This Year in Film History (1986) with Cthulhu Jack

Special Guest -- Cthulhu Jack

Dust off your leg warmers and prepare for maximum montage energy, because this week we’re diving headfirst into This Year in Film History: 1986 🎬🔥  It’s the year where fighter jets flew dangerously close to volleyball games, aliens got cozy in suburbia, and one man named Crocodile proved that tourism marketing could, in fact, involve knives.  We’re breaking down the biggest movies, unforgettable moments, and the kind of cinematic chaos that only the mid-80s could deliver without a hint of irony.  Expect blockbuster nostalgia, behind-the-scenes trivia, and at least one debate that escalates way beyond what 1986 probably deserves.  So grab your VHS tapes, adjust your aviators, and join us as we rewind to a year when Hollywood hit the gas and never once looked in the rearview mirror.

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SPEAKER_04 0:00

Greetings, humans. I come in peace to end with podcasts. Welcome to Pod Nation Media, home of the KGNA podcast, the Undiscovered Entrepreneur, Monster Island Film Vault, Catholic Jack President, and Films Impermentation. All excrement exclusively on the food.

SPEAKER_07 1:24

I did put out a little mini pod on uh remembering Chuck Norris and on my reaction to the Oscar winners for this year uh last week, so you can check that out. But we're back with our first full episode in the last couple weeks tonight. Tonight, uh, we decided since there's so many movies turning 40 this year, we can't do an episode for all of them. So tonight we're just gonna do all of them in one episode. So we're doing this year in film history for 1986, and because it's the 80s, because it's a great year for film, we decided we had only one person we should ask to be on the show with us tonight. Our good friend, our uh I guess you could call him uh co-host. Uh yeah, like like fourth co-host for for better or worse, uh Cthulhu Jack back with us tonight. I like his background there. I'm Hudson, he's Hicks with uh little Bill Paxton in the center there.

SPEAKER_06 2:19

Oh, thank you guys. Thank you guys. Happy to be back. Yeah, no, I I figured, you know what, 1986 was a great year for movies, and you know, one of the best uh sequels and uh monster sci-fi movies of all time. And why not represent with the best, you know?

SPEAKER_07 2:34

There's some some bangers in 1986, and there's actually a couple that we already did some anniversary episodes for uh this year, but we'll we'll get to that when we get to it. So uh in the meantime, we are Films of Fermentation, a movie and alcohol podcast. We are not only the number one beer podcast on Good Pods, we are now the number one alcohol podcast on Good Pods. Uh nothing about movies, but we are alcohol and beer at least. Uh I'm Leo.

SPEAKER_05 3:02

I'm Kevin, I'm Mike.

SPEAKER_06 3:04

And I'm Cthulhu Jack.

SPEAKER_07 3:06

That's Cthulhu Jack. We're four friends like talk shit about movies while getting shit-faced. Dust off your leg warmers and prepare for maximum montage energy because this week we're diving headfirst into this year in film history for 1986. It's the year where fighter jets flew dangerously close to volleyball games, aliens got cozy in suburbia, and one man named Crocodile proved that tourism marketing could in fact involve knives. We're breaking down the biggest movies, unforgettable moments, and the kind of cinematic chaos that only the mid-80s could deliver without a hint of irony. Expect blockbuster nostalgia, behind-the-scenes trivia, and at least one debate that escalates way beyond what 1986 probably deserves. Grab your VHS tapes, adjust your aviators, and join us as we rewind to a year when Hollywood hit the gas and never looked once in the rear view mirror. As I'm recording this, and I said, uh, let's see if we can get ourselves back into shape here. I realized that I had all the sound wrong on my soundboard just now. And it probably explains why my voice was echoing in my head as I was reading the intro.

SPEAKER_05 4:13

Does that mean we have to re-record?

SPEAKER_07 4:15

No, we're good. Oh my god. I'll master it afterwards. I just realized now that I hadn't I didn't adjust at the sound on my microphone. Uh, don't forget to drop us an email at filmsofermentation at gmail.com or visit linktree.com/slash films and fermentation to find all of our social media and podcast links. I know it's been a while since I've done this. I'm like running out of breath already. Become part of the films and fermentation family. You can watch us on the Pod Nation Media Network on Roku, on YouTube, and on Rumble. We are an independent podcast, which means we are listeners supported. So please consider joining our Patreon for as little as a dollar a month to receive members-only content. It's either a dollar a month or it's game over, man. Game over. Just go to patreon.com slash films and fermentation. You can also buy our shit at teespring.com or text us at 904-867-4466. Yeah, shit like what Mike's wearing. Uh what are we drinking tonight, my friends?

SPEAKER_03 5:11

I'll go first. I'll go first. I have finally opened my um lime barrels. I'm giving you the sample A tonight. It is Northern Bourbon, straight bourbon whiskey, finished with toasted cherry wood staves. It's a Plymouth distillery. So cheers, boys. Cheers.

SPEAKER_06 5:34

Cheers. Cheers.

SPEAKER_07 5:36

Kevin, you have a uh uh blue beer and a yellow beer?

SPEAKER_05 5:41

Yes, as my son calls them blue and yellow, and then he tried to you know get me to drink them. Uh I have my Sam spring seasonal. And um two of the ones, I think I I had two of the other ones maybe the last time we were on. I can't recall. It's been so long. Um, it has been a long time, but uh anyway, what I'm drinking, I have their breakaway blonde, which is refreshing and smooth. Their description says it's easily uh easily appealing for the whole crowd with a gentle biscuity aroma and light body. This blonde ale is balanced and clean with a subtle hot hop touch and quick refreshing finish that'll help it break away from other beers this season. Um, I think this is one of their regulars. I know they included some limited um limited editions or limited time ones. This is 4.7% alcohol by volume, and then the old reliable cold snap from Sam Adams, which is unfiltered and lively. This crisp white ale gets a kick from a bright blend of smooth spring spices. This is always a go-to for me, and this is 5.3% alcohol by volume. I also had a uh lunch with uh friends of mine from work over at um yard house, uh, not far from me, and cracked open that menu and saw the pages upon pages upon pages of beer. Uh, I had one from Axe and oh, yard house is great. I had one from Ax and Arrow today, which was called um um fluffy coconuts, uh tiny coconuts, something like that. It was delicious, though. It was so good.

SPEAKER_07 7:26

Um, we got a we got a yard out, we got a yard house up in Abington where my school is, so that's we hit that for a happy hour once in a while.

SPEAKER_05 7:32

Yeah, it's it's a good place, man.

SPEAKER_07 7:35

So cheers, are you uh imbibing tonight?

unknown 7:37

Cheers.

SPEAKER_06 7:38

Yeah, I'm going old timey. I'm doing a gin uh gin ricky, the old gin ricky, a little lime, a little yeah, a little club soda. You know, I prefer to call mine Jin Richard. You like your formal drink?

SPEAKER_07 7:55

I do he drinks with just pinky up, pinky up, yeah. So I since we uh are now a the number one alcohol podcast on good pods, I decided to go mix drink tonight. And the thing I have tonight is it's kind of more of a fall drink than a spring drink, but when I saw it, I was like, that sounds really good, so I'm gonna try it anyway. So it's uh apple pie moonshine. So for that I use my old smoky apple pie moonshine mixed with a hard cider. So for that I use the uh red apple bombshell cider from Warhorse Brewery. That's basically all it is. It's moonshine and hard cider mixed together, but it's really good. It's called the Haywire Hayride.

SPEAKER_06 8:44

That's good.

SPEAKER_07 8:45

Let me guess, you're off tomorrow, actually. Uh I'm off till next Tuesday. I don't have to be sober for four days.

SPEAKER_06 8:51

Just roll me over, I'll be fine.

SPEAKER_07 8:53

Yeah. I don't have to drive. All right, let's uh we haven't played a song in a while. Let's play a song.

SPEAKER_09 9:18

This week in film history with Mike.

SPEAKER_03 9:26

Nineteen thirty, the blue angel starring Marlene Dietrich in her breakthrough role premieres in Germany.

SPEAKER_07 9:35

Not gonna say I know anything about this. It's you know a little old for you. A little old.

SPEAKER_03 9:40

This one's almost as old, but I'm sure you know stuff about it. 1932, Tarzan the Ape Man releasing released starring Olympic swimmer Johnny Wisemiller in his first of 12 Tarzan films.

SPEAKER_07 9:56

Jack, are you familiar with Blue Angel at all?

SPEAKER_06 10:00

Uh I am a little bit. Um, I actually have only recently been following a lot of uh Marlena Dietrich's uh work, but um that came in as uh one of the one of her better ones. So I'm looking forward to checking it out.

SPEAKER_07 10:12

And then uh Tarzan Eat Man, the original with Johnny Weismueller.

unknown 10:16

Of course.

SPEAKER_06 10:17

Oh, I watched him as a kid, man. He's awesome. I love it. He's probably my favorite.

SPEAKER_07 10:22

You're in more more Johnny Weissemuler than uh than uh Christopher Lambert.

SPEAKER_06 10:28

Ooh, going down the Greystoke road. That could be that could be a whole episode in itself. Uh yeah, I mean that that's uh that's uh god that's that's a movie that could have been just great, but uh it's pretty mixed.

SPEAKER_07 10:43

It's it's pretty mid, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:46

Uh next one, Mike. 1939, Hound of the Baskervilles, the first of 14 films starring Basil Rathburn as Sherlock Holmes and Nigel Bruce as Dr. Watson is released. Gotta remember all this stuff from Saturday.

SPEAKER_06 11:00

This is that's a classic.

SPEAKER_03 11:02

Yeah, it's a classic.

SPEAKER_07 11:03

I'm familiar with this, even though it's a film from 1939. I know this one.

SPEAKER_05 11:09

This one had dogs in it, right?

SPEAKER_07 11:11

Yeah. Yes. Puppies. Well, the secret, this the the the thing you find out at the end is they were cats dressed as dogs.

SPEAKER_03 11:21

Wait a minute. I thought this wasn't this with Basil from Bat. Oh no, that was the great mouse effect. Those bitches set me up.

SPEAKER_07 11:33

Okay. Oh, I got some I got some new drops for tonight. I hope I get a chance to use them.

SPEAKER_03 11:38

1987, Rogers and Hamelstein's live television musical Cinderella, starring Julie Andrews and Kay Ballard, and Alice Ghostly premieres on CBS TV.

SPEAKER_07 11:52

Not gonna lie, I didn't know there was a live television musical, Cinderella.

SPEAKER_05 11:59

You know what it needed? It needed Christopher Walken.

SPEAKER_07 12:02

Yeah, well that was that was uh that was Peter Pan.

SPEAKER_05 12:07

Anything could be better with Christopher Walken.

SPEAKER_07 12:10

I mean, I've seen the 19 the 1960s live Peter Pan with Mary Martin. And I've seen the live Peter Penn with Christopher Walken. How do the two compare? How did here let me give you uh let me give you an idea? This is this is the Mary Martin one. Uh, you know, uh uh it was song and dance, and everybody knew their lines, and then the Christopher Walken one was don't rush me because he couldn't remember his lines.

SPEAKER_03 12:45

All right, 1968 science fiction film Planet of the Apes starring Charlton Heston and Rodney opens nationally in the United States. They blew it up.

