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Welcome to this week's episode of HTM On The Line! I'm thrilled to bring you a special edition of our podcast, broadcast directly from the MDexpo in Las Vegas. This episode was recorded right in the middle of the bustling Vendor Hall. I had the fantastic opportunity to sit down with key vendors and sponsors whose contributions made this MDExpo a resounding success. Tune in to hear from notable names like USOC, Fluke Biomedical, PM Biomedical, SAGE Service Groups, and AIV. Enjoy the insights from our Day 1 interviews with these outstanding vendors at the MDexpo, in Las Vegas, Nevada.
Special Guest:
PM biomedical – Pranil Singh & Ali Youssef
Sage Service Groups – Lee Lewis
USOC Medical – Amy Hobbs, Hailey Larson, Ariana Ramirez
MW Imaging – Jessica Curtiss
Fluke Biomedical – Justin Ross
AIV – Gerard Edwards
This podcast is sponsored by The College of Biomedical Equipment Technology. You can find out more information about this outstanding institution at CBET.EDU.
Welcome to HTM on the line. I'm your host, bryant Hawkins senior. This week's episode is particularly exciting as we're broadcasting directly from MD Expo, las Vegas, right from the bustling vendor hall. Vegas, right from the bustling vendor hall. I had the fantastic opportunity to sit down with some of the top vendors and sponsors who played a pivotal role in making this expo a tremendous success. You'll hear from key contributors including USOC, fluke, biomedical, pm, biomedical, sage Service Groups and AIV. Enjoy the insights from day one of the MD Expo here in Las Vegas, nevada. We hope you find these interviews as enlightening and engaging as we did. Hello everyone. We're here at mv expo day one. I'm talking with mr lee Lee Lewis from Sage Service Groups. How are you doing today, lee Great Brian, how about you, sir? I'm doing fine.
Speaker 2So, lee, tell me about yourself If you can't tell from the accent. I grew up in a small town in Alabama. I currently live in Charleston, south Carolina, with my wife and two boys, and we love living at the beach, and I'm National Sales Director with Sage Services Group.
Speaker 1Lee, tell me exactly what Sage is all about as a company. What do you provide to this industry? What can you provide to the HTM industry?
Speaker 2Well, thank you for asking.
Speaker 2As a company, we're still a family-owned business and so our organization feels that way.
Speaker 2When you interact with our reps in the field, when you interact with our technicians for support, when you call in for tech support, and, at our core, we want to see this industry grow and we want to serve you all well. Well, we deal with patient monitoring equipment and the accessories that are associated with it. So if you have patient monitoring equipment and needs repair, we'd ask for you to maybe pick up the phone or jump on our website and take a look at what we can do to help. If you're a biomed who loves working on your own equipment and you're committed to your craft, please give us a call. We've got an abundance of parts, both new and refurbished parts, that are available. And then today we were talking earlier at the Leadership Summit about the ability to provide products at scale and the ability to help fill gaps that we experience through COVID from OEMs and make sure that patient care there's not a lapse in patient care. So for monitoring, repairs, service parts and the accessories that go with it, you can count on Sage Services.
Speaker 1Awesome. Now how can one contact Sage? I'll put it in the comments, but give us some ways they can contact you guys.
Speaker 2So the easiest way is to reach out to our website, which is SageServicesGroupcom. We've also got Salesforce in the field, so if you reach out to us at any time, we've got local representatives that travel around and we would love an opportunity to connect you with our Salesforce as well. So reach out to us on the website at any time and we'll be glad to get you connected.
Speaker 1How have you experienced being at MD Expo so far?
Speaker 2It's been fantastic. This is always a great event. Md Expo is a highlight on our calendar every year. We enjoy attending these things. I've enjoyed watching the expansion of new technology, new folks like yourself showing up with a booth and talking with folks like us. So it's been exciting to see the growth of the industry, and also with folks like you getting involved in social media.
Speaker 1So I noticed this morning you was part of the Leadership Summit. How was that experience?
Speaker 2It was great. It's so nice to be in a room full of leaders who are talking openly about solutions. At its core, this industry is patient driven, and we love hearing about best practices from other organizations and how to make things better for patient experience, for biomed experience, talking about industry requirements and how things can improve, and it was exciting to be there. So thanks for the opportunity to be a part of that. We appreciate it.
