Sausage Fest

Welcome to the "Sausage Fest" episode. It’s Paul, Tobi, and Manny holding nothing back, roasting each other and debating everything under the sun. Expect heavy laughs, a lot of shouting, and maybe a little bit of wisdom if you look hard enough.

Transcript

Paul (00:00)
Yo, yo, yo, welcome back to the three wise slaps podcast. This is the podcast where we just vibe everything. Yeah, it's all vibes. don't take us seriously, please. We don't fact check anything. We just say random shit and just react. My name is Paul. And today I have Saeed or OT with me in the building. So which one are we getting today? Is it OT or or Pastor Toby? Which one are we getting today?

Manny (00:09)
Take less seriously actually.

Tobi (00:19)
Bro relax, get the name right.

Manny (00:28)
now

already he's had every side already he's been lying from the from the job once you press record just three lies so let's just decide today man decide

Paul (00:37)
And the next is we have Manny CEO, CFO, So how are we feeling today guys? How was everyone's week weekend? We'll start off with UOT.

Manny (00:40)
Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

Tobi (00:41)
It's you know.

I life's good. You don't get the meme. It's like, is that future meme? It's been a good week, you know, like, you know, same old, same old, you know, trying to chase the bag, know, stay out of trouble and, know, stay out of the ups. The ups are looking for me, you know, so I got to navigate.

Paul (00:52)
Would you?

yeah.

Manny (00:57)
Well, sensational.

Paul (01:08)
started troubling. Started troubling.

What the fuck is looking for you?

Tobi (01:16)
I gotta navigate, know, them all,

you know. But yeah, I'm here now, you know, so they didn't get me this week, so I gotta survive next week again too, so they don't get me. So, that's how it is in the streets,

Paul (01:25)
City Boys we up here.

Did you do anything fun this week or weekend or anything interesting?

Tobi (01:30)
Just relaxing man. mean I'm watching YouTube though like I'm a YouTube king. So yeah, just need to relax ⁓

Paul (01:35)
Okay, ⁓ we'll come back to you

on what YouTube you've been lately. What about you Manny, how was your weekend?

Manny (01:43)
My work was good, it was good. Yeah, work, just life. Well, I mean, I kind of like, right now it's a blur, but I've had a good weekend so far, Arsenal went in today, we're recording on the sun, by the way. Arsenal went in, know, went out, peaked out, know, did my cheap days. So it's fine, man, the cap come. Yeah. Nah, nah, ribs, you know, you know, ones there, tenderness, tenderness.

Paul (02:00)
Hehehe.

Tobi (02:00)
Is this stick again? Stick on a weekend?

It's like that meme where I get

Paul (02:05)
Nice. Nice. Nice. Yeah.

Tobi (02:08)
out the

bone

Manny (02:08)
Tendonism. Tendonism. Tendonism.

You already know.

Tobi (02:12)
It's to me.

Paul (02:14)
That shit is hilarious, yo.

Manny (02:16)
Yeah,

nah, it was really good. It was good. But how about you, Paul, though? Like, that of the year? How's it been? How's it been in far... How's it been in far though? I mean, at this point, you have been a dad for like, at this most part of the year. How's it going? How is Christmas looking? Yeah. Crazy, man.

Paul (02:20)
Let's calm them. Dead. ⁓

His birthday is coming up, it soon be one year. That's crazy. The way

Tobi (02:29)
That's the experience now.

Paul (02:35)
one year go by, you won't really notice a big change. But with him, I'm like, bruh, you came from this tiny human being that just only was eating, sleeping, farting, pooping. And now you have your personality. It's amazing. Yeah. My weekend was calm.

Tobi (02:35)
channel with my first day.

Manny (02:41)
The last chance.

Tobi (02:51)
Yeah

Manny (02:53)
That's crazy. That's beautiful,

man. That's beautiful.

Paul (02:57)
usual work. Did go to see the opera yesterday so that was fun.

Manny (03:01)
a refined man a refined man bro now paul at this point you do all these like are you so wait what those books behind you what like i just want you all books out those please

Paul (03:02)
⁓ so.

Okay,

we'll come back to that. Yeah, so I have a couple of John Peterson books. It started from 12 lives, 12 rules of life. I think I was in a dark place at some point. So coasting through life. then I started reading 12 rules of life. I kind of liked what he was saying in the book. So then I started listening to more of his own thing. The kind of person I am is I do understand that humans, we all have our shades, colors.

Tobi (03:14)
You

Mmm!

I'm not

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Paul (03:38)
So we're

not one perfect human being. I'm not gonna take you and put you on a pedestal. I can disagree with certain things you do or say. I can agree with certain things you do or say. So the things I agreed with, things I focused on and hound on, which is what I'm a big fan of.

Manny (03:43)
Okay.

Mmm.

Tobi (03:53)
You know

Manny (03:53)
Well,

Tobi (03:54)
⁓ what? I don't like you trying to defend him so I'm probably going to get attacked.

Manny (03:54)
not his antics, not his like, yeah, not his... I don't know, bro, nobody even said anything. Nobody said anything. My man was like, you know, know, all shit's all great. All shit's all... I'm like, brother, like, brother, I'm fucking off. My ⁓ man said, well, all shit's all great, bro. You gotta relax. We're great with this.

Paul (04:05)
Yeah, get the fuck out of here. Because you guys are not be throwing shit already from the start.

Tobi (04:15)
Where are you going? I'm doing fucking...

Manny (04:17)
Oh man, I don't know why I stepped in on D. I stepped in on D, you know. I never went on trial. already stepped in on things. I don't know on trial. Relax, relax, relax.

Paul (04:18)
You

Tobi (04:21)
Eh-heh.

Paul (04:24)
I'm not trying, yeah? His last

book is actually quite interesting though, because he talked about the Bible, and he broke down the Bible in a professor way, so in a scholar way. Because the whole time I've looked at the, read the Bible, or focused on the Bible, it's all, you motherfucker.

Tobi (04:31)
Yeah.

20 alone.

Manny (04:42)
yeah man yeah no for real

Tobi (04:44)
you

Paul (04:46)
That's when I went to church in Nigeria.

Manny (04:48)
god damn in nigeria you've been in this country for lots of years

Paul (04:53)
I've gone to church in this country. I've read my Bible. I do read my Bible by myself. I'm not a church goer, but I have a personal relationship with God.

Manny (04:58)
Hooray, hooray.

Know we all. Know we all. you know, even when people say having a personal relationship is good, like, doesn't mean their relationship is great or like anything's great.

Tobi (05:02)
We all do, we all do, we all do.

Paul (05:04)
Yes.

So

what I was saying is like he like the Bible I've always read it or understood it from the religious perspective but listen to it from a scholar perspective and still see how the story like the moral of the story still aligns I just find it very interesting and yeah I'm a big fan of the guy in some things that he does and things I'll end it there.

Tobi (05:17)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Are

you a steak only guy? He has like this diet like steak only steak and salt

Paul (05:35)
Oh yeah,

but he did that because of he had medical problems. So I think he was struggling drastically with his health. he did, he's got carnivore diet. So cut out everything. just had only meat, no diddy. What's wrong with, yo my.

Tobi (05:42)
Mm-hmm.

Manny (05:47)
Eat meat bro, you understand how MAGA this thing is bro have you seen

okay, have you seen that guy on TikTok the liver king that guy like Yeah, no, no before we get to the capitalism of it all right like on TikTok, BHS said talking about eat raw meat and liver like right like so this kind of raw diet like how like is it even where's the medical backing for it or is it like actually

Tobi (05:57)
yeah, capital.

Paul (06:14)
But Carnivore diet is different from what that guy is doing, right? He's doing raw meat. can have be... Yeah, you can be on Carnivore diet and cooked, cooked, right? Cooked, cooked meal, right? Cooked meat, right? So yeah, for him, for him, I can only say for him, right? Cause everyone have different, different response or different reaction. But for him, was like, it was struggling with some...

Manny (06:18)
Oh yeah, it's kind of, mean, how carnivore you gets like... No, no, no, that's carnivore. Like, that's being...

Tobi (06:21)
I'm going go 2 for 0.

you

Manny (06:27)
Cooked meats, right? Right? Steaks.

Tobi (06:33)
I say, ⁓ I get it though.

Manny (06:35)
⁓

Paul (06:38)
medical issues, it was in hospital and everything. So he decided, you know, I'm going to cut out everything and just only eat steak, I think, and veggies from mistaken from the wrong. I just take, yeah, I'd stick and he started, he started getting better. So he was like, okay, this could be correlation and causation. So he kept on trying and he's getting better and better and better. So then you realize, okay, this might be, this might be it. Right. So he went on it. I mean, meat is mostly protein, right?

Tobi (06:38)
health issues right now.

Manny (06:46)
No, just stick, just stick, just stick, just stick.

Tobi (06:48)
You're not as love

as me, bro.

Paul (07:05)
your cotton out sugar

Manny (07:05)
But a of

red meat isn't good for your health, right?

Paul (07:09)
Yeah, red meat specifically, right? What chicken could be.

Manny (07:10)
Yeah, so

he said bro, hate the day. I don't know man chicken like eating chicken chicken chicken is the most daunting is the most like mind-boggling thing ever bro, like How do you like you guys good on just chicken ilan or you need different birds?

Paul (07:24)
We.

Are you not black? I'm sorry.

Manny (07:28)
So you just say wait because i'm black fried chicken like you see bro

first of all listen to listen to jordan peter saying man i'm you i'm not black bro. What are you on paul like

Paul (07:34)
You

Tobi (07:35)
I would.

Paul (07:38)
I'm just fucking with you. No, I

Manny (07:39)
I'll you

Tobi (07:40)
I I'm not saying me personally, I'm not a meat eater, right? So...

Paul (07:45)
No

Manny (07:45)
Mmm,

Paul (07:45)
ditty, yo, no ditty.

Manny (07:46)
I love DD. I'm say like, Miss Eater. Okay, bro.

Tobi (07:50)
I do do like I do like birds chicken chicken in Turkey. Yeah, it's Hardly really

Manny (07:55)
So you eat red meat at all.

Why?

Is yours a medical thing or is just like diva? The diva-ness of it all right? You what I'm I'll say diva.

Tobi (08:01)
It's just a choice. It's just a choice

Paul (08:03)
say diva.

Tobi (08:05)
No, no,

like it's just like I Don't eat things eyebrows put it that way Yeah, they go eyebrow

Manny (08:11)
You know, he thinks your eyebrows. ⁓ Wait, wait, what?

Do cows have eyebrows?

Tobi (08:17)
Don't I don't think they do by yes moves

Manny (08:20)
You think you know

your guy, you think you know your guy, what you doing? Like, what's it?

Tobi (08:23)
What's

that? I'm just not crazy about meat. I don't know why. It's just like some of you are, right?

Paul (08:24)
You

Manny (08:29)
know, let's just pay the bill please. Thank you.

Paul (08:31)
No, it's funny though, I actually do like meat, no dairy. Like my lunch, my, nah, nah, nah. No, I'm good, I'm good. I know this is 2025, but I'm good. I'm good. No, no, no, no, catch me outside.

Tobi (08:35)
You could delete it, it's alright.

Manny (08:38)
Yeah, no one told you if if you liked the video, feel to me.

Tobi (08:46)
I say it's not one of them, huh? Okay.

I'll buy that.

Paul (08:52)
So like, eat like my lunch a lot of times is either chicken or pork or ribs or turkey. do because I noticed that whenever I have carbs for during lunch for work, I just crash afterwards. So I know now whenever I do have salad or meat, I my energy is not steady.

Tobi (09:09)
I'm open-dog

Paul (09:13)
steady release of energy yo man this is 2025 yo what's what's wrong with you

Manny (09:15)
Bro, like, this show, it seems more uncomfortable. But, nah, for real, I swear. I know, I know,

Tobi (09:20)
You

Manny (09:24)
I know, I know, I know, we're adults, right? We shouldn't be plotting everything. Yeah, I hear you though. I don't know, I like having variety of birds, know, mean, bird gags. So, I don't wanna just be eating chicken. Nah, like, me, I don't like just eating chicken. I hate to throw in turkey, yeah, duck.

Tobi (09:35)
What do you my birdies do, like me?

