The Disappearance of Tiffany Heaven Daniels

This month marks the 10th anniversary of Tiffany Heaven Daniels' sudden disappearance from Pensacola Beach.  On  August 12, 2013, Tiffany left work at Pensacola State College, where she worked as a theater technician, and was never seen again.  Eight days after her disappearance, Tiffany’s car was found parked at Pensacola Beach. Her wallet, cell phone, bicycle, water bottles, and other personal items were found inside.  Chris reviews Tiffany's case and weighs in with her experienced insights. 

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People always want to know what it's like to be me. How does it feel to see a dead body, tell a family their loved one has been murdered, talk to a rape victim, catch a killer, and get them to confess, hold on tight, my friends, get ready for the journey. And welcome to murder with mannina. Hello, everyone, and welcome to another edition of murder with mannina. Again, we appreciate all the listening and rates and reviews, please continue to do that, please continue to tell your friends about us. And we're really kind of trying to deep dive into talking about cold cases across the country for a couple of days in the hopes to get it out there get a little bit more, you know, traction and trying to solve it. And then you never know listeners have a great amount of information that they may not even know about until we talk about these cases. So we're going to be talking about one today that happened in Florida. So if you have any friends in Florida, let them hear this episode in the interest never know, right? Like we're seeing that over and over kind of right is researching and listening to podcasts that people are solving this stuff. It's true. It's true. We're gonna be talking to Detective Seaman from Ohio. And he did just that he he put in a really old Cold Case out in the media hoping to get some leads and boom, yeah, we're, well luckily now the case is heated up. So yes, people are intrigued by crime. And we know that with all the different crime shows, but people I think the end of the day, want to be detectives to some degree or at least intrigued enough of these cases. And really, you know, want to help. So that's what our goal is here on this podcast, throw in a lot of my experiences, but also talk about these cold cases, there are so many of them across the country. Do you Do you even have a number? Like of how many cold cases are in the United States? Like I thought I heard last time I Yeah. Last time I checked. Last time I checked, it was 200,000. Who knows now, but it seems like more. They're starting to be solved. Even though they're 2030 years old. They're getting they're being solved either because the podcasts will focus on it, and then do what you do, which is just cast a wide net and interview a bunch of people I know it leads to a conviction it did three times last year on podcast, or DNA genealogy. And we'll be talking to Detective Seaman about how he solved a case doing that. So there's genealogy and there's so much so many advancements there. So it can't just seems like it really is. It really is gaining a lot of traction, you know that that cases are actually not only just out there in multitudes, but actually being soft now, right? In this case that we're going to talk about today was actually on Investigation Discovery, they did a did a show called disappearance. So she was highlighted on that. So we'll get going with this. But listeners, I really want you to pay attention and see if you know you can add to the conversation, maybe something we're even missing and other ideas because I think cold cases are just a good opportunity to get everyone's kind of input. They hear things differently. They see things differently and, and things that we miss, so please pay attention to this and let us know what you think. And we'd love to have you on the podcast to chat about it or at least talk about what your ideas are. So again, her name was Tiffany Daniels. She was born March 11 in 1988 in Dallas, Texas. She disappeared though she was 25 years old when she disappeared in August of 2013 from Pensacola, Florida. My favorite places Florida my 50th or no was it? Were we in Pensacola for my 50th Now we're in Panama City. I don't know where the hell yes, it was Pensacola. That's exactly where we were my 50th Beautiful. Yeah, so she was five foot seven. She had blond hair and blue eyes. And she had tattoos on the top of her feet of seeds growing into vines that bloom at the top. So just you know some really good things to look at when you're looking for people with these tattoos. So here we go. This is the deal with her now guys pay attention and try to follow along. We're trying to do this as slowly as we can. But at 443 on August 12 of 2013. She left her job is a theater technician at Pensacola State College in Pensacola, Florida. She told her supervisor that she would not be returning for a few days, but did not say why She did return home briefly after that conversation with her boss. And she had a roommate, but, but he was busy on telephone conversation and did not see her. She has literally not been seen since, like literally not been seen since. Because she had told her supervisor she'd be taking time off. She was not recorded missing until the