From He Man Nostalgia To Modern Sports Debates

A movie reboot, a league on the rise, and a championship that hit people right in the chest, all in one ride. We start by warming up with sports habits and nostalgia, from the World Cup chatter to childhood soccer stories that explain why certain games grab us and others do not. Then we jump straight into a detailed Masters of the Universe (2026) review, using the infamous 1987 version as the measuring stick and asking the only question that matters: did the new one actually earn the hype?

We get into performances and choices that work, like Jared Leto’s scene stealing Skeletor and Idris Elba bringing real weight to Man At Arms, plus the action and fight scenes that keep the movie moving. We also keep it honest about what missed, including the script, the forced dirty jokes, and the classic reboot problem of dragging a fantasy world back to Earth. From there, the conversation turns serious with the casting backlash, how racism shows up in fandom, and the history behind Sun Man, the Black superhero line created to fill a representation gap in action figures.

On the sports side, we lock in on the WNBA with Commissioner’s Cup talk, big game reactions, All Star voting, and why the league’s fundamentals and position basketball make it such a great watch right now. We also tackle the constant Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese narrative, the hate that comes with it, and why fans should focus on teams and matchups instead. Finally, we hit NBA and Detroit Pistons offseason questions, from Jalen Duren money to trade rumors, draft realities, and what a Knicks championship means for New York and for basketball culture.

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Transcript

Welcome And World Cup Check In

SPEAKER_00 0:34

This is the Disco Hicks Show.

SPEAKER_03 0:43

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Disco Hicks Show, your podcast. DJ dropping the needle on another episode. I'm joined again with my boy Sean P. What up, man?

SPEAKER_01 0:52

What's up, my brother? Back to another one.

SPEAKER_03 0:55

Yeah, yeah, man. I'm just trying to keep keep it current. One of the things I do want to talk about before we go on, start kicking it. Have you been watching the um the World Cup?

SPEAKER_01 1:08

Man, I have not. I've been in and out a little bit. I did see um shout out to Shannon Sharp and their podcast. I did see them uh talking about how we've won two games in a row. So I guess we just beat uh we pay, was it Parroquo? Paraguay, I forget the name. And we just won two games in a row. I think that's something we hadn't done uh in previous World Cups around. But I love soccer, bro. So that's that's big on my big on my radar. So I will be tuning in.

SPEAKER_03 1:40

I haven't watched it. I was just asking. So I just, man, um uh it's like it's like one of those sports like baseball, hockey, just those low-scoring sports. It's just it don't keep my attention. But I play it's fun playing it. I love playing the game soccer. I played when I was a kid. Did you uh you know about that Inkster league that we had, the Insta Soccer League?

SPEAKER_01 2:01

Not at all. First time hearing about it.

SPEAKER_03 2:04

Oh man, yeah, I was on the Inkster Raiders. Wow. Yeah, man, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:10

Uh real football, huh?

SPEAKER_03 2:12

Yeah, um played against Woodson. It was like, you know, we had Woodson, had these others, other teams too. Because our ours was uh Inkster Raiders colors are gray and black, and Woodson had the light blue and white. I remember that because my cousin Mario was on Woodson and we Mario who Newell.

SPEAKER_01 2:32

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_03 2:33

And he and I always, man, we just friendly competition, but we uh it was bragging rice with the family, man. And every time we competed against each other, man, he would beat me, man. It was just so annoying, bro. Uh his teams just always used to be better. But I was I I was I felt that I was a better player in basketball and in soccer, but his teams uh typically would beat my teams, man.

SPEAKER_01 2:57

Man, my first introduction with soccer was uh when I was married, my my wife at the time. Uh, we had introduced my oldest daughter, which is my second child, my oldest girl though. Uh we introduced her to it at like three. So I got involved with it then, and then my son went on to play a season uh for Wayne Memorial in uh high school. And that's when I kind of really just started like, hey, you know what, this is a I like this. Let me um chime in. So I do check it out quite a bit.

SPEAKER_04 3:28

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:29

I love playing it on PlayStation, that's for sure.

Birthday Shout Outs And Tupac Note

SPEAKER_03 3:34

Okay, uh, I was looking something up. All right, man. Today is uh we the day recording this, June 20th. So I want to give some birthday shout-outs, man, to the Academy Award-winning actress Nicole Kidman. What up, though?

SPEAKER_01 3:47

All right, happy birthday, Nicole.

SPEAKER_03 3:49

Yeah, yeah. Lana Richie, all night, love. All night. Uh John Goodman.

SPEAKER_01 3:56

And happy birthday, good.

SPEAKER_03 3:59

Yeah, Brian Wilson. Do you know John Taylor? John Taylor is the bassist from Duran Duran.

SPEAKER_01 4:05

No, but I'm a fan of the group, so yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:09

Hungry like the wolves. Yeah, and uh Arrol Flynn, man.

SPEAKER_01 4:15

Errol Flynn. That's just uh do you remember that?

SPEAKER_03 4:17

Do you remember that dance he used to do the Errol Flynn back in the street?

SPEAKER_04 4:20

Yeah, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:22

I remember people was, I know I I was pronouncing him wrong, I was calling him Earl. His name is Errol.

SPEAKER_01 4:30

Errol, yeah. Errol Flynn. Yeah, he's gonna be. Um and and you know, happy belated birthday to Tupac, bro. Oh, yeah, yeah. June 16th, bro.

SPEAKER_03 4:39

Mm-hmm.

Why The 1987 Film Failed

SPEAKER_03 4:41

Did you get a chance to uh see any movies? Uh, because I want to talk about that Master Universe. I'm just gonna touch on it if you had.

SPEAKER_01 4:47

Man, I was gonna surprise you. I went and saw it uh two nights ago. I took the girls. Ah, check it out, man. So I'm ready.

SPEAKER_03 4:57

Okay, do you um do you remember the 1987 movie? Massive universe?

SPEAKER_01 5:03

Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 5:05

Okay, so when this movie was, when they started talking about this movie's gonna come out, or they started filming it and all that, I was like, All right, I said it's no way in the world. I was like, I don't care what the product is, whatever the finished product is, I know 100% certainty that it was gonna be better than that piece of crap film that was in 1987, bro. Yeah, that movie was so bad that it grossed 17 million dollars worldwide in the 80s against a 22 million budget. It was so bad that the production budget leading to a heavy financial losses ultimately contributed to bankruptcy.

SPEAKER_01 5:51

That was definitely a miss right there.

SPEAKER_03 5:54

Mm-hmm. Terrible, man. So when I this movie came out, I was and I think I went to see that movie with Punk and Darrell Hayes. I think he and I caught the okay caught the bus to the Dearborn Theater and that's my dog, man.

SPEAKER_01 6:08

Shout out to D Hayes.

