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Ini, Paul, Manny and Tobi Season 2 Episode 4

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Dive into a whirlwind of topics, from game nights to Nigerian politics! We chat about communication, trust, decision-making, corruption, and power struggles, all while exploring the influence of celebrities. Plus, we tackle the church, social media, gender, and poverty. It's a quick, fun, and thought-provoking dialogue—come join us!

Manny's Updates and Thoughts on Life

Manny

Hey guys, this is Manny from the 3UY's Laps, or back again with the new Dispensation. I call it Dispensation.

Ini

I love it.

Manny

Dispensation is fall, you know it's time to get dressed up for fall weather and everything you know I mean. So yeah, man, it's been a really great week, nice to catch up with you guys one more time, you know.

Paul

Yeah.

Manny

Paul, how you guys week been, how's it been so far?

Ini

Yeah, my week has been great. Like I always say every time anyone asks me, I'm grateful for, you know, the ability to work, because, that's all I fucking do, Inflation. Man Bro, these prices are hitting, bro, I'm considering getting another job. I'm considering going to farming, man, bro, I'm considering just grain, vegetables, tomatoes in my concrete bottle, my concrete bottle, in here, bro, yeah, man. This quick advice if you can work two, three jobs, man this is the best time to do it Only 24 hours in a day.

Manny

Suffering.

Paul

And the more you make, the more the taxing.

Ini

Yeah, so it's all good, and then the interesting thing that's been going on with me is the games night. We've been having games night and, oh man, it has been so wholesome.

Manny

Yeah.

Paul

So for people that don't know what games night entails, what does your Our games night?

Manny

Yeah, it's giving us a quick game. When he says, like you know, games night it's very weekend he's like, okay, how are we going to?

Ini

Our games night are safe space, you know, no touching games I mean.

Manny

Yeah, no, true Dodger games, man, finally.

Ini

No man, this is not one of those, you know. They say Nigermen, like all these true Dodger games and it's nothing.

Manny

Abang, abang. But yeah, no, these games night are like safe games, board games.

Ini

You know Ludo man. Ludo, I know cards and I guess, like really, when we started, to me it's all about just like. I'm not trying to be like cheesy here or anything, but on the surface it's games night, but really it's just about his mental health. To me, sha, this is my quota too.

Speaker 4

Oh.

Ini

This is my, Because I really feel, like you know, something like games night is almost therapeutic for a lot of people, Like you know a little bit more therapeutic than party yeah.

Paul

Shout out to those single people out there.

Manny

I'm not trying to keep, though I'm not trying to keep, but like, honestly, everything you're doing right now in terms of the city is huge, man, I kind of like like bruh, I mean everybody needs a specific decompression, you know. And like I should not have to pay like a killing to go to the city front of, like you know, no disrespect you know Other cultures and like how to pretend you know you can just like come in here. Wow With the most reckless disrespect Wow.

Ini

Exactly, it can be like authentic Wow. Authentic coming with your Exactly Just wow, I don't think the next improvement I'm going to activate is some suya man.

Manny

Word, word, word, word. We get this Nice as child in here on Friday nights.

Paul

Yeah, so up to you up to you, bro, how was your week? This guy said, managed to say, standing in front of other cultures, and pretend I mean, that's what you mean. You can't, you can't, you can't enjoy yourself, you know?

Manny

Yeah, like, nah, I mean, I mean everybody knows, like Nigerians, like I'm not trying to speak for all Nigerians because I'll just be blanketing everyone, right? But some people want to be loud, you know, some people want to like be expressive you know, they want to.

Paul

Like you know, we don't try.

Manny

One scream is loud, 80 for one one on a scream Paul 80 for the end of the room. What?

Ini

did he do? He can't help himself. Traveller stick fuck Nah man, paul, man, paul.

Manny

Anyways, I mean he could tell the amount of retweets from Mubad that he made on Twitter, like my mom was not even.

Ini

Oh, he's not made any comment on Mubad, he's not said a word about Mubad.

Manny

It's the craziest thing.

Ini

We'll be like all those guys on Twitter that drag, that, drag you. You you've not said anything.

Manny

Basically no, yeah, At least it's real life. Right. What were your thoughts on the Mubad situation?

Paul

for real, though, First of all, my week was okay. I got sick in the middle of the week.

Speaker 4

I was like nah I gotta go to work.

Paul

I mean, I need this paper I can't call in sick. I can't afford to call in sick. I think on Thursday I was like fuck this.

Ini

Only healthy people can work here.

Paul

I can.

Manny

Who told you bro? I remember I was like oh my God bro, no, no, no, bro, for real. Like you hear people literally dying, like people are like having flu, sneezing, coughing, I'm just like yo. Is this even normal? Like is this Press on soldier? No, no no, no. Talk about? Talk about front line, like bro.

Speaker 4

No, man, this is something I don't know man.

Ini

Call that a disspoint to get here. Insurance is just the front line actor.

Manny

Oh bro, oh man Like. Why does Buzzer hit him?

Speaker 4

No one's trying to hear Bro, you know.

Paul

And that's the thing. Now you're like Hydro is not going to be, like oh yeah, we understand You're not going into. Well, Basically basically Like during COVID, right, like it's like I had a loan that I was paying. Then I went, I called the loan guys and I'm like, yeah, you know, like this was going on right now. You know COVID is happening Because they sent an email saying if you're struggling to pay, call us.

Paul

I called them, I'm like, yeah, I was not struggling to pay, though, but I wanted to see what I could do. I was like, yeah, if you're struggling to pay, one advice I can give you is that just let your loan go to default.

Paul

And once it goes to default, it goes to collections. They not call them and tell them you're having payment troubles so you cannot pay monthly. And I got home I was just like so these people just dare ask for me to mess up my credit. That was the best advice they could give me.

Ini

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They just say pass it out to someone else, Holy fuck Either way, that's damn. That's crazy though.

Manny

That's crazy, it was still was to come.

Paul

I'm feeling much better now, so that's good. I'm excited for tomorrow to work on Saturday. On Sunday I'm going hiking with some friends. So, it's nice to get out of the city and just be in the wilderness.

Manny

Yeah, 40 days, 40 nights.

Speaker 4

He's giving Toby.

Ini

Oh bro, he's giving Toby.

Manny

Man bro Toby. Now, this is the second time.

Ini

Yeah, At this point it's like two yellow cards right Two yellow cards.

Manny

I mean, I don't know his podcast, he's like two yellow cards.

Ini

I mean it was out last week, he was available last week we were wearing. I mean, yeah, man, at this point it's like I mean we're going to ask for more.

Manny

We're going to ask man, we're going to like start, like look at, we just start sharing the calendars we're doing right now. Oh man, it's not easy to link up with my guys.

Ini

This is the kind of yourself on the calendar. It's like hey, can we link up on October 8th?

Paul

Bro, you have to be like two weeks, three weeks, yeah.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Paul

Last month. Whenever someone messes with you, they can't really come up to the ultimate.

Ini

I'm just like bro, that's the long bike you can't. Honestly, that's one of my biggest fears in life and I tell my people like, oh, when we have kids, are my kids going to be able to keep up with me?

Manny

Bro, what does that even fucking mean? I mean, imagine all my dad do like, because my dad, honestly, bro, I feel like I think about my dad sometime. It's like, bro, you know, this one was not even on my time, like I mean he could you know, you tell me, you give me moral guidance and everything, but that's about it. It wasn't like you know, hey man, let's play games. No, it was like I'm doing my thing. I hope you are.

Ini

Like you know, I feel like I'm going to become a dad. That involved, like not involved. I ask, I ask, I ask what traction wants to be involved in everything I do?

Speaker 4

Yeah, I think that's my choice.

Manny

Yeah.

Speaker 4

A lot of times it turns me down like you know, like what.

Ini

I don't want to do that with you.

Manny

That's good, that is good For real, like you know what I mean.

Ini

You see them with my kids and like I don't really want, like people say they don't want to have kids because then they can't do things and stuff and stuff I there's probably some stuff I won't be able to do with kids, yeah. But I feel like after a certain age man, they got to keep up with me man.

Manny

Bro, no, no, no, please, no, no, no, any any.

