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The One About This Season so Far Part 2
In this soccer episode, we talk about the final weeks of the 2023/2024 Premier League season. We cover Arsenal, Manchester City, Real Madrid, and Liverpool, as well as the upcoming summer transfer window.
When I saw people like eating up that oh, javis went on the run of goals and stuff, I'm like y'all are so gullible.
Speaker 2:I like him as a person, though he looks. You know that is what's killing us. He's a great lad, eh.
Speaker 1:Ateta has a crush on that nigga. That's what's killing us. He's so looking, he dress nice. That's why Ateta has gotten lost in the Javis sauce.
Speaker 3:Likes his style likes his face likes his.
Speaker 2:He's a great lad, nah, man.
Speaker 3:Good lads, don't win us cups. It's the weekend calendar.
Speaker 1:No, jesus needs to go. Here's my list of people that need to be offloaded.
Speaker 3:It's just like Jesus. Like how many years ago? No, no, no.
Speaker 1:Jesus Javid Zinchenko.
Speaker 2:Shadapep man Shepet Finesa.
Speaker 1:Like.
Speaker 2:Shep Be wordful, only called Palmer. That I know. Okay, he's doing something. Everybody else Be wordful.
Speaker 1:Yo, did you see that? I'm sure you guys Didn't watch it, probably at work, but like the PK stuff that they were Dragging for yeah, I saw the highlights. Bro, that shit was embarrassing. But like I think the civil war Is going to happen In Chelsea now, it's going to be, it's going to be niggas from now on, see, but I think we're just.
Speaker 2:you know like, I feel like, didn't you?
Speaker 3:see the video that they had, and he said it right, it's like yo front penalty now against United. Yeah, the fake PK to give against United.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm just saying, but like against United was to win 4-3.
Speaker 1:Yeah of you, right like he's looking for confidence right and this is not. This is not the first time he did it, the last game as well, remember. He tried to get the pen as well, and you're already on the hat trick. Come on, you've already scored a hat trick already. Okay, I get that. So now what happens? When like he comes down on form and everyone.
Speaker 2:Someone else needs to yeah like think about it, say you, he's just like you're the penalty taker, we're not the one that's coming, but not to you. Tell me you need confidence. I better be nice with you. Nah, okay, for example, like you need the whole team to have confidence nah.
Speaker 3:Bruno did it because, like there was a time we got a PK.
Speaker 1:Bruno could easily score the PK, but he gave it to he gave it to Rashford because Rashford needed that goal and confidence so he scored, he gave him some confidence.
Speaker 3:But Bruno is the main PK, pk taker regularly. He's not a striker Palma is not a striker Palma is a striker.
Speaker 1:Fuck Palma man, like that shit was, that shit was bad.
Speaker 3:I get it from both ways, like okay, cool, you are the PK. No, no, no, fuck the NTV.
Speaker 2:Team Palma bro.
Speaker 3:No, like I get, I get it from From both perspectives. He didn't fight, he didn't do it false, he let the captain, he just let them.
Speaker 1:Let the guy do it, you go, do your thing. Big ups to Jackson, though I'm like Yo. Big up what Jackson tried to grab the ball. He was trying to help, nani, but he didn't want the pen. He didn't want the pen, he was just trying. You just give it to this guy though.
Speaker 2:Nani, if you're a man of yourself, stop finding the pen Out of the score.
Speaker 1:You find it Okay, but in that moment he thought that he was the one that got the pen. Because even the last one, right, Like he was the one that conceived the pen and this guy still took it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, this guy still took it right, Palmer still took it.
Speaker 2:He tripped on himself and he still gave it to Pique. See, think about it. The coach has already decided who the penalty.
Speaker 1:He's like sticker.
Speaker 2:There's a number one but there's others I know. See, get it. But think about when Haaland did that same thing too, when he gave it to Guna and Guna missed Pep was furious.
Speaker 1:It's like bro and I guess you're the guy.
Speaker 2:Why are you trying to be nice?
Speaker 1:recently when Sterling bounced Palma off that pin. I don't know, I can't remember what game. It was yeah, not me guys, I'm not one of Sterling missed yeah. So I guess since, that Palma is like Fuck that shit.
Speaker 3:Palma is number one, but Palma didn't drag With them, though.
Speaker 1:No, of course he didn't drag. He just held the ball Ball like I don't know. I thought that was Kind of a man At that point no.
Speaker 2:To be honest, I feel like I was going to miss it, because they're trying To throw him off too.
Speaker 3:At that point. Yeah, that was because there's no way Everton was useless.
Speaker 2:But you're trying to get high goals.
Speaker 3:Cora, I was watching the game. Right, for some reason I had time to watch the game. The next thing I'm like okay, give me some drama. It wasn't even 20 minutes. There were already like two or three goals in or three goals up right there.
Speaker 1:I was like what's this Everton is?
Speaker 2:so bad to watch? Shout out to Palmer.
Speaker 1:He's giving Like. He has this I don't know since, like the middle of the season, he has this like Villain. He has this villain. Look To him these days Like Almost, like he's trying To like show Pep. He is trying to show Pep Because I think about it.
Speaker 2:Pep believes in style Pep To me. I've watched Palmer play Like a 14, but this guy is actually Good in my city, but it's like. Pep is like. I can't give two youngsters yeah like pep said, for two years he didn't ask him to leave because he believes in his ability and that bro shout out to. If you believe in your ability, bro like they're both firing.
Speaker 1:I guess it's good for england.
Speaker 3:Let's see what I think, what, what folding brings, that is, folding brings that energy bro, like crazy ball carrier, there's nobody that carries that ball.
Speaker 1:Like that is literally like crazy. So when I watch like some people that have watched Messi, feel like that's the way football should be played. You know, carry the ball, dribble run shoot right and I feel like Foden has that going for himself.
