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Fear-Driven Divorce: Unpacking Client Anxieties

Tracy Callahan and Debra Doak Season 1 Episode 179

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Ever wondered what's truly driving the most difficult divorce cases? Fear might be the hidden force behind excessive legal fees, ongoing conflicts, and harmful decisions that impact families for years to come.

The fears inventory is a powerful but often overlooked tool in the divorce coach's arsenal. As divorce coaches, when we help clients identify and address their deepest concerns—about conflict, finances, and parenting—we transform their ability to navigate the process. Fear doesn't always announce itself clearly. Instead, it manifests as controlling behavior, conflict escalation, perfectionism, or complete shutdown. Most tellingly, it appears as decision paralysis, where clients believe they're being strategic when their nervous system has actually thrown them into fight-flight-freeze mode.

Through techniques like validation, exploring emotional undercurrents, using a future self lens, externalizing fear, and building body awareness, coaches can help clients move from fear-based to values-based decision making. This isn't about eliminating fear entirely—it's about putting it in the backseat so it's not driving the divorce process. When we help clients distinguish between what they can and cannot control, we reconnect them with their agency during a time when helplessness often takes over.

The real magic happens when clients can align their decisions with their values instead of their fears. This transformation builds not just a better divorce outcome but long-term emotional resilience that serves clients well beyond the signing of final papers. Are you helping your clients identify what's keeping them up at night? If not, you might be missing the most powerful intervention available in your coaching toolkit. Join us to discover how addressing fear changes everything in the divorce coaching journey.

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How Fear Manifests in Divorce

Creating a Client Fears Inventory

Speaker 1

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Speaker 2

And I'm Tracy, and today we're diving into a powerful tool that every divorce coach should have in their toolbox the fears inventory.

Speaker 1

I just like to say that the fears. You're trying to make it sound like a spooky. Stephen. What's his name? Stephen King novel. Right, yeah, yeah, but here's what we know. Fear is one of the most common and yet most underestimated drivers of cost and conflict in the divorce process, and if we, as coaches, don't help our clients unpack and understand their fears, that's going to hijack the entire situation here.

Speaker 2

Yeah, so we're going to talk about what fear really looks like in divorce, right, how to identify it with your clients and why doing so can completely change their experience and their outcome.

Speaker 1

Yes.

Speaker 2

Outcome right Outcomes, we're all about outcomes.

Coaching Through Fear Effectively

Speaker 1

So why does addressing fear with clients make such a difference? So we're going to go back to one of our standard favorite stock sayings, and that is that fears are questions waiting to be answered. Yes, stock sayings, and that is that fears are questions waiting to be answered. When clients lack information or they lack a plan, they can react from a place of fear. Nobody likes uncertainty. We've talked about that several times on this podcast. Okay, so that's what we're going to dig in today. So grab your notepad or just listen in.

Speaker 2

We are going to cover a ton of ground, yeah, so let's just start with the basics. Divorce is inherently a fear-based experience, right? One is dismantling a life, sometimes one that's been built over decades, and walking into an unknown future. That, as Debra, you just said, triggers all kinds of uncertainty fear of loss, fear of failure, fear of being alone, fear of losing control. I can go on and on and on. As humans, human beings we really dislike uncertainty, and it can certainly create some big obstacles to problem solving or getting to resolution.

Speaker 1

Exactly, and I think what is important for us to remember as coaches is that fear doesn't always show up as someone saying I'm afraid.

Speaker 2

I wish it was that simple, right, Right right.

Speaker 1

It shows up in behavior. This is where we are using our perception framework to observe. It shows up as escalating conflict, as being controlling, stonewalling, perfectionism, even complete shutdown.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and my favorite decision paralysis. And it is a huge one, right, when clients get stuck because their fear is running the show and they don't even know it, they think they're just being cautious or strategic, when really their nervous system is in a state of high alert, almost literally paralyzing them.

