The MuzicBook Podcast
A podcast devoted to classic music, movies, and television. The slogan for this podcast is "Keep The Classics Current" and that's the spirit of the podcast. Hosted by Sean Hicks, music lover and historian.
The MuzicBook Podcast
Bands That Shaped A Lifetime Of Listening
Disco-Hicks and special guest Marc “Big Sexy” Wiggins trade top 10 bands, fight for their favorites, and tell the stories that made them stick—from Sly’s blueprint and Queen’s command to the Eagles’ perfection and Prince’s live sorcery. Along the way they unpack Blondie’s hip‑hop bridge, Steve Perry’s vocal bar, and why Earth, Wind & Fire never age.
• shoutouts to listeners in Frankfurt and beyond
• the upcoming Michael Jackson film, legal edits, and legacy
• are The Doors a fad or foundation
• top 10 bands with reasons, eras, and live moments
• Sly and The Time as rehearsal-made monsters
• Blondie’s CBGB roots and hip hop ties
• Queen’s Live Aid mastery and production style
• Isley Brothers and Ernie Isley’s guitar legacy
• Stones and Beatles as lifelong anchors
• Sade’s band craft and mood engineering
• Gap Band hits, managers, and money
• Eagles documentary, harmony, and catalog power
• Journey’s Steve Perry vs later eras
• Prince bands: Revolution to NPG live reinvention
• Earth, Wind & Fire’s timeless arrangements and horns
• honorable mentions: Bruno Mars, Maroon 5, Rufus, Police, Duran Duran, Culture Club, Cameo, Heatwave, Commodores, No Doubt, Kool & The Gang, Rose Royce
• closing stories from the road and a final sign‑off
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Music bookers, welcome back to the music book podcast. I'm your host. I'm not start going by my nickname, Disco Hicks. I am your host, Disco Hicks, and I'm joined by the brother of the of the show, Mark Wiggins. How you doing, my guy?
SPEAKER_01:Hey man, I'm doing great. I got a Saturday going on and just getting some housework done and getting my music thing on, doing a little football and doing a little music.
SPEAKER_00:Yes. It's nothing like football. Dan Lebertard.
SPEAKER_03:Sometimes. Sometimes.
SPEAKER_00:He described football, and I love the way he had put this. He called football. He said football is uh real estate acquisition by force. I was like, that's interesting the way to put it.
SPEAKER_01:But I would I would add to that that it is a test of wills. That's you know, I'm gonna take this piece of property and you can't do anything about it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And on the other side of the ball, it's like you ain't taking anything. So let's figure it out.
SPEAKER_00:Uh so much to get to. So today we're gonna talk about our favorite bands. This is a podcast I've done before. I want to give a shout out to Jeremiah Gardner and my boy Tony Maul, who was on that episode. But uh, it was just we had so many of the same bands, and so once you start jumping on this podcast, I'm like, I'm gonna ask Big Sexy what are his takes because I know we're gonna have different bands. It may have some similar, but I just love your eclectic taste, and I have eclectic tastes, and I think this would be an interesting show and interesting back and forth. But uh before we get into that, I want to give a shout out because you know I've been giving so much love to the people uh outside of the United States, and um one of the one people I haven't really shouted out is people in Germany and Frankfurt, uh, what is it called? Amin Haas. Uh they've been with this podcast since day one. They show up and show out. Oh, and I just want to give, I just want to give them a shout out and thank you for your support. I mean, you know, it's it's certain topics people might jump on, jump, jump off on, but they are consistently listening to this podcast. Oh, and I'm just a I'm just a black man from Inkster, Michigan, and I like to thank you for wanting to listen to a brother. That's so cool. And it's like, I'm just I mean, if you know about Inkster, Inkster is like a six-mile radius uh city outside of Detroit, and I'm just man, I'm just born and raised there. It's kind of country, but it's uh I I just can't believe people outside this country uh given uh Germany and other countries that I can't, you know, I won't name right now, but uh just listen to it, brother. And I just appreciate the support and uh thank you. And um, you're gonna you went for a treat for today because we're gonna talk about our favorite bands. And uh before we go, did you have you seen the Michael Jackson trailer?
SPEAKER_01:I have, I have seen it actually.
SPEAKER_00:What are your thoughts?
SPEAKER_01:You know, it looks great, you know, and the nephew, I think I think this is Tito's sons who's playing Michael Jermaine. Jermaine's son, he looks great. Yes, he looks great. And the thing is though, there's so many things. How much how you can't capture his life in one film, it can't be done. So where are they gonna start and stop from? That's that's my question.
SPEAKER_00:That's two, uh, you know, it's been two movies, it's gonna be two movies, and well, there's gonna be two movies, okay. It's gonna be two movies, and also there's so much, like you said, so much to talk about, and then and then they they they've done so many reshoots because of legalities. Uh, they did stuff with Jordan Chandler, and then come to find out uh they were not supposed to talk about it, so they had to go back and uh and take it out, and had to do some more reshoots, and so now we get to see a trailer, and then we get the we see a date, uh, April 2026. So I'm very yes, and also, too, I am I am so glad. You see the trailer, they show uh Michael in the studio with Quincy Jones, and it has a is a um a note that's on the wall, a sticky pad that says, Mama say mama sa mamaku san. And I'm so glad that they posted that because I'm tired of the back and forth, these millennials and these Gen Z talking about I'ma say it one more time, I'm not gonna stop. No, that's not the lyrics. I mean, because this is I mean, it's it's known if you do the research. Michael Jackson had to go to court because of those lyrics. Because um, was it not Manu DeBongo? He got that lyrics from the um the song So Mukasa, and so yeah, he uh he went to court for all that, and so yeah, it's an African chant.
SPEAKER_01:Not and the thing is, you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna play my old guy card now. You and I were there when this happened, yes. These these young ones weren't even around. Man, well, they don't know.
SPEAKER_00:And it's a it's a viral clip of this daughter telling her father that, which, like you said, we were there, he was there, and she's telling him this is the lyric. He was like, I can't believe that all this time I was singing it this way, and you telling me this, and and then he goes and says, He said, I don't like the disrespect the dad, but MJ F you. I'm like, What did why would you catch it straight, but both of them like shame on you for listening to your daughter? Like, you should be schooling her.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, you should educate her. That's one thing I I like about what I do as a music lawyer. I get to speak to young people and young lawyers all the time and law students. I educate them, you know, because they asked me about the whole Motown 25, and I told them how it all happened. And you're like, Really? Really? Yeah, Mike said no. Mike said no initially. And then he told Barry, he said, look, I'll do it, but I want a solo spot. And that's and then the solo spot did Billy Jean, and you well you know as well as I do, he changed the gravity that night.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, absolutely. Music and TV and videos were never the same after that, never the same.
SPEAKER_01:It all changed.
SPEAKER_00:Just for that decision. And then he had the fact that he had the forethought to do that, uh, not compitulate to what was going on with that show, and he could have just done all the Motown stuff, but no, he had the vision. Like, no, I'm I got the new album, I had to drop this, and you know, he was he was on admission because what happened with the off the wall, he felt slided with the awards, and so yeah, here we are. Man, dude, uh, Michael Jackson is the and they do this like who is the most famous people in history? Jesus is number one, and Michael Jackson is number two, and that is so crazy to me, but it's hey, uh and the best one of the best things about Michael now and his legacy is I see people on YouTube, I see kids on YouTube, yes, just wearing out the damn steps.
SPEAKER_01:I'm like, you guys never saw him, but they see him and they they know, yeah, he resonates with youngins.
SPEAKER_00:They love that 90s, Mike, though. I I I appreciate the 90s Mike, but that that height of the thriller that uh from Triumph to Thriller to uh We Out of the World, that era right there was just like oh, it was nothing like that. It was crazy.
SPEAKER_01:I wasn't like he'd be in a different country and he'd be running through the streets with like 50 cops.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I'm like, dude, how why what how you just hear the chance we want Michael, we want Michael with this. Huh, all right, man. Uh well that's the question I have to ask you since we're talking about bands. Uh, I was recently listening to this podcast about true crime, and they were talking about I was listening to true crime about Charles Mason and Masson family. And you are yeah, you're on the West Coast, so I was just curious, and you know, they did a backdrop about what was going on around that time, and they brought up the doors. Yeah, is is the doors on your group? I mean, in your in your top 10.
SPEAKER_01:The doors are not on my top 10, but coincidentally, coincidentally enough, um D'Angela just bought their box set.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, um yeah, they were saying he this person was saying, and uh the person was doing this podcast, was saying that uh that the doors was like a novelty group. Um kind of that's what she said. She said as fast as they were famous, they went out just as fast. Did you experience that like that?
SPEAKER_01:I I don't I don't agree with that at all.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_01:The only reason they went out is because you know Jim left us, but they were a steady burn the whole time of their run.
SPEAKER_00:See, yeah, see, that's why I wanted to ask you. Because I I from what I know, I really don't follow them. I know their hits, but I wanted to ask you. So I've been waiting for for weeks to ask you that question. Because I I just uh it just didn't it didn't sound right. It's justn't sound right.
SPEAKER_01:They were not a flash of the pan by any stretch.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, uh yeah.
SPEAKER_01:All right, I'm gonna music stands up. Yeah, you know, if if they were, we wouldn't be talking about them.
SPEAKER_00:We would not be talking about them and wouldn't be making movies about them, you know.
