סער צור: כשהרצי הלוי רצה שאפנה את הפיקוד על גיס ואפרוש ומצה״ל, הגבתי בהצעה שיממש בהתפטרותו את אחריותו כרמטכ״ל לכשלון הצבא

זה פחות משנתיים אלוף סער צור מוסיף לדרגתו את הסיומת (מיל.), בהשלמה עם סוף שירות הקבע שלו אם גם ללא חמדה. הוא פרש מתפקידו הכפול האחרון, מפקד הגיס הצפוני ומערך התמרון היבשתי, בטריקת דלת שצילצלה באזני הרמטכ״ל שסירב לשדרג אותו לתפקיד נוסף של אלוף או לכפות על אלוף פיקוד הצפון אורי גורדין לשלב את הגיס של צור במערכה בלבנון.

״שאני אלך? שאתה תלך!״ מתורגמת ללשון העם תגובת צור להרצי הלוי. דבר הרמטכ״ל נעשה, אך כחצי שנה אחר כך נדחק גם הוא להתפטר; סוג של על דאטפת אטפוך.

מחלוקת עקרונית, תככים בצמרת או גל הדף של 7 באוקטובר? בשיחה עם אמיר אורן ב״אפרכסת״ משאיר צור את התשובה לשומעיו. נוח לו יותר לדון בסוגיות מקצועיות של מקום הגיס ומפקדו בין אלוף הפיקוד למפקדי האוגדות, הרכב צוות הקרב החטיבתי, התיאום המשופר בין חיל האוויר (במיוחד מאז מפקדו לשעבר עמיקם נורקין) לכוחות היבשה ומיצוי הטכנולוגיה במרחב הקרב הבין-חילי והבין-זרועי.

צור היה ראש לשכתו של גבי אשכנזי בפיקוד הצפון לפני רבע מאה וקצין האג״ם של יאיר גולן באוגדת איו״ש בהמשך אותו עשור. שניהם בעיניו מפקדים מעולים ומרשימים. אף שאינו מתייחס במונחים דומים לאביב כוכבי, שקידם אותו לאלוף, ברור מהערכת צור לרעיונות המזוהים עם כוכבי (כגון היחידה הרב-ממדית) שכוכבי היה רמטכ״ל לרוחו - בודאי יותר מיורשו הלוי.

במלחמת רוסיה-אוקראינה רואה צור את בשורת עתיד שילובם של רובוטים, תמהיל אדם-מכונה ובינה מלאכותית, כך שמוטב לעבור לאיגודי כוחות קטנים יותר ולהפחתת הסיכון לחיילים. זה אינו סותר, בעיניו, את מרכזיות חיל השריון, שהוא עומד בראש העמותה (״יד לשריון״, בלטרון) המשמרת את מורשת קרבותיו והנצחת נופליו.



אולפן: אמנון האס
עריכה: יעל בדרשי

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:33

The Bemeta Afta Kadasha Khipsug Varake Khadis Rishana Lachlifeta Joshevroshodem Udishani Vetamankal Vemarti Le Kazemakom shekulano Gaddalno Lav if Sharagidlo.

SPEAKER_02 0:52

As Laura Gadalta Lav, Tadesh Kalani as Gdud Chivim Vesheva, do Eg Ms. Ms. Dudea Shiron, or Sefer La Shiron, U Mistayem Khativarba Mutvachad Chaita Mefakda.

SPEAKER_01 1:16

I made a Mstakell the Tov, the Shlosheta Gdudim Shel Khativarba Mutvehad.

SPEAKER_02 1:26

As Echata La Shiron Mikola Khilota F Sharim, Saperal Yal Dut, Narut.

SPEAKER_01 1:33

I mech Anitami Yel Khelavir, Abasiaya Hamesh Strashana Khavir, we am and Ramadavitzatam Shelkulanu. And Loratiza Chumda Varakir Hot Mikostais, we met the cool stais, if the speaker of graf.

SPEAKER_02 3:07

As much a taisvahovlim Mashachot Halashivona, or Gamashu Akerisham.

SPEAKER_01 3:13

Maybe me od Shiluva Damekhona, I am American T men and men teaming shah.

SPEAKER_02 3:54

Ben a charim que Sharona Israeli to Harbey terra Sharona Suri, and Sharionasuri Banki is Soviet. But Mirka Vaza Keret had a mocha yacha niche.