Speaker 4

You're going to grow like you know, if I can you know, like what's getting through and these kids down the mountain.

The Importance of Experiences and Graduations

Manny

I'm not going to stop you from like.

Ini

Honestly, don't, bro, like no, to me life is about activities, not really about material things.

Manny

Life is about like experiences, yeah word.

Ini

You know what I mean. I'll spend my money on experiences.

Manny

A hundred percent times yeah.

Ini

So like if you're telling me, because of kids I can't, because of kids I can't, well, I will compromise, but you know at some point they have to start, like you know.

Manny

No word, bro. And I mean, I think kids too want time for themselves, Exactly. I don't know that that is a home. Every time.

Ini

Oh no, don't you have friends Like go to a party. Like you know, mama should go out Like why are you, why are you around Like bro?

Manny

I'm trying to do some madness. I invited some chick over a day of that scene. I'm trying to like, do some mad shit at home, like.

Paul

I mean kids are going to like, do some crazy shit. I'm judging man right now.

Manny

Guys, kids, are going to do some crazy shit, why you want to be home just protecting that guy. I mean, like bro.

Paul

I like that point.

Ini

You got to go out.

Manny

Let them have the experience.

Ini

I know that they're not getting pregnant Exactly, I remember during COVID during COVID, you know, at least for us us that don't have kids like I don't have kids there was more like spending time with my partner.

Manny

Yeah, so I didn't really need. How is that? I mean, we know the result of it.

Ini

Two desks Like two desks was important.

Manny

Yeah, let's have two separate desks for sure.

Ini

Yeah, Like if you don't have to.

Speaker 4

So, that was.

Ini

Separate rooms or like same room. I mean we know separate rooms, I working, I working Like so that was when I live in 33. I had my desk. I mean when we moved. So this place was our first time living together.

Ini

So I had my desk in the office and then she has her desk in the living room, yeah, and then I started that job during COVID, right? Okay, so I started my manager at the time. I would see him, he'll come online, he'll talk to me and then his son would come over like put his hands around him and all that and I was like wait, hold it, Hold up, hold up this COVID.

Ini

She's different from families, because now it's not as if the parents are stuck with the kids. I felt like the kids were stuck with parents, bro.

Manny

I'm dressed up, bro. I can't even imagine, imagine your dad working at home. Bro, my mom working at home, that is long.

Paul

I've only seen him when my dad was at home.

Ini

Dude you're going to work at home.

Paul

Dude, leave the crib.

Ini

Bro, don't you have something to look at outside?

Manny

Don't you have something to look at outside, bro?

Ini

Leave the fucking crib what are you doing Every time once my dad comes in? Obviously I'm happy my dad came home and held me here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's like bro, what are you doing Bro? No, bro, and that's the thing, no 100%.

Manny

No, you're about to make me feel like all the bad people that I see no, no, no, no, everybody, yeah, yeah, yeah, no everybody.

Paul

Everybody I had on one time like my dad, though look, he was not in high school. He didn't want to come for any parents teachers.

Manny

I feel him man. I feel that way I feel it. I feel it it is because of my graduation.

Paul

Damn Damn Dude that is rough it was like bro, I'm sorry, I'm working man, I'm like you own your business, you can leave. Well, you can't heath all you can't heath all yeah, seriously, what are those things?

Manny

Bro, you know self-employment people man.

Ini

Look at how he paid off for us. We literally had COVID gradation.

Speaker 4

Man, that's what's wrong.

Ini

We literally had online Zoom grads.

Manny

Damn for real.

Ini

Yeah, we graduated during COVID Shit. It was Zoom grad right. But, you still went for your impressing because it was sentimental to him.

Manny

We all like no man.

Paul

It was like it was like it was, just like what was it about Child to trauma.

Ini

Yeah, man.

Manny

You know he's trying to show up for himself.

Paul

My big brother was like you should go.

Manny

Yeah, sorry we're in school.

Ini

We're being toxic with your people?

Manny

No, bro, I don't care bro, fuck him, fuck him. Fuck him, fuck him.

Paul

My high school ones. They paid me though because everyone was with their parents taking pictures when it's going into Where's your dad dude Like Paul. Cody, I can't Like.

Manny

Oh, no one oh yeah, man, that was up in the house, that was up in the house.

Speaker 4

Then all it's getting on my parents like oh, congratulations.

Paul

I'm like keep your congratulations.

Manny

I feel like no, no, no, no. What were you and what are you doing? My high?

Ini

school grad was special.

Manny

Yeah, I liked it my dad even dragged his sister.

Ini

That's crazy. That's nice. I've been more toxic with my With your story. That's nice, man, my dad like bro, my high school grad, my high school grad.

Manny

My dad was like yo, I cool, boom Etadica, let's go home. I didn't even get to take pictures. Nothing. I was like all right, boom, let's go home bro.

Ini

Y'all more laughs, bro. Grads are super emotional.

Manny

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if they are no uni grad dude.

Ini

Uni grad was my emotional, it was my emotional. For me it was a chance for my brother for coming through from different provinces to make sure he came to see my grad I had

Manny

my brother and my partner in my grad. It was some content. We love Paul, Paul, Paul. I think Paul is okay. He's okay to let it all out.

Paul

Then I got into it with my degree. My dad was like you know, that's not enough, right.

Ini

I love you, boom man.

Manny

Yo, yo, yo yo. That is wild. I love you. Boom man.

Ini

Damn man. Yeah, even men in Nigeria are like I, look like they are my, when it comes to like no nonsense Archetype. Right, like no nonsense archetype.

Manny

That's me, man, that's crazy.

Ini

I'm trying to slow it down a little bit. My no-nonsense archetype, but, like bro, it saves me a lot of stress in this life, bro it does. Is it short cut to like like rubbish. I don't like rubbish, I don't like nonsense. I feel you, bro. I can tell you a quick. Too many stories that just happened recently.

Speaker 4

Yeah yeah yeah.

Ini

This spot like somebody. I mean this is, this should probably be not on the internet but for the entertainment. I'm going to do it.

Manny

CTE, CTE, man Okay, Contact about everything. Man oh, COE Wow. I said CTE, I'll see if I patch my head on you all and English is supposed to be your first language.

Paul

No so disappointed. Check out this experience I had lately, man.

Misunderstandings and Communication Struggles

Ini

So I guess in life you live and learn right, live and learn baby. So we moved into this place and then I just met the guy that also moved into another floor and then I he says he just came to introduce himself and in like I don't know what happened to me in like two minutes, two seconds I just started running my mouth to this guy, opened up to all the stuff like I'm up to. That may not be like you know, super, you know what I mean, yeah. And then next thing, two days later, I get an email from the authorities, which is just the landlord, obviously.

Manny

Yeah, the authorities, that's the authorities now.

Ini

Yeah, and the landlord is like oh, someone told me, you're doing this.

Manny

Huh, bro, why is it just dry stitching Like literally the day you messed it up?

Ini

Right, that's what that's. The first place my mind was Is it?

Manny

was. It was what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what? I'm not trying to be like racey, you know I like your reactions there right.

Ini

So now I said this story is about me being the non-nonsense Akita man yeah. I messaged this guy in style Word man. And as I read the email I'm like fuck this guy, pick up my phone and I got that textiles my first time ever meeting him. But we actually had numbers.

Paul

Here's how the conversation go.

Ini

So another was my guy. As soon as the guy left asked my guy was like what I just did? You trust him? I was like I don't trust no one in this life. Oh, no, okay, this story gets interesting. I'm like bro, you told him a lot this. He's like Uh, no, I did it. Oh, I'm like Um, why you? Know I'm messaging you Lalo right now.

Manny

I'm like why I'm like, oh no don't do that he did not mention you.

Ini

He was like oh, so you're testing me. Yes, yes. I Okay. So I now come down after my whole Chris bosses. I'm like okay, maybe it's not him, that's nice him bro. So I message him like oh, like, I hope you understand my paranoia. I just told you all of this shit. Now someone is messaging me. He's like oh, I get it. Well, you could have just asked bro no. I was like, well, I don't know this guy from Adam.

Speaker 4

Yes, my first time.

