Blue Beams & Lake Monsters Unveiled

Welcome to Conspiracy Happy Hour, your go-to podcast for uncorking the world's most perplexing mysteries over a virtual drink. Pull up a seat as we pour over two mind-bending conspiracy theories: the Maui wildfires allegedly sparked by a blue laser, and the elusive Flatlake Head Monster.

Sip on your favorite beverage as we dissect the blue laser theory that shook Maui in 2019, exploring the evidence, theories, and controversies surrounding this baffling incident. Then, hold onto your seats as we dive into the depths of Flatlake's murky waters to unravel the tales of the mysterious creature said to lurk beneath.

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CHH - Episode 24
[00:00:00] Allison: So big. All right. The first five minutes of this episode is just all about cats right now. It's just cat talk. Yeah. She's like sitting on the computer right now, like a computer desk staring. 
[00:00:11] Dann: My cat is of course sitting on all my clean laundry, as one does. 
[00:00:17] Allison: That's about right. Because I didn't put it away.
[00:00:20] Allison: In case we didn't say so before. Welcome back, episode two of Conspiracy Happy Hour for 2024. 
[00:00:27] Dann: We're doing it. We're doing it. 2024 sounds 
[00:00:29] Allison: weird. It really does. But you know what? Usually like after the first month of saying it, you're like, okay, just normal now. But what do you, do you have plans for, well, actually, did you have plans for New Year's Eve, or are you unsure at this current point in time?
[00:00:49] Allison: At this current 
[00:00:49] Dann: point in time, I have zero plans. 
[00:00:52] Allison: I think I'm just gonna chill on the couch. 
[00:00:54] Dann: Me too. I, I've never been like a crazy person for New Year's. Like, it doesn't really do anything for [00:01:00] me. 
[00:01:00] Allison: I was saying earlier today, I was like, when I was younger, I used to think I was so cool staying up till midnight and like just doing whatever I wanted.
[00:01:09] Allison: And there was like the one night of the year that I was allowed to stay up and now I'm like, Mm-Hmm, , it's 10 o'clock, let's go back. I know. You're like, can this 
[00:01:15] Dann: ball drop? Can we, we got, I know we 
[00:01:17] Allison: gotta go to bed. I'm like, I gotta get the wine and charcuterie board in me to keep me going all night. 
[00:01:21] Dann: Yeah.
[00:01:22] Dann: And like the, and, and a part of me also doesn't wanna do anything 'cause like this upcoming. When we're recording, this is before Christmas, this upcoming holiday weekend, we have like Friday. We're doing something tomorrow, Saturday. Are 
[00:01:38] Allison: you doing the seven fishes thing again? 
[00:01:41] Dann: That's on Sunday. 
[00:01:43] Allison: Okay. Oh, that's the 24th.
[00:01:46] Dann: Yeah. And my sister's having a party on Saturday. Oh, and then we're, and then we're having Christmas on Christmas Eve because they have to work on Christmas. That's nice. And then, so, and then I have to go back to my parents on Christmas so we can open our gifts. So, like, I don't [00:02:00] really have time to relax this weekend.
[00:02:03] Dann: Holiday, 
[00:02:04] Allison: you never have time to I'm kind of not 
[00:02:05] Dann: even looking forward to it. I'm, I'm looking forward to New Year's Eve weekend where I have another three days to do nothing. Because I'm not going to have time to do any, to do nothing this upcoming holiday. 
[00:02:15] Allison: So, like I said, in the last episode, I have that little jiggler that I plug into my computer and it just shows me active your jiggle.
[00:02:23] Allison: Oh, yeah, yeah, exactly. You're a little jiggle. So I literally next week, my boss is off. Half my team is off. I expect to be doing absolutely nothing except paying attention to emails. 
[00:02:37] Dann: Same. I have like. Few things I like have to do. Yeah, they're like daily things that I need to do. But other than that, I'll I might wrap I don't know clean my room Yeah, like my gifts and 
[00:02:49] Allison: stuff.
[00:02:50] Allison: I I'm talking about the week between Christmas and New Year's Oh, I might wrap so like 
[00:02:56] Dann: never mind. I was talking about tomorrow Okay. [00:03:00] Yeah, 
[00:03:00] Allison: I will Tomorrow night probably 
[00:03:02] Dann: be doing not not the very bare minimum next week Tim 
[00:03:05] Allison: goes Should we just give it to them in the Amazon boxes? I said No, I said, you can just ask your fiance to do it like I 
[00:03:13] Dann: normally do, you know what he should have done.
[00:03:15] Dann: He should have when he purchased those things on Amazon, he should have clicked the little box that says this is a gift for you. Yep. Really? I don't I don't think it comes in wrapped as like wrapping paper. I think it comes in more of like a, like a Paper almost like a paper bag like a nice. 
[00:03:32] Allison: That's a pretty cool.
[00:03:34] Allison: So and that's usually included right and like it is included Yep, 
[00:03:37] Dann: it's just an extra box that you don't pay attention to at any other time of the year, but 
[00:03:41] Allison: never During this time of year too. I didn't know that was a thing. Mm 
[00:03:45] Dann: hmm. I do it occasionally It's not like the paper, but it's a wrap 
[00:03:51] Allison: wrapping it myself But like I hate giving gifts to people In a bag, like, I feel like half of the experience to giving somebody a gift is wrapping [00:04:00] it like we, you and I just had, well, two months ago 
[00:04:04] Dann: when you, when you get a bag gift for me tomorrow, pretend to like, 
[00:04:08] Allison: yeah, well, two, two months ago when this is posted, but like last week when we did with the white elephant party, we had struggling moving my foot around I wrapped the gift and then put them in a bag.
