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Stanley Cup Finals Madness

Graham Cohen and Scott Wasco Season 1 Episode 203

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Recorded June 7th, 2024 

A four-goal lead with 13 minutes left should be a cruise control win, right? Not in this Stanley Cup Final. We come in hot on the Golden Knights vs Hurricanes chaos, from lightning-fast goals and blown leads to reviews that change the entire mood of a building. By the time it hits double overtime, we’re not just talking strategy and matchups, we’re talking about what playoff sports does to your sleep, your stress levels, and your ability to speak without jinxing your own team.

We also zoom out to the golf world because the nerves don’t stop at the rink. The Memorial Tournament at Jack Nicklaus place gives us pressure swings, a playoff finish, and the moment everyone replayed all weekend: Scottie Scheffler laying into caddie Ted Scott after a number goes wrong. That turns into a real conversation about why elite players snap, how putting can humble the best ball-strikers on the planet, and why you can’t expect anyone to win every week even when they’re world No. 1. Then we hit the US Women’s Open at Riviera, where Nelly Korda and Charley Hull remind us that a “short putt” is only short in theory until a major title is on the line.

Finally, we jump to the NBA Finals with Knicks vs Spurs, where the contrast is everything: New York’s poise and late-game execution versus San Antonio’s youth, talent, and a few mistakes that only show up under the brightest lights. We talk Jalen Brunson’s clutch runs, what one inbound can do to a series, and the jaw-dropping Madison Square Garden ticket prices that have everyone doing math they don’t want to do.

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Finals Fever Right Away

Graham

Welcome to another episode of the Bald Guys on the Bench podcast with your hosts Graham Cohen and Scott Wasco. What's up, everyone? Welcome back to another episode of the Bald Guys on the Bench. Scotty Wah. Oh my lord. Stanley Cup playoffs are right now. How you doing? How you feeling?

Scott

It's not the playoffs, bro. It's the finals. That's what happens when there's two teams left. When there's two teams left, it's called finals. But I mean, like TP said, for my health and my rest, thank God there's not a game until Tuesday night. Because the first three games, wow. So all those people going out there saying that this was going to be the worst Stanley Cup final ever. Uh take a look at your social media platforms and look at everybody saying it's the best. And that last night could have been the greatest game in NHL history. I dude, we've had everything in the first three games. We have. We have. Right? A goal in 25 seconds. Yeah. You know, in game one. A four-goal lead blown in the third period. A two-goal lead blown in the third period. Bullshit calls, this, that, and I don't even want to, I'm not even getting into the challenging things, you know. It is what it is. Right. But a player hit in the face with the 87 mile an hour puck that plays the next day and leads his team in ice time.

Graham

Okay, it wasn't the literal next day, but whatever.

Scott

Dude, if LeBron James got hit in the face with the 87 mile an hour puck, homeboy ain't playing for five years. Any player in the NBA ain't playing for five years.

Graham

Correction, he got hit in the face guard that hit his face. It wasn't direct action. Whatever.

Scott

Homeboy had 30 stitches, Graham.

Graham

Whatever. Oh, I'm that's look. I'm not saying, you know, I I I get what you said.

Scott

Versus load management. But anyhow, before we even get into that, it's hard not to jump right in. I know. Well, it's tough. I mean, we gotta do the normal. Uh how was your weekend? What did you do? The whole drill. Oh, we don't. Oh no, sorry. I'll smack myself early.

Graham

What?

Scott

I'm so fired up and delirious from lack of sleep because of the night. I forgot the one thing. It's time to grab one and crack one, brother.

Graham

All right, let's go.

Scott

Let's go.

Graham

Can I crack a beard? We'll tell you about it.

Scott

My bad. Let's go. Cracked. Let's go. How was your weekend there, fella?

Weekend Stories And No Sleep

Graham

Uh weekend was good. Uh, you know, worked the last two days, um, got home and was just, I mean, literally got home half hour before Stanley Cup started. And, you know, look, all right, we're just talking about the weekend. I won't get into it, but it's just like all the excitement. I was ready for it. Uh, you know, there was a small part of me that wanted to drive down just to do the watch party outside the stadium. Then I realized how hot it was, and I was like, nah, I'll stay at home. So yeah, just enjoyed the games, enjoyed the Knicks game the previous night, and that's pretty much it. How was your weekend, brother?

Scott

Dude, it was great. It was fun. One of my juniors that I teach played a little junior tournament at my old club where I was a head pro at, went and played a practice round with her Friday, and she's a Keynes fan and blah blah blah talking trash from the Thursday night game. And she played well, got brand new clubs, like I was telling you. First time literally hitting them out of the dirt was Friday in the practice round. Yeah. And first round was a little suspect and didn't play that great, but then played well today on her birthday, 15th birthday, and finished, I think, 13th out of 30 something. So played pretty good. Uh, was proud of her. It's not easy putting new sticks in the bag, especially new wedges.

Graham

Yeah.

Scott

Huge. But uh pumped about that, and you know, it was Stanley Cup weekend. Watched a little G today. Stayed up way too late last night watching a hockey.

Graham

Yeah, double overtime will do that to you.

Scott

All I can say is thank God the game started at eight, whatever, and not 10, whatever. I mean, God, my boy Greg, Shane's dad from my flag team, was like, dude, I'm losing my shit, stressing. I can't even imagine having a dog in the fight. I'm like, yeah, exactly. And you know, this morning when I woke up, it was kind of wild because eight years ago today, Facebook memories, right?

Graham

Oh, yeah.

Scott

Eight years ago today, the Knights lost to the Capitals in five.