Speaker 2:He can do both.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you know me, I'm not really that kind of player, even in real life, so I'm kind of biased. I don't really think that's all there is to football, right.
Speaker 3:I don't necessarily think Foden is crazy dribbler, because when he plays for England he plays. If they remove Saka and they put him at the left, he struggles the most. When he's performing the best in man City is when he has people around him. That could do the third man run, carry people or play with, like play with people around themselves.
Speaker 1:That's where it was yeah, I also think that, like that, pep pretty much plays like three camps these days. I don't know if you've noticed he did that against. He did that against Madrid. I saw only Rodri at the six.
Speaker 2:I'm like he trying to ultra attack. I'm saying poor Rodri. That's why Rodji got arrested on the weekend.
Speaker 3:He got to work hard. This guy got arrested. What do you mean? He got arrested. He arrested Roji on the weekend. Which weekend?
Speaker 2:Because he played a game today now, no, last weekend, that was the very first time man City won a game, apparently without Roji, so they've never in a while won a game?
Speaker 3:Yeah, they haven't, because when they got injured they just said it. So yeah. Stair chopping L's man.
Speaker 1:This nigga will put De Bruyne on. He'll put Foden and maybe like what, Bob or no?
Speaker 3:No, no, no, the other guy will put.
Speaker 2:Alvarez.
Speaker 3:Alvarez or Silva.
Speaker 2:Bro, three people, and they're all running around trying to trick you, Bro, like chill man.
Speaker 1:That's just like crackhead.
Speaker 2:But you don't know, don Carlo. You're a different breed. This ain't no Mikelo bro, it's Don Carlo this is Don Carlo, bro. Like for real like.
Speaker 3:I'm still. I'm wondering how long it's gonna last how long?
Speaker 2:what's gonna last, it's gonna last. He just has to retire now, because what?
Speaker 3:next yeah, that's what I'm trying, like the energy to keep on going every single year. He's probably an alcohol, no, I think, but it's easy for him because he's refreshing the squad yeah, he has the money and you can tell
Speaker 2:like if you play like I don't know if you play football manager when you sign a new player, you'll be like I can make this guy, you just have that new fire. If it's the same team, year on, year on, you get that raw.
Speaker 3:Bernardo Silva is leaving right now.
Speaker 1:He's probably going to let go of Grealish.
Speaker 2:And they're probably get Paqueta from West Ham. That would be a new vibe.
Speaker 1:He would start thinking in his head, I thought you said he was going to get this guy from Newcastle, bruno he has that on Bruno Bruno Grimer.
Speaker 3:It depends on how many leaves, but Paqueta was like last summer right.
Speaker 1:Bob, no, I've been hearing the Paqueta 100M.
Speaker 3:He's going to come back it's going to bring more money, because Paqueta get him for 80 mil and West Ham was like nah, we're not selling.
Speaker 1:It has to be 100 mil. Who do you guys sign, bruno or Paqueta for City? You can't sign both.
Speaker 3:Are you a City fan now? What Are you a City fan now, Bro?
Speaker 2:he said that's my opinion, bro. I'm not a City fan, okay, because the way you went.
Speaker 3:Who do you sign? Personally, I would say Paqueta. Just how Pep plays. I'm assuming Roji is going to stay, roji is going to stay there, roji is going to be number one, pep doing those cams.
Speaker 2:Put Paqueta in that mix, bro.
Speaker 3:They just be dancing around. They be dancing around.
Speaker 2:And Haaland can do whatever he does up front and dealing for goals.
Speaker 3:Because even in Brazil Paqueta plays over Bruno, I see, because it plays over Bruno, I see because it says that Paqueta understands Neymar.
Speaker 2:I can remember like it says you see, neymar, do that one touch thing, yeah, he made Paqueta like just keep going it's like they're dancing like and it's like that sound.
Speaker 1:I like Bruno's work rates man his work rates is fucking crazy, like he doesn't let off and I feel like he's good deeper so probably wouldn't really want him as a calm then no, I guess.
Speaker 2:So bruno is more like getting pressing type team. Yeah, like, just like, can you tempo, can you slow it down, can you make it faster? And I make it faster, I make it faster, I just I, just I just like annoying players, you know he always wants to win. You know, he has that, he has this personal.
Speaker 3:I do give you that little dance I think it does suit city play, though, because Because right now in West Ham it's their spark Whenever he's not playing they rely on this guy Bowen to run and do things.
Speaker 2:This is old man.
Speaker 3:But when Paqueta plays, he's the player.
Speaker 2:He's that Brazilian player.
Speaker 3:Out of nothing. I don't remember one match I was watching. Out of nothing. He just did this and created space and pass the ball and he's caught.
Speaker 2:He's very like yeah, don't make money off him.
Speaker 3:I understand why West Ham was like nah, they're gonna do another Rice situation again.
Speaker 2:He better than Rice. I don't know about them relax next round Rice are big dogs and relax.
Speaker 1:Little fish were caught out in the sea relax the only thing I don't like now is like a lot of people seem to think that like rice is a good six, like he's good on the attack, like going forward and I don't really agree with that. Like I feel like we signed him to be the best dm in the league. Like why don't you just play him as a dm?
Speaker 2:and you think he's better than sharmany, though in dm.
Speaker 1:Well, I've already watched how many a lot because I don't watch spanish.
Speaker 2:You should like you. You understand what you're missing. Be like bro, pay 100 million for this guy.
Speaker 1:I know Tiamen is a really good player, but he doesn't always play alone as a DM like they always play 2-6.
Speaker 3:He's never won 600 not currently Madrid.
Speaker 1:Now, currently Madrid is playing Diamond, but Monk is still coming to control because all the games still but think about it Cruz's job is not retrieving ball. Cruz's job is I need to switch it, so.
Speaker 3:Charmaine got to get a bash. Get it to.
Speaker 2:Cruz and Cruz, that's it. So it's like Cruz is not running around and doing. He's not the young blood.
