Recasting Special: One Movie. One Recast. Unlimited Bad Decisions

This week on Films and Fermentation, we’re taking some of our favorite movies of all time and committing the ultimate act of cinematic chaos: recasting them with modern actors. Each of us secretly picked one legendary film we wish we could experience again for the first time, then rebuilt the cast from scratch like Hollywood executives with too much confidence and a dangerous amount of caffeine. Will our choices be inspired masterpieces… or the kind of decisions that make the internet start a petition? Expect surprise reveals, terrible casting arguments, and at least one moment where someone says, “Wait… you cast WHO as Indiana Jones?” So grab a drink and join us for an episode filled with nostalgia, movie debates, and enough fan-casting to make Reddit spontaneously combust. 🎬🍻

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SPEAKER_00 0:01

Greetings, humans. I come in peace and with podcasts. Welcome to Pod Nation Media, home of the KDNA podcast, the Undiscovered Entrepreneur, Monster Island Film Vault, Cthulhu Jack Presents, and Films and Fermentation. All streaming exclusively on the Facebook Nation Media.

SPEAKER_01 2:02

Last week we talked about films we wish we could see again for the first time. Tonight, we took some of those films we wish we could see again for the first time and recasted them for a modern audience. So we're calling tonight the recasting special one movie, one recast, unlimited bad decisions. We've already broken that rule because Mike and I have two movies. No, I have one movie. One movie, two casts. I have two movies, two casts.

SPEAKER_02 2:29

I have one movie, one cast.

SPEAKER_01 2:36

Again, this is Films of Fermentation, the movie and alcohol podcast, number one beer podcast on Good Pods, and the number one alcohol podcast on Good Pods. And we are still the number one TV and film review podcast in Madagascar. And number six uh overall TV and film Madagascar. And I said I was saving it for this segment because I wanted to tell you guys this. I thought it was so funny. I'm looking at that top 10 list, right? And there we are at like number six or seven, whatever it is. There's a couple of the other movie podcasts that I mentioned last week, and then I'm looking to see like what other podcasts are on this like list. And oh, this is like the overall list, not just the TV and film. This is like the overall podcast list. And I noticed a lot of like teaching you to speak English podcasts. And I'm I'm wondering if these uh people in Madagascar are like listening to these movie podcasts because they're all in English and they're using it to learn English. And I'm like, if they're listening to our podcast to learn English, that is gonna be some messed up English that they're speaking.

SPEAKER_02 3:39

They're gonna enjoy water.

SPEAKER_03 3:40

We got water, we got Philly, we got South Philly, we got Southern.

SPEAKER_01 3:45

And we got Southern. We got a we got a guy who taught English his entire life but barely speaks correct grammar. Uh you got Mike who throws random French accents on words that aren't French.

SPEAKER_03 3:58

They told you the accent.

SPEAKER_01 4:00

Yeah. So in the meantime, I'm Leo. Um Kevin. And I'm Mike. We're three friends like talk shit face. Wait, so this is I'm thinking this people are learning English, learning how to say we're three friends who like to talk shit about movies like getting shit faced. This week on Films and Fermentation, we're taking some of our favorite movies of all time and committing the ultimate act of cinematic chaos, recasting them with modern actors. Each of us secretly picked one, or in my case, two legendary films we wish we could experience again for the first time, then rebuilt the cast from scratch, like Hollywood executives with too much confidence and a dangerous amount of caffeine. Will our choices be inspired inspired masterpieces or the kind of decisions that make the internet start a petition? Expect surprise reveals, terrible casting arguments, and at least one moment where someone says, Wait, you cast who is Indiana Jones? Exactly. So grab a drink. Oh, wait, I learned something the other day that aside from um uh Tom Selleck being one of the choices for Indiana Jones before Harrison Ford got it, they also considered Tim Matheson, who was the star of Animal House. And I was like, I'd never heard that one before. That's a weird one. Anyway, grab a drink and join us for an episode filled with nostalgia, movie debates, and enough fan casting to make Reddit spontaneously combust. We can only I love this one off Reddit. Remind me to read you the latest uh Leo runs from cryptid comment back and forth that I've had recently.