end of the week, which just breaks my heart. I hate to hear that. Buzz wasted just so many ways today, so, but she wasn't reported till the end of the week after she failed to return to work. Her friend, friends and family were unaware of any plans that she might have made. That would explain her absence, which just makes me a little bit like, I don't know, I guess I'm 52 are going to be 52. I talked to my mom, at least a couple times a week, two or three times a week and I don't know if I don't answer the phone, my mom will just incessantly keep calling until I do. So. I mean, you know, I don't know what kind of family dynamics it appears that she had a pretty good family but you know, for them not to be aware that she was going on vacation or going somewhere seems a little bit odd. And that's maybe why you know, it's it's not a big deal that a week went by I guess with not hearing from her but okay, a security camera on the Pensacola Beach bridge connecting Gulf Breeze and Santa Rosa islands recorded her car crossing the bridge almost three hours after she had left work. Eight days after her disappearance, the vehicle is found in a parking lot in Pensacola Beach, along with her bicycle, purse and cell phone. That a waste just screams an abduction does it not? I mean it just does. But could she have been going hiking maybe but I think she would still take her cell phone. I can I can by the bicycle being left I can almost by her purse being left but not or so our cell phones like a part of our body. I feel like right. So residents most people to most people, right so residents in the area. So the car had only been there a few days and reported seeing an Unidentified Male around it to identify and unidentified fingerprints were found in the car. But he searched the surrounding beach area found no trace of Daniels. Alright, so there we have to at least two people that were hanging around the vehicle, several theories. And of course, that's good. I'm alright with theories, even when they're kind of off the wall because it just kind of still gets traction and it gets the conversation going even with crazy theories, it gets people talking about it. But a few theories that have come out, ranging from foul play to an accidental drowning, based on an anonymous tip and several reporting sightings further west along Interstate 10. Her family believes she was a victim of human trafficking in in may still be alive. So that's an interesting, right. So a victim of human trafficking when you kind of look she doesn't to me from kind of the research that we've done doesn't fit the profile right of what is the profile of someone who gets captured for him is somebody who's vulnerable, really vulnerable. You're looking at runaways, you're looking at people that are desperate for drug addicts, drug addicts are looking at people that are desperate for money. Maybe they're getting out of an abusive relationship. So they ran I mean, just really vulnerable. And so they get propositioned fairly easy by being promised a better life being promised money for them and maybe further family just don't have a lot, right? Just don't and don't have any support system, those types of things. So really vulnerable. And I get I guess, Chris Oh, that makes sense. Now that I think about it, because I was always under the assumption that a perfectly confident, capable girl like a Tiffany heaven Daniel's that that was her full name, right. Tiffany heaven Daniels. So, I mean, she was, you know, she really had a very full life. Yeah, a lot of friends. She was into swing dancing, and she'd have gatherings and have people over and swing dance. You know, I do that. And I love that. So I relate to that. So she was very well connected. So it does sort of make sense that a human trafficking person if they did kidnap a person like her, she's not vulnerable enough to stay put really like she would be hard to keep. Yeah, keep as a as a slave, right? Because she's got so many so much going on. And also she's just got the confidence in the life experience, to not fall to be in that victim position. I never thought about that. I just assumed like people like her words. completely kidnapped and put into jail. I mean, I mean, you say it like that it does make sense that yet probably not. Yeah, well, yeah, you can't close any door. Right. You know, as a detective investigating, even though it had been a week, you know, one of the first things that we want to do is get the background, you know, just like in a lot of the cases that we're talking about, you know, detectives learn background of drug use or background of, you know, lifestyles that can be, you know, dangerous. And so, when you look at her background, like I mentioned before, she's a native of the Dallas, Texas area. But she was distinguished herself in high school and through interest in art and had a really outgoing personality. Her family described her as free spirited, said she could often lift the mood of those around her simply with her presence. Daniel's enjoy, she enjoyed painting and in virtually took a job at Pensacola State College theater in Florida, where she painted sets. So she's interested, like you said, and she was talented. Did you see her at some of her work? I saw some pictures. Yeah, she was very talented. It seemed like she