What is the variety gene dogs gene?

Manny (09:44)
Turkey, yeah. Doc. I said doc.

Tobi (09:45)
Okay, okay, okay,

Paul (09:46)
Say dog did I hear that word? Oh, I thought I

Tobi (09:48)
No no no

Paul (09:50)
had dog. I'm like, hey, yo

Tobi (09:50)
no no no no we don't do We don't do that over here. So yeah, there's just only three there right chicken turkey dog But I didn't even know you know

Manny (09:54)
Nah, I'm all from Calabasha so it's all good too. Yeah, nah. Only three, yeah, yeah.

Paul (10:02)
Alright. Boring.

Manny (10:02)
I know bro, there people that eat like kangaroo, beer,

ostrich, you know? Yeah. Aligeto, bro, like even Winnipeg, think there's a store that sells like Aligeto sausage or some shit. Like I was like, bro, what? Aligeto? Yeah, but bro, think about how sausage is made and then not think about Aligeto version of it. That's like nasty work, bro. Like.

Tobi (10:06)
Yeah, that's some other stuff.

I had the taste like chicken but I saw people that tried it

Every sausage is nasty work, bro.

Manny (10:23)
Every sausage is nasty work,

but when you think about it, bro, like sausage does nasty work, bro. First of all, it does the... Nah. Fuck, I need to stop laughing like that. It's weird, though.

Tobi (10:28)
You just mash you meat in the head of a rust.

Paul (10:31)
Hehehehehe

Every sausage is nasty walk. Hey, yo

Manny (10:40)
Every time it's not steel work man. Just not

just not steel work bro. First of all, but now

Paul (10:45)
I did look into

Tobi (10:45)
That's crazy though.

Paul (10:47)
carnivore diet though. Carnivore diet is from, to Germany, it's it's an elimination diet that promotes eating only animal products and excluding all plants, plant-based food. So it's pretty much what you eat is meat, beef, often preferred pork lamb, game, chicken, turkey, duck, seafood, eggs. ⁓

Tobi (10:57)
meat and eggs then ⁓

Your grocery bill

gonna be loud just me

Paul (11:11)
it is.

Manny (11:11)
bruh canadi bro

that your grocery now juna peter said he see you rocks now now why he can you know he can say fuck yeah man bro they are buying all his norsse books man i don't hate him i don't don't hate him i just hate his style and i hate his suits like

Paul (11:16)
Yeah, and you don't

Tobi (11:19)
He's selling people like Paul are funding his meat journey so...

Paul (11:22)
What's your hate with John Peterson as he buys nonsense books?

I this style

and suit. So all aesthetic.

Manny (11:35)
He started on Suits

Sante. Like, bro, like I went like Kolothi. It reminds me of this hockey. Yeah, I don't know. And then I liked Jadon Pintas. I agree. Like, think, you know, I don't know. feel like, I like most of his rhetoric, right? But I think. No, I'm because they're fun. No, I'm not because they're fun. It was just kind of like during the whole campaign with Trump.

Tobi (11:39)
It's a persona he's trying to give you

Mine's a close to that five, ⁓ Be style no business, bro. Style no business.

Mm-hmm.

Manny (11:59)
You

know, the bra agenda like, oh, Canada is doing this and he turned up. That's like, brother, like, what are you on about? Like, I get what he's saying, you know, in terms of like profitability, all those things. But I mean, I think there are just a lot of overreactions or lot of serious reaction in 2021 that were more past. So I don't hate him that much anymore, be fair. I know that guy hates him. He's just. Yeah, I shouldn't hate anybody. Damn.

Tobi (12:16)
Show you

Paul (12:19)
No, no, fair enough. Yeah, fair enough. I did I did unfold him on Twitter though, because I

Tobi (12:21)
You shouldn't hate anybody anyway.

Paul (12:26)
was just I didn't I wasn't liking the he kept on commenting on different things. I'm like, why are you getting involved in this? Like, this is not something you should. And I think later on, one of in one of his podcast episode, he kind of made a mention about like, yeah, he had to step back from Twitter a little bit. They felt like he was going into the deep end with Twitter. He just kept on

Manny (12:31)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Tobi (12:46)
things aggressive.

Paul (12:48)
Yeah, he kept on reacting

to it and he noticed that he shouldn't have and I'm like,

Manny (12:50)
Yeah.

Tobi (12:52)
That's what happened when you're in the carnival diet, You like this?

Manny (12:54)
yeah

bro bro you know you call me wild anymore bro eventually you know you become you become what he is man you're right to me that's a call like you come he eats right like

Tobi (12:57)
Inbalances on hormones.

Paul (12:58)
you

But

But what the claim, so you exclude

vegetables, fruits, rice grains, or rice, oats, beans, peanuts, nuts and seed, most beverages you don't have that you don't have caffeine or sugar. And yeah, the way saying it does the advantages is like rapid weight loss, improved mental clarity and mood, reduce bloating and digestive issues. It helps you autoimmune and chronic

Tobi (13:17)
No coffee.

Manny (13:17)
Damn.

Mmm.

Paul (13:30)
disease. So I guess that's kind of the reason why I ended up doing it for that, that passion.

Manny (13:34)
Every time they say all

this, he helps autoimmune and it's just like, bro, it just sounds like some doctor said this shit, like, Yeah, it's like cancer too. mean, yeah, but it's like, what is it? Autoimmune is what diseases. So he can't have a chronic disease.

Tobi (13:39)
That's an umbrella. That's an umbrella for every day.

Paul (13:40)
Mm-mm-mm.

No, is not autoimmune though, right? So.

chronic disease remission.

Tobi (13:53)
Call the doctor, us now.

Paul (13:53)
It was talking more like skin issues, arthritis, inflammatory diseases. So it does say that scientific evidence is lacking. So with Jordan Peterson, he wasn't promoting carnivore diets. It was more like, this is what I'm doing. This worked for me. I'm not promoting anything. So the disadvantage is his lack of fiber because you're only eating meat.

Tobi (13:57)
information right yeah

Manny (13:59)
Cool.

Tobi (14:06)
Say what? I get it.

Manny (14:06)
Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, I you.

Paul (14:14)
⁓ nutrient deficiency because you're not having those kidney and liver strain.

Tobi (14:17)
mood swings.

Manny (14:17)
Yeah

I after you're on economy mode you don't have go for a colonoscopy though like brother like you just have madness in your intestines my boy like you don't have a bit of madness going on

Paul (14:22)
No.

Tobi (14:30)
But

I think of all that I think for that weight loss though it works but I don't things like a long term it's like a no Like a short term up on their protein for like long term you have some balance that

Manny (14:34)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

Paul (14:42)
I guess was

Manny (14:42)
Especially with the carbs, the low carbs, like, man, you don't have any energy. just like... Yeah.

Tobi (14:44)
Yeah, super diets and all them ones is like, yeah, it's like

Paul (14:45)
Yeah. Yeah.

Tobi (14:48)
the mood though. Yeah.

Paul (14:48)
I guess it's more like a reset, right? If you're trying to like completely reset your body and start again, right? Because we, in our society right now, we have a lot of over processed foods, right? And so it's like, if you're eating meat, at least you know, this is natural. There isn't like, even because when you go to the store, right, you have to go look for organic compared to no GMO stuff, right? So it's, I guess this is like a, yeah, go on.

Manny (14:54)
Hmm.

Tobi (15:00)
yeah.

Manny (15:00)
Yeah.

Yeah, no GMO shits.

But I mean, guys heard that like, Canada is like, they're allowing cloned meats to be stores. Yeah, so they're gonna be to like cloned meats and shit. Who, me? Bro, I'm not even being loved by that. I haven't been loved by that. Yeah.

Tobi (15:18)
We kind of have to be, I did see that. With people like you, we need to have that, right? Cause this, no, no, meat lovers. because of meat, we don't have enough meat to supply the world. So we have to find,

Paul (15:18)
What?

Hahaha!

Tobi (15:36)
they do it with veggies too, right? Like we don't have enough grains to supply. So they have to have like GMO to kind of make sure we all are fed. So if you're talking.

Manny (15:43)
Rather than just having

peace, rather than just having like a peace trade arrangement or agreement with other people that can produce it. You know, like, fuck that, since we always do science, let's just grow and I won't need to do lab. Bro, I mean, don't you feel like, see, for example, right, this is going to pivot, but like, I to pivot a little bit, but there's, there's some necessities that it needs to have.

Tobi (15:50)
They're just not enough. They're just not enough.

Paul (15:50)
Exactly. Exactly.

Tobi (15:55)
Are you gonna pay the extra price for me?

Mm-hmm.

Manny (16:09)
right? Like, and it shouldn't be under, it shouldn't like fall under the umbrella of capitalism or like, you know, we shouldn't be trying to measure the effectiveness of this treaty or agreement in

Tobi (16:20)
That one,

yeah.

Manny (16:21)
because like you should be the cost this is what a society needs to survive then trying to establish that with another government or something that they also need and then you know what profits are but what was it like how much is this part of the government making you know sometimes they just say those stupid things like oh the carapace is losing money i'm like bitch what do you mean you're losing money like no one is expecting to raise money like you're not like you're not a business establishment whether you're you you engage in business right so like know like same thing with what's open AI is going through right like because

Paul (16:40)
the

Manny (16:51)
you also want to be you want to be on an umbrella of like this is I team needs to like engage in and you so someone are saying but Sam you're getting like a trillion dollars in investments how much more how much revenue I go to be able to get my bro like if it's something needs to develop society and move things forward unless everybody agrees as what's happening then you should take losses for that right in a way

Tobi (16:54)
That's it.

Paul (16:57)
you

Tobi (16:58)
Yeah.

But yeah,

Manny (17:16)
How much money

would you make back?

Tobi (17:18)
Okay, so money if it's your money that you say it's for society and no returns back What would you do? You don't have enough you don't have enough you'd be like, but this is this much society I know what I'm gonna tell you. Thank you

Paul (17:23)
.

Manny (17:23)
Yeah, I'm saving your lives. I'm saving your lives. Why not telling me? Thank you.

It's for society.

I'm not making any money unless I'm making some stupid amount of money on it then yes I need to put the money back I to like I'll have it bought obviously I have to pay but I'm saying that if it's something that the government is getting involved in like the way it is happening right where you're carrying taxpayer money to put into this thing then yeah then it's kind of like it should it shouldn't be privatized in that sense anymore it be like it's good you know so I think yeah I think there should be like different tiers but you know

Tobi (17:46)
Yeah!

Yeah.

I'm just off, yeah.

Paul (18:00)
Hmm.

Tobi (18:02)
Keep it in there.

Manny (18:05)
We're always thinking exactly. Exactly. So that was my argument there with food and public need, basically.

Tobi (18:06)
Trust the government to rise as another language is

Paul (18:14)
So it's a human necessity. the goal shouldn't be profits. It should just be open to everyone.

Manny (18:20)
yeah

it should be open source right but open to everyone in that community and you can outsource it and you can use it to like get better deals with other governments you shouldn't just be like no let me just put it on the open source like this i don't know i don't know i just feel like even the way people think about nationalism it's not like it's not like seriously bad but it takes degrees that like are just now weird you know so

Paul (18:35)
Mmm.

Tobi (18:38)
You

Paul (18:41)
I'm just

trying to Google definition of communism and socialism. that's, if, if, hey yo, I don't know if he's flip flop or if I've not been following him that well or if this is just politics. Because the way him and Trump were doing, yo, my long lost lover was like, hey, we'll be best friends for like,

Tobi (18:46)
We know Mondani right now though, right?

Manny (18:50)
Bro

Why? Why?

No, that's you. Did you feel like that?

I didn't feel like that. I felt like Trump was just, I feel like Trump is a fake guy, bro.

Tobi (19:10)
I respect my dining up. He was starting on business. It is like he was you know, he was they were trying to dig a hole for him all those reporters I asked him like ⁓ you flew here

Manny (19:12)
I respect my Dunny, yeah. Yeah.

Paul (19:13)
Mm hmm. Yeah.

Manny (19:18)
yeah yeah what bro

Paul (19:18)
Yeah.

Am I supposed to drive?

