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The One About the 2024/25 Season Review.

• Ini, Paul, Manny and Tobi • Season 3 • Episode 2

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In this episode, Arsenal fans clash over Mikel Arteta's management style and whether it can ultimately lead the club to Premier League glory after years of disappointment. We also discussed Manchester United's financial problems, which stem from their ownership structure and debt burden.

Speaker 1:

Pepe costs Arsenal 72 million pounds or euros, right, yeah, and they call him a flop. They even call him a flop more than they call Anthony a flop or Sancho a flop. Sancho is still in Chelsea. Yes, they do, bro, sancho. Pepe got it hard. Pepe got it hard, though Pepe got it hard. So the fact that Anthony got it hard, no loop, no fucking loop, bro, no loop, don't fucking lose, bro, don't lose. Because Pepe was still scoring goals and people were still like he was scoring goals, bro, yeah, yeah, but Anthony is sliding. I thought you really think like that. Because, yeah, because, bro, he wasn't playing, because he's an African, that's why, because he's an African, that's why it's Pepe that hates niggas. Stop, stop, let's not do this. I'm not about pepe, but let's not do this. It's something that happens to a black person. The arrow gets thrown immediately because black people cannot be assholes or what like. Yes, it's not racism. Black people can actually be dead. Yeah, but pepe's content, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a bit harsh, because you're losing the ball like she's. So like bro.

Speaker 1:

Let me tell you saka is an a plus. You can't be a. Saka is a what? He's? An A-plus student. You can't like. That guy is too efficient, you don't agree? It's very hard to replace someone like that, saka being an A-plus student. He's an A-plus student. You know he could. He doesn't really track back. He tracks back and he's just like figure ahead. He's not really making any slaps, he's not making any tackles, but he does the job. Remember when it was Saka and Benoit? Yeah, but Benoit, benoit is doing a lot of the defensive work. Saka is just well, I track back, just because I track back. But just you being there makes a difference, though. Yeah, just you being there makes a difference.

Speaker 1:

Players I've seen that are just there, but not in South Africa. You know, flamini got money. Now, though, right, they're not stopping anything from happening. He's completely figured something out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he got money. Now, though, I forgot that Flamini was the one in Arsenal. Jeez, they've been through the trenches, bro. They've been through the trenches.

Speaker 1:

Socrates, mustafi Shamak, shamak, shamak. I feel like Arsenal goes into that. Sanogo, come on, bro. Those kind of strikers like Sanogo Shamak, they will not graduate to Olivier Giroud, the king of all Shamaks. But no, no, but come on.

Speaker 1:

Giroud on his day, though, come on. Giroud had no day. The only day he had was the only thing I like about Giroud, the only thing I love about Giroud, like in retrospect, is like he has. He like in retrospect is that guy has metal, metal strength. Bro, I can't see anybody. I'll miss that many chances. I still keep going right like man. I'm like bro, don't shoot yourself some respect. He's a world cup winner, put some respect they wanted, but he wasn't on that team. He wasn't. This man was there. Griezmann was there, drew was a striker.

Speaker 1:

Giroud played a lot, yeah, but they had Mbappe. All of Giroud's do was just head ball down for him. Stop, bro, you can't just now just diminish his stuff. We know that player. Stop now, let's see your strength. You think that Mane was just saying if someone critiques man, so mean man, so mean. See, ozzy would have broken most assists. Nah, giroud didn't try. For sure Ozzy would have broken most assists in Premier League if not for Giroud, like bro, that his record stopped in December.

Speaker 1:

But you see, that's my point. That's my point about this Oba situation. Like when Oba was playing, he had to rely on his second it yeah, like no 10. We had no 10. And then when we finally got a 10 oh, don't get me wrong odegaard was kind of around, like in the two ends of oba, but like odegaard had not settled on himself and then when odegaard started to click, oba was out.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but the thing about I don't get it. I don't even feel like. I'll be honest, let me going to critique Odegaard. I don't really like Odegaard. Like that Odegaard is, I'll be honest, I've seen, I've seen it's kind of harsh, no, no, no, it's kind of harsh Odegaard. For me he's your capitano. Odegaard, in my opinion, right is problematic because it's like, bro, you're not passing forward a lot, you are not playing to the striker, you are not playing to the other parts of the pitch and you are number 10, bro, this is number 8, you are carrying. I don't even get it like, yeah, but that's what I was saying at time. It was odegaard saka busting that right side, but saka is now without moving the ball forward. Odegaard is lost. Saka is a baller, bro. Saka is an, a plus.