SPEAKER_01:Exactly.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so I I just I I just thought it was weird, and I just wanted to ask you about it.
SPEAKER_01:Uh let me ask you this. Did you see Austin Powers? Yeah, at the beginning of the of the film, uh they're playing this song called Incense and Peppermint by the strawberry alarm clock alarm clock. Have they made a movie about them? No.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Good point. Good point.
SPEAKER_01:And now the song's in my head now. Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_00:Nah, yeah, I'm gonna be thinking about that too. Uh, I'm gonna let you go first. We're gonna start at 10. And so, what I want to do is we're gonna do run off our top 10s and get reason why and all that, and then just throw out some other names, other blends, some uh other bands out there, some honorable mentions. Ready for do that?
SPEAKER_01:Let's do it. I'm first. Yep, go first, brother. All right, and I'm I'm I don't know if I'm gonna do chronologically or or just however the mood hits me, but I'm gonna start in my youth for now and say slime and family song. I was a youngster even until now. Yeah, their greatest hits album is one of those few packages that there are no skip tunes. None. And his band did everything Prince did first.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And when you watch them, I didn't know Larry Graham was in that band until later on in life. And when Larry left, he did the same thing with his band. You know, and granted, Sly had some issues after the band broke up about being on time and this and that, whatever. When you look at them at Woodstock, they blew up the building.
SPEAKER_00:They did. They did.
SPEAKER_01:They stole the show. Whoever, whoever went after them had to be looking at themselves like, I'm not going out there. And then in um Crestlov's film, Son of the Soul. Yeah, yeah. They're set there, they blew that up too.
SPEAKER_04:Yep.
SPEAKER_01:You know, they were an amazing group, and they they covered every checked every box. They had men, women, black, white, and they just went there and did their thing. And I have always been a sly fan. In fact, when I was like eight years old, I had the fringe vest back then. We called them shingling. You couldn't tell me I wasn't sly.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, see, yeah, that that right there. I just yeah, that band right there. I have like uh they're not on my list. Uh I do have them listed, but a great band. Yeah, big, I mean when I think about Prince, I do. You can't you can't help but think about Sly and the Family Stone. Uh, just like their impact on, like you said, the culture that have it, they checked every mark. Men, women, black and white. I just love that. I love the inclusion. And they, you know, and Sly put that in everybody's face, like, here, you're gonna have to accept us because our music is my music is so dope. You're gonna have to.
SPEAKER_01:It's that good, that's right. Yeah, you're gonna deal with it.
SPEAKER_00:Yep, gotta deal with it. I don't care what what you feel inside, you're gonna you're gonna groove with us. And yes, thank you for that. Uh, my I I went in chronological order. I tried to, and I, you know, but uh my criteria was impact in my life, influence in my life, and do I still listen to them? And then also the impact on uh music and pop culture or whatever genre they're in. So my number 10 is Blondie. Uh man. Oh, I love Blondie. Uh, I I've always had a crush on Derby Harry since I was a child.
SPEAKER_01:Well, you can choose you know, worse women have a crush on Macline.
SPEAKER_00:Uh, you know, there's so many pictures of her. I stated before she reminded me like the Marilyn Moreau of rock. It's so many visuals of her everywhere, and then her impact, and people, this is not spoken about enough, is her impact on the early stages of hip hop.
SPEAKER_01:Exactly.
SPEAKER_00:She was on the Blondie was the musical guest on uh Saturday Night Live, and instead of performing, they chose to introduce Funky Four Plus One.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, they did.
SPEAKER_00:Crazy! I I appreciate that so much, and even more so their impact uh hip hop also was Chris Stein was he used the uh he did the soundtrack for uh The Wild Style. And um, I mean we talk about this the start of the uh punk rock scene in New York with uh with the uh Ramones. The Ramones.
SPEAKER_01:Television, the New York Dallas, well the 70s, early 70s.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they they they had they were right here, right there.
SPEAKER_01:They play CBGBs too, though.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so uh and then just also the art scene too, uh, their affiliation with uh Jean, Michelle, Basquiat. I mean, all of that just all ties in, and uh just Rapture is one of my favorite songs.
SPEAKER_01:Uh just without Blondie, there is no Fab Fi Freddy.
SPEAKER_00:Fab Fife Freddy. Oh my yes, and then she puffed up Grandmaster Flash. Grandmaster Flash wasn't able to make the video, so they you would Boscat was in there playing his role. It was just I just love that. Uh and think about set them apart, those other groups that we mentioned, the Ramones, uh, they were able to dabble into disco, pop rock, and song. Reggae too. Yeah, and so that's what set them apart. And the tide is high, call me, and they sold million 40 million records, and so yeah, shout out to uh Debbie Harry and Krishna. I I just love them, man.
SPEAKER_01:I remember back in the day, Parallel Lines was huge. That was a big album.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, ooh, man, I think that was the biggest selling album. It's crazy.
SPEAKER_01:That had to be that one was just amazing.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, amazing. Alright, brother, you next.
SPEAKER_01:Alright, I'm gonna stay in my youth a little bit here and go with the very first band I ever saw live, and that is the Ohio Players. Ooh, fuck you could not tell me when I was nine years old that I was gonna grow up and play sugar play sugar and have a double neck guitar and step into the band. I mean, and the thing is that when I learned about them, and it underround them they were doing skin tight. And then, you know, as that run from skin tight, fire, and honey was just unstoppable. I didn't know they had stuff before that. Yeah, you know, I had no idea. And then my mom and her friend always go to the concerts, and we're like, we wanna go. So I put on my little leisure suit. That's right, you heard me. Leisure suit. And we went to Circle Star Theater and some three times, yeah, and I was just florid. And then late many, many years later, they're playing in um Emeryville. I told my girlfriend, oh, we gotta go see Sugar. They they represent so many great memories uh in my life, and I I still listen to those albums.
SPEAKER_00:Do you still look at them?
SPEAKER_01:I don't know what they're talking about.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, the honey album cover in the city.
SPEAKER_01:Honey was the one that did the end.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Oh, yes. Yeah, that's a great choice, man. They're on my list, but not in the top ten. All right, my number nine, Queen. Oh, I should have thought about that then.
SPEAKER_01:Uh great choice. They blew up live above.
SPEAKER_00:Blew it up! I mean, I mean, took control. I've I mean, besides Michael Jackson, I've I have never seen a crowd just been in awe and and then the the act in command of the crowd like that. This Freddie Murray was man, he's arguably the probably the best front man. You know, you hear that in rock or of all time. I I love Freddie Mercury. Uh I got pictures of him on my wall. I got I got you know, I collect action figures, I got a couple of Freddie Mercury. I probably got three Freddie Mercury uh action figures. His voice it just um outstanding. It's outstanding. And um the Bohemian Raspedy Raspedy, uh that song is just what it's rock, it's opera, just so many, just so many songs into one, and it just it's just a headbuster. And then just uh crazy thing called love, just that that rock ability, that Elvis vibe he gives you. It just I just can't say I can say so much about them. Um, but uh I love them. And yeah, that's that's my number nine, man. Uh Queen. Uh and when I and the Detroit Lions covered uh another one bites the dust. That was cool. And the Detroit Lions, which is you know, historically bad team, but it's a stretch where we were good, and they they uh remade another one bites the dust, and it was just huge. And uh, and their music crossed over to RB because uh I know in our radio station out in Detroit, we played a lot of Queen, and then uh Queen did the soundtrack for the Flash Gordon movie, Flash Gordon, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And their production style really was the first of its kind, and I know that that style affected a band I'm gonna mention in a in a few moments, but the way Roy Thomas Baker, their producer back then, would layer the background vocals, loved it. I I preferred that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And also, too, you know, if Freddie Mercury chose not to get his teeth fixed, you know, he was always teased about his teeth, but I read it, I read a quote from him about that.
SPEAKER_01:He said, I didn't get them fixed because I'm already perfect. I'm like, oh shit, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And he also thought it would change his his tone and his his singing voice, but no, man. But hey, it it was the character, it was part of his character. You know, he saw his teeth, but that was Freddie Mercury. I don't care what his teeth are like, that guy was the man. Uh, but unfortunately, you know, he got caught up in this lifestyle and yeah, um passed away. I remember that. That was that that hit that hit the music world really hard when he passed away. Um yeah. All right, well, all right, Mark, what's your next group? Your next band.
SPEAKER_01:All right, let's um let's move the clock forward a little bit. I noticed that most of mine have been with me since young age and and like junior high and high school, honestly. So we're gonna change gears a little bit. We're gonna get a little more um I take that back. I'm gonna stay back. We're gonna stand past. Okay. Are you ready? You like this one? The Isley Brothers.
SPEAKER_04:Oh yes.
SPEAKER_01:Now I take them because again, back in my youth, I remember summer of 1973. I'm like nine years old, and they come out with the Isley's Live, and I just was hooked. You know, and had work to do on it, uh, popped that thing, love the one you with, which I didn't know was wasn't theirs. And they expanded the band from the three brothers, and added the other two brothers and their cousin Chris, and they just went on their own just rampage from like live it up to fight the power, yeah, yeah. Between the sheets, go for your guns. There's so many. There are so many. Unfortunately, I never got to see them live though, but I love them. Yeah. And Ernie Isley, to my in my opinion, doesn't get near the press he should because a guitar player.