[00:04:24] Allison: Like, I'm very like. 
[00:04:26] Dann: It does show a little more effort. It's, it's nice. 
[00:04:30] Allison: I am so proud of myself for what I found for you and I can't tell you yet. Oh, okay. Well, like you better have this with you the next time we record. Okay. I can't wait. I can't wait 
[00:04:46] Dann: either. I think you'll like what I got you too. I think everyone will like what I got them.
[00:04:50] Allison: Yeah. So we're doing tomorrow night. You and I are doing a little Christmas party exchange. [00:05:00] So we're doing like breakfast for dinner. We have four, you and one other person coming over and then we're all exchanging gifts that we got each other and watching Christmas movies all night. It's literally the perfect perfect night.
[00:05:15] Dann: I bought, I got the stuff to make pancakes. Love that. Even though I forgot. Love that. Even though I forgot the syrup. So I have to go buy syrup before I come over. . 
[00:05:22] Allison: I have syrup. I can't promise it's good because it's like I'll stop, I'll 
[00:05:26] Dann: before I syrup. I'll stop before I come over. Okay? But I got for the toppings, a preview.
[00:05:32] Dann: I got blueberries, chocolate chip. And walnuts. 
[00:05:36] Allison: Oh, I love that. 
[00:05:38] Dann: I figured they'd be good in together or separate. 
[00:05:42] Allison: So there is, and I keep meaning to buy it and I have not bought it yet, but I might go to the store tomorrow. Actually, they have it at the liquor store by you, but it is alcoholic whipped cream and I really, really want to get it, but it would go perfectly on the [00:06:00] pancakes and waffles and waffles.
[00:06:04] Allison: I decided that I am just doing my breakfast casserole but I am, I did buy like cans of tomato juice and we have vodka so we can still make Bloody Marys and I brought little like gherkin pickle things so we can like stick them on toothpicks and have a baby garnish. Yeah, I am too. I think tomorrow night's gonna be really fun.
[00:06:28] Allison: I agree, but we'll have to, I'll, I'll text you later. We'll figure out what time everybody wants to come over and stuff, but I'm sure the people listening right now don't want to hear any more about our plans for Christmas that at that point have already passed. I know. 
[00:06:45] Dann: Two months later, we're having 
[00:06:46] Allison: Christmas.
[00:06:47] Allison: It's Valentine's day. No, it's not. It's still Christmas to us. 
[00:06:51] Dann: Should we dive into this episode 
[00:06:53] Allison: then? I love Lucy. Mandela effect. Ready? 
[00:06:56] Dann: Oh, wow. I don't, never 
[00:06:57] Allison: heard that. Me either. I have never heard of [00:07:00] this one. You know, like the famous line that they have, where she's like, Lucy, you got some splainin to do.
[00:07:07] Allison: Yeah. Whatever she says, however she says it. Never said that in any of the episodes. What? That was never a thing. 
[00:07:16] Dann: He never said that to her. 
[00:07:18] Allison: Not, you've got some splainin to do. He might have said it in a different way. Huh. But he never said that. What does he 
[00:07:26] Dann: say? 
[00:07:27] Allison: It doesn't say. Oh. We'll never know. He might have been like, we'll see.
[00:07:31] Allison: But not, you've got some splainin to do. 
[00:07:34] Dann: That's 
[00:07:34] Allison: crazy, that's wild. I swear, I love that show, Adam. I love that show. It's like one of the 
[00:07:40] Dann: popular, like, lines, or like I don't want to call it a meme, but like the 
[00:07:43] Allison: popular thing. somewhere, I have a refrigerator magnet that says that. 
[00:07:48] Dann: Yeah, everyone, that's probably the one line, if it's not that, or it's like the, the Vita Vita Vegemin episode.
[00:07:56] Allison: I love that, can we have an I Love Lucy re run? Or even 
[00:07:59] Dann: like the chocolate, [00:08:00] well the chocolate one's not words, but it's like the shoving all the chocolate. The shoving it in their mouths. Yeah. They're like the three things that everyone who watches 
[00:08:07] Allison: I Love Lucy. The Vita Vita Vegemin one is like probably one of my favorite episodes.
[00:08:10] Allison: Yeah. It's so funny. 
[00:08:12] Dann: It's so funny. I haven't watched that show in 
[00:08:14] Allison: forever. You have to. Here's the thing though. You have to watch it in black and white. As soon as they started advancing the color, it wasn't good. It lost its charm. Like, my thing. You need the nostalgic, like, it has to be black and white. But should we get into our rock, paper, scissors for the next episode?
[00:08:35] Allison: There's a dog down here. I'm ready. There's a dog right here. 
[00:08:39] Dann: Hello dog. 
[00:08:41] Allison: Gray. Ready? Huh. Rock. 
[00:08:46] Dann: Scissors. 
[00:08:47] Allison: Okay. Rock. Scissors. Shoot. Okay, you win. Okay, I'll go first this time. You won. Otherwise, the wine's going to affect me. Exactly. I don't 
[00:08:58] Dann: care anymore. Just go. You [00:09:00] win. 