Speaker 1Yes, I noticed. I see you at all of the shows and you always have this smile on your face, so obviously you enjoy what you do. But what about attending all of the Biomed shows or trade shows or expos? That gives you this love or energy you have?
Speaker 2Well, I think it's a commitment to excellence that this industry promotes. It's easy to be happy when you're surrounded by people who love what they're doing. It's easy to be happy when you're around folks who are patient, focused, and so there's a certain energy that I pick up in all of these shows. And so, thank you, I appreciate you saying that about my smile, and, yeah, I genuinely enjoy working in this industry and being a part of what's going on at these expos at a national level, but also at the state level.
Speaker 1That's great and also, judging by your team, everyone seems to reflect your mindset. How many do you have with you today?
Speaker 2Just myself and Joseph Irby, who is our local representative out of North Florida, but behind us we've got a team of approximately 40 staff, men and women, who are committed to patient care, who are committed to excellence in the biomedical industry and covering the entire US and hopefully serving our customers well.
Speaker 1Yeah, Joseph knows my son well. He always tells me he reaches out to him. That's right. Well, I really appreciate, Lee, you stopping by and spending some time with me, but before you leave, is there something you would like to share with the HTM industry as a whole, some kind words or inspiration thoughts?
Speaker 2Inspiration or thoughts would be that this job with call and with middle-of-the-night requests, can wear you down, but I want you to know that you've got a large group of folks who are really pulling for you, who are excited to see this industry continue to develop. I hope that we find a way to bring more young folks into this environment. I think there's a real opportunity for people who are coming up right now to get involved in this industry and really have a major impact, not only in their own career but in the lives of patients when they're in the hospital.
Speaker 1Thank you for your time, Lee. It was great talking with you, man.
Speaker 2Always great to be with you, sir. Thank you for the time.
Speaker 1We're live here at MD Expo, day 1. I'm sitting here with two of my good friends from PM Biomedical. Introduce yourselves to everyone.
Speaker 4Hi, my name is Pranel, last name Singh.
Speaker 5And my name is Ali Yusuf.
Speaker 1Okay, and what are you guys' positions with PM Biomedical?
Speaker 4I'm the CEO.
Growth and Success in Healthcare Technology
Speaker 5Okay and COO. We're 50-50 partners. My background is technical repairs, pranel's background is sales and operation management, and we founded the company back in 2022. We decided to team up and, with the amount of knowledge that we both have combined, we were able to build a tremendous team with experienced technicians, top of the line sales reps that are in every state, and we're about 38 employees now, within two years, and we hope to continue growing. That's what I got from my side for now. You got anything to say?
Speaker 4yeah, we're based out of Santa Ana, california. Opening up a second location in Ohio shortly. We'll have a hybrid technicians there as well. But yeah, growing company and a great team.
Speaker 1That's great man. So let me ask you guys what do you guys bring to the industry that you think nobody else can do?
Speaker 4Well, we're trying to make ourselves different from all the other third parties by providing quality workmanship else can do. Well, we're trying to make ourselves different from all the other third parties by providing quality workmanship and fast turnaround times.
Speaker 5And I also think the culture, the culture in the workplace. You know we're a family. From sales to the back to the shipping department, we're all one family and I think that's a very strong thing to have within a company to be successful. So we try to keep a good work environment in the workplace.
Speaker 1So you say it was established in 2022. Have you guys seen a lot of growth since you came, since y'all first began?
Speaker 5Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, we were just trying to manage the workload that was coming in. We grew at a very, very fast pace and we just had to control and make sure that we're growing at the right pace too, because if you grow too quick, sometimes it never ends up successful. So you want to grow it slowly and make sure you perfect what you got going on before we continue.
Speaker 1Let me ask you this P I'm coming over to you. Yes, sir, you guys be at all the shows man and I love your boots. Who's the mastermind behind your boots?
Speaker 4Actually it's a combined effort from the girls that we have and me and Ali. We try to be different at all the shows, right? We try to do something that's going to wow everybody and make them happy. So you know, I think today we are giving away a bunch of golf attire, some hats and the tees and golf towels. So you know we're always different but you know it puts a smile on everybody's face and that's what we like to see.
Speaker 1Right, and I noticed one thing, ali, maybe you can comment on this you guys are heavily involved in CMIA, yes, so why is that? Why are you guys are heavily involved in that?