SPEAKER_02 5:35

Oh god, I'm sure it's positive and enlightening.

SPEAKER_01 5:38

It was inspired. Don't forget to drop us an email at films of fermentation at gmail.com or visit linktree.com slash films of fermentation. Find all our social media podcast links, watch us on the Pod Nation Media Network on Roku, on YouTube, or on Rumble. Uh, we are an independent podcast, means we are listener supported, so please consider joining our Patreon for as little as a dollar a month to receive members-only content. I recently posted some new videos. I haven't done that in a while, but I I had some time to create a few extra ones, so I put some up uh recently. Uh I actually did one of us as hobbits going on a grand adventure. Uh you can also buy our merchandise at teespring.com or text us at 904-867-4466. What are we drinking tonight? Gentlemen. So, Kev, you went first last week, so let's get mic to go first this week.

SPEAKER_03 6:26

Alright, so I'm heading back to my um barrels again. Uh I'm still on uh what is it? Uh 17 uh which I'm on uh sample C is Hard Truth Sweet NASH rye barrel strength from Hard Truth Distilling Company in Nashville, Indiana. 120.2 proof five-year-old uh blend blend of four to six years. Uh 94% rye, six percent malt with a mahogany color and appearance.

SPEAKER_01 7:07

I got an email from uh uh somebody the other day saying that they really liked uh blind barrels and how much you know the work we did with them and they would like to interview us about it. And I emailed them back. You want to talk to Bobby Demars? He's the one who's actually in charge of blind barrels. We were just the guys that interviewed him. Yeah. You got your wires crossed there a little bit.

unknown 7:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:29

Uh Kev, what are you drinking?

SPEAKER_02 7:32

Uh I was um trying to theme, but I had too much on my plate today. So I have my summer variety pack. And um I have Sam Summers. You guys know I enjoy the Sam seasonals, even the same, you know, regular but uh originals, I should say. But I have uh the blueberry blueberry lager, blueberry lager, which is uh let's see, that is 5.5% alcohol by volume. Guys, if you hadn't noticed, it's a lager with uh blueberry juice from blueberry juice. Is the summer ale summer ale, baby, which is a citrus wheat beer, and it is 5.3% alcohol by volume. It is written in gold against yellow, so my eyes are failing. Uh, but it's a wheat ale brewed with lime, orange, and lemon peels. Uh grains of paradise and lemon puree added. So that's what you got for me tonight.

SPEAKER_01 8:38

Didn't they used to call the blueberry one blueberry hill or something like that? I think that was the weight. It used to be called blueberry hill. Now it's just like blueberry beer or something.

SPEAKER_02 8:46

Oh, it could just be a you know 250th anniversary. Let's change it up for the I like the blueberry one though, I don't mind it.

SPEAKER_01 8:54

Um I love the summer ale. I have to go out and get me some summer ale now nowadays out. And the porch rocker is very good too. And the porch rocker is very good as well. Uh, I decided to go a little hard tonight because uh I had a rough day as I was telling you guys in the pre-show, having to uh moderate. Really? You're half asleep now. You want to take a sip of whatever you got and fall as well. Oh, dude, I am I'm hurting. I'm tired. I had to moderate a number of kids' tug-a-warring today at our school field day event. And I haven't had this in a while, and I was like, you know what, tonight's a good night to break it out. So I'm drinking some Bombay Sapphire Gin. Uh London Dry Gin, 47% alcohol by volume. I mixed it with a little bit of Sprite, and I am chasing it with a prescription strength muscle relaxer. So I should be fairly good tonight.

SPEAKER_03 9:44

Oh, yeah. He's gonna be done before we even get through uh this week's film history.

SPEAKER_01 9:49

Yeah. You guys could take it over from now. We've done enough of these shows. All right, let's play a song real quick.