Graham

Oh, wow.

Scott

What a season. What can I say? Never thought I'd be a hockey fan. Last year, when they announced the logo, my boy Jerry Kroll and I decided to be fans. When a friend of mine was one of the 58 killed in the Vegas concert shooting, it became real. That team did wonders, wonders for the city and for everyone that lost a loved one. Can't believe I went to more Vegas night games than Targers games this past year. Thanks, Knights, for making me a hockey fan.

Graham

Deep.

Scott

Right? Deep. Yeah. Bucky, when he lived in California, would always talk hockey, and I just joke on him and this and that, and whatever. It is what it is. You know, I never had a dog in a fight. Literally, last night after the end of the first overtime, I sent TP a text and I was like, F you for making me a hockey fan.

Graham

You know, I bro. To just start off fandom in hockey and to have your team make the playoffs eight of its nine years it's been in existence and it's in its third Stanley Cup final. Who has a better run than that? Uh uh and win. And win one. So it's just like I'm chalking it up to kind of my fandom with the Pittsburgh Steelers, and my run pretty much started like right before Rothesberger became the quarterback. I mean, I had him for 18 years, and now it's just like I I mean, look, it's gonna level itself out. I'm not saying the Knights are gonna be playoff bound for the next 20 years, which I mean, if they were that'd be amazing, but it's just like it goes down to ownership and the front office. Yeah, for sure.

Scott

They're aggressive. They're aggressive, they're aggressive, they don't care. They want to get they want to win.

Graham

Yeah.

Scott

And like we said last week in the show, does that mean traden Fleury, a first ballot Hall of Famer? Does it mean Traden Waugh, who was on the Stanley Cup championship team to Toronto for Marner? Maybe. Carrier playing for the damn hurricanes right now. Dude, they ain't scared to do it. And and like Andrew Carlson, I don't know if I told you, he texted me last night. Let me find a sex. He was like, Yeah, he's a Blackhawks fan. Was there day one, and he texted me last night, he goes, Dude, your hockey team is so good, they're gonna change how expansions work because of this. Well, it is what it is. You gotta have an owner that is willing to do the thing. Yeah, you gotta have you gotta have a GM and then McPhee and then Kelly McCrimin, ESPN, who is a guy, not a girl, uh come in and do his thing. But you know, uh T Mobile, I mean, we've been there what nine years, dude? Yeah, T Mobile is now one of the hardest places to play in hockey. Yeah, dude, they literally showed a water bottle and one of the cup holders during the intro when everybody's chanting Go Nights Go, and you can see the water shaking.

Graham

I mean, it was pretty electric, I'll say that.

Scott

And then you tap that off with Carnell Golden Pipes, you know, doing the national anthem. And then, dude, and then you got the before the game, the whole theatrical shit when Vegas the night beat Mother Nature.

Graham

Yeah. I mean, they there's a lot going on.

Scott

It's a show, bro. It's a show. Well, this is Vegas, baby.

Graham

Of course it's a show.

Scott

Like, like Greg said, I mean Greg said last night, he was like, dude, I have to get to a game in Vegas. And I'm like, yes, every hockey fan does. I'm like, it's an amazing experience. Not to mention the ice girls, don't disappoint. He was dying.

Graham

But I mean, I'll I'll admit I had a great time for game one in in round two against the ducks. It was a good time. Even better that they would the place

Memorial Recap And Ricky News

Graham

rocks.

Scott

But you know, before we even start jumping in in the finals, it's you know, the memorial was held this week in Ohio, Jack's place, right? Yeah. I went out on a limb a couple weeks ago and backed it up saying Ricky was gonna get the dub. Well, no, he did not. Uh missed a cut and did a little research, dug in. He's been sick as a dog, I guess, the last four weeks.

Graham

Damn.

Scott

Yeah. Bad sinus infection that's been bad as shit and almost didn't play this week, from what I was reading. But yeah, wasn't that locked into the tournament, obviously, because Rick's out and Stanley Cup and lack of sleep, and you know, all that.

Graham

No, it makes sense. It makes sense.

Scheffler Blowup And Putting Pressure

Scott

But one thing I did notice, I don't know if it was the first round or second round, was good old Scheffler laying into good old Ted Scott, dude, for a seven iron that he hit in the water.

Graham

I mean, that was the talk of the town over the weekend.

Scott

Dude, like laid into him, like Bubba Watson style. Ted Scott's like, bro, I thought I don't work for Bubba anymore.

Graham

Well, I mean, Scheffler's just such a nice guy. I mean, it's just it's one of those like, what? Like coming out of left field, you're just like, I mean, I get it. I mean, I'm look, I'm not trying to defend Scheffler. I mean, it it happens sometimes, but in the same sense, like, do you think there's some type of frustration with Scheffler right now in the sense of how his game has been this in the first half of the season?

Scott

Dude, he's just not making putts. I mean, that's what it all comes down to.

Graham

Uh, I mean it doesn't matter if you're the number one player in the world or you're number 600. Of course it all comes down to making the putts.

Scott

I'm just saying, like it's yeah, he's got to be frustrated a little bit. But then again, you also gotta realize you ain't winning every week. The run you went on was majestic.

Graham

I I mean, I'm not expecting that. I'm just saying, like, all right, I'll sprinkle in a top five here. Oh, I'll finish 28. Oh, I'll finish, you know, 13. I mean, I'm not saying I expect him to finish top ten every week, although that's what it's sounding like. I I I don't know. Is it I mean, I'm not saying has he fallen back down to earth yet, but I mean, what do you think?