SPEAKER_07 12:58

Fucking says fucking apes, but yeah.

SPEAKER_05 13:04

Damn dirty apes, not quite as good as the Tim Burton one.

SPEAKER_06 13:08

Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh boys.

SPEAKER_07 13:12

There's no twist quite like Mark Wahlberg is in Washington, DC.

SPEAKER_06 13:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 13:18

Hey ape, how's your mother?

SPEAKER_06 13:19

How's your mother? That's a good one.

SPEAKER_05 13:27

Get your dirty eight balls off me.

SPEAKER_07 13:31

My favorite part of the Tim Burton Planet of the Apes is that they got they got uh Charlton Heston to play an ape just so they can make me say the line, damn dirty humans.

SPEAKER_06 13:43

I think it was his last time. I only saw that movie once in the I saw that movie once in the theater, and that was enough. I should check it out again. That would be a good fun one to see.

SPEAKER_07 13:51

I saw it once in the theater as well and have never had the gumption to watch it again. I can't do it. Follow-ups haven't been bad. The follow-up films, uh the Matt Reeves ones. The Matt Reeves ones have been pretty good.

SPEAKER_06 14:03

Well, the problem is that Burton one soured me so bad I don't care about seeing any of the other ones.

SPEAKER_03 14:07

That's what I did with with that too. I I haven't watched many of the other actually any of the other ones because Tim Burton screwed it up.

SPEAKER_05 14:14

Yeah, but Andy Circus has to make up for that Tim Burton one. You have to, I mean, I will watch anything with Andy Circus in it. Oh, sure, sure. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 14:24

No one can see it. His performance alone in the later films is is worth the watch. Yeah. Uh next one, sir.

SPEAKER_03 14:34

Also, 1968, 2001 is Space Odyssey, directed by Stanley Kubick and starring Kara Dooley.

SPEAKER_07 14:54

I can't tell you on that one. I love I like 2001. I love it's it's one of Kubrick's better films. It's not my favorite Kubrick film, but it's a good movie.

SPEAKER_06 15:04

I'm sorry, Dave. We cannot do that, Dave.

SPEAKER_07 15:07

It's it's the how 9000 became like a uh uh you know just something soap culture.

SPEAKER_03 15:14

It's what they've been warning us about AI started then.

SPEAKER_06 15:19

Oh, you know what? You know what I found out the other day is you know who actually owns the eye or the howl eye that looks at Dave the whole time is Peter Jackson.

SPEAKER_07 15:27

Doesn't shock me. That doesn't shock me at all. I was gonna say it would either be Peter Jackson or Guillermo del Toro. There's the two I would think would own something like that.

SPEAKER_06 15:36

Probably tug of war. It's a tug of war between the two, but yeah, no, Peter Jackson won.

SPEAKER_07 15:40

They have shared custody, yeah. They lend it to each other. My weekend with hell.

SPEAKER_06 15:46

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 15:47

Uh next one, sir. 1983. Monty Python's The Meaning of Life is released on the US. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 15:57

Just put that one over there with the others.

SPEAKER_06 16:01

That opening of that movie is the best. It was what is the punishment? Boiling oil? Oh, a way for a way for thin mint. Just a way for thin mint.

SPEAKER_07 16:16

My name is Veronica. Uh we did a whole Monty Python episode uh talking about the show and all the movies and everything. Oh, I'm gonna say it was like last year we did an episode on that, and it was it was a fun episode.

SPEAKER_06 16:34

If you ever do Faulty Towers, let me know. I grew up I grew up with Monty Python and Faulty Towers, and those those are the those are the best.

SPEAKER_07 16:41

I don't know how how BBC we are other than like Monty Python, but you know, I'll give you a ring if that happens. I'm more of a uh I'm more of a uh a red dwarf uh oh there you go. The red dwarf uh uh black adder, IT crowd kind of guy.

SPEAKER_06 17:00

Yep, I remember those. Those were good. Black adder's hysterical.

SPEAKER_03 17:06

Um what's next, Mike? This one's for you too, Lee. 1999, 10 Things I Hate About You, a modern adaptation of Shakespeare's Taming of the Shrews, drawing Drew Less Styles, and Heath Ledger is released.

SPEAKER_07 17:20

One of my wife's favorite films, and one of the few films that my wife loves that I can actually tolerate. It's because it is Shakespeare. Well, if I said it once, I'll say it again. Heath Ledger is fucking dreamy in that film. Dreamy. He is, he's he is dreamy in that movie.

SPEAKER_06 17:43

And my daughter loves that movie. She has uh posters of him all over her dorm room.

SPEAKER_07 17:48

So did I.

SPEAKER_06 17:52

It's that hair. It's that hair, it's the accent.

SPEAKER_07 17:56

Uh next one, Mike. Oh, it's a good one.

SPEAKER_03 17:58

Talking about BBC. Uh 2010, Matt Smith's first appearance as the 11th Doctor with Karen Gillian as his companion in the BBC program, Doctor Who, during the 11th hour episode.

SPEAKER_07 18:14

We have to do a Doctor Who episode at some point so we can argue over who the best companion is.

SPEAKER_06 18:21

Which doctor you're talking about?

SPEAKER_07 18:23

We could do old school and new school, you know, all together. And that makes it even harder. That makes it even worse, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 18:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 18:33

I mean, I'm a Rose Tyler guy, I can't help it. I like Aaron Gillen too. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:42

Uh okay, and then uh last one 2025 Sinners horror film directed by Ryan Coogler and starring Michael B. Jordan, Haley Steinfeld, and Wound Me Musaki.

SPEAKER_07 18:57

You were really close. Bless you. Wound Me Musaku. Premier is in New York. Sinners is amazing. Sinners was so good. It is, it was I said this in the Oscar episode I did last week. It was my favorite movie of the year.

SPEAKER_05 19:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 19:18

I didn't think it was gonna beat one battle after another at the Oscars, but I was really hoping it would. Um it it didn't win as many Oscars as I was hoping it would, but it it had a pretty good showing. But I I really, really liked Sinners.

SPEAKER_05 19:32

That was a good movie.

SPEAKER_07 19:33

Yeah. Did you see Hamnet yet, Kev?

unknown 19:36

I did, but don't tell Megan.

SPEAKER_07 19:42

It was really, really good. My wife, my wife was not surprised that I fell in love with a beautiful woman with an Irish accent.

SPEAKER_05 19:51

That is heartbreaking, though, man.

SPEAKER_07 19:53

Oh, it is very heartbreaking. But it was a good movie. Uh let's play another song.

SPEAKER_05 20:26

These are tough times, right? Tough, tough times. People need their necessities and they're willing to do anything to get them. And the two stories I have for us tonight explain just that. You'll be surprised at where one of them takes place. Um, so our first story, Sheriff's Office releases video of a stolen beer truck crash and the suspects arrested. Uh, this took place in Vandenberg County, Indiana. The Vandenberg County Sheriff's Office has released body-worn camera footage from a March 27th crash involving a stolen beer truck providing new details into the incident that ended with a suspect in custody. Uh, according to Sheriff Noah Robinson, the video captures a moment surrounding the pursuit and subsequent crash of the stolen vehicle. Authorities say that the footage is part of the department's ongoing efforts to maintain transparency and keep the public informed. The reported incident, which occurred on Friday, uh March 27, involved deputies pursuing a beer truck reportedly stolen before the situation ended in a crash. The suspect was arrested following the incident. The Sheriff's Office credited multiple agencies for their assistance during the investigation and response, excuse me, including Indiana's state police, Evansville Police Department, Posey County's police office, Sheriff's Office, sorry, and the Vanderburgh County Prosecutor's Office. Officials also thanked working district. Contributors for their cooperation. And there is a link to the video if you'd like to see it. Those uh Bud Light trucks, because they're not heavy beers, they tend to travel a little bit quicker. You know?

SPEAKER_07 22:13

They're like the Mini Coopers in the Italian joke.

SPEAKER_05 22:22

Uh, and my next story, I'm gonna let you guys guess as to where this one takes place.

SPEAKER_07 22:27

Let's say Naples man arrested in Florida Keys, accused of punching store clerk while trying to steal beer. I'm gonna say this is a Florida man story.

SPEAKER_05 22:36

Yeah. Um Naples man was arrested.

SPEAKER_03 22:42

It wasn't me. I wasn't Florida lately.

SPEAKER_05 22:46

A Naples man was arrested in the Florida Keys on Tuesday after being accused of punching a store clerk while trying to steal an 18 pack of beer. Is it just me or is that an odd number for a pack of beer? Like he gets both packs, he gets it.

SPEAKER_07 23:01

It's not a half a case or a full case, it's like a three-quarter case. That's really weird. It's like a box, it's a box of cans.

SPEAKER_05 23:08

Is that only uh it's only 18 in a box of cans? They don't give you 24.

SPEAKER_03 23:12

No, I think it's 18 in a box of cans.

SPEAKER_05 23:14

How about that? According to the Monroe County Sheriff's Office, Johnny Lee Powers, 41, hit the Idle Morada convenience store clerk in the face when the clerk attempted to stop him from stealing an 18 pack of beer. No serious injuries were reported. Deputies responded to the scene at the Tom Thumb store near mile marker 88.5 at around 1010 p.m. The pardon me. The MS MCSO said the victims was the victim was holding his face and powers was trying to hide a beer in his backpack. Um powers then refused deputy's commands, clinched his fists, and tensed his body, which is what you're supposed to do when you're keeping collected. Yeah, before advancing forward to deputies in an aggressive manner. Something tells me he may have had a couple before he started this, you know, crusade.

SPEAKER_00 24:09

It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for him.

SPEAKER_02 24:14

I don't think it's there.

SPEAKER_05 24:15

There was a visible knife in Powers' pocket. Powers was tased and detained and was medically cleared at the uh Tavern Taverner Hospital and then arrested. Powers faces charges of battery theft and resisting arrest. And ladies and gentlemen, I just want to point out these are desperate times, and uh a lot of us are struggling, but uh violence is never the answer. Okay, of course, nor stealing beer.

SPEAKER_07 24:42

Make a friend, you know. And if you're gonna steal a beer truck, don't crash it. That's right.

SPEAKER_05 24:48

10 and 2, ladies and gentlemen, 10 and 2.

SPEAKER_03 24:51

Kevin, Kevin, you did miss the most important story that came out this week. Iron Hill Brewery is starting to reopen some of its locations.

SPEAKER_05 25:00

Uh well, you see, they're not opening any in Jersey, so it's not real news.

SPEAKER_07 25:05

They're not opening any near us, is what you said. Open it over here. In a uh in a site though. On a side note, Kev, I have my uh my friend Emma is obsessed with Florida Man stories and is constantly sending them to me on Instagram, so much so that my algorithm has been infected, and I am now getting Florida Man stories sent to me all the time.

SPEAKER_05 25:26

Well, that should mix well with your uh uh you know running from cryptids uh video Leo Runs from Florida Man.

SPEAKER_07 25:36

I can get an AI that works for me, sure. Uh Mike, you have a must-trike crew uh craft brew for us tonight?