SPEAKER_03 6:10

And uh, so yeah. And so now bring us up to June 5th, 2026.

unknown 6:16

Yeah.

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Geraletto was Skeletor, and then he got Idris Alba was a man

2026 Movie Impressions And Performances

SPEAKER_03 6:23

at arms. What do you think about this film? What did you think about it, man?

SPEAKER_01 6:26

I liked it, man. Um I was it what I mean, it's one of my favorite cartoons ever. I had recently had started diving back into looking at the original cartoons. I loved it, man. Even I think Idris has his range is so good, man. Um, I was surprised that he played Man at Ours, but he pulled it on. He pulled it off, man. He did a really good job. Um, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03 7:02

Oh no, okay, go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 7:03

So, yeah, so he he pulled it off. I I loved him um in his movie, took a took a beating in the beginning of it, but to face off with uh trap job, which was one of my favorite uh figurines. Do you got him in your collection?

SPEAKER_03 7:21

I'm about to look back. Do I got trap job? No.

SPEAKER_01 7:25

Oh, we gotta add trap jobs.

SPEAKER_03 7:27

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:28

He was my favorite, he was one of my favorite figurines um back then. So I I I loved it. Uh the girls loved it too, surprisingly, and we went late. Uh we went to the 10 o'clock show. So oh wow. We stayed up for the whole thing.

SPEAKER_03 7:44

Uh was it a crowd?

SPEAKER_01 7:46

Man, believe it or not, no, it was not. Uh, it was probably maybe four or five people in there. So I was kind of surprised, but it was late and it was like Thursday night.

SPEAKER_03 7:58

So Okay. Um, you know, I like you said, I like see, but I would I before the cartoon came out, you know, I was collecting the figures. So I don't know if you remember, do you remember they used to have a had a little booklet with the each figure?

SPEAKER_01 8:12

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:13

And so that's what I went by. That was that was the Master of the Universe canon for me. So when I looked at those books, the cartoon didn't match up with those books, man. And I'll because you know, essentially he, man, is pretty much Conan, but in a in a more richer society and you know, in a better high-tech society, is what I would say. Yeah, that's all it is. And and so in the books, he was kind of barbaric, but cartoons, of course, they cleaned it up, and he had like uh like a Superman personality where he, you know, he he was always wanting to give you lessons while he beating you down, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 8:56

I I wasn't up on those uh magazines, not the He-Man or the Universe magazines coming out.

SPEAKER_03 9:03

Yeah, which probably yeah, so they I mean that you had to get the toys and it came with that. And so that was I was always then I didn't I watched the cartoon because it was all that it had, and I liked He-Man, but they didn't go by the comic books. That was you know, that was accompanied with the toy.

SPEAKER_01 9:21

Where did you get your comic books from back then?

SPEAKER_03 9:23

No, it was in the I'm gonna say it was with the it was with the action figure.

SPEAKER_01 9:26

It was the action figure, okay.

SPEAKER_03 9:28

Yeah, it came with the action figure.

SPEAKER_01 9:29

You're right. Because I bought uh I bought probably almost all of them.

SPEAKER_03 9:33

Okay.

Idris Elba Backlash And Sun Man Story

SPEAKER_03 9:34

My first one was Man at Arms. And funny that you say that about Idris, uh, when they uh when they announced the cast, it was so much pushback and blowback because he was black. Of course, and it was just so bad. And and like I tell people, if you want to know the heartbeat of this country, go into the comment sections. Just go in there and you go in there and read it, and you will see what the heartbeat of this country is. And I'm gonna tell you this it's racist. It is, it's always it's it's always been and it's continue to be racist. And you know, I ain't trying to get too deep in it, but it to me, it was like it was unnecessary because Idris is an accomplished, accomplished actor. And and whatever he's gonna do, he's gonna man, he's gonna make it gold or even platinum. That's just what he that's just what he does. And I was just like, why? I mean, like, man, oh yeah, I get it. Man at arms was just we grew up this way. And then, but the thing about it in the comics, man, he had no mustache. And then when the cartoon came out, he had a mustache. So they just it just changing them over time, yeah. And um, so I like it at like at the end of the day, it's a comic book, man. So who cares?

SPEAKER_01 10:44

Yeah, do you know racism has been reborn uh in this country, uh, especially with the um current administration, but that's a whole nother podcast right there.

SPEAKER_03 10:56

Yeah, and even with Masters of the Universe, Mattel or you know, there's the company that owned Master Universe.

SPEAKER_04 11:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:05

And so um back in the day. Uh let's see, I'm about to look this up. Sun Man. Sun Man was created by a black lady. Her son had mass, she collect he collected Master of the Universe action figures. Okay, he went and told his mom that he he felt that he couldn't be a superhero because he was black. So that inspired this woman to start a company. And so she created, she created uh some man, and he's a black superhero. He's he's essentially the black he man.

SPEAKER_01 11:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 11:42

And um so yeah, she went on and did that, and and but the it looks like it far as physical, but the man, his face, he looks, it just looks, it's it's kind of whack. So that's why it didn't turn, that's why it didn't take off. But what you know, her intentions were right, and she did come out with a nice little line. So what they did uh eventually, they incorporated the Sun Man universe with the matching universe. So now they're one universe. So when you when you collect now, they updated Sun Man, which he's now he looks like a man, he's just like a he looks like Mark Michael the Archangel, man. That's how dope he is, man.

SPEAKER_01 12:22

Okay. All right, dope. But uh I was I was surprised, not surprised, but maybe there because I didn't we didn't stay, you know, when you the credits roll and then normally there's always like a little bit after the credits to kind of let you know um if the movie is gonna, is it the end or will it be a sequel or something like that?

SPEAKER_03 12:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:44

And and is I think it was set up to where there will be a sequel.

SPEAKER_03 12:48

Oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:50

Uh Merman, he wasn't in that one.

SPEAKER_03 12:53

No, that's a lot of people's missing me at Merman. Okay. Yeah, I want to go. This lady, her name is um Wyla Eason.

SPEAKER_01 13:03

Wila Eason?

SPEAKER_03 13:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:05

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 13:06

She started, she founded the toy company, All Mac Toys, in 1985.

SPEAKER_01 13:11

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_03 13:12

In response to her, her son was three years old. And he said, he said, who realized he couldn't be a superhero because no action figure at the time looked like him. So yeah, she's how she discovered uh made manufactured all these toys. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:27

I'm following her right now.

SPEAKER_03 13:29

Yeah. So that's the backstory. That so that racism started even back then in '85. And now to come full circle back now, and then you cast an a an accomplished actor as one of the characters, and you get a blowback. Just crazy to me, man.

SPEAKER_01 13:47

Yeah. But you know what? Regardless of the racism, uh, man, that brother did a great job, man. He did a great job as Sergeant at Art. I mean, especially when you think about everything he's done up until this point, which is a lot.