Speaker 1:

You guys don't get it. This is instructions, right? No, it's instructions, but it's your shit. You need to argue with the manager. Tell the manager what you're saying to somebody that asked up, up, up ass, up my ass, bro, so you go to your work now. That move, that move. So you go to your work right now, your manager, start arguing with your manager. I don't want to do this. I want to do this with you.

Speaker 1:

Next, new managers, get to a club. You have to, like establish authority, bro. You have to kill somebody so that everybody recognizes that, bro, I will kill you too, right, yeah, that's the downside of that now, because now no one can talk to ateta. No, I brought, I think they can't talk to me all his, all his money, all his uh coaches. They all look like yes men, they're all yes men. Not looking like yes, they're yes men. Even buo Bukayo does not say shit. I don't agree. Odegaard does not say shit. I don't agree.

Speaker 1:

Why do you think Xhaka was out too? Who do you think is going to talk back? Xhaka was the only one that was talking back. I don't agree with yourself. Who is going to talk about the manager in the team right now? Gabriel, I'm pretty sure gabriel, right, right, but there's no issue with the problem.

Speaker 1:

Let's can I say something? You guys are. You guys are being very harsh because we don't have this strikeout. The team is not complete. You cannot be judging us like jesus going to judge. No, no, that he sold up by nobody's fault, bro. He sold up by three, three seasons ago. We have to move on. We can't move on. No, we have to move on. Let me tell you why we can't move on, and this is my biggest issue. I feel like on this podcast, I'm always saying the same shit over and over again.

Speaker 1:

Ateta's um time in arsenal has been like what? Five years? Four, four, five years. I think it. What? Five years? Four, five years? I think it's about five years now. And, like to him, that's his wait for the Premier League. People like us have been waiting for 12, 13 years. Yeah, but, bro, for the Premier League, seta does not feel that pressure. That's not true. 06 is the last thing you had, right, that's more than yeah, because it's 20, 25 right now. It's 20, 25 right now. It's like 20 years. Yeah, it's united, it's like 20 years. It's also 10 years.

Speaker 1:

But you should the way, bro, somebody that is as desperate as us for a question won't be asking player. I have a question. I have a question. I have a question. I have a question. What is the? What is the true cost of the premier league? What is the true cost of the Premier League. What is the true cost of winning the Premier League? Happiness? I'm talking about dollar value. I'm talking about in pounds value. What do you think a Premier League costs? No, no, no, let's answer. What do you think a Premier League costs. To answer that, to answer how much a Premier League costs, then we have to go to who won the Premier League with the least amount of resources, and that would be Leicester, bro, and everybody is selling themselves that's the biggest achievement. So it's not going to happen again. Around 100 games, yeah, true, but that's fine, but they got it. But in regards to your question, that's the answer. That's an outlier. That's the cost of the. I can choose to pick the minimum, and that will answer your question. No, you have to choose the average. You have to choose the average. I can also choose the minimum. Yeah, but that's wrong. You have to choose the average. That's the most. The only thing that's happening in football in the last many years. That would never happen again in a long time. That's what I'm asking how much does it cost to get a Premier League? What does it cost? Like dollar amounts? Yeah, like, how much does it cost? Like if you think about how much you're spending on transfers, or like to run the whole club Transfers alone. It's not for a season. How much should you spend? Like, let's say, okay, you have a three-season window your first season, your second season. You think you should spend between those three windows? You got to spend this. Okay, maybe we should take Liverpool then, because Liverpool, liverpool won't spend it. Man City was spending, liverpool won't spend it. So I'm saying, who won? Okay, we've only had two winners in the last six years. Yeah, man City spent way more than Liverpool. But how much did they spend? But if we take man City, that's ages ago. Man City was spending like 150 Arsenal a season. That's a lot of money, bro. What are we talking about here? So you're saying that's what we need to do to win, bro, if you're not spending, look at, bro, if you done, you're not winning the premier league. No, you cannot attack out of mindset. I don't agree with that. I mean, I feel like. I feel like what I think is score depth. Right, and to get score depth, you need to get players in. Or you need to keep players in. You keep the players, yeah, even fringe players. You got to keep them. Exactly, players, yes, make them happy. Atata has no concept of fringe players. Was giera really that bad? Was he a terrible player? Can I ask that question? Can I ask that question? Was Sminro a horrible player? Yes, can I ask that question? He's very shit. Off the bench. Off the bench, bro. Let me be honest. Odegaard needs somebody right now to bench his ass. Let me reply to you. We had Ramsdale. What did Ramsdale say? Ramsdale said oh, I can't concentrate. That was the first fuck-up. Second fuck-up he now said oh, he doesn't care if you play for the 20th in the league, that he has to go where you play, that is your number one. That's what Ramsdale literally said, verbatim. So now you're number one. You don't want to play for the club, you want to play for yourself. Ramsey was lied to, though he was lied to. He wasn't lied to, bro. You cannot be costing us the league. I have two goalies. Remember when I told that camera I was doing that whole speech yeah, yeah, yeah. Inventing goalie for this goalie. For that we knew who he wanted, but he didn't want to tell Ramsey, bro, look at how the brainers go against ramsdale last season, now that he played the corolla from literally 20 miles, how many yards. And he caught. And I'm like wait, wait, wait, wait. Are you serious? That's the number one for us. Now let's go. Come on, come on. What about any martinez though? What happened with martinez? Why do we let him? Martinez is your number one. Martinez is like I'm going to choose right now. We chose leno. Yeah, that was a major fuck up. But, bro, those things, yeah, but those things happen. Why do you call these guys so much slack? Because, bro, is your first time leading a club. I'm not expecting you to come in there. That's already a red flag the fact that they even got in there like your first job. Bro, I saw emory. We know, I saw every man. I saw Wenger. For years I thought I'd bet Bro, look at Emery right now, with structure, though, emery with a good structure, now With a structure, with a structure, though, come on, yeah, bro, let me be honest with you. If you give Ateta that thing that Emery has, I thought I, I think that would sell Rodgers. It would say Rodgers is not this, ramsey is not this. I think that would be Dreaming up stupid excuses. Where's that other villain on the table? I think that would be like 5th or 6th, 5th or 6th In the worst season of all In the free for all season. They are 5th or 6th. They should be 3rd. Why is Dottie and Forrest? Not that I spend money. They are 7th, not, they should be third. Why is Dottie Young? Why is Dottie Young and Forrest not even spend money? Not even they are seventh, not even spend money. Feel like seventh. No, no, no. Gibbs White I saw him be like seventh. Gibbs