SPEAKER_01 4:54

Aval Ken a Tankim Shilano and Tankim Ulim, a Thankim Shalano Rak Mit Patrim, Yoterva Yoter, Yeshar Bother Makom, Bivadai Mit Tankim Sovietim. Aval toda Zebasov Mikhona, M'Ot Gdola Makom Mirvah Logadol, and he's a very good, I know the middle tank, or a lot, that we measure, as a gam derichagufim bahonazut. Apropos before, the vim shamauti, and elishmokolpam bencha naleshime, and shefiklotli may adgirve manazani ozev, nation of the case. Ken, nahon. Shele Gabishkenazi. Zekvara Khai Pinulavanon? Zakhe Pinulavanon Ken.

SPEAKER_02 6:37

Kitzalpaim. As Kait Salpaim Zahdain Leafne Khatifaber Dov Nahon. Baitaz Vadat Hakira Brachut Yossi Peled Husha Sh Nigram Ksat Avil le Tzvika Gendelman, Fakedugdashim Vesh, V Yachas Mwadafaprinski Kaplan Fakedugda Tishim Vachat.

SPEAKER_01 7:03

Loyati Balishka Basalavazze, andiati Balishka Khrei, De Khagawa Kharey, Akatifa, Shegvaraya Avimizrahim Fakedogda, Fakedugdash loyati ma show taflik olay male.

SPEAKER_02 7:18

Aval ifsha sharash Aluf Pikud, Loyemuda Gam Let Khachim, la Adafort Lan Etiot, Aitast tahut Ben Kaplinski, Leven Benigans, u kvarlohaya Bapikut ki mutlaya khidata ki show al vanon, o am fakedu gratayosh avalu ghazar k mfakeda guys that's funny. Tafkitch Basofgamata Mileta.

SPEAKER_01 7:50

Lonihnasti, Bekhlalo City Kanees Bedirchari Mayuma Huawei La Todz Gurot V Liaya Mitsuyan Kaha.

SPEAKER_02 8:00

Mala madami Ashkenazi Alof Pikud.

SPEAKER_01 8:04

Konkolamon, Ini me odi Ratioto u me'odmod kaya Gamiti a Valgabi Ashkenazi u Bahur Ma Vrik Benay, me odmod Kaham, lo que aum me atmeodzman la vin situati, me odze.

SPEAKER_02 8:21

Mazakashek lapeha?

SPEAKER_01 8:23

Toda bahure ralashve me fakedze the kmomish pahakimat, uh you are beam shirjashikahav, Iugam lifamim pachot, a valle any city tahitov shani hole, velamadeti hamun amun batafkitaze, uh tafkitha roet kulam, de khagav gabi u me eleshe nogimba setah lemata ba ulay khaitov shani karti ani zuhere kimat kolyom shishi anduhim vakerete chiko vegolani be genin, andaberitra le Khomat Magen. Ken, Khomat Magen, andabera le Esr Balailah, Ade Zorar Baba Woker, Kimat Kolm Shishi, Ani Lokea Hed Gabi Yosefoton Osimle Jenin, Osim Siv, U Yadai Ch Mutam, Shel Kola e Samalim Begolani, Mamash Bera Makazot, Ayakaha Memalea Virve Hozerabita, Azaita uhala Golani? Tami Da'va Kumta ou Loma Sustahol Tamurita Kumta Vazani Shar, and Shela. Vem Ali Mata Ut'al Shirion? Oh, the She Latova URB.

SPEAKER_02 10:39

As my bachelor as we are guys at the end of the day, guys, Nikhitsutash and Mifad guys, tzarih guys.

SPEAKER_01 10:59

Any mechanash, you're the guys. And the bird beauty, we're alufing v Ramatkalim. Guys Gamavarta Puhotrabot, Milhem Travonosnia, I litul is gota guest, lifnay Mihem Levanosnia, is gota guessot, Milhama, I litulftohta michadash, the fuh, guys are bashivate lyot guys levanon, the guys are bashesh alach guys matkali. Any khoshev shapikudaroma in Gais Bashivab October Vani Meshuknah, Mishuknah Mesh Gaisavarakitofia Holikrot, Le Pikud Velem Faked Pikud, Rak and Holagilh Anashimlo Yodim Maz Mivilaim.

SPEAKER_02 11:55

As Tazbir Gabya Shivab October ki akhreia Hishtul Tut, Shelahim Muslimim, Shel Mursi Ayara Ajon She Ulay Tech, Mitsraim Thzoliot Medina to Yevhent Zarik Le Kadesh Gam Gais Dromi, Av Zayarad Mursi Hupal. But Pikud Yaron Finkelman, Lemfaked Ugdat Azar Avi Rosenfeldt, ilwa ya Aluf Bemiloim or Beminuimishne, Yahadim Tafkidah, wa ya yo ter Kashuvle Mashekore Bazira.