SPEAKER_03 13:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:00

He pulled it off. Color or not, he

Cringe Humor Versus Great Action

SPEAKER_01 14:03

pulled it off.

SPEAKER_03 14:03

I didn't like, I didn't like the script. I man, the jokes, I didn't let I think I laughed at maybe one joke. Man, them jokes was terrible. And then it was like all the sexual indoors, man. Like, come on, man. Like, Ram Man, spoiler alert, you know, Ram Man, he rams people, talking about go give him some head.

SPEAKER_01 14:24

Yeah, yeah, I I did catch that. Uh yeah, I would you know what though I think about it is is this day and time, the writers in this day and time, man. I I mean, yeah, I I I think another thing when you talk about those uh the sections as far as uh the posts and different things like that. That's what people love nowadays, man. Um that that nasty humor. Um it's not my thing. I'm I'm old school. I I can get away with the clean stuff. Uh, but yeah, you're right. There there was some um there was uh quite a few things there that made me cringe just a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 15:04

Especially with the fist, though. Talking about fisting people, I don't fist people.

SPEAKER_01 15:08

Yeah. At first I was like, wait a minute, I hope we're not going down that road.

SPEAKER_02 15:13

Yeah, dog, come on.

SPEAKER_01 15:14

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we went down that road.

SPEAKER_03 15:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:19

So hopefully, my girls, even though they're teenagers, hopefully uh they have no idea what they were talking about.

SPEAKER_03 15:29

Uh but I uh man, it's the action scenes were were on point. The fight scenes were really good. Man, Jared Leto as Skeletor. Every time he was on screen, I didn't want him to leave. He he just to me, he stole every scene he was in.

SPEAKER_01 15:45

He was captivated. Yeah, he was captivated.

SPEAKER_03 15:49

That part like uh the guy who played, see, that's what I'm saying. I'm I'm it's even with the cartoon, it's hard for me to swallow Prince Adam because Prince Adam was a part of the comic books. So, but all right, I'm going to I'm just gonna forget that. Okay, now we got Prince Adam. I didn't I didn't say, all right, I'm accepting the Prince Adam part. And but I don't like why everything gotta come to earth though, man. Why everything gotta be placed on earth? Can't we just stay in eternity?

SPEAKER_01 16:18

Yeah, I I I'm with you on that. Like they kind of could have um that whole section. But I I will say this, I did like the beast man.

SPEAKER_03 16:28

Um yeah, he's my he's my favorite character.

SPEAKER_01 16:31

Yeah, he he came in hard, bro. So he had me on the edge of my seat. But yeah, I I I agree. Um, but you're right. Why everything gotta be based on Earth? I mean, it was even like that in Black Panther. We had to come back to Earth.

SPEAKER_03 16:48

Yeah, and then tear it up, you know, come and tear it up and have people's reactions screaming, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:55

But you know, I I guess when you think about you go back old school with Godzilla, like that's just kind of been the thing. Just tear up this bad boy and then leave it and go somewhere else.

SPEAKER_03 17:06

Mm-hmm. Yeah, so I I I would what would you give it? I would give it a 6.5 out of 10.

SPEAKER_01 17:14

6.5? I'm gonna go one point higher. I I'm gonna go 7.5.

SPEAKER_04 17:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 17:20

Um, yeah. I mean there's a lot of room for improvement. Um, but yeah, I I I enjoyed it. I I thought it was pretty good. I would say for me, the biggest thing, and I always kind of try to remain conscious of this not to be Debbie Donna or anything, but based on what my daughters went through, like the the part where he lost his mom and his dad. Well, he lost his dad. I don't think his mother passed away in there.

SPEAKER_04 17:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:44

Um for them, what they went through, uh those are always kind of like touching scenes uh for me and for them. So, but hey, we made it through and it was uh they they enjoyed it and I did too. That's good, that's good. All right, cool.

SPEAKER_03 17:59

All right, man. Switching

WNBA Commissioner’s Cup And Big Games

SPEAKER_03 18:01

gears, going to sports. The WNBA, bro.

SPEAKER_01 18:06

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_03 18:07

We got two teams playing in the um Commissioner's Cup. That would be the New York Liberty with 6-0 and cup play. Yeah, Las Vegas Aces 6-1 and cut play. Uh, did you watch that game last night? Because I did.

SPEAKER_01 18:23

I sure did.

SPEAKER_03 18:24

Oh, dude, it was so much, it was good basketball last night.

SPEAKER_01 18:28

Yes, it was. Yes, it was.

SPEAKER_03 18:30

Um let's see. Uh, yeah, the Mystics, man, they're up and coming, bro. They coming. Um, you got it.

SPEAKER_01 18:37

They shocked me. They shocked me last night.

SPEAKER_03 18:40

Yeah, what uh Sonia Citron, she went for 16 points. And no girl, Kiki Irafin, man. Her.

SPEAKER_01 18:48

Yeah. I couldn't pronounce her name last night, uh, but man, that sister got busy last night.

SPEAKER_03 18:53

Man, bro, they couldn't stop her. She went for 20 points. She was eight for eight for 14, six rebounds. Man, and uh what's the name? I noticed that, you know, because I told you what's the name. Uh, Sabrina Yonescu was my favorite player, and she just got back. She came back from injury.

SPEAKER_01 19:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 19:13

I think this was a third or fourth game back, and so she was off for seven games. So she's trying to get acclimated back into it. And I can tell uh her jumpers off. She was four for 13 last night. She played three minutes.

SPEAKER_01 19:25

That always takes time.

SPEAKER_03 19:27

Yeah.

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You know, getting back in game shape.

SPEAKER_03 19:31

And I think also uh Stewie, man, I think she's taking a step back. I'm I'm uh I noticed her last three years, her field goal percentage has declined.

SPEAKER_01 19:40

Declining. Yeah. Wear and tear.

SPEAKER_03 19:42

Yeah. Uh two-point and three-point percent field goal percentages has gone down. But the game of the night for me was the Lynx against the Valkyrie, man. Oh my God, bro.

SPEAKER_01 19:55

That was a great game. And you know what? What was crazy was um they just kept going up on them. Like I was like, man, hey, it was a 10-point lead here. Then they fight back, then you know, then they push the lead up again. Uh, but my second favorite player, um, the this the point guard.

SPEAKER_03 20:16

Uh Olivia, Living Ma.

SPEAKER_01 20:19

Oh man, that girl is got what is it? Ice she got ice water in her veins.

SPEAKER_03 20:24

Yeah, she's been here before. And uh she had an off-game last night. So that's it.

SPEAKER_01 20:29

She did. She did. And that tell you how but even with the off game, um, and they man, she was throwing so many dimes that she left a lot of assists on the court last night.