Manny (19:24)
no like yeah like i feel like i feel like they're just messy i feel like that's what journalism was done into is like it's just messy she is like okay now that you're here do you still think trump is a fascist he's like what's the point of this question is it's like

Tobi (19:29)
Go ahead.

Paul (19:35)
Mm-hmm.

Everyone.

Manny (19:38)
Like what's the point? How does this move the needle like what is name-calling like how does this move the needle? Not until they are here and even you're not but I scream for me is that well, then he's a New York City mayor like he's a fucking mayor, bro He's not even like the governor, but he's not the governor, right? So it's just like bro. I mean

Tobi (19:38)
They need to know.

Not gonna stay, yeah.

Paul (19:55)
But the mayor has more mouth than the governor. yeah, cause New York, mean, New York is the biggest, even though the biggest, this thing. All right, so.

Manny (19:58)
Which is crazy, do think about this? This is so crazy.

Tobi (20:04)
It's biggest capital. Yeah, that's that's the capital of the world right for investment

and stuff, right? So it's like but it's funny news

Manny (20:09)
Yeah.

Paul (20:11)
No,

it's just like, I guess the question that you pointed out to, right, when you asked him, are you a fascist? Then Trump was like, yeah, just say yes. It's easier to just say yes than to explain. Like that guy is wild. That is wild.

Manny (20:19)
Yeah, yeah. He's wild.

Tobi (20:20)
Hoot hoot!

Manny (20:24)
He's wild. He's wild. And I agree. There are a of lessons that we can learn from him. They're not great lessons. They're lessons in being an asshole. Rather than trying to explain yourself. And everybody would be like, OK, boy, this is explanation. You said X. And then now you're explaining. OK, and you now mistakenly say Y. And they're like, boy, you said Y. And you're now explaining yourself over and over. And they're yeah, I hate them.

Paul (20:40)
Yeah.

I think he does work for him though because now whatever he says people just go like, yeah, that's just Trump being Trump, right? Yeah.

Manny (20:48)
Woohoo, like what you gonna do, all right?

Tobi (20:58)
If you expect it, you expect it. You're shocked

Manny (21:00)
Yeah

Tobi (21:00)
by it anymore. He's outdone himself.

Manny (21:02)
Yeah Yeah But yeah, I mean this even is everything thing right bro, like I love you talk about like right I'm bringing out the F Steve files my antennas are aliens Everything but we got the F steam files Everything bro, everything like they literally shut down the gold. I don't bring out the F C files

Paul (21:03)
See ya.

Mmm.

Yeah. ⁓

Manny (21:24)
What everybody else knew for hours, oh you know some some US government officials did meet with two aliens, know that there is there's there they're on record I'm like bro, like just just tell us you troubles there on us, but let's move on like I Mean all our was for fears are confirmed already everybody knows that they were there like this is kind of like what's the point

Paul (21:30)
Mmm-hmm.

Tobi (21:37)
They're to have read

they're so many in those father they don't

Paul (21:41)
Yeah, 100%.

Tobi (21:47)
We didn't know what they were doing. That's it. Yeah, we were you were there you might be having lunch I could be there like We need to know what you were doing while you were there

Paul (21:49)
Mmm.

Right? Like,

Manny (21:54)
Bro, right? Yeah.

Paul (21:58)
like,

I guess come back to Diddy party, right? Because there was the Diddy after party and there was the regular party, right?

Manny (22:03)
Yeah.

Tobi (22:04)
to go to the after party. Well, I was a big party

Manny (22:07)
yeah yeah facts facts facts so so people some people some people drop money for the oil they drop money to buy the oil they have two different types of people bro they don't put money for cocaine they put so if we just bought you know coca cola to the party next thing you know they are calling you and then you are part of the party god damn nah

Tobi (22:07)
and we went home after Everybody come on. Yeah Everybody was at a day party. They don't see they don't see the after party

Paul (22:12)
You

Tobi (22:24)
you

Paul (22:27)
But do you think

Tobi (22:32)
That's crazy though.

Paul (22:33)
do you think someone in that party can just be like hey, here you go Have the shots and a guy or a chick both ways, right? Yeah, I have the shot takes the shot. Do you want to this this pill? It'll make you have the best time of your life the next thing you wake up and you just see what the

Tobi (22:40)
Yeah.

Manny (22:49)
Fox bro, Fox, Fox. That's how it is honestly. I mean I don't know anything but Toby seems to know about how it is. Toby, that's not YouTube. Nah, as far as YouTube, nah I feel you bro, I feel you. Zero research, zero, zero YouTube. That's what I was doing man. Well I was listening to our research, no break.

Tobi (22:50)
That's how it is though. I don't know, I'm on YouTube right? My files are on YouTube. Ask why YouTube? This happens in the industry. Yeah, don't quote me. It's happening in the industry. No research. Someone else did it. Someone else did it. Because they say like

Paul (22:57)
Mwahahahah

You

Tobi (23:12)
even Drake for example has parties where it's like ladies who come and they'll like take away their phones.

It's like all you come in like private parties and you can't could tell us this is what happened But like seeing is believing right? I say if you don't want no pictures no videos you would be like, she just wants a but she might It's kind of like a wish you but that's industry though

Manny (23:17)
Yeah.

Paul (23:22)
Hmm

Manny (23:23)
We're right.

Yeah. Yeah.

Paul (23:26)
Hmm You know

I'm not against that though to an extent like the no party no phones. It's like no, no, no, no, no, no Because you're calm down. Calm down. Calm down. Calm down. It's what I'm to Like what I'm trying to say is just more like being the presence right when you go to shows even even comedy shows, right? I go to love comedy shows and they they do

Tobi (23:33)
Guess what?

Manny (23:36)
What else are you doing against fall? I'm with you though, I'm with you.

Tobi (23:39)
What you trying to do in Roast? You one time, you don't

know what happened right now.

Manny (23:50)
Yeah.

Tobi (23:52)
Mm-hmm.

Paul (23:54)
take your phone away. so it's like, you don't, people don't need to know. Either you're there or you're not. If you're not there, sorry about, sorry, it is what it is.

Tobi (23:55)
Take note from the...

comedy

Manny (24:02)
Yeah.

Tobi (24:04)
show makes sense because they try not to the material go out which I do parties you drink in, you do whatever

Manny (24:07)
Yeah, yeah.

Paul (24:09)
Yeah, they party too now. You don't want the mantra to go out too now. You

Manny (24:12)
You know what the material to go out to know? ⁓

Paul (24:14)
don't

Manny (24:14)
There's no difference like, bro, like.

Paul (24:14)
want it to go out too now. Because everyone, I had you Beyonce. Beyonce, have to sign NDA if you're partying with her. right, and again, I get it. You have an image you're trying to protect. You're dealing with millions of dollars.

Tobi (24:21)
Mandy and stuff, man.

Manny (24:27)
Yeah.

Tobi (24:29)
I get it, I get

it. Everyone's trying to get cash, so I get it though. Like, you can stage things too and whatnot, who knows, like, flip it around. I get it though, I get it.

Manny (24:32)
Yeah.

Paul (24:34)
right right coming back

Manny (24:38)
Yeah.

Paul (24:38)
to

trump i've been seeing lately online of this trump and boba i'm like what the fuck is this

Manny (24:42)
Who the fuck is

BuBais? Okay, I mean...

Tobi (24:44)
Is that a bubble

tea?

Paul (24:46)
You, you YouTube guy, right? You always watch YouTube every time. As it comes across your algorithm at all.

Tobi (24:49)
Is it?

I didn't see it on YouTube because my YouTube is not screwed up like that. I saw some things on Twitter and allegedly, said Trump was doing some things with somebody called Boba. And in the industry, Boba is known to as, what's that guy's name? What's that former president, Bill Clinton? It's like, that's what they call him as. So they said he was doing some oral activities.

Paul (24:58)
Yeah.

Okay.

Manny (25:01)
Wait, what? What is this doing?

Paul (25:05)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Manny (25:16)
Yeah.

Paul (25:21)
AYO!

Tobi (25:21)
And there

might be a video out there that Vladimir put in my head over his head and there were secret emails back and forth like does he still have this video with Boa? People were like, hmm, what's going on? And another angle is some people saying Boa might be a horse. we don't know, we don't know.

Paul (25:23)
Orro.

Manny (25:24)
Hahaha! ⁓

Hmm.

bro how about my b a trani who knows

Paul (25:46)
Ayy!

Ayyyy! Yo!

Manny (25:48)
saying it man, I'm just saying it.

Tobi (25:49)
I don't want to for me. This is all based in some guy on Twitter. ⁓ It's not my it's not my story. I'm innocent, but that's that's the news. That's the news on

Manny (25:53)
Yeah.

Paul (25:57)
Oh yeah, because you

like to go to America. America is your favorite country now so you don't want them to search up your stuff.

Tobi (26:03)
Going there they could actually actually nice you

rose key like don't be tripping bro. It's not what she gets you

Paul (26:09)
Mm-hmm ⁓

Manny (26:10)
I

mean, I kind of like that's facts, but that's crazy though. Crazy, crazy. I didn't know that that was going to be Trump. I didn't know that he was giving neck at the Epstein dance. He giving head to some people. That's crazy, man.

Tobi (26:16)
Alright, good luck.

Paul (26:19)
Hahaha!

Tobi (26:20)
I did this!

You are welcome.

Paul (26:23)
See who's giving neck.

Tobi (26:28)
But

that's the thing, when you have too much money though, you know, like you have crazy ideas.

Manny (26:31)
I mean did you guys ever see that? Did

you guys ever see that? What do call this doc? Fuck sorry guys, there's this Netflix documentary. My son has this Netflix documentary. There's this documentary on Netflix about the guy that used do Winning. Winning, what's his name? Yeah, Charlie Sheen. Yeah, Charlie Sheen, yeah. Did guys ever see it?

Paul (26:41)
Nice one.

Tobi (26:47)
Winning.

Oh, yeah, I saw it.

saw it. was gas. It was gas. I like

Manny (26:54)
Yeah,

like I said, I want you to do no cocaine. Just you can just start sucking dick. ⁓

Tobi (26:59)
I think he had an analogy, he

said try a different salad dish or something like that try a different dish No, I'm not feeling sick bro, come on, it's alive, watch out

Paul (27:02)
Hehehehe... Hehehehehe...

Manny (27:04)
Yeah, he tries to be like, if I had that

play before, let me try it. Nah, that's sick, man. I mean, it's possible, This part is...

Paul (27:09)
Mm-hmm.

Manny (27:15)
What you see is allowed.

Paul (27:16)
This is 2025 yo, whatever flows your boat

Manny (27:19)
I mean, bro,

bro, I swear like, just love going home, man. It's 25 minutes. Yeah, man. Love his love for sure. For sure. For sure. For 100%. Whatever you say, boss. Whatever you say, boss. Whatever you say. For sure, bro. For sure. nah.

Tobi (27:24)
Love is love bro, come on like... I said for sure! ⁓

yeah.

Paul (27:40)
That is right. the guy's nickname is, or the guy's actual name is Frank Cowless. The Boba guy. Yeah, Frank. Sup, Frank. Interesting.

Manny (27:45)
Who the bubba frack is his name crazy Damn,

Tobi (27:50)
That's crazy.

Manny (27:51)
nah, so Trump man. I mean right the game is the game man. That's what people want that for right? See the one that he give me they give the mandates

Tobi (27:57)
I should give it a go. I should give it a go.

Manny (28:02)
Would you guys see that? Kibbenajat? Because, I mean, America is such a complex place, right? The same person they're talking about, Christian's in Nigeria, is giving next to a nigga called Frank. Like, bro, it's crazy. Like, I don't even know. Like, these things are happening at the same time. It's not like, this is how I'm supposed to go, like...

Paul (28:14)
Hehehehehe

Tobi (28:17)
What a time to be alive.

What a time to be alive.

Manny (28:19)
everything is happening at once you feel me like you're talking about ways to defend christians and then niki minaj of all people is coming up in the u.s talk about christians and i've seen like two weeks ago she was just shouting this is somebody's child like i look like like what is going on does anything even make more like

Paul (28:31)
Yeah.

