Bald Guys On The Bench
Bald Guys On The Bench
Rivers Returns, Chiefs Fall, Chaos Reigns
Recorded December 14th, 2025
A 44-year-old quarterback doesn’t just stroll back into the NFL and steady a two-minute drill in Seattle… unless his name is Philip Rivers. We unpack the most cinematic moment of Week 15, from Rivers’ reunion with Shane Steichen’s offense to the precision throws that sparked a sideline full of goosebumps and a high school team cheering from afar. It wasn’t just nostalgia—it was a masterclass in processing and timing under pressure.
Meanwhile, the Chargers’ defense turned the rivalry with Kansas City on its head, sweeping the Chiefs with edge pressure, disguised coverages, and well-timed takeaways. We get honest about what’s actually wrong in KC: a ravaged offensive line, a quarterback gutting it out, aging weapons, and a cap sheet that’s about to bite. Is the dynasty over or just dented? We break down what the film says, what the numbers say, and what the offseason needs to fix. Then we zoom out to a different firestorm: Michigan’s coaching implosion. From social media receipts to recruiting optics and leadership failures, we talk about how programs try to protect the shield—and why that doesn’t work in a screenshot world.
There were monsters on defense, too. Miles Garrett continued a Defensive Player of the Year campaign for the ages, closing in on the single-season sack mark with violent hands and perfect bend. The AFC East tightened after the Bills erased a massive deficit, and we dig into the tiebreaker math that might decide seeding. Over in the NFC, the Rams’ second-half adjustments and multi-tight end looks made them look like the most complete team standing, while injuries to key playmakers scrambled confidence in would-be contenders.
If you love the sport when it gets messy and meaningful—when legacies shift, rosters wobble, and December turns pretenders into pumpkins—this one’s for you. Hit play, ride the highs and rants with us, then tell a friend who needs football therapy. Subscribe, share, and drop a review with your boldest playoff prediction. Who’s surging at the right moment?
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Welcome to another episode of the Bald Guys on the Bench Podcast with your hosts Graham Cohen and Scott Wasco.
Graham:What's up everyone? Welcome back to another episode of the Bald Guys on the Bench. Scotty Wah, week 15. How you doing, brother?
Scott:I'm doing great. We're sitting here watching the Sunday night game. Cowboys Vikings. Your boy squad just put the dagger in the Chiefs. And who's got it better than us? Nobody. If Jefferson can get this touchdown, uh dude, before we even get into it, let's go. You know what time it is. It's about that time.
Graham:Let's grab it and crack it, brother.
Scott:Oh, so before we even get going, you know, since I already brought up the elimination of the Chiefs, dude, saw something earlier. I had to bring it up before we even get going. Uh the last AFC title game without Mahomes or Brady starting a quarterback was in 2010 when Rothesberger beat Mark Sanchez.
Graham:Wow.
Scott:Yeah, dude.
Graham:End of an era.
Scott:We'll get into that in a little while, but you know, Sunday night we're watching the game. Uh you got your Steelers on tomorrow night, so you obviously didn't have any stressing. What'd you do this weekend? I mean, what's going on? Since the last time we chatted.
Graham:Just uh some work. Got a bunch of uh holiday Christmas parties had to take care of, had today off. Luckily, uh Pittsburgh's playing tomorrow night, so I was able to sleep in a little bit, just because the main games I wanted to watch were the afternoon games. Uh, you know, the only real exciting game that was really even worth anything of watching was the uh Buffalo Bills at the Patriots. So it was nice watching that.
Scott:My game wasn't exciting. Oh, thanks. Appreciate it. Appreciate it, you know. Yeah. Watching Pat Mahomes be eliminated from the playoffs isn't exciting. Okay, cool.
Graham:Well it is. Let me ask you a question. Oh my god, Jefferson. I can give you the distinction. The distinction is it's yeah, you guys beat the Chiefs, but you didn't beat the same old Chiefs. You beat the depleted Chiefs, you beat the Chiefs, you know, on a bum knee, you beat the Chiefs. No, I I mean like don't care. I get it. Yeah, you you you beat him. You beat them two times in the year. Congratulations. You're the team that took him away from you know, not making the playoffs. Yeah, I mean, like, it was good, but I how much confidence did the rest of the league have in the Chiefs the last however many games?
Scott:And I'm glad you're talking shit on my boys right now. I'm not talking shit on the Chargers. Because this is classic right here. This is classic. Okay. Back to back wins behind the worst offensive line in football with one hand beating last year's Super Bowl teams in consecutive weeks, operating like a surgeon during an earthquake, and yet people don't give my boy credit.
Graham:I didn't say you gotta win the game. I'm not saying you don't.
Scott:You gotta win the game. You do. You can only play who's on your schedule. Did the Chiefs beat the Steelers? Probably.
Graham:I mean We didn't we didn't play them.
Scott:I know. You play tomorrow night and the Dolphins. I'm not gonna bring that up. Dude, I mean uh No, I'm gonna know 21, they've won their last 21 games on Monday Night Football.
Graham:Yeah. Ask me where my confidence level is. It's not very high. I mean, it was before anyhow.
Scott:Back to weekend, you know, talking about your bullshit. I mean, we all know you don't wake up early enough for a 10 a.m. game.
Graham:I mean, you when Pittsburgh starts at 10, I'm up every game. I've been up every game this season.
Scott:Hold on, hold on. I got this weird thing that's getting ready to happen. I got this weird bullshit call.
Graham:I've been up for every Steelers game this year. It's been a nice change, but hey, when you're paying for the package, you watching. So who's paying?
Scott:When who's paying?
Graham:I just said when the package is paid for, no, you get up and watch it when you're paying for the package. I didn't.
Scott:Anyhow. Wow. Wow. Before we even get into, I mean, you just didn't even start about your weekend. You started talking shit about me eliminating the Chiefs.
Graham:I said, I said I worked, and then today was the day off, and I spent it watching the games. Then I talked about how I was excited to watch the afternoon games because only thing worth exciting to watch during the early games, what's was what I thought was the Bills game. Then you brought up, well, what about my team? And I was like, Oh yeah. And then here we are.
Scott:So this is hilarious, okay? You know, our boy Rob and his son Trevor were in Kansas City for the game, right? Dude, Rob sends me this like an hour before the game. Oh boy. Oh shit, hold on. I'm gonna send it to you right now, dude. How spoiled is the Chiefs fan base? Okay, he literally sends me, I'm sending, I'm texting it to you right now. Um dudes were wearing the bags over their heads at Arrowhead. The front door, dude. Like, he goes, Could you imagine if this guy had to live through our hell as a charger fan? And my exact comment back to him was, what a bitch.
Graham:I mean, dude, not only that, Trevor sent me a couple videos.