was good at what she enjoyed. So she went to a job or you know, it didn't seem like it was a job. It was just something that she could do that she really enjoyed. When she wasn't at work, she took advantage of Pensacola as culture on natural attractions. In the city downtown near her job, she often organized and attended blues and swing dance parties. So just very much into the community. From her house, a short distance from the Bob Sykes bridge to Santa Rosa Island in the Gulf of Mexico, she often went hiking or biking in the dunes. So that can be something that that you know, we got to remember that right is as far as an abduction, right? Of course, she could have gone hiking right, like her purse was left. But she wouldn't have left her found us the problem that I have with it. But when they're cold cases like this, and you haven't been able to get a body. I mean, unless she accidentally forgot it. I mean, I just did that. I just went on a walk yesterday with the dogs and I thought I had my phone. Yeah, my head accidentally left it back on the island. So I mean at home so it that could have happened but it's a long, long shot. But like I said, you get you gotta keep every option open. So she despite her apparent satisfaction with her life, she did have some financial problems. Her parents said that by the summer of 2013, they had noticed that she had a pattern of paying the rent for a series of housemates, who were either disinclined or unable to pay their share. In July of that year, after another one had moved out, she advertised on Craigslist for a new roommate. Okay, so she was 25. She gets a new roommate by the name of Gary Nichols. He's 54 year old father of one of her friends, who was separated from his wife and wanted to live closer to his job. He answered her ad and moved in. Daniel's parents were uneasy about her sharing and living quarters with a man twice her age, which is, you know, that seems, you know, obvious, but he was able to pay his share of the bills and the two had similar interest, Nicholas to like bicycling and follow the similar diet. Interesting, right? You know, age difference. I think my parents would be a little funky about that as well. But again, it goes back that she doesn't fit the profile of a human trafficking victim because she has support she has people that were concerned. You know, I can't look after her. Right, exactly. Okay, so here we go to the date that she that's just background. So that just kind of paints a little picture. And I think it's really, really important to paint these pictures of these people. So August 11. She started her day with a farewell breakfast for her boyfriend who had been accepted into graduate robotics program at the University of Texas at Austin. Another thing that doesn't fit the profile, dealing in being around people that are really really educated. He had wanted her to move there with them. But she, you know, she didn't go. And Daniel's friends said that while she still loved him and wanted to continue the relationship to the point and making plans to visit him later in Austin. She was not ready to move from Pensacola yet. So even though her boyfriend was going away, she was still planning on trying to keep the relationship going and had something to look forward to. It's another thing like she didn't run away from her life. You know, we have to look at that angle. But it's pretty obvious that her life was okay other than some financial problem. So after breakfast breakfast he left. Nichols recalls that she was slightly depressed for the rest of the day. A but that was tempered with enthusiasm for a later visit to Austin, a town her friends believed she could easily adapt to. Okay, so Daniels in the theater in the theater department were scheduled to start preparing sets for production of spam a lot that fall. That night, chin Nichols decided to watch Monty Python in the holy grail. The film on what in which that musical is based for inspiration and relaxation after which the to retire to the bedroom as they both had to work the next morning, at around 5am Nicolas, recall that he heard the door to the house open enclosed several times. He looked outside from his room thinking it might be Daniels but did not see her. And a big deal, but just something to remember. So a 1999 Toyota four runner similar to Tiffany Daniels was spotted when Nichols got up later and left for work around seven. Her car a gray Toyota four Runner was gone. He assumed she too had gone to work. Her parents though, say it was unusual heart unusual for her to get up early in situations where she had to she would usually leave only right before the time she had to be wherever it was. This again tells me that the family is really really vested right? They're looking at the timeline. They're telling investigators that doesn't seem right. That's not our behavior. She's not wanting to get up early. She gets up at the last minute and gets to where she has to go. All of those kinds of things kind of helped me paint a picture of her. Something was unusual, but her boyfriend had just left that day and he moved to Austin. So her sleep may have been disrupted because of that she had the play coming at me about that on her mind. You know those things play? Absolutely. So she did arrive at work on schedule from the beginning of her shift painting sets. She asked her supervisor she could leave a little early that day. And also let him know that she would be taking some time off possibly the whole week but did not explain why other why other than things she had to take care of. He assented and she punched out