Hehehehehe

Tobi (28:37)
I mean,

for me, I saw a online when she was saying, hey, Barbz, at the UN conference, talking to her fans, like, oh yeah, shout out to Donald Trump. This is not about Trump. This is about fine for Christianity. And she was trying to almost pivot to her fans. And someone was kind of saying, she's talking to the Barbz. You and people there are representative of the country. They don't even know what a Barbz is. It's like, what are you?

Paul (28:59)
Yeah. ⁓

Manny (28:59)
You don't care what he barf is, like.

Tobi (29:01)
You have this stage and this is what you're using your message to talk to. It's just kind of backwards. And it's like, why is Nick Minaj at the UN conference? It's like, come on, man. Anaconda Legandrosky, come on, man.

Paul (29:09)
Talking about Christians.

Manny (29:11)
Talking about Christians in Nigeria.

I mean, I'm in moment, I'm in I'm cursing the name of Jesus. said, Jesus, this is Cardi B. I was like, bro, like, what is this twisted shit? Like, what time line are we?

Paul (29:22)
Nope.

Yeah. ⁓

Tobi (29:25)
mean, but like Cardi B too was a part of the election to Joe Biden, right? Like she was giving like speech and like, it's, it's, I'm a Harrison things. The world is backwards man.

Manny (29:30)
Come out of high-reson shit, Yeah,

Paul (29:35)
No, it's

not it's not necessarily. OK, but that's election time. Right. It's election time. No, what I mean is election time. Right. People you have who you vote for. Right. And you want you want you want the person that you want empowered to be there because of they serve your own goals and what you expect to what you want. So I can't I can't knock that down. Whoever is going for like your bro.

Tobi (29:38)
It is bad food. It is bad

I get it.

Manny (29:50)
Agenda, yeah.

Tobi (29:50)
Yeah.

NBA Youngboy performing at Trump Conference and I'm like bro man, like come on man, what's going on? Lil Pump diving down to Trump and I'm like what's going

Paul (29:59)
you

Manny (30:04)
down. I mean, you how it

Paul (30:08)
I mean, you gotta do what you gotta

do. Everyone did it right? Cause I heard that did it trying to get Trump to pardon him. Right? So.

Manny (30:10)
Yeah.

Tobi (30:13)
I'll get it. Pardon. Right?

I think if he survives this, if steam stuff, he might get out. Trump is just distracted right now. They're like, it can't really help. He can't really help his homie because he got his own shit to do it. If this, he passes this.

Paul (30:17)
Yeah.

Manny (30:25)
Nah,

Trump is the president for all the criminals, man. For all the white-collar criminals, Trump is the guy for them. Like, I can just see how, like, all of them just love him, bro. Like, bro, Geno... Bro, mean, like, bro, warlords, know, genocidal maniacs, like, pre-Saudi Arabia, everybody's like, yo, we love Trump. It's like, man, this is crazy, bro.

Paul (30:34)
I'm the guy. I'm the captain now.

Tobi (30:35)
yeah!

I don't care.

is wild though, it is wild

for sure, it is wild.

Manny (30:51)
And craziest

thing about it, like, I mean, I don't like just so we can get on Trump, right? Is it with the like refurbishment of that White House is doing like who is paying? It's private. So it's like, so your private. So.

Paul (30:58)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Tobi (31:01)
⁓ A lot of people paying for it like parma apparently

CEO parma and they gave me some like donations, right? Cuz I'm not trying to get too technical like you proved like a merger between ⁓ skydance and It's like they gave a little yeah. No. Thank you. Thank you, you know Because he could have liked stuff he could have stopped people like anti competition Yeah

Manny (31:07)
Mmm.

I'm Paramount. Okay.

Paul (31:17)
Yeah, haha. Thank you for all your help. There you go. Tipini Mabee.

Manny (31:25)
This this is, this is Blitance bro. It's right in

everybody's face. It's right in everybody's face.

Tobi (31:28)
competition theme, that's crazy though, it's crazy.

Paul (31:29)
right right yeah and

it's crazy because after once he leaves if he decides to leave right because don't know if he's gonna leave or not if he decides to leave right they can't persecute him for this because the supreme court has given him immunity over anything that is happening once he's president of America so all this corruption that he's doing because if he's a different person that is doing this he will be the first person shouting

Tobi (31:36)
That's true, if you decide to leave.

Manny (31:57)
Of course. Of course.

Paul (31:57)
every single day.

Tobi (31:58)
yeah, yeah.

Paul (31:59)
This is corruption. This is corruption. that and the stuff you mentioned, I've been thinking about it like for a while now. It's like, okay, you say it's private funding it. What are the private people? How do you know that this one is not the person doing this is because no one will give you money out of the kindness of their hearts. They are expecting something in return. Yeah.

Tobi (32:10)
I

Manny (32:12)
Yeah!

Exactly bro and Trump is a businessman he knows this bro

Tobi (32:16)
Okay, let's do this now.

Manny (32:20)
he knows this so it doesn't even matter like there has to be some guarantees for whoever is giving these things to so like for it to actually be fulfilled so yeah man

Tobi (32:27)
And even

all this tiresome, I know that some of these homies would have made a lot of money off it. I'm gonna them, announcement in 20 minutes, get ready. ⁓

Manny (32:32)
Bro, 100. And it's the best way

Paul (32:32)
Mmm.

Manny (32:37)
to kill competition, If all my guys have supply chain in different parts of the world. Bro, if all my opps are buying that shit from China, I all of them already. Record. That's for when your businesses are closing. Nah. Yeah.

Tobi (32:46)
All my arms are not ready.

It's crazy though it's it will take tough to trying to buy the tick to arm for like this is all strategic

Manny (33:01)
Yeah, man, it's crazy man. It's crazy.

Tobi (33:01)
man. It's crazy

Manny (33:04)
But I mean that's that's just us does america for you and nigeria was to do down she filming so It doesn't even matter like what? What point is? I never thinking about bro. I've even seen this bonnet boy issue like especially in like because I'll do the thing where we're about like the musicians that you want That were shooting off for trump and everything like i'm a brother like just like in the last four years. I don't know how the bonnet boy Persona is for me at even

Tobi (33:23)
Yeah.

Manny (33:30)
more rice be free time again like yo fuck Nigerians you know I don't compare to follow fuck that nigga and you guys don't get about all my father's sleeping on my concerts and just like damn like this nigga like is he really losing all right you guys feel like you lose the alright like

Paul (33:30)
Mm-hmm.

Tobi (33:44)
saw an interview when he was trying to explain Afrobeats. I'm like... Let's enjoy the music. It ain't that deep, bro. It ain't that deep. So think he's lost it to it.

Paul (33:44)
Mm-hmm

Manny (33:47)
Yeah.

Bro.

Yeah, our brother boy chairman, our brother boy spokesperson, Apollo. We'll see you all, see you all, yeah, yeah, yeah,

Paul (33:58)
No, do think... ⁓ This guy, I'm not... I'm not... But like...

Tobi (34:02)
Paul is his biggest insider. Speak for your

daddy.

Paul (34:08)
This guy, ay yo! Ay yo! Ay yo! Like, I swear, Red Cardio. Like, his... I would say about the explanation of Afrobeat, right? Because I get where it's coming from with that.

Manny (34:10)
DFKM bro like you know Saeed record record record

Tobi (34:15)
You

Peace.

Paul (34:24)
Because like everyone with Thames, not Thames, sorry, Tyler, Grammy gave her the water song as best Afrobeat song, right? So it's like Americans kind of, I don't want to generalize them, but yeah, they put anything that comes, yes, right? So anything that comes out of Africa is Afrobeat. Africa beats Afrobeat, simple as that. So, and when you are so in tune with your art, when you are like, okay,

Manny (34:32)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Tobi (34:36)
Put in the box. I get it cuz it has a pop song. That's an after be such a pop song. Let's Yeah

Manny (34:40)
Fox. Fox.

Yeah.

Paul (34:52)
you're putting months, years into fixing your art very well and someone just goes, nah, that's Afrobeat. Like just, yeah, just.

Manny (34:58)
Yeah, Yeah, bro. He's

Tobi (34:58)
I'm paying you to give me the right girl,

Manny (35:01)
just he's just lazy.

He's like, I'm not even trying anymore. I oh, yeah, I'll focus whatever like, let's get him moving.

Paul (35:05)
Yeah,

exactly. So I kind of get the frustration because you are seeing those or you're just seeing that one video. You're not seeing it on side of like maybe multiple interviews, multiple conversations, having behind the scenes of people just going down. After a while, it kind of annoys you. Like, for example, you mind that into fashion. Imagine someone just like oversimplify.

Tobi (35:13)
I get it though, I get it. It's like putting you in a box. Yeah, it's putting you a box.

Manny (35:18)
Yeah.

Tobi (35:28)
Call you streetwear 2.0 I said I'm making shoes bro streetwear ⁓

Manny (35:30)
I I feel you man, happens man. Now you're 100 % right. It's like Yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I'm making suits. Shoot me, shoot me, shoot me, shoot me, shoot me, shoot shoot me. No, that's crazy. I mean, I can't, no, you're 100 % right. That was a good analogy. I don't know why it's a good analogy because I'm involved or because like it's a good analogy, but you're right though, you're right.

Tobi (35:43)
That's what you know how to do in H2N.

Paul (35:45)
You

Tobi (35:53)
It

makes sense, get it. It makes sense. It's wild.

Paul (35:55)
Because

if someone asks you, hey, yo, can you explain quarter zip hype or streetwear?

Tobi (36:04)
Nike take

Nike Nike take right Nike taking

Manny (36:06)
You know what? That quarter

zip shit, in my head, it just feels like the 6'7' hype. I don't get it. Bro, I've been, sorry, like, bro, I've been doing, yo, quarter zip is that swag, bro. It's been around. It's that swag. It's that swag. Like, don't know, bro, personally, I don't know what the quarter zip shit is, but a lot of people have been like, yeah, the quarter zip,

Tobi (36:13)
You can go now but you can't cut your hair right now. You're not caught in Zimvai

Paul (36:13)
my god.

You

Tobi (36:24)
You're gonna write it here.

Paul (36:24)
Explain

that to me please.

Tobi (36:31)
What is it with matchups?

Manny (36:34)
World Finance Bros, know, them and they're like, just go, just graduated and now they're in corporate. like, you got a little check and like, you know, call those people, call those people. I mean, it's like, I mean, it's the hype for them, right? And I don't mind it like, your thing, my boys, but like, still it's just like, I don't know why that's the hype. I don't know why that's like a thing. That thing existed for such a long time that

Tobi (36:39)
You call him Ramani.

Paul (36:41)
Hehehe

Tobi (36:54)
It's funny though. I think

I get it. So this is a stereotype, that's why.

Paul (36:56)
Wait, So wait, sorry. Just to give an example. what is quarters? Describe quarters, quarter, zip, then talk about. That's the, that's, that's, I thought that's, that's like a dad word now. That's come back to what you said. That's like, yeah, go on.

Tobi (37:02)
It's like a sweater with a quarter zip. That's what it is. It's more like a full zip. So think about it this way. So think about it this way. So typically

Manny (37:05)
That's it. Just bro, zip forget to hear. That's it. It's not a full zip. It's not a full zip.

Tobi (37:15)
when they thinking of black men, they thinking of like, oh, Wayne Sweats, Nike Tech, know, like black air forces. So their mind are trying to like, let's reinvent ourselves now.

Manny (37:23)
why is I tried to be broad.

Tobi (37:28)
We don't want to be, you know, we don't want to be associated with the YS. So what? Come on and be elite. Go to opera and stuff, right? How can we do that? You don't want to show up to an opera wearing Nike tags. It looks like you're not real.

Manny (37:31)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

yeah it definitely it's so funny because

Paul (37:40)
⁓ I saw someone that did that

though. I saw someone that did that hoodie, hoodie, sweatpants. I'm like, bruh, look at everyone around you, your suits, clean clothes.

Manny (37:42)
it reminds me of

Brother, bro.

Tobi (37:49)
That's what they're trying to do this at the corner

zips, right? So you come on thing you looking a little more culprit on the weekend That's when it's a little bit wild on the weekend. You ain't quarter zips that come bro like because you

Manny (37:54)
Nah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I

see that, though. get that. Because that was kind of like the 2010 raves with Jordans and then the other black people that wear suits, like Kanye and Demian, where they went like... I don't know that. And then people are wearing Jordans, but you're wearing like shoes and Chelsea boots, and then you think that you're clean and whatever, right?