Ini

I feel like everybody in this life has the right to test anybody.

Manny

You only have one fucking life. You have one fucking life. You can't come back to this moment again. No, I can't go back to load game.

Ini

I read the email again and I read it closely. Yeah, and the email actually said this guy had shown someone this space before me and that person told him that he wanted to flat out, you know, do something that he was not gonna allow. Yeah, and then the landlord said oh no, sir, I can't take you. Yeah, right, so then me, when I approach him, I just I told him what I really wanted to use it for, which is this, the studio podcast right, and then he let me use it. Now it turns out like somebody that may have come for one of our games night or one of those other Naged or oh shit.

Ini

So now I don't even know it is. So now I'm living in.

Manny

Bra like well, first of all, but why? Why? That's not piece of me off.

Ini

First of, all so you came for an event, yeah you didn't like something in the event. What it feels like. It feel like. It feel like well, if I'm allowed to do this, why wasn't he allowed to do that? So that's why I'm sorry, like I have a question.

Manny

I have a question, you know. You know you never need question, you know. So I feel like everything get brocked enough and you get Be like yeah, you get me like cuz. It's like okay, you want me to allow somebody to do something? It's like, yeah, what are you doing? Like.

Paul

Are you mad at yourself for not being smart enough to find the way to do this? Basically you pissed off at that. I am not coming because someone else. I found the better way to do it to make your work. You're always just to go there, me go snitch. So if I can't do this, you know, I mean you can't.

Ini

You know I'm tripping out. I was sick, my bones.

Paul

After Whatever that word accusing someone else.

Ini

I possibly accused him, I mean imagine imagine, imagine that guy now imagine like

Paul

this motherfucker.

Manny

No, no, no, I have a question. I just met you Guys.

Ini

Like the command ask you hey, dude, did you?

Paul

Okay, Johnny boy. Good morning sir, hey there.

Ini

Oh, so you were testing and I said yeah, and I was like not cool dude. I didn't trust me, I was like sure sure. But then here's what I've learned with my like how I balance up my Chris Apple just very quickly with me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can admit it, I know obviously like when I see that I I like when I see that I have aggressively engage someone. Like I have to cook, especially when like things may have changed.

Manny

Like yeah, I.

Ini

Like to temp I very quickly. Obviously my story doesn't go along with. Sometimes I appreciate that story in that moment.

Manny

Okay, I guess.

Ini

I get what you were trying to see. Yeah, if you receive what you could have said this you, I'm like don't know exactly.

Manny

No, I do not like. So I Mean honestly what I think. When I was young, gary, I think I was like I know I not to communicate. I love communicate. I like expressing oh, my god, I do not like to explain anymore. I'm not trying to explain to you like I feel like we're old enough. Well, adults. I have come, are you in a way you should kind of understand why.

Ini

I'm coming.

Manny

Don't stop asking. I've never been here before.

Ini

You should understand why I would. Yeah, I see why.

Paul

I got me.

Ini

That's got me down. I would rather like me. I rather have like direct, swift and effective communication. Damn beating around. I mean for kids, with kids.

Manny

I'll be nicer if you're younger than me, I'm really younger than me, I would be nicer, but if me or you, I can sense that we're like literally same age.

Ini

Oh. My expectation is my biggest, all my relationships, my friendships that have all broken down have broken down based on the fact that I just felt like the other person was not my communication standard. Call it pride, call it Whatever I want to call it. I have communication standards and did not meet it.

Speaker 4

I.

Paul

Shout out to you Malik. He was one of my guys. Like he was, like yo he was.

Manny

So it's not anymore. We don't talk that much.

Paul

He used to tell me, like yo, malik is, the thing you can do is say you're sorry. Once you just go. I'm sorry, You've kind of disarmed.

Ini

I don't, I don't agree.

Paul

No, especially, especially if you know your fault the?

Ini

I agree, this is the guy. Do you say I'm sorry, but the hardest thing you can do is give a genuine apology Because, see, and I just told you, I have communication standards. I'm telling you when I sometimes I feel like your apologies not genuine.

Paul

Yeah, that now Situation Very good question.

Manny

First of all, it's perspective perspective, perspective my perception.

Ini

Tomato tomatoes yeah, I think it's like your perspective, so you have a right to.

Paul

Accept or not accept?

Ini

the right to gauge if an apology is genuine or not, and you can be wrong about your perception to. But again, two things can be right. I don't know if you struggle with that.

Manny

I mean, I was a young again. Yeah, what I was reading your mouth, I'll see what. My ass, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, that's not.

Speaker 4

Okay, cool Like this cool love.

Manny

I can't tell when I'm a point because I've been damaged.

Ini

I like you in that situation is that like. Obviously, she should not act based on the fact that, like I mean, she should not inflict pain on you, based on the fact that you know the apology. She felt like it was not genuine.

Manny

You know, but that's the thing how the time.

Ini

She was right, because Based on the situation.

Manny

I could just easily tell you sorry.

Ini

I'm sorry Through you like, just through, you like, if like a sorry, sorry. Yeah, like sorry, oh I explain to you like oh, this is what I felt, like you said, and I feel like this how you rub me the wrong. I like, Just yeah you just kind of sorry, that just like she means you say okay, okay, okay, sorry to okay. I don't hear, but like nothing was resolved, yeah, I mean, I think for me, for me though.

Manny

Like when I say sorry, I apologize if, like, for example, in that situation where clearly I was dug in, I was trying to like dug out some guy, pause, that wasn't.

Speaker 4

You know, I apologize to him.

Manny

Yeah, I'm trying to like keep my anger.

Ini

Yeah, why shouldn't?

Manny

he die, fire to continue with my search. You know I think it's a search I can't. I can't just say sorry and I'll be sincere, and it's like I have to be like yo. I'm sorry for that. Why shouldn't he die? I need that.

Ini

To continue my search. I was like, I was like bro, okay, sorry my bad, but like don't you get my point.

Manny

Okay, I know the guy that did it.

Paul

Sorry, man, but I love it through people.

Ini

It's down on the list now I've been. List of false suspects.

Manny

Wait, wait, wait, this is good.

Paul

This is a mafia, like if you see these guys come up to not allow.

Ini

But you're not like how are you gonna explain to them what you're not allowed?

Manny

I'll be like Five Jesus, we seem to believe that you are, you are.

Speaker 4

Not interested in this case.

Manny

No, that's crazy, though that's real man. That's crazy. Human beings are like you, even learn like human beings are like talking about, you know, just like talking about, like you know, anger and blind anger. You know, look at that Trudeau clip that came across like this week, when he's just like oh yeah, man, you know, the indian government he has, we need to believe the indian government did this and did that and he's just like well, that was like. That's what we're talking about here. Like the guy was kind of like swiftly.

Ini

Yeah, yeah, call them out like yo bro.

Manny

What do you guys think about that whole clip I?

Ini

think I think they said that again. We always announce on this podcast. Don't hold us as your standard.

Manny

I'm sorry. These are the five. Information, like every other thing, do your information.

Ini

Information here sometime do your research. I know the PD give you. Yeah man Someone told me that um he he acted that way because he had confidence in the intelligence 100%. And I could have been the states like people from, like the united states intelligence and like people in the union bloc that Assured him of like that.

Manny

That is wild.

Ini

That's why he went.

Paul

No, 100%. He went crazy like that. 100%. It's only Trump that does that. Like wow, just come out and say things that I bought on that head of state.

Manny

I mean, I mean he's a level head, I think that's the kind of sense of prime minister or president.

Paul

Because of diplomatic relationship, you don't just come out and accuse.

Manny

Unless you have the UN is not even you know everything.

Paul

Unless you have the proof or you have a lot of listen to accuse this person.

Ini

Yeah, this person potentially did this. I think something happened last time, one of these events that he had last year where, like Trudeau failed to suspected by the Indian president there was some issues.

Manny

So I think that one was personal, but then, other than that, I think his behavior was based on the fact that intelligence was incredible, I mean I mean, in a way, right because, like in terms of ideologies, like apparently the man that got killed or the Well, I don't even know if he's a diplomat, but it's part of his government, right.