SPEAKER_00:No, I was just about to mention that. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01:Because he was tutored by Jimi Hendrix, and you can't get better than that.
SPEAKER_00:No, man. Oh, you finished?
SPEAKER_01:I'm finished.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. Uh I meant to say this about Queen in 2024. Their catalog sold for$1.2 billion.
unknown:Wow. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Woo! Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:That's where the bass player doesn't torture anymore. It's like, I'm paid. What I what do I need to do?
SPEAKER_00:Right. And um, I'm good.
SPEAKER_01:You guys go do what you do.
SPEAKER_00:Uh uh, yes. This it said uh estimate uh estimate place total worldwide record sell 250 million to 300 million units. That was queen. All right, man. That's right. That's how that's mind blowing. It is that says so much. All right, man. This right here, uh, I've been waiting. I didn't I know I'm gonna get a reaction out of you on this one. Yeah, right. This man sold over four million copies in the United States. Uh their third album sold over one million, and uh and we're talking about Ronnie, Robert, and Charles.
SPEAKER_01:Here you go.
SPEAKER_00:The gap in Greenwood, Archer, and Pine. You know, uh the significant, the historical significance of that in Oklahoma City. Look it up, people, you know, uh Black Wall Street and all that. And I didn't know that until like maybe about five years ago. That's what the gap means. Greenwood, uh, Archer and Pine. And yeah, I knew that.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah, I knew that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so that was that was cool that they did that, but um Gap Band.
SPEAKER_01:I can't I can't front. You know, they had to run.
SPEAKER_00:Gap Band Three was my favorite album from them and Burn Rubber and Yearning for Your Love and Early in the Morning. They just got so many RB hits, and then also, I mean, they crossed over too early in the morning. Uh Party Train.
SPEAKER_01:Party Train. Yes. So Party Train was a jam.
SPEAKER_00:I don't get into I like the gap band, you know. I had I like the gap band, the group, but when um Charlie went solo, I I just I don't know, I just never got into his solo stuff. I just like the gap band music. It was just a soundtrack of my youth. It reminds me of that time, um uh back in 82, 83. Uh just good music at that time, and they slid in there, and uh it just reminds me, especially Burn Burn Rubber on me, it's just one of my favorite songs of all time. And I saw that I happened to have seen them, I think I saw them a couple of times. Um, and also got a chance to see them practice. So it was I was amazed. Uh yeah, so it was pretty good. I saw him practice before uh performance, and so I got there a little early and it was like, oh man, this was a treat because I wasn't expecting that and seeing that. But also, um, I know uh Char Charlie talks about how he how the how his brothers did him wrong, and he really didn't he didn't get paid until he went solo.
SPEAKER_01:See, I read in his uh in his biography that he claimed that their manager, his name was Lonnie Simmons. Yep, really did them wrong. Now there are certain reasons I can't really delve into what you just said about Charlie. Right, right. I can't do it on the air. But I will say that. Um I'm working with the spouse of one of the one of his brothers who is no longer with us, and she is magnificent, and she has hooked me up with four of their gold albums. Oh man. Two platinum and two gold. There it is. Oh man, there you go. We're gonna hang in the office.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, yes. That's that's pretty cool.
SPEAKER_01:How much I can say about Charlie, but I just can't do it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't even expect you to. What about um how much how many how many plaques and stuff like that do you receive from clients?
SPEAKER_01:Well, when I first got into uh the the music side of it, um I did some work for a woman who was the lead singer of the Brian's of Funkenstein. And she said, Marcus, you know, a lot of people within the Clinton organization haven't gotten paid and this and that. So they called me and we straightened it out. But I told them all, I said, Look, look, I'll help you with this, but I want a gold record. Like done. So I've got uh uh Uncle Jam once you one nation under the groove the motherfucking connection and Motor Booty Affair in my office. Uh and one nation under groove is platinum. Yeah, they hang in my office proudly.
SPEAKER_00:That's such a black anthem, one nation under the groove, you know. Such a black uh uh anthem. Uh you still put that on today. The crowd is going crazy.
SPEAKER_01:See what I mean. One nation was great, but what did it for me was knee deep.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:You had to be in shape to get that one on because that song was what 15 minutes.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah. Yeah, knee deep. Knee deep. Well, you got you gotta have the cardio happen if you're gonna be dancing that one. Yeah, knee deep.
SPEAKER_00:Mm-mm-mm. All right, brother, what's your next one? Your next band.
SPEAKER_01:Alright, we're gonna change gears a little bit, going back to my younger, younger days.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:The very first song I heard that I remember is Satisfaction by the Stones.
SPEAKER_00:Ah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I remember hearing it on my grandfather's little transistor radio. I'm like, what's that? I like that. And so I would follow them off and on for years. And some of the stuff I didn't like, but most of it I do like. And they've been a constant presence, you know, in my you know, adolescent years, my teen years, college, law school, and adulthood. They're they're always hard to deal. You know, um I love Mick. I just want to I'm ready to keep his demography as we speak and shelter. If I could own the trademark to a couple of songs, that'll be one of them. Love that song because you can't make a 70s film without that song.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_01:Can't be done.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I I grew up. That's one thing about, you know, uh my taste comes from my mom. She's very eclectic. And like I said, I'm from Inkster, Michigan, which is black. Matter of fact, I don't know if you know the history of Inkster. Henry Ford built Inkster to house his black employees. So uh Yeah, yeah. His race is behind, but he but he gave him he gave black people jobs, but he yeah, he built the city for them, and we all lived out there in Inkster, Michigan. And for my mom to be in the mid smack dab in the middle Inkster playing the Rolling Stones and Rod Stewart and all that. If you came to my mom you came to our house, one album that you as soon as you walk in the house and my mom displaying her albums, you would see some girls. She wore that album out, and that's one of my favorite albums. Also, Black and Blue is another one of my favorite albums. I love those are my two favorite albums uh from the stone.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so I love some girls.
SPEAKER_00:It's one of the best albums.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Some girl. Just ending the album coverage is iconic. Yeah, it is because I was just so confused looking at it, like, what is this? Like, aren't those men? Why they got lipsticking on it? But it's the Stones, one of the best bands of all time. Uh speaking the best bands of all time, my number seven is the Beatles.
unknown:Oh man.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, wrong. It's the Beatles. The Beatles. The Fat Four grew up on them as well. Uh, I mean, from the Bubblegum into the psychedelic, I just grew up with them. Uh, just John and Paul. John John and Paul, they just stand out. You know, we know about George and Ringo. Ringo gets dissed, but these are Beatles. And uh, I went through a run some of these stats. Over 600 million units sold worldwide. Over 1.6 billion singles sold worldwide, and um, and their best album, Sergeant Peppers Lonely Hearts Club, and sold over 32 million. Uh, their compilation one, which I have, also approximately sold over 31 million copies, which is crazy. I have I have both of those albums, but uh Abbey Road is my favorite. The white album's okay, uh, but Abbey Road is my favorite Beatles album, and also uh the beginning, the first couple of albums when it was Bubblegum, Hold Your Hand, and all that. Those songs I still listen to. Uh matter of fact, I I'm going to going back and forth on um TikTok. Somebody posted a um a meme about which which single was better. Uh come together, Michael Jackson's or the Beatles. I'm like, what are you talking about? The Beatles, and they coming after me. Like, you guys don't know. Like the Beatles, that that original version is is rock. It's the Beatles. Michael Michael Jackson and Michael did he even release it as a single? It's on his yeah, not a single, but it's on his history album.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. Okay, so they need this, they need to fall back on that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, they need to fall back. And it's like it was a nice, it was a nice try, you know, attempt, but it's the Beatles, and he goes, he's gonna get, you know, I guess I I appreciate that he introduced maybe that song to other, you know, new people, but you gotta go listen to the Beatles first, man. Oh man, just it's it's funky. It's anyway, man. So and then I even I even like when they did when they did their covers, man. You know, twist and shout. Man, twist and shout is so energetic, and I just I just love the vocals on that, and just the little shouting uh Paul does on there. Just I just love it, man. I just I just love the Beatles, man. I got so many pictures of them all. I got a Beatles clock. Next to Prince, the Beatles catalog is the biggest uh catalog I have in my library next to Prince. So yeah, that's my group. Can't tell me nothing about the Beatles, the batons.
SPEAKER_01:Well, then let me go ahead and double down with my next group. Who are the Beatles? Yeah! When I was a young, young kid, I remember hearing I want to hold no, she loves you, she loves you, yeah, and just freaking out, you know, freaking out, and then uh Yellow Submarine and Strawberry Fields, and the thing is, like you said, they went from like a bubble bubblegum teeny bop act to serious, critically acclaimed musicians. No one does that. And there's a quote from John Lennon, I think, in 1967, they're playing a candlestick, and it's like, I we can't hear ourselves over the screaming, so we're done touring. So they'll make these long-form films and then get into the things with these new uh, shall we say, substances, yeah? New sounds and music. And for me, you're an Abbey Road guy, I am a revolver guy.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, there's can't go bad with that one, man.
SPEAKER_01:Can't go bad with revolver. And I always when I see it that it's available in like a uh deluxe edition in high resolution, I jump right on it every time, every time.