Tobi (38:09)
Give me the universe.

Manny (38:18)
Exactly with like yeah, I remember that Chelsea boots man. He's not Chelsea boots. I was like, yeah, it was a great time to be skinny.

Tobi (38:24)
I had one but it was a tie, it was a tie,

Paul (38:29)
What's the hate to Chelsea Boots? I love Chelsea Boots yo

Manny (38:33)
It's

just that some people wear Chelsea boots for all bro. They be wearing Chelsea boots and you can see the ankles and I'm like brother like You can't wear like your the pants you wear your Chelsea boots matter like you shouldn't see the top of your Chelsea boots It should be rising up now we see the Chelsea boots dog like god I don't see that shit you know so

Tobi (38:39)
Yay! Come, let's see how you do it.

Paul (38:42)
How?

Tobi (38:45)
You shouldn't be riding up like that. Don't ride up. Don't ride.

See your ashy legs? Don't rise like that.

Paul (38:56)
So you have to

wear long pants that completely covers it

Manny (38:59)
Yeah,

like, it's meant to, yeah, just lower part of the boots you need to see. You don't need to see the top. Like, brother, you don't need to see the top, bro. Keep that shit to yourself, my boy. I don't see your legs, bro. I don't see that shit. Nah.

Tobi (39:00)
Yeah, that's the whole point.

Don't see the top.

Paul (39:07)
Say you don't want to see ashy legs eh? But it's

funny though, I've seen like those in the quarters, quarters, I've seen it's those sweaters are so like regular, know, it's just like a like

Tobi (39:20)
Yeah, but like we're trying

to get into that space now. That's I The wires are trying to get into that space then I used to shovel from that side of the aisle You're like, know a different demographic shop here. We can join it. I saw some guys say Pull on the glasses, bro. Come on. Just say without his glasses. Look at me scary glasses on I'm a change ⁓

Manny (39:25)
Bro, they just got in. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's nice to hear.

Paul (39:29)
Okay.

Okay.

Manny (39:36)
Yeah.

Fox Fox that shit is true bro. That shit is that shit is true. That shit is true

Paul (39:46)
BLEH!

Tobi (39:49)
He said, put on a quarter zip man. I speak eloquently. ⁓

Manny (39:53)
Yeah, Fox.

Paul (39:53)
you

Manny (39:54)
Expeditiously. Expeditiously. It's funny though. And it's real. It's real. Yeah, 100%. Because the glasses thing is real, bro. The glasses thing is real. Like, when I'm talking to clients, right, I work and I go in my glasses. I always put on my glasses, bro. I put on my glasses. I believe everything I say, bro. Every fucking word. Yes, bro.

Paul (39:56)
That is wild

Tobi (39:57)
it's funny it's funny

it is funny though it is funny let the wires have it let the wires have it

Paul (40:05)
So.

Manny (40:19)
They believe everything I say. They believe everything. I'm like, damn, man, this shit works. This shit works. Probably he's down bold. Probably he's a bold glasses wearing guy. So he doesn't even believe a motherfucker he come across. Exactly. It's a pack, bro. Everyone gonna buy your shit. Everyone gonna buy your shit. Everyone gonna buy your shit. Nah.

Paul (40:22)
Mm-hmm

So some of us that wear glasses regularly then what's...

Tobi (40:29)
Yeah, that's really nice.

Paul (40:33)
And I do wear those quarters. I have like a couple of them sweaters.

Tobi (40:37)
You just started back, now you just started back.

Paul (40:41)
You

Tobi (40:44)
That's

Paul (40:44)
I thought

that was just more like simple, simple wear, like just pants, boots,

Tobi (40:45)
too funny. That's too

Manny (40:47)
Nah, nah. Can't you see Saeed?

Saeed used to be a dread head, used to be a whine. My ex-Rap NBA young boy. Couple exams, couple exams. Nah, he's dread, his swag is, you know, tell. Like, nah, 100, man, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, You never walk in, Lord. You never walk in, Lord. Don't kill me, bro.

Paul (40:53)
Yeah. You know

Tobi (40:54)
What?

If you can't be there you join them bro ski that's like can't be they join them, you know, so that's the life that's the life

Paul (41:07)
That's hilarious. He shaved his head. shaved... When I

first saw Toby before, like dreads of full hair. Next thing, standing walking corporates. Next thing, just see the guy, cuts... Okay, sorry. Braids. Braids. Then next thing, clean shaved, low cuts. Like I'm like, bruh, what happened to you? He's like, man, corporates, corporates, corporates.

Manny (41:14)
Bro! Bro!

Tobi (41:15)
Dread, it's braids bro, it's braids. It's not dread, you gotta get it right. It's braids, not dreads. I'm not a dread head.

Manny (41:21)
Yeah, I got the French bridge, man. Look at all these Look them, bro. Look all these dudes.

Well...

Tobi (41:33)
It's part of the life,

man. grow up, think about it. So you grow up at some point, right? You've been there, done that, you know, and then, you know, you grow up and you elevate yourself, right? And that's meaning of elevating yourself, you know? I still dress casual on the weekends. Don't get it twisted. I still step out, I'm still swaging. I'm still swaging. I'm not looking like one of them, you know, like you gotta be swaging still, so.

Manny (41:42)
Yeah. F**ks, f**ks.

I'm guessing it's wished dead

Paul (41:50)
So you say is

Manny (41:58)
Mm-hmm. Now, he has a copper, bro. I don't even buy anything. I love buying shit, you see. No, Paul has been on that's work for ages now. Paul is long gone, bro. Paul has been gone. Paul got here before you, bro. Sorry.

Paul (41:58)
Get the fuck out of here. What do mean? What do you mean?

Tobi (42:00)
nice i'm not like poor people our people right now ultra skinny pants tight stuff like can't breathe ankles can't breathe right we can't be on that we can't be on that comfortable comfortable

Paul (42:15)
It's so funny.

Thank you. It's so funny that he's like, it's so funny. I'm

Tobi (42:19)
May you

I'm trying to be like Paul. I'm trying to be like Paul.

Manny (42:26)
You just reached your DCA, you just got your DCA, you just your DCA yet and...

Paul (42:31)
like, what's with this quarter zip? So I've been dressing for like a minute now. I've been going for comfort, baggy, clothes.

Manny (42:34)
Yeah, yeah.

Tobi (42:36)
That's what saying. You're shopping from the wrong side of aisle.

We just figured out it was a good side of the aisle to shop at. So they're like, you know what? Let's give our money to this quarter zip. You know, so.

Manny (42:43)
Nah.

It's fine. That's bros,

Tobi (42:48)
No quarters

it ain't fashion blitter For work I don't see quarters it on a weekend. I want to see you the more with a quarter zip. That's a

Manny (42:52)
Yummy.

That's

thing. Yeah, like you went to church you went to work. No, it's no word. but I was fighting doing it was a fight. It was a fighting clients

Tobi (43:01)
Where the church? Yeah, where the work? At home? You grocery runs and you went in quarters it, bro, like, aw.

Paul (43:08)
But wait, hey, hey, that was...

Tobi (43:09)
you do

not doing model level marketing bro. It's actually free.

Manny (43:13)
emote level marketing call myself

some knives nigga honestly, pure miskeem bitches

Paul (43:23)
You

Tobi (43:24)
We finally free this is the OG quarters is ⁓

Manny (43:27)
Man bro, so did you guys

ever have like those like, you know, experience in sales? you know, once in a while, the other one gets you.

Tobi (43:34)
yeah!

I was the one time I was I was in the mall one time I was working right so that came to me. like do you love what you do? I'm like, yeah I'm game. It's like would you let me find out you free? Everybody everybody belatedly free which I'm like we could talk about how you could if I actually free I'm sure I'm sure because I admit this guy is like

Manny (43:42)
That's I hate you with,

Yup, that's how you get it. Would you like to be your own boss? Would you like to be your own boss?

Paul (43:52)
I'm

Manny (44:01)
Road.

Tobi (44:03)
Yes, and this is the thing, you know, can't get name of your family members and sell them some insurance. I'm like, bro. I didn't know. I'd selling my life away to financially free. I'm like, nah, eggs that bro. that. You would do it.

Manny (44:08)
Bro.

Bro they got me with that shit bro they got me with that shit they got me with that shit for like

I did that shit bro not not I didn't think it was bro first of all I broke that shit and then nah no was was it Amway it was Amway Amway Amway Amway Amway bro bro Amway they get you bro cause let me bro but I come out and buy tissue paper and toothpaste I'm like

Tobi (44:19)
What brand? What brand did you do? What brand did you do?

Paul (44:24)
Do you have G?

Tobi (44:25)
You

know, I printed I don't wait one too many fuck and we wrote a little buffer 50 bucks

Paul (44:37)
You

Manny (44:41)
Why would anyone buy that shit from me when it could just go into Safeway or a grocery store? Why me though? ⁓ man.

Tobi (44:47)
They say it's

organically made. I'm like, I'm trying to get the cheapest...

Manny (44:50)
yeah yeah talks

Paul (44:51)
Hehehehehe

Manny (44:52)
to

me about plant me I'm like I'm 23 I don't give a shit about plant me shit like what my business yeah man that shit is crazy man that shit is fucking and you go for other like you go for their meetings yeah they go for their conferences yeah yeah

Tobi (44:59)
That's crazy.

Paul (45:01)
So.

Tobi (45:01)
I remember one time I was in one the conferences bro in like South Carolina.

Someone was like I'm a platinum. Everyone was clapping like a pro. I was just like.

Manny (45:11)
Yeah, yeah, like,

Paul (45:13)
You

Manny (45:13)
oh, Mr Singh and his wife, you're diamond people. Everybody's like, oh my God, what, and my brother, like, you're funny in their lives, bro. What are you talking about? Like, is it a promise here, bro? Like, literally, bro. Ah,

Tobi (45:21)
Crazy man, it's It's crazy

Paul (45:21)
Mm-hmm.

So,

so Manu, how did they get you?

Manny (45:29)
Okay, so I had this friend in and I think I was looking for a job Right. I just like Even in him is he hard is it hard is it hard? I mean, yeah, cuz a lot of these people man We were so bad like I love women but sometimes man y'all just have like wrong information as fuck I don't know people don't do shit. So anyways, ⁓ this baby's like, yeah, she joint Now they got much I see

Paul (45:34)
Shout out to him though. Go on. Shout out to her.

Tobi (45:36)
Shadi! That's a ⁓ hurt,

Paul (45:50)
So wait, are you trying to say only women give wrong information?

Tobi (45:54)
forget Eve did I don't forget?

Manny (45:54)
Yo yo yo yo let us slow down, let us slow down, I'll take you back. I don't want to enter this

dungeon, beg you. Thank you. So, okay so basically yeah.

Tobi (46:03)
Don't forget. If I

let me at the story himself, it would have flipped up. you know, like, second hand information, broski. It's out here right now.

Manny (46:08)
Nah.

Nah.

Paul (46:11)
So

Adam was like nah it's you Eve, I trust you. Give me, me. Let me have a bite.

Manny (46:14)
Yeah, no this was not was this was no

no this was not adam and you shit basically but she gave me like this plug and especially Let me tell my fucking story bro. Give me a second. So anyways, this is baby's like, yeah, like Okay, she hit me off with these people and then literally what toby said red for coffee at

Paul (46:19)
Or is it Adam and Steve? Sorry, which one?

Tobi (46:21)
you

And they're

always on a specific demographic. I ain't gonna speak names but I'm gonna give you a name.

Manny (46:35)
Bro yeah, I ain't gonna say no names yeah, yeah,

especially with demography. And bro especially like, oh yeah, that, you know, this is how the thing works. Just like bro, where's my, talk to me about salary, like what are my earnings? All this shit they are telling me is just work. And this whole shit of you can make whatever you want to. Nah nigga, I need a number bro. Tell me what I'll set it to get at a certain time. Don't be whining me about numbers and shit. And then lastly, so like, oh yeah.

Paul (46:48)
You

Tobi (46:55)
You know what you put in here. ⁓

Paul (46:59)
Stop whining me.

