(Transcribed by TurboScribe.ai. Go Unlimited to remove this message.) Hey movie lovers, this is Leo, Mike, and Kevin from Films and Fermentation. If you love comedy, movies, and a good drink in hand, then you need to check out the PodNation Media Network. It's home to a variety of amazing podcasts covering everything from pulp culture to history, and of course movies like ours. And the best part, PodNation Media Network is featured on Roku, so you can stream your favorite podcasts anytime. Alongside Films and Fermentation, you'll find other fantastic shows like the KJ&A Podcast, The Undiscovered Entrepreneur, Real Sharks, and so many more. So grab a drink, press play, and join the fun with PodNation Media Network. Because everything's better with a little comedy, movies, and booze. Learn more by going to linktree.com slash PodNation Pods. I really love our new theme song. I enjoy it. Hey everybody, welcome to Films and Fermentation episode 184. Tonight we decided, since there's so many awesome movies that are celebrating their 40th anniversary this year, that we just do one whole episode on the year 1985. So it's this year in film history for 1985. Again, we are Films and Fermentation, a movie and alcohol podcast. Number one pop culture podcast on GoodPods, and according to the email I got from GoodPods today, the number one all-time beer podcast on GoodPods. I'm Leo. I'm Kevin. I'm Mike. We're three friends who like to talk shit about movies while getting shit-faced. In this episode, we mix movie nostalgia with a splash of liquid inspiration. Today, we're hopping into our DeLorean and setting the flux capacitor for 1985, a year when Rocky ended the Cold War, a bunch of misfits searched for pirate treasure, and a time-traveling teenager almost erased himself from existence. It was a year of epic blockbusters, questionable fashion choices, and soundtracks that still slap. So grab a wine cooler, crank up the power of love, and join us as we relive the cinematic magic of 85. Just remember, where we're going, we don't need roads. Oh shit, I gotta go change my mind about the wine cooler. You guys are going to like the drink I have for the night, I think. Don't forget to drop us an email at filmsandfermentation at gmail.com or visit linktree.com slash filmsandfermentation to find all of our social media and podcast links. We're on everything out there. We're on Reddit, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, you name it. Yeah, and we're everywhere, and we'd like to hear from you, because I would like to, sometime in the near future, do a little mailbag episode, so please send us your comments, questions, suggestions, whatever it might be. You could also become part of the Films and Fermentation family by following us at the PodNation Media Network on Roku. 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Jeremy, welcome to the network and check out his podcasts. What are we drinking tonight, gentlemen? I'll go first. Go for it. Gentlemen, you had tasted this a couple weeks ago. This is from Eclipse Brewing in Merchantville, New Jersey. This is their S'mores Stout. It is 8% alcohol by volume. And it is a stout beer with fun flavors of chocolate, marshmallow fluff, and graham. I did like that beer. It was good. It was really good. And I just need a little way of getting the cap or the tab up. Here we go. Oh, yeah. Mike, what are you drinking? I went to the refrigerator and, you know, I'm still cleaning out. So I am drinking Nugget Elf Ale from Frogs. I like how Mike gets all Southern when he says the name of that beer. It's Nugget Elf. Nugget. Nugget Elf. I have some of those in my fridge, too. I'm sorry, Kev, did you have a second beer for tonight? You usually do. I would, except that this is a Crowler. So it's 32 ounces. So you basically have to drink a second one that's 64 ounces. And I'm no mathematician. But that's that's a gallon, 64 ounces. Yeah, it might be. I don't know. I'm not I'm not a mathologist either. So I think that might be 128 ounces, at least a half gallon. I am drinking a cocktail tonight inspired by 1985 and in particular, one movie. I will tell you the drink and see if you can guess the movie that I based my drink on. It is a mixed drink of vodka, cherry liqueur. Vermouth, bitters and some Sprite for color. Mixed it all together, it gives it this very, very crimson look to it. The drink is called Communism is Just a Red Herring. And it's actually pretty good. I, too, have to work tomorrow like the rest of you. And if I drink a lot of this, I'll probably have a problem. But I don't care. This guy needs hair. This guy's wearing his brand new Super Bowl T-shirt. I also got my representing the podcast. Got my brand new hat. Well, my stuff finally came in that I ordered. My hat came into, you know, all my stuff. Anyway, moving on. This week in film history with Mike. It was a slow week. Yeah, I could see that. So 1952, African Queen film directed by John Hudson, star