Jo Lay

 What if fear of water could be measured — not guessed? This week, we explore the groundbreaking 12-Step Aquaphobia Program developed by Mike Berman and researched with Dr. Ali Barrow in Germany and Dr. Jenny Smith at the University of Chichester. Joanna shares how this evidence-based approach uses a 25-question fear assessment, PAR (Personal Ability Range) scoring, and gradual exposure to help people reclaim calm and confidence in water. From the smell of chlorine triggering panic to grandparents learning to swim for their grandkids, this conversation dives deep into the science and emotion behind overcoming aquaphobia — and what it teaches us about human fear itself.