SPEAKER_02 20:40

Because they were missing mad buddies, bro. I was like, man, y'all missing these, man. She was giving it to you in your hand at the rim.

SPEAKER_01 20:49

Yeah. Ain't no way. She walked away with four assists last night. No way she should have had uh, she should have had at least 10 as many times as they uh they messed up on her passes last night. But she stepped up and she hit uh the two crucial crucial, uh well, they weren't crucial, but two free throws to put the game away last night. Uh, and I I love that these games are packed now, man.

SPEAKER_03 21:14

Yeah, and they should be. Yep, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 21:16

I'm loving that for them.

SPEAKER_03 21:18

Um yeah, my girl is my girl on the team is Courtney Williams. That's my girl, man. C Dub, man. I love C dub. She went for 21 points. She was she is six for sixteen. Oh, dawg. You see her blowing kisses to the crowd. Yeah. Yeah, that's my girl, dog. One half of the stud buds. The stud buds.

SPEAKER_01 21:42

She went she went to work, man. Uh oh yeah. She had five assists too, so uh one still, she was she went to work. She went to work.

SPEAKER_03 21:50

Uh, what what we won't see on the stat sheet with Olivia Miles is her defense against against uh Nanny uh Caitlin Chin. And um and and Veronica Burton. She was she was on them. And Veronica Burton can go. She was one for eight uh last night.

SPEAKER_01 22:08

And then she shot terrible last night.

SPEAKER_03 22:11

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:12

And uh I think as a team, they shot bad uh as a whole. Their three-pointer, they didn't really make that many three-pointers.

SPEAKER_03 22:19

And that's what they do, and that's what they do, and they didn't do it last night.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:23

The young lady uh Williams, uh the four, she was going to work.

SPEAKER_03 22:27

Oh, talking about Gabby, Gabby Williams?

SPEAKER_01 22:29

Yeah, yeah, she's tough. I like her heart. She had 15 last night. She's six for 16. It was tough for her, but um, she had a lot of energy out there. She was trying to wheel them away in, but it just didn't happen.

SPEAKER_03 22:42

Oh, bro. You know, today, man, fever against the dream at one o'clock. You could be busy, you could be busy, ain't you?

SPEAKER_01 22:49

Man, I'm so mad. I'm recording it though. And I was upset because I thought I pushed record on the game the other night. And uh Angel, that's my my she's my favorite player. I just ordered me a shirt. I'm man, I'm about to get my W NBA gear up, bro.

SPEAKER_03 23:06

Oh, me too. I got one, I got one Sabrina shirt, that's it, but I'm I'm going in the stock up.

SPEAKER_01 23:13

I think I'm gonna I'm gonna take a trip to the ATL, visit some family, and go to a couple games before the season is over with.

SPEAKER_03 23:21

Yep, I was on Facebook this morning and um somebody was talking about the game because the Fever and Dream played the other day.

SPEAKER_01 23:28

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 23:28

And um they were saying, like, going into it, you know, because I always when you watch TV or on social media or whatever, and they always pitting Caitlin Clark against Andrew Reese. And this this guy made a post. He was like, I watched the game, and yes, both of those players contributed. He said, but they both have good teams. Why aren't they just not talking the fever against the dream?

SPEAKER_02 23:50

Um, because it's not popular.

SPEAKER_03 23:52

They like the division and all that crap. And it's like, man, both of the teams go, and I was happy because I was thinking that when she when whenever Angel Reese would do something like make a shot or make a good play, I thought maybe they would boo her. But they didn't, well, I couldn't hear it coming from the TV. I didn't hear the crowd in Indiana booing her. But uh I I was kind of pleased that that didn't go down like that, though.

SPEAKER_01 24:16

Yeah, yeah. And man, she had four fouls before halftime another night. So even though she had a really great game, um, she probably could have added, probably would have been lopsided had she not been in foul trouble. I'm I'm happy for her, man. Uh, because we talked about it on previous podcasts. It's a shame of the hate that she's getting, especially with uh people in our in our own culture. Yeah, yeah. But she's the only one in the WNBA averaging 15 and 12 rebounds right now.

SPEAKER_03 24:52

And people disparage you like, oh, because she's doing the me bounds. And that's like, if it was that easy, everybody be doing it, man.

SPEAKER_01 24:59

Yeah. I don't, I, I've I've this year of sports, especially with the NBA, um the what do they call them? The the the couch players, whatever. No, I don't I barely pay attention to them guys anymore, man. Barely pay attention to them guys.

SPEAKER_03 25:18

All right, man, I feel you, bro. I'm I'm pulling back slowly but surely. Some stuff I can see. This is Click Bay. Oh, this person trying to trigger somebody, so I just keep it going.

SPEAKER_04 25:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:30

All right. All right, man. The

All Star Voting And Media Narratives

SPEAKER_03 25:32

first returns for the all-star voting for the W. So you got AJ Wilson leading the pack. Aja. Of course. And Paige Becker.

SPEAKER_01 25:42

She's a beast too. I like her game.

SPEAKER_03 25:45

Leah Boston is third. Breonna Stewart, Caitlin Clark, Jessica Shepard, man. People, y'all need to check this woman out. Jessica Shepherd. She's on the Dallas Wings. She. Dude, she's uh she's in the name. You got Aja Wilson, Olivia Miles, and you got Jessica Shepard are the names that that's floating around for MVP. Uh AJ Wilson is the front word, front runner, but Jessica Shepard is a beast.

SPEAKER_01 26:15

Um they got the girl. Uh is it uh a Goomba Wallin. Yeah, she's good too, man.

SPEAKER_03 26:24

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:26

She played with a lot of tenacity, a lot of fire.

SPEAKER_03 26:29

Yep. Yep. Um, yeah, so I was hoping that this year they're gonna start to jail because her shot, I think she was hurt. Her shot was off last year. Her shot started to come back because she she can almost be like a uh uh Klay Thompson type, where you just she don't even have to dribble, you just pass her, she just bow, bow, bow. She just woo, she went when she hot, bro. I don't I haven't seen any woman, and I hate to say gender like gender like that, but I've never seen when she got I can't remember, I think it was an all-star game or something. Okay, she got hot, and everybody just conceded and just allowed her and just gave her the ball every chance, and she was fire, man. And uh ever since then, that's that's where I became a fan of hers. Enrique Gumbawale. Okay, then you got Angel Reese. You you spoke about Gabby Williams, Olivia Miles, and then Kelsey Mitchell, round out the top 10 of the uh vote leading.

SPEAKER_01 27:30

Yeah, I I I want to add what what I'm loving, because uh shout out to you, bro, because you really been like, man, you've been watching this, watching that, watching this. Yeah, so now I I because I love, I've always loved girl basketball, but I have been tuned out. But um last couple weeks, man, I've been tuning in. What I love about the WNBA is, and I seen a post where a guy said that the NBA needs to get back to position basketball.