Manny (47:01)
Now you know we meet up

every Wednesday and we drive you, worry, I can pick you up from your crib. We drive to the conference and we'll all talk and discuss about... We're super nice people man, because you'll pick me up from my crib and I was like, four other Nigerians in the fucking car. I was like, this is fucked here. Yeah, and they're against Nigerians, but like crazy. Like I saw a different person, I never spoke to them. I will always sit and tie, go to this place. Next year, talking about numbers, selling, which ones we find actually free. type of working, another type of doing your thing.

Tobi (47:08)
⁓ man, they got you.

I want you to sign up. Yeah, I want you to sign up.

Paul (47:23)
Mhmmm.

Tobi (47:27)
I think they call it PV.

They call it some shit like you point. It's like a point system You gotta get and stuff like that. It's crazy, man

Manny (47:30)
Pee-wee-wah.

Yeah, bro,

long story short, shit was dead ass, bro. That shit... Whoa.

Paul (47:37)
Wait, wait, wait, wait,

Manny (47:39)
Nah, don't bro, it's been a long fucking time. It's been a long fucking time.

Paul (47:40)
wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

Tobi (47:41)
How much did you lose? How much did you lose? How much did lose?

Manny (47:45)
I didn't say anything, I

didn't put anything first of all.

Tobi (47:47)
The sign of fee.

Manny (47:48)
There's also like, didn't get, but I know the descent of fee, descent of fee is what you buy. Like you have to buy some shit from them. That's how you join them.

Tobi (47:55)
Yeah

Paul (47:55)
So

when you enter the car with a suit and tie with Nigerians, paint that picture to me. So it's like, ah, what's going on,

Manny (47:59)
Yeah. Bro,

Tobi (48:01)
I

will let you slide over that. I will let you slide over that.

Manny (48:03)
It's not from like, it's not from like what I'm going for. It's like, you're just seeing people without, you're just seeing some people, right? Nah, bro, no, because I I mean, was, I was very, I was very like, I was very shy. I never actually like.

Tobi (48:09)
Did you like talk to them and give them the eye?

Manny (48:17)
speak up like to anybody if you feel like i'll just see them i'll be like damn i'll be like cool oh mad mad mad but i'm not getting to the place everybody's shaking each other fine it's cool but you know how people come in and tell these stories tell these stories just trying to like amp you up about it will just be very motivational that's one thing about it it's very like salesy it's like trying to gas you don't accept news don't take no for an answer all that bullshit right that's the first one and then i mean but you're

Paul (48:19)
Fair enough.

Tobi (48:31)
motivate you and stuff about the whole thing.

Yeah. Did I say it? Yeah.

Yeah.

Paul (48:46)
Sorry, sorry,

sorry, sorry, sorry. Just to bring it back to that. Don't take no for an answer. Just say, don't take no for an answer. Is it more for business or personal? Because that, stop taking no for example.

Manny (48:47)
Yeah. Can you stop fucking interrupting me, bro? Yeah!

Bro, it depends. Bro,

Tobi (48:56)
No, no, you know you stop,

Manny (48:58)
it's personal. For

me, me, for me, yeah, it was personal. It wasn't like business anything, it was personal because that's how I function, right? But for that work, yeah, like, slow down, slow down, slow down, slow down, slow down. This is no, this is no, bro, why you trying to set my note, bro? God damn. Bro, nah, man. nah, nah. Yeah, don't know, bro, you're done out, you're done out.

Paul (49:03)
Okay.

not taking no financial aid so if your babe tells you no you still not that

Tobi (49:10)
I said, I said don't take no for an answer bro. I'm elite.

Paul (49:14)
I

Tobi (49:18)
Peace.

Paul (49:20)
Sorry,

sorry, sorry. Keep going. Keep going. Sorry, sorry.

Tobi (49:22)
Keep going, keep going. Keep going, keep going.

Manny (49:22)
You actually you actually fried Fried well, man,

I mean long story short was about but I knew it was bullshit. I didn't didn't buy shit, but what you get let me tell you something your first the ticket I think yes can't I was wasting my time going for you thing the ticket to get in is like $500 you have to buy a package from them when you get a package from them, then you gotta sell that package to somebody else and then you get like to be one of your we then

Paul (49:29)
No no no no, stop doing long story short, please.

Tobi (49:31)
What did you buy? You have to buy something.

What did you buy? Did it scare you if you didn't buy shit then?

Paul (49:40)
Mmm.

Tobi (49:43)
Yes, you have to bike.

Paul (49:48)
Mm.

Manny (49:52)
You get a kickback after like maybe like couple months and bro I'm looking for a job I don't need none of this shit. I don't have money to put down and be investing it to And I noticed that the other thing about it is that

Tobi (50:00)
You

Manny (50:03)
People that were trying to recruit me but they nurses bro, were registered nurses. They guys are making rocks. I was just asking like, okay so how much like in all of these things you're doing like how much how much is actually funny in your life? Because you might not go to work, working 12 hour shifts, driving this and you're working this on-way job and that's what's giving you this bar like after a while you might not want it, you might not like bug him bro, know.

Tobi (50:09)
Yeah, had money on them.

Paul (50:09)
yeah.

you

Tobi (50:20)
You got money?

Paul (50:28)
Hehehehe

Manny (50:29)
I don't know man, see some try books and some try jobs, man, to be fair. That was a job. was a job. That That's the truth.

Paul (50:32)
So

it wasn't the Nigerians in the SUV with Tutantai that got it for you. It was more like you gotta buy something.

Manny (50:39)
Nah, well just yeah

everybody out there bro, they're trying to get everybody to buy. They're trying to recruit us so they could be diamond, platinum, yeah. Yeah.

Paul (50:46)
So.

So in the conference,

you everyone shaking themselves and they want to holler at themselves. So everyone all kicked out to suit and tie everywhere in our conference.

Manny (50:54)
bro they go on suit

Tobi (50:55)
It's

interesting.

Manny (50:56)
and tie and bro they have like the main conferences in las vegas and all that shit and they now put that shit on the big screen so all of you are just watching like wow wow it's like like i see a lot of people bro their conferences are like packed bro yeah they had you gotta pay for that shit you feel me so yeah man there people that really did that shit like big time though like i knew of some people that were like

Paul (51:01)
⁓

Mm-hmm.

Tobi (51:05)
There's a lot of people too, right and be like them They sell you the dream. They say you the dream and the car was free to you got to pay for it, too

Manny (51:20)
They were really unable to essentially show so let's show keep one silly madness, bro And you were like trying like just borrow money from the gas to think I'm both for those conferences You're dressing suit and tie. You're going to start grabbing people You can't make no boy. You can't make some people

Tobi (51:28)
I thought you could make money off it for sure though because people have made money off it. No, no, no, no. People have made

money off it but it's off other people's backs. That is how it is.

Manny (51:38)
Bro,

bro or they buy or they have money but they buy like you buy packs of all those things and then they like Reset like they're diamond people. So people are even doing their own kickback They're actually just putting tons of money in it so they can get stuff to us. Yeah Yeah, man

Tobi (51:44)
yeah!

I'm on the back end. Oh, yeah. And you just got

to people under you. Because if you don't have like a sea of minions under you, you're not going to get that money. You've got to have lots of people under you. And it's points from them to like some sort of percentage of their own point. And they've got to be buying. They just cannot be doing that. They've got to be spending as much as you're spending. So you kind of grab and left and you can make it up then. So you can make money, it's just without the people.

Manny (51:56)
There are got CPs yeah and John Oliver from

Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.

bro maybe

when you're like 50 now that you see that please bro that's not what you're talking about you're gonna see that money when you're 50 bro when you go in the pyramid as we build when you build like five pyramids you you start sinking back yeah you don't see shit and then somebody else is making peace the person i recruited you is not making the peace that you're making to like nah fuck that

Tobi (52:24)
That's a point. That's a point. You gotta be at the top of the pyramid to make peas. So you gotta get yourself

Paul (52:27)
financial freedom now. That was financial freedom right there.

Tobi (52:31)
Yeah, I'm not making fees on top of YouTube cuz I want to show it you It's

like a whole cycle to be honest, but their pitch used to be well, you want to start a business You need money to start a business this one. You only need 250 bucks You don't need to have a shop you don't need to have a building you don't need to like I'm just like the medicine's like so easy They could just start tomorrow and then start making money. But yeah ⁓

Manny (52:43)
Yeah, you'll bet my pocket's on it. Right.

Yeah. Yeah, man. And that's one thing, dude. That's one thing you

don't get to know. Like, hey, shit is, bro. Hey, she's sweet. You gotta like... This is bullshit, bro. You gotta do food.

Paul (52:57)
Yeah.

Tobi (52:58)
If it's easy, it's good. I'll it. If it's good.

Paul (53:03)
So how does this compare to those guys online that go, sign off my course, I will teach you how to make money.

Tobi (53:06)
Same same

Manny (53:09)
That was the same shit bro, same shit, same shit.

Tobi (53:09)
type of even crypto right now I love people for more descriptive networks about put your money and you're gonna get 20 % returns scan like yeah, scan scan

Manny (53:17)
Bro, I'm like nah, it's a scam bro, it's a scam. don't know, have

Paul (53:18)
You

Manny (53:24)
you guys, have you guys heard about like Pastor Toby and Spock Nation? Have you guys like, you guys follow that shit? Bro, that shit is crazy bro. Yeah. Okay, so Spock Nation, Spock Nation, Spock Nation is a quote unquote, is a quote unquote church in the UK, is a church organization.

Tobi (53:28)
yeah, taking out loans and taking out loans and all those names.

Paul (53:29)
No, what's that? Wait, wait, wait,

wait, wait, wait, wait, one second, one second. So tell us what, for people that don't know what you're talking about. So break it down for us.

Tobi (53:39)
I know what it means Lord, I know it's fact.

off into my name

Manny (53:46)
Yeah, and then he's led by Pastor Toby as well and No, no, no, it's not possible. Yeah, no relations. But it'll be basically the authentic of any people offended the guy so Yeah, man, so that's the guy and you got basically does it in the UK and he's like just being like it's very like I mean, it's been long investigated for fraud charges

Tobi (53:49)
Not me though, but yeah... No relation, no relation, no relation.

any of you in Fendi show your dream show your drift

Much.

Manny (54:12)
misleading the youth, like young people, teenagers, like take out loans, so they can be able to give seed in church, right? So the guy's like, yeah, we need to donate, we're gonna raise 400,000 and all those type of things, right? So lot of people have voices speaking about him and just committing fraud, but no one actually understood how the system actually works. And then there's this guy.

Tobi (54:24)
Yeah.

It was doing it, you know.

Paul (54:31)
Okay.

Manny (54:32)
Called bouncer play dirty like his one podcast like you can only podcast I just be chatting party guy like us and again, basically this whole breakdown He did a whole breakdown on YouTube recently and it was just going like we're just revealing everything I'm broad. It's just like I think he has all these young people right that court themselves pastors under him ⁓

Tobi (54:41)
you

Paul (54:48)
Okay.

Tobi (54:53)
Yeah, you pastors.

Manny (54:54)
the youth pastors right and they're always talking like bro they're like public speakers man just like you know me and you are going to share that band that you are going to share the best together what do you mean and so basically what Soma does one of his one of his pastors right is Soma called ⁓ Maryamola or some shit

And what she does is basically recruits girls into into her into her own under her leadership and She has this talk called the love house or whatever right and then in this love house They basically have like easy big is a crib and she basically houses all these young girls that maybe they're homeless or you're on your from home or whatever so she

Paul (55:15)
interesting.

Tobi (55:18)
Yeah, yeah, I meant to

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Paul (55:32)
Hmm.

Manny (55:33)
as them pain rents bro not even pain rents, just like has everybody in the group chat that joins that love house joins that fact shows yo you people need to make one thousand pounds this week i wanna hear nothing i don't want to hear anything that if i tell you to raise four hundred pounds you are raising that four hundred pounds go out and get it i don't care how you are getting it blah blah blah she gets them to bro she talks i wish i could play like a clip i wish i could play a clip from her i don't know if you guys can

Paul (55:54)
Ay yo.