[00:09:01] Allison: Alright, so, for my second for my conspiracy, this episode, I have something called Project Bluebeam.
[00:09:11] Allison: And I have not, I've heard of Instances where this applies, but I have not heard of the entire theory in itself. I don't think I've ever heard of this one. So this is a really interesting conspiracy and I do want to put like a quote unquote trigger warning out there that I will be talking about a few, like really sensitive topics that have happened in the U S history.
[00:09:37] Allison: So this is not anything supposed to be not anything offensive. It's just what I'm telling. Just sort of called the facts that are surrounding it. Yes. So in the 1990s the series started in the 1990s, excuse me, and suggest that powerful organizations wanted to deceive the world on a massive [00:10:00] scale.
[00:10:01] Allison: The trick involves holographic technology to make people believe in things that aren't really there. And the, the thought is that they're trying to create like this new world order where. Yes, people are all trying to get along and be harmonious. Maybe. I don't know. LOL. So the trick involves using holographic technology.
[00:10:25] Allison: I just read that. The thought is that this technology creates 3D images that look like huge events in the sky fooling everyone on earth. So The origin of this theory, and can I just say in the last episode, you said you had to read this a few times for the longest time I was reading this guy's name as Monistat, which if you're a female, it's like.
[00:10:50] Allison: A vaginal cream to stop the itching, and I don't know why, but I look at this and I can't stop seeing Monastat, it's [00:11:00] Monast, M O N A S T, so the man's name is a Canadian journalist by the name of Serge Monast, so he claims to have found found out about a secret plan by NASA and other big groups to use this tele Holographic technology, so apparently there were 4 parts to this plan.
[00:11:21] Allison: 1 was to fake religious events. 1 was to create a fake alien invasion. They also used it for mind control and simulating natural disasters, like earthquakes and pandemics. Pandemic. So, his writings became popular on the internet, but he did pass away in 1996 at the age of 51 from a heart attack. Now, Mon's death was also considered untimely and unexpected, the fact that he passed away at a relatively young age during a time when he was actively discussing a sensitive topic contributed [00:12:00] to speculation around his death.
[00:12:02] Allison: So there was a lack of detailed information provided to the public about circumstances leading to his heart attack, which may have also been which may have also fueled the speculation. I think it was just because of he died so unexpectedly and during a time where he was talking about a conspiracy that.
[00:12:23] Dann: Which is added to the fuel 
[00:12:24] Allison: to the fire not to mention too that there was lack of detailed information Nobody really had I mean, obviously they probably did autopsies at this time But nothing was really 
[00:12:39] Dann: released yeah, and people like to fill in the blanks 
[00:12:43] Allison: and hindsight to like I don't know if this is A situation that many people have on their minds where they're like, why did he die?
[00:12:51] Allison: No, probably half the world doesn't even know about this guy. So I don't know if it's never heard of him. Exactly. I don't think it's something that like, we have to put this on the news that he didn't die [00:13:00] because we did it. But. So, like I said, as I stated earlier, there were 4 main parts to NASA's plan that he was talking about.
[00:13:10] Allison: So the 1st, being the faking of religious events. 1 of the primary claims to project blue, blue beam was the use of holographic technology to simulate religious events, such as the 2nd coming of Christ or the appearance of other religious figures, is 
[00:13:31] Dann: this like throughout the course of history, or is this like he did this recently air quotes?
[00:13:37] Allison: Well, so the, the theory or the theory is that he was told about what the government was going to do and it had 4 parts. So I think that 1 of the primary claims. Was that they could do this. I don't think they have done this. Oh, 
[00:13:55] Dann: okay. It's not like these, these things are like claim quote unquote happened.
[00:13:59] Dann: It's [00:14:00] just like, we could 
[00:14:00] Allison: use this. Yes, they could project that there was like Jesus standing right. He's just coming down. Yeah. And it was the 2nd coming. And then the whole I think purpose of something such as that would be to create this new world religion that would unite humanity under a single global authority.
[00:14:24] Allison: So this religion is fun. Yes. So the religion would transcend existing belief systems as a service. As a serve, excuse me, as a unifying force, bringing together people from various cultures, religions, geographical backgrounds. So, I guess they were trying to basically. Unite the population into believing in one God, as opposed to all the different variations of religion.
[00:14:54] Dann: Yes, use the holographs like this new God has appeared. 
[00:14:58] Allison: Yes. [00:15:00] Now, it does get weirder in certain situations, like part 2 the alien invasion scenario. So another claim is to suggest that Project Bluebeam would create fake extraterrestrial Extraterrestrial threats such as massive alien invasion, the theory suggests that governments would use the projections to stage events, fostering fear and necessitating a global response, potentially leading to establishment of a world government.
[00:15:30] Allison: And I think in the past, I had covered the Betty and Barney Hill alien abduction case. Well, the theory would have been that they were never abducted the government projected this alien invasion and what they saw and then everything else from there was probably like under hypnotism and things like that.[00:16:00] 
[00:16:00] Allison: So everything that's visual is what is being holographically. Presented in front of them. So, I don't know about you either, but lately, my TikToks are like, aliens. All. Everything. 
[00:16:15] Dann: Now, Mine fluctuate between like, someone trying to sell me something. Someone. Yeah, me too. 
[00:16:23] Allison: The TikTok shop. Or like, digging in a pot of gold to look for your, Oh, you won this.