SPEAKER_03 10:18

1942, Yankee Doodle Dandy film based on the life of George M. Cohan, directed by Michael Kurtz, and starring James Cagney and Joan Leslie, premieres in New York City Academy Award Best Picture, 1943.

SPEAKER_01 10:36

Also Best Actor James Cagney. I'm a Yankee Doodle, Dandy. Yankee Doodle do or die. Uh I remember we talked about this one a little bit last week. Go ahead, Mike.

SPEAKER_03 10:49

Yeah, go ahead. Uh 1969, Midnight Cowboy, directed by John Slinginger and starring John Voigt and Dustin Hopman is released. Couldn't be awarded Best Picture 1970. Hey, I'm walking here. Yeah. I think I think they were one the last week were all the canes uh the can film festival ones.

SPEAKER_01 11:11

Yeah. Well that that just premiered this week, and I still haven't looked at the list of movies that they had at the Cannes yet.

SPEAKER_03 11:18

So last week we had them come up in the cans, and now this week they're actually coming out.

SPEAKER_01 11:22

Yes. Well, we also were like uh doubling up episodes last week because we recorded late one one way, one day.

SPEAKER_03 11:28

So yeah, okay. 1977, original Star Wars movie episode four. I do hope, directed by George Lugus and starring Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher, and Harrison Ford premieres.

SPEAKER_01 11:40

I heard a guy, uh Kev, talking on this podcast the other day about what he considers one of the best ways to watch Star Wars. And I remember you were talking about, like, you know, the order. He said uh he watched it this way, and he he recommends people try it out. He watched the two seasons of Andor, then watched Rogue One, then watched the original trilogy. And he said you get a whole new like perspective on Luke's journey because he's this simple farm boy who really didn't know what the struggles were of the of the people on the street level. So it's like you get the darkness of Andor, and then you really see him as the new hope because he is such a youthful, hopeful character. And I was like, that's an interesting way to think about it, you know.

SPEAKER_02 12:20

I can appreciate that. And yeah, I would definitely if if an adult wanted to bypass the um the animated features, I think that's probably the great way to go. But the animated features add depth. I still if I was doing it with uh if I'm doing it with my son, introducing him to it, I may start with the animated stuff first.

SPEAKER_01 12:41

Well, I think uh Andor might be a little bit above him at this point. Yeah, yeah. It might be like a later in life one. You're gonna start with starting with rebels first. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:50

How did democracy die, Daddy?

SPEAKER_01 12:53

With great applause, son.

SPEAKER_02 12:55

With great applause. And a UFC fight on the Wait House Long. Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 13:02

Next one, sorry.

SPEAKER_03 13:03

Uh 1979 horror film Alien, directed by Riley Scott and starring Segordi Weaver, is released.

SPEAKER_01 13:10

Yes, a movie we've talked about extensively.

SPEAKER_03 13:13

Yes. Here's another one. As well as the next one. This is Leo's favorite of the original trilogy. I don't mind Jedi. I love it. You love the little teddy bears. I do. 1983, Star Wars Episode 6, Return of the Jedi, directed by George Lucas, and starring Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher, and Harrison Ford is released.

SPEAKER_01 13:35

I love looking at like the list of people who either were offered or auditioned for the role of Han Solo. And it was like Christopher Walken, Kurt Russell. Uh I mean there was Kurt Russell would have fit. I think he would have been a good a good Han Solo, but like Christopher Walken's a weird one. Al Pacino is another one. Imagine Alpacino. Yeah, I love Bob Catus. I I got I got Al Pacino's Cats around the Ness is wrong, Borsix.

SPEAKER_02 14:07

I love you.

SPEAKER_03 14:15

Al Pacino's.

SPEAKER_04 14:16

Never tell me the odds.

SPEAKER_03 14:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:19

Princess Leia. She has a great ass. Next one, sir. Man, I'm already my voice is already hurt. That was not a good idea.

