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משה רביב: גולדה מאיר, כשאושפזה בחשאי, הורתה לעוזריה לומר לה אם ייפגע כושרה השכלי
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השגריר בדימוס משה רביב הוא מאחרוני משרד החוץ במהדורתו המקורית, מתקופת משה שרת עד להדחתו בידי בן גוריון ב-1956. מעטים כרביב נותרו לספר על שירות החוץ - המטה בירושלים והנציגויות בעולם - בגילגוליו משרת לגולדה מאיר, ממנה לאבא אבן והלאה ליגאל אלון, משה דיין, יצחק שמיר ושמעון פרס.
רביב הגיע למשרד החוץ כנער עובד, מתלמד, לפני גיוסו לגולני. מקומו במשרד נשמר לו והוא טיפס בו מהארכיון לתפקיד זוטר בשגרירות לונדון ומשם ללשכתה של גולדה מאיר, כעוזר למזכיר המדיני שמחה דיניץ. כשגולדה פרשה - ושובה לזירה, מה עוד כראש הממשלה, לא נחשב לתרחיש סביר - התמנה רביב למזכירו המדיני של אבן.
בשיחה עם אמיר אורן ב״אפרכסת״ מספר רביב על יצרים ותככים, נאמנויות ויריבויות בשירות החוץ. הוא מגלה שבאחד מאישפוזיה החשאיים של גולדה בבית החולים ביילינסון - שמונה שנים או יותר לפני מלחמת יום הכיפורים - הובהלו אליה שלושה מעוזריה, והוא ביניהם. היא הזדקפה במיטתה וציוותה עליהם להתייצב מולה ולומר לה את האמת המרה, אם יתברר להם שהמחלה פגמה בכושרה השכלי.
גולדה, אומר רביב, היתה דעתנית ופסקנית. אילו נענתה ב-1971 ליוזמת ההסדר החלקי בתעלת סואץ, היה אסון מלחמת יום הכיפורים נחסך מישראל. אבן, קובע רביב, היה שר החוץ הטוב ביותר
עוד מתאר רביב את עבודת השגרירות בוושינגטון בעת כהונתו שם כיועץ מדיני, תחת השגריר רבין ויורשו דיניץ. רבין, שדיווח במישרין לגולדה ועקף את אבן, שיתף את שליחי משרד החוץ במשימת טוויית הקשרים עם גורמי המימשל, הקונגרס, התקשורת והיהדות, אך נפגע כשסגנו, הציר שלמה ארגוב, קיים ערוץ אישי עם שר הבטחון דיין.
תיאורים מאלפים מספק רביב על חוויותיו כשגריר בפיליפינים ובבריטניה. בין השאר הוא מדבר על המלכה אליזבת השנייה ובנה צ׳רלס, שייצג את הממלכה בהלוויית רבין; ועל התגובה החריפה נגד המוסד, כשתקלה רשלנית חשפה דרכונים בריטיים בשימוש המודיעין הישראלי. שלוחת המוסד גורשה מלונדון, עד יעבור הרבה זעם, זמן רב.
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SPEAKER_01Ma Keshelahem Le Israel Aitumer Pocher Ayuk Sharim Tovim, Advara Bolet Ahuvi Aya Bismanra Zahrabin Major Ehlit Lotzi Matos Malhutti Lalvaya Mcharles Beloshabishlachad. Asbi Amartilo Nahno Mod Marihimiza, Yeshlirak Bakashaya Hadelecha asoma in Bakesh Shaba Mishlachatazoti Kalga Maravarashi, the Dut Britannia, Harab Zaks. Dan, Vikhaya. And we shakik be advocate not true. I was story to Hashovah.
SPEAKER_00At Kama Betam Luhada and Hashovla Britim was not democratic.
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