Scott

Hey, he's still winning the US Open on his birthday and Father's Day. Complete the career grand slam.

Graham

Wait, his birthday is is that Sunday?

Scott

Yeah.

Graham

Oh wow, that's my sister's birthday too.

Scott

Done. Game over. The end.

Graham

Was he three to one still?

Scott

Who knows? Who knows? But I mean, like I said, I wasn't wrapped up in this event, right? Rick's out, Stanley Cup finals, your boy is wasted. I'm spent, dude, on sleep and and stress.

Graham

And but you know all about the US Women's Open, though, right?

Scott

Yeah. That's because Charlie Hole had a chance.

Graham

My girl.

Scott

Let's go.

Memorial Finish And Playoff Drama

Scott

Um, anyhow, dude, with like three or four holes left, there were like five guys tied for the lead. And was like, wow, what is gonna happen? Right? Fleetwood makes a bogey, Burns makes a bogey on 17. Basically, it comes Poston to makes or Gerard makes a birdie on 17, drops a bomb, hoops it from God, I don't even know how far. Dude! Yeah, one shot lead going into the 70-second hole. And Poston hits it dick tight. Poston hits it a little short on the green though. And dude, Gerard hits it about five or six feet past. I'm like, oh my god, dude, this could be a two-shot swing. Oh my god. Poston makes the birdie, Gerard just steps up, boom, hoops it tied. Sick, right? Both of them, both of them uh from North Carolina. I think Poston went to Western Carolina, Gerard played at UNC. And dude, first playoff hole, they both make par. Literally identical to the 72nd hole where they hit their shots into the green. It was insane. Wow. Literally identical. And then the second playoff hole, you know, Poston three-putted and no Gerard three-putted Poston gets the dub. Huge. I mean, dude, Poston hadn't finished in the top 20 in an event all year. Literally, literally was signed up for what? You know what tomorrow is? The longest day in golf.

Graham

Yeah.

Scott

US Open. He was signed up to go play 36 holes. Guess what? He ain't doing tomorrow. Playing golf. He ain't playing golf. So pretty amazing. And you know, when you get the dub at Memorial, what do you get to do when you walk off the 70-second hole? Well, everybody gets to, but the winner is more special. You get to what?

Graham

Hug Jack? Shake his hands.

Scott

Shake hands with Jack and talk to Jack.

Graham

Yeah.

Scott

Dude, it was sick. It was cool. Uh loved it. Got the dub at the home of the greatest milkshakes ever.

The Best Milkshake Argument

Scott

We've talked about that numerous times, I know, on the show.

Graham

Can anyone get those? Or like when you play there, is that just for Yeah.

Scott

Yeah, if you're if you're playing there, because Rob, uh remember when I was with Taylor Maid, they always had the TP classics and they were amazing sights all over the country. Rob actually played at Mirfield and for the TP Classic, and he was like, dude, the hype is real.

Graham

We need to find out for real.

Scott

Dude, I mean, what does the best milkshake in the world taste like? Like on the spot right now, what's the greatest milkshake you've ever had? Oh, chocolate banana. Where? From where?

Graham

Oh, where?

Scott

Um the one that comes to mind surprisingly is You're gonna say it, and I'm gonna say that I'm gonna I this is gonna be hilarious.

Graham

If you're not it's definitely not. Uh it's actually from a restaurant. Um it was from uh it's a chain. I don't I think they're still around. They're called Houstons.

Scott

Okay, definitely not what I was thinking.

Graham

Um, I mean, there's pretty good. I mean, that or um if you have them out here, uh well, you had them in SoCal uh from Handles. It was really good too.

Scott

Yeah, I couldn't tell you the best milksite ever for me.

Graham

Yeah, I just remember just when you were a kid, when we were kids, it's just you're just like, oh my god, what is this? But I mean, dude.

Scott

I thought you were gonna say Freddy's.

Graham

Oh. Now that you say that, it's right.

Scott

I mean, I thought you were gonna say Freddy's on our eight-hour adventure to Vegas that one day to meet Badger. I was like, God dang, Graham and I stopped in where what was that? Victorville or wherever the hell no Victorville, yeah. And I was like, Freddy's has got legit. But don't know if I could say that's the best, but at that moment in my life, it was probably the best.

Graham

Oh no, they're good. I mean, they they're definitely good. That definitely slipped my mind, I'll say that.

Scott

Yeah, I was like, oh man, Graham's definitely saying Freddy's. But dude, I don't know. Good tournament. We got the Canadian Open next week, and then week after, it's time for Shinnecock.

Graham

I'm

US Women’s Open Riv Finish

Graham

excited.

Scott

Yeah, I am too.

Graham

I I'm also excited, you know, when you were talking just a little bit ago about how coming down the stretch there's like four or five guys right there. I mean, it look this event, it's it's a pretty popular event, obviously. It's nice for a change to see it come down to the wire between more than you know, two guys. I mean, it you know what I mean? It's just like it's nice seeing the drama of like, hey man, this is it. You gotta hit the best shot of your life right here and see what happens, type of thing. It's just it it's I don't say nice for a change.

Scott

I mean it's Windham Clark, yeah, one shot back. Yeah, dude, talk about lightning in a bottle. Guys regained his confidence in his putting stroke. I mean, the last three, four weeks. Dude, Fleetwood came out of nowhere today. Right. Six what did he shoot? Four under Burns, three under. Burns had a terrible bogey on 17. But I I mean, she's and let's don't forget, uh, in my opinion, the guy that is besides Gary Woodland. Gary Woodland is obviously the story of the year on the PGA tour. In my opinion.

