Speaking Sessions

Communication and Personal Development with Philip Sessions

Philip Sessions

What if the secret to a successful career transition lies in the art of communication and personal growth? Join us as we navigate an enlightening conversation with Philip, a guest on Irvin Retiz's Breakthrough Society Podcast. Listen to his captivating journey, which began in bustling Houston and led him to the tranquil mountains of South Carolina, where he started two coaching ventures - one aimed at engineers and another focusing on group coaching.

Philip reveals how engineers can bridge communication gaps with HR and business owners. He emphasizes leading by example, focusing on the big picture, and how effective communication boosts leadership. We also discuss dressing appropriately, regular updates, and mastering human interaction for professional success.

This episode isn't just about career growth. Philip shares a life-changing moment at Growth Con in 2017, stressing the importance of a supportive network for personal development. If you're seeking career inspiration, better communication, or personal growth, this episode is a goldmine. Join us for Philip's transformative insights.

NOTABLE QUOTES
"I’m not sure which I enjoyed more, the event or meeting the people I feel like I’ve known for years." – Philip
"Why wait to be able to get that seat at the table [when you can] create your own table and bring people to that table as well?" – Philip
"The things we have to go through right now actually prepare us for what’s to come." – Philip
"That’s what’s great about mentorship. We got to learn and apply what they teach us without having to go through all of that hardship." – Philip
"I’m helping [engineers] see the bigger picture and to be able to lead themselves and eventually employees into the workforce." – Philip
"When you come in and look presentable, it just makes your customer service that much better." – Philip
“A big thing with communication is giving small updates." – Philip
"So many people know how to talk over text message but nobody wants to get on the phone and talk anymore." – Philip
"Communication is a lost art. When you learn how to communicate you’re probably better than 90% of people out there." – Philip
"The highest-paid profession right now is public speaking." – Philip
"We’ve been having trouble when we’re online. Now we’re hybrid and it’s still kind of weird. Being in person is a lot better. You actually get that engagement from the audience, you see direct feedback versus trying to look at them on a screen." – Philip

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Irvin Retiz:

Hello, what's going on, man? Welcome to the break this day. Hey, irvin, thanks for having me. Man, yeah, man for sure, dude, I know we we met for the first time back in. What was it? April? Yeah, april 29, 30th for the main auto measuring.

Philip Sessions:

Oh yeah, that was awesome getting a meeting in person to meet a lot of other people We've been seeing online Really enjoyed that event as well. I'm not sure which I enjoyed more the event or meeting the people. Yeah, I feel like I'm known for years. Yeah, those were pretty awesome though.

Irvin Retiz:

Yeah, dude, Like whenever you meet everybody there that you know you always talk to online, it's like. It's like the reunion with your long lost family or something right.

Philip Sessions:

Yeah, it's just crazy how we could have such a good connection with so many people that we've never met in person. You know, I don't know about you, but I've never experienced that. Where it's all these people I met and met online and I feel so close to them and then, when you meet in person, yeah, just like family or really long lost friends you hadn't seen in years. Yeah, which was really surprising because you think it'd be the opposite that people you meet in person when you hadn't seen them a while, you see them again, that you had that awesome connection versus just online.

Irvin Retiz:

Yeah, for sure, man, I get, I get that same feeling. But um, anyways, man, first of the audience, who you are and what do you do right now?

Philip Sessions:

So my name is Philip sessions. I Currently work at BMW. I'm actually making a transition at the moment from being a controls engineer there so automating the process of building the cars in the body shop to being the leadership and transformation Specialists at BMW. So I'm gonna make a huge change from engineering to HR. But for those of you that maybe you do follow me on social media if you don't, it's really not that big of a change, because I talk about leadership and mindset all the time on my social media platforms and I'm starting a coaching business.

Philip Sessions:

Well, two coaching businesses one on my own when I'm helping engineers become better leaders, better communicators and build a stronger mindset, and then I'm doing group coaching with a mutual friend, trent Bray, which is hustle habits. My Solo coaching is entrepreneurs and then hustle habits with Trent Bray. We're helping people build better habits. So that's just a little bit about me, also from the Houston Texas area and Then moved over to Greenville, south Carolina, about six years ago, and I jokingly say that I'm stuck over here now that I'm married to a South Carolinian and she's not moving. We literally moved across the street from her parents. He's literally not wanting to move away from home and yeah, so I'm stuck here now, but I love it.