SPEAKER_00:Man, you know, they were getting taxed, they were getting taxed so much. I think it was like 95% were getting taxed of their earnings when they were touring. That's insane. It's crazy. So, you know, they they like, all right, we're gonna get started getting paid under the table. So they're just getting money that way. And uh, and then you talk about the psychedelic and the drugs, they were finding a way to try to get that to each other, and yeah, I just this is the whole story, it's just fascinating. I can't imagine why you know they're taxing them that much, and I believe that's the number. I know it was in the 90s, but I believe it's 95. Like, how can you even make a living getting taxed 95? So, yeah, you're gonna have to find ways to to to circumvent that situation and and um getting that money somehow, but they did, man.
SPEAKER_01:And they you know, loan sharks don't get 95, you know, right? Sopranos, like, how do we get some of this here, man? Shh, man, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:All right, uh, my number six. See, like this is um my number six band. People mistakenly think it's one person, but it's a band, and uh Sade.
SPEAKER_01:It is a band, and they're fantastic.
SPEAKER_00:They're very fantastic. You ever seen them live? You're just like amazed. And you know, it's it's you look you're fascinated by Sade and you know how she sings and how she moves, but listen to the music, it just man, it's like it's a it's a vibe and it puts you in a certain mood. I I love Sade's music. They sold 75 million records globally and um 23 million units in the States alone. Diamond Life like was a headbuster. I when I first heard that, it was like, oh my, I mean, I didn't I didn't I didn't think any songs on there were filler songs. They were like we listened to the whole thing, it was it was non-skippable songs on there, and um that sold over seven million, then six million, then uh the best of shade sold six point six million, which is a good album, but yeah, Diamond Life, uh Kiss of Life, and this I think the first five albums or the first four albums I just love the most. But Diamond Diamond Life is my favorite out in the catalog.
SPEAKER_01:You mentioned seeing them live. I was always a fan, and then I saw the Love Deluxe live video. Um they are a great, great band. They really are. She's fine. Yeah, she's still fine.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, age like wine, man. Fine like wine.
SPEAKER_01:Maybe we can discuss this.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, like fine like wine in the summertime. That's that's what my father said. Fine like wine in the summertime. All right, brother, what's your next uh group?
SPEAKER_01:Band. All right, I have to ask you the musical question, and that is what time is it?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, man.
SPEAKER_01:Love me some time, and the thing is, from an output level, they really weren't together that long.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But their stuff is fire, fire, you know, and they were and the thing is Prince played it all up until I think um pandemonium. But the thing is, the band was so accomplished musically on their own. And you know, and he Prince always would always say he created a monster. Yeah, he did. Yeah, yeah, he did. Because I bet they would wear him out on stage. They were so good and so tight, and they rehearsed constantly, and so when they got to got to the stage, they were doing things that I had never seen before. You know, and I remember when Purple Rain came out. The first thing I'm looking for is when they're playing, like, where's Jesse? Or where's where's Jimmy and Terry?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, where's Monty?
SPEAKER_01:Where's Monty? Who are these guys? You know, and Jimmy and Terry went ahead and did something with Alexander O'Neill, and my sister told me about that. I bought that album because of Jimmy and Terry, not because of Alexander, because they were control. I bought that because of Jimmy and Terry. And I've had opportunity to uh see Jesse Johnson live a few times. He signed my guitar for me. Great guy. And they again for having such a small output, yeah, comparatively speaking to anybody else, they could they could do a headline tour right now and sell out.
SPEAKER_00:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:And last thing they did at the time, I think they did a residency in Vegas. I should have gone to that. If they ever with the original cats again, I'm there.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I gotta make it happen.
SPEAKER_01:I have football up a college football update. Michigan has held on to beat the Northwestern Wildcats. Hey.
SPEAKER_00:I'm the rare person that lives in Michigan who's an Ohio State fan.
SPEAKER_01:Oh yeah, can you imagine that?
SPEAKER_00:Can you imagine that old man? I am. I was out yesterday. Uh, went to physical therapy, had my Ohio State hoodie on, and it was like, what do you wear? And then first, first, like we beat you a five in a row. Okay, okay, okay, but before that, we beat y'all eight in a row. So what now? And we won the championship last year. Well, it doesn't matter.
SPEAKER_01:You walk around Michigan flying Ohio State colors?
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yes.
SPEAKER_01:You you are a better man than I am.
SPEAKER_00:And people cannot resist what I was, they can't resist saying something to me. I'm like, this lady. So when I wear my Ohio State uh paraphernalia, I already I'm already expecting somebody to give me some type of feedback.
SPEAKER_01:Before I left uh the Bay Area, I was a big Stanford fan. And I'd walk around Berkeley in my Stanford gear, and that's nowhere near the heat you must be getting up there.
SPEAKER_00:I get heat. And like I said, it was been five years in a row, four years in a row. I hear it, especially online at work. It just I can't escape it. So I just I just have to take it, man. I just I can't wait for we for Ohio State to beat Michigan. It's time. Let's go.
SPEAKER_02:It's all wild.
SPEAKER_00:Before they won that championship a couple years ago, I just I just unearned or arrogance, man. I can't, I don't like that team. And I live in Ann Arbor for about three years, and I just I love the people, but I I just hate the vibe, man. Just everything was maze and blue out there, and I was just uh I I wore my Ohio State proudly at times. Don't get me wrong, I know my place, man. I know where to wear it and where not to wear it. Okay, good because people people ready to pull up the dukes, and I ain't got time for that. I'm too old to be putting up dukes. I didn't got cussed out online for that. Like, why I'm like, I why you cuss me out? I'm just I'm just showing my allegiance to my school, you know. To my team, man. What's wrong with that? Yeah, why you gonna cuss me out? Like, this must just be a nice little fun back and forth. But you want to cuss me out, call me out my name? It's unnecessary.
SPEAKER_01:Some people just gotta drink the header, man. They just do it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, okay. All right, my next band is Tony Tony Tony. This is probably the band that I grew up with. Uh around the same age. Saw them when they first uh when they first came out, they toured with Alexander O'Neill and um Alexander O'Neill. True, huh? Yeah, Alexander O'Neill, Tony, Tony, Tony, and True. Uh it was a free concert. I don't know if they toured, but it was a free concert in Detroit.
unknown:Wow.
SPEAKER_00:And I remember it just it was a really hot day. And uh I just I remember seeing Tony Tony and Tony like they just looked different. They were wild, they had the you know, like the hippie look, and and they were great musicians. And then uh Raphael Sadiq is a great front man, and back then he was, you know, he you could he hadn't the confidence that he you know eventually uh gained, but he still put on a good show. And um was it? They only put out four albums, you know, like low output, like you spoke about at the time. Uh six million. So Sons of Soul, probably my favorite album of them. I did uh Sons of Soul review with Mike Dean on his podcast. Oh, cool. Um, the albums Who? Revival House of Music. Uh great albums. Um I gotta say, I just I love it. They did disband it after the fourth uh fourth album, and I want to say shout out and um rest in peace to Wayne Wiggins, the brother of Raphael. So yes, definitely. Yeah, he was a good musician as well. Alright, brother.
SPEAKER_01:Alright, now what we have the final four, and these are the four heavyweights for me.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:And geez, I don't know which one to start with first. Yes, I do. We're gonna start with the most visual, loud, explosive band there will ever be and has ever been. Kiss.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I figured you about to say that, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Oh yes. When I first heard about them in like seventh grade, I had no clue. Yeah, and then I saw them on Don Kirkster's rock concert, okay, and I was all in. Like the platform shoes, the guitars, the fire, the explosions, like, yep, this is me. This is where I live. And I've been a fan ever since. And the thing is, I've seen them so many times, but I've never seen them without their makeup.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, I was about to ask you that. Okay, wow. Interesting.
SPEAKER_01:It just worked out that way. I mean, it's not why I would say, oh man, they took their makeup, they suck. Uh it didn't work out.
SPEAKER_00:When did they take when did they stop wearing the makeup?
SPEAKER_01:That was they stopped in 1981. Two. Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Two. After the creatures of the night tour, which I did see, they took off the makeup because Ace had left the band. They'd already fired Peter, and Ace left the band. And Paul and Gene had a discussion. They're like, dude, we gotta do something. Because the the crowds are shrinking and this ain't working. And Paul said, let's just take it off. And the thing is, they didn't tell anyone that they were gonna do that until they recorded the next album. And they didn't tell their touring agent. So when they started that tour in Venezuela, I believe, they went up there with no makeup on. And the fans, like, who are these guys?