Speaker 3:But still, I'm just like he's not that. Like the way Rice, for example, I think Arsenal uses six alone, or you guys just do the action.
Speaker 1:See, right now, that's my problem with Ateta, Like he's in too many minds. He's in too many minds, right? So when he plays Rice and Jorginho, everyone was like whoa, this was like. This was the chemistry that we didn't see coming.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean Because either of them can stay back.
Speaker 1:Jorginho can stay and then you know he's allowing Rice to do that even though I don't like it, but I'm like okay okay, I see what you're doing right, and then sometimes Rice will just go stay.
Speaker 1:Jorginho will be able to play, that you know, but I just feel like if he just let Rice focus on being the best DM in the league, a lot of problems we'll not be having right now. Even the commentator was saying today that, oh, he feels like Rice is a like. Rice has more to offer than just sitting in front of the defenders. They always say that, and I'm like that is such a problematic mindset to have about football For you to say that the better you are, the higher up the pitch you should play.
Speaker 3:That's so dumb. But I think that stuff always affects players, right? Because I go back to Pogba right, Pogba could do DM, could do middle, could do all this, and players that not they don't tailor, settle down one position. They struggle because they always move them around and they never own one position.
Speaker 1:They go like this is me, this is my position and that should have affected other players that should have had their life this season. Fabio Vieira no, honestly speaking like bro, like Vieira is a baller. I said this last year. I'm saying it again. Maybe finally next year. I think I'll give this boy a chance. Or like why are we wasting Fabio for Havertz?
Speaker 2:like I don't get this Havertz thing you face 65 million on the current case and you're like, bro, you're going to put 65 million on the bench that has to be the only explanation.
Speaker 1:He has to be getting some external pressure, or, like I tweeted the other day, havertz is probably sucking this guy.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, to be honest give Havertz some slack to me intelligent player?
Speaker 3:Not really.
Speaker 2:No, trust me For what like Like for his physical like Not necessarily physical. It's more like knowing when you give him that free roll he picks up pocket of space. I remember when he played against Liverpool Like I'd never seen Konate.
Speaker 1:Like he was making no drama. I'd never seen Konate like rattle before. I'm like the reason number 9. No, no, no, javid was the number 9. He was the target man, but like.
Speaker 2:I've seen Nunes play up front. Nunes, the ball don't stick, ball stick with Javid. He secures the ball and then he just passes it real quick. But the point of the matter is from the defender behind. He's not using all this.
Speaker 1:Oh, I but here's the problem with Premier League. Right, this is the issue I had with Giroud. Like this is literally an Olivier Giroud situation all over again. Like at some point the pace of Premier League went beyond Giroud.
Speaker 2:Like he could not, he couldn't keep up he couldn't keep up.
Speaker 1:He couldn't keep the ball and Giroud does not stay, resulting to one the ball. They'll pass it to him. He'll flick it, he'll pass it. The only thing that Javid does a little bit better is Javid is holding the ball like two seconds longer than. Giroud used to but to me that's not enough. Like you should see a Premier League striker in today, like bro, it's a bad example. But see this Crystal Palace striker that they are relying on right now. What's his name? Mateta Mateta, bro, that guy is putting in work.
Speaker 2:I don't know if it's luck, but he's been, he's been banging, he's putting in work, but it doesn't really his output, like on goals is not the best, but like overall, because he does not have the players that we have at Arsenal overall everything, the amount of work that Mateta is having to put in right there.
Speaker 1:If like and compare both players, then how much more talent does Mateta have?
Speaker 3:okay, come on now, do you?
Speaker 1:think, have it to the way, but do you think matita is a bigger player than having?
Speaker 3:no, I've always been on my table exactly.
Speaker 1:But I still feel like to me, I'll still like, I'll still take what matita is doing right now I feel like all of this is stems down to the coach I think what did belliam say and ask him about?
Speaker 2:so let's see, he says he creates a system where everyone's free to express himself.
Speaker 3:I don't know if you know this.
Speaker 2:Madrid had this problem where Vinicius plays left, rodrigo plays right, rodrigo is suffering on the right why, because he's not good on the right, like he's better coming in off the left, shooting in, and he goes in. And you see Rodrigo. Every single time people complain Rodrigo is not scoring, he's not his best. What happened when Vinicius got injured? He started playing left. He was scoring. Vinicius got back and so it's like I can't move him back to the right anymore because it's going to get him affected. What did they do against City? Vinicius was number nine, but we already got him left, right, they don't play left.
Speaker 3:They don't use wingers now, but that's just on.
Speaker 2:The football is like Switch up, but that's just on, like you know what.
Speaker 3:I'm saying Football is starting right now.
Speaker 1:The line up is not what Line up is just to put Line up is just to put it. No, the people that, the people that get the line up, don't know what they Cause, even how they play.
Speaker 3:Jude.
Speaker 2:Belliam is like Line up is just Advanced nine, but not necessarily nine.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Line up is just to but it, because recently, right now, jude Balliol's role has changed. Jude Balliol is not like he's come advanced now, but he's not really running into the box like he was no Jude Balliol.
Speaker 3:He's not running into the box like before.
Speaker 2:That's why he's not getting them goals and people's like, oh, why is he not scoring?
Speaker 2:well, his role has changed to let the other two guys get the chance but, his job is never to score, but end of the goal because he was allowed that license to keep going forward now, and so it is. We need you as an engine in the middle, recovering but recycling the ball, laying the guard, maybe Valverde on the right or Carvajal on the right, and then we'll have Rodrigo, and they can't cross because they don't do all this cross or not because there's no, brian Diaz comes in.
Speaker 3:Brian Diaz loves to hug the right hand side.
Speaker 2:So you, so that you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Philly is the one place that loves to hug the left hand side, but Rodrigo is a Free range.