Humphrey Bogart and Katharine Hepburn is released in the US. I think it's the only film that I think it's the film that Humphrey Bogart won an Oscar for best actor. Probably should have probably should have got a Picasso Blanca. But I think it was like one of those ones where they considered it kind of like a career Oscar. Not the Maltese Falcon. Not the Maltese Falcon either. I know. Right. John Huston, African Queen. I think it won for best picture, too. All right. Let's hear let's hear let's hear Mike do some Russian names. Go for it. A 1988 adaptation of Fedora by Adore. That's where we get that's where we get the Fedora hat from. Yeah. Fyodor. Fyodor. Like Theodore with an F. Like Alvin Simon and Theodore. And Theodore. Oh, that's a fisky. It's a lot of there. It's clear sailing from here on in, Mike. Go ahead. Yeah, you got this. Others are Mazda. OK. Yul Brynner and featuring William Shatner's film debut premieres at Radio City Music Hall, New York City. It's just a lot of fucking bells. It's a lot of fucking bells. It is Fyodor Dostoevsky. And it's called The Brothers Karamazov, which is the novel that he wrote that this film was based on. William Shatner's going to be I meant to look this up earlier and I and I didn't get a chance to do it. I wanted to see it has to be a small role in this movie. But I do know I know Shatner was in another thing in 1958 as well. Because I've shown it in class when I taught it. There was a film version of Oedipus the King. There was a stage production filmed and released. And William Shatner is in that as a member of the chorus. But you wouldn't know it because he's wearing a mask the entire time. Because, of course, all wear masks. Is it a Michael Myers mask? No. The irony, the irony of it all. William Shatner plays Alexei Karamazov. Oh, he's one of the Brothers Karamazov. I would like to I would like to check this out to see if he actually tries to do a Russian accent because I know Yul Brynner has one. But William Shatner can handle it. I'll look that up later. We travel to strange new worlds. No, wrong. Speak up like a new civilization. It's hard to do a Russian accent in William Shatner's. Oh man, gone before. And the next one you got there, Mike. Nineteen sixty eight children's educational TV program. Mr. Rogers Neighborhood debuts on NET. Now PBS. I love that in Pittsburgh. I don't mind saying it. I love that man. I love that man. Great. One of my heroes. Yeah, he was a great man. I still like like I look up his quotes once in a while because they always make you feel good when you read them. I'll tell you what, man, the I haven't seen the the movie with Tom Hanks playing him yet, but I saw the documentary about the show that it's called Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood. The name of the documentary. I saw it in the theater. I've never seen a documentary in the theater before, but I went to the Ritz in Center City. Yeah, and it was a packed house in the middle of the day for a documentary. Yeah, there are people with the what's the Tiger's name? Oh, Daniel Tiger. Yeah, they had the puppets. They had ears. A lot of I was I was it was insane. Yeah, it was crazy how packed it was. But at the end of that movie, man, everybody in that theater, including me, were fucking sobbing. Yeah, it was such an emotional documentary. It was so good. One clip of him that comes up often when you're scrolling through things is his testimony in front of a committee for Congress. I think that's like justifying the need for public television and to listen to him speak and respond to the senator asking the question like I think the senator was not really trying for a gotcha, but it was like a legit question. He just seemed to for him to catch him off guard. You can actually see the the senator's mind like changed like he changed his mind and you can see it in his face that he was changing his mind. Yeah, great. That's how great a speaker Fred Rogers was. Yeah, that's it. I love Mr. Rogers neighborhood. Uh, this week in film history, that's this week in Russian dialect with Mike. Uh, yeah, it was a short one this week. Not a lot going on. I like going on. Yeah, that's OK. You have any must try beer? Crap. I have a must try beer. This is the Energo Light Low Cal IPA from Sky Brewing Company in Durango, Colorado. At only 99 calories and 4 grams of carbs per 12 ounce serving, this 4.2 ABV session strength IPA still manages to pack a big pine mango and orange hop aroma. It pours hazy orange with coarse white foam and and sticky lace. Sweetness and heft are minimal on the palate, but bitterness is fairly restrained as well, giving an overall impression of dryness. There's lots of flavor on the palate, though, with ripe pineapple coming through. If you love hops, but can't commit to a full strength IPA, this is your your your triple. Not me. I was going to say, but does it have any of this? In time with this now and the chickens in the Raptors got the funk all figured out. That is films and fermentations new single Barnyard Funk coming to it, coming to a Tower Records near you very soon. I only shop at the wall. Yeah, I'm more of a borders kind of guy. Anyway, but he got it. Yeah. Any beer in this thing? Sure, I can take something up. Let me just do a little. OK, here we go. Tom Holland was rejected trying to buy his own non-alcoholic beer brand in Target. What? You sit on a throne of lies. It's typically your time to charm. You don't have to make it up, man. I'm just fucking. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no. You put me on the spot. I thought, you know. No, I just I just. I really. No, no, no, no. I got beer. No, here it is. You said you had no beer news. I played the song only because I love the song. I'm going to tell you about Tom Holland anyway, so buckle up, buttercup. It's typically third time's a charm, but not necessarily for Tom Holland. The actor recently took to his social media to document the hunt for his own non-alcoholic beer brand Barrow, Barrow, B-A-R-R-O, to Target. However, he ended up getting rejected while trying to buy it due to his United Kingdom ID. So, I haven't been in the United States for a while, Holland said in the video that has since expired on his Instagram story, but was re-uploaded on social media by fans, and I'm going to go visit some Barrow on the shelves out in the wild after going to two different Targets with no luck finding Barrow on the shelves. The Spider-Man actor eventually found his non-alcoholic beer brand at the third store. Okay, I found it, and I just walked straight past it by accident, a delighted Holland told the camera. However, he revealed in the next clip that actually buying the non-alcoholic beer would be another challenge. Okay, so success. I found some. The crowded room actor said while he was walking through the parking lot, I bought it. They wouldn't accept my ID because it's English, and I couldn't prove my age. So a really lovely employee, I guess, had scanned their ID. So he's buying beer illegally. It's non-alcoholic beer. I just, I'm sitting here thinking the same thing, like, what do you need ID for if it's non-alcoholic? He responded, kind of ironic that I wasn't allowed to buy my own product, but yeah, feeling good. This is exciting. He added, Holland, who has been open about his sobriety, previously said that he was inspired to create Barrow after he quit drinking, and said on the On Purpose with Jay Shetty podcast in 2023 that he initially participated in dry January 2022, but found himself consistently thinking about having a drink, so he decided to refrain from drinking for six months. Once he learned that he could maintain his sobriety, he recalled feeling the happiest he's ever been in his life. I could sleep better. I could handle my problems better, Holland said at the time. Things that would go wrong on set that would normally set me off, I would just take in my stride. I had such better mental clarity. I felt healthier. I felt fitter, and I just sort of said to myself, why? Why am I enslaved to this drink? Why am I so obsessed by the idea of having this drink? Boy, that's a crummy article. That's how it ends. Yay! I'm still stuck on the ID for non-alcoholic. I have clarity and happiness. Why? Yeah, I didn't have to give up beer and alcohol in order to get clarity and happiness. I just started thinking Zoloft that solved a lot of problems. All right, that was beer news is good news. So we're moving on to our main segment tonight, which is this year in film history for 1985. So for this, we're looking at films that were released within the year. It's all in-year releases, so between January of 85 and December of 85. It's not calendar gross, which would include some films from 1984, which we already did a this year in film history, 1984 episode way back when you go back into the early annals of our catalog to find that episode. So this is just films that were released within the calendar year, within the year 1985. We're going to take a look at these films, talk about them a little bit. Do they still hold up today? What makes them so iconic? Things like that. And then as we get a little deeper into the list, we're going to we're going to just kind of stop and look at like a few films here and there. We're just going to highlight them because there are a lot of a lot of songs, a lot of movies on this list. And I'm sure we want to you know, we want to spend too much time on this tonight. But to introduce this segment, I have a special musical interlude here. The first film on the list for 1985, if anybody knows anything about this year, you know that this movie had to be number one. It's Back to the Future, starring Michael J. Fox and, you know, I think it's a classic. But the film also features Crispin Glover playing Marty McFly's father in the film, both the young version and the older version. Crispin Glover is a very interesting gentleman. And after the