Ini

He got out of the queue.

Manny

He was yeah, it's like a sick Fighting for, like the same things that you know Cuba class fights for. You know like, oh, we want our own sovereignty, we want our own space and everything so, and if always, like the Indian government's con like considers that group like a terrorist organization.

Ini

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4

Yeah, the fact is all pretty with Dean, the Canadian government.

Manny

obviously he would make you think that, okay, you guys are like siding with this guy, so we have you know first we are, we have dibs on him. He's Indian before it's Canadian.

Speaker 4

Yeah, exactly, but people like this dual citizenship thing is you confuse a lot of people because, like, are you Canadian or are you Indian?

Manny

You know type shit.

Ini

So it's like and then they're saying that that issue is obviously very touch and go like lots of world leaders don't With India. They don't like to bring that shit up.

Manny

Yeah.

Ini

Human rights abuses, from what I understand. I don't really know the details of that conflict like with the six and you know.

Manny

Bro. But now what we're seeing nowadays is that a lot of people like a lot of these Asian, like Countries like China, for example, china, taiwan. No one's going to see what Taiwan is, his own country like.

Ini

Can't we see that she, you see?

Manny

that she bro like.

Ini

I don't. Is how, like they say in India, is an ally of the state. Yeah, the states are snitching on them to.

Paul

Canada Tider.

Ini

But why is America snitching on one of the US is like you know it's kind of like we don't really necessarily have like an army.

Manny

We have an army ball. I don't go to have better weapons than the US. The US how like they they're basically Meant to be the protectors of, like North America basically. So they have, like I mean they have autonomy on that end. But I don't think, I mean I don't think the US really cares about India, like, yeah, we're cool with India, but I'm pretty sure India too they are like cool with China.

Paul

Yeah, it's kind of like makes those things very touchy. They'll probably take Canada over India.

Ini

You know I have to really have to like Space right now because, like everyone inside me in there, because they're the other power other than you know Russia, like everybody else, I know Russia side or China. I mean.

Manny

I made this touch when I saw, when I saw the clip, I was like yo, this is wild man hey man, I love my pointy cool, I go about political issues. Yeah, I want. I saw that clip. I was like whoa, you know, it's the kind of like you. Yeah, I kind of remember when Bush just went down I was like yo, you know we're going to bomb. Like you know you rock, or a fight me inside, I'm saying was give me that same vibe.

Ini

The speech was very.

Manny

Like for, I think, for three days. Like leave Canadian, like his prime minister, was trapped in India. I'm not sure I know why is it like what's going on there?

Ini

So obvious something serious, because this is plainly they said he's plainly did some right right now.

Paul

No, there's intelligence issues for sure they're trying to make sure.

Ini

Man what politics is crazy? Man, I love it. Man, I love it, I swear, and we're like life or death, I love it man, I that's.

Manny

That's like. I mean, I'm not telling universe. I love to be in like politics man.

Ini

I don't know those guys feel like those guys feel like they have nine lives. Politicians they live life like because you know I've. Ultimately they know everybody's gonna die, but like for them. They feel like I don't think they like death is like a concept, that they really Other people die for politicians.

Paul

Oh, yeah, what we're very interested was like how they came on. They went oh, we're banning Canadian citizens from coming into our country, word. And it's like if it's the other way around, oh my god, the whole dude have turned us into like, oh, this is racist, how would, how dare you ban People of color from coming into your?

Paul

word I mean this, this, this, this cuz, when Trump did it to those countries. I'm not a a a a. I'm not saying why it was right or wrong, I'm just giving my. It's just like how certain group of people can do certain things and it's like, hey, I understand it. I'm interested yeah that we around is like a yo.

Manny

I mean, I think I think it's a lot of like your century, western or centric. Does everyone like that? But like you're right though, cuz I mean yeah, yeah, I think that's a superpower like that's not even copying the idea of superpower like you just launched a freaking spaceship or, or rocket, or I mean ship to the moon, so like they're already like making mud bounds and honestly, they're really great in tech as well.

Paul

Yeah, man, they do they really, like you know, in manpower, yeah, a lot of the biggest like wow yeah yeah.

Ini

Biggest company companies in the US are headed by Indians.

Paul

Yes, yes, they're even was the most prominent style of.

Manny

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we see.

Paul

They are. They're dominating the world you that guy's? Ndp the next person.

Power and Corruption in Nigerian Politics

Manny

Oh, yeah, yeah, word, word. I think in Canadian men are some nice double O7 ship like let's stop that guy's. You know, one time though he was like making fun of.

Paul

True, though, was like oh, true, though you travel to this space, you spend some month of money on traveling and security, and no, and I'm like Give you a position.

Speaker 4

You're gonna do the.

Manny

Everybody's awful of shit, man.

Ini

Awful shit awful of shit.

Manny

Well, that's interesting about power man. Whenever I get, whenever whatever touches it, you know you feel device like. We see it in every situation.

Speaker 4

Women- as was man.

Ini

The church to just change a little bit. But now Nigerian politics the cheese that I saw recently that are the same in their trip that we're talking about all this work almost like a lot of drama happening in India. This way for even with people that don't matter.

Manny

Bro, I just saw tabloid news.

Ini

I don't know how treat is. Yeah, that like the Indian authorities were called to a hotel at like 2 am and some of those days I guess who they saw in there, marulin not, I was a not.

Manny

I see what you know our first son, he's son.

Ini

She eaten the word was having an orgy, and Now it has become a diplomatic issue. That for way way. Is this real? That's why I read in tabloids like you can't be asking me.

Manny

It's real. I mean tabloids man, I should like.

Ini

He was called having an origin in India and, like now, everybody's a little bit concerned with his excesses and I'm telling you, my she's generation like this our generation.

Manny

You mean, oh how?

Ini

is this business for you, though, for real? Oh shit early 40s, I believe.

Manny

Kids.

Ini

Like down there, or just you right now.

Paul

They get anything they want at some point, just only one babe or two babes, we see the rhetoric on sick talk about, like monogamy is a social construct.

Manny

I mean, people are maybe beating down, which is kind of weird, but yeah, man, when you, when, when money is around, bro, like a lot of things up in the air.

Ini

Like they say or something love but to broke, to actually have biases, yeah let's get legit.

Manny

I look out by doing, bro like my guys, just national secrets in the laptop, starting cocaine I already buy. This bitch is like bro.

Paul

I'm leaving it up. Trump lappa buddy pussy yeah. I mean, this place is shan't never hear, like when he speaks you.

Speaker 4

Loud oh, I'm gonna money and power.

Ini

It also, like this one, seems like more credible news that happened. I like how we differentiate where we hail these things from. Coach your sources anyway, so like article had filed like so far.

Paul

People don't know. Article is give them.

Ini

Second, I run out when you present. I have my coat, my hands in the mic, and he was a previous.

Manny

Second place on article.

Ini

It was the first ever vice president, but just listening to be second expat that's it anyways, he Sood, the American invested that in blue so that he attended. I always forget their name. I don't know if it's like Colton or whatever, I don't even know. Because it is kind of I always forget the name of the investee ball like, yeah, I think so. I don't even know. They take them to court. That issue is his. He's like to know booze records. Yeah and he turns out like the judge, like grants him His wish and give them to this really easy.

Ini

This was just was to receive by Thursday Same Thursday. Article goes files he's Supreme Court in Nigeria. This thing that I want to take the whole situation to Supreme Court because he lost in in the previous courts. Right, he man will be lost. So now they are going to the highest court in the land Same day that he was gonna get those records. See, power bro to noble sense is lawyers Same George.

Manny

Wait, wait, wait, wait, he's lawyer, same George, no it's reasonable sense is lawyers to the same judge.

Ini

Okay to like fire and appeal and Now like it's delayed.

Manny

Man bro, like now.

Ini

They've delayed the junction that the university should release the records. Now I think there's none the way he's gonna get that. I'm telling you this like power-pass power.

Manny

No bro, no question, my hands are up, right huh, everyone's up. Why does anyone think they would ever get justice in Nigeria? Like I mean, that thing is a myth at this point. Like what is the point? The guys already wanted tank. Like there's no coming back. Like nobody goes to, unlike undue me 29th. Like they did a whole ceremony.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Manny

October fest is coming up about, to do it in Japan.