Speaker 1

Yeah, paralyzing, it's the freeze response, right yeah. So why do we want to talk about doing a fears inventory with our clients? Because we'd want to help them name what they're afraid of, just like being able to name our emotions or that affect labeling is part of emotional intelligence and self-awareness and self-management. Understanding the fears means if they can name it, we can work with it, and until they do name it and figure out a plan to deal with it. It's going to influence every single choice they make.

Speaker 2

Yeah. So let's kind of break down how fears show up in some of the most common areas. We coach around as divorce coaches and we're going to start with my all-time favorite conflict Conflict right Conflict.

Speaker 1

So, yeah, so many of our clients are terrified of conflict. They've either spent years avoiding it or they've been so immersed in it that they're just effing exhausted by it. And so then that fear of conflict can lead them to make decisions that are just I just want to keep the peace. They might give up some financial stuff or give up some parenting time or some parenting rights or some other things just to avoid a fight. Yeah.

Speaker 2

Or on the flip side, right fear can also manifest as aggression. I had a client who came in hot every single session, furious with her acts combative about the process. Her acts combative about the process. But once we sort of did a fears inventory it came out that she was actually terrified of being seen as a bad mother. That fear was showing up as anger, but it was really about her identity and her self-worth.

Speaker 1

Big identity threats happening in divorce Big, yeah. So that's a really powerful example of how that shows up. So, in addition to conflict, the other thing we need to talk about is cost. Financial fear is huge in divorce. For many clients this might be the first time they're facing either financial independence and taking care of everything on their own, or financial instability or uncertainty. So they're really worried and hear the word worried as fear. Worried about legal fees, living expenses, retirement, sometimes even groceries and ask for their car.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and that fear can lead to scarcity thinking. Clients may stay in these unhealthy negotiations or cling to every asset without thinking long-term, simply because they are afraid there won't be enough.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, all right. So conflict cost. And then we can't walk away without talking about kids, kids. So much fear around parenting, custody, co-parenting. This one runs really deep, deep. What do clients worry about? They worry about losing time with their children, losing influence over their children, damaging their kids' emotional health, or being replaced by a new partner or step-parent. Yikes, yikes.

Speaker 2

Back to the identity threats right, Yep, Yep. I had a client who insisted on sole custody and refused to even consider a shared schedule when we were actually able to unpack it. The fear was that her kids would bond more with their dad's new partner than with her. It had nothing to do with her ex's parenting ability. It was all of this fear of being irrelevant or being diminished.

Speaker 1

So common, yeah, and so sad. Diminished. So common, yeah, and so sad, so sad. So conflict, cost and kids these are the big areas where we see people have fear. So let's move on now and talk really about how to actually do a fears inventory with a client. This does not have to be a formal checklist or a PDF you send them, although that can be helpful. It can be as simple as asking open-ended questions and then really truly listening for the fear underneath the words.

Speaker 2

Yeah, so there's intentionality here in the work that we do. Some of my go-to questions when I'm assessing or creating these sort of fears inventory is what's keeping you up at night right now? What's the worst case scenario? You're imagining what would happen if that fear came true?

Speaker 1

Yes, yes, great starter place. What then?

Speaker 1

That's the question I say so, I ask the question okay, you're afraid he'll bond more with mom's new partner? What then? And then we dive deeper and deeper into that fear until we get to the root, to it, and it's so important for us to normalize these fears that our clients are expressing. Right, I might say something like it totally makes sense. You'd be afraid of that, or a lot of people feel like that at this stage. We want to help them reduce the shame about feeling afraid so that we can open that door to deeper exploration.

Speaker 2

Absolutely, and I think it's really important for us to remember that not all fears are rational, but they are absolutely real to that client. Your job isn't to talk them out of their fear. This isn't like standing in the line for the roller coaster. It's to help them look at it, understand it and make choices in spite of it, not because of it.

Building Long-Term Emotional Resilience

Speaker 1

Exactly, we are working to help shift our clients from a fear-based mindset to a values-based mindset. So fear says protect yourself at all costs. Values say act in alignment with who you want to be. That's the movement we're aiming for.