SPEAKER_01 12:30

Anikodamiya Giche guys, Beni Gudle Pikud Mitasek Harbemood Bashigra, Vebayom Yom, Vebabatash. Guys, guys, the Hayash be Muhanouthama, being good le pikud, and the bergalifna Mil Khama. And Shivab October guys, Shivab Octoberze, and Twagana Israel, I am not a very good idea. Uh Mitzraim, the Yarden, we call it Varim. Leven Pikud, and we are calm, regalarimar, be machim la sort of strategic, so, we see mot noshimele. Azulaya Baya Yaretia mipne alufia foufla aluf. Tire, Ani Yekolagilha, Vani Khavitzegam, Achareze, Babikudatsafon. Guys, Levanon, guys are bash, a gas and nipikati layaman, heytev milk levanon, and city targilim le cola ugdot, vele kolak. Asgamba safam shotefit, ayalan nu safam shotefitova. Tamida metak levena pikud be k shirim shall beikar bene leven alova pikud vani anitzanua, ani holhagida letmi, andi mnit natelsha niomerezepo, andi loba regamakom shel kochanut, loba la kaat leafihadita mesimashelo, tafkitcheli shaket pikutsa phone, yet'lihbessimashelo. Kahani weze, anni kafuflifaket pikutsa phone, uhzotani shiv Bishulhana mateaklali, a guys k derig tacti habakirbe ter atafkitshelo, canzelima kulim leva shaita yakadim origordin az in Iraqi la tem to mim zahim shoof du belo the tam. Kenbemidbalbeleam, mazal shikumta shhurave gordin kumta duma, aval yesha bebel bul can. Are theazar layhasim miksoim? Lozev sh Gordin byta miksoi, webasof gamuside of Amar Sha Pikud, whoze sharega yefakeda la almash korbalon, sah lagich zaithil ksat yuter leat inksat pachot ukdot, awale anyadan khoshev shikomoshela gais unakutz u e khhi, aleminat lafnot etta kešheva pikudi la leva la strategy.

SPEAKER_02 16:09

At kasher ikimu ta gays atsponi uhil khemityom akipurim, vatalla aluftal, mefakdo, bismancharik sharonayam fake the gais atromishne memiluiim ayyushtahazitot, Surya Ulevanon le mashal be Milhemet Levanon, Bhesmonimustayim a Gais shel bril, Mosheba Kukhva, Aya Khaal Ramatagolan, Shemait Paterh Shamashu, Avalagel Janus, Nilhamneg Das Surim bikata Levanon. Azulai Mashayanna Kon Besnota Shivim Vashmonim, Kvarlona Khonhshap Ani Ma minse Unachon.

SPEAKER_01 16:48

Anima minse shov a Gais Vimfakeda Gais u Ze T Sarikha Le Tzerita Pikud Vash Lita Badega Takti, Bivaday She uh Pikud, Pikuda Tafon Sarikliot Betohha Loop, Aniga Muse Basov et Memalet Mesimata Pikud V Matrata Pikud, Aval Anikhushev Share Bivadayesh Le Zemakom Ev Shuv Sheshlik Hasura Velvan Beyat Bhallabena. She's Levanon Levad, Bli Surya Azraino, She's Ratova, Avale Aniad Khushev Shatim Anashem Shem Vinim Eta Khayazov Shenik Guys, The Khagafich Bagay Shali Geist The Basov the Mifkada, Khalakinim Sheliv V Akhaim Shele Bamkadah, Kulamim Asarot Rabot Shnot Nisajon. An Shemilim?

SPEAKER_02 17:44

An Shemilouim, Ken V Akashash, Matam Nasalist, Pikud, Shati Mis Nenet, Beinoleven Mefagde Ugdo, Shlitash, Ratson Lyot Bekesharias?

SPEAKER_01 18:00

Ken, Zegam Belkzat, Lomar, Ki Bashigra, Mefagdam Shell Mfagde Ugdo, Mefakeda Pikud, Ulomfakeda Gais. Lamro She Bashigra, Ani Bon Then Operativy, Munim, Vetargilin, Avale Ba Hirarhia Pikudit, Mefakeda Pikudot.

SPEAKER_02 18:41

As September Alpine Verhad, Alpine, Kesha Ashkenazi, Aluf Kamovan, I'm Faked Pico, Maha, Avani Gamola GitHub and Lozukhir's Bit's Ramashmout.