Scott:That place was empty. Empty. Dude, Trevor, when he called me last week to tell me he got tickets, he said he bought $70 uh tickets, $70 each, sitting in the nosebleeds. And he sends me a video, and I'm like, I thought you were in the nosebleeds, and he's like, No, dude, we bought new tickets this morning for $70. They're on field level. I'm like, what'd you do with the other tickets? And he goes, We just ate them. Dude. Ha ha ha. Insane. Insane, dude. I I couldn't even I mean, look at this. Look at this where they were. Where's Rob?
Graham:Well, I saw the pictures you sent at the end where they were sitting standing. Well, I mean, dude. I look the Chiefs. How relevant have they been prior to Patrick Mahomes? Not a lot, dude. I mean So, I mean, look, I'm not defending the paper bags over the head. I mean, that's just ridiculous. When you've been spoiled for as long as they have these last X amount of years, I you know you're always gonna have those few fans that are just gonna ruin it for the other fans. And and and look, that's I mean, just hearing that, how can you say that that fan base is as good as or better than the Browns? Or better than the Raiders, or better than you know, the Bears, Pittsburgh, I mean you know, Green Bay.
Scott:And with them being eliminated to going into next year, they're 44 million dollars over the cap. And they have holes everywhere. Yeah. Think about that, dude. And Kermit's injury, they're saying he's probably not starting the season.
Graham:Oh, definitely not.
Scott:No Kelsey, dude. Uh and you know, it's been a while since I've had a kick rocks moment. It's time. Kelsey, you know what? When my boy, the oldest player on the field, levels your wide receiver, was it a penalty? 100%. Should he be an ejected? No. But when Tony Jefferson, aka the unk, blast him, and you decide, oh, you're gonna start talking shit after four or five of your teammates are in front of you. Oh, yeah, that's real tough. Oh, yeah, I got four of my teammates, and I'm gonna go act like I'm Billy Badass because I'm gonna marry Taylor Swift. Dude, like, come on, bro. Like, I cannot wait to listen to your podcast on Wednesday and listen to you whine and say the same shit you've been saying all season. Oh, we just gotta play better. We gotta be a better team on all three phases of the of the game. You know, special teams, defense, and offense. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Dude, kick rocks. You know, you've had a great career. It's time for you to hang it up, bro. Enough is enough. Go right off into the sunset on the Ares tour or whatever the fuck they call that shit nowadays. You know, have fun being the plus one for the rest of your life. That's all I can say. The only reason I listen to your podcast is because your brother's the greatest person on the face of the earth. And the one person that I haven't had a beer with that I would love to have a beer with. But, dude, I mean, come on. I'm tired of hearing your shit. I'm so pissed off. I dropped this ball, I dropped this ball, I drop this ball. Dude, the only reason you got drafted in the second round is because of your brother. Because Andy Reid asked your brother, Am I gonna have an issue with him? Not saying he's not a Hall of Famer, but he is, obviously. But kick rocks, bro. You ever seen Antonio Gates drop balls like that? Nope. This guy hasn't. First ballot. Yeah, whatever. Who's got more? Who's got more touchdowns? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. You're welcome. Uh whatever, we're not even getting in that debate. All I'm saying is don't come out and try to start shit and try to stick up for your teammate when you got four of your teammates in front of you. Oh, I'm gonna kick your ass. You're lucky they hold me back. Yeah, hold me back, hold me way fucking back. You stupid piece of shit. You know, dude. I was dude, I had the family over there. My dad was here, Kellen, Ava, Andrew, Addy were here, and I started going off. And Kristen's like, stop. And I'm like, stop nothing. You know the drill. This is my four hours of the week where I can say whatever the F I want to say. It's a guilt-free zone.
Graham:Um, bitter party of one?
Scott:I'm not bitter. My team won. I don't care.
Graham:My butt's not my point. I mean, all I'm gonna say is this. Your little rant is how a lot of us felt, myself felt with Tom Brady for all those years. Right? And how, you know, the bad calls against us in the AFC Championship, always playing them in the playoffs. Well one thing after the other. Am I still bitter at Tom Brady now? Yeah, a little, but it's not that sting of how it was when he was still playing and then just ending.
Scott:I'm so glad. I'm so glad you brought up Tom Brady, though.
Graham:Okay.
Scott:Okay. Tom Brady had a season-ending left knee injury in his ninth season. Mahomes? Season injury, season-ending left knee injury in his ninth season.
Graham:Yeah. And how many more uh Super Bowls did he win after that?
Scott:A lot.
Graham:Yeah, I'm just saying, like, look, I get it. If my team was in the Patriots division during Tom Brady, I'd be pretty f and pissed as well, too. I get it. Your team is ascending, it's your guys' time.
Scott:Dude, we lost to Tom Brady when we had the number one seed in 2006 at home in the divisional round, all because of Marlon McCree. We lost the next year in the AFC Championship game in Foxboro with Rivers, who's just coming off the ACL surgery, to the greatest offense ever. You know, don't say the Steelers and Tom Brady are more bitter than the Chargers and Tom Brady.
Graham:I mean. The overturned touchdown in 2017 that would have would have been the game-winning touchdown for us to go to the Super Bowl. I mean, uh, I'm just saying. There's there there's you know, there's grief to go around. That's all I'm saying.
Scott:Yeah, everybody's everybody's bitter at Tom Brahey, too.
Graham:Well, I mean when you're the greatest quarterback of all time, like of course you're gonna be have a few people bitter at you. I I I get that. Look, uh it's am I happy for the Chargers that I think they were gonna win today? Yes. I'm just saying watching the game, it was I'm all bias aside, did you think it was a good game to watch?
Scott:It was exactly what I expected it to be.
Graham:Right.
Scott:You're talking about two teams who literally both oh my god, our he missed another one.
Graham:That's the second one.
Scott:Is this real life? Is this real life? Two in one game?
Graham:Wow.
Scott:Anyhow, you're talking about the Chiefs who are missing their entire offensive line, the Chargers who were missing their entire offensive line.
Graham:Right.
Scott:It's it's exactly what I thought was gonna it was gonna look like.
Graham:Yeah.
Scott:It was uh uh I mean the whole the Chiefs' first drive, dude, it's third and six, and we hold them and then they call that flag on Derwin, and they go down the field and score a touchdown. That was their only touchdown. I'm a homes 12-yard rush, you know. Uh yeah. Uh I didn't I didn't I didn't think it was gonna be a high scoring game, you know. I knew our edge rushers were gonna dominate the game, and they did, dude. Boy, dude, what a trade we made for him from Baltimore. Oh my god, dude's been a stud. He had two he had to do. It was, but I I mean, it is what it is. It's a classic Chargers Chiefs game, and you know, I didn't know how it was gonna end. The only thing I was weirded out by, I don't know if you saw Dayon Henley's interception right in the corner, right before the end zone. Why are they throwing it right there? Bro, that came out range. Why are they passing it? And then the Derwin interception to basically ice the game, Derwin came out and he goes, I knew the formation they were in, I knew where the ball was going. Done. TP sent me something earlier, and we'll move on because we're not even paying attention to any of these notes.