Speaker 2:He's playing 10 off the left, because Rodrigo Before when he plays they put him on the right Comes in From the right but he's not shooting With that left. No, he doesn't, as Rodrigo the ball just the way he hits the ball boom in there and it just seems it's like he just finesses it in clean.
Speaker 3:So, as far as he understands, he's limiting Rodrigo off the right because he's getting a lot of stick and it's like that's why I really want Angelotti to Arsenal.
Speaker 2:So managers doesn't have x factor. That's one thing that doesn't have. Like, yes, there's a system, but like which? If they give them free rolls, do you trust martin, I need to have the football knowledge you even trust. I gotta have the football knowledge you understand basic.
Speaker 1:Here's where I think ancelotti would be better than um, first and foremost, your squad planning like these problems that you're having is better now.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:But Arsenal like if you go to Arsenal, it's the Arsenal squad.
Speaker 1:Exactly Like Ateta's, mistakes are not when the season starts.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's who he signs and who he thinks I was just explaining to you before you came in, like Ateta's perspective of where players are is a little bit.
Speaker 1:It's not pure Like, how do you? We like we didn't know that Pep being Zinchenko and Jesus, but then you brought them to our squad based on what, like you thought they were you thought Pep was slow and you thought Pep didn't know.
Speaker 2:Pep, are you crazy?
Speaker 1:So now we've seen them almost two seasons now and we are just like what the fuck?
Speaker 2:Pep was probably Crying, all those chants I mean.
Speaker 1:Jesse's missing those chants.
Speaker 2:He's like you see what I'm saying, he's bleeding inside.
Speaker 3:Even to the point that, brazil, they use Jesse as a striker, they use Richarlison as a striker.
Speaker 1:So there's a red flag In the way Atleta sees players. You know what I mean. For instance, okay, let's not talk About Javier, because clearly in mid he played him in mid against villa, why the last time he did that was like weeks ago. Everyone was managing the fact that, okay, we found something that kind of worked point up front yeah and then out of nowhere takes him back to me.
Speaker 2:I think maybe you want to end you in the middle yeah because villa's counter attack right. So yeah, like I don't need you up front so what's the?
Speaker 3:the achievable number nine that you guys can get achievable, not dreaming that you can actually get.
Speaker 2:But Isak for me is my favorite.
Speaker 3:Number nine right now he's my favorite number nine bro he's hungry, plus like then he's finishing.
Speaker 1:I'm like, damn bro, he's so like that's kind of what do you think my one is?
Speaker 3:do you think Newcastle would let him go?
Speaker 1:and now that you're saying City might not get Bruno, then maybe Arsenal will get Isak look what they're doing to Manchester. United the Hans Schwarz guy they're trying to sign.
Speaker 2:Everyone done has already.
Speaker 3:Director of football has his transfer fee, bro they were saying 20 M's for sign and he has already like he has already quit. He's a guardian.
Speaker 1:I'm not working if Isak cannot come, I'll still take Ivan Toni, especially now that his price is like way down based on all the drama around him and also his contract is ending soon. I'll still take Ivan.
Speaker 2:Tony, but you know the thing, by the way, sometimes there's things that people don't think about. There's a reason why these clubs are not going after Ivan Tony.
Speaker 1:Why.
Speaker 2:I don't know, because when you think about signing a player, I remember Liverpool youth team they talk about we could say a talent, but they do a lot of background check yeah, does he have the right behaviour.
Speaker 1:I heard that. Does he think he's better? Does he think the?
Speaker 2:dynamics. Does he think he's better than the rest? He's on the crease most clubs.
Speaker 1:It's not good to sign another Aubameyang that he cannot control. We don't care about your time.
Speaker 2:If you feel like we can't control you, they sign managers that will take the risk With like bad eggs and be like I can keep him together. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:I don't know how else To explain these things, like the problems Ateta have Are not on the pitch. They are all the things we don't see. His squad planning, his man management these are things is lacking severely he's young though we started the season.
Speaker 2:He's young though he gave. I was just telling this guy he gave Nketiah a bumper contract. Nketiah signed a new deal.
Speaker 1:No like at the beginning of the season, oh yeah, cause this guy had to go gave him 14, made him captain in one game. What do you think Nketiah was?
Speaker 2:hyping you guys up in precision he was trying to. I'm like, if Ngeja can Bamboozle you like this, didn't he give Odegaard, not Odegaard Smirotan? I remember when he was Like a big thing he gave.
Speaker 3:Smirotan.
Speaker 1:What's up with Smirotan? I thought Ngeja 14 it was the future.
Speaker 3:What was with him?
Speaker 2:They were calling Smirotan A foodie's name. Such disrespect Like. Wilshere, and if you're not eating, Like Bukayo, like I said what's your diet, man Bro?
Speaker 1:like see, bukayo is another issue I had with Ateta. I remember we had a podcast at the beginning of the season and I kept asking you guys, what's the plan for Bukayo Saka? Is he going to play the whole season? I told you, if Bukayo gets injured, we're done.
Speaker 2:Luckily for us, he didn't get injured happened, he got burnt out you could tell like yeah, and you could tell, because saga to me he's not a venetian junior where it's like they have, like elite, no mentality to sit down for a while there to like to recover that competition.
Speaker 1:You need that inner drive sometimes you need that inner drive like even if you say you don't like pp, you can't control him. Okay, mcunious, loan mcunious to brazil.
Speaker 2:I don't you trust Marquinhos to Brazil there's a reason why he's in Brazil, though like they don't trust it. I know Euro. I know Euro. Okay, what was the other option? Remember, like?
Speaker 1:Pepe Marquinhos and Sego Junior all have the Saka profile. They're left footed players that play on the right.
Speaker 2:This guy asked all three of them poor Saka because the workload is like and it's like 20 euros and euros is coming up soon and you want to play for England.