SPEAKER_01 22:00

And load them the Kufashkita, Aval Zelope. Mikna Khalim, Echatamulam. Tere Anisiam Tit of Kid, Amartilatmi, Gamma Falestini Novuti, the Gamma Mit Nachhalim Navuti, Tafkitov. Aval Anikhef Anima Min Besef Elmula Ribuya TV, and you may have a Pinhas Vallarchine, Virhulay Anime Odm O'Dracham, and Motovim. Yes, we scamnu, skamnu. Avalas it varinkamid beshumakom lifnaybait sava que each sava de sugiot zakyotka. Aval mach zavoot, nordam a you are be khikuhim. Ayouab Khikuchim, a husema shemutar alpok veh'shaya.

SPEAKER_02 23:42

Amivne Bagada Amivne Shela Marita Israelit Banual Khashia tzavay Shatef Pulayima Shabaka Mishhtarav Aminala Izrahi Shalosh Ara Glaima A Kherota ele Batkufah na Korsot.

SPEAKER_01 24:04

Ani Holagilhashani Sham Zayak mo Kesim, Amiti, Ashitufpula, V Hadadi Yut, Vemet, Coldavar, Asinu Beyachad, Mishara, Shabak, Minale Zahhi, Anizo Here's Mod, Ket Kufame Otto Vahel Shilovyut, A Vodamus, Ayom, Ani Roy Sho Bear Bothermeat Girl, Aval Anirga, Kmo Kulama, Bitre Matzat, Marchavot Chale, Fa Shele Mash Bemet's Factor Silent. As Lomar Bigala Gil Shelly, IT A Hasit Sair, Mahair, A Big Srim Vishmo. As Ayom Magadim Lefacot, Arba Shane Mavugarimut, As Big Lala, Sipur Shala Gilbaka, I'm Hola Sot Otaf Kid Otaf Kid. And City Arbataf Kadim and Sha Tafkida Vishosanim, Seh Lagid.

SPEAKER_02 27:03

Aval Lamrocha Mula Mateakl, Gam Belishata Taluf Tzaphon, Vegam Be Ayosh, Vegam Bzra Basha, Laita Bit of Kid Mateh Ba Matkal, B Khativata Mif Saim, O B Khati Vata Tihnun, Ze Loh Sarla?

SPEAKER_01 27:20

Lo Anchef Rosh Machek Tihnon Virgun Zraya Basha, Yom Z Netaf Kidim Nifradim Vimuhat Bay Khut Mazivatal Az Shaya Zafil U Tel Intensive, Zeb Derg Matkali, Ansaf Shani K Ramah Toar Ish Pati Baderg Matkali, IT Yoshev, Rosh Agat, Tzel Rosh Agafamiv Saim, Ainusim Dvarim Kalef and Yosh She Bemet Echad Z A Tafkid Sh Ulay Hakip At Tho T Veli Meduti Nosim Shem Enam Tzvaim Proper Haserli Mateklik Ali Mateklisha As Tazbir Manachon Uma Lona Bamivne Shell Kochota Yabasha Nobar Al Hamas Agdola Shela Khailot V Aben Heli Veshel Zro Yabasha Lebinian Koa Hhaim Zivne Nachon Litzal Akhre Kimachmonim Shana Ksharamatkal Wa Dain Me Faked Yabasha What's He's What's I'm Mr She Lamula Shet Lai Kod Faked Zro Shenas, U Shuel Tasot M Kod Ramatkal Shen Has Tohe Mze Mashon Lazot Canir Shelo Zwa Bashaz Miflet Gola, Kimachivima Huzma Sadak Shell Shil Colat Savar Kashela Zizuta V Mamaset Metosim She Zazam Because Hames Eser Ma'alot Z Z Kid Faked Zro Viz Hames Eser Malot Zekimat Bil T Sherry El M Ken Kola Mateak Lit Hawaii And Y Zoya Basha Ikdola Alamif Kadashela We Culpa Y Metaf Sha'kid B Zroya Basha Lou Faith Ma Rachatim Roon. Zelefakot, Model, Mizem Fakeda Zroa, Vanachim Zim, Dim Be Tav, Bikat Pikudokov, Andola Mitsad Had, E Bash Lita Rekusit, Mitsad Shene, We Shaloshani Mil Hama, Shella Rimeta Rosh M'Alamaim, Velista Kevadima, What's the Dim. And Debati Beshavasha War and Faked Zoya Basha, Shana Vitha Shimba Hood, and Ukraine, Mizra, and B Ukraine. When I give the B and Talou, Bene L Fish Mother Alpha Km Oracle Shall Khazit. Khil Khal Robotica, Bizua Basha? And Robotica, Valaimamin, Shaba. She Ba Hamesh She's a Robotime.