Graham:We have wait, we have notes.
Scott:Dude, the craziest thing, going into today, Harbaugh his record in our division was eight and two. The two was both against the Chiefs for a combined for losses and two losses combined nine points. We're nine and two with Harbaugh as our coach. Love it. Love it. What are you shaking your head about? Grammar police. Oh whatever.
Graham:He's I I just I can't.
Scott:Whatever. Um but something since we got off topic, we have to chat about because this is insane. Uh news that rocked the sports world a couple days ago. And what happened? That is uh the head coach at Michigan got let go.
Graham:What?
Scott:He did, dude. Oh, is that no Hawkinson? Now they're gonna give it to Mason. Yeah, that guy's gonna remember that time. Remember that time you have the second best wide receiver in the game and he can't catch shit.
Graham:Hey, I took Malik Neighbors in the first round, so don't give me shit. Yeah, but your team, your team blows. Yeah, because they got hurt.
Scott:You didn't score the most points in the league. What is Andy saying? Oh, Saints won up. Oh god.
Graham:That and then you know the discount double check, the the Toyota Thon, so he says the Subaru-thon.
Scott:Dude, how about did you see what Billy said to comment on Badger? Where was it? Oh, I don't know. Was it in the auction league thread? Billy's like a December to remember. Yeah. Oh, that's his second tutty. Appreciate it. Anyhow, uh, dude, Sharon Moore gets fired, and the news comes out, and everybody's like, What the hell? I can't believe he got fired. Then later it starts coming out. My homeboy's been detained by the cops, and you're like, What the hell? Dude, the disaster.
Graham:You can't even make this up. That's how bad it is. It just gets worse and worse and worse as each day goes by. The more news you hear about it, you're like, what? Like, there's just no way. I I just I don't know how people can think as an individual like either they're just so isolated from the outside that they just don't think their actions or people are noticing them or or what the deal is. But it's just like if you were fortunate enough to be put in a situation that you know, let's say football terms, if you outkick your coverage and you get put in a situation that like was pretty much handed to you. I mean, he got handed the Michigan job.
Scott:Like, like I said, like I've been saying, I don't know if I said it all. On the podcast a couple weeks ago, Harbaugh used to say Ryan Day was born on third base. Yeah. Dude, I've said it since he took over for Harbaugh. He was born a foot off home plate. Yeah. I I mean, when Harbaugh left, it was in Harbaugh's exit contract that he was the head coach.
Graham:I'd love to get his take. I mean, he's a big thing. Well, they asked him, they asked him the other day, and he was like, he's not gonna say I'm not saying at all.
Scott:No chance he's saying anything. He's like, I'm still trying to uh understand the situation. Dude, I mean he's do you think he's called him? Oh, a hundred percent. They've talked. Yeah. But then though, all the I mean, and once again, we're in the AI world, right? Right? You don't know what to believe. You don't know things came out that the DoorDash guy is the one that reported it when he was delivering a plan B or whatever the hell pill it is.
Graham:There's no that is so bullshit.
Scott:Dude, then it comes out that there was an investigation last summer from the University of Michigan, and of course both parties denied it. Dude, it's I guess he was seeing you know, counselors and this and that, and you don't even know what to believe. Then there's shit coming out, you know, what's today, Sunday? Shit coming out Friday that Moore literally was hitting up OnlyFans girls the night we won the national championship in Houston when we beat Washington saying, hey, come to my room, I'll give you season tickets next year. I mean, then then there's things there's people that screenshot these girls that he was hitting them up five minutes after he got released after he posted Bond. Is this guy just dumb?
Graham:I mean there is no like that's my point. You can't you have to literally be screws loose to do that just for the chance to get caught. You're like you're in so much hot water right now that oh yeah, that anyone I don't say this everyone wants their 15 minutes of fame. You don't think if someone has an opportunity, like if they if someone if he hits someone up, you don't think that person's gonna be like, oh, let me chime in here and get my 15 minutes. You know, they everyone chases clout, they want to be in the story, and like that's why there's some of it. I'm just like, there's like there's no way this can be true. Granted, there are dumb MFers out there, like people, you know, as they say, kids say the darkest is anything is possible, but come on, man. Really?
Scott:When you're a guy at a program like that, and like a top five program in college football, they're watching everything, dude. Oh hey, pickens, welcome to the game. Uh everything, dude. Everything. It's insane. And now this, I mean, how does the athletic director save his job? And you know, our listeners know, I'm a Michigan fan, but if you knew about this, how do you keep your job?
Graham:It's with all things that are high profile. How many high profile you know, managers, corporate owner, you know, corporate people know things they're just like, hey, we need to keep this under the rug. I mean, in all things, I mean, we're not political and we're not going down that road, but I'm just saying, like, people have bad information on a lot of other people, and they do whatever they can to keep it under wraps. Like it there, I just you know, to save a program, if people feel that inclined that this person is who's gonna lead us down the right path, they'll say and do anything to protect the shield and the shield of their school, the shield of their company, and therefore, I I just look, it's one of those things where it's just like, okay, you hear rumors, all right. Maybe if you find out information and you do find out it is true, you're just like, well, if no one else knows about it, maybe I just shouldn't tell anyone, and we'll just sweep it under the rug. Look, you can only sweep things under the rug for so long, and then you know, things might get out. And in this day and age, especially with technology and especially with what I was just saying, everyone wanting their 15 minutes of fame, like you can't hide anything. Like, you just really can't.
Scott:The funny thing was when he offered the season tickets to those girls, she was like, dude, I'm rich. I don't need your season tickets, I can buy my own tickets.
Graham:When you told me this the other night, I asked you point blank, I'm like, why would girls want season tickets to a college football season? Like, that just regardless if they could pay for them or not, like who would want like, yeah, there's girls that are fans of football. I mean, like, I get that, but that's not something that I'd be like, oh, let me just dangle this for you and be like, oh yeah, I I want that so bad. Please, here, let me take it. What? Huh? Dude. No, I I just I uh so that's something when you hear it, you're like, that can't be true. You know, I look at this point, how can he save face? Obviously, apologizing. Like, I'm I'm not saying he's getting his job back. I or not a job back. I'm not saying he's gonna get a job anytime soon, at what level, college, division, whatever. I'm just saying, like, when you get dragged through the mud, as an individual, at some point, you have to stick up for yourself and say, hey, I messed up. I realize the situation, and I gotta take it on the chin. You know, the only way that you can come back is you have to repent. I mean, everyone says, you know, we're all about giving second chances. Well, you gotta lay down first. Um, well, let me let me take that back.
Scott:You can you gotta follow the sword. He blew his second chance opportunity with the way he reacted after the situation. A thousand percent. If he's getting fired for that situation and acts like a normal human being, you know what? He's got relationships. He's got Harbaugh, that's his boy, he's got other people out there that are head coaches. You're relying on your relationships to give him a chance to be uh whatever on their team, and then maybe you work your way back into the system.