Irvin Retiz:

So that's a huge change, man. So Carolina and Houston, right, like what? Yeah, what a spark. I guess what sparked that idea of you wanting to move.

Philip Sessions:

So I was actually laid off from oil and gas back in 2015 you know oil and gas very cyclical and got laid off and for about three months I didn't have a job and I was probably about two years removed from college, so it didn't have a lot of experience very green engineer and I had applied for an Interview and got through the whole process that Schneider electric there in Houston, one of their locations and they end up going with somebody a little bit more qualified, go figure. But they said they really liked me a lot, wanted to bounce my resume around internally. So I said, hey, why not? I've been without a job for three months, let's figure something out.

Philip Sessions:

And and one came up in Seneca, south Carolina, out near Clemson University, about 15 minutes west of there, and so I went out there, checked it out, said, hey, this sounds like a fun adventure to go out South Carolina. Always expected myself to go back to Texas, go back to the Houston area where my family lives, and then just got stuck out here. That's pretty much that job brought me out here. But I've made some bounces around since then to now working at BMW.

Irvin Retiz:

Yeah, that's nice, that's like. I know a lot of people that have traveled for work, but I mean they eventually just go back, you know. But they come from like the deep south part of Texas, so the pay down there and the housing and everything's very cheap. Oh, yeah, yeah. So everybody leaves to West Texas through Sienna for the refinery stuff like that, you know, because that's what the big money is. But this is eventually come back. Everybody that I know eventually does come back.

Philip Sessions:

Yeah, oh yeah. I do my fair share of travel to not doing as much these days, but it is nice to be in one spot and I do wish I could come back to Texas, but I do really enjoy it over here. It's nice being close to the mountains, being close to non brown water.

Irvin Retiz:

For the beach is very beautiful over here as well, yeah and like Between the viewer to ask me you want the mountains, you want the brown beach, brown water Beach, man at mountains all the time, dude, yeah, all day, every day.

Philip Sessions:

Yeah now, these aren't like the Rockies over here. They're. They're a lot smaller, but they're still just as people, maybe not just as beautiful, but they're beautiful in their own way as well, although I do love the Rockies and love going out there to Colorado and Utah as well.

Irvin Retiz:

Yeah, but I mean I should, I would probably stay there too, you know that's. That's also one reason that I moved to Austin. Now, you know you said I'm a huge sooner have years. But the reason that I moved here to Austin was Because of the nature and the hills and I mean, that's not mountains, right, but it's hills and the lake and it's just Beautiful. Why, you're reminded you compare Austin to Houston, is just Houston's just the biggest fucking city.

Philip Sessions:

Yeah, man, it's just a concrete jungle there in Houston. So, yeah, austin was an awesome move for you and you did it right at the right time, it seems, because everybody's starting to flood in over there too. So you actually that you maybe you planned that. Yeah, it was beautiful city over there. I do like Austin a lot. I visited several times. I could never live there, though. It's just too little for me especially now in South Carolina.

Philip Sessions:

I mean you think, like Texas is conservative, it's more conservative over here. It's really weird. Like in a different way though you really feel like you're in the South when you hear versus in Texas. Even though you are in the South, you're not like in the South. I don't know how to explain it but it's a different kind of Southern Over here versus Texas. But I think it's because the big melting pot, everybody just loves Texas and really Texas it's just its own thing too.

Irvin Retiz:

Yeah, yeah, it gets your man. So. So what was the? I know we're talking about the main on a national mind. What was your biggest take from that?

Philip Sessions:

And my biggest takeaway wasn't really from what was said at the mastermind, necessarily, but as I've been around these events, you know they all talk about making your seat at the table, or jesse is there talks about that, bring it, make your own seat at the table, and it really made me think about make my own table. Why wait to be able to get that seat at the table? Of course I want to. I still want to be able to collaborate with some of those awesome guys that are that are those tables that are your quote unquote better than me, higher than me, but I also want to create my own table and bring people to that table as well. So that was my take away is creating my own table versus bringing up my own chair? What about you?

Irvin Retiz:

man. I wonder what my favorite speaker was was Sean. Well, yeah, I like the fact that he didn't talk about business. He talked about creating your life and then creating A business that supports that. You know, freedom, the lifestyle that you want, and I mean because that's what I'm chasing, man. I'm chasing like to be free, I'm chasing to Do what I want when I want, whether it's working, you know, because I like to work, whether it's, you know, only in a ranch, like when he just bought a couple months ago or whatever. So, like that was my biggest takeaway. And another one was that you don't, you don't really own a company if you can't get away for a month or whatever without without your business losing money.