[00:16:28] Allison: Oh, yeah. The, 
the 
[00:16:28] Dann: fizzy people, I don't know how I get off of fizzy ring or ring talk or whatever you want to call it, but yeah, like I get some conspiracy stuff. Surprisingly. I don't get a lot. I guess 
[00:16:40] Allison: I've looked up conspiracies on Tiktok too, but I do have 
[00:16:44] Dann: a lot saved for, I was like, I'm going to do this when we start recording again.
[00:16:48] Allison: Yeah. And actually the project blue beam is what was the project blue beam. Yes. There's a part that I'm gonna touch on later in this conspiracy that I [00:17:00] actually initially found out about this from that TikTok. Mm-Hmm. . But if you have heard, there was an, I think it was in New Mexico, there was a story where somebody ended up calling the cops because there were.
[00:17:20] Allison: There was something in their backyard and they didn't know what it was and they had video of it and everything. And it was like, like, like an alien. No, that's another one. We should cover later, but it looks like an alien and the cops saw it. And nothing was really done with the cops. Like, I don't know 
[00:17:42] Dann: what we don't do that.
[00:17:44] Allison: This is not my forte. We are skipping this one, but I wanted to find more on that, that story. I couldn't find it, but there, that was, that was a really scary one because it was actually also reported on that local news station [00:18:00] as well of, well, 
[00:18:01] Dann: definitely have to do 
[00:18:02] Allison: that one later. Yeah. Well, there's a couple that I'm going to yeah.
[00:18:06] Allison: Kind of cover within this that I'm like, all right, I need to elaborate on that 1 more. So, but part 3 of this theory was a telepathic mind control. So project Bluebeam conspiracy theories extends. It's intrigued to include some. Idea of telepathic mind control. Some versions of the theory proposed that orchestrating project blue bell or blue bell blue beam would utilize advanced technologies to influence and manipulate people's thoughts and beliefs directly.
[00:18:38] Allison: Proponents of this theory claim. That the alleged technology would target the cognitive processes of human brain, allowing external forces to control or manipulate the way people think all right. Part 4 kind of touches like, [00:19:00] really close to what we've. Kind of been experiencing in the past few years, which is engineered earthquakes and pandemics.
[00:19:09] Allison: So, part 4 of this conspiracy proposes the idea of using advanced technology to engineer artificial earthquakes and pandemics. The ultimate goal is to manufacture the illusion of science. Manufacture the illusion of simultaneous world worldwide crisises, both environmental and health related 2 years ago.
[00:19:37] Allison: I guess at this point, we just went through a pandemic. Yeah, so the claim is that these earthquakes would be strategically. Triggered to create chaos and the pandemic on the, or a pandemic on a global scale, fostering the perception of a natural crisis. Other aspects of the theory [00:20:00] involved the use of technology to simulate pandemics.
[00:20:04] Allison: So this means they could create or change information about the disease to make it seem like there's a big global health emergency. And if you think about it. The first, what, six, seven months of this pandemic, they made everybody stay inside everything, everything. And the government was shut down, everything, restaurants, stores, everything.
[00:20:26] Allison: It was crazy. Yet somehow the liquor store stayed open. So 
[00:20:31] Dann: if they, if they close those, there would be a riot. Yeah. We're like, yeah, that was the highlight of my, my week was like. Going to the liquor store or grocery shopping. Cause that was the only other thing I opened. 
[00:20:44] Allison: Yeah. Yeah. There was no like door dashing or anything at the time.
[00:20:48] Allison: It was just like, you want to escape? You can go to the food store and grab food. 
[00:20:52] Dann: You're like, yeah, go grocery shopping and there's no toilet paper. Woo hoo. 
[00:20:58] Allison: Paper towels, 
[00:20:59] Dann: [00:21:00] leaves back. 
[00:21:02] Allison: So the first instance of this project blue beam that people think kind of did the kickstart into all of this was 9 11. People believe in this theory and say that 9 11 attacks was a practice run.
[00:21:18] Allison: The fear and shock from those tax were used to test how technology can manipulate people's thoughts and feelings on a bigger scale. Some people who believe that project blue beam say that the advanced technology seen in nine 11 attacks, like the airplanes and the controlled demolitions was a way to show that kind of technology could be used later to trick the public into believing on a much bigger level.
[00:21:47] Allison: So basically the airplanes that you saw crashing into the buildings were a holograph. That's not actually exist. But the government had [00:22:00] planted these explosives down the buildings to implode the building and leading to quite a few deaths and controlling the population. So that was the practice run for Bluebeam.
[00:22:16] Allison: Now, if you think about it too, it kind of, it seems like it worked. United, not even the country, but the world at that time against attacking the Taliban, like, all at once. Nothing 
[00:22:31] Dann: brings people together than a common enemy. 
[00:22:34] Allison: Like, hating somebody so badly, 
[00:22:37] Dann: like work.
[00:22:41] Allison: So a few of the other examples of this theory is hurricane Katrina in 2005. So some conspiracy theorists have suggested that hurricane Katrina was artificially manipulated as part of project blue beam to create chaos, test the [00:23:00] public's response to a larger scale. The 2nd, 1 or another example was in 2010 the Haiti earthquake.
[00:23:08] Allison: And then in 2011, you have. The Japan earthquake and tsunami. Now, so this 
[00:23:16] Dann: blue beam in this instance. Is not a projection. It's actually manipulating something to cause these events to happen. 