SPEAKER_02 32:23

Clomariu Gampachotnif Gaim, Sh Lihoraze Davarshi Trilim, Roa Yora, Vetankey Pele, you call me Nisoim Yeshgam Klerech Bachirim, Yabashtim, Yamim, Mahirim, Sh Naim Le Loadam, as a massa or side a nichilim.

SPEAKER_01 32:44

Lo done sechlagid. Avalat fisa, the anika taftial z Sukel Seferze, karati lo mitsuya technologia Belukhataya Bashav, istakalti a sora a khora, alpimerba, the gum twokeitan vegam krim. The Tzukeitan Vebikari istakalti al eze shinui metoraf a technologia ve digitati a stalano tankisti. Shallah gifted al Pimer Bays, Vadaya, tziayad. Ayom za kolbe tattow, makeablim ittour shel matara, veculam rayometara, vasehuly fa oyeev, who mio ter Katlanev, we mio ter Yael. Kwala Tot Khanim vehilavir. Kwala Tot Khanimullaff. Kwala khir shayom Yacholevaya tilaut orakfanut Kulamayom i Khubarim. A ketsev shalam ilhamat sehla gid u ishtanabitzura my od mod mashmoutit ve ishtanegamba tid v share the bear deserv.

SPEAKER_02 34:13

As F at Tankarey Oto a Luftalch is Karnu Tamida Marsh Aoyev Higadol Shellah Tank Zamateakl, Shelom Vin Ad Kama Tank Hu Nos Hahraba Yabasha, Vaz Bau Mesokeat Kifa, Bow Vek Vari Nam Biglal and Neshek Karka Avir, Avalina Raffani?

SPEAKER_01 34:38

As Ken, Rachfanze Young La Tank, and Yunga Dol Mida, and Sha Stratemi Ukraine, and by Kiraze, Avalba by Yum. Yes, anilo o Khirnikad, Bamil Hama Zoti, Shagilha, Muhanli Lachem lilo tankim. A tank ze bish metoraf. Zelok ze marachet, meotha kama, deatri galav, kenet theakrav, ve la gidma yeshama, ve maserda de food. Ve anikhzef sh a tankim shelom, mrkava arba, ve arba barak, ima kolmi e tvarim bef name, we ituk shel sensorim, the arbe arbet khacham, Zemalet ketzewalihima, ve Zemaleh ketsewalihimahle, bi me uhad ehadat'sadim, as anikh by tactit, he ba yaks day mahir. Lamo shappa meapam catsin Amerika the sof I danchhamota rukoat, weim shelo, zanian tactia.

SPEAKER_02 35:50

The sof aroh, la milchamout, losof Milhamota Rukot. B toh Ashtahima, Tsufima Ironim, Gambe Aza, Gambi Levanon, uhkit Hashuv?

SPEAKER_01 36:05

Tank is Tafkit me o'mothashov, Lefatseach Matarot, Lyotgamugan, we m komoche cache lo lich bayemiragli. Na kon yeshnifgaim, ve eh dwarim, vedehagav, robotica, v technologia, man lokiah kle, her berber telkatan mi tank, na lefanaav, ve poter tatir, ve gamim tsariholeal mitan shia tankaya lotalav, kaka naknut simlila kim. A robot yegasash, a robot yegashah, a robot, tzadihadchapachot me ofteh, veakol mi khubar le la tank, o le reke macher, or le makomacher, zekal, anakhmu simze, loma speak anhbube milhama kheret, avaladin, andankim, yeshita, makuma mr kazishalem, bilibatatim wuna bashi. Any lodem tankoregitinar, or is a khrenik originwar, basofts. When a khela vir, and chef kamah shim lifneamil khama, it's lachnu le sankren, but uh built him runa karkei, baradla magad, baradmagad zeshem code. Avalsehlagi khela virshanim diberale siwa, velo asasiwa, and chef baidanshele naukin zayam odme od boulet be ze khelavirasut siwa, norkin asa bhishotima mahatim, vanih mi sheta be metadavare le pasim sha siya, ve shelbitswa ziv kohavi, by sharazh el behmet khibour digital. Yesh push net varim sehla gid. Ben khelavir le la yabasha. Khelavir me los samachha la yabasha, yabasha mkal khelavir nahu baal fater gilimidavare khrnik or tankist, et a kav shelaviromer altavro, vaz khlavira balataril, mera ni lofzitzam. Ken ki mishuavar, we tamidas yenuze, af pamuimanu beemet be met yeshambi shvilenu, vutamid khashaf yabasha shakaranin, ki on rium shaf la, web'shuav. Khasha yamib giabekote. Nahun Bahour shawid tzasash el ton. Azenian tabutihavani iftama ermodba milhama. Sha tzarih eta siywash khela vira ta' lover ta' kafbahaim, kata rotze tzatasash el tonuta. Digitali, ze sha nahnu vetayasim raimutan matarot, med the safame odmud shootave hiraze, v A khibuze, mafirno itko fayo, ma time meter mikrote, aft sa vaba olam, a filo Amerikan losin varimkele.