Speaker 1:That's the running joke every time Saka is limping a manager that is leading Arsenal that does not think about this thing. To me, when I say oh, people say oh, ateta, ateta, because we've been winning. But then, when I give them all these reasons, they think they're not as important. Every week, every week, not knowing that it's not sustainable to play a player like that.
Speaker 2:He needs ideas, especially when things are not going well for you. You need to rest a little bit and he's young bro.
Speaker 1:Let me tell you something about Saka Saka's game. I don't know who trained him that way. Saka is very injury averse. Like he does not do shit that puts his body at risk, he does not even sack him.
Speaker 2:You have one life to live, though.
Speaker 1:Come on, you have one life to live, though that is my best part of that guy. And people again don't see that Like you see him, he doesn't do 50-50 tackles.
Speaker 2:He misses the ball. Salah does that same thing too. He just comes out of it.
Speaker 3:Calm down come your way. I think you have to be. Your other, output has to be so good that the team is willing to go okay, cool, we're fine with you not doing that.
Speaker 1:I mean he put in work to see nice output was like he must have that too, they are scoring right.
Speaker 3:So, like the team, they can, they can go, because I know that's something with ronaldo. When I was in manu back then it was not the second time, the first time, the first time in ferguson they were like, okay, cool, we'll you, because we know that you are going to be creative and carry us. We'll let you just do this and then everyone else will do the grind.
Speaker 2:Even Van Persie too At some point. He stopped. He stopped running around, just gave me the ball close to the ball. So I put that in the net and Ben Weiss is putting in work behind Saka.
Speaker 1:So you can see there's a lot of stuff that Sakai is able to just kind of like manage. But I don't know. Just not having somebody, even if okay, the fact that we have no, okay. I asked, okay, what was his plan? One day I saw him try Vieira on the right. That didn't go so well. Vieira is not that fast now, man, and you guys play with pace. It didn't go so well like okay what about this, uh, this boy um reese which is no sir right.
Speaker 3:He can't use it, doesn't have any left foot on him, it's crazy like you can't you talk sometimes or see your your tweets on x it can make you seem like you guys are like eight, nine I'm no offense.
Speaker 1:It's like, oh, because we're winning, I shouldn shouldn't point out the issues, right.
Speaker 3:It's just like it looks like you guys are doing well. Yeah but you guys are doing well. But when sometimes you talk, it sounds like you guys are not doing very well.
Speaker 1:Because, if you think about it, we're not doing very well Like this is a trophy.
Speaker 2:Personally to me, though, with investment and returns, I thought he won his first trophy without the squad right with the deadbeat.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he won his first trophy with the deadbeat guy and since then he then came with his own ideas and his own squad and to be honest, Arsenal back.
Speaker 2:There were playing some exciting football and actually right now people talking about his boring what did. Thomas Frank say. He said yeah, he watched the game. Same style of play against City boring.
Speaker 3:There was no, there was no, there was no X-Factor. They were fighting against each other.
Speaker 1:What happened was back the team he got from Emery. There were a lot of strong individuals. We had a very individualistic team and Ateta did not like that completely break that up and take us now back to this whole team experience. But the problem, we're having that whole team experience, like you said, now we have no x factor you need that x factor like you get, I mean now. Now I can tell you how asana is going to pass the ball man you know, you know who they're going to be looking for.
Speaker 1:I know our passing I know our passing phases, like Like I know, and once people lock down Bukayo, like once they lock down Odegaard beside him bro, it's done. Martinelli's form has left eluded us since, like yeah, it's Tristana.
Speaker 2:Tristana's been trying though.
Speaker 3:But like that's one thing I've noticed with new players coming to Premier League or new manager style when, or new manager style when, when they haven't figured you out yet, you would have any time of your life primarily like last season. Saka and Martinelli were on on clouds but as soon as they figured okay, oh, this is what we had the summer.
Speaker 2:We had the summer to watch those videos back now it's like it's.
Speaker 1:I kept on telling you guys like this is probably the farthest Ateta can take us Interesting. No, it is.
Speaker 2:I thought, arsenal, just do you need to do what? Like I get it. Like Pep, he signs a young player, but he signs players that are ready. I look at this time he had that Matununis guy.
Speaker 1:Okay, he's still better than him, who knows he, but I mean look at United Like remember when we, at the beginning of the season, we caught a glimpse of Kobe Manu, like we just we instantly knew they closed him out.
Speaker 2:But the moment he ran out he'd been closed off though. Two man on Manu. Like everyone, is they catching on now, but even at that, he's like he's, it's a baller.
Speaker 1:I'll be honest with you. He's still influencing games. He's still influencing games. Obviously, as a CM, if you're playing in the middle of the park, the more people know about you, the less you're influencing. It's going to be yeah, you're going to look as if you're not doing much, boy, he's still working hard.
Speaker 3:That guy's a defensive walker. He's still yeah, that's one thing. He's clogging holes at United that have been struggling with for years His energy legs, because I remember it's like gone.
Speaker 1:Some of those tacos are this small boy put in and you?
Speaker 2:know he's a big job. He's 19. He just started 19 yesterday, so it's like that that, that intelligence is like but that's what?
Speaker 3:like um, older players are telling him. Now it's like okay, once you have your first season right people haven't figured you out yet, you're a wild card but your next season they're gonna. They're gonna figure it.
Speaker 2:So now it's up to you to come up with different stuff in your game to be able to, but for me it's still on the manager, though for me personally it's still on the manager, I think that, and the player too, it's still on the manager right now, people that parents that invested a lot of money. I saw tweets though. I saw tweets saying, like Bro, a lot of Arsenal Young stars, ateta, cut them, especially FA Cup, fa Cup. You don't even give them Two minutes, five minutes. You don't even give the ones that You're winning games, the ones that you've even seen. That Ateta is not playing.
Speaker 1:They're the ones that Even made it.
Speaker 3:Made it to the squad, bro, there are.