[00:23:25] Allison: It says alleged the events were engineered to manipulate public perception and gauge global reactions. So, I don't know necessarily, like, how they would have engineered this earthquake, but I'm sure if they really wanted to started 
[00:23:41] Dann: shaking the ground, they're like, 
[00:23:42] Allison: yeah, so, yeah.
[00:23:46] Allison: The last one that I wanted to save is a very, very recent situation. And to me, it's the one that kind of seals it, that this could actually be a possibility. So this year[00:24:00] Hawaii had in Maui had faces gigantic forest fires. And 
[00:24:05] Dann: I don't know if you saw on Tik TOK, but I saw on Tik TOK, I think it was in.
[00:24:10] Dann: It was one of the Scandinavian countries where they just had a volcano eruption. Really? Did you see that? Yeah, and there was, I saw a TikTok and it was the video of the mountain volcano and it literally went, like, it lit up the sky. It was crazy. 
[00:24:25] Allison: See, that scares me. I don't want to live anywhere near a volcano.
[00:24:29] Dann: I know, but we actually live next to a very large fault line. I don't know if you knew that. It's just dormant. 
[00:24:36] Allison: I'd rather not know sometimes I just I'd rather I don't 
[00:24:40] Dann: think it's it's why we sometimes experience earthquakes. It's literally runs down the Delaware River. 
[00:24:47] Allison: I do only remember feeling one in my entire lifetime.
[00:24:51] Dann: I missed the one we had. I was in the car. I didn't feel it. 
[00:24:55] Allison: I was working at a daycare and I had just taken a group of like [00:25:00] 10, 10 year olds outside, five year olds maybe to the sandbox. And I was like, did you just feel that? What was that? But anyway, 
[00:25:09] Dann: I was driving from, you, you probably know exactly where this location is.
[00:25:14] Dann: I was driving from the Staples in Woodbury Heights and it was, yeah. On 45 and I went, I left there because I was doing back to school shopping and I went there and I was, I was literally, well, call it back to school. I was in college and I was leaving that plaza, whatever you want to call it and going across the street to the Liberty gas station.
[00:25:36] Dann: And in that period, and in that period of like. Maybe not even 5 minutes. I missed the earthquake and my dad's 
[00:25:43] Allison: calling. It could not have been 5 minutes. You're literally traveling directly across the street. That'd be like 5 seconds. And 
[00:25:50] Dann: my dad's calling me. He's like, Oh, my God, are the animals okay? What's going on?
[00:25:52] Dann: I was like, what are you talking about? I'm getting gas. 
[00:25:56] Allison: I was like, something doesn't feel right right now. 
[00:25:59] Dann: But [00:26:00] the kids are shaking, something's wrong, 
[00:26:03] Allison: but back to the Hawaii fires. I can't show this image right now. I'll have to post it or if you all want to look it up. So, there was a photo that circulated during the time of the Hawaii fires now.
[00:26:18] Allison: A lot of conspiracy theorists did say that this was the cause. Now, this photo looks, let me see if I can Google it as I'm talking. But this photo looks like a laser hitting the earth. And it's crazy. It's an extremely sharp beam going straight down. At the bottom of this image you can see What looks like a small fire and smoke and you don't see anything else.
[00:26:52] Allison: Let me see if I can pull this photo up a little bit better. This is a [00:27:00] extremely bright beam. It is straight down. You can see all of the smoke here. There's a little bit of a fire right here. Right here. I don't know where 
[00:27:09] Dann: you're looking. You have the smoke coming from the laser. Yeah, 
[00:27:12] Allison: so. To me, this looks exactly like a laser, right?
[00:27:17] Allison: There is a lot of articles surrounding this this claim that this is something that started the fires. Let me see if I can get my screen back up. Google 
[00:27:29] Dann: Drive. This reminds me of the, the Jewish space leisure that all the Republicans talk about. I wonder if it has anything to do with that. 
[00:27:38] Allison: I honestly don't.
[00:27:39] Allison: Have never heard of that. 
[00:27:41] Dann: Really? Okay. I'll, I'll do it on the next one. I'll do it on the next one. 
[00:27:45] Allison: So after I saw this image, because this, like I said, this circulated so many times during the Hawaii fire situation, there were talks about it. So many reports. However, from my findings in total [00:28:00] this was not actually what started the fire.
[00:28:03] Allison: This was actually an event that happened in. 2018 but the articles, some of the articles, they're still mixed, mixed emotions about this, but some of the articles did state that this was some sort of, rocket launch, SpaceX Falcon nine rocket launch. Now I used to go to, when I was a kid, I used to go to Kennedy space center all the time.
[00:28:31] Allison: My dad used to be like, so into like astronauts and space and all that stuff. So there have been quite a few instances where I have seen rockets launch in space. It has never been as precise as that line that I saw that is an orange line straight down. There is no question to me. That is 100 percent a laser.
[00:28:57] Allison: Now. This picture [00:29:00] very well, maybe from 2018, I'm not arguing that fact. The problem that I have is that if something like this could be created or thought of in 2018, what's to say this couldn't start the Hawaii fires in 2023. Now, all so this on online is considered a D. E. W. which a D. E. W. is a direct energy weapon.
[00:29:28] Allison: And there have been a lot of reports of direct energy weapon. Instances, if you ask me, like, I said, this is not a photo of a rocket launch. This is a laser. And I, I kind of believe that it could be a possibility. To population control, things like that, to have a laser start this [00:30:00] massive fire. And this is a massive fire.