Graham:What happened after? Yeah, you're gonna have a cool-off period. Yeah, like forever. Yeah. I mean, I mean, look, he's still young, so or young enough. You know, if he took a 10-year hiatus, possibly. It look, it's just it's bad all around. It's bad for the wife, it's bad for the kids, yeah, it's bad for him.
Scott:That's the thing that sucks, dude. It's bad. Not only that, it's bad for his assistant coaches. Yeah, it's bad for everybody in the in the building because who's gonna come in and be the next head coach? They're probably not gonna be on the staff. Yeah, it just sucks, dude. You know, it's just as bad as I'm about to get beat by Maddie in fantasy football, and I outscored him in the regular season by a thousand points, and the Vikings forgot who Tony or Justin Jefferson was, and Dak and Pickens. I mean, whatever.
Graham:Was he the sixth seed?
Scott:Shit, he was.
Graham:So this so the sixth seed who'd made the playoffs out of an eight-team league.
Scott:Yeah. Yeah. Yep. My three-peat run is over. But the sixth seed went into the ship, it's still intact.
Graham:I'm gonna tell you right now, if Matty wins the championship, I'm quitting that league.
Scott:All right, hey TP, you heard it. You're replacing Graham next year. Like, um, anyhow, yeah, it's a bummer, dude. It's it's a it's a sad situation for all of it. And the crazy thing is, which is funny, and I didn't really think about this until I was I forget who I was talking to. You know, when Penn State fired Franklin and they started losing all their recruits that had signed, right? Michigan's only lost one guy. And I'm like, why is Michigan only losing one guy? And I heard it and they said point blank, nobody signed with Michigan because of Sharon Moore. They signed with Michigan because of the helmet in the school.
Graham:I mean, is that surprising?
Scott:Not really. But what's surprising is I don't know who the heck goes is gonna be. It's this late in the game. I mean, I really think it's gonna be Jed Fish from Washington. That's who I think it's gonna be. Uh, you know, going into I think yesterday, betting odds, everybody had De Boer from Alabama as number one. That ain't happening. Uh, but I don't know, dude. I I don't know. But, you know, enough about this, enough about that. Week this week's NFL matchups were sick. We had some great matchups. Bills, Patriots, Packers, Broncos, Chargers, Chiefs, even though you shit on them.
Announcer:I didn't shit on them.
Scott:I just Lions, Lions, Rams. I mean, and let's not forget, old man Rivers, bro. Coming out of retirement, heading into Seattle as like a 13 and a half point dog.
Graham:14.
Scott:Whatever. But, dude, it was a great day of football.
Graham:It was.
Scott:You know, uh, I mean, the Saints, the Saints beating the Panthers, and like I told you last night, you wanted the you wanted to take the Panthers in some bet. I'm like, dude, you can't trust the Panthers right now. This is the first game in how many years that the pressure's on them after Tampa shit the bed Thursday night. And dude, what happened? It happened.
Graham:But yeah, I mean I still think I would have covered the tease. I'm not a hundred percent.
Scott:No, you had the Panthers, I think.
Graham:Mine are no because the Panthers weren't favored that much. So if you take a seven-point tease, I don't think they were four. I probably still would have lost, but I mean, what killed my tease was you know, the second game your household was super excited about, uh, that Colts Seahawks game. I I just dude. You know, a couple of things. One, the only reason why, you know, when at the start of the show, when we when I was talking about, oh, you know, I I didn't get up, so I didn't see the Panthers plus four and a half. Yeah. So they would have because they lost by three, right? Yeah. Yeah. So I mean it would have look, I thought that the Chiefs game was the the second game, you know, in that four o'clock window East Coast time. So that's why I like I'll be honest, like, I'm watching the games. When I first put it on, I thought I put it on red zone. It wasn't. I put it on because you know, with the YouTube TV that you you can do the multivision. I had like the four games going on. I didn't realize that was the four games, not the red zone. I'm like, all of a sudden, I'm looking at the bottom ticker, and I was like, wait a minute, where'd this other game come from? And I realized I wasn't on red zone. I was like, Switch, and then I start and then I started watching the Colts game as well. And I'm just like, look, kudos to the Colts. They don't have Sauce Gardner. We knew the Colts had a pretty good defense, but for them to come to Seattle, regardless of the river situation, regardless, I'm just talking about the defense. The defense held Seattle and that I don't I almost said prolific, but that very good offense to no touchdowns. They had six field goals to win the game. What hold on? What?
Announcer:Insane, dude.
Scott:I agree.
Graham:In Seattle. Look, Rivers did what he had to do. I mean, if there was one bet that I should have taken and didn't think about it, what do you think before the game started? What do you think rush attempts were for Jonathan Taylor? 40? If you had to bet it, the over like his rush attempt.
Scott:He only had 25.
Graham:That's insane because he had 18 in the first half.
Scott:16 in the first half. My whole thing was, you know, I got the free bet, and I told you I bet it on Rivers two plus touchdown passes. Yeah. He throws that one in the first, and I'm like, let's go. And dude, I'm just telling you, you know, we're everybody in the Wasco house is fired up. Chargers beat the Chiefs. And we're also as fired up as dude, we get to see Rivers again. It was weird. It was weird. Like hearing them call his name, and it was like, is this real right now? Yeah. And the the best part was I'm literally on FaceTime with Trevor and Rob as they're leaving Arrowhead, and Rob's got the Colts game on, and we all watched Rivers throw that touchdown pass together. It was unbelievable, dude. Yeah. Unbelievable. It was sick. And I don't know if you saw Rivers his press conference after the game. Dude's in dudes in tears. Yeah. And he's and he's like, Am I dumb? Am I stupid? I just wanted another shot. Like, dude. And then the video on Instagram where the team he coaches in high school reacts to his touchdown pass.
Graham:I mean, chills. Insane. Absolutely insane.
Scott:It was wild, dude. I mean, I got a question that I gotta ask. Where is it?
Graham:He didn't look bad. I mean, look, he just got there. He just got there. He missed that third down to the wide receiver that he threw it up for. I don't I don't know if it would have been a touchdown, but it would have been a long completion. The wide receiver turned around late and didn't even look for the ball, and it was just like bloop. It just plopped like five feet away from him. If you would have just like paid attention, I'm like, oh my god. Wow.
Scott:So I mean so, and I'm gonna put this on the ball guy's Instagram. Let's go for a poll question. What was this coolest storyline of week 15? Rivers? End of a Chiefs dynasty?
Graham:There's only one answer.
Scott:Rivers.
Graham:It's Rivers.
Scott:Dude, the whole world. Dude, people were texting me after that touchdown pass. Couldn't tell you. Last time I talked to him. It was awesome. It was sick. Yeah. Just the fact that he made it out of the game without getting hurt was amazing.