SPEAKER_00:Right. Oh man. All right, man. Uh I never really got into them. I just saw you know the commercial stuff. Um, I was kind of scared. When I was a kid, I was kind of scared of them, man. Be honest with you. I wasn't scared of them. They really frightening to me. But uh I appreciate, I appreciate that. I appreciate their their catalog and all that. I get I'll have some of their songs in my catalog, but I'm not like a huge kids fan, but I appreciate them and I understand why people love them so much. My fourth band. One of the best bands of all time. Uh I I think about it, I grew up with these with their music, not knowing that this group, this band was or these songs was coming from. I didn't know until I saw their documentary, uh, The History of the Eagles.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, it's a great documentary.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, like that's all they did was fight, and I just loved it. And man, um recently saw them uh 2017, you know, they uh Vince Gill was in the group, and he he does a tremendous job, but you know, he sung um Take It to the Limit, and uh and I thought he did a great job, but when you go back and listen to Randy Meisner, he tears that song up. And I saw in the interview where he originally didn't want to do that song, and it was it reminded me of when Johnny Gill was asked to do Boys and Men, and he was kind of upset. But he's like, you know what, I'm gonna do my best. And Randy didn't see himself as like lead like that, but he tore that song up, and it is like apples to oranges when you listen to Vince Gill singing, and then Randy Meisner, and that that's I don't know that's my favorite Eagle song, but uh just beautiful song. Um their catalog is unmatched, that's why Michael Jackson's as a solo artist goes back and forth with the greatest hits of the Eagles, and just they just go back and forth. It just and and the songs that I didn't um know, uh, but they're just like when you listen to them, like you could just feel the music because it's just great. It's great musicianship. When I saw him in concert, they just I mean everything sounded great. Everything it was nothing in the song. Uh, you know, I was always interested, and they kept my it kept my attention the whole time, and it was a long, it was a long uh concert, but I love every minute of it. And we Joe Walsh, man, he just he commands the crowd. He just I I was like, I was like, if he's not here, I'd be so upset. And he walked out. I think he got the biggest ovation when Joe Walsh came out. It's like, yes, Joe Walsh. I just love Joe Walsh and Don Henley and Rest in Peace, Glenn Fry. I think uh his son, Deacon Fry, he's in the band right now. Uh you got Don Felder and um man, and nobody Timothy B. Schmidt, his voice sounds like an angel. His voice sounds like a woman, but it's like that was one of the best pickup when they chose to get him in the band. And yeah, I he just he's such a singer, man, and performer. That's one of my favorite bands. I love the Eagles. Uh I yeah, I just I listen to Eagles probably more than any band and I'll you know talk about, maybe except the one I got listed at number one, but I listen to the Eagles so much.
SPEAKER_01:You know, yeah, 38 times Junior High. That's it. Oh 38 times what?
SPEAKER_00:Uh platinum, 38 times platinum. Damn uh in the US. Damn! It's crazy.
SPEAKER_01:Woo! So another word is triple diamond. That's amazing. That's amazing. When I was in junior high, I would always argue with people you know about the Eagles. Because I was in the KISS in Zeppelin, and they're like, well, the Eagles are a rock band. I'm like, you're not a rock band, you're a country man. Shut up. And I never gave them their respect until, like you mentioned, I watched the history of the Eagles. That has to be the whoever directed that, that's where the estate should get to the punches. It was amazing. It made me a fan.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:After I watched all the hours of it, I'm like, you know what? I'm I'm giving giving these guys a shot. Because in the in the film, it was Don Henley who said, Look, man, we're just a country rock band trying to do our thing. Like, there you go.
SPEAKER_03:There you go.
SPEAKER_01:That's all I need to hear. And as you watch the film, uh, you mentioned um Randy Meisner. I remember in the film, Meisner's like, Well, I don't want to sing it tonight. And Glenn Fry was like, Maybe get your ass up there and sing. Right. Oh problem. He said, He said, people came to see you, and here you hit that note, get your ass up there and go. Like, I heard that, man. Yeah, I bought their entire catalog, and it's it's outstanding. I didn't care for um On the Border. Yeah, yeah, no, just Dylan Dalton. That was all too cowboy fantasy for me. But my favorite song is, and you mentioned Timothy B. Schmidt, is um I just lost my head. I just lost singing the song. Uh help me out. It's on the long run.
SPEAKER_00:Uh uh.
SPEAKER_01:I can't tell you why. I can't tell you why.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Sounds like an angel, man. He sounds like an angel.
SPEAKER_01:I love that song. Yeah. That was a fantastic song. That is a great choice. Yeah. Great choice.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, let's put this man up front. And um, it's RB. It's it's it's so it's so soulful. Yeah, very soulful.
SPEAKER_01:And when they when they broke up, they had played this thing for Alan Cranston, and what was the man's name? The lead guitarist shot his mouth off. Who felt like, I'm kicking my ass. What was his name? Felder, Don Felder. Don Felder. It was Don Felder, yeah. Yeah, oh yeah.
unknown:That dude, man.
SPEAKER_01:And Fry's like, I'm kicking your ass. Yeah, you can hear it on stage too. No more songs, but it's me and you.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that guy.
SPEAKER_01:But that's how it is in bands, man. You know, you can't be together 24-7 and not get on somebody's nerves at some point. That's what the reality is like.
SPEAKER_00:Well, that's what the charm of that uh documentary just fought all the time.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah, they were freaking out.
SPEAKER_00:Uh and um friend, nobody. Yes, born to Detroit, yes, sir. Um Hotel California, 26 times platinum. And I I think you said um you got to a place with Purple Rain, you would you got to the same place with Hotel California. I I every time I hear it, I don't care. I want the because I think that was the first song that was on the radio that they they didn't want that uh that single shortened. Like when you play Hotel California, play it in play it all. Yeah, play it in entirety. The whole six six and change of that, and I just love the dueling guitar on that on that song. Man, just and then that talking about a live album, the Eagles Live.
SPEAKER_01:You know, there's some out some songs that shouldn't be shorting, you know. That's one of them, stare with heaven, uh you know, Bohemian Rap City. Let them play out, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Let them play out. Cause yeah, yeah, you would do that song, just a disservice. You'll be doing the the listener disservice by shorting it. You gotta play that whole because they was those songs that you just mentioned, those are master pieces. Master pieces in Hotel California is one of my favorite songs of all time, and it's a masterpiece. I just mm-mm. It's so dark, but it's it's like I love hearing it, man. All right, my guy. What you got next?
SPEAKER_01:All right, I'm gonna keep it in that that era. And you mentioned uh Freddie Mercury had a great voice. Yeah, one this person is one of the few that can compete with him. Yeah, go ahead. Journey.
SPEAKER_00:Oh stay fairy! Yes, yes, I knew you were gonna say that.
SPEAKER_01:Uh yeah, they were just they had they had their run too, and I had seen them so many times, and his voice is just unstoppable. You know, it's like, how do you how do you get a voice like that? You know, and I just loved everything they did. I take that back. One thing I didn't like was when Neil Shump, not Neil Shump, when uh Greg Rowley left and Jonathan Kane came in. Now they got bigger success, but I just preferred Greg Rowley. Yeah, I'm funny that way. But Steve Perry's voice and Tina Turner is quoted as saying during the whole um We Of the World sessions, she said the white boy stole that song. She said him, uh Springsteen and uh Daryl Hall, they stole it. I'm like, do what you do, fellas. Man, I love Journey and I love Steve Perry's voice. Uh the new guy, he's I'd say he's about 95% of Steve Perry.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:90%, but it ain't the same. No, it's not the same. It's not the same. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:The guy that's uh the admin to the music book pod uh music book uh group on Facebook, Tony Maw, is that's his favorite group of all time. So anytime you post anything, Journey, he just he's gonna hard it and he he talks about him. He sees them. He he he goes to every concert. Whenever they come in concert, he's going to see Journey. And he he talked, uh, what is that guy's name? That the new singer uh came.
SPEAKER_01:Well, the new guy?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, what's his name?
SPEAKER_01:Asian Arnell Arnell, he's Filipino, yeah. Arnell Aneda, I believe. Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Talked about that. Uh my favorite journey song is Who's Crying Now? I just love it's I just love that song, especially when I'm in the car driving, riding down the street, hearing um Who's Crying Now? I just I just get hypnotized. I'm just like, I don't see anything but the road, and just that song just like keeps me just focused. I love that. And open arms too. Open arms is a beautiful rock ballad.
SPEAKER_01:Um I love that escape escape album is fantastic. Okay, it's a flawless album, it really is.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, sir. Uh my number three we talked about before earlier, uh, the time. Uh yeah, you said a lot about them. One thing about the time is we know, uh when you you could when it you know it's a great band when you can name all the members and you know them by their personality and what instrument they play. Just it's like that's just one of those bands that you know everybody, and um, yeah, I just can't say enough about the time, but you say it a lot, and I'm just gonna just leave it at that. And but yeah. Uh, my favorite album there, maybe what time is it is probably my favorite. Oh, have still have to be. Okay, and don't forget, and I I did enjoy the original seven as well. Uh, Toast of the Party Girl, and all that stuff.
SPEAKER_01:Off a great album. And the thing is, with that album, you can tell which songs are Jesse's. Because the guitar is turned way up in the mix.
SPEAKER_04:Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01:Well, that's Jesse. Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Trending. All right, man. Getting our top two.
SPEAKER_01:Let's go. Alright. Alright, here we go. This now, Ohio Party was the first band I ever saw. This is the first group I ever saw without adult supervision.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:1981, Oakland Coliseum, Fair Warning Tour, The Mighty Van Halen. Oh!
unknown:Yes, Dad.
SPEAKER_01:I was blown away. Yeah, because I knew who they were, obviously. I knew a lot of their stuff, but I had never seen them. And a friend of mine was like, hey man, there's a Coliseum. You know, for three nights, you wanna go? No, I don't wanna go. Then change your mind the next time like, let's go. And we went. And there are times, and this is where I really learned this. There are times with any band, right before they break big, that's the tour you want to see. So if I use Prince as an example, you don't want to see Purple Rain. You wanna see 1999.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, sir.