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43pm. As she left the theater, no one has reported seeing her since I would want to go back and ask Daniels if he knew about her wanting to take some time off because that was a roommate. You know, obviously her family didn't didn't know about it. But he would think he would write because they lived together and then he she wouldn't be there. Right? Right. So that night Nichols grew concern when she had not returned home by 10. So obviously there wasn't a conversation about her leaving for a few days. She did not return his calls. He called his daughter Noelle who were friends. They were friends who told them not to worry, as Daniels was an adult and might want to hang out with friends closer to her age. He agree with her and went to bed. So all those things make sense, right? Again, she's 2425 she's an adult, right? She doesn't have to tell anybody anything where she is. But again, she's got people that give a shit. Because now people are starting to grip and serve. Her roommate at least called his daughter and started to get the ball rolling a little bit with this doesn't feel right, it doesn't seem right. He then again attempts to call her again, which he had not returned by the next morning but again couldn't reach her. That evening, he returned and found that the electricity to the house had been turned off. He assumed that his housemate had failed to pay her share again and called his daughter and former that she had still not returned home. This time, he suggested that she get in touch with her parents, which she did via private Facebook message. All right, so Noel and Daniel's mother, Cindy soon began working through the extensive list of her friends that they knew of none had seen her all week either. So she's going away, she tells her supervisor she needs to go away. And she's not going with any of her friends. They all assume that if she was anywhere, she was visiting other people she knew all of whom Cindy and Noah had already called. Meanwhile, Daniels had not turned up by the end of the week, they realized it was time to call the police and report her missing the question again. And we can answer it both ways. Why did you wait? You know, why did you wait? And then you could kind of understand why they did wait. Right? Like it's think about your son. I mean, if you didn't talk to your son, and how many days? How quick, how many times do you talk to your son's away at college? Do you think? Well, he's so busy. I mean, sometimes it is only sometimes it's once a week, you know, right? So that's what I'm saying. It's like you don't want to criticize or anything. It's just questions of, you know, why did you wait just to get the answer And that's fine. So mom initially went to the Escambia County Sheriff's Office was seem to her to be dismissive of the case. They took the information she gave them but seemed to believe that her daughter had gone out partying and would turn up soon of her own accord. However, because Daniels had been living in the city of Pensacola, and was last seen there, he referred to the case to the city's police department who mom regarded as showing a little bit more interest in the case. So detective Daniel har net met Cindy mom at Tiffany's house and searched it, that's fantastic. The first thing you should absolutely do on a missing persons case is go to where they live and see if you any foul play anything like that. See if she's packed the bag anything. He found no signs of foul play and Tiffany's tent was still in her room. So the detective realized that she had decided to leave town she was not going camping. Right? So when you go into people's houses and you start searching things, you know, you really got to keep an open mind of what's missing what's not and then talk to mom. It's great that mom was there and to answer those questions. So when the detective learn that Tiffany's boyfriend had left Pensacola the day before he began exploring that angle smart, right, you always go for the boyfriend, always, always always. He had called the Andrews upon his arrival in Austin on the 11th, but not at all 12. He was cooperative and provided fingerprints and DNA samples. And his cell phone records showed he had indeed been in the Austin area all weekend suggesting he had not securely returned to Pensacola. Really good detective work, go for the person, the main person and get them eliminated. So what he's doing is just a process of elimination. Right? So they don't have to go down the path anymore. And he was in he did it really quickly. When they're really cooperative, like absolutely give you DNA. I'll give you fingerprints. And I remember they found fingerprints in the car that were unidentified, but when people are that cooperative, and then you can couple it with the cell phone, that's a pretty solid suggestion that you can go down another road. The detective also consider that perhaps Tiffany had been depressed over his departure. Her sister later told. I think