SPEAKER_03 25:44

I do. Hyde's Dark Mild, it's only 3.5 alcohol by volume, is a traditional English beer brewed by Hyde's Anvil Brewery Brewery in Manchester, a family-owned company dating back to 1863. Due to the strong local demand, the brewery produces three mild styles: light, traditional, and dark, all the same base recipe, but varied through added grains and coloring. The brewery, which operates dozens of pubs, expanded alongside Manchester's industrial growth and adopted the anvil name in 1944 to symbolize strength and craftsmanship. Dark mild the dark mild stands out as it stands out for its use of chocolate malt alongside pale ale and crystal malts, giving it a deep color and rich flavor, brewed with a single hot variety fungals. It offers moderate bitterness, its flavor palette, prov features roasty chocolatey aromas, smoky roasted grains, and a bittersweet finish with hints of dark fruit and light spice.

SPEAKER_07 27:12

Dark mild seems like an oxymoron to me.

SPEAKER_03 27:15

Well, it is English.

SPEAKER_07 27:17

Dark mild. All right. We'll be right back after a short break with our main segment tonight. Uh, this year in Film History for 1986. All right, we're back with the main segment for this evening, which is the films of 1986. But before we get started, I have a film The Time Forgot for Jack. Jack usually joins us for the films The Time Forgot, and I re-watched this recently, having not seen it in about 30 years, uh, because I was expecting it to be on the list for tonight, and it wasn't until after I rewatched it and then looked at the list that I realized this movie came out in 85 and not 86. Uh, so I was off by a year, but I really wanted to see if Jack knew what this movie was. So 1985 movie directed by William Friedkin, who directed the French Connection, stars William William Peterson and Willem Defoe.

SPEAKER_06 28:07

William Peterson and William Defoe. Um William Peterson and William Defoe. Oh, geez.

SPEAKER_07 28:14

Um about a secret service agent who becomes obsessed with catching a ruthless counterfeiter.

SPEAKER_06 28:21

Oh, oh, to live and die in LA.

SPEAKER_07 28:23

Yeah, to live and die in LA.

SPEAKER_06 28:25

Yeah, it's a good one.

SPEAKER_07 28:27

It is a really good one.

SPEAKER_06 28:28

It's a good one. It's yeah, you know, it's funny. That's uh that's on my queue. I've seen it before, and it's on my cue, and I keep going back. I was like, I gotta check this out again, I gotta check this out again. I love that movie. Yeah, I forgot that um I knew Willem Defoe was in it, but I had forgotten um what's his nuts was in it from uh Manhunter.

SPEAKER_07 28:43

It's funny you said what's his nuts because you really see his nuts very clearly in the 4K version.

SPEAKER_06 28:48

Maybe that's it, it's a subliminal message, right? That's so funny.

SPEAKER_07 28:52

So yeah, it's a really it's a it's a bad shit movie, man, but it's fun. It's a fun movie to watch.

SPEAKER_03 28:57

Speaking of movies that time forgot, Lee. I'm going to the first 100 here, and I got like three that were all that I've already done is movies that time forgot.

SPEAKER_07 29:06

Yeah, I think 19 1986 is kind of lining up as being the year that most of us have picked movies from. And I think half of the movies on this list are on my list of those movies at 1960. I I guarantee you there's a few on my list as well. So, what we're gonna look at here is the in-year releases for 1986. So we're not looking at any movies that are carrying over from 85 or being released in December and going into 87. This is just for the calendar year of 1986, uh, by Box Office Gross. And this is the uh Domestic Plus Worldwide Gross here on Box Office Mojo. Uh, so we're gonna look at the top 20 because those are the films that I think that most of us probably remember, and a few that we've already covered on the show. And then when we get down to the lower uh end of the list, 21 through 30, 31 to 30 to 40, etc., we are going to draft films from those lists, and it's gonna go in the order of Mike, Kevin, Jack, and then me. I came up last in the draft order. Um, so we'll see what happens. But anyway, let's look at the top 21st. Uh, number one film for 1986, probably no surprise, making 176 million plus at the box office. Uh it was released in May 16th of that year. Stars Tom Cruise stars Anthony Edwards, Meg Ryan. That movie is Val Kilmer. Val Kilmer, yes, the late great Val Kilmer.

SPEAKER_05 30:41

Um Kenny Loggins. Bid star Kenny Loggins.

SPEAKER_03 30:46

You gotta also say the uh you know uh that died was the commander, their commander of the ship.

SPEAKER_07 30:54

Yes, he he actually just passed away recently. The uh the commander, the bald actor. I can't think of his name. Um, but he was the uh principal in in Back to the Future as well. Yep.

SPEAKER_06 31:04

Oh, Mr. Strickland there, yeah. Mr. Strickland, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 31:07

He just passed away. I can't think of the actor's name.

SPEAKER_06 31:09

Colonel Strickland dropping like dropping like flies.

SPEAKER_07 31:12

Yeah, well, I mean, he was fairly old.

SPEAKER_06 31:16

Yeah, I think he was like '93, wasn't he?

SPEAKER_07 31:18

Yeah, I'm looking it up now because I got I don't remember his name.

SPEAKER_05 31:21

He was also in that classic um Masters of the Universe.

SPEAKER_07 31:25

He was in Masters of the Universe, he was the cop.

SPEAKER_06 31:28

Basically, he played Strickland, I mean, as with a as a cop.

SPEAKER_07 31:32

I mean, it was with a badge, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 31:34

It was pretty funny.

SPEAKER_07 31:35

Let me see here. I'm looking at the later. We got Tom Cruise, Tim Robbins. I forgot he was in it. Kelly McGillis, Val Kilmer, Anthony Edwards, Tom Scarrett, Michael Ironside, John Stockwell, uh, Meg Ryan, James Tolkien, that's the guy that passed away. Uh playing Commander Stinger. Uh, I mean, this is it's top gun. I got a need, need to speed. Need for speed. Or as Quintin Tarantino calls it the most latently gay movie in Hollywood history.

SPEAKER_06 32:05

Well, he would know.

SPEAKER_05 32:06

Can any of you guys do that little mouth chomp thing that Iceman could do? I don't have enough chicken, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 32:15

I got missing a whole row of teeth. It doesn't work for me.

SPEAKER_05 32:19

You know, Maverick, I didn't like you, but when I saw when they saw you serve that volleyball, you're alright in my boat. Goose.

SPEAKER_09 32:30

Not goose. Not goose.

SPEAKER_07 32:33

So what's the what's the most what's the most famous scene from the film then? Is it the volleyball scene? Is it the slow motion? Is it or is it slow motion?

SPEAKER_05 32:44

Um it's the it's him on the motorcycle driving down the uh carnage, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 32:51

Yeah, with the with the yeah, with the fighter going by it.

SPEAKER_07 32:53

Yeah, or was it them plenty of clearance for that? Or was it them as poorly singing the righteous brothers in the bar?

SPEAKER_03 33:02

You lost that love.

SPEAKER_06 33:04

Um I still think it's Kenny Loggins. I mean, it's uh yeah. I mean, to me, if you know changes on I mean, if you don't have that song in that movie, it's not that movie. You can't have another song.

SPEAKER_02 33:19

What well that's like Kenny Loggins.

SPEAKER_06 33:21

That movie made that oh yeah, but that song made that movie. I mean, you can say what you want about everything else.

SPEAKER_03 33:27

That's the soundtrack you put in your Walkman and you got into the sit-town version of Afterburner and started playing.

SPEAKER_06 33:33

Oh, pole, dude. I was I was playing pole position back then at the arcade. Remember that? Or spine hunter? Remember Spine Hunter?

SPEAKER_07 33:40

Spy Hunter.

SPEAKER_05 33:41

Spinehunter was the best, man. It was originally supposed to be um um um just another Manic Monday by the Bengals. Oh my god. When they viewed it, you know, the the audience said just that could work.

SPEAKER_07 33:57

I could use I could use I could use my liar liar drop, but I'm gonna use one of my news drops just because I wanted the excuse to use it. So hold on.

SPEAKER_01 34:06

Mr. Madison, what you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

SPEAKER_05 34:38

Alright, that wasn't that far off.

SPEAKER_07 34:39

I know I could have gone with the liar liar. I just wanted an excuse to play my new drum.

SPEAKER_05 34:43

I was I was really toying with the idea of saying Linda Ronstadt was on contract to do the inscene.

unknown 34:49

Liar!

SPEAKER_10 34:50

Liar.

SPEAKER_02 34:56

You can't win.

SPEAKER_06 35:03

Imagine it's like Eye of the Tiger for uh Rocky III. You gotta have Eye of the Tiger, it's like, you know. I was always there's always that one song that's iconic with some movie, you know, that makes it get up the finish line.

SPEAKER_07 35:16

That's the 80s, because like when I I think Roddy Kid, I immediately think Joe Esposito. Uh what's the song Karate Kid 2 that was like a big fucking hit?

SPEAKER_05 35:26

Um it's something about a hero.

SPEAKER_02 35:29

Uh I am the man who will find food.

SPEAKER_07 35:35

I mean, because it's on the list, so we'll get to that one. So, number two that year at 174 million, a surprise hit, crocodile Dundee.

SPEAKER_06 35:46

That's not a knife. This is a knob. That's not a knife.

SPEAKER_07 35:51

I it's funny. I was listening to another podcast recently, and they had um they were interviewing this director who was Australian, and uh, I can't remember her name, but they said uh, just out of curiosity, what did Crocodile Dundee do for Australia when it came out? And she says, Not for anything. Paul Hogan was really well known in Australia at the time, he wasn't well known in the States until Crocodile Dundee, but that kind of made everybody think that that's what Australia really is. It's just like wide open wilderness with giant snakes, which is kind of like what the movie was, you know.

SPEAKER_05 36:27

She went out.

SPEAKER_03 36:28

Yeah, that's about crocodile dundee too.

SPEAKER_05 36:31

Oh, that's my bad.

SPEAKER_07 36:33

Crocodile Dundee was in New York. Yes. Anybody ever see Crocodile Dundee 3 where he goes to LA?

SPEAKER_06 36:40

No. Oh, yes, he just did, and it's just as forgettable as two.

SPEAKER_07 36:46

Yeah, it's not a it's not a great trilogy. It kind of just keeps going down from the first one. I saw the first Crocodile Dundee at the Colonial Theater in South Philadelphia. Uh, it was a one-screen theater with an old marquee out front. Uh, and it was a dilapidated falling apart theater. So I remember watching Crocodile Dundee and watching pieces of the ceiling fall down in the theater.

SPEAKER_05 37:14

In three, doesn't he go to the uh Nakatomi building? You know, it's like Easter though, and something happens.

SPEAKER_06 37:22

What they should have done is they should have had the karate kit and crocodile dundee do a team up. That would have been great.

SPEAKER_07 37:28

Yeah, it could be Expendable Spy, Ralph Macchio, Paul Hogan.

SPEAKER_06 37:35

So I just sent you the uh oh well, we'll get there. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_07 37:38

No, go ahead.

SPEAKER_06 37:40

No, no, go to the next one. Uh okay.

SPEAKER_07 37:43

Uh next one is the film that won the Oscar for Best Picture in 1987 because it came out in 1986. Platoon. Charlie Sheen, Willem Dafoe, uh Tom Beringer, uh Keith David, very young Farsi. Kevin Dillon. Kevin Dillon, very young Johnny Depp. Uh John C.

SPEAKER_06 38:02

McGidley.