SPEAKER_03 14:32

1994, the Footstones live action movie based on the 1960s cartoon starring John Goodman as Fred, Rick Morandis as Barney, and Rosie O'Donnell as Betty Premier's.

SPEAKER_01 14:43

Not to mention the final film appearance of Elizabeth Taylor. As Fred's mother-in-law. Poor Elizabeth Taylor. Drag her into it and then she died. Anybody ever see the sequel to this? Uh Viva Rock Vegas.

SPEAKER_02 15:03

No.

SPEAKER_01 15:03

It's uh it stars uh Stephen Baldwin as as Barney.

SPEAKER_03 15:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:09

And uh uh King Robert Baratheon from Game of Thrones is Fred. I guess didn't Rick retire shortly after this. Yeah, pretty much, yeah. Uh next one, sir.

SPEAKER_03 15:22

1995 actor Christopher Reeves is paralyzed from the neck down after falling from his horse riding in a riding competition in Culpepper, Virginia.

SPEAKER_01 15:32

Yeah, not one I can make jokes about. This is was a dark day in Hollywood history. And I remember what happened thinking, man, not Superman, how could that happen? Yeah, so terrible. Uh and uh how fitting this is the last one tonight.

SPEAKER_03 15:50

2005 Dreamworks releases the computer animated film Madagascar, which we're number one, uh featuring the voices of Ben Stiller, Chris Rock, David Schwimmer, and Jada Peckett Smith.

SPEAKER_01 16:02

Yeah, we're number one because of the lemurs. Move it, move it.

SPEAKER_03 16:10

Did I ever tell you a story about that song? What's that? We were uh I think we were in the uh Orlando Airport, and uh Adrienne went to the bathroom before getting on the plane. And apparently she was next to this little girl in the stall, and she's sitting on the little girl single stalls just singing.

SPEAKER_01 16:28

I like to move it, move it. It was Boo from Monsters Inc.

SPEAKER_02 16:37

Kitty.

SPEAKER_04 16:38

Kitty.

SPEAKER_01 16:39

We do have some beer news tonight, so let's play our beer news a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 17:08

What happens here is is beyond that. It's dangerous. So and it's a waste of beer. Um two juveniles facing charges after tossed beer can shatters a George County deputy's windshield. Two ute. Two uts. Two juveniles are facing charges after a tossed beer can shattered the windshield of a deputy's patrol vehicle. George County Sheriff Mar uh Mitchell Mixon said deputies responded to a call regarding a reckless driver in the area of Sally Park Road on Wednesday. While assessing the area, responding deputy observed a car matching the description provided by the caller. As the deputies passed the vehicle, an object, later identified as a beer can, was reportedly thrown at the patrol vehicle. The car struck the uh them sorry, the can struck the deputy's vehicle and shattered the front windshield. Authorities promptly apprehended the individuals believed to be behind the damage. The two suspects were identified as minors with their identities being withheld due to their ages. Prior to the reckless driver call, deputies were had also received reports of a vehicle striking mailboxes in the area of nearby river road. Investigators believe both incidents are related. Following further investigation, the driver of the vehicle was charged with driving under the influence, malicious mischief, minor in a possession of alcohol, littering, petite larceny? Okay, and no proof of insurance. It's a little larceny. It's a little larceny. It's not like a low ski larceny.

SPEAKER_03 18:47

Nowhere in that article did it say if it was an empty or full beer can.

SPEAKER_02 18:52

True. I'm thinking with the damage that it did, it was probably a full one. A crime against beer. The passenger juvenile was charged with minor in possession of alcohol. This type of recklessness, reckless and dangerous behavior will not be tolerated, Mixon stated. Throwing objects at vehicles endangers our deputies and the public. We are committed to holding those responsible fully accountable. Additional charges are possible per law enforcement. So really, I'm guessing the uh parents of these two individuals should be looking at, you know, cr uh charges in addition to the kids. But that's just me. That's my opinion. And that's all the beer news we have.