Graham:Yeah.
Scott:Because everybody's like, oh, he's gonna get hurt. He's gonna get hurt. I mean, his betting total for passing attempts was 25 and a half. My guy won some bets at 27. Let's go, Philippe. Let's go.
Graham:I didn't even realize he threw that much. Wow.
Scott:Yeah. He was 18 for 27 for 120. One tutty, one interception. I mean, that ain't bad for a dude that's 44. He ain't played a game in a long time.
Graham:I you ain't right. You ain't wrong. You ain't wrong.
Scott:I mean, Ava's boyfriend was over today and he's like, why did Rivers get signed? And I'm like, dude, you obviously are young and you don't realize it. Dude, Steichen is his best friend. You know, Rivers and Steichen talk every week. Rivers has Steichen's offense for his high school team. Steichen was his quarterback coach and offensive coordinator in San Diego. Nobody knows his offense better than Rivers. And like we said last week, it ain't about the head part, it's about the physical part. Oh, for sure. And it was sick, dude. It was awesome. I don't is he gonna play the next three weeks? I don't know. I hope.
Graham:What why wouldn't he?
Scott:You would think so.
Graham:You don't bring him in not to play him the rest of the season. Come on.
Scott:You have to, right? You have to.
Graham:You have to. It's not even close.
Scott:Something else funny I saw about the whole Rivers thing coming back. Dude, so your last game as an NFL player, you get health insurance for the next five years. And we all know Rivers has like 37 kids. Well, he came back and played today. So guess what? My boy's got another five years. Let's go. Insurance.
Graham:Is that any good? Now, does he qualify for comeback player of the year?
Scott:That's a great question.
Graham:Folks, if you could see his face right now. Wow.
Scott:My boy Phillip. Dude, Graham, that might be the best question you've asked all year.
Graham:Got out of the wheelchair and said, Alright, guys, I got you. Let me let me shake off this rust.
Scott:I mean, it was fun. Dude, like I said, oh god, the Vikings are like who would have thought the Vikings? Oh, did he fumble it or was he down? He was down. Was he?
Graham:I'm glad I didn't touch this game. I thought for sure Dallas had something in control. I thought light him up, dude. What what make it make sense? A lot of these games. Yeah. I mean, speaking of, I mean, I don't want to say make it make sense, but look, we already talked a little bit about, you know, the injury with Mahomes. There was some other big injuries out there today.
Scott:I mean, but real real quick, real quick before we get off this topic. Uh there was somebody that was blasting the Colts decision on signing. Actually, not somebody. Somebodies. Okay. A lot of people were blasting the Colts for signing Rivers. And beating the bookie, the dude that I've blasted on this show before. Dude, he said something today.
Announcer:I saw it.
Scott:Ryan Clark. Okay, it was him and Cam Newton were two of the biggest people that were blasting the Colts for sign in Rivers. Cam Newton's like, oh, my phone didn't even ring. That's because you're probably too busy figuring out what fucking hat to wear that day. Uh, but being a bookie. Ryan Clark, is it disrespectful and detrimental to the game that Rivers engineered a potential game-winning drive at Seattle?
Graham:I mean exactly. Exactly. I you know, I'm not gonna defend the comments made by Ryan Clark. What I will say is this when it comes to sports talk, you know, on all the shows, you have to have people to defend both sides. You have to have a heel. Like you can't just have a segment where everyone is just throwing flowers to one side, right? It's just it's not good television. So do I think his comments were a little out of touch? Yes. Am I defending what he said? Absolutely. Am I saying that it's good TV that he said it? No. But I'm also saying that it doesn't surprise me that someone said it. Um I I and it also doesn't surprise me that he was the person that said it because he is someone that tends to be outspoken. So I I mean it's look, what is media? It's all for clicks.
Scott:TP hit the nail on the head at the end of the Colt Seahawks game. He goes, Rivers getting the ball back with two minutes and 20 seconds left for a game-winning drive. You can't make this up.
Graham:And he took him down the field. The homeboy hit a 60-yard field goal. You know?
Scott:I don't know. I mean, Cam Newton, you know, maybe the greatest college quarterback of all times. Maybe you should have tried to get that fumble in the Super Bowl against the Broncos instead of bitching out. Maybe somebody would have called you. Show a little heart, bro. You know, like they always say, the ball don't lie. Neither does the film.
Graham:Yeah. Split second decisions can change your life.
Scott:Yeah, just ask for a little more. Uh boom, my man. Dude, uh Patriots bills, we chatted about it earlier. Dude, Patriots go up 21 to nothing, dude. And you're like, oh my god, is this really happening? Dude, they're down 24 to 7 at halftime, and then get out scored 28 to 7 in the second half.
Graham:Yeah, that's because the MVP decided to show up. Oh, that staffer does not play for the Bills, bro. Wow. I'm saying the current MVP of the league.
Scott:Oh, that was current. You mean past tense? Past that was last year.
Graham:Hey, you're still the MVP until it's the next person. I'm just saying, you're still the champ until you get beat. Am I wrong? Hey, what was that money line bed at halftime? Dude.
Scott:Oh. I wish I would have known. Good God almighty. I just I kind of like that Tampa, Tampa Falcons game the other night when they're up 14 with eight minutes left or whatever.
Announcer:Oh my god, right.
Scott:But dude, Bill's a game back with three left.
Graham:Yeah, but the problem is the Patriots, their games that they have left. Jets, Miami, and one other team. I can't remember who it is, but it's just like they most likely are gonna win out. Um and the worst part is even if they finish, even if they lose and they finish in a tie, I think the Patriots I'd have to look on what their tiebreakers are. I don't know what their record is against the AFC. You know what I mean?
Scott:Like that's well, the Broncos are in the tiebreaker against them.
Graham:No, but Patriots are the Raiders. No, I'm saying the division. If they tie for the division, because they split, obviously, but then it comes down to whoever has the most division wins. Patriots at the Ravens next week. That's the game, yeah.
Scott:Then at the Jets, then the Dolphins at the Patriots.
Graham:Yeah. So best case scenario, they lose to the Ravens, they'll win the other two, and then at that point, if the Bills win out, it just comes down to division record. And then after division, if it's tied, then it will come down to division or the record within the AFC. So, you know, a lot of things can happen.
Scott:Broncos are three and one in the division, Patriots three and one in the division.
Graham:What are the Bills in the division?
Scott:Bills are three and two in the conference. Denver seven and two in the conference, Patriots six and three, Jacksonville seven and two, Pittsburgh six and three, Chargers are eight and two in the conference.
Graham:The Bills lose to Miami? Oh my god.
Scott:Dude, the Bills lost to the Falcons. Remember that?
Graham:Yeah. Yeah, I know. I remember I lost uh a lot of money on that game.
Scott:And they lost to the Dolphins, too.
Graham:That's what I'm saying. That loss to the Dolphins cost them a division.
Scott:So if And the Texans.