SPEAKER_07 38:03

Yeah, it was a really stacked cast and a great movie. It's probably. I hate to call it my favorite Vietnam movie because you shouldn't really have a favorite Vietnam movie, but it's better. I I consider it like the best Vietnam movie.

SPEAKER_05 38:17

Oh, even more than Good Morning Vietnam.

SPEAKER_07 38:20

Well, I love Good Morning Vietnam. That one I will say I love because it's a comedy, even though it has some tragic moments in it. Uh, but Platoon, as far as like a gritty, like realistic war drama goes, it's it's the best version of it, I think. Some people argue full metal jacket, but full metal jacket, I think, is only good for like the first half hour.

SPEAKER_03 38:40

Well, that's full metal jacket is more about you know boot camp than it is actually about the war.

SPEAKER_07 38:46

Well, it's a half hour of boot camp and then two hours of the war, but most people just remember that half hour boot camp. So, but I love Platoon. It's it's it's is one of my favorite films, especially of the 80s. Uh best Oscar Oscar for Best Picture, and I think Oliver Stone won best director for this of it all. Uh karate. So speaking of karate kid part two, number four is karate kid part two.

SPEAKER_06 39:15

Yeah, so I put the um I put the soundtrack in the chat for you there. It's uh Peter Sotera. Oh, yeah. Glory of love. Glory of love. Here it is. Let's see if I can I can bring it up waiting.

SPEAKER_10 39:33

Here I got it.

SPEAKER_07 39:41

So this is gonna this is definitely gonna like uh ruin our uh monetization for this episode, but whatever. Whatever. Let's uh let's take a look at the at the video here. Peter Satara, that's the singer.

SPEAKER_06 40:21

That's definitely something I miss sorts of memories.

SPEAKER_07 40:23

Yeah, that's definitely something I miss about the 80s is music videos that were basically the entire movie in four minutes.

SPEAKER_05 40:29

Yeah, exactly. Oh, hey, MTV to show up. I'm listening to it, I'm watching it, and in my head I have visions of the uh Frankenstein dancing that we used to do at the school.

SPEAKER_02 40:45

Somebody's hands up here, somebody's hands down here.

SPEAKER_07 40:48

Don't get too close. I went to Catholic school, you have to leave room for the Holy Spirit.

SPEAKER_03 40:52

Yeah, I'm like you guys, I did not go to Catholic school, and I was a little bit older.

SPEAKER_07 40:59

A little bit closer when we danced. Mike was already dry humping on the dance floor.

SPEAKER_06 41:06

Yeah, by the time you get to uh what was it, eighth grade? Yeah, yeah. Because that was the top out dance.

SPEAKER_03 41:14

I just wanted to see that video. I was like, damn, that's the girl was cute, but it's still a downgrade. Damn Elizabeth Shoe.

SPEAKER_05 41:22

No true. But then in three, he has the he goes for the redhead. What's the three?

SPEAKER_07 41:28

Yeah, there's a third one. Yeah, the third one, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 41:30

That's um uh Robin Toon, not Robin Tooney. Was it Robin Tunney? Lively, Robin Lively, yeah, Robin Lively.

SPEAKER_07 41:38

I think it's Robin Lively. Uh here, I'm looking it up now. Karate Kid Part Three. Because why keep talking about 1986 when we could talk about 1989? Uh Robin Lively.

SPEAKER_03 41:52

Let's go off on the next one. You know how good the next one was.

SPEAKER_07 41:56

Because you don't want to talk about any of that. So, yeah, moving. Yeah, so speaking of dry humping, Star Trek 4, the Voyage Home is number five on this list for this year. Let's talk about colorful metaphors, okay? 109. So this is uh only the top five films this year made over 100 million.

SPEAKER_05 42:17

So this is the only Star Trek film my mother would even watch because she she she thought it was you know minimal kirk. It took place in in the current times, but she was cool with it.

SPEAKER_07 42:32

It wasn't space, it was San Francisco Vessels, nuclear vessels.

SPEAKER_11 42:37

Where are your nuclear weapons? Nuclear vessels, the vessels.

SPEAKER_05 42:44

Did either of you guys see or any of you guys see Picard, the series Picard?

SPEAKER_03 42:49

Uh watch part of the cards. I haven't watched the whole thing yet.

SPEAKER_05 42:52

Yeah, as a scene, it's seven of nine, and one of the other characters is on a bus, and you see this guy, and he's it is the guy, you know.

SPEAKER_07 43:00

That's what's the guy from the from the bus.

SPEAKER_05 43:03

And they asked him to turn it down, and he looks and his eyes go wide, and he turns it down. He goes, I'm very sorry. I didn't mean to offend. I'm very, very sorry.

SPEAKER_07 43:15

He didn't want to get Vulcan neck pitched again. Oh man. Anyway, down here from there for the you know, but anyway. Where it where's Star Trek 4 on your Star Trek list, Mike? Because you're the you're the original uh crew guy. So see.

SPEAKER_05 43:32

Better be better than the Rathicons 1, right?

SPEAKER_03 43:35

Rathicons 1. I would put this too. And I'd make the original four. Because I think anything after this has really gone down. Really?

SPEAKER_07 43:47

Because I I like the Undiscovered Country. It was pretty good. I like number six. I didn't like five. Five was dog shit, but I like number number six.

SPEAKER_03 43:57

That's because you're clinging uh because you like. Shakespeare in the original Klingon.

SPEAKER_07 44:02

Oh speaking of Klingon, number six, back to school.

SPEAKER_06 44:10

Oh, great film.

SPEAKER_07 44:12

I love Rodney Dangerfield so much. Triple Indy. Triple Indy, yes. I love like he he he is somebody who became famous very late in life. It wasn't until like his 40s when he started uh making it as a stand-up comic. And then uh it was the early 80s he did uh easy money, his first film. And I think this is either his second or third film, but it's it's my favorite of all the movies that he did. When did Caddyshack come out? I liked him in Caddyshack, but he wasn't the star of the film. Like this is him carrying the movie, especially the scene where he's in the tub with the uh the three young girls, and he's like, What are you studying? and she's like poetry, and he goes, Oh, perhaps you can help me straighten out my long fellow.

SPEAKER_06 44:59

I gotta revisit that one again.

SPEAKER_07 45:01

I love I I watch it like once a year. I love back to school. The scene with him and and Sam Kennison is the history teacher.

SPEAKER_06 45:10

Oh my gosh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 45:14

Sam.

SPEAKER_07 45:15

Sam. Oh god. Yeah, I think I'm gonna watch that later. So I'd like to point out that the uh uh so pardon the alliteration, but the haywire hayride hits hard. Yeah, feeling it right now.

SPEAKER_06 45:37

Warm friend, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 45:39

Uh on ice number seven, Jack is repping this film tonight with his little avatar there of hit of uh Hudson. Uh game over man go over. It's aliens number seven that year with 85 million dollars at the box office.

SPEAKER_03 45:54

Which we did an episode.

SPEAKER_07 45:55

We put her in charge. Yeah. So back in October of 2025, we did our first uh sequel wars episode where we did Alien versus Aliens. Um, Nathan from the Montserrat Island Film Vault was on that episode with us. Jack knows him, he was on the episode with him as well.

SPEAKER_06 46:17

I do, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 46:18

And uh we argued over which is the better film, Alien or Aliens. We debated a bunch of different topics about the movie, and I think ultimately we ended up on Alien as the better of the two, but I think it was only mainly because without Alien you wouldn't have aliens because they are on the surface. They're uh Dev, what were you gonna say?

SPEAKER_05 46:42

I was just gonna say it's uh the it was the appeal is the more suspenseful film, you know. That was to me at least, and Alien was the more suspenseful. I loved aliens, but it was action, you know what they look like, you know, and it all the elements of surprise were muted because you know the element of the queen, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 47:06

I think, but that's I was gonna say on the surface, they're two different movies because one is a suspenseful horror film, whereas the other one is a flat out action film. And I think James Cameron was smart in making aliens an action film and not trying to just recreate the original film.

SPEAKER_06 47:23

Oh, yeah, totally. Right. I mean, to me, they're they're two two perfect of the same coin, you know what I mean. Both sides uh they should have just stopped.

SPEAKER_05 47:32

Exactly. And as much as I like originals, I think I I enjoy watching the director's cut of aliens much more than I like watching the original theatrical cut where you see them go out and explore the ship and what happens and all those cutscenes, it makes a little better, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_06 47:51

Well, it definitely flushes out that story um at the beginning more. You're not just dropped in there, though. You know, as a kid watching that for the first time in the theater, man. I do you guys see it in the theater at the time?

SPEAKER_05 48:02

Yes. I would have been eight.

SPEAKER_07 48:04

I don't think maybe yes, I would have been I would have been like eight or nine years old. I'd probably been a little too yeah. I was good at tricking my parents into taking me to movies I shouldn't see, but there was a limit.

SPEAKER_06 48:13

Yeah, yeah. No, this this this movie I remember seeing as yeah, it was uh what was I, I think 15. So it's like the the the ripe age for that. So all our we we all went there, man. It was just a blast. I mean, you know.

SPEAKER_03 48:24

Hey, late after I'm not the old man tonight. That would have been 12.

SPEAKER_05 48:38

So I I go ahead, Kev. I was just gonna say what um Cthulhu Jack was mentioning. It made me think of um the the news stories that came out after the original where the parents are taking.

SPEAKER_07 48:52

Parents take their kids in nine and eight. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 48:55

Yeah. I I thought it was a good opportunity because you never know this may actually happen someday.

SPEAKER_06 49:04

Yeah, no, my parents never let me go to R-rated movies. I always had to either sneak out or go with pals. So, you know, that's how we got and and I knew people that worked at the theater, thankfully, because I was in a small town. But uh yeah, seeing Aliens as a kid was that was pretty wild, man. Uh yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_07 49:19

I mean, I I saw Aliens scary ass movie. I saw Aliens first, like I didn't see Alien first. Um I saw Alien first. Yeah, I was only a year old when Alien came out, so you know I didn't come to it till later in life, and I had seen Aliens first, right? And so like it was weird kind of watching them backwards. Um, but now like so many years later, having watched them numerous times, like you know, I I love both films and I can see the you know the difference, even though there's a wide difference between the two, they're both excellent movies.

SPEAKER_06 49:52

Oh, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_07 49:55

Hey, speaking of excellent movies, number eight, 79 million dollars at the box office that year, the golden child with Eddie Murphy.

SPEAKER_06 50:03

The Golden Child is such a bizarre movie, but it's so it's so much fun. Absolutely so much fun.

SPEAKER_07 50:09

They they make fun of me for liking it. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 50:12

Betty White was great in that movie. Betty White and B. Arthur were fantastic. Oh man.

SPEAKER_03 50:25

Kevin, Kevin, stop thinking. You bring the pretty, stop thinking.

SPEAKER_07 50:29

Yeah, I don't have enough, I don't have any more drops to use tonight for that.

SPEAKER_05 50:33

Thank you for being your friend.

SPEAKER_07 50:40

So, yeah, like they make fun of me for loving the golden child. Like, we did it a couple episodes ago, we did the career of Eddie Murphy. Uh, and I got laughed at because the golden child was in my top five Eddie Murphy films.

SPEAKER_06 50:54

Oh, come on.

SPEAKER_07 50:55

Really? I knew Jack would be on my side.