SPEAKER_02 39:09

La nita al-shailat zwa yabasha mrak bona fila. As ifalat minu khum, lemfakeda zwa, kmosha amartashlachem, mlim fakdei amarachim, but you uh zew fekheta zwa l'ha mishumai omed kalother a khhrim nil khamim.

SPEAKER_01 39:36

Cut mouvne ben zroya bachha leven a pikudim khavim, kole pikud gam what'shwahir, masha matem le pikud safon, lomatim le pikud. Azra ba, hizo, becem machlitah, basof, a khlatah, a sofit, ishan fakke zroya baxha, albiniana kowah. Ki la pikud, a pikud lehul ikno od tanki, o la kole liknote amlach ka ved kazewah. Avaniken khoshef seih mishutaf, vitamidaya seih mishutaf, benaz roa le vena pikudim. Vekulanu gadan ba pikudim, l'adalba zroa. Ashefpo shu, metak move, sech lagid, a valgameshpo shaitan shoved ya khasitov.

SPEAKER_02 40:25

Avaliluatam fakeked zwaya ba shha, eitam vada in evak, shiel kagam tafkid bikirum.

SPEAKER_01 40:36

Mishhaya basov aluf bezroya basha faked mahtimodza minui mishni kumvana fakeda guys, aya minuem kazei. Avalani lobatuah faked Zroya Basha Tsarikh Minui Belhima, andchev shot pam, masha sera yoom the Mishu Kazesh iten regalakhrimilahem, Yahrim Tarosh mealamaim, istakelah Shawaya Kadima, vehagid echtsehiv ta kuach, lachati shanakova, la shanakova, vel khameshanimak.

SPEAKER_02 41:07

Zu Yoetsia basha laamatkar. Baizuna ben khili, beikasha yom taita machat chiron, machat tarba mutvahat, Aval mishin il khan the sakah, the sevet kraf khativati shyeshbo gam tothanim, the gamandasav, gam kesher, kolasha. Azulai and sorirh, binyan chhativot chirion, kavat shimunut mik so eit, sisit, avalulai, kolaigun sehlishtanot.

SPEAKER_01 41:35

Aniima minchun sehlistanot, yeshbokama khasamimla istanot azothi, mli istanot, time ainiana tarbuti, andi ez seva kumta yesli Aval anima min sh batid sehiot Magadya basha ve machatya basha. Lomagadhir vemhat v Magad Shiryon, Vem Mahath Hir Vem Mahathirion Magadim Basirion Yeshlaima Bater Khirma Sher Tanking Belhima. Vem Mahatim the Var, Vebiglaze and Shiot Pom fakedi Yabashti, the Khagav Khan Vim Shit can Fakeduk Dash Limashishim Vishteim the Lakakat Samgadim, Vesam Khatim and Mahlif Samgad Begduci Ron, V Samgad Hirnik, Vich.

SPEAKER_02 42:30

Gambatan Khanim, Zekara.

SPEAKER_01 42:32

As a city Zelekulam, Kim Faked Marahatimona City Zelekulam, and he should have Zebuneta Katsin Batzurato Vabioter, and Hola Gilhab, Vadaesh, Amagadi Marishonim Mbasof, Mr. Zadavar, Hinotam, Hakitov Le Pikulat Sevet Krav Dude, and Safekbechal, Shuya Darega, Maziryon, Ki today, Kheni, Khirnik Talo, Lomivin Bezearbe.

SPEAKER_02 42:56

Agabitahla Koteret Chirion, Yesh Kamuvan Tankim, Avalgam, Khermesh, Khala Glim Shoyonchib Zvota Khirim, Humea Elite, Vebetzal, Beikarbitkufat Milhemata Atasha, Glyfne, Vachrey, Nithaklit Taktih Sulam, Gam Sayaret Shirion, She Otpan, Baave Olechet, Vegam Khelahimush, Kshaatar Lemashal Bayadla Shiron, Metaberal Shiron, Daberal Kolar Batar Khivimai.