Tobi (55:55)
I don't care how you get that money, you get that piece

Paul (55:57)
Get that money

Tobi (55:59)
man.

Manny (56:00)
she's really on

it like she's basically like tell him you are getting it one gets it that obviously seed line that we're raising that parcel to her key or 500 can't reason that shit and she basically has people taking all loans in their names

Tobi (56:06)
Yes,

They only

Manny (56:13)
They are not doing repayment to the bank. So just running your racks on your names and your credits. And that's how they make money bro. that's how they basically get peace. they don't need to peace to pass. don't need pass. They don't need also, know, maybe give them a kick back. But you see their Instagram bro, like, she boss type of vibes. know, leaders in church talking about, God said my nigga, like, bro, just stop, you know? And I mean, it's crazy bro. That's just what's going on today, man. It's like, young people are trying to

Paul (56:15)
That's crazy.

Yeah.

Jeez.

.

Manny (56:42)
like get money you know but everybody's trying to get money and just try to get like find somewhere that will bust them up but it's like bro like at the end of the day when it comes to like being out of school and trying to make money other ways and all of those ways will kill you bro like I can't even lie you're not gonna survive I'll say just go to school bro and get your shit

Tobi (56:43)
We're trying to get quick,

Paul (56:43)
quickly.

Mm-hmm.

Tobi (56:56)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Paul (57:01)
That is wild. So is it like trafficking to an extent? Because you said like homeless people, she takes them and then makes them work. Go sell yourself to make that money for me.

Manny (57:08)
I don't say it's trafficking because you like the avenue. You still

have to sell yourself but they give you a way, give you a strategy. You want to use your name, you want to get a credit card, go and run up your finances. If you're working in any establishment, whatever money you're making from that establishment, bring it back here. Bring it back here. There's not even any choice. If you don't bring that money back here, get out of the crib. That's basically it.

Tobi (57:17)
I'm good, yeah.

to this, yeah.

I feel like it's selling like a community right that's like kind of like the idea of it's like it's a collective of us and not like an individual like I saw another podcast a couple years ago and they were like we will wear clothes and we'll share like our designer clothes together like Manny my Manny my weather's on Monday you know I get on Friday but you going out and recruit me as a young man I just see you like yo that's a Moncler like you think it's that money but it's not yours

Manny (57:45)
Bro, they do that shit. They do that shit. Yup.

Yeah, this thing is working in Montlezie. Yeah,

Paul (57:55)
you

Manny (57:59)
it's not. Yeah, man. Yeah.

Tobi (57:59)
It's your daily wear. It's your daily wear. But they don't know that they'll come

in here and they like start using them or they'll tell them you got to walk your way up to become a pastor now. And it's just like a whole, it's like a pyramid. Whole pyramid. It's crazy. It's a head honcho.

Paul (58:07)
Hmm.

Manny (58:08)
Yeah, is it yeah, is it all turned on the skin with possible to be the Lord?

He's the head on show.

Paul (58:17)
So then online he comes out to show like ⁓ I see

Tobi (58:17)
It sucks that they can't charge him. That's why it sucks because he's not going out there.

It's like a psychological crack. He's not going out there putting a gun to your head saying go take a loan under your name. But psychologically using the Bible and know authority.

Manny (58:24)
Yeah.

I don't

even to bring the bible in here bro because if you see Pastor Toby performing in church or the choir you guys are this choir is boring this choir is boring what are you singing? I'm singing rubbish bro

Paul (58:37)
except performing.

Tobi (58:41)
Yeah, yeah, stop.

You stop on prison on what she's planning. I saw a video one time. All three were showing their shoes. Like, show your adress. Show you. And people just got bunch of designer shoes and just showing their shoes up there and dancing. I'm just like, is this the whole point of church? Like, what's going on?

Manny (58:49)
Yeah, show your drip.

Nah, golden

calf vibes bro, golden calf vibes bro. Let's love the golden calf demos. But yeah man, like I mean it's interesting man, is an interesting place. You guys have seen that Bentley Amp thing as well right? Like, people to football. Yeah.

Paul (59:09)
Yeah.

Tobi (59:10)
Shout out shout out shout out you better even though Madrid

you drew today, but yeah, what you what you think about it though

Manny (59:16)
Yeah,

the racism or which part?

Tobi (59:20)
Like what's your opinion about the whole situation? you think he's like, I really can't do you think like the hate is too much and you think.

Paul (59:22)
you

Manny (59:27)
I just think I think we were I feel like one thing I never understand about football is kind of like why I don't I never understand why they won't take out the soul of things it's like somebody's trying to like you know so why he's playing football it needs confidence you need to be arrogant because you're position or are we are playing opponents right so for instance I want me to be humble for me oh yeah guys yeah you substituted me everything is fine I don't get what's a young boy like bro I'm a grown-ass man bro like

Paul (59:34)
you

Tobi (59:40)
You need another aura.

Yeah.

Paul (59:55)
huh.

Tobi (59:55)
My drisks, bro,

Manny (59:55)
I feel like I'm the best, you

feel me? I mean, Madrid. Bro. Man, this nigga is mad.

Tobi (59:58)
don't think I know what's wrong with you, bro. Like you take out you can take out them and that's fine. ⁓ Yeah, what's wrong with you?

Manny (1:00:06)
I don't know, this

guy's looking like he needs to 3-0 to show a damn. Crazy, crazy, bro.

Tobi (1:00:09)
You

Paul (1:00:10)
Yeah, I that. I think it's just it's

more like media, right? Because it's hate is what sells, right? That's what get interactions online. And it's like, because that those guys are competing with how many different outlets and it's nasty work. Right. Then it's I just think England, the way they the way they portray England players is just nasty. The media specifically, not because everyone else is like, what?

Tobi (1:00:16)
Yeah, I forgot my own.

Manny (1:00:17)
Yeah.

Paul (1:00:35)
what's going on like what happened like there was not

Tobi (1:00:37)
I want to say, I

want to say, I think any player is not of what they like. I'm not about to tell you about telling was younger. Any little thing he does be on the front news. And it's just like, this guy live bro. It's not, obviously he's not a quiet guy. He like likes to be out there and for them is why are you out there? We, it's like, how dare you be out there showing you got money? It's like, you should be hiding. You should be thankful that you're here right now. And it's just like, bro, like I worked for this. me, let me live life.

Manny (1:00:44)
Mmm.

Yeah.

Paul (1:00:48)
Yeah.

Manny (1:00:56)
Yeah, how dare you.

Paul (1:00:57)
Yeah,

yeah. Yeah. Yeah. ⁓

Tobi (1:01:06)
If it's someone else doing it over a different demographic, whoever, they'll be like, it's fine. know, let boys be boys. It is what it is. It is what it is.

Manny (1:01:13)
Yeah, yeah, let boys be boys. He went out and drank

Paul (1:01:13)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. ⁓

Manny (1:01:17)
and slapped the woman. Oh, boys will be boys. It was a tough night with the lads. It was a great night with the lads, a black guy doing it. Goddamn.

Tobi (1:01:19)
It is real.

Paul (1:01:24)
Yeah

Tobi (1:01:22)
Nice crazy dog.

He's crazy dog. ⁓

Paul (1:01:26)
It's like cuz it's you could see there's one it's like if they like you they like you no matter what you do like how Liverpool football club for example is a media darling so they can never be wrong No, man, everyone though everyone calm down Toby Toby. Calm down. Calm down Just one second. Everyone though even though everyone though the cell even though they've like spent a whole country's GDP right? It's still like ⁓ give them time they need time, right?

Manny (1:01:34)
Yeah, right, right.

Tobi (1:01:36)
No, ⁓

Manny (1:01:39)
Toby, calm down. Toby, calm down. Let's let the post speak.

Yeah, yeah, they

Paul (1:01:49)
Then there's twice, like,

Manny (1:01:49)
broke the world record twice.

Tobi (1:01:51)
I failed, poor dude.

Paul (1:01:53)
it's give them time, right? But for some other people, Bokbah, for example, is like, nah, there's no time, Sancho, there's no time, you know, getting.

Manny (1:01:54)
You're fu- Yeah.

Tobi (1:01:57)
You're not getting the point.

Manny (1:01:59)
I can't

believe Pogba is stressing up after we lost.

Tobi (1:02:00)
I'll break it down for you. I'll break it down for you. I'll use ESAC and for example, when you look at ESAC, does it give you a vibe of a swagger list course? No, he doesn't. He doesn't. doesn't. Let's be real. No, let's be real. He doesn't.

Manny (1:02:10)
Yes, yes, he gives me ego. He gives me ego. He's arrogant. He's arrogant. He's very arrogant. I've been,

Paul (1:02:11)
No, no.

Manny (1:02:18)
I've been real. He's arrogant. He's arrogant.

Paul (1:02:19)
Hehehehehe ⁓

Tobi (1:02:20)
He knows he doesn't. You look at someone

like Pogba for example. You look at someone Pogba for example, right? It's just the way he carries me. He has that aura and that belief in him. And I think that's the problem. He has that belief in himself. It but like... It does, but when you see Isak outside of the game, you just look at a regular dude. If he wasn't playing football, you wouldn't even be like... You'd be thinking this guy is just a regular guy cashier, like don't know, at the grocery store or something. You don't see... You I mean? It's not insulting, but that's just how he carries himself.

Manny (1:02:30)
So Asa doesn't have the belief in himself. When Asa is falling up and down, he doesn't have the belief in himself at me.

Paul (1:02:33)
Hmm

No.

Manny (1:02:45)
Wow.

Paul (1:02:46)
Yeah.

No.

Tobi (1:02:49)
He

doesn't look at how that for example the way he carried himself super confident and he helps and you can see it in his game That's I play what's occurred himself super confident color in his hair different things. That's his expression and they didn't like that They were just like he's not about the fee at this point. They could have bought this guy for 20 million. It's to get critiqued. They had a reason But they had to figured out a reason now the fee was like we have a not to jump on it now if it was 20 minute bill I was wasting money wasted Thailand. He's not his head is not in the game

Paul (1:02:53)
Yeah.

No.

Yeah.

Nah bro, the fee was a big thing. The fee was a big one. Yeah, fair enough. Fair enough.

Tobi (1:03:18)
Almost like what they're doing to Lémi Yamal right now. Almost similar to what they're doing. Like, yeah, people hate Lémi Yamal, but it's like, he's sometimes a little too braggadocious or trying to party. You're like, he's not too focused on the game. You know, he's distracted. He's just like...

Manny (1:03:18)
you

But really

well grilles looks like he came from a night out every single time that looks fried 100m that guy looks like he literally had a sex tour the night before each had like dead bed pints and now all of a sudden, you know ⁓

Tobi (1:03:35)
No one though yeah, but no one complains.

Paul (1:03:35)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yep.

Tobi (1:03:42)
Mm-hmm.

Double standards, it sucks the way it

Paul (1:03:47)
Yeah,

no, again, right. It is is double. That's what my point I was trying to make with media talents is like, if you could look back, right? We're ruining what did to ruin it. It's like, oh, if you're going out, oh, look at him. He was partying. He was doing this. He was doing that back. Like he was I know there was a situation where he was boxing with a friend and he knocked him out. That made it headline news that, oh, he is dangerous play and everything.

Tobi (1:03:48)
It's a double standard in game.

Mm-hmm.

Manny (1:04:06)
yeah, yeah. ⁓

Tobi (1:04:11)
But we're in is one of

the mandem you can see the way he himself kind of like a mandem. It's just how you carry yourself

Paul (1:04:14)
Right, right. Because

exactly. Then a perfect example to me is Ronaldo and Messi. Messi is this media darling. Oh my goodness. Messi can never do no wrong. And Ronaldo is like, why are you proud? Why are you walking with your shoulders high? Why are you doing this? Why are you doing that? Why even with the fact that Ronaldo doesn't have no tattoos, donates blood regularly, doesn't take alcohol, is very strict. No, I'm not.

Tobi (1:04:35)
I'm trying to be you know, don't care right now.