investigation discovered that she had seemed a little less vivacious than usual earlier in 2013, but she had plans for the immediate future. Besides the trip to Austin, she had planned a dance in two weeks time did not seem like she had taken her own life, or started a new one elsewhere. Right. There's nothing that indicates any of that. The investigation though, however, at some point after early departure from work, Daniel's returned to her house briefly. Nicholas was present at the time. So the roommate was present at a time and talking on the phone with his own girlfriend out of state, but does not recall her presence. Mom is skeptical that he could have missed that she was there, both due to an open space between the top of her closet wall and Nicholas statement that he had heard the front door opening and closing in the morning. So he's hearing things right. And then all of a sudden you didn't hear or come home. Um, that is a little bit suspicious. But police, but please believe his account that I consider him to have engaged in any wrongdoing noting that he was the first to raise concern about Tiffany's whereabouts. You can't completely exclude them, but Well, right. Plus, what's his background? I don't think he has anything in his background that would that would throw you know, any suspicion. That's another thing that I would do, right? You get the boyfriend eliminated. You're looking at the roommate, you run the roommates, criminal history, that's going to that's going to paint your story too as well. All right, so the first week and after her disappearance, the case was publicized. The news media reported on it and in our friends and family distributed flyers on the street and posted them. Early the next week. It produced the first evidence related to a disappearance. A jogger, who was also a friend of Tiffany's family, recognized Daniels four runner in a parking lot. West and Pensacola Beach near Fort Pickens at the western end of Santa Rosa Island on August 20, eight days after she had last been seen. She had often gone hiking in the nearby dunes of Gulf Islands National Seashore seashore despite her mother's warnings not to go to the beach alone. Mom says that the car is discovery there suggested her something terrible had happened to her daughter. within it. Were Daniels bicycle cell phone purse with wallets and clothes paintings a jug of water and a jar of peanut butter. So based on that stuff, what does that tell you? To me? Water and peanut butter says she was going to go hiking Exactly. Just gonna go hiking and had a little snack. So right now the picture that I have in my head is a Um, somebody may have been waiting for her. It was a crime of opportunity, right? Didn't even let her. Maybe when she exited her car quickly. They snatched her something to that accord that to me makes the most sense, doesn't it? Well, so I think about if she did leave at five in the morning, maybe maybe she just had one of those nights where she didn't sleep well. And she thought, you know, I'm going to go take a run, why not? I'm gonna go take a run at sunrise at the beach. I mean, that's the normal thing, especially if it fits her personality profile to do something like that. And maybe she did. And then there was just the wrong person there. I know. You always say those. Those stranger abductions are random are exceedingly rare, rare, but I mean, that's, that's, that's one possibility. Right if she left it, to look at it, right. And people who were and people, somebody who might be out at five in the morning if it's not even light out yet? I mean, right. Yeah, the Yeah, I mean, it happens so again, you can't close the door on anything. So after they located the car it was towed for for forensic examination, and investigators found two fingerprints, one on the door handle and the other on the steering. Well, that makes sense to me. If she were to pull up, perpetrator grab that handles, a fight could have kind of entailed, right, we were he was maybe grabbing her and grabbed the steering wheel. Or there's two people you know, two people possibility because of two identified but I mean, you're kind of trying to just paint what happened. A resident of a nearby condominium said the car had definitely not been there until two days earlier. Two other residents said that they'd seen a man getting out of the car earlier that day. Um, so to establish when the car had been driven to the island, the detective examined security cameras footage from the toll booths at the Bob sights bridge, the only road connection between Pensacola and the island. They showed that her vehicle had passed through the holes at 7:51pm. On the evening, Daniels had disappeared. It could not be determined from the footage if she was driving the car which remains in the police impound lot. Its contacts intact in case new information comes to life for which it might be relevant. So it's literally at the at the toe law lot or the police impound lot in it has not been touched, nor will probably be touched again until they get more information. The questions still remain as to whether anyone had seen anything or anyone who might have left the car in the parking lot where it was found. Two large residential complexes certainly islands summer vacations population are adjacent to it. It was possible