[00:30:02] Allison: I think like at least 3, 000 people died in this fire on 
[00:30:07] Dann: Maui. And it could have even been just like a test that went wrong, you know, like anything. And that was the, and the coverup was a. Massive wire file fire that someone dumb started by accident. 
[00:30:21] Allison: Now, I did hear a conspiracy kind of included with this that if you look at the photos of the wreckage of these fires, a lot of the items that survived, like benches, cars.
[00:30:38] Allison: Houses, things like that were all blue items. I didn't really do research into this, but it's just like there would be a blue bench in a park and that blue bench would be untouched, but all the trees, the grass, the gravel pavement, everything around that was [00:31:00] burnt up. I don't know if anything like blue in color pertains to the theory itself, but it was just an interesting 
[00:31:08] Dann: fact.
[00:31:08] Dann: It's almost like anything. It almost sounds like anything, like, organic was destroyed, but, like, the metal, Anything that 
[00:31:15] Allison: was, like, even coated in blue. Yeah. 
[00:31:18] Dann: That's interesting. Maybe that'd be a good, like, follow up. Yeah. Conspiracy. 
[00:31:23] Allison: I, I do want to elaborate on, like, certain things that I did touch in with this.
[00:31:29] Allison: Like, I would love to do a longer episode about the conspiracies surrounding the forest fires. Or the conspiracies surrounding 9 11. So it did touch on a lot of things that I would Be interested to look into more. 
[00:31:43] Dann: Yeah, I didn't even know there was any around the fire, so that's be cool to hear. Oh, you didn't?
[00:31:47] Dann: Oh. 
[00:31:47] Allison: No, I had no idea. There's quite a bit. Yep. I tried to save some of it, but I can't find the one video that I saved on my phone. I can only find the second one, so I might have to piece together some stuff. [00:32:00] 
[00:32:01] Dann: Well, that'll be the next episode of Conspiracy Happy 
[00:32:04] Allison: Hour. Yeah, maybe that's going to be a lot of research still to know, but yeah, that was my conspiracy.
[00:32:10] Allison: So, I'll let you go on with yours. 
[00:32:12] Dann: That was really interesting. I never heard of the blue beam or whatever you just called it. No 
[00:32:17] Allison: blue, the project blue beam. Yeah, I I never did. I'm 
[00:32:21] Dann: wearing blue. 
[00:32:23] Allison: You're safe. Oh, so am I. 
[00:32:25] Dann: We're safe from the laser. My conspiracy for you today. Is a creature, a cryptid, if you will, it is kind of, it's not, I don't think I covered this one yet, but it's another, like, cousin to the world famous Loch Ness Monster.
[00:32:47] Dann: Okay. We have, we have a few in the United States. There's this one, which I'll go over, and there's Champy. Chupacabra. No, not the Chupacabra. That's a, 
[00:32:56] Allison: that's a legend of an animal. 
[00:32:58] Dann: But I mean, I mean as like [00:33:00] a cousin as in kind of like a dinosaur. Yeah. Okay. Water creature. Champy from Lake Champlain from one of the Great 
[00:33:09] Allison: Lakes.
[00:33:10] Allison: Okay, so you're going to have to write all these down because I've never heard of that 
[00:33:12] Dann: either. Oh, okay. Yeah. So I'll do I'll I'm sure I love my cryptids. I just got one tattooed on my arm. So I'm full full on conspiracy. It's too new. I forgot. I actually just got a tattoo of the Loch Ness Monster. You can see a 
[00:33:34] Allison: whale deck.
[00:33:37] Allison: Yes, I did see that. I love it. 
[00:33:40] Dann: I mean, it's true. It's like, it's either like, Oh, it could be a log or it could be a whale deck. You never know. But the one I'm bringing you today is the flathead lake monster. So deep within the depths of the flat lake, flathead lake, a cryptid creature lurks, captivating the [00:34:00] imagination of locals and everyone else.
[00:34:03] Dann: It is the Flathead Lake Monster, affectionately known as Flossie. I love how they have these cute names. Nessie, Flossie, Champie. Since its first sighting in 1889, so it's, it's old. This elusive creature has become stuff of legends with over 79 documented accounts of encounters. Eyewitnesses describe a 
[00:34:31] Allison: good you froze and then you pick back up.
[00:34:34] Allison: Okay. Let's just stop you for a second. We're good now. 
[00:34:36] Dann: Eyewitnesses describe a creature of immense proportions measuring anywhere from 20 to 40 feet in length. It's appearance resembles that of a large eel with a round, brown, and blue back body. It's most striking feature is it's steel black eyes and undulating movements [00:35:00] reminiscing of a snake.
[00:35:00] Dann: So this one is more of a serpent. It's not The Loch Ness well, it depends on what you look 
[00:35:07] Allison: at. It's like a giant snake, it's not, like, humps. 
[00:35:10] Dann: Yeah, like, sometimes you look at like, the version of the Loch Ness Monster I have on my arm, is like, if you have ever watched Pokemon and seen Lapras. That's the ver that's that version of the Loch Ness Monster.
[00:35:22] Dann: There's also serpent versions of the Loch Ness Monster, too. Which is probably the ones that you see that look like whale dicks.