Manny (1:04:37)
man it's not

driving around on the but you do yo did you did you do why don't you just he's like PR for me and he looks like he looks like he grew shoe stock cashier like bro like what the fuck was that comment sorry first of all we need to address that we need to address that please we need to address that

Tobi (1:04:39)
He's biography, bro

Paul (1:04:43)
Exactly. everyone,

Tobi (1:04:54)
Like I mean, I'm a Z-man, I'm a-

Paul (1:04:55)
everyone, wait one second, everyone with self-blatter, right? FIFA president the other time when they were like, Messi is such a humble guy. Ronaldo is military, working like that. And it's like, even at the point that Ronaldo had to do that celebration of like, going like to show that teasing, like I'm a military person, right? So I'm gonna, I'm gonna do that. So I,

Tobi (1:04:59)
Said it would be a good song or something like that,

Manny (1:05:10)
yeah, yeah, yeah, what's doing? Yeah.

Paul (1:05:13)
Definitely there's racism involved in certain players. 100%. What's the stereotype? Yeah.

Manny (1:05:16)
It's just stereotypes. It's just stereotypes of working class that they're obsessed with.

You want to be a working class player. Like, don't show off. Yeah, like, look at him, he's humble. Like, bro, like, come on.

Paul (1:05:24)
Conti, for example.

Tobi (1:05:28)
Yeah, they

want people like can't tell them people like yeah to read because you are to me had we don't speak English well

Manny (1:05:34)
Thank you so much.

Paul (1:05:35)
Rodri,

see Rodri right? Rodri winning Balon job because oh is this humble guy. He just does the work, right? Exactly. He's like, oh Rodri is humble Vinny's out there. He's like, oh this, this, this, this, this. Yeah. So a hundred percent. It's just very heavy stereotype of like, if they like you, they will let you get away with so many things if they like you. as long as once they don't like you, if you breathe,

Tobi (1:05:40)
Venice should have won that, you know what I mean? So that's the thing.

Manny (1:05:42)
And then I'll...

Tobi (1:05:46)
How spoken, yeah.

Manny (1:05:58)
Yeah.

Paul (1:05:59)
Even though you're just breathing, it's like, why are you breathing out loud? You should be quietly.

Manny (1:06:02)
yeah

look at him he's just huffing up huffing all over the place

Paul (1:06:05)
You

Tobi (1:06:06)
And you know.

Like

I said if it's if it's someone of color Yeah, if it's someone that's white if he's part of the man, then he's getting a stick back. Thank you Thank you. I'm to stick to because he part of man Whatever they like we call this guy now

Manny (1:06:20)
But no, the man down there. Yeah, probably the man down there. The guy's bridging his hair, dying his hair. Bro,

Paul (1:06:24)
⁓ my god.

Manny (1:06:30)
he's wearing... Nah. They got way too high. got nigger eyes. What's happening with them? got nigger eyes. Nah. It's something with the nigger gun. nigger ray gun. Goddamn.

Paul (1:06:30)
Yeah, yeah, because if... Same man there, Toby.

Tobi (1:06:34)
They're like, the fuck is this guy?

Manny (1:06:44)
Nah, One day, bro, nah.

Tobi (1:06:47)
Everyone has to have that like swagger licious adjacent if there's a regular guy like grillies, for example ⁓

Manny (1:06:47)
It's Fox.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, bro, literally,

can have an accident. You can't crash your Ferraris, bro. You don't care,

Tobi (1:07:03)
You don't care. But if

someone is black and they're like, ⁓ yo, what's going on, man? It's like he's not being humble. He's not doing this. He's not doing that. It's crazy, though. It's crazy. Shout out to Bellum, though. Shout out to Bellum.

Manny (1:07:10)
Yeah, Yeah, shout

out to Yanraite for defending him though because like I mean I like the fact that Yanraite spoke out in front of Roy King, Gary Neville Yeah, yeah, and I'm happy Yanraite is able to like establish his voice, you know in those spaces too, you know I everybody's kind of like a bit sensitive and it's needed man, it's needed

Tobi (1:07:20)
Because if you didn't, would have tried to be dumb. They would have tried to be dumb.

I don't like that Javi

Barnes guy or the other guy that don't be doing nothing. Don't be doing nothing. Shit. Don't be doing nothing.

Manny (1:07:35)
dude, those guys in shoesports, those white guys, dog sports, yeah, those whites, old men, that was like, yeah,

Paul (1:07:39)
Talksports.

Manny (1:07:43)
but because he's getting paid 200 pounds a week, doesn't mean he can walk around with his head high. Like, I get that you play for Real Madrid, but this is England. This is England. Like, bro, come on. Yeah, yeah. Nah, nah, son.

Paul (1:07:46)
Hehehehehe

Tobi (1:07:53)
They have no swag so they can't they can't get it. That's the thing. You can't get it me. They ain't got no swag

Paul (1:07:57)
Mm-hmm. But I mean,

at the end, people have their journeys, right? So you can't really speak on a journey that you've never been on. saying that, no, no. What I'm trying to say is the Ian Wright's conversation, right? He has experienced some form of it. So his own perspective towards it is different. Because everyone in Garnierville was like, yeah, like,

Manny (1:08:05)
Bro, what comes to the world where everybody speaks on the journey? Everybody speaks on your journey, bro.

Tobi (1:08:16)
yeah, cause he must know to write. Yeah.

Manny (1:08:16)
Yeah, Fox.

Fox, yeah.

Paul (1:08:22)
It took me over a year to get it. When Sterling came and said this to me, and then a year later I saw like a page when they were all Sterling spent money on his mom's house folding all such a nice songs. Yes.

Manny (1:08:24)
Yeah.

Tobi (1:08:25)
Mm.

Don't worry again.

Manny (1:08:33)
Bro!

Tobi (1:08:33)
the media, the different description of exactly the same thing, but the way they

Manny (1:08:36)
Bro,

bro, Sterling going gun tattoo and he bashed the guy. Phone in literally he's doing AK-47 celebration. No word. God damn. ⁓ man. Yeah, for an hour or some shit.

Tobi (1:08:43)
We play this for sale again.

Paul (1:08:43)
Yeah, yes. So you see, like, like,

Tobi (1:08:48)
I don't remember, I Cavani got banned for doing something like arrows I was bro what's going on? Maybe he's been

doing this stuff, he's thrown arrows and he's getting banned for I was like what's going on there?

Paul (1:08:55)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. So it's like, the reason why I made that point was just more like, when he finally understood, this is what this person was talking about, then he he writes as a black, this now struggle to get to where he was. So he go. Yeah, so you go left, right and center. But I mean, all the main thing is that if someone else is telling you that they you listen, right, you don't

Tobi (1:09:06)
So it's going through, yeah.

You have to work hard.

Paul (1:09:21)
It's not every time you gotta argue or no, no, no, this is a different point of view. We just gotta listen. And they all listened. They gave him this thing, all listened. And yeah, moving on from that.

Tobi (1:09:24)
Yeah.

Manny (1:09:27)
Yeah.

Tobi (1:09:32)
Also,

Manny (1:09:32)
Yeah.

Tobi (1:09:32)
I also blame the coach. I also blame the coach to though I blame to show to for like almost giving fire to the media essentially come by like Like oh you got to play for the team someone like you got to like respect. I'm like, bro, what you doing? That's what the media wants you that they need that headline They want that headline. Look at his manager now. Remember when he it's crazy

Manny (1:09:40)
I don't like that so-called guy, man. I don't like that guy.

Paul (1:09:42)
Hehehehe

Yeah.

Manny (1:09:53)
I find all these managers to be weak people man. Especially because I feel like, because people used always make that statement about Atteta that, oh Atteta wants to just control his players, he doesn't want anybody else pick up again, he doesn't want ego. No, I don't think so bro, I don't think so. I think he has a caveat to it. I think he has a caveat to it for example. If you have that ego bro, I wanna see that shot on the pitch. I wanna see you make decisions with.

Paul (1:09:59)
you

It does.

Tobi (1:10:15)
Yeah, I don't like ego but Harlan

Paul (1:10:15)
Mm-hmm

Tobi (1:10:18)
he keep performing you can't talk about no ego

Manny (1:10:19)
You can't talk to him about

Paul (1:10:20)
Yeah. ⁓

Manny (1:10:21)
like bro he's on

form I stand because you're able to like I'm benefiting from you being arrogant right? ⁓ You're playing dog shit bro and then I saw the end of his scene I'm like brother like you were playing trash like don't worry bro hey why don't get to the dressing room I wanna play your tape so you can't see this shit bro

Paul (1:10:27)
Mm-hmm. Say brother. Explain

Tobi (1:10:28)
Yeah, don't be a bad man. Don't be a bad man when you go with no results.

Paul (1:10:45)
yourself. Comment, explain yourself.

Manny (1:10:46)
Like what took all

right to go to cool like I saw a clip of on back me coming out of the pitch I don't shake your bitch ass, bro. He has like check me. I'm like brother. I don't want to shake you What is the problem?

Tobi (1:10:51)
or any we're trying to shake him or something and he's trying to like

I'm angry right now, bro.

And it's like sometimes it might never be about the coach. He might be angry with himself I'm just like I'm disappointed myself. I just need to dig have this team Let me be because my black for the media bro, like cameras are on right now. You gotta shake me

Paul (1:11:04)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Manny (1:11:10)
Yeah, yeah.

Bro, like why do care about

Paul (1:11:15)
You

Manny (1:11:15)
the camera? Look at that look man and his coach for example too. And the coach is like, like bro, fuck off. Like if your players have emotions, that is a good thing. I want you to be angry. Like daddy fired, yeah.

Paul (1:11:27)
It's the worst panoptetica ever.

Manny (1:11:27)
Yeah, I'm just like, but someone won you a trophy and you're on this. Like, I don't know, man. They're

embarrassing, man. I can't lie.

Tobi (1:11:35)
Italy is a different breed for sure bro, Italy is a breed

Paul (1:11:38)
like

I just I'm like when I saw that statement I'm just like imagine myself I'll work and like and just in the group message I'll work my my boss just goes Paul is the worst this I'm like HR straight up yo HR I'm reporting

Manny (1:11:39)
Nigeria is going through it in that country.

Tobi (1:11:47)
To the whole team, to the whole team!

Manny (1:11:52)
Bro.

Tobi (1:11:54)
Was it was to me and I had the coconut video. I remember seeing I'm a coconut coconut coconut take up Making fun of him. He's on club

Paul (1:11:58)
yeah.

Manny (1:12:00)
No, this is the... what do you like? Racist video?

Paul (1:12:05)
Yeah,

yeah, I that

Manny (1:12:06)
No man, no. It's trash, like, I don't know man. It's trash. The fact that I was seen as I was seen as club, but if I seen a man, I white, bro. Different career path, cause...

Tobi (1:12:07)
Italy is crazy league for sure.

Paul (1:12:12)
Sure.

Tobi (1:12:17)
You'll be in

Chelsea or Arsenal right now.

Manny (1:12:18)
You being

Chelsea bro, but Chelsea I don't blame them. Chelsea has spent 100 million on trash like back to back to back They are traumatized they feel me like they bought the couple for 100 times they bought Ukuku for how much 90 plus or 80 plus it's like they've they've and they not bought They spent a lot on strikers and didn't get any return in like in the two years past so that's that I mean they are traumatized bro

Paul (1:12:22)
Hehehehehe

NOTHING.

Tobi (1:12:35)
It's really like, yeah.

I guess they got Nicola Jackson and they we gotta stay for the blacks, man. We gotta take a break.

Paul (1:12:42)
I just like how.

Ayo! Ayo!

Manny (1:12:46)
Yeah man, yeah man, yeah man, like, yeah man, I think

you're bleak for blacks, man, like, yeah, I can't, I don't even believe that. I don't even believe that. Yeah man, yeah.

Paul (1:12:51)
Ayo! This motherfucker. The bomb-odrich.

Tobi (1:12:56)
This is we can't do with these Africans. We gotta take a break.

Paul (1:13:01)
Toby, Saeed, I know that cardio, that's just cold.

Tobi (1:13:02)
you

Manny (1:13:05)
Nah,

I loved it, I love it, man. love it.

Paul (1:13:09)
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Manny (1:13:33)
Listen to everywhere

you find your podcasts as well. Anywhere you find me, to podcasts, Apple, Spotify, we're there. Yeah. Peace guys. Peace.

Paul (1:13:37)
Yep.

Stay safe.

Tobi (1:13:41)
Safe.