Ini

Yeah. I'm just restyling here okay, I think it's coming up is 100 days in office is going to be in no time Exactly I live in it already.

Paul

He's already passed. He's already passed for 100 days. He's already the one. Now what are there is like what?

Manny

three months from me? That's when, like bro, like this thing's gone. So this whole. You know, trying to compete, trying to like on the boys dawn.

Politics, Corruption, and Mobad's Role

Ini

Yeah, I don't want to go too deep into the whole Niagara politics stuff. But this is why I said from the start that like obit should have just played. Second, yeah. I think we sing go handily swing people. I think we do not joke with the courts. I think was pretty. He should, he should, we should his boss About some Joe, like 13 times in the color yeah, and he ran.

Manny

How many times we got? He wanted times yeah, but he's sued the law. How much?

Speaker 4

yeah.

Manny

Run for election. How much I think I like. How long was in office for?

Ini

see, I just feel like I must be stuck up. You should have me. Smarter men shall be smarter with the, with the choices, like second place is always. But I tell people, a lot of people, I mean I'm just way on the.

Manny

I'm wearing this life man, why I mean people on the second place.

Ini

People on the smith being good enough, people on the smith being average people on the Smith being the shadows.

Manny

Shadow, you're a dick.

Ini

You know he runs. The article is gonna be spoiled. He's going to be migmar old is going to be this. You know we're different.

Manny

I'm not even pure bro, like the obvious, not even only guy like now, even if they win.

Ini

Right now, decision is going to be that game second. Basically so busy.

Manny

We need to beat two of them man bro, I don't I again anyone thinking that it can operate Nigeria. So my idealistic view is stupid. Loki, you have to be part of the shit. 77.

Ini

I was the only way. The only way Nigeria is going to change is if this is what I'm saying. This is my grand plan for Nigeria.

Manny

Yeah, are you thinking of taking over in?

Ini

like in tears like taking over Nigeria. Yeah, I don't know what position that would be because I don't believe necessarily will be the presidential role, but yeah, maybe any the most, the most influential road that can bring change to Nigeria. I don't mind it, but here's what I think needs to happen. They need to be a power audit in Nigeria.

Ini

Yes, first and foremost they need to count the number of tangible Power in Nigeria, because when I see tangible power meaning like what office do you hold? Yeah right, and what power comes with the office, bro, let us take stock best and foremost if it's 5,060, if it's 5,673 people that have tangible power in Nigeria, let's know that, as we are starting from and, like you said, only people within those 5,700 Can choose determine in their hearts that they are going to change the system like double or seven the road.

Manny

I'll be honest with you. I'll be honest with you. Not everybody says you know commerce. You just hit earth. And when I start, all over again. That's all I mean, I know it's kind of like dark and fucked up. Sent us here to get them to fuck out of Nigeria eventually, yeah, and all we can do is hope that a commerce strikes and we can start all over again. That's my only solution to that place because, yeah, corruption runs deep, but before we get into like too much politics yeah because we're honest, like segue into this conversation about mobad because, it kind of likes to Like basically your place within this.

Ini

You know I'm a spirit, of course, dogs and all that shit.

Manny

So I mean, I don't know if you guys saw this week on everything with that's some Larry guy, hmm, all the commentary about NDLE a, and you know they're a Mali, basically being the ambassador of NDLE a. Like, bro, I have you, like, have you really thought into those things? Because when we saw those clips about him taking pictures about NdLE a, like telling us Bro, just guys have all like doing the way y'all boys do, a FCC yeah.

Manny

Yeah, yeah, this is a way to drop push up because, let's be honest, like my music, clearly, like everybody, has kind of like been revolting saying Yo Naramali, I didn't know he was in his thing, what bro?

Ini

We all knew we've been.

Manny

Everybody kind of like.

Ini

Like we knew what was going on in Malian music.

Manny

Yeah, man, I'm like now seeing this shit transition like where your thoughts on you know, I'm not gonna ask Paul right now, because Paul showed me some J Cole lyrics about you know oh, the rich, the poor are dying.

Ini

I hate you. I hate you. I was just buying you a drink.

Manny

Yeah, it was worry or thought something.

Ini

Yeah, man, like I have safe person, first and foremost, rip, like I have him over down, really, really here. I know I don't want to like make it about my pain, but, like you know, a lot of people are in pain and I just want to sit and puttled those people.

Manny

Except for his dad.

Ini

Thank you guys. So much like I when I saw the news. I saw it first. On Heather's story, by the way. Like it was Heather, I saw it first and I was like it was the house, the.

Manny

You know how was the O'Coley household.

Speaker 4

I like to hear about you company.

Manny

How it was. You know, shaking and moving.

Ini

When I heard he died I was like, okay, I was sad initial stage. Yeah, we all started to see how everything. I think man, I thought we just start then showing drop, you know, and then we all started ready. I don't want to overflog. Everybody has, like this whole thing has been over, you know, talked about yeah. I just feel like all I want to say about the whole situation is like Again, we've been, we know, we know the shit. Yeah, talkery, bullying is there like.

Speaker 4

Gangster is him.

Manny

Yes, sir, you know what my my reminds me of. My my reminds me of that Nigerium, like that Nigerium of your Netflix, with this people get I was like Playing like a robot dog for RMD. Oh oh yeah.

Ini

King of boys. King of boys was something like that Shanty town.

Speaker 4

No, that was like.

Paul

Was that the name of the place? I don't know what the name of that Nego, I think it was Gangster, yeah that guy reminds your.

Manny

Sam Larry man. Oh, yes, yes, father, anyway, yeah, it was fighting enough.

Ini

Everything, everything, please, and what really pisses me off about the whole situation is that, like all of this plays out in all our institutions. Yeah the church, this school.

Manny

I saw someone is breaking down this church thing to me, cuz I do not even understand, like how is it gangsterism? Yes so it's because it's lion that we're talking about. Sorry, sorry, sorry, I would like to. I mean that guy.

Ini

I mean like nobody. If you come a little bit like I don't really know the details about what they mean, like a charisma in church, but like From what me I understand, like there's been some some, there's some pastors. I've had obviously history, like you know, some history.

Ini

Yeah like recently. There doesn't even happen. Last day we want to high-profile pastime in Nigeria, where they killed his whole convoy Because his car was the only one that was bulletproof in the whole convoy. I'm not gonna say his name, but we know Kai's a little bit of drama bro, what's his name? A person, what's his name? The calling.

Paul

They killed his whole convoy and only him and Suleyman.

Ini

No, yeah, suleyman, it doesn't even like. If you Google, is them opposite, suleyman, yeah.

Manny

That's crazy.

Ini

He's whole convoy other than his car, based on some drama from his past, was a conscious the whole. I don't know.

Manny

That's a mafia aggression like they wipe everybody on a. You are coming, do you see?

Paul

we can't do this, you know, just so you know even the fact that, what got into his head?

Ini

I like, yeah, I'm gonna get my car bullet bullet proof for him, because in Nigeria, that's how you know a lot like. But me, I think the Thug Green Church is more about, like Emotional manipulation and all those things that we already talk about. Yeah, I feel like that's the Thug Green Church, like using scripture to you know. Like you know, using scripture to sort of like Perpetuate your own mindset, your own cultures, you know but that's wild.

Manny

You know like rich all leaders have brought the lines between you.

Ini

know their opinions, yeah, that culture. Yeah, the word of God. Yeah, and I'm not going to blame them because it can be very easy sometimes, because even when you start going into areas like how do you hear the Holy Spirit, I mean how do you? Decipher which voices is very deep.

Manny

Yeah, no, no hundred lower I expect.

Ini

Can you tell the difference between your?

Manny

Intensive thoughts. This, this guy's right, like bro. We also realize that I mean, my dad is a pastor, right and yeah, but I suppose the live you know?

Ini

Thanks, yeah, we have to pass those kids.