someone there might have seen something. Friends and family again circulated flyers in the area and Canvas residents but found no additional leads. At the police garage. Investigators found sand this is an interesting method. The investigators found Santa on the bicycle tires, but none on the cars for bores, which is oh my god, there's just you can't touch sand in a docket in your car. You can't like I just went. I was just like Michigan a couple of weeks ago and we went on you know we were in the sand. But we were there for a short time we're brushing off our shoes our skin before we got in and I still have sand in my car. This suggests to the detective the possibility that if Daniels had gone for a bike ride on the beach that evening, she might have decided to go for a swim afterwards. A friend of hers noted that there was a meteor shower that was happening at that time, which he said was the sort of thing that she might have decided to watch on the beach. If she had it was possible that she had drowned. However, no bodies are found on the shore. And the detective says it's usually come for them to wash up after drowning, which it is. How long does it take usually? You know, it's hard to tell because it just depends on the temperature depends on the body weight of the body, the current how the water is running, and there's so much that takes place. There's so many sharps barely the cola would it does that factor? Well that's true. I mean, well, yeah. Because remember when we were there, so it caused. So yeah, yeah. Okay, so it's also possible that she had met with an accident or foul play somewhere on land. However there was there was then no way to be sure. Santa Rosa Island is 50 miles long and the police did not have enough manpower to search it even its beaches must less the dunes thickly vegetated in some areas. The weekend after the car was foul, volunteer organization. In the wake of the poly class case, in coordination with local police in the US National Park Service, which has jurisdiction over the National Seashore, searched much of the island with humans and searched dogs, a few fragments of clothing pieces of jewelry are found but they do not belong to her. So really kudos to the detector that's really kind of, you know, doing everything it sounds like you possibly can. And then we get to lose Louisiana and there's a possible sighting. With all the searches and investigation procedures and Pensacola exhausted no further physical evidence was likely. Daniel's friends and family set up a Facebook page to further the search and found themselves busy sorting through many tips and initially foreign in one from a convenience store clerk who claimed to have seen her several days after she had last been seen, seemed credible first, as he recalled her foot tattoos however, the store security camera footage for that day failed to cooperate the account several months after her disappearance in January of 2014. The Facebook page yielded what her parents considered a more credible report of a later citing a woman who worked as a waitress at a restaurant in Louisiana outside New Orleans reported that shortly after the disappearance, she had seen a woman matching Daniels description come in with two other women, one roughly the same age and the and the other older, possibly Latina and more nicely dressed. The younger woman behave strangely, both wearing long sleeve shirts despite the warm weather with cuffs pulled over their pants and never looking a waitress in the eye. Mostly, they seem to let the older woman do the talking for the crew. So there are some signs of human trafficking victims when there's not a lot of eye contact made. And there's usually a person that's with the victim or victims that does the majority of the talking. When the waitress told one of the younger women she looked like that woman who had been reported missing in Florida, the group got up and left. Unfortunately, the restaurant security cameras had been taped over since the date of the encounter. And it was impossible to find any documentary confirmation of the waitresses story. That's pretty good. That's pretty good evidence, I think, even though they don't have camera footage of it. So parents strongly believe. Does it seem like Tiffany's personality if she was out in public that she just avert her eyes? It doesn't Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't match your personality. That's the thing about her. She's a strong personality. And to me, it seems like because I read about the case and it she just doesn't seem like the type of person if she had it. If she had an opportunity to escape and she was out in public with her captor. She escape. Yeah, but here we're talking about several months like brainwashing brainwashing going on. There's a lot of different that Yeah, absolutely. So her parents strongly believe this was her for two reasons first that was putting in her sleeves over her hands was something she frequently did when she was cold. Second, the waitress recall that the woman's who resembled Tiffany had when looking over the soups on the menu, asked whether one of them used a fish or chicken broth. Cindy recall a similar incident when she had been eating out with her daughter and the restaurant had substituted chicken broth. And Tiffany soup