Philip Sessions:

Yeah.

Philip Sessions:

So yeah, that was a good one too, and I did like how the whole event was really more like spiritual relationship based it was. It was really a breath of fresh air because it wasn't just hey, you've got a hustle and grind and make that money right. It was about actually building relationships and building a life that you want to live in instead of just working and grinding. And yeah, you're right about the whole business versus owner of a business. Yeah, are you? You own your own job or do you actually own a business? That's very true and something for me to look forward to as I build my coaching business. I know you're trying to work on that already with your electrical business.

Irvin Retiz:

Yeah, for sure, and I think of that all the time and it's just like man, like Like right now I just got home prior to starting, like 30 minutes or so, and I'm just like, do you like? I haven't even got my second work got done, and you know, it's just so overwhelmed with all this projects going on and it's like, dude, I can't wait to scale and then grow and just bring more guys in, right, and I get more shit.

Philip Sessions:

Well, it'll happen, man. And that's the thing, the things we have to go through right now and actually prepare us for what's to come. I was actually did a video on this and we always hear that question of, like you know these famous people, what would you tell your 20 year old self? Right, what would you tell them To me if I got the information, say, when I'm successful and I'm 40 years old and I passed that down to my 20 year old self, that information that will just set me off to be a millionaire, right then, and there it's like winning the lottery.

Philip Sessions:

My mind is not prepared for all those hardships. But because of having those hardships, those hard times over those 20 years of two decades, I'm ready for the good times. I'm prepared mentally for that, whereas if you got that information, you got the I guess you know knowledge, lottery, so to say you really not prepared for it, you really just squander it like somebody who wins the actual lottery. I think us having to go through these hard times right now is preparing us for the harder times, but also preparing us for whenever somebody takes over and they start hitting those hard times. We actually tell them hey, this what you need to do instead of why? Learned it, but I don't have the life experience behind it.

Irvin Retiz:

Yeah, we have to take those hits early on, right away. Yeah, I'm not like, I'm not gonna say it's gonna get easy later on, but it'll get easier because you already went through these hot yeah in the beginning. Yeah, I think about a lot. Yeah, and exactly.

Philip Sessions:

And you just teach the next person that you bring in is you've already been to those hardships, you help them get through it that much quicker. That's what's great about having mentorship and being in these groups like we are. We get to learn from these guys In apply that knowledge that they teach us without having to go through all of that hardship. Some of it you're just gonna have to do no matter what, but some of it we can Circumvent because we learn from them.

Irvin Retiz:

Yeah and and so, like now that you're saying this, I was thinking, like I was saying earlier, we were one of the businesses that you're creating is to help engineers. So since, since I mean you're, you're obviously teaching them shit and coaching them through shit that you already went through, right. So it's like what exactly are you like helping them? Because you're talking to a friend of mine, right, you're helping a friend of mine, yeah, yeah, we've talked a little bit. He's a, he's still trying to get through some stuff.

Philip Sessions:

We have to try to help them a little bit there. But they've been also really busy with work so I don't talk too much, yeah, but basically just depends really on the person. A lot of engineers struggle with communication. So that's a really a first step. We talk about then also mindset, because as engineers we know how to solve a problem, we know how to see that there's a problem and go fix that problem, but we get ingrained just looking into this one problem. We can't look at the big picture.

Philip Sessions:

So I teach engineers how to communicate effectively because speaking engineer engineer All day long, but sometimes even then I've had instances where one engineer, one programmer, can't speak to another and I've had a bridge, that gap.

Philip Sessions:

So helping bridge the gaps there in the communication between engineers or programmers, and also To HR people, to business owners, but then the broad spectrum to, because as engineers they're so smart and they have all these products that they could bring to market but they can't because they can't communicate and they can't look at the bigger picture. So I'm helping them see that bigger picture and to be able to lead themselves and eventually employees into that workforce, because that's a big part of creating the business, that's a big part of creating the business is going to lead others by example and through actions and and whatever else is needed within each individual business. So that's why I do is really help teach leadership skills, forty, fortify their mindset, because we know, with entrepreneurship you get a lot of knows, a lot of things that you don't want to do yourself to do, and so teaching them that and teaching them how to communicate and think of the bigger picture.