Graham:If the Bills I don't want to rephrase this, if the the Patriots have to win two of three. If they go one and three, they're out the division. So I I mean, look. Bills are a scary team. Home or away right now. I I mean I've i it's not an easy matchup. I'm not saying I would avoid them, but I mean you're not as scared as you were of them in the past, but Bill's got the Browns next week. Then host the Eagles. Yeah. Then host the Jets. Yeah. You know, speaking of one of those teams you just talked about. The Cleveland Browns. I hate giving that team flowers, but game recognizes game, and you gotta give respect where respect is due. You know I'm a TJ Watt guy, and I've been pounding my chest for him all these years against Miles Garrett, but if Miles Garrett doesn't win defensive player of the year this year, that man after this after this week is one sack away from tying the record.
Scott:He had one and a half today.
Graham:Yeah. He's one away. He's at 21 and a half. It's 22 and a half. It should have been 23, but TJ got screwed regardless. Yeah. Whatever's whatever. He has three games left. One of them is against us.
Scott:When TJ got the record, was that before we went to 17 game season? I think it was before.
Graham:I think it was before.
Announcer:Well, no.
Graham:This would have been 2020. Well, he was drafted in 18, I believe. So, or 18 or 17. So this it wasn't right away. It was like 21, 22, something in there. Um, so I think it was at 17 games. But yeah, I mean, look, that extra game obviously helps comparative to the records in the past, but still, even with that extra game, Garrett could get another four sacks. Like, he could easily finish with 26 and a half, 27 sacks.
Scott:Oh, I thought they were showing him miss another one. That was just a replay of it. I'm like, oh my god, he missed another one.
Graham:Like, I'm just, I'm, you know, it's just like when you watch, and the thing is, look, at the start of a season, he asked for a trade. He didn't want to be there. He wants to win. Then the organization was just like, hey, do you like a whole bunch of money? We're gonna give you a whole bunch of money, and a lot of it's gonna be guaranteed. So then they threw it at him. He played a bunch of games, he got some sacks, but then he's like, Oh, you know, I I'd really like to win. Bro, you took the money, you stayed there. My point in saying that is you will still have your legacy, right? And especially if you get these sacks. If you go down as the all-time sack leader in a single season, you're minted, as they say. I mean, look. The last Browns player to make the Hall of Fame, you know who it is?
Scott:I mean it's last Browns player to make the Hall of Fame.
Graham:Yeah.
Scott:Oh, yeah, the lineman.
Graham:Yeah.
Scott:Joe Thomas.
Graham:Okay, yeah.
Scott:Yeah.
Graham:He didn't have one winning season. And he's still one of their best players of all time. I mean, it's just one of those things where it's just like you as an individual I mean, look, football is a team sport. I get that. But it's just like you want the recognition from your teammates and the league that, like, hey, I was a great player, congratulations, like, I made the Hall of Fame. But but let me ask you this. Would you rather, would you like to have a career where you make the Hall of Fame, but yet you were on a team that never made the never had a winning season? Or only had one or two winning seasons, made the playoffs once? It's a hard question. I mean, right? I want to win. Right.
Scott:As a competitor, but Joe Thomas is one of the greatest to ever play the position.
Graham:That's what I'm saying.
Scott:Like he was a beast. You feel for the guy.
Graham:Yeah. And that's and look, I mean, and my point in saying all this is Miles Garrett knew what he was getting into, and it is what it is. So if that is the case, then just go out and ball and do what you do, and that's what he's doing.
Scott:So, I mean, they got they got boat race today, too. Too many crickets.
Graham:Oh, the weather's gonna be bad tomorrow. I don't know. Dude, I turn on the TV, I'm like, it's clear skies out there.
Scott:Yeah, but it was like 12 degrees. Oh man.
Announcer:Oh my god.
Scott:Anyhow, I just gave the congrats text to Maddie. I was like, good win, congrats. Hope you continue the trend of the sixth seed winning it all.
Graham:Oh man. I hope you continue the trend of being drunk and kicking me out of your condo. He isn't drinking anymore, you know that. No, no, no.
Scott:Uh dude, Packers Broncos. Awesome game. Dude, the Packers were laying the wood, and then all of a sudden Broncos start coming back, and Micah injured too.
Graham:Yeah, but wasn't there comeback kind of after um Kristen Watson? Did he come back in the game? I saw him get hurt. I haven't I have no idea. Yeah, I don't know if he came back or what the deal with that was. I'm just like, when I saw him go down, I was like, oh, that's not good. And then with Micah going down, I mean, dude, you saw the replay, right? Oh, he's done. Yeah, that's yeah, he's done.
Scott:He's done.
Graham:I mean, it was the same thing with Mahomes. When I saw that replay, I was like, oh yeah, that's that's ACL. He's done. Uh dude.
Scott:Dude, the Packers Dude, the Packers at halftime, it was 16 to 14. You know, and then they went up and scored, and it was just like, wow. Bo Nicks actually played some ball today.
Graham:Yeah.
Scott:I told you last night, what did I tell you? Broncos are gonna beat the shit out of the Packers. Jordan Love. I said, I said Jordan Love always what? Crumbles against a good defense.
Graham:And yeah, but if Micah Parsons doesn't get hurt, they he didn't crumble.
Scott:He had two picks.
Graham:Yeah, but that one, Sertan, that was a hell of a play.
Scott:Dude, Bo Nix had four tutties. I hate to say it. The crazy thing is though, RJ Harvey got a little banged up that scary for the Broncos.
Announcer:Yeah.
Graham:But I don't know, dude. I mean, I was gonna say between that game, dude, the NFC is kind of up there. I mean, the other game of the afternoon was the Rams Detroit. That was a slug fest going back and forth. But, you know, your boy Devontae Adams tweaking his hamstring. That's no good. Who knows what that type of injury is gonna be? Puka got banged up a little bit.
Scott:I think the Rams, Rams play the Seahawks Thursday night. Yeah.
Graham:So that's that's what I'm saying. It's just like key injuries to a lot of these teams, especially the NFC, who are you liking now in the NFC? Well, I said it last week, you know, Rams and Seattle are the class of the NFC.
Scott:But after watching Old Man Rivers stand tall today against Seattle, uh I think it's finally time for I think it's finally yeah, I agree. I think it's finally time for me to go ahead and say the Rams. Dude, they've got weapons everywhere. They roll out with their three tight ends in one formation. They have Puka. Losing Devontae is gonna hurt. You know, uh Devontae is their red zone target. We all know that. Yeah. But uh their defense is sick. You know, granted, I mean, today the Lions jumped on them early. You know, it was 24-17 in halftime. Yeah, and then what happened? The Rams outscored them 27 to 10 in the second half.
Announcer:I was shocked by that.