SPEAKER_01 43:24

The Shilamula. The Celamula, Bagdud Shirion, or Kavot be Bayadla Shiron. Zalom Sani mata Tabach bei Bagdud, o imata Lochem, o imata Ishah Zakah o Ish Khermesh. Konikol Zekaka. Adavar Ken and Bena Plugota Elisha the Bemets Oleve y Red. Gama Sajaroton. Vegame We have to be able to do that. But we are not going to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_02 49:38

Aval, Athabachot Yail Uh Mekadmim Anasim Fakdeh Ugdot Bikar Shel Khamovi Krivu Le Tafkidim shall Gamatakoralem estrategium Bamateaklali K shelbe makhsara or Thunot Matimotlich, Lokol Mishaya Ugdoner Meod Tahlitiv Hetkefi Beaza Yahooliot Roshagaf Bamateaklali.

SPEAKER_01 50:08

Kokolse Mitsuyanim Kokach Beshane and Bezora Slushim Shana Basetach Zemot Khashov Batzajali. Shea Elav Begilme Vugar as Lookah Terzman. Ava Lanchevola Hevrael M Teyrim Virchamim Vegaminka Lokio Terzman kill Pamri Shona Magia Tafkid Mate, and he better Idula Tofotovel Azolo. And the Bogir Kumfakdeau Dot, and it's like the Shani Lobogirot Pumamarnus Lakrootyot, the Aitzekiotte, Bemabal, the Hagav Zipuriafe, it is soft of kid, and the other thing is that the same, the Hamil Kama, Mit Kashirelai, Vomili Sar Takiv Mada Khalil Ramah Tua Besraybasha, Fakeda and If Latil Madame, as you are Ramach Besraybasha, the Kaka and if Radhimabal. Shabak Hilavir, Lo Loshabak, Val Khilavir, Vemudin, V Atal, V Akevreele, Shabemet Bemit Basof, the you Tatea Lufimbem Kumot, M'od Mulkazim vehitsekhimutam. When you can, the Torem, the Mashmouti, Vitsech Lam Shekh Lasot Tokamovan.

SPEAKER_02 53:40

Yesh bisbuz Lomovan Klomarimata or Lakata Kol Latzada ishi as the ken mouvan vuken tv. Avalberea go to Lomuvan Keshlo Shimshana Atsava Matsmiha, Migilishmonis Adkarovli Khamishim. V'azata Aluf, Kiara Matkalam Matzashata Matim Vehrez Bara Matkalakher, Lominatzel Thaletafkid Aluf Nusaf, me Naniak Mfaket Gaia' Luf Pikudo Le Roshagavna Matkal, Venifradmcha, Vzekara l'abim, it's cata it micki eitlista in the mashal, the kara gamlicha, ki ma ki ki nkhsavta le makehov mi dai la viv kohavi? Anilhushev. Lokozefizoteita asiba. Kohavi asajle mitmana eisenkoat, Vasbah Levi Vasajel Mitmanae kohavi?

SPEAKER_01 54:41

Anil Lohhoshef andi bo Bonagi Lakhofaz L Asiba. Velkolamatkal Bemat Bemete Nashim Shelo Mitsadihad. Lamochani Aiti Kama peamim Kafufle Herzi, Bemalahat Afkidimashonim. Pikudarom? Bonathilbazeshu Baliot Mahat Mena Shavan eight Xinagam Mugatayosh, Shamaikarnu Vakhze B aniti Mahatwaya Mfaketi Shimvehad, Vakazab Epikudarom, Kfifuti Shira, Shaiti Fakedugdavo, Mfakeda Pikud, as Ikarnukvar Loma Chanimba by Kerazi, and I show the Mashu Ishi, Avalanim, Korra Matkal, Ru Zelotita Mateakla Lisha Lohsa. Mitsachani Khushevche Yatzati Bazman Gamagi uh Tanja alimer.

SPEAKER_02 55:53

Korelecha, Vomalha Siamta, what I'm gonna litnaged.

SPEAKER_01 55:58

Any mini at a loyal, uh Vegamla Git Siamta Zelo Zelo Vitka Aval Ken, or what Sasha any Zaya Milhama Shania Gillos any Mesaimetafkid, when he should say motokodim, it's a big mot. Ken Aval show, what is cool as a Anilfakotif netyuto lehneme komot, etoha geis, lasot audio ter letn audio ter to operativiot veoter la omek, the khav rova tohnyota operativo che pikutafon bonotama gays. Khitsea phone? Eh gam vegame et kamuata imunim shiacinor, basofla kachnut kolakati voch inuhemu beazav imanu tam defination khasorte lelevanon, kizeraga not simona khera ni koelezele. Shannot mama seta ha shiva.