since it had run out of fish broth a difference Tiffany could taste as she was pescatarian and normally avoided any chicken based foods. I don't know how common that is that people ask about different types of bras. Well, you live in Indiana, so it doesn't happen as often. I live in California, and it is a normal course of conversation. Okay, because when knowing that I mean when I when I kind of read that I was like holy shit, that's something that's not a coincidence. And maybe it didn't No, no, that's very common for someone who is you know, pescatarian or vegetarian or vegan. That's why people it's so it's so good for people to you know, join in the conversation right to kind of teach people live in in badass Indiana, about chickens back. This is just I think you guys aren't as nutrition conscious as a culture, not individually but as a culture as maybe we are in California and the coastal. The coastal cities like Pensacola. Everybody's beautiful, right? All right, so the family began to fear that Tiffany and up and found because she had somehow left Pensacola during that week between the last side in the beginning of search and not voluntarily, they began researching human trafficking as a possible explanation. They saw possible similarities between Daniels unsolved case and that of another woman who had recently been drugged and abducted from nearby Panama City and taken to New Orleans by two men who told her she was to work as a prostitute. Again, a little bit of history on traffickers they do prefer to target women in their late teens. According to experts, they will occasionally attempt to abduct women closer to Daniel's age and her parents believe she would have been trusting enough to fall for whatever pretext they use to pro third daughter, which is interesting is is worldly as she was and as outgoing as she was their family believed that she may have been able to be persuaded. I don't think that she went willingly based on the to identify unidentified finger prints in her car. And the fact that she left her cell phone and personal belongings behind that tells me like abduction. But it's kind of interesting that family thinks that she may have been able to be, you know, fooled by whoever's trying to trafficker i That doesn't that doesn't resonate at all with me is from what I read about her personality. I just cannot imagine. She had too much going on in her own life. She was going to Austin, she was sincere boyfriend, she loved her job. She had close family connections. She belonged to a dance community, to art community. She was active hiking, she loves nature, it's just there's no way that a woman, a young woman like that, that has that much going on and is that bright, would fall prey to some buddy some traffic or seduction and promises for money and I don't believe it. And I believe it. All the detective doesn't believe he doesn't. He doesn't love the trafficking theory. But he says he can't rule out anything at this point. So the second anniversary of her disappearance in 2015 led to two developments in the case. Investigation Discovery decided to revive the series disappeared in which profiled missing persons cases and Daniels case was one of those chosen a crew went to Pensacola film locations associated with the case and reenactments and interviewed her net, Tiffany's parents sister and some of her friends who helped with the investigation. For the episode air the first new evidence in the case since the original investigation surface and December 2015. The Daniels family in the police disclosed that in the wake of coverage of the case a secondary University four months earlier citizen had come forward and told the police that on the day Daniels car was discovered they had seen a man in his 30s Wearing red shorts and no shirt opening up the cars tailgate that report consistent with the two witnesses who said they saw a man leave the car after it was parked there. The witness remember this because a car had been parked unusually facing oncoming traffic and an errand reserved for wildlife. She could have been killed right there if she could have been abducted and killed right there. And I mean, I don't know if this is I mean, man, if you're listening to this, and you have some ideas, send it send it our way, because I would love to hear what people think of it because oh, man, that's just to stop. I feel like that. You know, the police department did a good job. The detective did a good job and the family still kind of working, working it but man this is this is what we call a stumper kind of is right? Not a lot of all her background is showing, you know, positive life doesn't put herself into scary situations. So that is the story of Tiffany. Tiffany Daniels man if you have any information on this, again, you guys can always contact us or call 85043696308504369630 We appreciate you listening. We appreciate you Sharon. Let us know if you have any information that can help us whereas Tiffany Daniels and we will see you again on next time on murder with mannina. If you have a cold case you'd like Chris to review submitted through our website at murder with manina.com and follow us on Instagram and Facebook at murder with mannina and Twitter at murder W mannina. We'll be back next week with a brand new episode of murder with mannina.