Speaker 4I think helping out the community, local is a big thing for us. We've, I've, I've been doing it for 20 plus years and I think the local having the local guys having their back, having, you know, supporting them, you know contributing to whatever we can to make it a stronger family, you know, and that's what we do, we like to go to all the CMIAs.
Speaker 5If I'm not there, Ali goes and the girls go but we like to represent, and a major part of our clientele is from our Orange County hospitals, the guys in our backyard. So without them PM Biomedical wouldn't be where it's at today as well. So we always love to give back to them, you know, show our appreciation.
Speaker 1What can you guys share with the HTM community with reference to PM Biomedical? What's one of the selling points you guys can tell?
Speaker 4Honestly, the thing I really grind on is our quality and our turnaround time and our customer service. On is our quality and our turnaround time and our customer service. We try to stay on top of all the three of those things and we understand how the biomeds there's a shortage right now and we're needed A third party is really needed and we're trying to help out as much as we can to help them out, because they have to answer to the hospital, the nurses and if a room's down, we have to make sure we get them quality product back and we're here to support.
Speaker 5And Pernell and I have been in the industry for a long time. He has 20 plus years of experience in this. I have about 10 plus years, so we figured out a lot of the weaknesses from working out other competitors and we were able to perfect that hopefully at our place and it's been running good man, we haven't had a. Everyone loves us, everyone loves the quality, everybody loves the turnaround time.
Speaker 4We're not perfect, but we try.
Speaker 1Hey, let me ask you this question because this I know has been a challenge with vendors. Are you guys having problems providing parts to your clients?
Speaker 4So that's one of my strengths is purchasing. That used to be my history. I used to be a purchasing manager and we have a lot of inventory. So, honestly, we have more inventory than needed, but now we have for the demands there.
Speaker 5we can provide, and we have parts as well in stock, and if we don't have it, we'll make it it's not just what brands phillips ge mind ray um, when, when biomeds need a part, you know they want it quick, so you gotta have it to ship out quick so that you? Um. That's why we strive on having a loaded warehouse at all times with mostly everything that we need. Yes, sir.
Speaker 1Well, guys, I appreciate your work. I appreciate you sitting down with me, of course. Thank you for having us. Any other time you want to come on the podcast. You know you're fully welcome.
Speaker 6Oh yeah, what's up, my man? All right guys. Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 1I'm sitting here right now with three of my favorite people in the HTM industry. I will allow them to introduce themselves first. Hello, ladies, how are you doing? Doing good? Hi, hello, hello. Let everyone know who I'm speaking with.
Speaker 7This is Amy Hobbs with.
Speaker 8USOC Medical and Haley Larson from USOC Medical, ariana.
Speaker 3Ramirez with USOC Medical.
Speaker 1I'm glad you ladies took a minute to come sit down with me. How is the MD Expo thing going for y'all right now?
Speaker 7It's been going great. We're obviously right by the door, so you know everybody is welcoming and people are coming into the booth and you can't miss us if you want to walk in Bam there's USOC, I know.
Speaker 3That's why we're here.
Speaker 1Now everybody know who USOC is. But for those who I don't know why, but don't know who you are, tell them about USOC. What do y'all provide to the HTM industry?
Speaker 7So USOC repairs and sales patient monitoring equipment. So we do monitors, modules, telemetries. We overhaul blenders and fusion pumps. We have recently started getting into a lot of perioperative equipment. So we are now doing some scopes, surgical equipment repairs, things like that, as well as some defibs and ventilators as well.
Speaker 8Basically anything that the biomed doesn't want to do, doesn't like to do, doesn't want to do. That's where we come in. Anything you guys need help with, it's on us.
Speaker 1They have staffing challenges. They can reach out to you. Guys need help with it's on us. They have staffing challenges.
Speaker 7They can reach out to you guys. So what part of the country do you guys cover? We cover pretty much the whole country. We have our original depot in Irvine, California, and we have a secondary depot in Houston, Texas now. So we're providing just about everywhere with shorter turn times because we have two different depots.
Speaker 1And if they want to get in contact with you guys. Website information what's your website?
Speaker 3Our website is wwwusocmedicalcom.
Speaker 8Just give us a call anytime.
Speaker 1Now you guys say you cover the whole country, so East Coast time is so different from West Coast. Do y'all have staff come in early In?