[00:35:30] Dann: So accounts of the Flathead Lake Monster come from people from all over the place, from first time visitors to long time residents and from professionals, you know, such as doctors. All walks of life have claimed to see the Flathead Lake Monster. The creature's presence knows no boundaries, captivating the curiosity of anyone who tries to find it.
[00:35:57] Dann: The Flathead Lake Monster has been sighted in various [00:36:00] locations around the lake. Areas such as Skidoo Bay, Polson Bay, and the Narrow, and the West Shore Road. Where is that? 
[00:36:09] Allison: Like, in the United States? 
[00:36:11] Dann: Yes, in the United States. Doo doo doo. These regions are surrounded in mystery, as falsity could reveal itself at any moment, thrilling those who seek a glimpse of the unknown.
[00:36:25] Dann: The Flat Lakers, is what they call themselves. A local group dedicated to preserving the lake's nature. Natural beauty. Have taken a keen interest in the Flathead Lake Monster. They encounter anyone who spots the creature to come forward and share their experiences. The Lakers, which is funny, assure witnesses that their reports will be taken seriously and added to the historical archives of the Flathead Lake Monster.
[00:36:55] Dann: Remember, they are here to listen, not to dismiss. [00:37:00] 
[00:37:00] Allison: Have you ever seen the show finding Bigfoot? I have. Yeah. On Animal Planet. That reminds me of like those like town hall meetings that they used to have in the beginning of the episodes, like Bigfoot. Like, I feel like that's what they're doing. Like who's seen the monster?
[00:37:16] Dann: I don't know if I, well, I didn't say it on the podcast before, but when I was in Scotland in August, right? We, well, we started in London, but the majority of the trip was in Scotland and we did like a whole little trip. And one of the trips we did was the Highlands and we went to St. Augustine, which is actually the name of the town that is on Loch Ness.
[00:37:40] Dann: The town's not called Loch Ness. The body of water is Loch Ness. So, we're there, blah, blah, blah, having a great time, eating some fish and chips. Fast forward to the end of the trip, we're home, the following weekend, can I tell you, Allison? Yes. That. Yeah. The following weekend, I see [00:38:00] online that the Loch Ness Monster like 
[00:38:04] Allison: It was a sighting.
[00:38:05] Dann: Society, or whatever you want to call it, that, almost like what I'm describing here, the flat, the Lakers, were there 
[00:38:12] Allison: at Loch Ness. Oh my god, that would totally be something you would have had to record. With drones We have to look for a time they're doing it. We have to go back. We missed 
[00:38:20] Dann: it. It was the week after I left.
[00:38:23] Dann: Oh, 
[00:38:23] Allison: they were, they had, we had to plan our whole trip around 
[00:38:26] Dann: that meeting. They had drones, they had boats. They were all there on Loch Ness. And I was a week, I missed them by a week. And I had, oh no. Had no idea. I was so mad. I was so mad. So, yeah, I'll go back. You didn't tell me that yet. Well, it was, I was so traumatized by missing Nessie.
[00:38:44] Dann: That , I didn't wanna tell anyone. But back to this monster, back to flossy. Flat Lake, the alleged dwelling place of this mysterious creature, is a magnificent body of water nestled in the northwest region of Montana. [00:39:00] It stretches approximately 28 miles in length and 16 miles in width, making it the largest lake in the western United States.
[00:39:09] Dann: Fed by two rivers, the Flat Lake and the Swan River. Reverse the fed by 2 rivers, the Flathead River and the Swan River. This natural wonder covers an area of almost 200 square miles and is. as deep as 370 feet. It's actually pretty deep. So Flossie has been described as an eel shaped creature with a serpentine body.
[00:39:37] Dann: The Flathead Lake Monster's appearance is often associated with that of the renowned Loch Ness Monster, ranging from 20 to 40 feet in length. It possesses Oh, I just, I said this already blue black skin and striking grayish black eyes, witnesses have reported its head resembling a bowling ball, while others have [00:40:00] described multiple humps emerging from the water surface, indicating a possible connection to the legendary creature of Loch Ness.
[00:40:09] Dann: The first documented sighting of the Flathead Lake Monster dates back to 1889 when passengers aboard the U. S. Grant, a lake steamboat, encountered a large whale like object approaching them. See? Whale like penis. Since then, numerous sightings have been reported, with most occurring during the summer months when the lake attracts an influx of tourists seeking adventure and relaxation.
[00:40:36] Dann: To shed light on the phenomenon, Dr. Alan Hansel, a renowned cryptozoologist and expert in mysterious creatures. He studies the Flathead Lake Monster because it remains, like, just as an enigma as The Loch Ness monster. So is [00:41:00] the Flathead Lake monster a living dinosaur? Dr. Hansel says, I highly doubt it.
[00:41:05] Dann: I don't know that people are seeing, but I don't know that. It really doesn't make any sense, this quote. He says, I don't know what people are seeing, but I don't know that it is anything that exists. I was like, cool. Thanks, 
[00:41:19] Allison: Dr. Hansel. I don't know if it's what people are seeing, but I don't think it actually exists.
[00:41:25] Allison: So the question was, do you think it's a dinosaur? 
[00:41:28] Dann: Mm hmm. But, he believes that the creature's origin lies beyond the realm of conventional zoology. He suggests that the stories of the Flathead Lake Monster, passed down through the generations of Native American tribes, who once inhabited the area, have fueled the collective desire to believe in its existence.
