Interconnectedness

Jaya and ashe dig into some questions of scale, and how the ways we are connected to each other - and belong to each other - on a small scale, are the same as how we are held by the name of collective, country, and resident of the planet.

That the pushes and pulls in a community ripple and resonate all over, and when nations engage in conflict across the globe, we know the tension in our bodies at the PTA meeting.

This is the fifth of six parts in a series called First Fire. Each episode in this series is a small part of one longer conversation. 

We’re talkin’ about how we’re all connected and we hope you enjoy. 

Music from this episode is called Disque Magique by Dusty Decks.
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In·ter·con·nect·ed·ness
/ˌin(t)ərkəˈnektədnəs/
Noun
noun: interconnectedness; noun: inter-connectedness

1. the state of being connected with each other.
2. "the interconnectedness of all things in the universe"

Inter-
Middle English: from Old French enterrer, based on Latin in- ‘into’ + terra ‘earth’.

Connect
late Middle English (in the sense ‘be united physically’; rare before the 18th century): from Latin connectere, from con- ‘together’ + nectere ‘bind’.

(Definitions from Oxford Languages).

Transcript

ashe: 0:00

I know that people are in space right now that you know, there's a lot of violence right now. It's on my mind. I think I'm not really doing news about it, but personally people are in my life talking about. How what's going on in Ukraine and stuff is impacting. I know that we're not SU you don't talk a whole lot about politics necessarily, but, um, there is something about the connection of us all, um, that I think feeling that unrest, I think is just, it's just in the air for me. I think it's adding to my questions around my own conflict. interpersonally, maybe too where it's holding power and where do we have permission to let go. Of things and to, yeah. I don't know. I think that's all, it's all, it feels very much the same to me. Like

jaya: 0:49

it's connected. Yeah. Yeah.

ashe: 0:52

Anyway,

jaya: 0:55

I think it's real that we all are. We're in the same living system on the earth sharing the same oxygen, nitrogen and carbon cycling through that Guatam Buddha breathe and ate and shat and you know, as well as anybody else. Um, and we're, you know, maybe another way to think about it is maybe we're all sitting on top of the same collective unconscious mind in that, or on that, or whatever way. As well as if there's something like collective conscious, like any way, the layers of minds that seem to be shared where there's the similar archetypes around the world and without having met anybody there that is there. Um, it's kind of like sometimes I have this image of as if what we really are is this giant jelly, like jellyfish jelly. Um, and we're usually in this little shack on top of the jellyfish, and we think that we're driving the jellyfish, you know, we're like the jellyfish is meme. I was like going on these currents, but then instead of a real jellyfish, it's like as if the tentacles actually lead on to the next jellyfish, you know, like the, um, what is that called? The, you know, the trees, what does that called? mycelium. Mycelium. Yeah, the mycelium network underground, you know, I think it's something similar,

ashe: 2:36

um,

jaya: 2:38

somehow, and maybe it's similar in that. It's not exactly me, but I couldn't live without that. That is. Communicating among us, you know, but that's almost the same thing too. Anyway. Um, and I think that the fact that we do care is just, and that it feels good when we can care without a sense of obligation or over-responsibility, it feels good, you know? And the practice of shifting from, like, for example, I like to talk about, I like to inquire into the difference between. pity and openheartedness or compassion or love and how pity is like maybe looking down, oh, "you poor thing that you're suffering" or "those poor people, how awful that's terrible. That's unbearable". And so pity doesn't feel good because it's not really honoring the openness of what we are that interconnectedness ripping, whereas love without pity feels good. And why does it feel good? Because it's true. I think it's like, it's just, it's one. Breeze that blows through our openness, our interconnectedness, our interweaving -ness or whatever it is. So, and I feel like that is a main thing that I do get some maybe signals or sense that there is a reweaving starting to happen. There's the fragmentation. Culturally and ecologically and probably lots of other ways. Um, but I start to feel every weaving now more palpably. Yeah. I noticed that in the, in my drawings that it's, that's happening too. Like over the weeks that that's what showing up.

ashe: 4:25

Um, I was going to ask something else, but now I want to ask you, tell me about your drawing practice.

jaya: 4:33

what would you like to know about it?

ashe: 4:34

right. Just tell me everything is, um,