White was 15 million, so I saw him be like. I saw him be 10th. Bro, let's be honest, come on, come on, but Emre didn't get the chance to. Emre didn't even get out to like. He got one season. I don't want Emery in Arsenal. Emery's like bro Ateta is doing a god damn thing. Yes, he's made bad mistakes, but the fact that he's able to achieve this on that level, bro, I'm okay with that. I feel like once he has his ducks in a row, once we have a season, they do like what would that happen, bro? Pretty soon, I soon. Because let me be honest with you, ateta selling emmy smith role and loaning out for baviera is very logical. Him selling eddie ketia is logical. Yeah, because getting rid of people that are not going to play is, to me, is not an accurate statement because, like you, just I, just me, I believe. To win the league, how do you keep them? No, to win the league, you need immersed squad depth. How do you keep the players? That's part of the managerial skills, it's part of your. You cannot no, you cannot just come out and say to us that, oh, I'm not going to play this guy because I'm not going to be able to keep him happy. To me, that is a red flag on your management skills. Look at how many players Manchester City currently have and they still signed five players in January, even if you remember Madrid with Zidane, when they won three-peat champion in back-to-back-to-back. Look at that squad, bro. Look how many people left. James Rodriguez was on the bench Even in Madrid. Right now, this guy is not even playing those kids, bro. They left, but they're still smiling, but they're still smiling and sitting on the bench. And that's Madrid. It's the biggest club in the world. Can I say something? He's not the manager, though. In my opinion, arsenal faces three different things. There's Arsenal from Atletico's perspective, there's Arsenal from the fans' perspective and I don't know. I can't remember the third one. But basically, what I'm trying to say is that, as much as we may say all these things about. Bro, if you go on Twitter now, edding Ketia was against man Utd in the Getia squad. Astafan did not like in Getia. No, no, no, eddie is the only one. We are agreeing with Smith Rowe. They like Smith Rowe for nostalgia purposes. Fabio Vera was not strong enough to play in that centre. Fabio Vera, he was not a buddy. He's not strong, he's very lanky. He wasn't getting buffer growing. Zinchenko as well did not improve past 2021. That's nobody's fault. The guy's a ukrainian soldier half the time he's not really. He's not. He's not. That's not funny. I think he's playing must be well. I think that doesn't. I think the general is known, but I think that's bad side. No, he's not a bad side, but the thing is that those boys should be those players too. Everybody is like, yeah, nobody has to leave. But how come? How come it's only Arsenal that can have this grace? Any other club are not allowed to? That's not true. They're not allowed to do all these things. No, mayu has had grace. You might even talk about regime. Oh, that's the old regime, that's the dead regime. But that's true, though, like that's actually what happened, that's what they were screaming for that. Can I explain that logic. The match tomorrow, arsenal will be seen. They're protesting. United fans are going to go protest during the match for Glissers to fully sell the club and leave, because right now, my one billion of debt on interest rates you probably don't want. That Rackleaf right now is sending you down the mud. See, I have my fans there. He's like my guys are on the board. I don't even understand. Every time you talk about, I'm like that's not the reason why you're fucking up in the league. I know, but those guys have done something. Yeah, but you're not the reason why you're fucking up in the league, bro, it's not one thing, it's they. The decisions have caused cascade of things that brought up to this where we are like what about racket? What about racket? Right now, though, my net is spent 14 million on the fire at their hand. How is that cooking staff for? Yeah, 12 million? Okay, that's what. That's what I'm trying to say. Right, they say no free lunch anymore because, if you look at this stuff, right, they got their demand, their management teams, in the summer, right, and it was that same summer they had to make decisions to keep eric tangan or fire him. They haven't been in the job for even up to two months. They had to make that decision. They went and made the decision right after nine games. They fired him. That cost someone else that job because of that blunder that they made. This is a new management, this is a new. And they even fired that guy. They gotta make that mistake. They answer they pay four million for him. Right, you know that's what they find the national of all, all of the stuff to get out together. They fired him because now they're still they've not even been in job for one year, they're still trying to figure out shit. So we have to give them grace too for like okay, you guys are trying to figure out things. You're going to make mistakes along the way, because there's no way you can't make mistakes. How's that Glazer's fault? How's that Glazer's fault? How's that Glazer's fault? Glazer's fault is the decision pastor brought up to where we are right now. Right now when, like right now when problem of of psr, we have to sell one of our