Speaker 1:Youth players that Ateta cuts. Geez them out like, sold them. Let them go, not renew their contract. Didn't offer them like professional contracts like no. Arsenal is seen as a dead end youth club there's no point going there the opposite of what Chelsea is giving more.
Speaker 2:Chelsea is giving more debuts than it's only.
Speaker 1:It's only one guy that scored Chelsea's fifth goal.
Speaker 3:Yeah it's only inevitable that's one thing, that's one big positive thing for Eric in Manchester United right now.
Speaker 1:It's like he gives youngsters chances a lot, and when he pays off, he pays off.
Speaker 3:He pays off and it's like, oh, he saved up now Kobe Mane's profile. That saved us like 80 million. We don't need that. We need another six to support him.
Speaker 2:That legs but we can save up and we even have left backs.
Speaker 3:We have some like man coming players.
Speaker 2:That is embedded and, to be honest, if you don't play them you would never like. No, this was the season sego should have gotten a chance.
Speaker 1:Forget macunos, forget pp. That's a good junior guy, bro. I literally just saw there was a goal that um arsenal under 21 scored and it looked like it was them, odegaard, that were playing but anything.
Speaker 2:By this way, people upset overseas. If we're in Madrid, we know Madrid is harder. This shit has weight. They feel like it's Arsenal bro, like we should be able to get in. You know what I'm saying? We should at least smell the bench, be in the game, but like it just sucks, man.
Speaker 1:And my biggest problem, dude my final thoughts. The reason why I feel like the fact that we're winning games does not necessarily mean much is that like it doesn't change the fact that Arsenal has been winning for 20 years, the fact that this is the start of your own career and you've been waiting for a major trophy for like what 3-4 years. Niggas like us have been waiting for 20 years they've been here.
Speaker 2:They're the FA.
Speaker 3:The fact that it's new for you doesn't mean it's new for us, like buddy, no, fair enough, the clock is running out.
Speaker 1:Bro, it's running out, man. People are dying every day.
Speaker 2:I'm asking all my kids this season, now we have less than seven games to go.
Speaker 3:Who do we think?
Speaker 2:Manchester City, man, manchester City, manchester City, non-stop.
Speaker 3:I guess they have a better run compared to Arsenal has United.
Speaker 2:I don't even say run you. Look at the caliber of players and the mentality they have Arsenal players are checked out. I was watching the Wolves game today bro they are checked out.
Speaker 1:Man trust me like Ben.
Speaker 2:White, all those guys, they are checked out, they are done, their season is done the Bayern game actually screwed up, because I feel like Arsenal, when they got Bayern they were so happy, thinking I'd rather get Bayern to Madrid or even City, so they were happy that this was the easier route to get to that. And for Bayern to beat you it's like, damn like you could just see all the inexperience from.
Speaker 1:We lost that tie from the arrow that our goalie was his name raya.
Speaker 3:That king sat down before. I don't understand why he was. I don't know. Did you see where he?
Speaker 1:came. He came to the front and then gabriel panicked and then he just passed the ball. Next thing that was when nabri was in a bridge. That's called the first goal it's my first leg first leg. Yeah, yeah, that was when we lost the time.
Speaker 2:It was a weird like yes that moment was even.
Speaker 3:Was it PK? I thought PK was the first goal the second goal. It was the first goal, it was the first goal that they made, an error.
Speaker 2:Hurricane was just the second goal. The second goal was to get.
Speaker 1:Hurricane, but like that was the moment where we lost the tie we gave them the goal, literally, gabriel, if you see that your goalie is tripping just click one of the.
Speaker 3:Garberos is like the weak link. I'm not saying he's a bad player, it's just like after the two of them.
Speaker 1:Saliba is like the left back is our weak. We don't have anybody. I mean, like your CB, the partnership Saliba and Garberos Sheiky Garberos is back bro like he had like a good season up until started saying we're going to win the league and my guy just started tweaking hard it can't handle the pressure it can't handle the pressure, it's hard think about it, though it's like, it's easy on paper to say like that's why I say City is going to win it, because it's like they've been there, they've done
Speaker 1:it and sometimes psyche is is way keeps you going, especially when you have options like it also helps when, like you say, gabriel goes to the building.
Speaker 2:Who are?
Speaker 1:we going to play.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's true, I'm going to play and you can also look at your manager. And you can look at your manager. You can see that, oh, I'm playing for people. You guys are always fresh.
Speaker 2:I'm like I watch a game. It's like I can't just not play and I'm like oh, stones is playing diaz is not playing. I'm'm like Stones is playing, diaz is not playing. I'm seeing Cabo go. I'm like bro, everyone, just Ake is playing. I was like this guy has the whole Avengers team.
Speaker 3:It's still caught up to them, though it's still caught up to them the game against Chelsea today.
Speaker 2:We're recording on whatever the FA Cup against man.
Speaker 3:City versus Chelsea. You could see that they were tired.
Speaker 2:They played extra time. Though they had to be tired, it still caught up with them. That's different.
Speaker 3:It still caught up with them and Chelsea had them for the taking. But Jackson didn't just take chances. Tomorrow, Madrid are playing.
Speaker 2:Barcelona. We know Barcelona have a higher chance of winning that game Because it's like extra time for boys.
Speaker 3:They went to the limit, it was like it was livid today, it was like why didn't you guys give us?
Speaker 2:because United is playing tomorrow why didn't you just push it to Sunday?
Speaker 3:why not them play on Sunday?
Speaker 2:they'd be free. It's true, though, because La Liga moves games to Madrid, but I think Premier League needs to request for it and La Liga gives you Premier League. Even if you request, they tell you. They tell you, go somewhere go somewhere obviously there's TV rights, like, but still that TV stuff is heavy but don't you want your team and your country to be in the best of advantage you might have, like champion league games?
Speaker 1:money talks, it's not about like people in the UK don't.
Speaker 3:They don't have access to that shit on TV. So it's not about that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're worried about the money from offshores yeah, true out of their country money talks yo.