Speaker 7Irvine. We have employees that are there at five o'clock in the morning as well as techs that are there at 4.30 or five o'clock in the morning, so that we have two different shifts. To make sure that everything is fixed and done before FedEx comes In Houston, they're obviously there at seven o'clock in the morning, which is also, you know, six o'clock East Coast time, so we're able to get through a lot of different people and we're always answering the phones as early.
Speaker 8like I said, it's five o'clock you never have to press one when you call our customer service line.
Speaker 1One thing I always notice too you guys are at not only Amy MD Expo, but I noticed you go to all of the local associations. What joy do y'all get out of being associated with so many associations.
Speaker 3That one-to-one interaction that we enjoy. We like to meet our clients face-to-face. We like to put a face to who we're speaking with. It's different from when you get to speak with them over the phone or over an email conversation.
Speaker 7with that one-on-one, face-to-face conversation, we like to make sure that we're supporting as many biomed societies as we can, because everybody's important to us and we want everybody to know that.
Speaker 1So that's great. You guys help out with the associations giving back and I also want to give you guys a thank you because I just did a career day and the swag y'all sent me went over so well and I got pictures to share with you guys. They loved everything of it and I appreciate you guys giving back. Y'all always do anyway and I love y'all support and I feel like I'm indebted to y'all. So keep doing what you're doing. Now I want y'all to maybe share something with the HTM community that would set USOC apart from your counterparts. What would you say it is?
Speaker 7Customer service. The fact that we put customers first. It helps with everything that we do, because we want to make sure that everybody's taken care of. We know how important everybody's time is and how much the hospitals need equipment back, so we do everything that we possibly can to help them as much as possible.
Speaker 1You notice, the customer services must be something, because y'all boots are always crowded.
Speaker 8Someone's always going to answer. There's never going to be like you're pressing one or anything like that. Everyone's going to always answer, and if they can't answer it, they're going to transfer it to one of the sales reps that's going to.
Speaker 1And then I'll give y'all a quick shout out. Ari maybe more, because my son he was new to the industry but he just told me how nice you guys were helping him and supporting him. So that's pretty good to get someone that's new to the industry to have that feeling about somebody they don't know. Plus, I didn't even tell him about y'all. So that's made it even better because he really appreciates the support y'all give him. So I thank y'all for y'all time and y'all welcome to come back anytime, anyplace.
Speaker 8Thank you for having us.
Speaker 1Hey, I'm sitting here with a good friend of mine, Miss Jessica Curtis or is it Curtis?
Speaker 6Don't forget the two S's at the end, because we're super special.
Speaker 1There you go. So, Jessica, tell everyone who you are and who you're working with.
Speaker 6Okay, so I am with MW Imaging and I am working as their business development executive. I've been there for not super long at this point but helping just grow the business in a positive direction and, you know, new customers, new accounts, just trying to better the biomed field HTL.
Speaker 1Yeah, so you may be new to MW Imaging, but you're not new to the industry.
Speaker 6No, I've been in the industry for almost 10 years.
Speaker 1What does MW Imaging provide?
Speaker 6We provide support for ultrasound equipment, specifically replacement parts, probes, probe repairs and we also offer 24-7 technical support. So we're just kind of a one-stop shop for your ultrasound equipment and we service pretty much all manufacturers and nationwide. Nationwide. There are some regional areas where we can offer additional support as far as coming in helping out with PM service service contracts. So that'd be regionally.
Speaker 1And where are you based out of?
Speaker 6The company's based out of St Louis, but I live in beautiful Seattle. Go Seahawks. I'm just going to leave that right there.
Speaker 1So I noticed that you're first in the Expo, but how has your experience been so far?
Speaker 6MD Expo this year has been a wonderful experience. It's always just a great opportunity to connect, build relationships, maintain relationships, and there's just something beautiful about getting face to face with people.
Speaker 1You get to sit down and talk to me.
Speaker 6I get to sit down and talk to you.
Speaker 1Share some appetizers there you go Eat my appetizer. That's not a door. You had to speak to the HTM community. Why should they call NW Energy?
Speaker 6Connection. I think that while we can help service and support your equipment, we're just all about maintaining relationships too, and maintaining a positive relationship and really truly like working through your issues, your problems. What can we do to help while also maintaining a really high quality standard?