SPEAKER_03 27:59

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 27:59

That's what you got in the WNBA, and it's so it's such a better watch, man. Like the fundamentals, even though they're playing below the rim, you're not gonna get the dunks and stuff like that. But uh great picks being set. You got the the the the wide the the threes that you should be taking. Uh and you got you know people playing their position. You got real point guards, two guards, fours, and centers.

SPEAKER_03 28:23

So yeah, yeah, that's uh that is a big issue with the league, man. And it was talking about the turnovers, and I think and you talk about that. Andrew Reese, man, and for hers, her her position, she turns the ball over too much because they they um depend on her passing. And and um even like Jalen Duran, he he as well going back to NBA. He man, he has a lot of he has a high turnover rate, man.

SPEAKER_01 28:54

Yeah, he does. Uh he he does. But uh I think the Pistons as a whole has a high turnover rate, and that has a lot to do with not having uh a traditional point guard or a good backup point guard uh coming off that bench there. Like when we had Schroeder, Schroeder helped us out a lot.

SPEAKER_03 29:16

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:17

You know, with cutting down on the turnovers and getting the team under control. Um so then we didn't have that this year. Dennis Jenkins was honestly, Marcus Sasser is a better point guard, uh, but he was dealing with a hip injury and he was kind of buried on the bench.

SPEAKER_03 29:34

So yeah, I just yeah, get everybody in their right position, man. Let the let the big person. Hey, it was funny because I was watching, what was that? I can't remember the game, but they called uh called one of the ladies a big fella. Yeah, give it to the big fella. I was like, oh should you be saying that? Yeah, you gotta watch what you said. No, call it the big fella. Yeah, buddy. Yeah, you know, and then that's the thing about this new NBA, they're trying to make it global. And so they take they took that positionless basketball from um overseas and all that.

SPEAKER_01 30:14

But yeah, I'm gonna blame I'm gonna blame the AAU circuit too. Okay, yeah, okay. Yeah, because they they they get these kids, man, and then if you're really good, but they don't they don't challenge these kids. I'm not gonna say all, but they don't challenge these kids to be best at their position. They just kind of let these kids do what they want to do.

SPEAKER_03 30:34

So yeah, but they want everybody to be switchable and be uh play defense or whoever. You can, you know, that's why like, oh, this person, he can guard two through four and all that. Yeah.

unknown 30:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 30:48

And that's what yeah, and then you got the all-star game affected by it. So it's just like, like, come on. And I and I understand that there were some, you know, you had players like uh, let me see. Uh I hate to I hate to call players out, man, but there were some players that made the all-star team because of their position, and there was a lack of uh competition in that position, like far as this center-wise. I can't think of these plays.

unknown 31:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 31:14

Can you think of any players that like you say it was questionable? Like, why would they, you know, when you go look back at the history, like, why did that person make the play uh all-star team? It's because of the uh position that he played, and and the position was like liked.

SPEAKER_01 31:29

You have the idea though? Nah, you know, you're talking about in the NBA?

SPEAKER_03 31:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:34

Uh well, I mean, this guy's an all-star, one of the greatest

Position Basketball And Turnover Problems

SPEAKER_01 31:39

of all time, but like there was always kind of with Tim Duncan, is he a power forward? Is he a center? Um but no, I I think most of the guys that make the the NBA team, I mean, with an all-star team, they they pretty much deserve to be there. Now, the the starters, of course, they get voted in by the fans. And maybe Yao Main. I don't know if he would have been an actual star. I don't know if he was that great of a player.

SPEAKER_03 32:07

You know what I think? I thought he was dope, man.

SPEAKER_01 32:09

He was dope. I don't I will I think uh David Robinson was still around. Oh, okay. Um so I think there were some guys that he might have got uh chosen over to he was he was a very good basketball player.

SPEAKER_03 32:25

Uh but he also had China, he also had China behind him because they they man, when they was voting, man, it was flooding it, bro.

SPEAKER_01 32:32

Yeah, that that market is is is heartbeat.

SPEAKER_03 32:36

So yeah, that's part of that too, bro.

SPEAKER_01 32:38

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:40

All right, man. The draft what Thursday? The draft is uh June 23rd and the 24th.

SPEAKER_01 32:45

Yeah, I forgot it's coming up this week. Yeah, as well, next week, rather.

SPEAKER_03 32:51

Yeah, uh, have you do you know the top prospects?

SPEAKER_01 32:54

Uh uh the kid from BYU, the kid from uh Kansas Peterson, Dombanza is the kid. AJ Domanza. Him and and uh the Peterson from Kansas. Yeah, those are the top. I I mean, outside of those two guys, I mean there are a couple more guys, but yeah, Boozer, Cam Boozer, and Caleb Williams. Now, the Boozer kid, there were some talks about him going possibly going number one. I don't see him going number one over the Dombata kid. I I like Boozer's game. I just think the top two with Peterson and Dombonsa, I think they are franchise players.

SPEAKER_03 33:40

Okay. What about Caleb Williams, Wilson and me? Did you see him play?

SPEAKER_01 33:48

No, I'm I'm I'm not I'm not big on.

SPEAKER_03 33:51

He he played for North Carolina. He's pretty good, man.

SPEAKER_01 33:53

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um the young boy, the young kid.

SPEAKER_03 33:57

Yeah, he was hurt toward the end of the year.

SPEAKER_01 33:59

Yeah, he was a freshman, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Uh oh, so he's he entering the draft? Yeah, man, he's top four, bro. They got he gonna be a he's going to be a dog. Mm-hmm. Uh, if he can stay healthy. Yeah. Kind of gave me the Kevin Garnett. Uh but he kind of he can he can handle the ball a little bit too. Um I don't, I mean, not a bad choice. I I could see I I would choose him over Boozer. He would be a longer project, but uh, I mean, he would have to work on his game more than Boozer a little bit more polished. Uh but yeah, I love his game too, bro.

SPEAKER_04 34:40

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 34:42

Let's see, bro.

SPEAKER_03 34:45

What about uh so then hey, you heard about our guys on the trading block. Stu.

SPEAKER_01 34:53

Yeah, yeah. Um, I I've had some deep conversations with guys this week about um Jalen Duran and what people are expecting. Uh you know, the kid is making, he got a $19 million deal. He's making $6 million a year. Um, for a kid like him, come from a single-parent household, I tried to find some information on like his dad. There's no information on his dad. So this is a kid that comes from a single-parent household. Uh, I'm not sure what their living circumstances was, but didn't come from a two-parent household like Jalen Brunson. A kid that left $100 million on the table. Yeah. Jalen Brunson doing that. He came from an established family. Dad played in the NBA, so money wasn't an issue. There's still 100 million is still a lot to walk away from. Jalen Duran to sign him, to ask him to take $30 million as disrespect, top 15 in the league. Uh, and

Draft Prospects And Pistons Trade Talk

SPEAKER_01 36:01

his contemporaries, the guys that's on that third all NBA team, and uh Chet Holgram and Maxie, they got $200 million deals. Uh you're gonna have to give him that money. That makes B Stu expendable. I don't like it, but I'm okay with it because Paul Reid can take up that time and that space. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:28

Yeah, yeah. That's man, bro, man. That what about um losing that enforcer though? How you feel about that?