Irvin Retiz:

So like a problem or main problem they have, is they just like stick to there, like they're just like in. They just focus on what they're doing, like day to day, and they don't. That's all like that. That's all they do pretty much.

Philip Sessions:

Yeah, yeah, you know, engineers are very good problem solvers. So if you give them a problem, they can go solve that. But if you ask them to take a look at a grand, the grand picture of A project, they have a lot, a really hard time doing that and they have a hard time thinking about Everything as a whole. So for them it's a lot easier for them just to stick in their comfort zone and just focus on one problem at a time. And I've worked on projects with people where I've had to lead the project, being a contractor coming in this is prior to BMW Because some of their programmers they can only focus on one problem at a time.

Philip Sessions:

They couldn't think about hey, we have all these other things going on, we have deadlines, we need to work with the customer, talk with them, figure out what's next, what's coming down the road. All they could focus on was that one thing. So I had to lead the project because the these programmers could only focus on the one thing, which is a bad thing, and you know, as being a business owner Trying to run your electrical jobs, you've got multiple jobs.

Philip Sessions:

You can't focus on one job because you've got several at one time, and so you have to be able to bounce between job and to job. And Some of these engineers, you know they do have separate projects that they work on, but a lot of times they get stuck and ingrained in one project and then they let the other ones go by the wayside, and so that's what I'm trying to help them understand is that, hey, there's more than this one problem to solve, and you can solve that problem While still looking at the bigger picture.

Irvin Retiz:

So that's like also kind of the problem that that is going around in the trades where, well, mainly like these smaller companies Like the, the technicians like that, that's all they do is just Like their crap right, like the fix whatever electrical problem they're gonna fix, or they go and install whatever they got. It saw and you know that's it. Like they, they don't, they can't talk to the homeowners, they can't. They can't talk to the contractors. So that's when the like the business owner or the one that's in charge, that's when they come in and they have to, you know, communicate with, you know, the homeowner or this contractor and they have to lead everybody else, because all these technicians like they don't and and it's like they don't know how to do it and it's like they don't want to either. Yeah, yeah, that's a little bit of both of that.

Philip Sessions:

Yeah, I could. I could see that with the trades. You know, it's like you go in there and sometimes it's a matter not being able to explain what you did. You know somebody will ask, hey, well, what exactly was the problem with my light switch? Right, it was a kept tripping the breaker or something. And so like, oh well, yeah, I fixed it. Okay, well, what did you do? And it's like, well, if the it was actually hitting the ground wire, the ground was loose and that's what kept tripping the breaker.

Philip Sessions:

But they can't explain that and of course, the customer might not understand that completely, but be able to explain that. And then also, looking at the big picture as well, it might be more than the light switch. You need to look at all of the wiring and then you can almost upsell the customer. And it's like, hey, I noticed while fixing this problem, I noticed this is this Something you like you would like us to look at, and I was some of this wiring is is faulty. Would you like us to take a look at that? But some technicians as well just want to stay and I fix the problem, go on to the next thing and try to look at a bigger picture and saying, hey, there's more here we can do. Yeah, dude, which is just this is want to get out of there. Yeah, exactly so, yeah, I never thought about that being a problem. The, the, you know trades industry as well, but that makes a lot of sense. I could see that.

Irvin Retiz:

Yeah, and I actually had, um, I was in a house I think it was yesterday there was a plumber and then he was doing like something with gas at the house and this guy's like a man, you know, I'm ready to go home, and this and that and and like he was just kind of like in a hurry to leave and Huh and and and it's like he didn't really want to work, but like he knew like he has to work and he had finished and then he left and the war so there. And then he came back that afternoon and then I was like, dude, you're back already. I'm like, oh yeah, man, the boss told me that I had to come and change this valve. You know, he told me that I was, you know, down the street and I just had to come. But that, fuck it, I'm here and I'm like that.

Philip Sessions:

That's crazy and someone just want to get paid those hours. But then that's kind of crazy too, because you think he'd want to keep working because he's paid by the hour. But maybe he's not, maybe it's by the job. But it is interesting to see how different people's work ethics are.

Irvin Retiz:

Yeah, and when you were saying, like lack of communication, like I just remember to the day before that he was supposed to fix it, but I believe he needed help to like turn on the the valve and Check good pressure and all this shit, and he told me he's like oh man, I had to tell the homeowner that you know that I'm gonna be back tomorrow, that I can't fix it. It's like, oh fuck, fuck it. He's just left. He didn't even tell the guy anything, you know man.

