#85 From CDO to author: Jackie Janssen on the evolution of AI and implications for business and society

DataTopics Unplugged: All Things Data, AI & Tech

DataTopics Unplugged: All Things Data, AI & Tech
#85 From CDO to author: Jackie Janssen on the evolution of AI and implications for business and society
Jul 03, 2025
DataTopics

Send us a text

Welcome to the cozy corner of the tech world! Datatopics is your go-to spot for relaxed discussions around tech, news, data, and society.

This week, co-host Ben is joined by Jackie Janssen, former Chief Data Officer at CM, author of AI: De Hype Voorbij, and an evangelist for pragmatic, human-centered AI. Together, they trace the winding path from early tech roles to enterprise transformation, exploring how AI can actually serve humans (and not just the hype machine).

In this episode:

  • Leadership in AI transformation: From KBC to CM, lessons on creating cultural buy-in.
  • Building effective data teams: Why the first hire isn’t always a data engineer.
  • AI governance: What makes a strong AI Council and why CEOs should care.
  • Product and process thinking: How MLOps, data factories, and product mindsets intersect.
  • Agents and autonomy: The future of work with AI teammates, not just tools.
  • The human edge in a machine world: A preview of Jackie’s next book on rediscovering humanity in the age of AI.

Curious about Jackie’s take on AI agents, cultural inertia, or what really makes a great data strategy tick? Tune in, you might just find a new way to think about your tech stack and your team.

Episode Artwork #85 From CDO to author: Jackie Janssen on the evolution of AI and implications for business and society 36:54 Episode Artwork #84 Let’s Get Meta: Why the Metadata You Ignore Might Be Costing You - with Special Guest Corentin 1:01:01 Episode Artwork #83 Who’s Minding the Metadata? Why Data Quality Matters in GenAI (Quality Time With Paolo) 50:49 Episode Artwork #82 AI Cracked a Decades-Old Science Problem & Europe’s Push for Digital Sovereignty, The Secret Behind MCP, and The Cloud Hack That Slashes Costs By 62%. 1:21:02 Episode Artwork #81 AI Code Assistants: The Good, The Bad & The Overhyped, plus Python’s UV Glow-Up & Postman’s Existential Crisis 1:12:52 Episode Artwork #80 AI Agents Run Wild, DeepSeek Breaks Records, Polars Cloud Expands, and Perplexity Reinvents Search 1:07:27 Episode Artwork #79 The $6 AI Model? France’s $85B Bet, DeepSeek's Censorship & The Python Upgrades You Need 1:07:42 Episode Artwork #78 The AI Act Lands, Meta Pauses, OpenAI Complains & DeepSeek Rises 44:36 Episode Artwork #77 DeepSeek R1: The ‘Open’ AI That’s Shaking Up OpenAI - Plus OpenAI’s Operator, Stargate, ByteDance, & more 1:15:38 Episode Artwork #76 AI at what cost? Environmental toll, Trump vs AI regulation, creative impact, & poisoned text for AI scrapers. 1:01:44 Episode Artwork #75 Developer Productivity in 2025: AI Replaces Engineers, Biden’s AI Chip Regulations, UV’s Killer Feature, and Doom in a PDF 1:14:17 Episode Artwork #74 Hello 2025! OpenAI’s O3, Deep Seek V3, Bolt.new and Doom Goes Artsy 1:09:35 Episode Artwork #73 LLM Hunger Games: The Ultimate Showdown - Rootsconf recap (Part 3) 32:09 Episode Artwork #72 Mastering Communication in the Workplace – Rootsconf Recap (Part 2) 27:59 Episode Artwork #71 Navigating GenAI: How Organizations Must Adapt to Paradigm Shifts – Rootsconf Recap (part 1) 35:20 Episode Artwork #70 What's Next for AI? A Recap of 2024 and Predictions for 2025 1:52:52 Episode Artwork #69 From Engineer to CEO: Alex Gallego on Building Red Panda 1:04:44 Episode Artwork #68 GenAI meets Minecraft, OpenAI’s O1 Leak, Strava’s AI Moves, HTMX vs. React & Octoverse Trends 1:33:06 Episode Artwork #67 The AI Race: ChatGPT's New Web Search, Meta’s Llama AI Scaling Efforts & Python 3.13's Upgrades 1:09:54 Episode Artwork #66 From Will Smith to Meta's MovieGen: How AI Video Got Real. Plus Claude 3.5’s “Computer Use” & Open Source Tools 59:34 Episode Artwork #65 The Art of Data Storytelling: A Deep Dive with Angelica Lo Duca 1:04:20 Episode Artwork #64 Python WTF moments, Rust rants & Quantum flops 1:06:05 Episode Artwork #63 What’s Next for Open Source? Astral’s business model, WordPress, Deno 2.0 & One Year of DataTopics! 57:31 Episode Artwork #62 The End of Pandas, Rise of Ibis: AI, Function Calling, & Python’s New Tools 1:13:44 Episode Artwork #61 AI is Officially Smarter Than Humans: First Look at OpenAI O1 'Strawberry' 1:24:33