was in there for a while. Okay. Yeah, yeah, wow. Did he ever deny what happened? Or how did it come about that he was reported? And how did that happen? If you don't mind talking about it.
SPEAKER_00:So um it was crazy. I remember I still remember that night, like it was nothing. It was how it happened. It it happened, and I was not in my room. Right. When mom came back, and so when I wasn't in my room, she like I it she was gone. I think she had left out. So when she was coming back in the house, I was going back to my room and she was like, What are you doing? Like, what's wrong? Right. And immediately she knew that something was wrong and checked me and went to the hospital. And from that moment, he was arrested.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. Wow, I want to say, first of all, I want to commend your mother because there are so many children who have experienced what you've experienced, what I've experienced, who report, who tell, um, and they are either punished or silenced. Um, or in in some cases, it happens repeatedly because nothing is done. Right. So I want to commend your mother for first of all acknowledging that something was off with her child, something, you know, needed attention for taking you to the hospital, and also for, you know, what happened as a result, which meant he had to be um incarcerated. I want to commend your mother for that because I share a similar, similar story of multiple incidents where um sexual abuse happened to me as well. And when it was reported, I was actually punished for it, for what was considered lying. Um, and it wasn't until years, until I was in my adult life that the truth really came out and was accepted. So, although, yeah, although I know that that does not necessarily lessen the pain or the effects of that trauma, I'm so appreciative of the fact that there were necessary steps that had that was taken by your mother to remedy it. Because people don't understand that when you don't react, when you don't assist, when you don't come to your child's aid, that even makes it worse. That makes it worse worse. Yes, um wow. Now, how do you believe others, whether it be your family, your friends, how do you think they view you now as a result of this new journey? Are they like, you acting funny? You're brand new now, like, or are they supportive? Do you find how do you find that people's reactions to you are?
SPEAKER_00:I feel like it's a few of my family members that support me. Um, even for silently, like watch me silently and maybe sharing some of my posts. But um, I have my I became the people on social media have become more like my biggest supporters, my big like my family because of how they support me. And it's all because of me being too loud has made my family probably not want to deal with me, and that's okay.
SPEAKER_01:That's okay, that's absolutely okay. Um, I'm reminded of the scripture in the Bible, and I always rely on the Bible because, first of all, it's what's getting me through, honey. But I'm reminded of the scripture in the Bible where Jesus says that a prophet is without honor in his own town. Now, he was specifically talking about his inability uh to perform miracles because of their unbelief, and because also because the people in that town felt like, oh, we know him, that's Joseph's son, like they just a carpenter. I think it is so um astounding to me that even when it comes to trauma and to us speaking about it, to us talking about it, sometimes it's the people who know you that will support you the least. Yeah. Um, like you said, you have people on social media who may not ever get a chance to meet you in person, who may be miles away from you, who will encourage you, um, you know, based on what you're saying and based on what you're doing. So it's not always going to be those who you expect to be in your corner. And I think that that is another component to healing, is accepting the fact that there may be some people who turn on you when you decide to heal from whatever you're healing from, whether it's trauma, whether it's, you know, a relationship or whatever it is that you're going through, you could be going through something medically um health-wise and be on just be on a new healing journey. And they're like, Oh, I can't get with that, you know. Right. So I think it's important to understand that although you there may be people who you expect to be there that aren't, there are going to be people who you may not expect to be there who will be.
SPEAKER_03:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, yeah, yeah. What would you say to somebody who's looking to begin healing from trauma and who's looking to, they want to get it all out, they want to talk about it, they don't know where to start, they just want to heal. They're tired of hurting and you know, going through in their mind and in their soul, and they just don't know what to do. What would you say to them? And how would you encourage them to start their healing journey?
SPEAKER_00:You just have to do it. You just you have to start from somewhere, even if you're starting by just journaling everything down, and then even if you don't post it on social media, but you just get in front of your camera or just um record it on your phone and just speak it. Releasing is so important. Like, I love releasing, even even if I'm not making a video, because sometimes like everything isn't for social media, so it's right. If I just put it in my journal, I know that it's safe and I know that I'm releasing.
SPEAKER_02:That's the big thing.
SPEAKER_00:Absolutely, absolutely.