Graham:I thought the Lions were gonna come out a little bit more aggressive in the second half. I just, I mean, look, St. Brown had a great first half, still did it, you know, he did some in the second half, but I just I don't know. I some of it was the play calling. They didn't run the ball enough in the second half, I thought. I just you know, look, they're out of the division race. They're the Lions are trying to do a wild card. Who do you think? Yeah, well, hey, they got a good win next week coming up, so hopefully.
Scott:I mean, how about how about the Niners, bro? 10 and 4.
Graham:Yeah, well, like we said at the start of the season, have you seen their schedule?
Scott:Have you seen their injuries?
Graham:Yeah, but you can my my point even better. If they weren't injured, they could be what 14 and 1 right now? 13 and 1? Like, let's be real. It's look, what have we always said? It's not the best team, it's the healthiest team. And coming down the stretch, you want to play your best football when? In December and going into January. So, all that being said, you know, some things are gonna get shuffled up here in the next couple weeks, and I'm very excited and curious to see what happens. You know, uh a lot's gonna happen, and who knows? I mean, just imagine if you know the Bears keep winning.
Scott:10 and 4.
Graham:Right? Trevor Lawrence, best game ever in the NFL today? Well, I mean, yeah. They play the Jets.
Scott:Like, let's I mean who cares, dude? They're still professionals. Do they get paid? Do they get paid?
Graham:Okay, that's like no no no no no no. Hold on a second. That's like saying, Um, I don't know, did uh Texas University play week one, you know, Aberleen Christian? Yeah, they're they're a team, they're a college team.
Scott:No, they actually didn't. They played Ohio State week one.
Graham:Well, I'm not saying I'm just saying in general this year.
Scott:I'm just uh dude, but anyhow, give credit where people are trying to say. I've I've dogged Trevor Lawrence. Like I had 330 yards today and five tutties.
Graham:Bro, they paid him the money.
Scott:ETN said, I won a national championship with this guy, and I've never seen him play like he did today. ETN had three receiving touchdowns today.
Graham:Yeah, he's not bad. Look, like I just said 15 seconds ago, there was a reason they paid him all that money. And it's about time that he's finally showing the organization why they paid him the money.
Scott:Yeah, I'm missing it goes back to a debate, or not a debate, something we talked about last week. Coach of the year. Liam Cohen. Or it's it's or homeboy from the Bears.
Graham:It's still Ben Johnson. I mean, although Cohen has done more with less.
Scott:Dude. I I it's a debate. I mean, Ben Johnson's gonna win it. We know that.
Graham:But but if Cohen wins a division.
Scott:Ben Johnson didn't lose his first round draft pick.
Graham:I don't remember who their first round draft pick was. Come on, guy. That dude from Colorado. Oh. Okay, sorry. Um I'm thinking of something else. Yeah, Travis Hunter. All right. Congratulations. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right. You're right.
Scott:Dude, Lawrence had 51 yards rushing and a rushing touchdown. So he was he had five passing and one rushing.
Graham:So we did okay, is what you're saying.
Scott:Yeah, he had a pretty good game. If you started him in fancy today, you probably won your matchup, unless you started Pickens and Justin Jefferson. Uh anyhow, uh, we got the Steelers hosting the Dolphins tomorrow night. Uh looked like a lot of snow in Pittsburgh. And in fact, when I talked to Grammar Police yesterday, he got sent home from work because of the snow in Pittsburgh. I actually saw some videos of the Dolphins practicing in the snow.
Graham:What do you think, dude? What do you think? What? I mean, I should be not looking what I'm looking at. Um, do you know you don't watch movies, but famed director, he also acted a little bit, Rob Reiner, famous producer. Anyway, him and his wife found dead in their LA home from a knife wound. Wow. Sorry, that was completely off topic. Yeah, I was just like, what? Left turn. Tomorrow night. I just look, we haven't brought any of this up. We didn't really talk about the sales until right now, but look, TJ Watt. Yeah. What happened? He got Tyrod tailored. After Tyrod got Tyrodd, how as an organization do you let that happen to your players? I mean, look, am I happy that he's out of the hospital? He's recovering, he's doing like that's great. Is there a small part of me that was just like, this happened to a guy that we just paid all that money? Um, not the right thing to say. But also, is it something that, I mean, who knows based off what's gonna happen with our team, if we're even gonna have him on our team next year, with how the organization's gonna move based on this, that, and the other. That's we've talked about that in length in previous episodes. I I look, no TJ. That sucks. I still like High Smith, I still like Herbig, I still like the other pieces we have on the defense. Um, look, I saw a little report. I mean, there was something that was saying like DK Metcalf might not play tomorrow.
Scott:What? What's wrong with him?
Graham:I don't know. I that's what I'm saying. I haven't heard anything that dude, all this fake media, who knows? Who knows with what I'm seeing from sports outlets if it's true or not? Uh look, Pittsburgh, you said it earlier, 21-0, Monday night football at home. At home. That's amazing. Mike Tomlin's record against the Miami Dolphins, not so good. Especially in Pittsburgh, and especially some of those losses have been in prime time as well. They've been Sunday night games. Like, I just Miami coming off a bye. I'm not. Is this a game that I think we should win? A hundred percent. Yes. But what's the line? Three.
Scott:I mean, I I I just I I mean So TP sent me this earlier, and I wasn't gonna bring it up until you started bagging on my chargers.
Graham:But now that you did that, I wasn't bagging your chargers.
Scott:Oh, you were.
Graham:No, I wasn't.
Scott:Last time Tomlin won a playoff game, Maeve was with the Commanders, Todd Gurley was second in VP voting, Mahomes was not in the NFL, Obama was still the president, and Pat McAfee was still punting for the Colts.
Graham:Okay, and your point? I don't know. Something we've brought up multiple times in the previous episodes. Look, you already know how I feel. We're gonna backdoor our way into the playoffs. I'm not gonna be happy. We if who's gonna be the five seed? You? Do I want to play the Chargers in Pittsburgh in the playoffs?
Scott:As of right now, we're the five seed.
Graham:That's what I'm saying. That's not gonna put a smile on my face playing you guys in the playoffs. That's a lose-lose for me. Because if Pittsburgh wins, we're not that good, and then the Chargers lose, and you're not happy, and I'm not happy. If the Chargers win, my team loses, but they I don't feel that they should have made the playoffs anyway. Like, I like you know, we're not good enough to win at all. But for not having won a playoff game, will I take it? A hundred percent. Yeah. I mean I I mean it's just I don't want to have to like I don't it's not like I feel bad thing. I just like to get revenge against how you whooped our ass at SoFi would would feel good. I'd I'll say a little bit of that. Yeah, of course. You know what I mean? Like getting revenge would definitely help, but we're not doing anything in the second round. We're just getting later draft picks than we would before.