SPEAKER_06 50:59

Yeah. Well, my brother, I know my brother as a kid loved that movie. I don't know why, but he just watched that thing constantly.

SPEAKER_07 51:06

I'm not watching constantly, but I enjoy it.

unknown 51:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 51:10

To me, it's like so. This came out the same year as Big Trouble A Little China, which we will see later on the list. And to me, they're comparable films. Uh, because they were released at the same time because I think the studios were competing with each other, and and obviously the golden child won because it's Eddie Murphy. Um, even though I think Big Trouble's the better movie, but I still like The Golden Child. It's just such a bizarre movie for Eddie Murphy to do.

SPEAKER_06 51:38

Yeah, that's one I haven't seen actually since '86. Um that's I should probably do a double feature with that and Big Trouble Little China just to see the comparison. It should be fun.

SPEAKER_07 51:47

If you do, yeah. It's it's very much it's very comparable. Plus, you have two actors who are in both movies, James Hong and Oh, no kidding. Yeah, James Hong plays Lopan in Big Trouble, but he plays he plays a good guy in Golden Child. And then uh I can't think of the actor's name, but he plays Egg in Big Ch uh Big Trouble Little China. Uh the wizard guy that helps Jack Burton out. He's he is um the leader of the Buddhists in in in uh Golden Child.

SPEAKER_06 52:22

They just ran from one set to another set.

SPEAKER_07 52:24

Yeah, they basically did they were they were like co-filming the movies, yeah. It was like 'cause back in '86, it was like you need you need Asian actors. It was either James Hong or this other guy.

SPEAKER_06 52:35

Yeah, right, right. There's like five of them in Al Yong.

SPEAKER_07 52:39

Yeah, you know, in Al Yong, yeah. I think he's in both movies, too.

SPEAKER_06 52:43

Probably. I think John Rockamore of them and all those guys.

SPEAKER_07 52:45

Yeah. Uh number nine, Ruthless People.

SPEAKER_06 52:50

You know, this is one I've never seen, and I should I should see this, you know. I because I I got a lot, it got a lot of uh good stuff when it came out. I remember that.

SPEAKER_05 52:57

Was this Danny DeVito and um the Bet Medler? Yeah. So this and Judge Reinhold, I think.

SPEAKER_07 53:08

Yeah, it's Bed Midler, Judge Reinhold, Danny DeVito. A couple cheated by a vile business uh writer is Dale Lawner based on a story by O. Henry. Uh it's got three directors.

SPEAKER_05 53:22

It's based off of the one where they uh they uh he they you kidnap the kid, and the kidnappers are trying to hold him for an instant. No, you got you're good, you you keep it. And they're like, please take him, please take him. Because it's um oh god, I can't think of the the O. Henry story. But the kid's a new uh a menace, you know, and they're just ripping their hair off by the end of it. So you have this married couple who are driving each other nuts, and they're in in the process driving the um the kidnappers nuts, you know, and they're trying to deal.

SPEAKER_07 53:53

Yeah, I I have actually never seen this one myself either.

SPEAKER_06 53:56

The prequel to Home Alone, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 54:00

But it's it's got three right, it's got three direct. Oh, it's a Zucker Brothers movie. Jim Abrams, David, and Jerry Zucker. Yeah, so that the guys that did Airplane. Um yeah, I might have to check it out just for that reason.

SPEAKER_05 54:14

Yeah, I had no idea.

SPEAKER_07 54:15

Is it the turn? Not the turn of the screw. That wasn't O'Henry.

SPEAKER_05 54:19

No, it's not the turn of the screw. This was uh it was about it's like uh the ransom for little big chief or something like that.

SPEAKER_07 54:27

Okay, yeah, yeah. I'll have to check that one out. I haven't seen that one before. I mean, it was uh top 10 at a box office, so it must have some uh some merit.

SPEAKER_05 54:37

I can't believe I've watched a movie you haven't seen. I know, yeah, and I can remember and I can remember it so vividly, too.

SPEAKER_07 54:45

This is why Mike uh Mike had suggested one time we do a potluck episode where we all make each other watch a movie we haven't seen before. Um, you now know a movie I haven't seen before. Uh Ferris Bueler's Day Off, number 10 at the box office that year.

SPEAKER_06 55:01

Shake it up, baby.

SPEAKER_07 55:02

Now, yeah, a movie that we had covered on our John Hughes episode earlier this year. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 55:10

We really went over that movie. Well, we can't.

SPEAKER_05 55:15

I heard a theory recently. I heard a theory, it's a recent, it's um it's all in in um Cameron's head. Cameron's head, yeah. It's like he's dying, and this is his last like you know, memory before he passes away.

SPEAKER_06 55:29

Oh, that's depressing as hell.

SPEAKER_07 55:31

The theory I heard was that he was just that Ferris was like his his like it. You know, he was very shy, but like Ferris was like the the personality that you know can't that brought him out of a shell. Um I love Ferris Bueller's Day Off. It's one of my favorite John Hughes films. It's been like my top five, probably. Yeah, it's a great one. Right up there with weird science. Weird science. Number 11 at the box office that year, down and out in Beverly Hills. Another Disney film. It's weird that this is a Disney film. So was the first one. Beverly Hills. Yeah, Down and Out in Beverly Hills is Nick Nick Nolte.

SPEAKER_06 56:14

Right.

SPEAKER_07 56:15

Um Richard Dreyfus, little Richard, Matt Medler. Yeah, so um was it Nick Nolte is like a homeless guy that the this rich family takes in. So a rich but troubled family find their lives altered by the arrival of a vagrant who tries to drown himself in their swimming pool. And uh Nick Nalty, of course, plays the vagrant. Looking to see who's in this film. Nick Nolte, Bedmilder, Richard Dreyfus, and Little Richard. Like I said, little Richard. Mike the dog. And Mike the Dog. So I haven't seen this one in I was probably too young when I saw it. It's been a really long time since I've been. I've just seen it since it came out. Yeah, probably.

SPEAKER_06 57:07

You know what's crazy? So I'm I'm looking at the uh when it was released. It was released uh New Year's Day, right? 1990, uh, 1985. I 86, sorry. And it didn't leave the box office until April 1st.

unknown 57:21

Back.

SPEAKER_06 57:22

I mean, you just do not do that anymore.

SPEAKER_07 57:24

No, I mean I was par for the course back in the 80s and 90s, yeah. Like I want to go to the theater to see uh Project Hail Mary, but I'm afraid by the time I get to go see it, it's gonna be on video already. Uh number 12, a weird movie in the Martin Scorsese filmography, The Color of Money. Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise, uh Paul Newman, Paul Newman's only Oscar for Best Actor. Um a movie that Scorsese agreed to do so that the studio would finance the uh uh the the um what was the movie he did uh not the passion of the Christ, that was the Mel Gibson film.

SPEAKER_06 58:11

Oh, the uh The Last Temptation The Last Temptation of Christ. The last Temptation of Christ, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 58:16

Yeah Scresese had been trying to make that movie for a decade and hasn't wasn't able to get a budget for it, and he agreed uh to do the Color of Money with Walt Disney studio so that he would get the money for the last temptation of Christ.

SPEAKER_06 58:30

It's color of money is a great film.

SPEAKER_07 58:32

It's still a good movie. I mean, it's Scresese is like he didn't phone it in, like he's still directing. No, not at all.

SPEAKER_06 58:38

No. Tom Cruise and Paul Newman are fantastic in that film.

SPEAKER_07 58:41

Yeah, I mean, Paul Newman is recre is replaying his re praising his role from uh uh the hustler. Yeah, yeah, no, not the sting, the hustler. You're doing the music in the sting, Mike. I know the hustler with uh with uh Jackie Gleason.

SPEAKER_03 58:59

I was just wondering if you drank enough to get it confused.

SPEAKER_07 59:02

I'm slurring, but I'm not dumb. Uh yeah, Color Molly's a great movie. Number 13, a movie we covered earlier this year for its 40th anniversary. Stand by me. They call me Batman. That's lean on me. Was that on the title? Were you testing me, or was that on purpose, or did you actually make it? I was I was going with it. You were going that is lean on me. That's the stand by me. We did stand by me earlier this year. We did. Uh number 14, legal eagles.

SPEAKER_03 59:44

That was on my list of movies that I forgot that I wanted to do. Really?

SPEAKER_05 59:47

This was was this Harrison Ford or was this Robert Redford? Robert Redford and Daryl Ringer and Cher, I think, or Deborah Winger.

SPEAKER_03 59:56

Yeah, Deborah Winger. Every other day.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:02

I remember this, and then I remember Working Girl coming out, and I was like, okay, you have one male lead with two females, you know, kind of go back and forth. And I'm like, so they got confused.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:13

Yeah, that's the Harrison Ford one, Working Girl. Uh, so Mike, you can put this into pot luck. I've never seen Legal Eagles, so you can make me force me to watch this one if you want.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:22

I watched it.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:24

I saw number 15 at the same theater I saw Crocodile Dundee, the colonial cobra with Sylvester Stallone. Not the Cobra. His name is Cobretti. Cobra is his nickname.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:40

Oh man, this movie's so funny.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:42

It's so bad. It's it's unintentionally funny.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:45

Oh, yeah, it's insane. I mean, it's yeah, if you just want that shit crazy, check out Cobra.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:51

Well, here's the uh the origin of Cobra. Uh Sylvester Stallone was supposed to be in Beverly Hill's Cop. Uh it was gonna be more of an action film. He backed out because he had creative differences with the director, and they hired Eddie Murphy and made it into a comedy and became the number one movie in America that year. So Cobra was his answer to that. Cobra was like his version of what Beverly Hills Cop was supposed to be.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:18

Sorry. Oh, yeah, no, it's exactly. I could totally see the uh similarities.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:22

Oh, yeah, it's about a gang of axe murderers. Everybody in the gang murders with axes, as if that wouldn't be hard to like figure out if you're a cop.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:33

Oh my lord.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:34

All I remember from that film because I was young when I saw it, was that the uh the guy the villain gets killed by getting hung on a hook and and carried into the generator.

SPEAKER_10 1:01:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:46

That's all I remember.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:47

I don't remember that much. Yeah, that's Brian Thompson, is the bad guy in that mistake.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:56

Uh number 16 is an American tale, which Mike had mentioned earlier.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:03

We talked about Linda Ronstadt. This was her, this was her logins. This is her logins. Her login.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:10

Isn't this the film that has like the naked lady in the background? If you pause it at the right time, or is that the great master? I thought the guy's coming down.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:20

I thought it was the rescuers.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:22

Was it the rescuers? I know there's one where like they glide by a building.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:29

There you go.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:31

Uh speaking of classics, police academy three back in training, number 17.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:37

This is number three, by the way, by 1980.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:39

Number three. Yeah. Number one came out in 84, number two came out in 85, and number three came out in 86.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:47

They lost the goot.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:49

No, the goot left in number four.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:51

Yeah. Oh, okay. Oh, did it? Goot was in the 30s. They're to number 37 now, I think, aren't they?