Speaker 1And you work with Amber and Connie out here today. Huh.
Speaker 6I do, and we're all matching.
Medical Equipment Companies at MD Expo
Speaker 1That's that green. I love it. I love it. Your company you mentioned is nationwide. How many people work in your company?
Speaker 6We're a very lean and mean team, so I think we have a total of hold on. Let me do the math real quick. I think we only have about 10 employees. So we're hiring, we're growing, we're bringing new people on and getting them trained up, and it's great.
Speaker 1So have you been meeting a lot of new faces this Expo.
Speaker 6I actually have met quite a few new faces this Expo. It's been great.
Speaker 1That's good. This is always a fun place. Well, I appreciate you stopping by, Jessica. Come by anytime.
Speaker 6Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1All right, appreciate you. I'm sitting here with Justin Ross from Fluke Biomedical. How are you doing today, sir?
Speaker 9I'm doing great man. I'm doing just fine.
Speaker 1So Justin, tell me about Fluke Biomedical. I mean, everyone knows about Fluke Biomedical because it's so huge. What does Fluke Biomedical bring to the HTM industry?
Speaker 9That's a really good question, man. So a lot of people know our analyzers. We've been around for quite a long time. You know the great things about Fluke Biomedical is that you can do a lot with our boxes and so you might have an analyzer and it might just be a patient simulator. If you really look into it, there's a lot of things really built into it. So we have our durability. We have free training on it on how to run it. It's free online training. You can get in and you can do that. But then when you hook up these boxes, you can do so many different parameters at one time. So that's one of the big things you bring to it, and a lot of the products we have are all UL listed. They're all super durable and you know you're going to last quite a long time with them. I'm looking at your shirt there.
Speaker 1You know, most think Flu, the biomedical side, but I see you have a race safe on the word, so I'm assuming you're on the imaging side as well.
Speaker 9We are. We are on the imaging side as well. So under the Fluke Biomedical website we have Fluke Biomedical, we have race safe and we also have land hours. So the radiation bandages we all kind of work together, which is really cool. We just launched out a brand new infusion pump analyzer. It was actually designed by the guys, a bunch of physicists, who designed our x-ray systems. So those things you're testing the RaySafe X2, they're the guys who designed our new infusion pump tester. And when I tell you, this thing is amazingly accurate, it is scary, amazingly accurate.
Speaker 1Now let me ask you this question, just kind of changing lanes. We're in the era of AI right now. Do you see AI coming into the test equipment realm?
Speaker 9For sure, for sure. You know, when I went to school 20 years ago 20, I have a white beard years ago, you know, we were all responsible for about 800 to 900 pieces of equipment. Now a lot of techs are pushing two and a half to 3,000 pieces of equipment. That's a lot of testing, but we kind of gave ourselves a bad name as biomeds man. We just became sticker lickers, you know. So change the battery and you ghost yourself in, you ghost yourself out. But now there's really a drive for these technicians.
Speaker 9What can we bring to the table? You know, implementing the new equipment and making sure it's working right in the facility. So that's a lot of tests that needs to be done. So if you're doing all this testing and you're recording actual, factual results now, you can use AI to extrapolate some of that data and mine it out and maybe start to show some trends of equipment. Where do you need to start thinking about replacing it, or you can move things to different types of PM cycles. Or maybe you find that maybe there's some training issues with the nursing staff that needs to go through. So AI is definitely coming, and right along with that is a lot of automation and a lot of really good automation programs. In fact, we have our own.
Speaker 1So is this your first MD Expo.
Speaker 9It is not. It's probably like my seventh or eighth, I do believe.
Speaker 1So how has this experience been going so far?
Speaker 9Oh, it's been awesome. We had a great class this morning. We talked about biomed superheroes, so we did that today and there's a lot of really great turnout. A lot of people walking around Got to go see some solar eclipse.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's great. That's great man. So if you had to, I know there's a lot of companies out there that manufacture test equipment what could you say that separates Fluke in your your opinion from the rest?
Speaker 9so that that is a good question. So a lot of things happen. So if you're in a hospital here in the united states and you're going to go buy a new piece of medical equipment, there's going to be in your rules. It has to be you all listed. So one of the things I tell people all the time if you're buying an analyzer, right, if you flip it over and look on the back side, do you see that UL mark? In our case it's called a CSA mark. It's one level higher but to get that you had to do that UL listing.