Scott:So my whole thing is the Chargers defense is ridiculous. Okay, we're playing our asses off. Okay, Jesse Minter doing what he's doing with these guys is insane. We allowed one touchdown last week against the Super Bowl champion Eagles, one touchdown today. But and like I said, when we're sitting here watching the game when everybody's over here, imagine Chargers defense is finally amazing, and we can't do anything on offense. I mean, our offense was terrible. I mean, you know, I mean, we got no offensive line, dude. And finally, in the second half, in the end of the first half, we started doing what? Quick passes. Boom, boom, boom. And it was a it was good. And but dude, I'm scared for Herbert going up against the Texans in week 17 and the Broncos in week 18.
Graham:Are also maybe.
Scott:Have you seen the Broncos rest of their season schedule?
Graham:Yeah, no, you're right. I mean, if they're if they're if they're fighting for the one seed, too.
Scott:I mean, against the Yeah, that's the whole thing, dude.
Graham:It's like, I mean, I don't know. Hold hold on a second. Can we take a step back here and just reflect on what I just said? If I would have told you at the beginning of the season that the Patriots and the Broncos are gonna be fighting for the number one seed, what would you have said?
Scott:Well, I totally the Broncos or the Patriots were gonna win their total wins, but one seed, no. Dude, the Broncos.
Graham:Yeah, their total wins is getting 10 wins.
Scott:No, it was over eight and a half for the Patriots.
Graham:Even better.
Scott:Dude, the Broncos host the Jaguars next week. Not gonna be an easy game. They play at the Chiefs on Christmas.
Graham:That's now a win. Yeah. And then host us. And you guys will want to play tough because I know you guys would rather play us than any of the other teams, that's for sure. I mean Well, the three seed would be Jacksonville. Yeah. Yeah.
Scott:You guys are the as right now, you're the four seed at seven and six.
Graham:Yeah.
Scott:Buffalo's the sixth seed at ten and four, and the Texans the seventh seed at nine and five.
Graham:Wow, so you guys are f please, I don't want to play Buffalo again. Please win out. Dude.
Scott:And how about this? NFC, Rams one, Bears two, Eagles three, Tampa's four at seven and seven, Seattle five, eleven and three, Niners six, ten and four, Packers seven, nine, four, and one.
Graham:Yeah. Lions ain't even in the playoffs. I mean, when you got a division that you only have to be 500 to make the playoffs.
Scott:I mean, I thought Carolina was gonna win today. I thought Carolina was gonna win it eight.
Graham:Dude, but they I don't want to say they had it in the bag. They were up. Yeah. And then the juju voodoo, whatever down there came out of nowhere and was just like, gotcha. The Saints have beaten the Panthers twice this year. That's disgusting. That's their fourth win.
Scott:We talked about it last week. The Panthers are so Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. Like, what team's gonna show up? The team that beat the Rams? And the Packers? And the Packers?
Announcer:Yeah.
Scott:I mean, Panthers dropped 10 to 7 at halftime. And 17 to 10. Whatever. I mean. The thing that sucks the most about that is your bet with Andy. Fuck.
Graham:All I can h and the worst part is now I have no faith that Jets are gonna go in there and get that dub next week.
Scott:Oh, they're playing each other next week, aren't they?
Graham:Yeah. Oh man. I have to hope the Jets the Jets have to win that game for us to tie. Because now he has a one he's one game up. Well, potentially tie. I mean, who knows what the rest of the I mean hey. I'll lose that bet if I beat him in fantasy. That's it's yeah, like I don't care. Dude I've looked if I would have realized that the Jets would have lost, I don't know, their best wide receiver, their running back for most of the season, their defense got hurt, their offensive line, their quarterback.
Scott:I mean they traded away sauce, they traded away numbness, they're Calco.
Graham:That's what I'm saying. It's just like, you know, hindsight being 2020, it's just like I would think I'm doing better in this aspect where it's just like they got rid of everyone and they got crushed, and I'm only a game behind. So like that just says your team sucks more, Andy, so suck it.
Scott:Dude, as of right now, where is it? Let's see, draft. Let's look at it. Draft for next year.
Graham:Um, who has the number one overall pick? The Raiders, I think. What the fuck?
Scott:Dude, that poor kid from Indiana's gonna go to the Raiders. Stay in school, bro.
Graham:Dude, a new coach, a new organ, like Tom Brady's gonna say something, they're gonna get it together. Uh have an opportunity to play indoors half the time. More than half, because they play the Chargers. You know what I mean? Like, I that's not a bad situation.
Scott:Mendoza from Indiana going to the Jets. Dante Moore from Oregon.
Graham:Yeah, it's between Jets and the Raiders for number one right now. Yeah. Did it surprise you that he won over Pavia?
Scott:If you look at their numbers, yes. Yeah. If you look at their numbers, a hundred percent. Yeah.
Graham:Must be nice being 13-0, beating the number one team and winning the winning the conference.
Scott:But if you look at what homeboy from Vanderbilt did after the Heisman presentation, oh the right person won.
Graham:Oh, dude. Blasted the voters, blasted everybody. Not good. Not a good look at all. But make it make sense.
Scott:Like, dude, before you hit send on that social media shit, think about what you're doing. Talk about it with my son all the time. As soon as you hit send, you never get it back. Yeah. And I don't know. Graham. You got a game tomorrow night? Chargers beat the Chiefs. Swept them. Love it. We're 5-0 in the division. Uh we got a fun episode coming up with a special guest in a couple days. Can't wait to get it out there and let everybody listen to it. We won in Survivor. I got beat in ESPN League. Whatever. Survivor, baby.
Graham:Let's go. Me, you, and Audrey. We're going to win this shit. Let's go. Let's go. It's happening.
Scott:It's happening. Need need that. It's happening. Let's go, baby. Baby, baby. Graham, get us an hour and 17 minutes in this episode. Jiminy Crickets.
Graham:Yeah, I'm going to cut some fluff out. Don't worry. Yeah, we can talk all night.
Scott:Just ask the girls. Woo! Uh anyhow. Once again, it's an hour and 17 minutes into the show. Haven't been Melissa Stark. She was actually indoors tonight in Dallas, so she didn't have all those jackets on and stuff. If you don't know, now you know.
Graham:Baby.
Scott:Yeah. Uh Graham, get us out of here. Rob, Trevor. So happy for you guys that you went to Arrowhead and got that dub. So happy. Uh, I got a good story for you after we finish recording this from Trevor. Uh really pumped the most like Trevor. I said to Trevor, I was like, I'm so glad you guys got the one or got the win. And Trevor's like, best moment of my life. I'm like, well, you're a college kid. I'm like, your dad fired up as one of my favorite things ever. And dude, it was awesome. But anyhow, Graham, get us out of here.
Graham:Scott, it is always a pleasure doing the podcast with you. And hey, as the best homie always says, boom by.
Scott:Good night, friends. Good night, Andy Reed. Good night, Kermit. Good night, Chris Jones. Good night, Travis Kelsey. Good night, Chiefs. What do they call it? Kingdom. Uh remember that taps thing that that dude sent me? I sent it to him again tonight. No response. You're welcome.
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