Graham

Oh, for sure, yeah.

Scott

Uh Fitzpatrick. Not Matt, the brother. Oh, yeah? T T6 shot 700 today.

Graham

A little golf clap for him. Let's go, bro.

Scott

700 today, dude. Uh I mean, geez Louise, dude.

Graham

I mean, is this guy gonna is he gonna keep his tour card? Or like what yeah, dude. He got the dub in New Orleans with his brother. I know two-year exemption. I'm just saying, it's it yeah. I just remember him from Yeah.

Scott

The Netflix thing.

Graham

Yeah, the full swing two years ago. Yeah, and it's just I mean, dude, that's so cool. And they also look nothing alike, which is hilarious. He's 20th on FedEx right now. That's insane. How good is that? My brother won a major. I'm playing over here on the DP. Oh, let me figure it out, and then all of a sudden now we're both playing on tour. That's awesome.

Scott

Yeah, it's so it's sick. I mean, like I said, minus Gary Woodland, story of the year. Yeah.

Graham

Yeah.

Scott

Without a doubt. Uh anyhow. I don't know, dude. Uh US Women's Open at Riv. Ugh, dude. It's first time they've been there, and God, I don't even know. I don't even want to throw out a stat. I have no idea. All I saw was Charlie Hole lit it up today, and she was co-leading, and I turned it on, and Nellie Corda was tied with like four or five people playing 17, made Birdie on 17, and then had a one-shot lead playing the 72nd hole, and hit the fairway, hit the green, left her parpa. I don't know. What do you just call that? Two feet short-ish.

Graham

Three, maybe.

Scott

Dude. And then almost almost goosened it.

Graham

Block party to the left.

Scott

Almost goosened it, dude. Oh from the US Open. God, remember that? Oh my god, dude.

Graham

Oh, I still don't know. After watching that replay a few times, how did it catch the back lip? Or like when it lipped all the way back around, who what gods did she pray to for that to fall into the cup? Seriously. Like, there's no way that ball should have stayed in the hole. None.

Scott

I mean, Kristen was like, can I turn the channel? I'm like, no, we have one putt left. And I was like, oh my god.

Graham

She's like, but it's a three-footer, it's automatic.

Scott

Uh well, what happened was just asked my girl Sung Young Yoo, that was a member at Dove, about missing a short putt at the dinosaur Mission Hills in Palm Springs. She got a major win because of that.

Graham

Yeah.

Scott

It's crazy. It ain't good until it's what? Good.

Graham

Fact.

Scott

Until that ball hits the bottom of the cup, dude. Good.

Graham

Inside the leather doesn't play on tour.

Scott

Yeah, not at all. Not at all, man. But hey, Nellie Corda, dude. Charlie Hole, man. I mean, good God. She played her ass off. Right? Yeah. I mean, my girl here from Chesapeake, which uh that girls' tournament was called the Lauren Cogland Invitational. 14th. She got a good had a good finish. Riv didn't disappoint, is what it is. But it's

Stanley Cup Games One And Two

Scott

time. Stanley Cup finals. We got NBA finals. It's time to talk about it. And Tuesday night was game one, right? It was. The Stanley Cup finals.

Graham

And bada bing, bada boom, and rally.

Scott

Kane score 25-26 seconds into the game. I'm like, oh my god, here we go, right? I'm going to get a beer and telling Kristen guaranteed Carolina scores the first goal. By the time I literally sit down, it's already one to nothing. And I'm getting text messages from our food and beverage manager. Yeah, oh, oh, ho ho ho ho. I'm like, okay, whatever. It is what it is. Remember, y'all did that against Montreal game one, two. And I got boat raced. Then it's two to nothing. And her dad texts me. Oh, just checking in on you, making sure you're okay. Yeah, I'm fine. That's why you play 60 minutes. And like I responded to him, hey, good news is over one and a half in the first period covered. You're welcome. Uh Knights get one in the first period. It's two to one. And then the knights come out, dude, and with that goal in the first period, scores three in a row. Take the lead.

Graham

Then the canes score to tie it up. Going in the third period. You know, it is what it is.

Scott

Knights score. Canes score to tie it up, eight minutes or so left. And then you saw one of the greatest passes you'll ever see. To set up a hurdle.

Graham

Sick. For the knights to bury it. Win game one. Game two.

Scott

Dude, the knights dominated 50 plus minutes of the game. Textbook. Textbook defense of what they needed to do. But I'm just gonna say, McNabb hit in the face with the 87 mile an hour puck. And McNabb, obviously you're new to the Knights in hockey. McNabb's an original misfit. He's an original player for the Knights. Right. Okay. Guy's a stud. 100% stud. And a big part of the Knights power play team on special teams. Knights hadn't given up what? A power play goal in the series. He gets hurt early in the first. You know, is what it is. Give up a goal. Knights are winning two to nothing with what? 10 minutes left?

Graham

Yeah.

Scott

They end up tying it. And then the Knights score. It's a challenge. We're not even getting into that. And then it's automatically a power play for the Canes. They take the lead. And then with what 90 seconds left, Stone ends up getting the goal to tie the game up, send it to overtime. You know, I don't know, dude. It's one to one. And like I told you after the game, you actually said it to me. If I would have told you, Scott, that the Knights would be tied one to one heading back to Vegas, would you have been happy? Duh.

Graham

Of course.

Scott

But when you're up two to nothing with nine and some change left in game two, and you lose it, it was hard to swallow.