Irvin Retiz:

I was like what the fuck? He just like took off dude. And I told my guy. I was like, oh, like this guy just left like he didn't even tell the guy anything and then, like five minutes later, do the homeowner comes out of his room and he's like it's a gas fix. He's like the the, the problem leave. And I was like, yeah, he's just left, like five minutes ago and he's like, oh man, it's like well, I'll talk to the project manager. I'm like shit, dude, it's like that. That like a communication dude, is like shit.

Philip Sessions:

Yeah, yeah need to have that communication. That's. That's something for the trades to. Then you look at Communication skills, because that's an important thing, and I know there's several different business owners that actually have their Employees, that are in the trades, that actually have them dress up and look a little nicer when they engage with the customers, because I mean, you get really dirty, especially depending on the job, and look really sloppy. But when you come in and look presentable, it just makes your customer service that much better. Plus, having the technician be able to communicate Properly well, that really just helps your customer service. And then I mean, as you know, if your customer service is really well, if you happen to be running behind or something goes on, emergency comes up. You can talk with them and let them know like, hey, this was going on, and a lot of times they're they're pretty forgiving unless they also have some kind of emergency. But that's what communication does and yeah, it's super important. I don't know why people don't focus on that more. It's just being scared.

Irvin Retiz:

Yeah, yeah, and I guess, like they weren't, they weren't taught that too, you know. So that's, when you come in and you teach them like yo, you got to do this shit too, because you can't just Work with work and just focus on this like small part of a bigger picture. Right, like that's we can one guys like you come in and coach them where they have to step back and communicate and see everything that's going on around them too.

Philip Sessions:

Yeah, exactly, and a big thing with that communication, just giving small updates. You don't have to sit here and tell them exactly what you did, how many hours you worked on this, or well, maybe it was minutes, maybe you didn't really take that long, but just tell them hey, I worked on this valve, I'm having an issue getting it to open and close, whatever may went on with it, or I need To get some more pipe because I ran out. I'm gonna go back and I'll be back tomorrow. Hey, there you go.

Philip Sessions:

You give them a little update. Took, you know, more than 10 or 15 seconds and you're on the way and they're like okay, thank you for letting me know. The simple as that. I mean, of course, the case to get pissed off at you is Well, that is what it is at this point, I mean obviously don't want to say that, but you let them know and said I mean you just have to try and handle however they they decide to react. But most people, I would think, would be Pretty positive, pretty, you know, not get mad at you about anything, but you never know, people are different.

Irvin Retiz:

Yeah, yeah, dude, and more like. The more that I talked to you know guys like you or guys like an in our tae pecs, you know, like all these entrepreneurs like, the most, the more I realized that there's a lag in not just the service or the construction industry that I'm in, right, but Like any industry, right. Like you go to the store, you go to a restaurant, you go to a hotel, you use, you see employees, whatever, whatever kind of employees that they are, that they lack something and you like you can notice it and you're just like dude, like yeah, you're so like like not fully Focused on what you're doing.

Philip Sessions:

It's this man, it's your phone. The phone is what gets in the way. So many people know how to talk Well somewhat, over text message. Nobody wants to get on the phone and talk anymore. Nobody knows how to actually have that Human to human communication, or even on the cell phone itself talking. So many people just want to text you and so many things get lost in communication there and Technology.

Philip Sessions:

Phones are amazing things but because of that it's made people lazy. They would rather just text you something real quick and then move on. Is we're also about immediate gratification and for also very lack of attention. We can't, we have no Attention spans anymore. We can't focus on anything for any length of time, which is so sad and a huge part of communication as well. Like us getting here on this, this call, if we're not focus on another. Like you try to talk to me. Know, let me send this text. Real quick question I would you. Would you say urban, I've got a, then re ask you. Now we're wasting all this time because you gotta re ask me the question and then hope that should pay attention so that I can answer it. Communication is a lost art. So really you learn how to communicate you, probably better than ninety percent of people out there.

Philip Sessions:

So it's a good thing for you if you try to start your own business, or you try to get a job somewhere, or whatever you try to do. You can communicate. You mean ninety percent Better than everybody else. You gonna be leaps and bounds ahead of the competition.

Irvin Retiz:

Yeah, dude, and that's like the commute, the community communication, your practice communication, like you just need more people, you know, and If you need more people you can Ultimately do more business. Like that, yeah, like that communication is huge, man, when you, when you were saying, when you were saying that right now, I actually thought about, like this is show I don't know if you heard of it that I've been watching this Undercover billionaire I need to buy the second season.