SPEAKER_01:You know Michael Jackson, you wanna see off the wall. And with this one, this was the tour. They were out there, they were the best rock band in the nation, and they were working hard to show it too. I was just stunned by it. And the cool thing is, they shot footage for that and released three of those performances live in videos, and I'm gonna send this to you right now because where is it? For that tour, and only that tour, Eddie played a certain guitar. And that guitar, well a replica of it, is hanging in my well, sits in my bedroom on the bookcase. It was called the Circles guitar. And the minute they started producing it with Eddie's company, I got I had an album.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_01:That guitar is in my office.
SPEAKER_00:Man, I would love to see our souvenirs, man.
SPEAKER_01:And I prefer just in case anyone's questioning me, yeah. I prefer them with Dave. Sorry.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, better for it. I'll I'd say what Cat Bar.
SPEAKER_01:But Dave is the better entertainer.
SPEAKER_00:Diamond Dave!
SPEAKER_01:They was fantastic.
SPEAKER_00:Uh what got me? I I I mean, I like, you know, uh, I I I started listening to them uh, you know, '84, 1984, that album. That's what I they came on my radar. And uh I like jump and Panama Baja Teacher.
SPEAKER_03:Yep.
SPEAKER_00:I love that video. Man, I just and I just became a uh David Lee Roth fan after that, too. And then I went back and started listening to the other albums and stuff like that. Um The Best of Both Worlds, Eruption, and all that stuff. So yeah. Mm-mm. Great, great choice, great choice. Uh my second band is the revolution. Um Revolution Hat Man. Uh, yeah, I just another band that you know everybody, you know, all the members of that. And um, so wouldn't it like would that be like when Prince gave them the title and then they were put on the albums? Was that starting with Purple Rain? Was that from Purple Rain?
SPEAKER_01:1999.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, yeah, 1999. What's I thought? 99, Purple Rain, Around the World in a Day, and uh Parade. Parade. Yep. I listened to those albums like they came out yesterday. And a lot of people say, yeah, my favorite Prince album is 1999, and so I just uh man, yeah, just Wendy coming in in the group and Brown Mark, like I said, a band that you know all the members, and I still listen to the music like like it just came out yesterday. So um, yeah, before the the lit the uh the show I did before about the bands, I had this, and I had that band that really didn't have a name, the band that was after this with the Sheila and all that, and uh I was like, uh Oh, we call that the Side of the Times band. Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_01:And so, yeah. Uh, the MPG yet. So sign of the Times band.
SPEAKER_00:All right, that's all I gotta say about those guys.
SPEAKER_01:Prince and a revolution. So here we are. Number one, and I hate to uh piggyback on your thunder, but I'm gonna go ahead and say Prince and the new power revolution. Okay, all of all of his bands, you know, again, he he somehow will find these outstanding musicians, and it's like, look, if you can keep up, great. If you can't, there's the door. You know, and I've seen The Revolution, I've seen NPG, I've seen Third Eye Girl, and it's always something new and different. You know, you can't go to a Prince show and say, We did the same show last night. Uh uh. No. No. No. You never know what's gonna see. I and I tell people to this day, and no disrespect to Mr. Jackson, but if you've seen his show, you've seen his show.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But Prince, you don't know what he's gonna do with the next day. You know, he can do some something completely different. Yeah, and it's always musicianship, it's always fun. There's a song they did on the um mantro tour from like 2012 when he did three nights. And I was embarrassed that I didn't know the song off the top of my head. It's on 3121, it's called Love. I'm like, what's that? And they just did the instrumental part. I'm like, this is the jam, okay. And the good thing about so many bands, I'm gonna throw Bruno Mars in there, too, is sometimes when a band is so good live, they just can't capture it on vinyl. Yeah, right, right. You know, yeah, and that's why I I think Princess both his live albums, they should let me produce them. Because they I would have torn it up. Man, I mean, it would have been on, it would have been on and pop them.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, man. So I'm about to go to my number one, and I'm surprised this this you haven't even mentioned this band. You probably know where I'm about to go with this. This band, I'm uh I gotta I gotta set them up. Over 90 million records worldwide, more than 50 platinum and gold albums. Uh uh uh the band has released 23 albums that have eight number one RB singles, and this band is none other than Earth Went in Fire. Um I don't mention, I don't mention Earth Went and Fire and Shining Star is their biggest selling single, which is was really yeah, I couldn't believe over a million. Yes, it man, when I look this up, that's what it had. But September has to be now, man. It has to because I've I recently, matter of fact, on the 21st of September, they were on TV. I'm watching, I'm flicking surfing the channel, and I'm watching Earth Wind and Fire doing a concert in honor of September 21st. Man, I was I was so amazed and like, man, they still relevant. The crowd was crazy. I've seen, I think I've seen them twice. Um This without Maurice though, which is one of my favorite, I know, which is my favorite, because uh it's my one of my favorite lead singers, and you got Verdeen, of course, Philip Bailey and Ralph Johnson.
SPEAKER_01:Um man, it's just that's Maurice held that band together, he really did.
SPEAKER_00:Man, yeah. Uh yeah, he uh yeah, he did, man. Just his his spiritual, his spiritual uh approach to it, and just how he just was. And his his vocals contrast to Philip Bailey's falsetto. I mean, it's all the music of my youth, you know. Uh I remember when I was in college, when I got to college, and um it's like you know, since I'm in since I'm in Louisiana, I went to Graham State. Since I'm in Louisiana, I'm gonna try yeah, yep. Andy Robinson. And so check it out. So I'm like, I'm in, I'm in Louisiana, and I'm about to try Columbia House again, right?
SPEAKER_01:Oh, there you go.
SPEAKER_00:So I did, and the first two cassettes that I got was uh the best of Earth Windows Fire one and two. And um I remember uh we had this uh this guy that had this house off campus, and he was like, you know, yeah, you know, you take your little lady friends over there, but it it was uh it was just a house that had no electricity, no running water, right? It was just a place just to just get busy, right? And I remember one night I had this little uh radio I got from Bit Lot Big Lots, it was a little small little radio, and um it had the auto reverse to it, which you just put the tape in and just go to the next side. And this and I remember back in the day, auto reverse was a was a must, was a must, right? You know, it was just continuous music, and I remember, like I said, this house which just had no electricity, and we live in Seattle, so it even got cold down there when I was down there, and um we were just chilling on the couch listening to earth went in fire, and we just kept hearing this rustling, man. Gonna find those rats in this house. We had the candle, we had a little candle, it was a little mood going on, earth went and fire, candle, and there's rats wrestling around. I remember just grabbing objects, it's just throwing in that direction and stuff like that. And yes, the girl couldn't get comfortable, you know. She can't she couldn't get comfortable at all. But we know this song's reasons is one of the best songs ever, especially the live version. Uh man, exactly. The saxophone, that's the way of the world, shining star, like I mentioned before. And uh, I would tell you that song, it's no song like Love's Holiday. It's still bumped to this day. And if you whatever you're doing, if you in the middle, do if you're doing your thing or you slow dancing and you stare at this woman's eyes and you mouth the lyrics to that. I mean, they just melt, man. Uh serpentine fire fantasy after the love is gone. Let's groove. Ah their music is so timeless. Uh, this, you know, all these songs a lot. You know, we were kids in the 70s and and 80s, and they're still relevant to this day. Like I said, it was just past September 21st, and I wasn't even expecting it. Turn the channel. There goes Philip Bailey, just doing his thing. Uh, still can hit those notes, singing both Maurice's parts and then um his falsetto. It's just amazing, amazing band, amazing band.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I remember in like 1979 or so. I'm hanging out in Concord, you know, it's like at the end of the disco era, and I walk by this electronics store, and they're showing a laser disc of Earth Wind and Fires, you know, a live performance. And I stopped, and what caught my attention was, and again, this is a live performance, but the sound. Oh, I have never heard a live band play like this. I mean, Maurice oversaw their sound system personally, yeah, it sounded amazing. I'm like, that's what I want to hear on stage. I mean, any feedback or nothing, it sounded fantastic, and that's what I got my intention.
SPEAKER_00:And we'd be remiss not to mention the horns action.
SPEAKER_01:This was just made a name for themselves as a horse action.
SPEAKER_00:Oh man. No, I'm over getting chill bumps, uh, goosebumps.
SPEAKER_01:There are there there is, there is. There's a group of Ukrainian musicians called Leonid and Friends. They do covers of Earth Wind and Fire, Chicago, uh, Steely Dan. And a friend of mine turned me on to them. I'm like, man, get out of here. I went to YouTube and watched them do fantasy. Damn. It's close. They're musicians-wise, fantastic. Wow. The guy singing uh the Philip Bailey parts, he ain't Philip Bailey, but he ain't bad either.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:I'm like, okay, okay, fellas, I see what you're trying to do.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But when they tour back this way, I'm gonna go see him. Yeah. I was that impressed.
SPEAKER_00:What'd you think about Verdeen, though?
SPEAKER_01:I like Verdeen as we get older. Verdeen is like an elder statement for the bass guitar. I mean, and he's such a great interview. So in fact, I'm gonna try to wrangle him for the interview myself at some point. And he's a fantastic bassist. I'm glad Maurice brought him to the band. Did you read Maurice's biography?
SPEAKER_00:I haven't, I haven't. It's on my list.
SPEAKER_01:I haven't no, I haven't got it yet, but I it's on my list. I read his, I read Philip Bailey's, and Maurice, you know, said, look, I had to run the band. Sometimes that wasn't a popular decision with people, but my duty was to the band. Like, I heard that, man.