Graham

Well, I mean, dude, the penalty that they took with what, two and a half minutes left? Was it hurdle? Or who was it that tossed the puck out of Yeah, that was bad. Yeah, it's just like if that didn't happen, then you know, then the penalty wouldn't happen. They would have got that score. I mean, look, thank God Stone was able to equalize it at the end of the third, you know, with that minute and change left. But it's just like it felt like how do I say this? That first 50 minutes, watching that game, it almost like I don't want to say it was a clinic. It was a clinic. They were just dominating, they were playing suffocating defense, they didn't make any mistakes, and then it's just, you know, look.

Scott

You give them a little momentum, and and like everybody says, we challenged it. Why? Because the Hurricane's power play has been what? Shit. Yeah. Shit. And then they score, take the lead, whatever.

Graham

Watching that game, like when they got that first goal, and then they got the second goal, it was almost like the Knights were just like they forgot what they were doing for the previous 50 minutes.

Scott

And like I said, to you and to everybody, with McNabb gone, you're down the defenseman. They were gassed, dude. Oh, 100%. They were gassed. 100%. They were gassed. Rasmus Anderson, who we traded for at the trade deadline, who was supposed to be this huge savior to our defense. He's been about as worthless as me and you. Okay. Terrible. He's done nothing. But whatever. No, there's we're not even getting into that. Anyhow, we lose the game, right? In overtime. On a fucking simple shot. Whatever. Yeah. It's one to one going to Vegas.

Game Three Meltdown To Double OT

Scott

I'm bummed because we lost that game, but I kept telling myself, hey, we dominated that entire game.

Graham

Yeah.

Scott

And literally told Kristen going into last night, I'm like, hey, if we win tonight, game three, it's gonna be a blowout. It's gonna be a blowout. And what happens? 0-0 after the first. The Knights score two goals in the second. They both get waived off. And we score four. It's four to nothing going in the third. Patrick. Natural Hattie, too. Yeah. I mean, dude. Fastest Hattie in finals history, six minutes and ten seconds.

Graham

That's not bad.

Scott

Poor Toronto fans, bro. Jeez, dude. I just I mean, the guys, I forget what the stat is, but the goals Marner scored for the Maple Leafs in the playoffs were like eight, and he's got like ten for us in this one postseason. Uh uh. I mean, and then the third period starts, and once again, we're dominating. Don't forget, the Gaines pulled Anderson out of the net.

Graham

Yeah.

Scott

Put in a dude that hadn't played a game all playoffs.

Graham

Was it Bussy? Boosey was Boosey, Bussy, whatever. Yeah.

Scott

Yeah, something like that.

Graham

But wasn't with like what 10 minutes left, 11 minutes left or something?

Scott

No, they yanked him going into the third. No, I mean, by the time they started to score, when they went Yeah, and the funny thing is, dude, when Marner scored his second goal, TP's like, oh, he's definitely getting a hatty. And then TP was like, if the Knights score another one here in the third or in the second, he goes, guaranteed Anderson's gone. Nailed both of them.

Graham

Yeah. Yeah.

Scott

And they're in the third period, up four to nothing. And then we got more history. The Kane scores three goals in 39 seconds. Fastest three goals in Stanley Cup final history.

Graham

Yeah, and it was all my fault, remember?

Scott

Yeah, I'm on the phone with you for 10 seconds and they score twice. And then I literally hung up the phone on you. I'm like when they scored two. I went to take a leak and come back, and Chris was like, they just scored another one. I'm like, oh my god.

Graham

Oh, the craziest part was we were texting back and forth a little bit throughout the game, but finally, like, because you know you were busy doing your thing, and you're like, all right, you know, when I text you, you're like, Yeah, I'll call you in a little bit. So we finally like linked up and we were watching it. And I remember before they scored the first goal. Because, like I said, I mean, how many minutes went went by in the third period? Like six or seven minutes went by, and I'm just like, This is another scenario where the knights were dominating. Well, I wouldn't say dominating, but like the first period was just very back and forth, they were very even, and then that second period obviously the knights just opened it up, right? And that third period was you know, it was tight yet yet again, and then I made the comment, like it's one of those like look, you know how superstitious I am, and you are a little bit as well. And it's just like there was 13 minutes left in the game, and we're going in four and nothing. That's what I thought. It was around like the seven, eight-minute mark. And it's just like for someone that's superstitious, and you and it's and especially when you're with your boys, there are certain things you just don't say. And I broke the rule, the unwritten rule, and I'm just like, yo, Scott, I know the saying is a three-goal lead in hockey is safe, but I'm like, a four-goal lead? I'm come on, bro. I'm like, really? This is a thing. Like, do we really need to watch the rest of this joking? Ha ha ha. Like I said, with seven minutes going by, and then what happened was I'm like, all right, the first one, okay. Then the second one happened, you're like, Graham, I'm hanging up bye. I'm like, all right, damn, dude. My bad. And then next thing you know, then that third goal happens, you're just like, oh my God. I'm like, all right. So then, you know, I'm like, I get a quick little bite tea, and then I'm watching it out in the living room, and then they scored again to tie it up, and I'm just like, oh my god, what is going on right now? You know, my confidence level. I was done. I was done. Oh, dude, you were just like this is over, F the team, blah, blah, blah, this, blah, blah, blah that, and you're just like, and I'm like, dude, believe, breathe and believe. Like, it's gonna come back work. Because I'm just saying to myself, I'm like, how could they have been playing so well? And then just like in this minute and a half time span, or you know, the next four or five minutes, or just I mean, like, I get that, but my I guess some of where I was going with this is this when you're watching this game, did it feel like this was like one of the most impressive hockey games? Not of all time, but like like did it seem like it was the oh my god, this is the most amazing Stanley Cup Finals game that everyone's saying after the fact that it's over, being down 4-0, now it's tied, then the fact they went to double overtime, and then obviously the Knights get the win. I mean, look, especially the two calls that they got for the goals taken back. Obviously, the first one was stoned, he was offside, but in the second one, the quote unquote goalie interference. I mean, like, I get it. The fact that they won it in double overtime with the shot that they won it on, bouncing off the goalie skate and going in.