SPEAKER_01:I think one of the things that you said was really important. You said everything is not for social media, and we know that we live in an age where you know, we're gonna run a TikTok, we're gonna run an Instagram, you know, we can pretty much find everything we want to understand, everything we want to learn about on the social media platforms. And although there are some things that you can't share, there are some things that you just have to take to God in prayer or to you know to your therapist, or like you said, process within yourself. There are some things that are for the greater good of you, your communities, and other people who have gone through things where you will need to speak on, where you will need to care. So I think it's um it's good that you have that balance. It's good that you know, okay, this one I gotta yeah, I gotta keep this one to myself for a little bit. And I love that you said that sometimes you just record it, you just speak it out, you just release it by talking about it, by letting it out of your heart. You know what I mean? Giving voice to the fact of I really did go through this, right? This really did happen. Um, I think that's amazing, right? I think that first of all, being able to speak when when you were at one point not able to, yes, that shows growth. That shows growth and that shows freedom. Yes. Um, to me, that's what freedom looks like. It's being different than I was before. Before I couldn't say nothing, right? Before I couldn't even think about it. I I didn't even have the ability to even write it down. But now I'm able to voice it. And even if the first person I voice it to is to myself, right? Yes. Because what I learned is I am my own audience, right? Sometimes we we want other people to kind of validate what we've been through and affirm us. And I think that's just a part of the human experience. We all need love, we all need affirmation, we all need validation. Um, but I think it's also important to understand that even if no one else agrees with what you feel and what you think and what you've experienced, you can be in agreement and understanding within yourself, like I did experience this and this did affect me, and I accept myself and I accept my own story, right? I accept what I've been through and how it has affected me. How do you, how important do you think it is for you to come to terms with it personally before publicly?
SPEAKER_00:It's very important to come to terms with it because if you're if before you even say it to anyone else or be public about it, you have to just be okay with what has happened to you and not let anything or any once weigh you away from your truth. Because sometimes people will get in our heads and say things to us and then be like, well, yeah, maybe it wasn't that bad, or maybe it wasn't this, and then that just weighs you away from your truth and your story. You have to just be okay with it completely.
SPEAKER_01:Absolutely. I agree. What are some of the coping mechanisms that you learn to um help you along your healing journey? Because I know that there are certain triggers, I know that you have good days and bad days, I know that um, you know, there's a lot that entails within the healing journey, and sometimes people overlook it. People think because I saw you smiling yesterday that you're okay today. So answer me that. What do you think about that?
SPEAKER_00:I first of all, I just like to first just sit with it. Whatever I'm feeling at the moment, I like to sit with it, and then I like to just pray. I like to just talk to God about it because like it's a sense of comforting, like it's so comforting just to talk to God about whatever I'm dealing with that day and journaling or just talking to my boyfriend about it. Like, that's what I like to do the most. And then sometimes make a little post just to get it out there, but it's just me, like that one-on-one with God is so important.
SPEAKER_01:Let me tell you, baby, you ain't never lied because there's sometimes when I'm carrying it, seems like the weight of the world on my shoulders, and I'm trying to just make it home, make it back to that home within myself and within the Lord. And I get in my little prayer closet and I'm just like, God, and I release it, and like you said, I'm just talking to him and I'm just spending time with him, and you can literally feel the relief, you can feel the peace, you can feel that comfort. Um it's it is indescribable almost. One of the things that I have experienced as a result of the trauma I went through. Um, my trauma spanned what seemed like over almost a lifetime, like almost 20 years of physical, mental, verbal, sexual abuse. And I didn't know that I was carrying the trauma into my adult life. Those are the effects of the effects of the trauma into my adult life. But I was struggling very much so mentally. It affected me so much mentally. And I would have these periods of dissociation. One of the things I was diagnosed with was post-traumatic stress disorder, and one of the symptoms is dissociation. And I would have these periods where I would be gone. Like I was physically here, but mentally and emotionally, I was checked out, you know? Um, and I couldn't get, I just feel like I couldn't get a grip. I couldn't be at home with myself. I could I it was too much, it was too much for me to be in reality. And so my mind. Just created an escape and we were there. But I remember when I started to go to the Lord in prayer about what I was going through mentally. And I remember feeling home. I remember remember feeling one and whole. And I I couldn't describe where I had been previously, but I knew I was back. But I knew I was back. And there has been no other, I mean, nothing I've tried. I've been medicated. I've gone to therapy, and then I still have a therapist. But nothing has been as powerful, as progressive, as life-changing as the presence of God. Nothing. Nothing. Um, when I can't get it out, when I can't find the words, and my tears, you know, speak for me. Yes. I still, I still, I'm still relieved. I'm still consoled. I'm comforted. And so when I hear you say that talking to God is one of the strategies that you use to deal with the trauma that you've been through, I can wholeheartedly concur because I'm just sometimes I want to tell, I want to ask people like, like, okay, if you've been through so many trauma, do you realize how effective prayer is? I'm not just talking about God bless this and God bless that. And that has this time and place, but I'm talking about God helped my heart, God helped my mind. Like I feel like we're losing it. Like, I'm talking about real, authentic, raw prayer. And sometimes, you know, when we're coming to God and we've had been taught to suppress certain things, we feel like we gotta have everything all polished up for God. Yeah. We feel like we gotta say it in a certain way. Cha, I'll be in there ugly crying. Yes, me too. A hot mess. But I love that I can go to him like that. I love that I don't have to put it on and I don't, even though I have that tendency to feel like I need to, I I love that he's he lets me rest.