[00:41:46] Dann: So they ask him, why is there something in Loch Ness? Because people want to see something in Loch Ness. We will never be able to prove a negative. And that's why people want to believe. So, like, after all these years, like, [00:42:00] It's just like Loch Ness, why people want to believe in this one. They want to believe in the story.
[00:42:04] Dann: They want to believe that this creature is out there. 
[00:42:06] Allison: It's just fun to think about. As we've said with conspiracies the whole time. But, it's something that's fun to question. 
[00:42:13] Dann: Yeah. Why wouldn't you want to mythological creature to live in your backyard. 
[00:42:19] Allison: You, you've, you want to feed into the rumors. 
[00:42:24] Dann: I mean, I did it.
[00:42:25] Dann: I got it tattooed on my body. So as the, as the sun sets over the glistening waters of Flat Lake, the mysterious The mystery of the Flat Lake Monster remains unsolved, whether Flossie is a remnant from a bygone era or a figment of the collective imagination. One thing is certain, the legend of the Flathead Lake Monster continues to fascinate and beckon adventurers to explore its depths, hoping to catch a glimpse of this elusive creature that dwells within one of Minnesota's Nope.
[00:42:55] Dann: Montana's most breathtaking natural wonder.[00:43:00] 
[00:43:02] Dann: And that's Flossie. That's the story of Flossie.
[00:43:09] Dann: Like, not even the right state.
[00:43:15] Dann: It is. It's right there. I'm looking at the word Montana and I said Missouri. You 
[00:43:22] Allison: know, 
[00:43:26] Dann: I've had, I've almost done this bottle of wine, haven't eaten, haven't eaten dinner yet, actually. So I should probably do that after we're done. 
[00:43:35] Allison: Same. Well, you won't have to worry because tomorrow we'll be like super full.
[00:43:39] Allison: So. 
[00:43:39] Dann: I know. But yeah, that is that's the story of Flossie, the cousin of Loch Ness Monster Nessie. 
[00:43:46] Allison: Well, I think next we're going to have to cover Loch Ness then, because we haven't done that either. I know, and Shampy. Yes. There's actually 
[00:43:56] Dann: a lot of cryptids in the United States. Yep, that's another [00:44:00] one. I never did the Jersey Devil yet, did we?
[00:44:04] Allison: Yeah, we did. You did it. Did I? I thought so. I don't think so. I don't know. I'm starting to forget what we covered and what we didn't. I have to look back on our episodes. There is a guy in the area who's like a Jersey devil. Actually, I don't think we did. No, because we 
[00:44:23] Dann: talked, you talked about that guy before.
[00:44:26] Allison: Yeah. Eventually, I'll reach out, but, you know, I haven't yet, so. Well, 
[00:44:32] Dann: I do want to do some planning around that one, because I think we should reach out to that guy. And I also want to get a recording of my mom, because my mom has an experience 
[00:44:40] Allison: with the Jewish people. She does. You did say that. Yep. 
[00:44:43] Dann: And I want her to, like, I want to get a recording of her retelling it.
[00:44:47] Dann: So, I think that should be one that we, like, play and do together. Could she 
[00:44:51] Allison: be the next episode of that? Your mom on this podcast would be So funny. I know. 
[00:44:59] Dann: She'd be so [00:45:00] funny. She would be just screaming and telling a story about how she just ran over the Jersey Devil. 
[00:45:05] Allison: She'd be like, yeah, I'm talking. 
[00:45:08] Dann: But yeah, that would be great.
[00:45:10] Dann: I think that'd be a good one that we'd plan 
[00:45:12] Allison: out. She could that episode. We're going to have to do another guest episode soon. 
[00:45:17] Dann: Yes. Get my mother terrifying 
[00:45:18] Allison: experience. Although Tim is volunteering. He is totally down for doing another episode. I think he wants to replace you. So,
[00:45:29] Dann: I know he's trying to break. He's trying to break into conspiracy. You 
[00:45:32] Allison: or replace both of us and create his own conspiracy podcast. 
[00:45:36] Dann: He can do that. He can have no one listen to 
[00:45:38] Allison: it. It's not a part of this one. So. 
[00:45:42] Dann: We'll kick him out. We already did. I know. Kick him out again. 
[00:45:50] Allison: But well that, that's our second episode of the year.
[00:45:54] Allison: We did it. We're back. So far. We're back. We're killing it. I don't know. This was, [00:46:00] as much as it's a pain in the ass sometimes, this was actually a lot of fun to record and to look, look up like the conspiracies or newer things. So 
[00:46:11] Dann: Yeah, kind of like reignited my, my passion fire. 
[00:46:14] Allison: Now I have to go record or research my next conspiracy.
[00:46:18] Allison: So we have like the next few months going, but this was good. I feel really proud of us to be back into it, but yeah, we'll stay consistent from here on out. 
[00:46:30] Dann: Yes, we did it. We did it. Everyone only. Two bottles of wine down. We did 
[00:46:35] Allison: it. Two bottles for two people. Let's not get crazy here. Yes. A bottle of 
[00:46:40] Dann: peace.
[00:46:41] Dann: Yeah, 
[00:46:42] Allison: but 
[00:46:42] Dann: it is. So thank you all for listening and then we'll be back with the next 
[00:46:47] Allison: one. We'll see you next time on conspiracy. Happy hour. 
[00:46:50] Dann: Bye. Cheers.