SPEAKER_01 36:39

I I think it's bad, man. I think it's bad, to be honest with you. I I really I I'm hoping that the the the um the organization doesn't pay attention to the fans. And there's no disrespect to the fans, but fans thrive off emotion and not logic when it comes to these situations. I don't think you really need to make no real big changes, man. If you could, if you could keep most of this team together and add a CJ or just a deadly shooter or something like that, um, and somehow maybe package some guys on the end of the bench, but keep this team together. 60 wins, man. Second round of the playoffs, uh, you don't need to do a whole lot of changing, man, in my opinion. So answer your question. I don't like losing stew. Yeah, I don't like that.

SPEAKER_03 37:37

I just found out two players, Jamal McGlure and Tyrone Hill.

SPEAKER_01 37:43

Oh yeah, Tyrone. Who could could forget? He was a rebound on the machine, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 37:50

Man, but you when I you say his name, you don't think all-star, but he was all-star, and it was due to the lack of uh players that had position, and this was 94-95. But hey man, he I'm not taking it from him. I just know that people question it. Um, and Jamal McGlure as well.

SPEAKER_01 38:06

Yeah, yeah, big time. The Kentucky guy. I think he went to Kentucky.

SPEAKER_03 38:12

Okay, so yes, man, beef stew, man. So I guess the pit uh Pistons top prospects is just we'd talk about this and we'd be out of here. Uh Bennett Sturts from Iowa. What do you think about him? Did you keep up with him?

SPEAKER_01 38:26

No, uh, I've heard a little bit about the kid. Um, I don't think we're gonna find what we need in the draft. Uh me personally, I I think that that um that draft pick should be packaged with something to somebody and go get something else. I I don't I don't know if there's a guy at 21 that can help impact our team. The the Lanier kid didn't do much for us. And he he we had games where we were blowing people out. Uh and he just wasn't that impactful. Now he did great in great in the G League, but he didn't take that step to me uh this year.

SPEAKER_03 39:06

No, no. But man, it's just it's that's a lot to put on somebody. You know, we got players that come in and just tear the league up, and then some players it take a while for them to develop, and then once they get that get to that spot, then bam, there they go.

SPEAKER_01 39:22

That's true.

SPEAKER_03 39:22

Uh I don't know, man. Uh it's it's look like from where I'm hearing that they might move off of your boy and look for another shooter. Okay. He might look for another player that's maybe taller, does the same thing he does, but taller, and maybe uh maybe a better shooter.

SPEAKER_01 39:44

But who do who do you like at 21 for us? First who we're looking at right now.

SPEAKER_03 39:51

Uh man, that uh Cameron Carr, man, but I don't know if he's gonna be there, man.

SPEAKER_01 39:56

Okay. You know, the guy from Baylor, you know, he's yeah, yeah, and I like his game.

SPEAKER_03 40:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:02

I I I have seen him play a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 40:05

And then they got another press. They got uh Alan Graves, power forward from Santa Clara. He's 6'9. He shot 41 from three. So I think either or, man, I don't know. I think I don't know what basic you know, they they need that stretch for, they need a starting four. So they they might look for that player to a trade and then find that other, the ball handler in the draft. So I don't know. They're gonna figure out I don't know which one which way they're gonna go, but it seemed like the whole league is waiting for the Giannis thing. They're waiting for that to see what the market looks like because you know we got these new rules for our trading. So uh after 27 or year to 20, was it not 29, you can't. I forgot the rules change at 29 or whatever. So I think these teams are trying to, for what it looks like now, your first round pick is very valuable. So teams are are are reluctant to give that up unless you got something bona fide and for sure.

SPEAKER_01 41:09

Now, I will say this um the safe pick for me would be the the kid from Duke, uh, Isaiah Evans. Nice guy with like, you know, 15 points. Um, you know, he's and he's come because we need system players. We need guys that like being plugged in the system. There you go, Duke. Duke is a is a, you know, they're they're great uh for that. What I don't want to see, and what I've been hearing a lot of, which is is garbage to me, is a lot of these radio stations, they're big on Austin Rivers coming from LA. And just to show you the hypocrisy. Oh, you're talking about Reeves? Austin Reeves. No! They're talking about him. Now we're talking about a kid that is making 40, he's gonna possibly make 40 million a year. He sits in the shadows of LeBron James. Um, and they have no problems with giving this kid 40 million, but it's a problem to give Duran, who has gotten better every year. He just had a bad playoff. Yeah. So I don't, I don't, I don't want that for this squad. I uh he would come here and I I just don't see him doing well in this system. He could, but I I don't know about that.

SPEAKER_03 42:33

I don't think he I don't think I don't think he personally even want to be here. So why even bring him out here?

SPEAKER_01 42:38

Yeah. You think about the guards he's gonna have to go against in the Eastern Conference, the Bains and them kids down in Atlanta, uh Boston, uh even the even the kids in Charlotte. Um the the back course, man, they're gonna they he would have a lot to deal with in the Eastern Conference.

SPEAKER_02 42:57

So man, he's just turnstile.

SPEAKER_03 43:01

True, what you're talking about, we saw what happened to Duncan Robinson, man. He's the same way.

SPEAKER_01 43:07

Yeah, agreed.

SPEAKER_03 43:08

He's gonna get hunted out,

Targets Like Reaves Levine And Zion

SPEAKER_03 43:10

and sometimes he might be unplayable, you know.

SPEAKER_01 43:13

And no disrespect to the European players, uh, but history will show you in Detroit. Uh shout out to Duncan Robinson. He did really good um, you know, with us. Uh, but again, like there's a lot of um it's a lot of don't know's there. Um, but the foreign players and and and some of your American white players, they struggle in Detroit. They have struggled in Detroit uh in our system. Um so and it's no knock on those guys because there are some very good uh good ones in the league, but they struggle here, and that's what history has shown. So yeah, unless you're mimin'. Yeah. And you figure that was what 2004? Yeah. Two years ago.

SPEAKER_03 44:06

And he was so good that we had they were look, they were confused, like, should we keep him or Rashid? No, we keep it Rashid. But he was, but he was that good though to wear his last.

SPEAKER_01 44:19

And another thing I'd cut you off, if you if you if you if you go back and you pay attention, um, and this is no knock, but history will show this as well. Larry Brown just wasn't fond of uh foreign players.