Speaker 2:That's why it affects english teams in europe, though they're playing three times more games and they get to europe and again.
Speaker 3:So that's what's affecting liverpool?
Speaker 1:so what exactly is affecting liverpool? I think you guys are just panicked. Klopp is tired. I think he's steady from now.
Speaker 2:United, no, no, no, not really that you can feel like he's taking him out when I saw that loss against what's it called Crystal Palace and usually Klopp. Usually after every loss he's always like energetic.
Speaker 3:I saw some you know coming up with excuses. The pitch is terrible.
Speaker 2:None of my excuses, but like he says, he finds good things to hype about and Holly said it was just I'm tired, I have to look at it again. You could just see it was not optimistic.
Speaker 1:It was not saying you guys wasted chances in that game like too many chances. I was like these guys don't want to.
Speaker 3:They don't want to. They don't want to win.
Speaker 1:Salah. I don't know what's going on with Salah.
Speaker 2:These last few days. Saudi better come back, see the chance he missed.
Speaker 3:He's going to be one against Atalanta.
Speaker 1:I was like what.
Speaker 2:Salah is going to finish that he's in his money. Era that time Salah is going to Saudi, saudi, next day. We're cashing Salah, even Diaz, the Barcelona, psg can come grab him.
Speaker 3:We're getting the whole, that's going to be a big issue. Well, you guys just no.
Speaker 1:Trust me, you guys just rebranded. Trust me, we have.
Speaker 2:Michael Edwards. The problem with Liverpool having is structure.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:When Edwards and everyone left. Klopp was involved in everything and the reason why those guys were leaving because a lot of guys are coming back now I don't reading the news a lot of people, loan managers, back Edwards back when Klopp was there. Klopp wanted to do everything his own way and they were nodding heads because even back in the day they were talking about, klopp wanted what's? That guy that played in Dortmund, brandt, julian Brandt. Yeah, edwards wanted Salah, but Edwards was like we're getting Salah bro you do what you do.
Speaker 3:You do what you want, you do what you want, and it was a good decision.
Speaker 2:They go with like Analytics, like Edward was like. We don't want to give New contract to Milner and Hendo.
Speaker 1:They've won for us.
Speaker 2:We should keep them here. And Edward was like we can't get money from them, get them out now. Because if you look at, pep Fernando left In a good grace we kept these guys here that they became villains after they've done good. You keep them for too long. Look at even Madrid right now. Nacho says he's leaving at the end of the season. Cool, leave on the high, but that's not.
Speaker 3:That's not the club.
Speaker 2:Players wanting to leave is different from club forcing you out but they know, they know they have to leave because Florentino Perez didn't want to offer Nacho a contract, but Nacho turned it down, said he wanted to leave, but he knows he wants to leave, because he knows If you stay, too long.
Speaker 3:What about money?
Speaker 2:Nothing about money.
Speaker 3:He says to himself If you stay too long, he says he doesn't want to play Against Madrid Like Asa Mungu Win now, because I feel like Madrid is probably a poor example, because those players they play, they have like a different mentality, but just like live on the high.
Speaker 2:That's what the madrid stars remember me as. Don't stay too long and become like I don't know, like could you rule or do that?
Speaker 3:they forget yeah, all the good things you've done, yeah and they just remember the last two secrets people are sending buyers.
Speaker 2:People are sure my same thing with john henderson, like if edward was still there, that new contract he got for actually three years. Don't put it out like bro, you're not getting a new, but club was. That's when the human aspect the human aspect.
Speaker 3:You human aspect Comes in. You do have to balance that Right, because you also have to Tell your players Like, if you do hard for me and you win, I still got your back To keep it. Shoot that boy, but think about it. If you want to be, you got to balance it. If you want to have A winning mentality, you have to understand.
Speaker 2:It's. Look at Pep Emotionally Got to stay out of this stuff Like you good with me.
Speaker 3:Pep has not been longer In the club now.
Speaker 2:But look at Pep's squad Since he started Pep's squad. Right now I'm like Liverpool. Right now I'm seeing like we still got like Just last year. We just got Fabio out, we just got Muna out last year. Muna should have Muna should have been gone Like yes.
Speaker 3:But it was very he affected their growth?
Speaker 2:yes, because young players have come up.
Speaker 1:This is their midfield now it's still just it's still gelling like. Shobu Sly Endu. All these guys, all these new guys, you shouldn't get a new midfield all at once, exactly.
Speaker 3:You can't do that you can't just change and let's play and leave but, that kind of also affected them right, because they lost so many midfielders. All I want because, those players transfer man
Speaker 1:those players was going to you guys going to build on top of rinaldo man. All those guys those players.
Speaker 2:To be honest, if I be the only one to leave and hendon didn't want to leave, club probably never let them go.
Speaker 3:It was hendon I want to leave because club probably had a conversation with him.
Speaker 2:You probably might not play as much, but club is, I want to keep you like bro it's the same thing with hendon and eng score right Let him go Because some players just the winning mentality, how they trade.
Speaker 3:We've only just seen 19 minutes, but I think some of the managers have seen. Okay, what do they bring to the young stars that are coming up?
Speaker 2:How do they? I get?
Speaker 1:it, I get it.
Speaker 3:How do they put on their it?
Speaker 2:but like, if you don't have the facilities, if you don't got the facilities for that and you still want to be climbing in wages. Bro, you gotta go out because think about, look at Cruz and Modric yeah, they can't have that same company, because you see Cruz play like they don't go no more.
Speaker 3:But Modric is going. Yo, they don't go, modric is too big. But Modric don't got the same gas.
Speaker 2:He ain't got the same gas as the same youngsters, because if Modric was playing like last year Madrid played against man City last year, they didn't have the same energy, they got ran in the midfield they got ran over but nah they got young blood. Rodri's game, like Rodri's game, smoked out. But Rodri making wrong passes do you know how rare it is?