SPEAKER_07 1:02:56

Yeah, I think they did. They did eight before they finally stopped. The eighth one was cut was in Moscow.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:04

They did just as many as the there are uh almost Jason movies. Like Jason surpassed them by just three.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:10

So I I love like we talk all the time about R-rated films that get made into cart kit children's cartoons in the 80s for some reason. Police Academy was one of them. Yeah, it sure was.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:23

Yeah, go ahead. Anything to sell toys. Yeah, no, no, it's okay. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:28

I was gonna move on to the next one unless he had something else to say about police academy.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:33

No, no, just violent cartoons based off of movies. We can go in. That could be a whole show in itself in the 80s.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:38

Rambo, Robocop, Police Academy.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:42

I even think Cobra was one to fit, you know.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:45

Yeah, I was surprised that there was no like predator or aliens cartoon in the 80s. I think the predator would have been a fun Saturday morning cartoon. We could have done a crossover with Scooby-Doo.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:58

Pee-wee's Playhouse with Predator.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:04

Uh today's secret word is every time you hear the what's the what's the thing he says? I don't have time to bleed. Every time you hear somebody say time to bleed. Uh Heartbreak Ridge, number 18. Good old Clint. Yeah, it's a good old Clint Eastwood one. Um I haven't seen this one forever.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:32

Is that a Western?

SPEAKER_07 1:04:34

No, it's no, he's uh he's like a drill sergeant.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:39

Never saw it.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:40

Really? That's good. It's not uh I wouldn't put it in like the top 10 Clint Eastwood movies, but it's not bad.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:50

No, but it has nothing to do with the medic that refuses to carry a firearm, right?

SPEAKER_07 1:04:54

That would be Hacks All Rich, no.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:56

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:59

And it's not the one where he drives a truck with a monkey. Number 19, Peggy Sue got married.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:08

Ah, this is a good one. My mom's favorites, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:11

Did you do this as a film that time forgot? Um or was it Married to the Mob?

SPEAKER_06 1:05:17

That's a good one, too. I think.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:19

Did I do Married to the Coppola?

SPEAKER_06 1:05:21

I thought I did My Blue Heaven.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:23

Was it My Blue Heaven? You never did My Blue Heaven. I never did My Blue Heaven. All right, that's gonna be in my next time. Yeah, maybe I'll forget by then.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:31

Don't worry about it. I'm drunk. Uh Poltergeist 2, the other side is number 20.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:39

That was actually a lot of fun. After Poltergeist, I've never seen any of the other ones. So the second one's not too bad.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:46

Okay. Is um Craig D. Nelson in the second one?

SPEAKER_06 1:05:51

Uh I don't remember. Uh I haven't seen that.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:55

Yeah, they had that little. A little short, freaky woman. She needs all the things.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:03

She was there. But the uh and the the girl, this was uh she ended up passing away, I guess, during the making of this one.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:08

So uh yeah, the little girl.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:09

Yeah, that that's like but that's all I remember.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:13

All right, so starting from number 21 to 30. We're gonna draft some movies now instead of talking about all of them. Uh Mike is gonna have first pick, Kevin second pick, Jack third pick, and I have the the fourth pick. Now for 21 to 30. I think I know what everybody's going to pick. I think I have a guess. Do you know? I think I do. I think Mike is going to pick running scared.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:40

Sweet freedom.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:42

You know I'm scared. I think Kevin is going to pick short circuit at number 21.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:50

I was thinking about short circuit. Is that just because um Fisher talk about Gutenberg all the time? I love the goot. And I tell my students more input, need more input. Nobody gets it.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:03

Yes. And then I was gonna say for Jack, I was not sure with Jack. I was considering the fly as the choice that you would take.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:16

I love the fly, it's a great film.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:18

Good old Cronenberg movie.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:20

Good old Cronenberg. It's got some uh it's pretty visceral, you know.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:24

So let's see, Mike, what were you gonna pick? I was gonna pick Running Scared. Evan, what were you gonna pick?

SPEAKER_05 1:07:31

I initially, I mean, yes, I was gonna go with short circuit, but I was torn between short circuit and three amigos.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:38

Little chop of heart. I was torn between short circuit and running scared, but um short circuits on my short list for movies that time forgot. Not short circuit two.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:51

No.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:53

You get you get more of Fisher Stevens as an Indian man in short circuit two than you do in short circuit one.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:59

That's true, yeah. That's true.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:02

Uh Jack, what are you gonna pick in numbers 21 to 30?

SPEAKER_06 1:08:06

Yeah, so the fly definitely I like, you know, of course. Um and then I, you know, there's a number 31 there, nothing in common, which was a Jackie Gleason, another Jackie Gleason movie.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:15

Oh, we didn't get to 31 yet. We're doing 21 to 30.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:18

Oh, sorry. Um, I tripped the save. Yeah, it's a let's say money pit. That's that's a fly. Good old Tom Hanks.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:33

Yeah, good old Tom Hanks. So then I'll take the fly then as my film because I love the fly, especially the original one. I think uh I think the Cronenberg fly is better than the original fly with Vincent Price. The only thing I like from the original fly was the half-fly man and the web at the end.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:52

Yeah, I mean that's all you remember, anyways. Hell yeah, help me. That's so spooky as hell. Yeah, no, Cronenberg did it right with the as far as remakes go. That's uh reimagines or whatever the heck you want to call it.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:04

Yeah, one of the better ones. Numbers 31 to 40. Let's see. I'm not gonna try to guess these, I'm just gonna go with it. Mike, what are you taking?

SPEAKER_03 1:09:13

31.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:13

Let me see what we got here.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:15

Ooh. Know which one I want. Oh. Oh, not if I get it first.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:24

I'm hurting here, guys. I'm hurting. Um badge. Uh I'm gonna go with Hoosiers. Hoosiers. Believe me, it's between Hoosers, Wildcats, and the great mouse detective.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:48

You can't go wrong with that. It's a great thing.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:50

Because Wildcats was on my uh movie.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:55

Definitely. Wesley Snipes and Woody Harrelson and and Goldie Horn. But I'm gonna take I'm gonna take Uzers.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:03

I love Hoosers.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:05

Kev, which one are you thinking?

SPEAKER_05 1:10:08

Tough choice. Um I think I'm gonna go with Soul Man. You just can't movie. You just can't take that if you would take it.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:21

That movie is so I wish they would re-release that movie now. That would be god, it is heads explode.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:28

The definition of a movie that you cannot make today. We talked about this. Mike and I absolutely did an episode on the career of James Earl Jones. Uh and uh Kevin, Kevin couldn't make it that night, so it's just me and Mike that night, and we talked about this at length because I couldn't believe James Earl Jones is in this.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:49

Yeah, you know, I haven't seen a since I was trying to look when this when uh you guys asked me on here. I was looking through the list and I was like, Soul Man, I gotta see if I could find this, and I couldn't no hard pressed to find it out there.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:00

It is a really hard movie to find.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:03

I'll find it though.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:05

Jack, you get to pick now.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:08

Well, he took my soul, man. Uh no, I was gonna say, well, I'll say uh nothing in common, which is a great uh sweet little Jackie uh Gleason movie. Uh at the time of I don't think Gutenberg's in that, I'll have to look. But um yeah, I just remember seeing that at the time when it came out, and I yeah, I had a good time with it. Everything else I don't think I've really seen. I never I actually never saw Hoosiers, I don't think, except maybe in clips, but I don't remember it.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:30

So that leaves me with uh I could do Hanna and her sisters, which is an Oscar-winning film. I could do Children of Bless her God, which is an Oscar-winning film. I could do Jumping Jack Flash, which is will be Goldberg's first movie, or one of her first films, but I'm gonna go with Wildcats since Mike wasn't able to take that one. I'll take Wildcats. I like that movie. Yeah, that takes us to 41 to 50.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:57

Oh, I was gonna say uh real quick. Uh uh, nothing in common was uh Tom Hanks and Jackie Gleason.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:02

Okay. Oh, you know what? I saw that. I think I've seen that one. Sounds very familiar, but it was I was probably a kid when I saw it. So uh let's see, 41 to 50. Now we're getting into like the mire here because you're gonna get a little harder to pick things up.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:18

Well, I think I'm gonna go with uh another movie that kind of forgot.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:22

Well, don't we go in reverse now? Or do we follow the same?

SPEAKER_07 1:12:26

I'm not doing the snake drafting, okay. Okay, too confused. I'm too drunk for that. Okay, I'm going with Iron Eagle. Iron Eagle, Louis Casa Jr. One of our uh our twin films for 1986 because of Top Gun.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:42

Yeah. I'm surprised. Isn't a room with a view a uh Bond film? No, that's a room with the view is a it's a drama.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:50

Yeah, you're thinking of View to a Kill. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:57

Room with a View to a Kill.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:59

Oh shit.

SPEAKER_10 1:13:00

Damn it!

SPEAKER_07 1:13:01

Yeah, I saw you. There's one here, there's definitely a couple you missed on there. Go ahead, Kev. What do you think?

SPEAKER_05 1:13:07

I know I was gonna say. Um, it's a good run of 10, actually. Guess I have to be nostalgic and go with uh flight of the navigator, which is something Mike was gonna take.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:21

I'll check I'm talking, I was talking about the one above it. Oh, really?

SPEAKER_05 1:13:26

That's a good one. House is great. I was between Flight of the Navigator and FX, and I've only seen FX a handful of times, but I like the premise of it.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:36

And Brian Denny, come on, and Brian Denny and Brian Brown.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:41

So uh Jack, what are you gonna think then?

SPEAKER_06 1:13:45

Actually, I was gonna it's a tough one because it's a pretty good run of films, actually. Um I I'm actually gonna go with FX because when I saw this as a kid, I I was already getting into makeup effects just on my own, and seeing this movie as a kid just blew my mind that you can drive around in New York City with a you know panel van and just have that be your makeup vehicle. Was like for me, it blew my. I mean, so what happened was when I ended up going to college for makeup effects, we did that. We we didn't drive around, but we did have set up our own makeup effects shop, but squarely based off of this movie because we and we had it in a warehouse and everything. It was just that so much as that movie impacted me for a long time because it was just so damn cool that kind of lifestyle. Not necessarily like you know, they don't helping the FBI out, but just doing the makeup prosthetic stuff and like you know that whole double agent thing. I was just I don't know, man. It was pretty wild.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:37

What about FX2?

SPEAKER_06 1:14:39

I like the FX2 actually. For a sequel's not too bad, not too bad. Um, but the other one I was gonna go with with with Tough Guys is a good one, too, with Kirk Douglas. Uh that's a fun old one.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:50

I was I was debating since you guys took the three that I probably would have taken. Uh I was debating between Tough Guys with Bert Lancaster and uh because I I like that movie too. I've seen that a couple times when I was younger. Uh, but I think in honor of the uh passing of the great Chuck Norris, I'm gonna go with Delta Force at number 50.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:10

There you go.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:12

I'm really sad.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:14

You get Jason 6 too. You get the best you get the best Jason movie up there, too.