Philip Sessions:

I really want to watch it because the grant card on the first episode I've got to buy it. Was that pretty good?

Irvin Retiz:

oh yeah, I did that. You see the whole the first season, or not?

Philip Sessions:

I've seen the first one. It's been a while.

Irvin Retiz:

Yes, I'm a halfway through the first. The first one, the grasslands, and I was. I joined the second one first. I watched the whole second one and that's what it is. It is just communication. I mean these guys that they go to different city, and that's how they started communicate, you know they don't and be Anybody that they can find and that's how they ultimately Work on creating this main business, right, but that's what it is just communicating with anybody around you, anybody that you mean.

Philip Sessions:

Yeah, yeah the highest paid profession right now per hour is public speaking Communication yeah people are making a hundred thousand dollars a year. Andy and ed, my, let me let make like a hundred thousand dollars, not a year. A speaking engagement, forty five minutes an hour, paid a hundred thousand dollars. Now, these are like extreme examples, but a lot of people make five or ten thousand dollars in a single hour from a speaking engagement. Yes, crazy is crazy to think.

Philip Sessions:

But it's communication. Clearly it's important for people have. People need to learn that more and so feel I try to learn communication. One way is get on calls like this, talking with people. Get on phone calls. You can do videos on social media. You already there, so why not just shoot a quick video, do a story if you don't want to stay in there a long time. But as far as a more formal way, I would suggest toasters is very cheap to do that, to go through toasters. So toasters international dot org. It's a. There's tons of clubs that are all over the world. You can get in one of those and get involved in that community, that club, and learn how to do public speaking.

Irvin Retiz:

Learn, just learn how to communicate and, like I said, you're gonna be way farther ahead if you do those things yeah, I actually looked into that, but whenever I was cuz they do it really like Tuesday and Austin or whatever, but it was a, it was to zoom and I went on on one of the calls and I was just listening and I don't know like the way they were like acting on there. It was like a competition or something and they were, but they were acting and there was like three people and they were. They each like created a script and they just acted in like different personality and it was just like a complete script and then and then, after they're done, they just shut up and then the judge or the teacher, whatever is like okay, well, thank you, and everybody just sounds like clapping or something like that. It was so weird.

Philip Sessions:

Yeah, that's a little different. We've done that is usually have like a impromptu part, so it's like your table topics in one time. If you watch the, the comedy show, whose line is it anyway? But basically you get a word and only like one person knows, like the word or category, and then, based on what that, how that one person reacts, the other people have to start interacting with that. So, say, I know that, like like I'm trying to buy a car, but I crashed this car, the other car that I went and did a test drive on from your car lot, and but you don't know what I'm. My scenario is what I'm trying to do, so I'm acting out this scenario and you're just trying to react to that. So that Kind of sounds like that. Like that is a lot of times it's like just a random question and then you have like one or two minutes to answer that so impromptu question there.

Philip Sessions:

And then there's prepared speeches, usually three nights, about five to seven minutes, and so you prepare a speech ahead of time and you get evaluated on that speech in the end, which the valuation is about two to three minutes, which helps you with effective listening. Right, guys? Another thing we don't know how to do listen effectively either. So it's a great way to learn and push yourself to become better at communicating and listening effectively. And there's other roles you can learn about leadership as well. So the one you're talking about like, I think, for thank you for, for speaking or whatever that's probably the toast master of the day, so they run the meeting. So you learn a lot about being a leader as well. So it's a great way and I think it's Like a hundred and twenty bucks a year tops and you pay like you buy a buy annually, and so it's really cheap for a lot of good content that you can learn from it.

Philip Sessions:

I would check out another club if you have that experience you really like it, or go back and check out again. But you can try different clubs and different clubs do different things. I know One of the guys in my current club. He's actually joining a second one or probably third one for him and it's actually humorous only so they're only going to do funny speeches in that club. Just whatever floats your boat, right, but just just trying to push yourself in different ways.

Irvin Retiz:

Yeah, yeah, cuz I mean, yeah, I guess, like everybody has no ways of doing things, and I was, I was listening to to it for a couple, like a good thirty minutes at least, but I don't know, man, like I just thought, like it wasn't, it wasn't my kind of thing, you know? Yeah, what are you?