SPEAKER_03:Yes. I love if I rest.
SPEAKER_01:I love that he lets he accepts me as I am and he knows where I've been. And when I come back from a period of discreet, when I come back from where I was like, wait a minute, what was that doing? Distracted or whatever, he still what was me with open zone with open arms. Yes. Oh my god. It's such an amazing feeling. So it's such an amazing feeling. It's no, it's nothing like it. I mean, it's it's really nothing like it. Um and so prayer has certainly been one of the tools that I use and been using and endeavoring to keep using to go from this. Because it's always going to be something that you discover. You might get over one thing and then you realize, like, oh, okay, and then I have to go with it, you know. So it is a journey. It's not overnight. Um, it's not linear, you know. It's not, you know, you wanna have some ups, you're gonna have some downs, you know. Yes, it it it is it is certainly um a challenge. How do you think your faith has has guided you and shaped your healing journey? Where have you seen God's hand in your healing process?
SPEAKER_00:The the whole thing, the whole thing. Like, when I first um I was asking God for my purpose. Like, I was in church and he just told me, like, I could hear him say, like, you know, go to like make a YouTube channel and share your story. And I was scared. Right. I was so scared, and I didn't do it for like a few months until I got that push to just do it, and I started, and he's been in it every step of the way, even when I feel like I'm falling off and I'm not doing as I'm supposed to, as an advocating and and and healing, he's just in it the whole entire time.
SPEAKER_01:Wow, that's amazing. I love that you said when I got the push. God knows how to encourage us, he knows how um to lead us and to guide us into what we're supposed to be doing.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Especially when it's for his glory. Excuse me. He knows how to get us to a place where we will say, you know what, God, I have nothing to lose, but every day to everything to gain by being obedient to you. Um that's an amazing thing. Uh, I can certainly identify with a little bit of procrastination myself. Because when I was God first told me, you know, to start talking about it, I was like, You want me to say what? Like, I want to tell you I ain't told not a soul. And you want me to tell the whole world? Like, you want me to put that on social media? And obviously, like you said, there's some things that you know we haven't told that, but there's some things that we're still working on, and maybe one day the Lord will bless me to be able to, you know, put it in a book because I do believe that even though right now I'm you know, again, still healing in certain areas, I do believe that you have to speak to it. You have to speak to it, even you know, no matter how you know deep or dark it seems, I think you have to speak to it in order because there's somebody else who's who's gone through that, and they need to know that they're not alone. They need to know that what they experience, um, it, you know, although they have experienced that, there's somebody else who's gone through the same thing, whose life God has touched, whose life God has healed and has changed as a result. Um I'm reminded of that scripture that says all things work together for the good of those who love God and are called according to his purpose. And it's it's only God can turn pain into purpose.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, only God can do that.
SPEAKER_01:Like only God can take what was what the enemy meant for evil. Yes, for you good, yes, because baby, what I've been through, it literally should have destroyed me. And I feel like in certain areas it was destructive, right? But the Bible says that there is no weapon that's formed against us that will be able to prosper. Doesn't mean the weapon won't be formed, right? He's gonna try it. Look, he's gonna try. He's gonna try, he stays on his job. Um but we can overcome with God, and we can overcome with by telling our stories and navigating for others and showing up, you know, in the call and the purpose that God has created for us.