Manny

No, but for real, do like my dad's a pastor ball, you know the other thing, that thing is kind of like I mean a lot of people do all this. I mean that question actually legit, but for me, right, it makes me hard. It makes it very hard for me to like go to church sometimes because it's very easy for me To hear someone's opinion and just like you guys chatting vibe Like Holy Spirit here about what I say.

Manny

Platform you know is a platform for him to speak on. His opinions are kind of like, because I mean we should be like balance. Sometimes you speak, I get wow, they can get balance. You know, anything is they are people just kind of like just come in opinions, opinions, opinions and in alcohol, oh yeah, you don't have money.

Ini

Go to heaven, bro. Just like every other thing pretty need a skill.

Manny

No, bro, I'm a pastor is a skill, so the tree in speaking is what they do. Yeah, I'll be speaking.

Ini

No, if you actually talk about like shepherding a church. Yeah, like you know, teaching people the word of God, they train you that you should not deviate from words in the book. Yeah, I mean and if you're, if you're really going to keep up with that, what you really should be doing is, before you utter any Statements, yeah, it should be, maybe a prelude to a scripture.

Manny

Yeah, at least something that reference a reference to a scripture.

Ini

You know if it just did. Some pastors who just hold my leave and those talking leave. If I wanted to listen to a poem.

Manny

Oh.

Ini

Read scripture at the beginning and that's it. Everything else is some of you. Yes, let me draw you out.

Manny

You're gonna see me like a guy. It's like whoa, what are you talking about? How are you going?

Ini

to stay on track with scripture, if you are going 45 minutes just rambling bro, I just like you tripping on the youth.

Manny

Yeah, no, oh, you are wearing this. You're called your confusional demand. Why are you first of all what the men confuse?

Ini

When I went for Thanksgiving ceremony in in the church in in In a do states and what happened. Yeah, it was crazy, like pasto was typical.

Manny

Like chatting.

Ini

Was this pasto that rich, very graceful? Yeah, I don't know why we're good guy when gun transfer Mike to someone that's come on close the close the service come and pray for people. After I've reached this one now called everybody out there. Very, very lovely message on fear. Yeah, like you know, don't let fear grip you.

Manny

You know, yeah, we're all gonna die like you know.

Ini

All these things right. Very lovely machine. A positive party, Mike. To this pastor. This is a raggedy person. First thing this guy says after everybody, I just submitted down their knees and like somber and sober, it's just us. Why would fear want to kill you?

Manny

What does that Bloody?

Ini

me when some of you in dummy have opened your legs, wow. Nick what you know apparently in a just in beneath state and they are very like does he love y'all yeah?

Speaker 4

bro, there's everywhere.

Paul

I don't know what y'all means is fraud stars fraud.

Manny

Stars or ritual, or you know. Let's stop the cop.

Ini

No, those people that call themselves Nigerian Prince.

Paul

I email you. I'm in the jump rings or you harvest you money.

Ini

That's all we call y'all, yeah, so the guy was just bashing them to like when you are carrying two phones. What does that mean people I won't fear want to kill you. They feel kill you. They a pastor On this on the pulpit saying fear will kill you there.

Manny

I mean, I mean, it's kind of like you know, people always want to like act like they're God. You know God will be like oh yeah, I'm sending a storm because we'll be fighting people out of like one million people. I'm gonna send a storm. And then you, when a man starts talking like that, it's like bro, you're not God.

Manny

You're not the financier on anything, like you can only come here to give me your opinions. Yeah, I interpret what God is telling you, but you come here to tell me like you're going to like, fank, wish me or, you know, destroy me is like I'm feeling late.

Ini

I'm feeling late to just talk to people that like Dating and like Christian dating right.

Manny

Yeah.

Ini

Christian dating is one of the deepest holes that people find themselves in because like. Like I don't trust, like the pastor is the love maker. The one I'll come here to pit, yeah, yeah the pastor told me once that I should break up my beef that it has not been confirmed from the lord. Damn the right man. I was like, wait there, I'll go confirm for you. Let me just show you how I'll confirm it for you.

Manny

What does it mean?

Ini

Bro, I swear I kind of love confirms us.

Manny

Yo, I had a lot of fucked up stories in Winnipeg man about like pastors that will be like yo. Like you know You're not a good person or lot told me. I'm just like bro, he loves telling you a lot of shit.

Ini

What's the lot telling you about your?

Manny

life, a lot of honor shit. How about you man? He's like bro, what is he telling? He's not giving you lowdown. I mean it's crazy man, but that's kind of like I mean, that's just. I mean side stepping, yeah, um, but I mean in terms of, like, you know, nigerians and shit, I think really and truly like bright everybody's just kind of like pay attention to what needs to pay attention to our what. No, you know, like you ain't gotta like listen to nobody about nothing, man, you know, yeah man.

Misinformation and Accountability in Society

Ini

I mean, I'm a loose I'm, I'm an advocate for like, like I said, I'm, I'm very detailed, active listening is one of my Like. So I think, listen to everybody, boy. Well, if you like, you have pulling the work is like your distillation. How you, you're discernment, what you do, information and everyone, everyone is going through right now. It's not just Christians or Muslims. Everybody's dealing with misinformation, disinformation, my information over information.

Speaker 4

Information, information, information.

Ini

I don't know maybe the sea news. Now we know we do. On die informed, bro, you clog your brain bro, why do? You want the height of information.

Paul

Man Sound like becoming much.

Ini

Yeah, so everybody just got it. Like I said on this podcast, we don't to our own Honda. We have all our facts right. Because that's not, we can't really have all the facts right, right? So go do your. Go do your research and, like you, know, and if we're wrong about shit you can email us right? We're glad to hear everyone's Opinions. When we don't know everything, you know, we're just a bunch of guys that um Like to mess around.

Paul

Yeah, I mean it is what it is, but that's what we're here for now, right? We just had to Talk about feelings, say whatever that comes to mind.

Manny

Oh feelings.

Paul

This is wow.

Manny

Paul, what are your feelings about my you? I see what I've taken a break from.

Speaker 4

Repeat that, repeat that repeat that repeat that it's there from preseason.

Paul

I got very busy and I I think this is due to burnout.

Manny

I don't know what I feel you, but you're here.

Paul

Yeah, I just don't have the energy to that feel you the emotion now you know and watch that, watching united and watch it exactly and and this thing I'm waiting for, like, okay, you guys, we not you guys playing right now.

Ini

I think it's done. I think you lost.

Paul

I lost the game is done right now, when we're just recording. I know I checked it was one zero halftime, so now it's one zero we won. So that's the first win over over a while first win.

Ini

So it is no.

Paul

Fernandez so. Bruno, I'm waiting for them to like. Maybe it's like Because we have a lot of players out injured and see. See, that's something I want to talk about before wrap up. Yeah, how'd you guys feel about this? You know we do. The court system is innocent on improving guilty, but right now it's like corporations are bent into the wheel of social media.

Ini

Yeah, they got a choice is what happened. Yeah, because there's the court of public opinion.

Paul

Like this, these two guys, greenwood and antony, that they had people Like accuse them. Greenwood was an accusation, greenwood something like the line was fast and Distinct Antonin's almost an accusation.

Ini

Right.

Paul

And so I next thing that the chick that accused him and I was like, oh, why is much than that? No, like suspending him like he, he did this to me. Why should he get to live his everyday life and not be?

Manny

Girl, because you're, because you're basic like bro. Even the approach already is telling me that you also want some endis mask. I hear once and his man's whatever like you get me like.

Speaker 4

I think is that, bro.

Manny

You know, sometimes when it, when I can, when it comes to this whole Public beef and everything's like, bro you know, I don't know your intimate life. Yeah you know, I don't understand what was going on.

Speaker 4

In bedroom.

Manny

I don't know how like guys talk already. So I can't really comment and be on some voice of justice, like I don't know if.

Ini

I'm just fine like bro. I don't really trust without facts.

Manny

Yeah, man, I'm honestly, I feel like sometimes, as much as everyone keeps saying you know, listen to women as the victim, hundred percent listen to them. But also, yeah, listen to them and weigh everything properly. Yeah, you get me, don't listen to them and be like, oh no, you know, let me just give you the name that they say posted something.

Ini

That have face was swollen, that they hit out the brick on her face.