success of this film, he decided to release his own album of experimental surreal music. So I'd like to play a small clip for you of one of the singles from that album. It's Crispin Glover's Clowny Clown Clown. And if anybody would like to listen to the rest of the album, it is available for free on the Internet Archive and includes his cover of These Boots Are Made for Walking, in which he cries the entire song. But in the meantime, here's Clowny Clown Clown from Crispin Glover. I was walking on the ground. I didn't make a sound. Then I turned around and I saw a clown had a frown, stood on a mound, started barking like a hound. When I came to it, I found he showed me something that was brown, so he became great friends. And late in life, he got sick, gave him some soup, but he got worse and asked for his purse. He got it, but it was empty, so he cried a plenty. I wondered what to do. Yeah, that really makes you appreciate the penis, the vagina song, doesn't it? It makes me appreciate Will Shatner music. Rocket. No, no, no. It makes me really appreciate Bilbo. Bilbo Baggins. Well, that's an awesome song. This was Clowny Clown Clown from Crispin Glover. Well, I'm telling you, you want to hear something special. You got to hear his cover of These Boots Are Made for Walking. So anyway, back to the list. Number one, grossing two hundred and twelve million dollars that year, opening at eleven million and being as number one for the entire year after a July 3rd opening is Back to the Future. It's power. Anybody got anything I want to say about this? Johnny, be good, be good. Yeah, I don't know if I saw this one. You saw this one. Yeah, right. Well, they go back to the Wild West in a train. Yeah, that's the third one. Stars Michael J. Fox, Christopher Lloyd, Lea Thompson, Lea Thompson, Lea Thompson, Crispin Glover, Tom Wilson, he invents this time machine and he goes back to stop the Kennedy assassination. Yeah, that would have been really good. Well, now I don't want to tell you, my bitch, he goes back and tries to fuck his mom. Yeah, I don't think he tries. I think she tries to fuck him. Yeah, yeah. That's the John Mulaney skit, which ends with like the studio going, tell us more. So this movie, as I said, it grossed at the by the end of its run, which was in nineteen eighty six. It had grossed three hundred eighty five million plus on a nineteen million dollar budget. That is it's amazing. It was that low of a budget considering, you know, how iconic the film is and the effects and everything they had in it. But then when you think about it, there really wasn't a lot in that film, special effects wise, other than the DeLorean. So yeah, that's about it. That was that was about it. There really wasn't much else. I do love I think my favorite joke in the film is when he goes to visit Doc Brown in nineteen fifty five and he looks exactly the same as he does in nineteen eighty five. Oh, he hasn't changed at all yet. Now, here's something scary in case you haven't thought of this yet. The movie was made in nineteen eighty five, takes place in nineteen eighty five. He travels 30 years into the past, the nineteen fifty five. But the movie came out 40 years ago. So the movie is officially older than the time travel trip he makes in the film. So do you think this film still holds up today? Yeah, oh, absolutely. Yeah, I see this consistently on like list of like movies that they better never make a remake of. Like, never do never reboot this film. Well, if you did, then the person would have. Yeah, they already want to reboot. We've been a ghostbusters. I know they did it with Robocop, Ghostbusters, Total Recall. They've done it with all of them. But I mean, they made this one into a Broadway musical. Still waiting for the Police Academy reboot. Yeah, we need more police academy. We do. As long as it has the good and Michael Winslow. Making noises, I'm good. Yeah, I think this film definitely still holds. I actually wasn't. I think I watched it within the last year, maybe. Yeah, it's still a great movie still makes me laugh. I still find the Johnny B. Good segment kind of ridiculous. But other than that, it's a little bit. Yeah. Next on the list, number two, I can't believe this is number two. Rambo First Blood, part two. I still laugh watching this one, too. I'm like, I prefer part one. Well, here's the it's here's what's so weird about it is like. Rambo First Blood, part two, like that, first off, that title is just so unwieldy. And it's so different from the first film. Yeah, it's like the first film was a guy like you said, is a total departure from the first film. You know, the first film was acting. It was an actual like a movie about a Vietnam war vet with PTSD. So the first one didn't end with to be continued. No. And, you know, like continue the story from the first one. No, no. Second one is just a pure action film. Yeah. And then back, you know, send them back to Vietnam. Yeah, it's I mean, I still like.