SPEAKER_03 44:32

Nah, man. He mismanaged them big time, bro.

SPEAKER_01 44:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:35

He just was he he was the right coach to get us there, but he was he he's not good in developing, like you said, uh the European players.

SPEAKER_04 44:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:45

He just didn't know it, you know, because he was trying to make Darko Miller chick Bill Russell. Like, bro, he's not Bill Russell.

SPEAKER_01 44:52

He's not him.

SPEAKER_03 44:53

You know, look, he wanted to be more like Dirk.

SPEAKER_01 44:56

I think he was disappointed in that draft pick. He really wanted it, all of us did. We wanted Carmelo Anthony.

SPEAKER_03 45:05

Yeah, Joe. Hey, look, the Trajan, please, man. I I know you got a relationship with New Orleans. I like Joe, man. Joe is, I mean, he he did he did good to our city and our and our team, man. But don't do no business with him, dog. Don't straight.

SPEAKER_01 45:24

Yeah. But here's the thing, though. Yeah. Unfortunately, Joe is a such a good guy. Yeah. Man, you're gonna be able to get you're gonna get a great deal. That's one thing for sure. Uh uh. I I'll say this. It's only it's only one deal I want to do with him.

SPEAKER_03 45:47

Um boy.

SPEAKER_01 45:50

Zion Williamson, man.

SPEAKER_03 45:51

Oh, okay. I thought you were talking about the other dude.

SPEAKER_01 45:53

No, I I don't care nothing about Trey Murphy. What they want for him, absolutely not. You can give us, I um what they want for Trey Murphy, I'll do for Zion.

SPEAKER_03 46:04

What they asked it for?

SPEAKER_01 46:06

Uh, for Trey Murphy, man, they they want to give, they want to do like Beast Do Holland, the 21, uh, the number one draft pick. I mean, uh our 21st draft pick. And it's either a future first round draft pick or another. It's just way too much. It's way too much for the kid.

SPEAKER_03 46:25

Okay, so that's why, so that's why Trajan said what he said at the press conference, like, uh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:31

Yep. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 46:32

They got a plan and they're gonna stick with the plan.

SPEAKER_01 46:34

Yep, yep, yep. And uh what I like about those Duke guys being from Michigan, um, in those roles, them guys are great. Management-wise, those guys are very, very good. He he's done a great job with them. So I I I think the the room for him to make mistakes is is he's created a lot of room to be able to make a mistake uh or two here and there, but he's done a great job. So I think he'll do well uh this offseason.

SPEAKER_03 47:03

Yeah, I'm starting to trust him. Um a lot better than the last one, man. Oh my god. I couldn't stand it. Every time I see his face, and then he got to the point, what's his name again? His name is uh escapes.

SPEAKER_01 47:18

He's down in uh Troy Weaver. Troy Weaver, oh my god. Yeah, he's he's down with with Joe Dumas.

SPEAKER_03 47:25

Yeah, that makes sense. Both of them dude, look, man. I love Joe, but he set us back decades. You know what I'm saying? And then Troy Reaver, he man, he he messed up Ivy's head.

SPEAKER_01 47:42

I mean, just yes, he did.

SPEAKER_03 47:44

Oh, him and and and and Monty Williams, bro.

SPEAKER_01 47:50

Now I will say this, bro. Go ahead. I will say, oh, Monty was, and I I wanted Monty not understanding his track record. Uh he was basically ran out of New Orleans and Phoenix, he had a championship in his hand, and but because of his mentality and attitude, it slipped away. Um and he has a bad rep, man, for um hurting players, man. Uh, you know, Ivy is an example. He did Ivy so bold. Um and even the kid that's in.

SPEAKER_03 48:27

Ayton did Aiden, Aiden.

SPEAKER_01 48:29

Aiden, he did Aiden bold, man. So when you got that kind of relationship as a coach with players, that's bad for your organization. And that that proved that that that played out here.

SPEAKER_03 48:41

Yep. Yeah, it played out there too. Because uh E West, who lives in Arizona, he said, hey man, he did he did Aiden wrong. Even though Aiden didn't come through, but he said Aiden was a special player. He had he he had he needed a special person to reach out to him because every some some players need to be coddled, and he needed that. Williamson wasn't the wrong one, he was the wrong person for that job and lost him and lost the series.

SPEAKER_01 49:08

Yeah. Now, here's here's one big trade, bro, or one guy I would love to add to our team as long as it doesn't cost us a lot. And he's he's had some injuries, uh, but if we don't have to give up a lot to get him, uh Zach Levine.

SPEAKER_03 49:25

Yeah, yeah. I keep hearing this name.

SPEAKER_01 49:28

He gives us that extra score that you you can't double team K with him on the floor. Yeah. Um, plus Mr. Bias.

SPEAKER_04 49:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:42

But he's he's a veteran. He's been around a long time, he's been in some bad systems. But under I I just trust JB and his system.

SPEAKER_03 49:51

So you think he'll he'll play, you think he'll play defense here? Because he's a turnstile too.

SPEAKER_01 49:57

Yeah, because he would he because we have a brotherhood here. So uh I just think that once you get here, the guys here are so great, man, that you would you would buy into it.

Knicks Title Joy And What It Means

SPEAKER_01 50:10

You're gonna buy into it, or you're gonna be the odd man out. And if you're the odd man out, trust me, you will be gone.

SPEAKER_03 50:21

All right, man. You got anything else to say? Uh you want to talk about before we get up out of here?

SPEAKER_01 50:27

Uh I just want to give that shout out to the New York Knicks for winning it all. We we both wanted them to win. Yes, yes. Um in the previous, in one of our previous podcasts, I said I hope that uh it would be a gentleman's suite because I didn't want them winning it in New York because I thought you see all of the drama that has gone down in New York. Uh, but one thing about New Yorkers, they don't care what you got to say about them. They're gonna do what they gotta do. So salute to them. Big salute to Mike Brown for his career uh in beating the Spurs, which he actually lost to the Spurs with uh LeBron James. That's what so shout out to him, man.

SPEAKER_03 51:14

Yeah, yeah, man. Big ups to the Knicks. Salute to them. Uh I haven't been this happy for another team since I mean the Pistons. No, uh I was take that Golden State. I like Golden State.

SPEAKER_01 51:26

Yeah, yeah. I went and got me a Knicks shirt, bro.

SPEAKER_03 51:28

Oh, I'm about to give me one, dude. Um, it seemed like the country is celebrating. I don't know about your timeline, but my algorithm is all Knicks. And bro, I I'm I'm I'm feeling like I'm this emotional person, and I'm just feeling the emotion, and I'm seeing all these people celebrate. Yeah, and I saw a side-to-side picture uh OKC's parade next to New York's. It's just crazy. I mean, I think it was like two million people in New York, man. That's yeah, and that's easy to do. We talk about a city that's like nine million people, so two million out on the street is easy to do. Uh, and they just love that team.