SPEAKER_00:Verdeen is an excellent, um, also is a great performer, too. I mean, you you I'm watching it, you see him in the corner, he just like, man, like, is he on cocaine? Like, he just is bouncing all over, just going back and forth, and just playing it, and just he has so much energy.
SPEAKER_01:And then when you talk to him or watch him talk, he's so relaxed. Yes, yeah, yeah, he's so cool. Yeah, but on stage, he's like um my man for the chili peppers. He's like fleet, flea, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Just yeah, that music just like they just go with that music with that with that vibe and that they ride that. Yeah. All right, man. Let's let's get into some honorable mentions, yeah. Yeah, let's get into my honorable mentions. Go ahead. What you got? What you got?
SPEAKER_01:These are some new cats, and I gotta put them on there. Bruno Mars and the hooligans.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Because when I first I'd heard of him back in like 2013, I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever. And then they were playing at the Grammys. I'm like, let me see for myself. And they went out there and did a one runaway baby and just blew it to bits.
SPEAKER_03:I love it.
SPEAKER_01:I'm like, okay, yeah, okay. And then a friend of mine is just weighing to them, and he saw all this footage, and I watched the CBS special that he used to be Apollo years ago. That band is skin tight. Yeah. I I love them. You know, they get the steps in, they they play. You know, I I there's nothing bad I can say about that band. But again, the only thing I can say is they just don't capture it on vinyl.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:He needs to do a live DVD or album.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So people can see what he really does.
SPEAKER_00:Uh, I have a live version of Treasure in my MI library. I just love that. They just tore that. I love Treasure, but they tore it down. Uh a band, a recent band, Maroon 5. Only off one album, Songs of Jane. Have you heard that album, Songs of Jane, by Maroon 5?
SPEAKER_01:I've heard of it. I have not heard it.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. It came out, I think, 2003, but I didn't get a hold of it till like around 2005. I was I was asleep, woke, I was waking up, and Saturday Live was doing like some type of special, and they were doing a rundown of the musical guest, and and I saw uh She Would Be Love. They were singing that, and I and that song just like, oh man, song sounds beautiful. And I knew that they had a number in a group, I mean the name of the group, and I remember just trying to find a group that had five in it, and five, and I just was man, I was on a hunt for this. And I finally was listening to a I don't know, video came on, or I was listening to radio, but they said Maroon Five, and I was like, oh, and I went and saw. And when you listen to Songs It's Jane, it has a soulful uh backdrop to it. And come to find out, they um when they did that album, Adam Levine, they channeled uh Motown, and you can hear it, you can hear the Motown influence of that, and um, it made me fall in love with music again. I mean, I always fall in love with music, but I just was I was just like, man. And so I couldn't wait for the next album. Next album was okay. Hey, what's funny is that that Songs of Jane album was influenced by Motown. Their second album was influenced by Prince, and they didn't capture that well. And it seemed like, and then I had different members, and they just didn't capture me like they did in their first Songs of Jane um album. If you get a chance to listen to Songs of Jane, I think you'll like it. Uh it's a mix of uh pop rock and um RB. It's great albums.
SPEAKER_01:I'm always about stepping out of my comfort zone and trying new stuff, always.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that one songs of Jane. I mean, I just I wore that out. I wore that out. It's just beautiful. It was not a maybe one skippable song on the whole album. I think it had like 11 cuts on there, maybe one skippable with the rest of them. And think about it is Songs about Jane. He was he was going through a heartbreak, and those songs are geared to that. And I was and think about it would resonate with me. I was going through a heartbreak. I was had just broken up with my longtime girlfriend, and so that song carried me through that breakup. And um, yeah, I'll be ever grateful for that album and that discovery of that. And I was like, ah, I love it. All right, man. Um, just just let's rattle off some um groups, bands, real quick, and then we out of here. What do you think about Rufus?
SPEAKER_01:You know, when I was a kid, I didn't really care for Rufus, but as I got older, and what really did it, she opened for Prince on his emancipation tour.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, man.
SPEAKER_01:On a leg here. I'm like, okay, let's see what she can do.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:She tore it up, tore it apart. She did. I'm like, okay, shock it, baby. Yeah, I apologies for the disrespect. I was wrong. She tore it up. As a result of that, I've gotten back into her into her back catalog, and on his um uh what do you call it? Piano on the mic tour, he naturally played Sweet Thing, yeah, which is a great song. Yeah, great song. I didn't know Stevie Wonder wrote Tell Me Something Good either. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Uh I don't know. She said I think she said her father was a horn player, and so when she sings, her voice she imitates. She said, if you listen to me, uh I imitate a horn. And when you go back and listen to it, like, yeah, she sounds like a horn. Uh just the style, her style of singing is horn-like. And I was like, uh, but yeah, she said that on. I think she was on Quest Left when she mentioned that.
SPEAKER_01:Uh yeah, you mentioned Quest. I had to give it up to Quest. I couldn't name one root song, but I love his interviewing style. Yeah, oh yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Uh all right, what about Coolin the Gang?
SPEAKER_01:Well, there's two there's two factions. There's the original Coolin' the Gang with Jungle Jungle Boogie, and then the JT Taylor years.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, they went pop then.
SPEAKER_01:They were pop and they were unstoppable during the JT Taylor years. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:They never went the same when he weren't the same when he left either.
SPEAKER_01:Nope. Nope. I mean, I don't know why he left, but again, it's a band. There's always gonna be problems, and he just decided he'd had enough, and then he left. Like, all right, man, I get it. I get it. Yeah. But they were from from Ladies' Night until he left, yeah, they were on an incredible run.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, ladies' night to stone love.
SPEAKER_01:Stone Love, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Uh you ever get into no doubt?
SPEAKER_01:They're gonna be here in December, and a client of mine asked me for tickets. I said, Let me make a call. So I made a call to the promoter and hooked him up.
SPEAKER_00:They had a nice run, too. My favorite album is Tragic Kingdom.
SPEAKER_01:Um too much scoff for me. They too scoff.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they they from from the 90s until the early 2000s, they just they put out some great albums. I followed them. I I like her when she's with the band. I don't I like some of her solo stuff, uh, but she doesn't seem like the same person. I mean, I guess she matured and she into uh different things, and she married to that guy. What's his name? Um, the guy on the voice, the the country singer. I can't think of his name. His name escapes me. Blake Shelton? Yeah, Blake Shelton. And um, so yeah, it just but yeah, I I I enjoyed when she was younger. Uh what about the Commodores?
SPEAKER_01:I just finished up Lionel Richie's biography.
SPEAKER_00:How was it?
SPEAKER_01:It is excellent.
SPEAKER_00:Is it a long read? Is it a long read or a listen? Oh, you get your money's worth.
SPEAKER_01:It's like 400 and something pages.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_01:Well, you get your money's worth, but it it it reads very it flows, it really does. Okay, and there are things that I knew, and there are things that I thought I knew. Okay, and he addressed them all. You know, he addressed them all. Now, the guitar player uh Ronald, not LePrand, um Thomas McClary, he had a book. I read his book, and in his book, he said, Look, the band threw Lionel out. I'm like, no, yeah, because he was doing all these ballads, and Walter Orange was like, Look, man, we don't want to do any more ballads. Walter was like, they're selling, we don't want to do them, and so Lionel took Lady and gave it to Kenny Rogers, and that was it. He's like, I'm out of here. You guys enjoy this, enjoy starving. I'm done. Yeah, and one thing that Barry Gordy didn't do, and I learned this out of in Lionel's book, when when Barry brought in an act, and that they wrote, Barry would always get a hand on their publishing. But what Barry didn't do with this is he got Lionel's publishing with stuff he wrote for the Commodores, but not for stuff he wrote for people outside of the Commodores. So Endless Love, uh Lady, We're the World, all 100% owned by Lionel Richie.
SPEAKER_00:Good stuff.
SPEAKER_01:So he he's well, well off. And he talks about what happened with Brenda and how she showed up and brought a hand the whip ass with her. Yeah, but then he admitted his thoughts and like the song which's all any of us can do.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah. I mean, Can't Slow Down is one of the best albums, but I mean, man, at the 80s. Uh, let's see. Uh Climax. What do you think about Climax?
SPEAKER_01:Oh man, see, yeah. I I predate people's talking about climax and say, you know, meeting and ladies room. Uh-uh, uh-uh. I go back to like 1980 with climax. Okay. There was a little cable access channel in Oakland called Soul Beat. It was terrible, low budget, no budget, but they'll get these groups that you never heard of. And they brought Climax up on one day, and they sang a song called Never Underestimate the Power of a Woman. I'm like, okay, they're good. Why am I not saying them? And a few years later, I gotta meet in the ladies.
SPEAKER_00:Were they the same members? Were they the same members?
SPEAKER_01:Yes, same members.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:I didn't know that Jimmy Jam and Terrell was produced some of the early stuff. I had no idea. But they were really good. But again, egos tour.
SPEAKER_00:This one it was like three versions out there right now. Yep. Uh Cheryl Cooley, Bernadette Cooper, and um Joyce Erby's, I believe.
SPEAKER_01:Joyce Erby, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that's a good thing.
SPEAKER_01:Bernadette is like the recognized leader, yeah. But the musical genius was Joyce.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Now I don't know why Cheryl Cooley is out there trying to be slicking things around. Yeah, or the band should be getting like too. Cheryl, that ain't cool.