SPEAKER_10 1:15:17

One of the most Jason movies.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:19

I mean, geez, that's a that's a good run of 10, right? Crazy, they only made like 19 million dollars, but I guess an 86 86 dollar money. That's when gas was a buck 68.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:32

That's pretty good for a horror film, anyway. Like horror films are usually so niche, they don't always do that well at the box office to begin with. Uh 51 to 60, Mike. You're taking Song of the South re-release, right? I'm probably the only one actually.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:51

Um I know it from Splash Mountain. That's it.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:56

Well, I'm gonna go with Howard the Duck.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:01

Oh, you know, I made the movie up the other day. The movie's almost two hours long. I was like, why is this movie almost two hours long? It should be 76 minutes at best.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:12

When you're gonna put so much movie uh money into special effects, you gotta make it worth the while.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:17

I was so because I love the comic as a kid. And when I saw this movie, I was like, this is not the comic.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:23

Well, you needed those extra 10 minutes of duct tits at the beginning of the film.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:27

They made the film, that's all I remember.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:29

That's all I remember too.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:34

That and Leah Thompson being really Marty's mom. Marty's mom and duck tits is all I remember.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:40

What was up with Leah Thompson in the 80s was either incest or bestiality?

SPEAKER_06 1:16:46

Hey man, girl had to work, you know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:50

Oh, she was getting lost in space at space camp, right? Yeah, space camp.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:54

Uh Kev, which one are you taking?

SPEAKER_05 1:16:58

I'm gonna go with Armed and Dangerous.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:00

There you go. That's actually one of the ones I thought Mike might have taken. I thought it was a good one.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:05

John Candy and Meg Ryan and Eugene Levy, and yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:11

Man, that's narrowing it down for me now. So Jack, what do you got? Consider there's two re-releases in that in that 10 movies.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:18

I know I know.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:19

Well, I was gonna say I would go with the re-release, but I'm gonna go. You know, this movie catches a lot of shit, but I'm gonna go with Legend. I I've always loved Legend, man. It's ever since I saw it for the first time.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:30

Yeah, Tim Carey in that film. Oh my god, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:32

He's he's good. If you ever, if you I don't know if you've seen the um there's two scores. You get the original, you know, uh theatrical tangerine dream score, and then you got the Jerry Goldsmith score, which uh in the that with the director's cut is uh basically a completely different film. It's really, really, really good. Um, and gives it a completely different tone, much darker. Um, but yeah, I don't know. That that movie is just fantastic. I have a good time with that.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:57

So that leaves me with three choices: either the mission, which is a squirced, which is uh Schwarzenegger film, I think.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:09

Rod Deal?

SPEAKER_07 1:18:10

Is that Schwarzenegger? Oh no, I'm thinking of I'm thinking of something else.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:13

No, Rod Deal Schwarzenegger.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:15

Is it Schwarzenegger?

SPEAKER_06 1:18:16

Yeah, it's on satisfaction at the end when he's driving around blowing shit up in the junkyard.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:23

Or the Mosquito Coast, which is a Peter Weir film.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:26

Uh that's a good one.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:28

I'm gonna say just because I'm a Scrisese guy, I'm gonna go with the mission. Good old Scrisesi Bobby Bobby.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:34

What about Psycho 3? Leaving Psycho 3 outside.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:36

Psycho 3, Jesus. I saw Psycho 1 and Psycho 2, and I never watched another one.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:43

Well, yeah, I mean, in case you forgot what happens in the first two.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:48

Let me guess, he's a psycho and he kills people.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:51

Yeah, Mosquito Coast is great. That's the one I gotta I gotta check that out again. I would I love that movie.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:55

So there's a podcast I listen to all the time called Blank Check, and they do the career of directors on each episode. They do a different movie from their career, and so they're doing Peter Weir right now, and I think the next episode is Mosquito Coast. So I'm gonna check that out. Uh, number 61 to 70. Do I need to tell you what I'm thinking? Labyrinth?

SPEAKER_02 1:19:17

No. Oh, Club Paradise. I'm taking Club Paradise, baby.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:20

Mike is taking Club Paradise. I love that movie. Robin Williams. A movie you did on movies of Time Forgot. And got you on it. Because I had never seen it, so you had mentioned it, and then I actually watched it not too long after that. Uh let's see. Kev, what are you taking?

SPEAKER_05 1:19:40

I'm actually gonna go with uh One Crazy Summer.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:44

I know that's one of your movies from Films of Time Forgot. Yeah, look at this. We're hitting a lot of, I think 86 is probably our most popular year for Films of Time Forgot.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:53

Well, we can go down from further down. There's more coming. Oh, I know.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:58

Jack, what are you taking?

SPEAKER_06 1:20:01

Um, a little trivia there with one crazy summer. So I worked with uh Cusack on a film back in the 90s, and we had talked about uh that movie in particular because I I love that movie. It's a you know it's another fun summer Q Zack film. Originally it's supposed to be shot in Martha's Vineyard, but they couldn't get the permit, so they ended up shooting it on Nantucket. Um, so that's where the film was shot eventually inevitably, which was kind of a fun little piece.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:26

I like that, and I like Better Off Dead. I think those are my two 80s Cusack movies that you know stand out to me.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:35

Oh, yeah, no, 100%. Let's see. Um this is a good one. I think we have to go with critters, a little Scott Grimes, uh nice rolling around. Uh thank you for leaving me the one I want.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:53

You're taking you remind me of the babe. No, nothing, nothing, tralala, labyrinth.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:04

I do like critters though too, Jack. If you took labyrinth, I was gonna take critters. I'm glad somebody yeah, no, I'm I love labyrinth.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:10

Um, I you know it's funny seeing people reaction to labyrinth now as opposed to when we were kids watching it, because it when you're kids watching it, like you don't really you're just kind of like oh whatever. But now everybody's like reading too much, or not reading too much, but they're just reading more into things than they back then, which is kind of comical.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:27

Like the fact that David Bowie's bulge is in love with Jennifer Connolly at 16 years old. What are you talking about? I don't know what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:35

Don't ruin things for me. Yeah, no, exactly. His bulge got there before he did.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:40

This is how much I love Labyrinth. I got my Ludo right here. There you go. All right, number 71 to 80. I'm getting fucked this round.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:52

You are because I'm taking big trouble.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:54

You are, maybe son of a bitch. Right off the bat. Boom. I love that movie. One of my top five John Carpenter films.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:07

Absolutely. I love John Carpenter so much. I actually own two of the uh two of his uh tank tops.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:13

Of the uh Jack Burton tank tops?

SPEAKER_06 1:22:15

Jack Jack Burton tank tops. I love those. That's a that's a great design.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:19

This uh this one right here that Kevin's wearing in our promo photo.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:22

Yes, that's very much so.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:26

I know what Kevin's taking. Kevin's taking space camp.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:30

Yeah, that was his time. I don't know, I don't know. I'm looking at Care Bear. The new generation, you don't want anything to do with that.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:40

Come on. Oh, that's true. That's where they take the all spark and they put it back down into Grumpy Bear and Grumpy Bear comes back alive. The all spark, care bear stair.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:51

He's now he's now the ruler of the Transformers. So what are you taking, Kevin, for real?

SPEAKER_05 1:22:59

Oh oh okay. I'm taking space game.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:03

It's a movie that time forgot for Kevin earlier in the show. Uh wow, there's actually some pretty good ones left over in this group.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:13

Yeah, there are there's some down farther down too. Jesus.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:16

I know. So um Jack, which one do you want?

SPEAKER_06 1:23:20

I'm just gonna go with Blue Velvet. It was it was it's a tough one, but I blue velvet's gonna come through for me because it was either that. Well, we're done big trouble, but uh yeah. So Manhunter's uh another good one, too. I love that movie.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:33

Yeah, so I'm looking at it like I would have taken blue velvet too, because it's just David Lynch. I love David Lynch.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:38

Um I mean it's a shame it's 77 on the list.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:43

I know. I mean, yeah, I mean it's it's funny, it is a true cult classic because it did not do well at the box office.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:49

No, um no, neither did Big Trouble, Big Trouble tanked. Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:55

I look at it as so I got Manhunter, there's a good one, William Peterson again, or wise guys, which is Joe Piscopo and Danny DeVito.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:09

Yeah, that would be a good one to do. That'd be a good double feature to do wise guys and tough guys too.

SPEAKER_07 1:24:13

And tough guys, I know, because it's another like another like twin film thing. But I'm gonna I'm gonna take Manhunter because you know it's it's the uh Manhunter, you know, it's the same writer of Silence of the Lamb, so I'm gonna go with that one. Yeah, yeah. 81 to 90. Let's see here. Oh god. I know what I'm saying. Mike's taking Haunted Honeymoon.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:35

Uh let me give you a little backstory because when you know, back when all these movies were on HBO all the time, and you used to tape them off HBO on the VHS. I had Haunted Honeymoon and Club Paradise back to back on the same day.

SPEAKER_07 1:24:49

So go on with Haunted Honeymoon. I knew you were taking it because you did Haunted Honeymoon as a movie at Time Forgot as well.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:54

So we that that means we know what Kev is taking because he did that one The Time Forgot. Number 88.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:01

Uh number 88, the boy who could fly. What are you gonna do? Shoot me with the water pistol? Ain't no water in this water pistol.

SPEAKER_07 1:25:12

Yeah, I can't believe I really think 1986 is the year that is that we have had the most films of Time Forgot on the list. That's crazy. Uh so Jack, I'm really curious to see what you would take in this group.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:26

Yeah, this is a tough one. Um I don't know, it's like kind of a toss-up, to be honest. Um, I'm feeling like either oh man. Texas Chainsaw 2 is I had a good fun with that, and I like Maximum Overdrive. Then there's something wild, is what's that?

SPEAKER_03 1:25:53

Those are the two I thought you would be looking at.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:56

Yeah, but then I'm looking at like the name of the rose, and I like that.

SPEAKER_07 1:25:59

It's a good, you know, Sean Connery and Maximum Overdrive directed by Stephen King and all the cocaine.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:06

Oh, yeah. No, that movie's ridiculous, you know.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:10

And then you get something wild crazy in the dictionary. It's a picture of Maximum Overdrive.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:17

Yeah, so I guess I'll go with Maximum Overdrive for the Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:20

Good. I talked Jack into taking Maximum Overdrive so I could take the name of the Rose.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:25

Damn you.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:27

I like the name of the Rose is a uh a murder mystery that takes place in a monastery during the Inquisition. Stars uh Sean Connery and a very, very young um Christian Slave. Yeah. Uh good movie based on a on a novel by Umberto Echo, a very good novel. Um yeah, so I I had seen this uh back when I was doing like film theory in college, it was the first time I saw this, and it's it's an excellent movie. Oh, really?

SPEAKER_06 1:26:56

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I haven't seen it since it came out, but it's I it's it's still impact me. It's uh I like that movie a lot. Yeah, it's really it's still it's kind of crazy. Oh, go ahead. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:06

No, go ahead. What are you gonna say?

SPEAKER_06 1:27:07

No, I just it's kind of interesting because this year you have this this movie come out, and then The Mission as well, which are two fantastic movies that are have to do with religion on uh infections of that nature, you know.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:19

But the thing I liked about Name of the Rose is it was like a murder mystery as well. So they kind of gave you yes, yeah, absolutely. It's like a different way of looking at a murder mystery story. All right, so we're gonna do one more stack 91 to 100, and then after that we'll just kind of like troll through a few. Uh so Mike, what are you gonna take from 91 to 100?