Speaker 3:for Rodri not to make his passes, but they actually had.
Speaker 3:Rodri on the second leg was like one way, one, one way I've never seen madrid I haven't just seen madrid, because madrid is this like this, is the one of the greatest teams every year. They're always on that like to respect that's why that was the first time I've seen them, like the last time I saw madrid, like that was again Pip Barca's team. They had that? Xavi, iniesta, busquets, messi, pedro or Sanchez. Those are the only guys who have had Madrid pinned back like that. But energy to the.
Speaker 2:See, it takes ego. What did Ancelotti say against Liverpool final? I said that was the easiest final to book for he said what you got to do counter he said the high line. I'm just sitting down, I'm getting pissed, like he seemed. I was, like he said what about the final? Oh, it's so easy. We know they were going to come out. You know they were going to have that high line. Just don't stress, you get the ball pumping up. They got that. One goal After the one goal and it was over.
Speaker 2:And I was like and Suti no block bro, you can't score. Try shooting from outside. Nothing's going to happen. You can't score, and it's like that's why you want a manager With a winning mentality.
Speaker 3:But this season you guys are going to Next season, you guys are going to go through, because Trent May leave too. Trent is not leaving.
Speaker 2:Van Dijk L just all media like talk to be honest.
Speaker 3:But Trent is going to retire and leave. Retire and leave out of the extension now, yeah, they don't why would you have a conversation when there's no manager there? Yeah now, which can affect if he wants to stay or not, because this is the right time. If he's going to leave, this is the right time for any other club to come poaching who is not going to go to madrid because I'll let him go right back.
Speaker 2:He's like old I will let him go to madrid. I'll be, I'm a madrid star anyways, I love our love friend there. Because I mean he said he said his best friend internationally is jude belia, who knows. But then I'll be trying to him be like come over here, bro, the light is bright he likes his brights, bro.
Speaker 1:This guy's gonna go expose himself in madrid. Man, watch me expose yourself. Boy trends, he's not a good defender, he don't need the defence think about it this way, think about it this way Madrid as I like.
Speaker 3:I like manager.
Speaker 2:I like manager like Ancelotti. Right, it's like if you're a top manager for me, we say Trent can't defend. I blame the manager. To be honest, in a sense, you know limitations to your players. You know what you ask them. Create a system where they won't have to do what they need to do. Look at Cruz. We know Cruz can't do all this too much running around. What does Ancelotti do? Pull Camo Winger around him. Let the young blood do the work. So the old guns. Can you get me like? It sounds funny, but like you know, he has this image. Oh, he plays Mendy. He doesn't play um, um, frank Garcia, because he knows Mendy 1v1. Mendy don't need to go forward.
Speaker 3:Mendy's one of the best.
Speaker 2:He's another centre, back there again.
Speaker 3:It's just like Mendy goes forward, it's like Wan-Bissaka on the left.
Speaker 1:It's like he just stayed there. He's just like you don't pass him so good you could try 1v1.
Speaker 2:Pace is down fast again you catch back it's like Wan pass the stay where you are, don't do nothing. Put the young you gotta play to your player strength. That's what for me is. I blame managers. My club will always expose um. I know it says go forward, I'm crossing. Who's gonna call for you if you?
Speaker 3:that was what he had Endo doing now. I guess he classifies that as his, and he's giving you more goals than being on the ball he's not ballsy enough to convert him to like a right midfielder.
Speaker 2:I don't think he's like.
Speaker 3:He should keep him on the wing because there's more space in the wing, because he doesn't have that right wing, he doesn't have that space to go past, because you can't only just be crossing. But you know there's a difference between a right midfielder.
Speaker 1:You don't necessarily have to take on players. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:See, trust me, if Ancelotti gets a hold of Trent with what he's done with Belliam, it'll make him, it'll create a whole position that would never exist. Like because new man, just think about look.
Speaker 3:I get that, I get that, I get that, I get that but like?
Speaker 2:would anyone have stopped Belyam with this role? People were like Mbappe is a new problem right now.
Speaker 3:Trust me they already figured out what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2:They already thinking about how they're going. They already know what they're gonna do but they are missing.
Speaker 3:You could see that they are missing a focal point yeah, but I mean, what are they gonna do? Hendrick's not ready yet I think their plan is Mbappé, mbappé on the right, no, in the middle. Mbappé strikes for PSG right now. Osolou is not, it's not it, so it's, it's unknown.
Speaker 2:Again, I won't say Osolou is not it? They'll probably get Osolou to be honest because he's good on the bench yeah, it's 1 million for you to get.
Speaker 3:I feel like I'll keep him. Keep him on the bench.
Speaker 2:Mbappé is number 9, right there that jersey is and see for me it will work for them because they know my god, imagine Vinny Mbappé those chances that Vinny misses. Jesus Christ Mbappé scores in the same position every single time that Lou left that Lou left. We just don't know how he strikes. But look here, we know you're going there, bro. Stop doing that. Stop doing that, you act like he was going foul post.
Speaker 3:Stop doing that he reminds me of Rooney. Rooney always does that, every time he gives the keeper the eye like he's going to go he's so frustrating bro and keep out before he realises and the pace and the pace, the way he kicked that.
Speaker 2:But I can't stop it because, trust me, if you go in there, he's going to put it to the other side. So decide for me, bro and Madrid need that, to be honest, they need that, I really hope, I really hope Arsenal or Arsenal wins Premier League, because no, man City will win Premier League. I don't want Arsenal to win.
Speaker 3:They're too loud if man City win Premier League that's four, yeah but no one else has ever done that before that's cool with me, that's just my first choice, followed by man City they're all online. Liverpool's the worst people I've ever seen.
Speaker 1:They're all online. To be honest, because Liverpool equals 20, I don't think we're winning. Like even August, they were just so. They were just like shout out man City, man City win it 4-0.