Scott

I'm just gonna throw it out there. We all know who Linda Cohn is, right? The ESPN chick.

Graham

Yeah, yeah.

Scott

She's a huge hockey fan, right? And her Instagram today, she literally said, we just watched the greatest hockey game of all times. And through three games of the Stanley Cup final so far, could be the best. Yeah. Like we said last week, both teams are so equal.

Graham

Yeah, I agree.

Scott

I'm gonna give kudos to the Canes. They didn't quit last night when it was four to nothing with 13 minutes left.

Graham

Easily could have. Easily could have.

Scott

Could have 100% pulled their goalie, put in a dude that hadn't played in however many games, but the goal last night that the canes scored, what's the difference between that goal and the goal that the Knights got called off in game two?

Graham

And it's at home, too.

Scott

That's the even more like

Officiating Talk And Game Four Stakes

Scott

I mean we're literally I and I a hundred percent believe this. If McNabb doesn't take a puck to the face in game two early, the knights are up three to nothing.

Graham

Yeah. Without a doubt. Without a doubt. Yeah. I don't but So are you implying that the people at bay are, you know, want this to go longer, or like what are you trying to say here?

Scott

I don't know, dude. I'm not saying anything. Uh all I'm saying is I like where we're at. I still think it's going six. I the knights have to come out, dude, tomorrow or Tuesday night. And dominate, dude. We've all we've seen in the last in game two and game three, there's not a lead that's big enough.

Graham

Yeah, if four goals is not enough, I don't know what I mean.

Scott

I mean, we'll see what happens in goal for the Keynes. Who's gonna start? Anderson or the other dude. I mean, we'll see what happens.

Graham

I I mean look, I like the idea of all right, Vegas can win at home, we'll go back to Carolina, we'll take the L, and then we'll come back to Vegas and get the dub at home. I really like to win at home Tuesday, and then get the cup on Thursday in Carolina. Why? Because you'll be like, What why?

Scott

Just because you want it to be done? Because because the knights get their first cup got to do it at home. Yeah, oh. Because I want to do it on the road. Oh. I want to do it on the road. Just for all those chain no means no to Carter Hart. My guy was found innocent, bro. You know? Just because of that. You gotta disrespect? Guess what?

Graham

I mean, I'll say this. Everyone's had three goals a race, bro.

Scott

Yeah, three goals. Three goals. Three.

Graham

Except the Keynes fan that got kicked out in the first two minutes of the game.

Scott

Dude, I mean, how good is that? I mean, how much money did you spend for your flight and then your ticket? And then you're getting escorted out like kick rocks, bro.

Graham

The cheapest ticket was like 11 Hundo.

Scott

Dude, did you see the video of everybody outside of T-Mobile? Yeah. When when the Knight's horn went off and they're watching it delayed on the Jumbotron.

Graham

Yeah.

Scott

So the game-winning goal goes off or horn goes off, they can hear it inside the arena in like 10 seconds left. Oh, everybody's like, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god. And then they show it, they're like, going ape shit. You know, dude.

Graham

You see the people in the crowd outside, and you always see the those MFers that are like throwing their beers up. Like, look, I'm all about excited, you know, being all excited and stuff. But if I'm like jumping up and down and I feel like beer getting thrown on me, I'd be pretty pissed off.

Scott

Graham, if I was there, you'd have a beer on your face.

Graham

Ha ha shut up.

Scott

Just saying. Just saying. Woo! Just oh, dude. Dude, beers would be going apeshit. And and like the knights always do, I love it. When there's a hat trick, the knights always throw out on their Instagram. Uh, you know, obviously hat trick, throw your hat on the ice. 25% off at the armory or online using uh promo code whatever after you throw your hat on the ice. Love it, dude.

Graham

That's the best business decision ever.

Scott

Love it, dude. It's so sick. I mean, Jerry was like, one game we had a chance when we were there. Stone had a chance at a hat. He goes, Are you throwing your hat? I'm like, I'm Joe Montana and this bitch on the ice. That shit's gone. I mean, so long. He goes, This is the first time you're worn it. Don't care. Shit's gone. Bye-bye. Yeah, without a doubt. Don't care. Lynch got it for me. Don't care. Oh. But hey, I just got this hat.

Graham

It was $45, son of a bitch.

Scott

Yeah. I mean, whatever. But hey. We're up two to one after three. If you would have told me that going into the series, would I have been happy? Absolutely. Right. Not mad at it. Uh I'm just glad, like I said earlier, we got two nights off.

Graham

Now, devil's advocate. If they tie it up and we're going back to Carolina, how do you feel?

Scott

Hey. It's gonna be a long series. I knew that. Yeah. I mean, do I expect the Knights to win game four? No. I don't.

Graham

I also didn't expect the over to hit, especially with how the first in every game? Yeah. Like. After the first period, I'm like, there is no chance the over is hitting. Then I was just like, oh, hold my beer. Hold on a second.

Scott

Yeah. But hey, like I said, pumped. We got two nights off. The Fortress is gonna be rocking Tuesday night.

Graham

Oh.