Manny

Yeah, and then she actually had an allergy.

Ini

Yeah, this was an allergy and, like someone, even posted a picture of her slapping guys from.

Manny

Yeah, yeah, bro. I should be like over 40k from that whole shit. But she's all breaded everybody.

Ini

I should bread it all the women realize that people are out here these days like flat out lying. Yeah, man, bro, I'm not saying that things aren't happening out there, like there's nasty shit happening and everyone is protection icky like mobart. Mobart went through a lot of like you know, he posted it out there. We all ignored him. Yeah, but on the other hand, there's people that just wake up in the morning to lie.

Manny

Also madness, bro, like let's try to break the thing, let's try to take advantage bro.

Ini

Yo, when I watch somebody that lies like I sit down just watch them. I'm intrigued by that character.

Manny

See, bro, like I'll be honest with you, yeah me, like in any industry, like bro, outside of corporate, all these other industries, bro, they are crazy.

Ini

Like everybody, is this liar Because I'm fucking scammers, scammers.

Manny

I'm gonna lie to you people lying scum like that shit is natural Social media. I get it like. Every social media sometimes cannot appear like everyone is rational, but deep down within you're all liars and hypocrites. I don't really trust this group mentality. Oh yeah, sue him fucking. Oh yo, bro, you're just your man, you're just your wife.

Ini

Yeah, let's not see what's in your closet right Exactly, bro, you're not coming out to be on show.

Paul

Oh, sue him fucking right and people are not allowed to evolve. It's like if you do something, a couple of years that they go and you say something like oh, why is this, this in the go? Is this not you?

Manny

You can only evolve.

Ini

I love how right now on twitter, because they don't really have that much bandwidth, so they've reduced the amount of tweets that you're you have access to like historically. So there's only so far you can scroll. I love that information barring like the only way you can get my old it is going to use two thousand api if you don't use two thousand api.

Paul

Sorry, I was example, kevin. Hart, that was like oh 10 years ago before, before that Grammy like oh. My son about gay and everything, and someone still brought it up. So rather than to be an issue around 10 years later, yeah, because nothing happens within those 10 years.

Speaker 4

You're just in a freezer, many freezer.

Ini

Like well, people change, I don't anything is this that's what I'm trying to say.

Manny

Like a lot of people act like they're not human. It's just human to change. But I don't understand, like, why people come and talk to you like, oh my god, you could? There's no way. You don't see nobody change everybody. Just they say, no, we don't. We're not boring like you bro like. So that's you know. So I feel like a lot of times people are just very like easy to point fingers and very easy.

Manny

Oh my god, you're, you're this, you're that, but at any day we all have a like we're all horrible and always. That's just. It's Not.

Paul

This is a situation, right it's so crazy that people kept on. Some people now Took what happened in their own life, their own perspective, and now added out to the matter.

Speaker 4

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Paul

Oh, he did this, whatever, whatever they say he did, he did this, he did that, this thing and everything.

Manny

We antony too is like Suspending all like Anthony, but yeah, I don't blame.

Paul

The cops suspended him. But is the cops fault, because the first suspended greenwood and there's no way you suspend one person for doing the other thing. I am and not suspend the other, exactly, exactly so they already kind of tied the hands is a blanket like approach. Yeah, so now anyone is accused of this. Now they probably the primal said the president like yeah, any player gets accused of something, automatically suspended there.

Ini

I mean, I have two sides of that, right. I'm a safety official, yeah, and I feel like that precedents Keeps people safe. Yeah, in a way yeah, at least you all know that is a Accursion, you know that if you are bold enough to come out and talk about your situation, there's instant Um, there's an instant action. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, no this is none. Also this thing about the suspension as like Did not terminate his contract, yeah, I mean yeah, is a first. Okay, get out of the limelight.

Ini

Okay, yeah also be protecting the player true, fair enough.

Paul

Well, girl station took two and that's also just the club to two years. Soccer is a very short career. You, you play from 16 17 if you're lucky to be good. And you end up 35, 36 is Ronaldo. That's pushing this barrier of like oh yeah. Like you can go to 40 yeah. Two years is a big time for growth in soccer. We know that, but that's a big time. I'm sorry, but that's the price and I'm not two years.

Speaker 4

That's the price to pay. You brought up your woman.

Manny

Bro, you are blocking our opinion. Think that you're going to get bro, that's the price to pay.

Ini

I'm sorry, I'm not. Much defense contracts come with. Yeah, you're earning that amount of money.

Manny

Facing company.

Paul

It's just like certain things that happen and like everyone already.

Ini

How do you start protecting men? That's the question I want to ask, because you know, like we know, there's bad apples amongst us. Yeah, 100%, oh yeah and we all want to protect women. Yeah but then how do we like the 20% of women that are causing this? You know?

Manny

See, I don't need the. There's this. They always say justice is blind. Right, yeah, there's a reason why it doesn't have Liberty, can see yeah, like she's blind. So in that case, or justice is blind or ever justice can see, but there's a reason why that is right. So I feel like you should listen to everybody's opinion, assess the situation, but sometimes let's take the human beings out of the conversation. Let's stop talking like we talk about men.

Manny

Women just see good and evil like. I think that's better to like way there is, there is. Is evil to beat up a woman? Is it. And if you man does it as well as evil is true?

Ini

about which do you talk? About the action itself. It's still action itself.

Manny

Let's stop talking about oh, a man did this, a woman Did what was done is the real question.

Ini

I mean, you said last week that double standards are real.

Manny

You want to like.

Ini

Bro, have you seen a man's?

Manny

He can literally break your heart and he was my.

Ini

Stopping a mark and do what it's just like the guy body, the slab, what? Those are the double standards we live in?

Gender, Relationships, and Poverty in Nigeria

Manny

no, but that's wrong. We're wrong.

Paul

One thing I see everyone can stop a man, and a man can react and somewhere I see go. Oh, why did you be demand? Even though the woman slapped you first, I'm not done anything.

Ini

Is right.

Manny

Society.

Ini

Is seen as not.

Manny

That's not true.

Paul

That's not true, a woman can stop a man in public, and it's like Like Calm down. Okay, have you seen a man? Just a woman, and woman just goes.

Ini

Well, I need those to be talking to the bro like splash and splash, because you could kill her on the woman.

Paul

No, it's what I mean. We all, we don't know something public?

Manny

I rest 100%. We all have like our physical capabilities are more exceeds them. I mean like so nice, your mission slaps you. I mean, if you're gonna start like giving a f5, like also that's wild, right. But I'm just saying that like you shouldn't be stopping anybody.

Ini

You.

Manny

Know you're acting for me. Stop thinking that if you do something for someone, whether you get them out from the gutter, oh, you're helping their lives. Bro, you do that shit from your heart. I mean do that shit purely. I only believe in pure intentions. Because now, if you like, oh, I brought you up from the gutter, I raised you, I took your of you, I had the man talking to you. That's kind of fucked up, because if you're doing that, that's cause you wanted to do that. I shouldn't be, because I'm trying to, like you know, leave a stamp in your life and make sure that you can never leave me.

Manny

But, as us, yeah, you can't you don't own anybody, bro, nobody like you. Don't own anybody where you can't hit them like that's Just the truth.

Paul

When I hear guys like oh, I took her out for dinner.

Speaker 4

We'll see fucking do like, why we should not drop.

Manny

I'm expecting fucking do.

Ini

The moment you decide to take off for dinner, like I See like. Like the money was about getting sex, then you clearly communicates at the beginning, bro higher, some fucking escort. I plan on taking you out tonight because Allow this, some country.

Manny

I'm sorry guys, there are no longer as professional. There are no excuses for men.

Paul

All kind of.

Speaker 4

Canada is not enough for you.

Manny

Please let your study permit. I can't hire a school. I mean, this is not going to be cut in sex trade.

Ini

If you read it.

Manny

Bro, whoop like bro, you can't hire a high school. I'm sorry, you can do whatever you want.

Ini

I think it means you cannot be providing the services as a student to a worker.

Manny

Well, first of all, no one's like. I don't know why the government knows what you're doing. You're doing like, stop like we don't need and the government do Nobody says you gotta open up your business and tell, oh yes, sex trade, government of money to buy you a sex trade. I'm setting my business for like bro, come on. Like this is under the table. My guy, like what are we doing?