Speaker 9Not every analyzer has that UL listing. So laws of metrology say you want to use something at a higher resolution if it has something at a lower resolution. So if you go out and buy an analyzer that's not UL-listed or goes to this additional testing, is it still a higher resolution than the things that you're testing? So that's one of the things that really distinguishes us from the other competitions. We do a lot of extra testing. A lot of our devices are actually FDA-regulated medical devices. So the same stringent tests and rigorous standards that your patient monitors, your DFIBs, go through, a lot of our devices also go through. So every time we do a change and alteration, it's all again fed back to the FDA so that really sets us apart from a lot of the other competitions.
Speaker 1Oh man, I appreciate your time, Justin. You really shared some information. Man, Wish you the best and keep doing what you're doing, sir.
Speaker 9Thanks for letting me hang out. Thank you the best and keep doing what you're doing, sir.
Speaker 1Thanks for letting me hang out. I'm sitting here with AIV. Mr Gerard Edwards, Did I say that correctly?
Speaker 10Yes, sir, yes sir.
Speaker 1Okay, gerard, how are you doing today, man?
Speaker 10I'm doing great, doing great, my first expo here and first time in Vegas too. So I'm loving it. I'm enjoying it. What company are you working for? Aiv, american IV? Yeah, american IV. You sure AIV is the abbreviation, but sometimes you have to search American IV.
Speaker 1I was going to ask what the AIV stands for.
Speaker 10American IV, that's it.
Speaker 1All right, great, great. So tell me about American IV. What's this all?
Speaker 10about. Yeah, we've been a company. I believe it has to be, I think, 30 years, something like that. It's pretty old. We're a small operation. We have about, you know, something like 50 employees. So we're a small family not family, but privately owned company. We deal a lot of repairs for infusion pumps. We do some repairs with them. We also sell piece parts to other people. You might have heard of the PowerMate. That's our biggest product right now is the PowerMate. And then we're getting into the vet world too. We have a veterinary syringe pump. Veterinary syringe pump yeah, it's called the Vetro. Wow, really, vetro CRI, yeah.
Speaker 1So what makes it different from a human pump?
Speaker 10Just less certifications to get through. Yeah, it's our first syringe pump developed, so that's a good one.
Speaker 1Yeah, so them power mates. I see where y'all have changed the style of those. I think when they came out with the issues with the power strips, they wanted to have the count, I guess, to count the impedance or current on them.
Speaker 10Yeah, exactly. So it has a current monitor on it, the new PowerMates, the brand of PowerMate-CM. Yeah, it has a current meter on it. So when you plug in your appliances it'll tell you how much current you're running, and if you're running too much it'll have a red light, so it tells you your overcurrent.
Speaker 1So if you had to say what separates your company from your counterparts? What would be if someone was to say okay, why should I choose AIV?
Speaker 10Yeah, this might be. A lot of people might have a similar answer, but I think it's really the family environment that we have. Like I said, we're a small operation so everyone kind of knows each other. We all treat each other like family. Our sales rep do a great job. The head of sales, jeff great guy. I've been with the company for 25 years now. That's why I chose to work at the company was I came from. I'm an engineer there and I came from a more corporate environment. But working for that, for that small kind of company to tighten it, you know we'll, we'll take care of you, we care about our, our clients. I'll say that's what separates us.
Speaker 1Exactly Well. I appreciate you coming by spending the time with us. Man, you're welcome to come back to my podcast anytime you feel. Like it Understand you're a podcast guy.
Speaker 10Yeah, I like podcasts. Listen to them on my way into work every day.
Speaker 1Maybe you ought to get your one started. They can use more. Appreciate your time, John.
Speaker 10All right, Brian, Thanks man.
Speaker 1As we wrap up today's episode from MD Expo Las Vegas, I want to extend a heartfelt thank you to all the vendors who took the time to speak with us. Your insights and stories have truly enriched this special edition of HTM on the Line To our listeners. Thank you for joining us and sharing in the excitement and innovation from the heart of the vendor hall at MD Expo. Stay tuned for more highlights in part two of our MD Expo. Stay tuned for more highlights in part two of our Indie Expo coverage. Until then, this is Brian Hawkins Sr signing off. Let's keep pushing the boundaries of healthcare technology management.