SPEAKER_02 1:27:37

The movie that you and I both owned Transformers the movie, you damn right. We both owed this movie on Blu-ray, D V D, whatever it is. We have it. Here it is, DVD Transformers the movie.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:52

There you go. You got the touch, you got the power, still cry whenever Optimus Prime does. So I uh Jack, I'll tell you the story of this. I bought this DVD in a GameStop maybe 25 years ago. No way. It was in their five dollar bin. And I picked it up and I was like, no way. It's special edition, five dollars. I put it on the counter, and the guy working behind the cat the cashier goes, we had this. And I said, Yep, now I have it. That's funny. Uh so Mike took that. Kev, what are you taking?

SPEAKER_05 1:28:36

Oh man.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:37

Oh, you're not taking Highlander.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:42

No. 98. It can be only one.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:46

Highlander was my uh movie Tom forgot for me, but I'm surprised you took the Transformers.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:56

Okay. I'm between nine and a half weeks. My little pony.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:06

That's a great combo.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:07

I can see the relation between the two.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:13

My little pony's in my nine and a half weeks. Gentlemen, they're what you're gonna do for the third movie is you gotta you get to watch a fine mess, because that's exactly what the third movie should be, is a fine mess. Or just between friends.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:30

I'm gonna watch it.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:31

Just between friends, my little pony goes nine and a half weeks.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:34

Nine and a half weeks. We need a Scotsman to play a Spaniard. Egyptian, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:40

And a Scotsman to play a Spaniard from Egypt and a Belgian to play a to play a Scotsman. So you're taking Highlander, not My Little Pony, the movie? That's right. Over nine and a half weeks. So, Jack, what would you be taking in the 91 to 100 realm? I'm gonna say the hitcher.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:03

Yes, I I was it's a tie between the hitcher and uh Highlander, but yeah, no, the Hitcher is uh remember seeing that in '86, but I didn't see it in the theater. I started when it first hit HBO, and um I think I have every iteration of that movie on every type of media you can find because it's just that movie, I don't know what it is, but that's a I I find that movie to be perfect.

SPEAKER_07 1:30:23

And you covered it, I believe, right?

SPEAKER_06 1:30:25

On your on your uh no, I haven't covered it yet. Um, it's one that I'm I'm working on. No, because I like I guess I'm trying to figure out which um version because the problem is that when they put out different versions, they like recut it and they they add things and so on and so forth. So um, but uh no, I haven't done it yet.

unknown 1:30:42

But yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:43

I never saw the I never saw the remake with Sean Bean, which uh I don't think I will.

SPEAKER_07 1:30:48

No, it wasn't great. Uh the original one's still better. Sean Bean died. He does. He's the villain to get shot in the head. Uh, for lack of anything else, really on this list. I'm going to take nine and eight weeks.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:03

Oh, you're not gonna go with trick or treat?

SPEAKER_07 1:31:07

You're not gonna go with my little pony.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:09

I can't believe trick or treat made more money than Highlander and the hitcher. The original actually made more money than my little pony. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:18

I like the trick or treat with Anna Packwin. The uh anthology film that came out in the early 2000s. That's a really good film. Yeah, it's like Black Moon Rising. Yeah, all right. So now the 100 to 200 list. We're not gonna go through the whole thing. If there's anything on there that sticks out to anybody, feel free to like point it out. Um, but it's really like you know, you got The Crossroads, which is a Ralph Macchio film. We got Troll, no we trade Nancy, Sid Nancy, you got Invaders from Mars.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:50

Nomads, that's a classic uh Time Forgot.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:53

Isn't that isn't Nomads um James Bond's in that? Yeah, Pierce was it Pierce Bronson or or Timothy?

SPEAKER_06 1:32:00

Yeah, yeah, Pierce Bronson's in it.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:02

Pierce Bronson was in that one, right? Yeah, um we tried a cradle. That was the a director I know too for nomads.

SPEAKER_06 1:32:10

Betty Blue. That's uh if you really want to see a super depressing French film, and there I know there's a lot. Betty Blue, trust me. That you have watch that and Sid Nancy, then you'll want to go jump off a cliff.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:23

Isn't that kind of the definition of French films?

SPEAKER_06 1:32:25

Yes.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:26

Oh, that's right. No, nomads is the first movie by John McKiernan. Um, right, who did diehard. Uh Solar Babies. Yeah, Solar Babies. Ping Kong lives. Yep.

SPEAKER_06 1:32:42

Rad. Rad. Look at this. And Go Bots, Battle of the Rock Lords came out the same year as Transformers the movie.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:48

We did an episode back in, I want to say it was like season two or three. We did an episode called Twin Films, and we did the 80s, and like we talked about all the movies that came out in each year of that decade that were twins of each other, and so it was Transformers and Go Bots were definitely twin films that year.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:04

Uh oh, that's great. No retreat, no surrender. Uh the man.

SPEAKER_07 1:33:07

We got the Wraith with the which Mike did on Tills the Time Forgot. Right.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:13

Uh from Beyond, of course. Classic.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:16

From Beyond.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:17

One that stands out to me when I just remember watching it, I guess, on HBO or something. It was a claymation version. It was called uh The Adventures of Mark Twain. Um, a lot of little short claymation vignettes about Adam and Eve and all this other stuff. He's essentially he's trying to get back onto Haley's Comet, knowing that that's you know where he wants to be uh when he passes away. But it was also terrifying, too. Like these, like it's it's a very creepy movie. Yeah, there were air air elements to it that I was like, hmm, that's freaky.

SPEAKER_07 1:33:49

Yeah, it's it's a very, very creepy movie. So let's see what else we got on this list here.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:55

I saw something up above Clan of the Cave Bear.

SPEAKER_07 1:34:01

Clan of the Cave Bear, yeah. There's uh there's another movie on this list, Salvador, which is an Oliver Stone film.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:34:10

Starring James Woods.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:13

Yeah, it's a journalist on then uh yeah, A Million Ways to Die, that's uh Jeff Bridges movie.

SPEAKER_07 1:34:22

And I'm getting then you get down like the dregs here, and it's like, yeah, so there's the adventures of Mark Twain, Nutcracker. Uh let's see, Lord Nevik. I know Knight of the Creeps.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:35

Night of the Creeps is great.

SPEAKER_07 1:34:36

That's a Knight of the Creeps. I know that one, yeah. Uh let's see. Lakaj off all three. There's three La Kajaf all films. Jesus. I didn't really have a good ear for comedy in France, I guess. Uh let's see. Strippers, 16 Days of Glory, and Hard Bodies 2. Is this the one you were talking about, Jack? Radioactive Dreams.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:01

Yeah, it just looks like it's on YouTube right now. You can watch that.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:04

Um that's how you know it's great.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:07

Yeah, I gotta check it out. It looks pretty wild.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:09

I'm gonna have to watch that too if it's on YouTube. Okay, the last five in order. Last five, steward school, jocks, stripper, 16 days of glory, and hard bodies two. I didn't know they ranked pornos. Yeah, exactly. Is that Cinebax after dark? That's what it looks like, man.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:32

So I'm going to Stuartess School while hanging out with some jocks while I strip at night during 16 days of glory, and then I have a hard body. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:41

I I don't I don't care for uh for Stuartess School when you already have ski school, which is a much better film.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:50

Then you get girl in the picture above it, which is hysterical.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:54

So I'm looking at radioactive dreams and IMDB. It was actually released in 1984, but not released in America until 1986. So this this looks an emerging emerging from their fallout shelter after nuclear war, two brothers fashioned themselves after 1940s detectives in a brave new world of mutants and freaks. Jesus.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:13

So it's fallout, I know, right? Yeah, it's fallout, basically.

SPEAKER_07 1:36:17

Exactly. Sounds like Fallout.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:19

Yeah, when I saw that and I saw a trailer for it, I was like, Yeah, I gotta check this out. This is definitely like early 80s fun.

SPEAKER_07 1:36:25

Uh, I'm definitely gonna check that out too. All right, so that was the uh list of the top 200 films of 1986. Mike, you have any beer trivia for us?

SPEAKER_03 1:36:36

Yes, I do. In the 18th and 19th century, scientists like Louis Pasteur explained that fermentation is a natural process, not witchcraft. Using using a microscope, Pasteur showed that yeast is a single-celled fungus, converts sugars into alcohol and carbon dioxide. There are two main types of brewer's yeast: ale top fermenting and lager bottom fermenting. Ale yeast works best at warmer temperatures and forms foam on the top, while what while lager yeast thrives in colder conditions and settles at the bottom. However, both function throughout the liquid, so the terms warm fermenting and cold fermenting are more accurate. Yeast also plays a key role in flavor as it produces during ferment fermentation and carries characteristics from batch to batch. Breweries carefully preserve their yeast cultures and maintain yeast banks to ensure consistency and replace supplies if contamination occurs. Everybody got that I'm trying to teach Kevin's so I can start making beer.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:02

Actors are agents of change, a film, a piece of theater, a piece of music, or a book can make a difference. Always. Alan Rickman.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:19

I was wondering if you're gonna try to do an Alan Rickman.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:22

I don't do a very good Alan Rickman, but I try to do an Alan Rickman.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:26

Allen Rickman, and this is Alan Rickman. Uh how are our drinks tonight, gentlemen?

SPEAKER_03 1:38:33

Very good.

SPEAKER_06 1:38:34

Yes, delicious. Mine is quite empty.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:40

Just so you guys know that I got my second shipment from Blind Barrel. So I have 12 bottles. So the next 12 weeks is nothing gonna be blind barrels.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:49

I really enjoyed the haywire hay ride. I am fucking hammered. So I'm gonna pause it for that. All right, thank you for joining us tonight for episode 232 this year in film history for the year 1986. We hope you enjoyed listening to the podcast as much as we enjoyed recording it for you. Uh, remember you can email us to films and fermentation at gmail.com or visit linktree.com slash films and fermentation to find all of our social media podcast links. You can watch us on the Pod Nation Media Network on Roku, on YouTube, or on Rumble, or you can join us at patreon.com slash films and fermentation. Uh, I'd like to thank uh Cthulhu Jack again for joining us tonight. Jack, thanks again.

SPEAKER_06 1:39:35

Thank you guys. I appreciate it. And uh I appreciate you having me on. And uh I always love uh revisiting 1986.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:42

I love revisiting the 80s in general. It's just such a fun time for movies.

SPEAKER_06 1:39:47

Oh, absolutely.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:48

And Jack, we love having you on. You're like our our earsat's fourth uh co-host anyway.

SPEAKER_06 1:39:54

Oh, thank you.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:55

Uh anything you like to tell the uh audience about, Jack, that you're working on right now or anything?

SPEAKER_06 1:40:00

Or uh no, right now I'm just gonna I'm just plugging away, trying to get some videos done for the channel, and uh that's about it. So you can just check us out on Cthulhu Jack Presents on YouTube.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:11

I'd like to suggest to live and die in LA.

SPEAKER_06 1:40:15

Yes, I gotta get to that one.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:19

Don't forget to stop by. Oh my god, don't forget to stop by the crossroads between pickled and ferment it next time around for episode 233. We're gonna look at the worst remakes of all time, a ranker list special. Pretty much all in the meantime. Yeah, in the meantime, I'm Leo.

SPEAKER_06 1:40:37

I'm Kevin, I'm Mike, and I'm Jack. Oh, sorry.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:42

It's you, and this has been the Films and Fermentation Podcast. Cheers, everybody.

SPEAKER_06 1:40:47

Cheers, cheers.