SPEAKER_00:Uh what songs did she sing? She didn't sing any of them. She just she just a guitar player, right? She was just a guitar player, exactly. Cheryl. I think it was I think it was Herbie. You know, it's like, yeah, Cheryl Cooley was cool, or something like that. But they but you still got to rock the boat, that's all. Yeah, right. You got you split her in three groups. That's just terrible, man. Because I just never worked. No, and I just posted a video in uh music book uh where Bernadette was you know doing their song, and uh, but yeah, it's not the same, you know. You gotta have Joyce Irby's Michael Jackson sound in the voice, and it just man, it's it's missing. I miss you, and and I love that song, Man Size Love, that was on a running scared soundtrack.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, love that movie, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Rod Temper 10. Um, I did his thing on that song, but yeah, that's a great movie, man. I love that movie. Love Buddy Cops and Billy Christ or Gregory Hines and Rest in Peace, Gregory Hines. That was a good movie. Uh, what about the police?
SPEAKER_01:Again, back in my uh high school era days, I would hang out in the in the arcade playing pinball and non-stop. Every fifth song was rock sand. I'm like, can we get something else on here, please? And then I start listening to him, and there's a song on, I think it's in Yada Mandata called Voices is a sign in my head. I love it. I'm like, there we go. Yeah, but you can see where this was going too, though.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:You can see it was becoming the sting show, yeah. Yeah, the sting show.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I I like you know, they had the little reggae influence. Yeah, pretty good, man. Uh one of my favorite bands, Duran Duran. What do you think about them?
SPEAKER_01:I used to, I can I can own this. When they first came out, I was really critical. Okay. And I mean really critical.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:And then I'm like, you know what? Don't be that guy, man. Give this, give these dudes a listen. And so when um Seven and the Ragged Tiger came out, and then Arena, I'm like, okay, this is this isn't bad. This is all TD bopper for me.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But what really got my attention was when they split up and did Power Station and Arcadia. I loved Power Station.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Then they got back together and did a cover of uh White Lines. I'm like, I haven't heard that.
SPEAKER_00:I haven't heard that.
SPEAKER_01:You guys hear that? You need to hear that. Okay, I'm gonna check that out. I'm like, I can get into this one. And then they did um the two of my two favorite songs, um Come Undone and driving me crazy now. And they were came right around they came out around the same time. It was Come Undone and what year is that? I'd say like ninety five, ninety six, right around there.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, okay. Yeah, it wasn't listen that.
SPEAKER_01:Much then by that time.
SPEAKER_00:Uh yeah, stuck with the 80s. I was the Union of the Snake and Rio and all.
SPEAKER_01:Oh yeah. Oh yes.
SPEAKER_00:And they spearheaded that. I mean, even though Michael Jackson blew it open, before Michael Jackson put his imprint on MTV, uh, it was the Duran Duran show for me. I just like all their videos are like like like short movies.
SPEAKER_01:Oh god, yeah. Um they were, they were way ahead of the game on that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so big ups to them. Uh yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Ordinary World. That's the song. Ordinary World. Okay. Love that song.
SPEAKER_00:Um, throw a few more at you. Uh Culture Club.
SPEAKER_01:You know, when I first saw Do You Wanna Hurt Me, or Do You Really Wanna Hurt Me? I thought it was a novelty. Yeah. Gig. I really did. But my best friend's younger brother was all in on Boy George. Yeah. I'm like, what?
unknown:What?
SPEAKER_01:And then I'm listening to subsequent singles. Guy had a beautiful voice.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Now, what he did in his bedroom, and I think my business. Right. But he had a beautiful voice. You know, um, and I the one I liked the best was like the I like the the war song, and I like the poison mind. Love those songs.
SPEAKER_00:That album, that color by numbers is uh my numbers, yeah. I mean, Karma Chameleon is a miracle. Black money. Oh, black money. You're talking about the voice, you he really displays that on there. Church of the Poison Mind. It makes me blind as well. Uh, yeah. Big ups to them. I wanted, I I wanted to, they were they were here in Detroit, and what I did was I wouldn't go listen to. I saw uh like a live concert online, and it's it seemed like he lost his voice, and so I uh I decided not to go and check him out because I didn't want to I wanted to hear him if he could still sing and he didn't deliver, so I didn't go.
SPEAKER_01:You know, the same thing happened to David Lee Rob in like 1992 or so. Okay, yeah, because somebody called me and said, Man, Dave was lost and like no way, and they played a performance that they recently done.
SPEAKER_00:Uh yeah, yeah, that's unfortunate.
SPEAKER_01:That is really unfortunate.
SPEAKER_00:He's such a present. Uh cameo.
SPEAKER_01:Larry. Oh, in fact, he just won a lawsuit against former members about ownership of the name. Yeah, and Larry said he's gonna take some of his sons and younger people out as cameo 2.0.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:I'm like, all right, hey, you own the name, you do what you want to do, man. It's yours.
SPEAKER_00:Yep.
SPEAKER_01:But back in the day, Cameo that again, greatness is defined by you have a run. Cameo had a great run.
SPEAKER_00:They did.
SPEAKER_01:They had a run from what's that song, I Just Wanna Be, all the way up to Alligator Woman.
SPEAKER_00:That got my attention. That song there got my attention. I was like, oh, who is this?
SPEAKER_01:And then they step back, and Larry, I don't know what happened to them. I don't there's no biography yet, but when they had alligator one, they had like eight guys in the band, they disappear. Yep. And then Ward Up comes out, and there's three guys in the band. Like, something happened here. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:That was their biggest commercial success, right? That album when they came back as three. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yep.
SPEAKER_00:Uh did I mention Heat Wave?
SPEAKER_01:You mentioned Rod, you did not mention Heat Wave. Okay. Heat Wave. And I bet they're kicking themselves for turning down uh what was that song that Rod wrote for Michael?
SPEAKER_00:Rock with you, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And they turned it down. Yeah. Like, guys, what are you thinking about here, man?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Let Rod do what Rod does. Okay, you just said man.
SPEAKER_00:Uh was that Johnny Wilder Jr. is um his falsetto, too. He has an agreed falsetto. Yeah, what a good band. Uh let's see, a couple more, and then we out of here. Uh, what about Huey Lewis?
SPEAKER_01:Okay. And the storytime went with big sexy. Back in the early 80s, before I started college, I was a roadie in the Bay Area. Okay. And I'm doing a show at the Keystone Berkeley. And it's a metal show. And so I'm just doing my thing with the sound company, blah, blah, blah. And I had seen this young lady at the show like a week before on Antioch. And so she's at this show, and we're talking, and we're sharing a bottle of Loran Brown.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:I'm like, I'm like, oh, I'm a tear or something.
unknown:Tonight.
SPEAKER_02:I'm a tear.
SPEAKER_01:And then my supervisor comes to me. I need you, said, You don't need me. I'm in the middle of something here, man. Respect the game. It turns out the drummer for Huey Lewis had got so bombed. He was he couldn't he couldn't operate. So Kent drove his car, and I drove Kent's car up into the Berkeley Hills. Way up in the Berkeley Hills. Got this guy home. And by the time we got back to the Keystone, show's over, she's gone. Wow. I was not pleased. To this day, I give Kent a hard time about that.
SPEAKER_02:You should, man.
SPEAKER_01:I'm like, dude, I'm trying to do something to go on. C blocking. Straight C blocking, man. And you said, okay, right back.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, you said lower brow, man, which has one of the best, they had the best commercials ever on TV. Yes, they did. Do you boy? Let it be lowerbrow. They had all these charming situations, people getting off work, all that. But yeah, I love those commercials.
SPEAKER_01:Hey, should have seen it. It was a perfect setup.
SPEAKER_00:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:She's standing along the sidewall.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, come on.
SPEAKER_01:And I had was just on stage, like replacing one of the drum heads or something like that. Like, come off the stage, and she, you know, waved me over, hey baby, what's going on? Oh nothing. You there she I can drink. So she hands me her lawn, bro. I'm like, oh yeah. Oh yes. This is happening. This is happening. And here comes Camp Mr. Blocker of the Year.
SPEAKER_00:Oh man. Okay. Um Rose Royce.
SPEAKER_01:I like car wash. I like, but I love Love Don't Live Here No More.
SPEAKER_02:You abandoned me.
SPEAKER_01:Great song. Great song. But they didn't really do a lot past those two albums. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:They had a nice little car wash. I want to get next to you. Oh my gosh, man.
SPEAKER_01:I forgot about that one.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Oh man. What man? The lyrics to that song? Oh, that's Mac. You putting the Mac down. I'm going down.
SPEAKER_01:That was why I forgot that was theirs. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Put your money where your mouth is. Yeah, that sounds that Carlos soundtrack was awesome. Let's see. Oh boy. Oh boy. Wish it on the star. Oh, they had a nice little catalog, didn't they?
SPEAKER_01:Wait a minute. Hold on, Sean. Okay, I'm sorry. What's going on?
SPEAKER_03:You got something here?
SPEAKER_01:Is it big?
SPEAKER_03:Yep.
SPEAKER_01:Cool. Sean, I gotta turn the loose. I believe my gold records have arrived.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. Cool. All right, man. You have a nice day, man. And thank you for coming on the show.
SPEAKER_01:All right, big dog. And I again I apologize for being late. Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Before I let me see my tagline, y'all make sure to keep those classics coming. All right, have a good day.