Ini

This table no more.

Manny

Why is the government getting involved in your?

Ini

pussy or dick. Just think once it's taxes. Now what?

Paul

Still want the money? No, but like they still know, now right, there's some certain things like if you exchange, isn't prostitution, is just the exchanging of goods and services, for sex, for sexual favor. That's the court isn't right. So you can say, oh, I'm doing this. Or if your action is this, technically you're still like, it's like happy endings, right when you go for massage, right, technically you're doing that, but you can still get it under the table and stuff.

Manny

Bro, not for everybody man.

Speaker 4

Everybody pretty privileged too. I'm money privileged.

Paul

Money talks you, but I know the day, man, I don't want shit, anyone.

Manny

Everyone should be pure in the actions, you know.

Ini

Let's just love each other for once, man. Let's love each other purely man like stop all this other, like other shit, like I can't even believe people kill other people, like it's just sounds so like it's long, fam, it's long.

Manny

It's so hard to kill a human being, bro you can't even get away, bro. I'm sorry like I know we're going overtime and everything, but I've just been thinking about you know, this guy that broke out of that UK jail. I escaped. Bro, I read the shit bro they know that he knocked that guy out. He knocked that guy out with like hits, thermal, thermal readings.

Speaker 4

Thermal scanning.

Manny

Thermal scanning bro.

Ini

And the guy was like you cannot escape in this life. Yeah, bro, the guy was shitting around and everywhere he left his dump.

Manny

He was scanning the dump and then we found traces of his DNA. I'm like yo, bro, you're fucked Like this idea of running and escaping and hiding. It's longer, bro. That's longer than anything.

Ini

Bro, this just made me realize how behind we are in Nigeria.

Manny

Oh bro, stop, stop in Nigeria, let's stop Fucking, stop bro.

Ini

Bro, I'm sorry.

Manny

Bro, when I was in uni I already read that Africa is 500 years behind the west In terms of just you know, and human, like extracted from your human, and technology are 500 years behind. So that's long. Let's stop bringing African.

Ini

You know I had like a vision, like a weird, like very vivid, like Vision the other day Of how like Prosperity should work, all these videos that I was seeing about me but the only thing that kept coming up was just how poor.

Manny

He was and he yeah, you see, I got buried.

Ini

He was surrounded by so I treated this the other day in Nigeria and I stand by my word, man A lot of people were kind of upset.

Manny

That's your fucking problem.

Ini

I was like as I said, in Nigeria, you're either poor Wicked or an Olu Odu Like.

Manny

You don't know where you are dumb. I mean, or you know the thing or you're hiding, like you know what I've realized about good people. Good people, good marriages, good relationships, good money you're hiding. You don't have any Money that is enjoying their life. Come out and tell you.

Paul

I enjoy my life.

Manny

Except for Instagram BlastSybot, but a lot of people that are enjoying their life and at the pace of it they're like. So I'm seeing now like poverty in Nigeria.

Ini

Do you know how bad this is? The fact that? Okay, think about. I want you to think. I'm trying to describe why. So right, think about space, space, and they now think about that space filled up with like a bunch of people Standing. So now, the only way somebody gets rich Is from money Flowing to them From someone else.

Manny

So if you're in a space.

Ini

And in like a 10 mile radius there's nobody can make you rich.

Manny

Yeah, bro, but you know, the phrase is like everywhere.

Paul

It's like that's everywhere. It's an app person's income. It's an app person's expenses. Can you start thinking about world?

Ini

like that. Then you will know how difficult it is To bring a country out of poverty.

Manny

You know, I need to have these friends, to have these friends.

Ini

The common person. Like imagine saying that my goal is to ensure that the common man in Nigeria is earning 2 million Naira a year, and that's where like you know, common person earning 2 million. No no, no, 2 million Naira is right now In.

Manny

Canadian what's the minimum?

Speaker 4

wage to begin with? What's the minimum wage to begin with?

Paul

Yes, hope is the minimum wage, bro.

Manny

Hope. Hope is the minimum wage.

Paul

Every time, hope is your minimum wage.

Ini

Imagine a god who, calmed down by himself Go, come and help us redo Nigeria. You don't want to let me pray for Nigeria?

Manny

Hope is the minimum wage, bro.

Ini

People are like People are relieved and died In that state. Nah man, nigeria breaks my heart. I was telling you I feel like it heartbreak Everyday, like a girlfriend. I'm really breaking my heart.

Manny

Let me ask you, bro, I stopped caring about.

Speaker 4

Nigerian information.

Manny

Nigerian news. Couple years ago I was just like this country is never getting better.

Ini

It's never getting better, bro, in our whole country. You need to ensure that when somebody comes out, somebody needs immediate vicinity that can make him wealthy, bro.

Manny

There is, but they are like your boy boy.

Ini

That's what the system is right now. Imagine someone that does not have boy boy system. They are also going to find a man to boy, boy and the thing is like there is no growth in that kind of environment. If there is nobody, if your environment Is not growing, you are also not growing. So people are stagnant and dying in poverty. Poverty has now become like a Nigerian curse no 100%.

Paul

You can see that happening in a lot of countries, like the reason why I know in America they praise the Chinese Community Community and Jewish communities. Whenever they get money, they keep the money in their community.

Ini

Because they lose.

Paul

They support their other people the laundry guys, the community, the bankers, the lawyers, everything so they are constantly keeping their money Within them Before the money eventually goes out.

Ini

It has gone through a lot.

Paul

One thing about the black community was in America. I know this is like the money doesn't stay. A lot of times it leaves the community.

Manny

As anyone asks why. Why does it? Because, bro, I don't want to go into Iran, or you go into Iran? All these comments you are talking about. There is one thing about them Is quality life. Anything you do, there is quality behind it, whether it is product you are making, whether it is who is working in what company.

Manny

Whether it is how they see life and how they see themselves. The reason why I am talking about Nigeria Before I get to the black community in America Is because I started a video about the 1970s civil war and again I keep going back to this imagery when there was a white journalist that was shooting the video Of just basically documenting the civil war and there was an altercation between two Nigerians I don't know if it was Ibo Yoruba, they were just shut less and he had this Nigerian man. He fell on Nigerian man on the floor and bro, the man was not. The white journalist was basically like Are you going to kill him? Let him go and everything. And the guy spoke to this man in proper English. I was like no, we are not going to do anything of that sort. Everything is going to be fine. We are going to take him to the barracks to arrest him.

Manny

He is one of the infidels. By the time he was journalist on the camera. He kicked him into the fucking bush and shot him with his shotgun. I used to think they don't like themselves. They don't like themselves.

Speaker 4

That's it.

Ini

I mean when people say that I know a lot of people say that shit Like oh, black people, no love. To me it sounds a little bit like Self hate or what.

Manny

It's not even self hate, it's legit.

Ini

It doesn't sound genuine to me. It sounds shallow when I hear like Black people, there's no love with Black people.

Paul

Black people's background is like Ridiculous we have to think about it.

Manny

A Black man that likes another Black woman and they are on the same wavelength. It's kind of like a miracle. Let's be honest, that's not even a norm.

Paul

The norm is why do we hate each other? I'm not a believer of that.

Manny

I want Black babies, bro, if they are even like.

Ini

Black as fuck. I want that shit bro.

Manny

Because clearly we are going to be having a world feud With other mixed babies. I want my own babies to be Black as shit.

Ini

Yeah, let it be the dog in the room, bro. How do you get people to love each other? I guess we continue that on the next book.

Paul

That will be our next conversation.

Ini

That's why religion exists.

Manny

I don't want to be on their shit. I want them to be real, authentic, 100%, because before religion happened.

Paul

Before religion happened, there was chaos. Like it was.

Ini

Religion was supposed to bring the love.

Manny

They say Jesus loves Jesus. Why is that nigga loving me? He loves to open up your heart.

Speaker 4

I don't know why. Do you think that's what a?

Ini

man loves to do? I don't know. Don't fight the love, bro. Don't fight the love bro.

Paul

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