SPEAKER_02 58:11

Yesbe bez Avil Baruchadha Lonot Nimlicha Lovilihima, Umi Chacanium Rimlecha anachnuthimita Tafkichlcha kedeleta Gmel Mishu Shayabalihima.

SPEAKER_01 58:26

Ani de Holagilha Shani Zayame od Mod amok ba lev a Valzelo Lonatan leze lafra ani lahevo sheliba Gais emafdu ve Mayusham Vanachnogam Ivanushe Bare Shaga Gais Lomufal, Atafkitchelize La Zorla Pikud, Arbeme Odme Abhirim It's Liba Gais, Ayu Manlachiman Alelechima Bekola Mel Kazim Shelapikud, Zelonatani andilo, Shakati Bedika Oono Bemashu, Amarti Alti Z Bakar, Ton Operative Vila Imunim, Tachat, Kamovan Fakeda Pikud, Tamid Shushat, Ahmatsa, Shea Guys Lo Kibela Khayut, Avalze T Slizia, Me Old Mod, Should Live Makom Ra Hok Veloz Bhat's What's I'm Mm.

SPEAKER_02 59:28

Kal, Roshama, Aluf Pikudarum, Hoshagaf Mifsay, Mihtas' Rovit Be Anagata Savat's How's He's How's Mita Rovit Sha Holy Komo.

SPEAKER_01 59:40

Alef Kodan Kulani Khavs Heverse Yrim M'Ulim Vaniloka Bivaday Betzal Mrs. Bek Sherlock, Tua Zip, Shia Yuka Srim Lichet, Shall Humu Hharmidai, Avalchef's Tia Aniklan, Nisula Sot Akitof Shemikolim, Baikaz. Gambe Belechimami Mushekhit, Vegambe Medini. Magad Shaita Mempe K no I'm Magad Mempe Bashizafone, Wakhreze and Eight Mat You've Day Vakreza, Rome, If No Arbe Mile. Larim Taroh, Laridre Gama Kivuni Melkazim, Vede Ba Urlau, Sha Robotica, Kivun Merka Ulam.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:27

Nif Gaim. Aval Adaj Na Sheila Echata Keshba Kavim a Ta' Makzika Nashim, Ata' Ma' Difet Kavim Akid Mimim Kma Bit Kufat Kav Barlev, Ra Khashav Beaza U Belevanon Al Mir Khavim Meforazim O Nishlatim She Tukalma Khorehem Litergen.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:55

Esli Thuwaganiz, Zelo Khayav Lavomat Sava Tire Makarabe Mistrada Milhama Amerikai Shafahlios Mistrada Ganaale Mistrada Milhama, Pet Hek Sara Milhamaa Lakah Me Tzadim Kadima, itkola si porze shel Eqtira Mil Kamaba ve Begadulla Kahme Tsava itkimat kola khajut al Binyanakwahati, the Mishio Sayon Binyan Koa beatabrit Kadima the DOW, the Mistrada Milkhamah, Rahfanut, Robotika Karkait, Robotika Avirit Veyamit, Lishami Mulhim, the Mishio Sedze the Letsohan Mistrada Bita Khab. Amir Baram, we're not shav, and your chef Mikholim la sortemot varim by Ksherazé, Le Marchal, Echmarzik, Fanim Vasara Khusrailim, Velo Fuch.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:30

Adam Shabatank, Aitaron, Aval ba technologia shoutata Rosalemazot, Yahoo Chela Yvim Yesh Hay Segim Shemeka Zimita Itaron Chayata Mitchelzal.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:49

Any maskem, and Ivim Shelanu Mishta nimarbeuter may be a itarona gadolbe Ukraina M'od Kaved, we dai mulat sava rusi, the shem vino shems kimot kolazman.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:22

Aluf sartu, ayomsha ta luvesh madim naniak behalvajotchel Alufim Nireta it's a magish pa' kot GM ashalifna Shivab Oktober.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:37

Ani Magish me odge a Valešlano eta Davara Zebalev Mya Shivab Oktober Zuzlano. Anichefal Basaloshanot Vebi Muchad Tsvaya Basha, Shafihadlo, asupo dvarim uflaim. Asalnu oktober, and sotakol sh loyal no civab oktober.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:11

Alufamilo im sartu todali, trout.