SPEAKER_04 52:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 52:08

And and and I'm you know, and my one of my favorite TV shows is Law and Order SVU, and Marishka has a great relationship with Jalen Brunson. Yeah, and just seeing them together and her, her just whenever she talks about Jalen, she gets she gets emotional, tear up, and like he embodies this city, the grit and and the determination, and and and seeing all those, you you forget how much New York is in every household in America because hip hop, the movies, spikely, all of it, and even the Knicks, man, because one of the things I used to always complain about, uh, especially in the Christmas, NBA Christmas game, like even when the Knicks were crappy, why they keep showing the Knicks, man?

SPEAKER_02 52:53

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 52:54

They market. I I have a special relationship with New York. I had uh they're deceased now, but I had two uncles that played through every major venue as pianist through New York. Uh, I still have family there now. Uh I have a connection with the World Trade Center because I was in there the day before it went down. So I was there when uh 911 happened in 2001. You know, but uh again, I'm also uh uh you talking about the Lauren Order lady. Uh the the special video that uh Brunson had with Monica McNutt. I love her. Oh, yes, man. That was wonderful. Oh so yeah, big shout out to them, man.

SPEAKER_03 53:38

Did you see, did you see her reaction when they when she was calling the game when they won? How she just was yeah, man. I I'm just talking about I got I got goosebumps because she was just I know her. I I follow Monica and like she loves the Knicks. And this and I and I know where she is because when the Pistons won in the 2004, I was like how she was, and me and Eric West sat in the we sat dude. I was like, I don't know, I don't know when I'll be able to experience this again, so I'm just gonna soak it up. And I sat in my seat, bro, and I'm and I'm not I'm not exaggerating, it was three people and the whole uh the whole court. Uh it was just me, Eric, and a janitor.

SPEAKER_01 54:25

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_03 54:27

To where when we got out, was nobody outside, man. It was like, but I was just like, man, I can't, I just want to just just take this all in.

SPEAKER_01 54:35

And that's dope.

SPEAKER_03 54:36

And processing.

SPEAKER_01 54:37

Great memory.

SPEAKER_03 54:38

Yeah. And uh great memory. And so when I saw Monica give her response, I'm like, oh, she's there. I know I've been there before. And then later on, and I like how you know she was interviewing Brunson. And Brunson's like, You swifties, give my girl a break.

SPEAKER_01 54:53

She's a good one, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 54:54

She's a good one. Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:56

I absolutely love her, man.

SPEAKER_03 54:58

Like, she is Yeah, she's one of my favorites, man.

SPEAKER_01 55:02

I mean, she is man, I'm talking about her personality, the way she carries herself. Um, uh look-wise, she's a beautiful woman. She's married, so no disrespect to her husband. Yeah, right. But she is an incredible woman, man, and it speaks volumes. I love listening to her commentary. Um, so yeah, I was very happy for her and just all of the New York fans in the state of New York. Yeah, like Spike Lee, man. My dog.

SPEAKER_03 55:32

Yeah, and Spike Lee, and all of you know, Spike Lee, when he uh makes his movie, he he he keeps the same family of actors, and so all of those people are around surrounding him, the John Totoro's and all those people like that was in Do the Right Thing and all that, man. And just watch every actor that I've seen on TV throughout the years in the offseason, just they constantly wear Knit gear. And the fact that they finally get that chip, and I and I'm man, I am genuinely happy for all the New Yorkers and all the people that root for them. And because to me, man, it seemed like America, besides, you know, maybe some Boston and Philly people, they might not like this championship, but people are loving this championship, man. It's like uh like they're America's team right now. And I will say this, man, if if our team don't make it there, I want them to repeat. I want to re I want to I want to see a repeat of somebody. And I and I know we got this parody era, we haven't seen anybody repeat since the Warriors.

SPEAKER_01 56:39

The Warriors, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 56:40

And I don't like to see a team just be that beast where we I want to see them get knocked out. Like, who go who gonna knock them off the pedestal?

SPEAKER_01 56:47

Yeah, I could see I wouldn't want this, but I would be okay with it. But us versus them in the Eastern Conference Finals, uh a drag out, beat out seven-game series with uh maybe a one-point win in game seven, and that the Knicks go back and win it, uh repeat.

SPEAKER_03 57:10

Yeah, because uh I would say this if it wasn't for injuries, man, but we might be talking about OKC again, bro.

SPEAKER_01 57:17

That is true. That is true. Yeah, that Jay Will injury, uh, hamstrings hurt a lot of people this year. One thing about them hamstrings, it ain't the only thing that helped a hamstring is rest.

SPEAKER_03 57:29

Who has that Mitchell too was hurt, right? Was it Mitchell?

SPEAKER_01 57:33

Mitchell had the broken finger. Yeah. Yes. He played well with that broken finger, but he missed a lot of dunks. Uh well, you know, some shots close to the room. You could tell it affected him a little bit. And uh we were talking earlier about the racism in this country. Um a predominantly black team with a black coach, and we faced off against a black coach. Another, I mean, we the Knicks faced off us. So we're two black coaches in the uh in the playoffs in the championship. But that that Knicks team is a predominantly black uh black team, man. Yeah, they carried itself well. All of them are their class X, man. Everybody. Um Brunson, Hart, uh the Big Fellow, uh Kat and A. G and Anobi. Yeah. Had it not been for Brunson's 45-point closeout game, yeah. He should have been the uh MVP because he had a solid championship uh series.

SPEAKER_03 58:43

Yeah, yeah. It was funny because I think uh at the game two, they were saying cat, then it was saying OG, and then Brunson, like, hey man, it's mine. Yeah, you know, I love that he had took over, and I love how humble he is. And also, like he said, look, at the uh at the parade, he's like, man, all those people said all that stuff about us, like, but you know, when you when you prove him wrong, you ain't gotta say S. You ain't gotta say nothing.

SPEAKER_01 59:13

Yeah. Kat, go ahead and uh y'all go and make uh you and Jordan make that that that wedding official, man. Go make her your wife.

SPEAKER_03 59:22

Yeah, buddy. Yeah, do not.

SPEAKER_01 59:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 59:26

All right, y'all, man.

Where To Find Sean P And Closing

SPEAKER_03 59:28

Thanks for coming back on here, man. Where can the people find you at, man? Sean Pete.

SPEAKER_01 59:32

Uh, you can find me on Facebook at Sean Whitaker. You can find me on Instagram at Sean Picasso One, Twitter, Sean Picasso One, and Sean Picasso on TikTok. So, check me out.

SPEAKER_03 59:46

And on that, like always say, be you, share your gift, and keep those classes current. Peace out.

SPEAKER_00 59:52

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