SPEAKER_03:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:Wow, I'm so amazed. You um shared a lot of intimate, you know, details about your life and about some of the things that you've gone through. And I know that we could probably be here all day talking about, you know, child, what happened and things like that. I just I want to thank you because I know that it takes a level of strength and vulnerability to talk about what you talked about today. Um especially when it comes to sharing it on not only on social media, but on the podcast and on things where you know, you never know who's gonna hear, who's gonna listen. Um what I love about what I sense from you is that you're not here to necessarily bash anybody, you're not here to make anybody look bad, but it really is about about your evolvement. It's really is about you. It's really about your story and how you've overcame because there's so many people who have gone through what you've gone through and didn't make it, right? They ended up, you know, you know, you we hear it in church all the time, you know, people went through what you went through and they went crazy. People went through what you went through and they, you know, battle with addiction. People went through what they went through and they, you know, had felt marriages and relationships and just different negative outcomes as a result um of what they've gone through. Um, but you are a living testimony, a work yet in progress, but a living testimony as to what God can do with when you surrender your pain, when you surrender your hearts and all the things that you have experienced. A literally a living testimony to God be the glory. Yes, amen. Thank you. You're very welcome, you're very welcome. Now, um, I know that there may be like, girl, I want to hear more about her story because I don't know what happened, and how come this uncle got released? And what's going on here? You know, people might, you know, you know they might want to know. So you got to tell us where we can reach you. And if somebody says, Listen, I want you to tell me more, or I want to share with you what I've experienced, and I want you to tell me how we are able to heal and to confront the things we've gone through. Because I do want to say this there's somebody who went through exactly what you went through, whose uncle, brother, cousin, stranger didn't go to jail, right? Yeah, and they didn't necessarily have any type of any sense of justice, right? I mean, and and and even though you know this person was incarcerated, that does not lessen the pain, that does not lessen the effects that it has had on you. Um, but we do understand that there's some people who did not even experience that. Right. But if someone wants to get in touch with you and talk to you, reach out to you, and just be able to identify with you, where can they reach you?
SPEAKER_00:Um, Facebook, YouTube, um, Instagram, and um TikTok, which I just changed my name. Well, I changed my name. I made a new TikTok for just like Nay Hills, Nay. And then everything else is nearlifting others. I'm sorry, what's the other one? Nay thing others? Yes, near lifting others, yes.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, awesome, awesome. Nay, it's been a pleasure. You're such a beautiful, beautiful soul. I feel like the peace radiates from you, the joy radiates from that's how you know healing is really in process. Because sometimes you can be healing, you could be, you know, you could be bitter like this, and you know, just all out of pocket. But I I just feel a sense of peace, you know, from you. And I I'm just so grateful and thankful again for your time and for you sharing what you share. Keep doing what you're doing, and I'll I'm gonna continue your healing journey. And maybe one day we can collaborate. Maybe we'll do it live together or something like that, and we can, you know, talk about what we've been through and try to help others because this is a movement that definitely needs to continue. Um so many people, um young people, you know, middle-aged people, adult people. There are people in their, I want to say this there are people who are in their senior ages, right? And who have carried trauma all their lives.
SPEAKER_03:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:One of the things that I found out is that unhealed trauma can affect you post 50 years past the event. Yes. So let's say you went through something at 10 and you're now 60 years old, still dealing with the effects of it. If it was unhealed, it can affect you for up to 50 years post the event. And that's why you have people who literally go to the grave with such pain and such bitterness and such heartbreak because they've never had a chance and the opportunity to heal. So you pay it away for somebody. You're welcome. You're welcome. Any last words, any advice, anything you'd like to share?
SPEAKER_00:Yes, this to be true to you. Releasing is powerful, healing is powerful, and it's no such thing as being weak as you're healing. And healing is a journey, and it's gonna be a roller coaster, but it's worth it. What makes it worth it in the end? Uh to be fully you, to be able to just live and be free and to thrive.
SPEAKER_01:Wow, amazing. I love that. Because you could be living and not like you could be existing and not necessarily living, and like you said, it's not even thriving. So that makes a difference. That definitely makes a difference. Nate, thank you again so much. I really appreciate you. I hope you have a wonderful day. Thank you so much for your time.
SPEAKER_00:Thank you. Have a good one.
unknown:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:All right. Oh, don't hang up yet. Okay, okay. Yeah, I just wanted to end it out. Okay, you did amazing. Oh my goodness. Excuse me. I'm going to try to edit out those coughs because I'm like, now my now my throat wanna be coughing. It takes me a couple of minutes. Thank you, thank you. I'm I'm calling but you're really getting there. It takes a few days for me to edit because I have to edit from two platforms, but as soon as I edit, I'll send you this this um visual and I'll send you the audio from the podcast, and it'll be like hearable links. And you can make like make little clips on TikTok with it, you know. Um I do that as well. I don't know. Sometimes okay. I think it I believe it captured the whole um visual on here. Sometimes it doesn't, but I'll send you the whole thing and you can you do what you need to do with it, okay? So give me a few days, if not by the end of this week, definitely be beginning of next week, okay? Okay. All right. Thank you so much. I appreciate you. Have a wonderful week. You too. Thank you so much. You're welcome. Bye bye.