Scott

Yeah. Like I said, I'm so pumped when Kristen and I were talking about it. Ava

Planning Life Around Big Games

Scott

obviously graduates next Monday, going to a concert Friday. My mom and dad are coming into town Saturday. None of the games conflict with any of it. Talk about, dude, I'm sitting here going, if if we would have had a game one Friday night in this concert, like uh I would have might have eaten the tickets, like giving them to Ava and Andrew or something. Like, I don't know.

Graham

But yeah. What you can't watch on your phone when you're at the station?

Scott

No, bro. No, I need to be able to yell shit, god damn it, if I want to. Like Andy said this morning. He was like, dude, what did he say? Exact words. He's like, uh, where the heck is it? He goes, What did you break last night when they scored? I'm like, maybe my head on the ceiling when I jumped up. Yeah. But,

NBA Finals Knicks Versus Spurs

Scott

dude, anyhow, NBA finals. Uh we talked about it last week, dude, and we were both pulling for who? The Knicks! And what do we both say was gonna happen? They had to do what? Play perfect.

Graham

I you know, before the series started, what did I say? I said Spurs and six, but I also said this: I'm like, hey, the Knicks have been playing good team ball. Brunson has been unbelievable, and you know, you can't count him out. That being said, I also said, look, if I was a betting man, I'm betting for the Spurs, but I'm rooting for the Knicks, which has been so difficult because which is why I haven't bet any of this series. Like on paper, especially in San Antonio, I would have taken the Knicks. Both games, especially after game one. Like, they had to get game two, they had to.

Scott

Dude, Knicks won by 10 game one.

Graham

Right.

Scott

The Spurs were six and a half point favorites in game two.

Graham

Yeah. I mean, the Spurs.

Scott

And you said, what'd you say going into game two? They have to win.

Graham

There's no, there's no way they won't lay what? Lay what?

Scott

Lay the woo on the Spurs minus six and a half.

Graham

I dude, there was two points in that game, and by the game, I mean game two. They were down 14 points. The Spurs. I I just, you know, before the series started, I said that the one thing that the Knicks have compared to the Spurs is they have experience. They have a lot of guys that have been in the league for a while, that have been high-quality players for multiple years, have playoff experience. And look, you can tell, I mean, especially in game two, there was a couple plays late, and especially from Wimby himself, where he made errors that literally cost them the game. At the end of the game, with 10 seconds or whatever it was, when they got that inbound pass and Wimby was taking it up the court, and he tried to pass it to his to Castle, I believe. Castle wasn't ready for it. It hit him in the back. Brunson picked it up and got the ball. Like, that should have never happened.

Scott

The Knicks haven't lost a game since April 20th.

Graham

That's insane.

Scott

They lost to the Hawks by a point.

Graham

And that being said, they haven't like say that again.

Scott

April 20th.

Graham

That's insane.

Scott

So And they lost that game to go down two to one to the Hawks.

Graham

Right. And now they're going back home to MSG, the most popular stadiums in the NBA. I mean, the Mecca, as they call it. I mean, that place, as the kids like to say, is gonna be Liddy.

Scott

But I disagree. I disagree. It's not gonna be Liddy. What have you seen the ticket prices?

Graham

Dude, I'm telling you, that has to be like Dude, it ain't gonna be Liddy.

Scott

Because only people that are gonna be there are celebrities.

Graham

That's fine. Do you know how many rich people live in New York? I I don't disagree.

Scott

Like paying 14 grand for upper deck.

Graham

There's no like that has to be resale. There's no way.

Scott

Yeah, it's on tick.

Graham

It's on tick pics. Yeah, I understand. No, that's because people are trying to offer it, but I guarantee you, if they don't sell them, they're going to the game. Like, there's gonna be people like the seasoned ticket holders that pay the money, like, yeah, they'll pay a premium, they'll probably spend a thousand bucks, or even if they're spend five hundred, like they're going to the game. They're just trying to see if they can sell them and make some money. And hell, why not? Why wouldn't you?

Scott

But then again, right now, okay. Cheapest ticket for tomorrow night, 5700.

Graham

That's insane. Considering that the Knicks haven't been to the finals since the early 2000s, like, this is their fifth time ever as an organization. They won their first two times in the 70s, and then they've gone through this. Is their third time. Like, that place is going to be off the chain. How like you would think, like, I thought they'll split best case scenario in San Antonio, then they'll win game three. Like, how do you not bet for the Knicks in game three, their first at home? I I mean, uh, do they go up 3-0? Some people are joking about the sweep. Uh they're not sweeping them. Like, I would think they're not winning game three. I think they split and then take it back to San Antonio 3-1. I mean, I would be shocked, but look, it really comes down to this, and what I was about to say earlier was the inexperience, just because of how young the Spurs team is, three of their starters are second-year players. They're amazing, but they're second-year players. I mean, they're I mean, De'Aaron Fox is their most veteran type player with experience. Uh well, no, I mean they have Barnes, but like he's been a lead, like he's a vet, like he's someone that plays like five minutes a game. I'm saying, like, an actual starter or you know, someone that comes in off the bench and plays, you know, 15, 16 minutes, you know, solid minutes. They don't have that. So, look, the young guys are stepping up for them. I mean, what they did to get here is amazing. I mean, like, they're amazing players, but look, in the NBA, especially, and even in hockey, but the some comparative to the other sports, I would say in basketball, the bright lights get to the young guys. Like, it it really shows a team that's been there has the experience, you know, they can handle the pressure better, and like the most minute things could happen, and like that's what can change the game. The Spurs should have won the last game. I mean, look, dude, the Spurs were down 14 and then went on a 20-point run.

Scott

Especially when Brunson misses a foul shot.