homegrown players. So don't be forgetful. And the reason why come down, the reason why that is, is why I'm bringing on in-depth from interest payments and owing transfer fees of 300M, because the way the Gleasers bought the club was. They took out a loan from a bank, bought the club, put the loan on the club itself, so they didn't put their own money. They put now the loan that they've taken out and right now we haven't even paid the principal balance. We're still paying interest on the loan itself. That limits, that limits what we can do in the transfer, this thing. So what was ferguson doing? What was so? Ferguson was just he was covering the patches. No, he wasn't. No, he wasn't. How much you did he buy Tevez? How much did he buy Tevez? He was able to get good deals, not because he was paying too much money. He was able to get good deals. How much was he paying in salary? How much was he paying in salary? Ferguson was playing director manager. How much was he paying in salary? How much was he paying in salary? He was covering all the cracks that we didn't notice because of Ferguson. As long as Ferguson left all the cracks that he was doing everything. And United were winning too, and you were winning. We're getting money from winning Champions League, from winning Premier League. We're getting money, you're getting money. Now you're not winning. You don't have the income right now. You're not winning. Everything is now showing. Right now, any small mistake we make affects us for two seasons, like Anthony's mistake is still affecting us. Since how many years have we signed Anthony? It's still affecting us now. Every man the size and up though man I feel like see everybody has their own value in their decisions. But don't make me disagree with it. I disagree with someone, someone telling me oh, the regime, I spent 200 million pounds, so that 100 million pounds, I was gone. I was gone, bro. Are we talking about what's the suffering from that mistake? Yeah, but you signed Anthony. For how much you signed? That's 200 million gone, just like that. Yes, and that's just like that. We're still suffering from that mistake. My only problem. Let me finish and move on the new manager, the new structure that came in right now. We've not spent any big amount of money on players anymore. All are just in. How many players do we buy for that 20 million? How many players we bought? We bought Zersky, we bought Delete. We bought Matarabi. We bought Euro. We bought who else? Ugarte for all for 200. That is crazy. That is a normal transfer season. That is a normal transfer season. I mean in this economy average, 40m per player, 50m per player. Let's be for real. But anyways, let's move on. So just to round this off, just for our listeners, just to tell you what seems, if you haven't figured it out by now, manny is an Arsenal fan. He's an. He's an. He's CEO of Arsenal FC. Yo, ateta, he was. He's an Arsenal fan, my dictator. His hashtag Ateta. He's my dictator. Man bro, he gets paid from Arsenal. What's that English Ateta? What's that? When you, when you're Ateta sympathiser, nah, nah, nah, ateta is my dictator, bro, ateta sympathiser. This is daddy. Now I like daddy, nah, I'm not my guy. And then me, I'm also an Arsenal fan, but you're passing. I'm on the other side, I'm Ateta. Out, I say one of you, out. Ateta is the reason why we're never going to end. I already told Manny Ateta is going to wake up one morning just like he said oh, the FA Cup ball is bad. He's just going to say that the Arsenal system doesn't work for me. Is that how Feta said it? No, no, he said it. I think that's a different ball. I think that's a different ball. Pep obviously said it to support. Serious, bro, are you serious? Maybe football is just football, maybe the fa ball is shit. No, really, like, come on, like where there's, where there's pep and ateta. I don't think there's a conspiracy anyways. And then on my left is paul. Paul is paul is um is united, united till I die. Red devil, what's? What's your rule in the club now? Football football analyst. I'm not a fan, just a fan. Yeah, analyst. Come on, take the credit United for life. Stock buying fan. Do you buy your stocks? Yeah, you buy United stocks. That's a smart man over there. That's a smart man. Let the kids out be doing their thing. Let me know if you collect money, let me be cash me out. That's how it is now. If you can't be them, you join them. Like back to the club. So I've seen peace. I was like you're giving me dividends, I am taking my money. How have the United Stokes been doing right now? Once I win it, go back up. I don't want to change the topic, but talking about Stoke, is this guy that like? This guy that like created an app to kind of like mirror Nancy Pelosi's things that she's doing right every time she's making, every time she's buying or selling stuff? You just do your own, like I does. Does his own, nancy. That shit should not be allowed. And before we finally move on. Obviously, toby, toby, toby, ot, liverpool, yeah, yeah, yeah Said these are sluts, boy, they are all sluts. But once they start losing, now you'll find a new project. Now, in Jokersfield, arsenal is on the come up. Arsenal is a project. Arsenal is a project that can be bested. I love to. Yeah, arsenal is a project. Arsenal is a project that can be invested. I love to win, I love to win, I love to win. You know, no stress, no stress.