Speaker 2

Yeah that's a big shift. So let's really dive into the coaching side of this, because that's where the magic happens. Right Once we help a client recognize their fear, we've got to be ready to support them through it in a meaningful, effective and trauma-informed way. And I'll start by saying this when fear shows up, your first job isn't to fix it.

Speaker 2

Sorry, everyone Put the superhero cape away. Yeah, yeah, it's to hold space for it. That means slowing down. It means letting the client talk, letting them process and letting them feel safe enough to explore what that fear is really about. Sometimes that fear is layered. Maybe it's not just a fear of losing parenting time. It's a deeper fear of losing their identity as a parent or not being needed anymore. So one of my go-to strategies is always to start with validation. I might say something like it makes total sense that you feel that way, or anyone in your situation would probably be afraid too.

Speaker 1

That simple act of normalizing their fear does two things One, it reduces shame and two, it builds yes absolutely, and that goes hand in hand, really, with something that we talk about all the time and that's don't coach the content, coach the emotion, start to jump into logistics, right To jump into the business side of the divorce, but what we want to do is pause and ask what's underneath that. Is it about financial instability? Is it about safety? Is it about fear of starting over? Like there is a layer underneath there that we are obligated to explore.

Speaker 2

Well, because the feeling's gonna impact the thinking.

Speaker 1

Exactly exactly. So. We want to identify the emotional layer that is underneath. My ex is trying to screw me out of the house. There's emotion under there, so we wanna identify it, we wanna explore it. One tool that we can use is something that's called a future self lens right. Sometimes we call this the magic wand. Imagine it's a year from now. You've made it through this process. You're stable, grounded and moving forward. What would your future self say to you about this fear you're facing right now? Our goal here is to help kind of just shift the perspective, to reframe it a little bit, and help them step out of panic mode and back into that perspective. What does our friend William Ury call it? We're going to go to the balcony here.

Speaker 2

Go to the balcony and I love, I love a reframe.

Speaker 1

So, powerful.

Speaker 2

So another technique I use a lot is called externalizing that fear. Right, it's sort of based in narrative therapy and it helps the client separate themselves from their fear instead of being fused with it. So I'll literally say let's give this fear a name. Let's imagine it's sitting next to you. What would it say? What does it want, what does it believe to be true? And then I'll ask is it always right? Does it speak the whole truth? This allows the clients, sort of in this reality basis, to start challenging that fear without feeling like they are wrong for having it. Because, again, the goal isn't to get rid of the fear, it is to put it in the backseat, so it's not driving the car.

Speaker 1

Yes, yes, and when we talk about giving clients skills that they'll take with them, this fear awareness is one of those, not just in the divorce process, but for life, because fear doesn't go away after the papers are signed. It's going to show up when they start dating again. It's going to show up when their kids become teenagers. It's going to show up in a job transition and new relationships. So we are not just here coaching for the short term. He's trying to screw me out of the house, or that's not it. I don't think I can buy groceries. We're helping them build long-term emotional resilience. Yeah.

Speaker 2

Another practical technique I use is scaling. So I used to do this all the time when we worked in healthcare. Right, we used to pain, I mean. So on a scale of one to 10, right, how strong is that fear right now? How strong, how weak, where is it? And once they've answered, I'll ask what would make it drop by even one point? Right? So this visualization, this being able to put it in some kind of process where they can objectively start looking at it, it's, it's information, but it's also setting a boundary. Sometimes it's breathing, sometimes it's giving a time. That question helps shift them into solution, focused thinking without invalidating their fear. Right, so they're thinking, not necessarily focused so much on the fear, but what can they do to reduce that fear? It moves us away from the problem and into solution.