Graham

Yeah, hit the game. Like, that's what I'm saying.

Scott

Like, I'm like, oh, dude, dude, he could go up two.

Graham

They had the chance to win. That's what I'm saying. Like, Wemby got the ball, like they only had a one-point lead. Wemby makes that shot. This is a whole different series. I mean, but also being the case, he got the inbound, there were seven seconds left. Why he just didn't take it to the hole is beyond me. I mean, he makes that shot eight out of ten times. It just didn't happen to go this time. So, you know, is there the divine intervention from above that's just like, hey, it's the Knicks year? I mean, I don't know. I mean, I I won't speculate to say that, but I will say there's been plenty of opportunities. Look, the Knicks stole game one. There's a the Spurs dominated most of game one, and then the Spurs came, and then I'm sorry, the Knicks came back and stole the game at the end. So I feel like it's been pretty even. It's just down the stretch of each game, the Knicks have just been more poised, more confident, more calm, and they took care of business. And Brunson, Brunson didn't have really a great game the other day.

Scott

Well, game one, he went out in the first quarter.

Graham

Yeah. But he has a stat. My boss at work was telling me he's just like, Brunson in the last three minutes of the game in the playoffs, his point differential is like plus 15 comparative to the rest of the season, regular season in the playoffs. He's like, this dude just turns it on. And the thing is, the game two, he didn't have that great of a game in the last three minutes. Clutch. I mean, the bucket that he made with like 48 seconds left to put them up, you know, to put them up, and then the other team scored, and then they got the ball back, and then you know, he he got fouled. Like, he has just been clutch. And you know, good for them. I mean, him, you know, Kat, they've just been balling out, and I I couldn't be happier for them. I mean, then the NBA said it a hundred times on this show.

Scott

The NBA is better when what?

Graham

The Knicks are better, dude. This is their year. If they're gonna do it, this is the year. And I I'm just really hoping that's the case because, dude, you give the Spurs another year to get better.

Scott

I love it, dude. I love it. Just I don't know. My boy Maros is all fired up, you know, for the Knicks and friends that are Knicks fans, and dude, we've we've talked about it forever. The NBA is great if the Knicks are playing well, yeah. And and I don't want the Spurs to win because you know some individuals.

Graham

You know, uh I'm look, I I wa it I don't want to say this, like dude, in any sport, a two-game lead, it's not science-sealed and delivered. I mean, they can obviously easily come back. I'm not saying lock it up for the for the next for the Knicks, but uh dude, if they split at home and it goes back to San Antonio 3-1, I like the chances. I'm I'm rooting for it. I hope it happens, I hope the Knicks win. And I hope to to see what the chaos will ensue after after they win. Because the videos that I've been watching of the fans out in the streets have been unbelievable. I just like it's amazing, and dude, New York. Oh my god, dude, if the Knicks won, that place, like, they won't burn it down. Like, they're not Boston fans, but I or Philly. Yeah, like sorry, Greg, but it will be unbelievable. So please, Nick's, please.

Scott

Yeah, I'm I'm hoping.

Graham

I mean, I wish I would have been it before, but yeah, I wish they didn't parlay it with the damn avalanche. Bastards.

Superstition, Emergency Pod, Goodbye

Scott

Anyhow, uh, Graham. Oh, dude. Stanley Cup finals, NBA finals.

Graham

Get rested, bro. Get rested for Tuesday. Hey, man. We got NBA action tomorrow night. Dude, this is is this one of the is this one of the first days that there's not been a basketball or hockey game on?

Scott

Yeah, and I have to give credit where credit is due. Okay. K dubb stayed up for the entire game last night. And she was literally like, okay, I stayed up for game one, nights one, went to bed, two to nothing on game two, lost. I'm staying up for game three. Credit where credit is due. I was even talking to my dad earlier and he was like, I'm sorry, what? Even though after game one she did call in six to work the next day, but hey.

Graham

Did she did she have one eye open in the second in the second overtime? Or was she No, dude.

Scott

She was too busy telling me to shut up.

Graham

That's a full-time job at that hour of the night.

Scott

Yeah. But hey, hey, let's go nice, baby. Let's go. Let's go. Let's get this cup, man. I need Mama Cohen to send me another newspaper. Right? With the with the I mean, let's go. It's gotta happen. Hey, we gotta get dude. We gotta get Marner a cup, dude, just to piss off Toronto fans. Exactly. Imagine, dude. Con Smyth winner.

Graham

Oh it's crazy to think that our next episode by that time happens, the nice Shh. Shh. Shh. I didn't say anything.

Scott

No, you didn't, because I thought you shut the cup. Bright lights, you're gonna set my soul. Gonna set my soul. So long fire. All I know is that when we win the cup, we're gonna do another emergency podcast. Because that was one of the best. When your boy was drunk. That was one of the best. When your boy was drunk. And Graham, I love ya. Fun show. Dude, once again, TP, you can't see me, but I'm giving you the middle finger for making me a hockey fan. But I love it, bro. I love the game. I love the sport. I love the Vegas Golden Knights.

Graham

And it is what it is. Let's go. Let's go. Get us out of here. Go Knights Go and let's go next. That being said, as the best homie always says, boo bye.

Scott

Good night, friends. I heard you today, Jim Nance. I saw you today, Amanda. But let's go, Knights. They trump everything. Go Knights go. Go Knights Go. Bright Light City. Gonna set my soul. Gonna set that asshole in Raleigh on fire. Talking shit to a nine year old kid. I hope you are uh I don't even know what to say, can't rhyme it.

Graham

Boom!