Philip Sessions:

challenging on on zoom as well. We've been having a trouble when we're online. Now we're hybrid and still kind of weird. Being in person is a lot better. You actually get that engagement from the audience, you see that direct feedback, versus Trying to look at them on a screen. You're not exactly seeing their body language or anything, so it's a lot better being in person so you find one person. I would suggest that as well.

Irvin Retiz:

Yeah I'm gonna check it out because I'm gonna practice on. Everybody does general.

Philip Sessions:

Yeah, we all do as I'm involved in toasters as well, really enjoy it, and I just try to keep leading in that I'm actually president this year of our club, so nice as well.

Irvin Retiz:

Yeah, that's awesome dude. So what are, like, what are your goals or what do you, guy, planned for for later on this year with everything that you're doing, your businesses?

Philip Sessions:

So, as always, try to pick up more clients to help out more people, of course, but one of the things as far as building that table, I'm looking at doing my own event and Working on that at the moment, so try to finalize that location and time and everything. But that's something I'm gonna do down the road here and September timeframe is what I'm looking at. I'm working on getting on stages as well to speak, so podcast stages as well as like actual in-person live events, which one of those will be the ones that I'm gonna create. And biggest thing for me is my child. My little girl is gonna be coming in November, so really excited about that and so just pushing forward on all these other goals that I have and try to get those start it before she comes and Disrupts all my schedule for their private rest.

Philip Sessions:

But really good for looking forward to that the most out of everything.

Irvin Retiz:

Yeah, that's awesome dude. It's exciting stuff, man. Congrats. Thanks, I appreciate it. Yeah, dude, for sure. So I'm gonna ask you a last-hand question, right? But before I do, before I do, just let everybody know where they can find your mind, everything you're doing.

Philip Sessions:

Yeah, best place find me is on Instagram or Facebook At Philip sessions, that's with one L, you'll probably find me. Or you can listen to my podcast as well, which is entrepreneurs.

Irvin Retiz:

So you rebranded it, or you just yeah, I did rebrand my podcast.

Philip Sessions:

I was trying to get away from the health and fitness stuff with the healthy living sessions, so I rebranded to entrepreneurs. Oh yeah, that's a pretty good idea.

Irvin Retiz:

I'm gonna go ahead and rebrand it to entrepreneurs. Play on entrepreneur and engineer. That's awesome, dude. I'm gonna link it in the show notes. All right? Awesome, yeah, man.

Philip Sessions:

So the last question I have is what do you consider your breakthrough moment? My breakthrough moment, man? I? That's. That's tough to really pinpoint. One thing I would say, one that was really changed my life. There's probably two different events.

Philip Sessions:

I went to growth con to back in 2017 or something like that I think are 16 in Las Vegas, and that really started set me on the path to do the, the entrepreneur life right, the self-development life.

Philip Sessions:

That really started getting me there really more interested in being more intentional with it. But then growth con three actually is a funny same, same event, same guy. But growth con three was where I met one of our friends to Bogdan, and he actually introduced me to Arte and I had kind of seen a little bit about it but I didn't know much. And then he was there and he's wearing Arte hat and I asked him about it and I really feel like that changed my life because I met so many awesome people like you. That really helped me Realize that I'm not the only one out there that thinks this way. I'm not the only one that's trying to be better and the most elite version of myself. So I would say probably that would be the more pivotal moment, but both of those really just helped me set off on the that trajectory that I'm on now and just continuing to Improve myself and refine my craft day after day.

Irvin Retiz:

Yeah, dude, that was powerful man because, like before these groups too it's like you feel like you're alone, yeah, like you're the only one, right, like you're the only one that thinks like this. Then you get around other like-minded individuals and you're like holy shit, dude, these are my people.

Philip Sessions:

Yeah, well, then you get around all these people and you're like I'm not, I'm nothing man, I'm not doing anything. I haven't been on this path at all compared to these people, so it's just crazy, but it's. It's an awesome environment to be around. Try. You can't be the smartest man in the room. You can't be the best man either. You gotta be around people that are better than you, so you keep leveling up.

Irvin Retiz:

Yeah, that's awesome dude, you know, I'm glad I met you through the RT.

Philip Sessions:

Yeah, man, I'm glad we met as well.

Irvin Retiz:

Yeah, man, for sure Cool man. So yeah, thanks for thanks for coming on the break to a study man. I enjoyed that talk, of course Thanks for having me.

Philip Sessions:

for sure, man, you have a good one, you too.

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