Speaker 1

Right, exactly One definition I've heard of courage is feeling the fear and doing it anyway, and so that's this resilience we're trying to work on. I think we also can help them become body aware. Right, fear is an emotional experience. It's also a physiological experience, it lives in the body. So we can ask where do you feel this fear physically? What does it feel like? And you might hear answers like it's a knot in my stomach or tension in my chest or shallow breathing. Just naming this physical sensation can help them reconnect with that present moment, what I'm doing right now, and then we can talk with them about breath work, grounding exercises, mindfulness to regulate that nervous system, before we go back to discussing strategy.

Final Thoughts and Call to Action

Speaker 2

Absolutely. It's one of the things we always talk about in preparing for negotiations. You can't do strategy unless you're in this place, right? And I know all about the physicality I have Chronic TMJ. It kills me, all right. So here's another one, right? This is really a focus on language. Listen carefully to how your clients talk about fear, the words they use. Do they use absolutes like always, never, forever? Do they catastrophize, right? This can give us an opening to gently challenge those narratives saying something like what if we played with the idea that this isn't forever? Or what if this is just a season? Helping clients reframe their language is a subtle but absolutely powerful way to also help them regain some of that control.

Speaker 1

Right, right, and speaking of control, one of the best things we can do for clients is help them distinguish between what they can control and what they can't. Fear thrives on uncertainty, and when clients feel helpless, fear comes running in to take over. So we want to talk with our clients. What is with locus of control? What is within your control right now? It could be how they respond to an email, how they care for themselves, who they choose to include in their support team. Reconnecting with that sense of agency that, while they can't control everything, they can control some things, is huge.

Speaker 2

Yeah, huge, huge it really is, and I just want to encourage divorce coaches not to be afraid of fear. Have our own fear about our client's fear right. Sometimes new coaches think I'm not a therapist, I can't go there, and that is absolutely true. We are not therapists, but this is well within our scope as divorce coaches. We're not diagnosing or treating. We're holding space. We're asking powerful questions. We're helping clients align their decisions with their values instead of their fear. That is the essence of what we do.

Speaker 1

Beautiful, helping them align their decisions with values instead of fear, I love it. So if you're a coach and you're listening and wondering, am I doing enough to address my clients' fears? This is your invitation, invitation Go deeper, ask the uncomfortable questions, hold space for the messy emotions, don't just rush to strategy. The messy middle, this feeling, these fears, this is where transformation happens right. And so why does this matter? Why are we spending an entire episode talking about fear? Because fear is often the hidden driver of everything that goes sideways in divorce.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and when we don't address it, your client cannot access their best thinking, they cannot communicate clearly, they can't negotiate purposefully, intentionally, fairly or make values-based decisions.

Speaker 1

Right. But when you do address it, when you spend time here without rushing, when you take time to identify and understand those fears, you empower your client to move forward with our two favorite words clarity and confidence. Well, they're not our two.

Speaker 2

We have lots, but we have lots of fears.

Speaker 1

This is on the list. Clarity and confidence this is what we want for them.

Speaker 2

Yeah, the two Cs. So divorce coaches, if you take one thing from today's episode, let it be this Don't skip the fears inventory.

Speaker 1

It's not a bonus, it is a foundational part of the work that we do it is, and if you stuck around all the way to the end here, we hope we gave you some insight into just how powerful this work can be. If you're listening and you're not certified as a divorce coach, let's talk. We have two new cohorts starting the week of October 12th, right for the US and Canada. We would love to talk with you about up-leveling your skills here to help your clients deal with this messy piece that really causes divorce to go off the rails.

Speaker 2

Absolutely. And if you are a divorce coach who hasn't yet made the fears inventory part of your intake or a part of the early sessions you do, no time like the present. This is time to start. Your clients will thank you for it, whether they realize it or not, right?

Speaker 1

Yes, yes, all right. Well, thank you so much for listening to Tracy and I talk today about Divorce Coaches Academy and our divorce coaching community and how we can do a better job for our clients, and if you found today's episode helpful, we would love it if you would subscribe, leave a review, share it with a colleague or a friend. Let's get the word out about how addressing fears makes such a huge difference.

Speaker 2

Yes, until next time. Everyone, keep doing the work that matters.