SPEAKER_01 19:39

So that's what grinds my gears. Alrighty, that's all the news we have for that tonight. I have a few little quick movie updates tonight.

SPEAKER_05 19:48

Movie updates with Leo, movie updates with Leo, movie updates with Leo, movie updates with Leo.

SPEAKER_01 20:00

All right. I actually just added these earlier today because I didn't have anything coming into tonight. But uh, the final trailer for Steven Spielberg's new film, Disclosure Day, was released this week. It comes out on June 12th. I was already pretty hyped about it because it's Spielberg returning to you know uh alien and invasion films and alien visitors and stuff like from earlier in his career.

SPEAKER_02 20:22

Like he did with Indiana Drones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls.

SPEAKER_01 20:26

Yeah, yeah. I put that right up there with ET and Close Encounters. Um, but it looks pretty uh pretty good, man. I'm already pretty hyped about it. Uh it stars Emily Blunt, who who I I enjoy in films anyway. It has Colin Firth in it, who I think is a great actor. So I'm I'm looking forward to this one. And the trailer is pretty intriguing. Uh you kind of don't really get too much of the story given away, but you get a little bit of a sense of what it's about. You know, the right kind of trailer. Uh Mandalorian and Grogu. I love how it's auto-corrected to Mandalin. Mandalorian and Grogu came out this week. Thunderous matter.

SPEAKER_03 21:08

Well, I don't think they really, at least not on television, hyped it as much. It's like, it's here.

SPEAKER_01 21:15

I don't know. I feel like I've seen ads for it everywhere, especially online.

SPEAKER_03 21:19

Um ads for it, but it's like it's coming out. There's not a lot of what's gonna happen you see the Gordy Weaver, and you see Lando, and you see the kid, and that's about it.

SPEAKER_01 21:30

And you see the jack hood. Swallow the hut. So the reason I bring it up though is because uh even though it's made some money this weekend, because it did come out on Memorial Day weekend, it is underperforming, having made uh less in its debut weekend than Solo did. Uh which is saying something considering how much of a mess solo was in production. And I didn't hear anything about this being a mess in production. Uh but I also brought it up because I listened to three different podcasts. Podcast this week that all reviewed it, and they all had three different reviews. Oh, geez. Like one podcast was like, uh, it's for kids. If you go in there knowing it's for kids, you understand, you know, that it's a different kind of experience, it's not really made for this group, blah blah blah, whatever. Another another one was like, you know what? Wasn't the greatest thing ever, but it wasn't that bad. It's better than the uh Rise of Skywalker. Yeah, we didn't say much. But then the one I listened to today on my way home from work was like, This is the end of Star Wars as we know it. Oh, that's like I was like, dude, Jesus Christ, get some therapy, man. It helps, believe me. Like it's not that it's not that dire a situation.

SPEAKER_03 22:47

I did see something online, uh, especially for Kevin who would know that um that jacked uh ja um Jabba is actually stinky from the cartoon. Yeah, little baby Rhoda Hutt.

SPEAKER_01 23:01

Rhoda, I think his name, right? Rada or Rhoda the Hutt. Oh no, they call him Stinky. They called him Stinky, but it's I think it's Rada the Hutt. It's voiced by uh uh Jeremy Allen White from um The Bear and and uh what was that show uh with with William H. Macy on HBO for a while? Uh shameless shameless. He was on shameless, he was on he's on the bear. He was in the Bruce Springsteen movie came out earlier here. He voices the the swallow of the hood. And then the last one I have here are two Netflix things. One is I saw a trailer today for a movie coming out in late June on Netflix that looked really good, considering it's a Netflix film. Uh it stars Oscar Isaac, Jason Momoa, Gerard Butler, and John Malkovich. And it's called In the Hand of Dante, and it's about a guy who's obsessed with Dante's Inferno, the poem, and then finds out that the original handwritten manuscript might still exist. And he's he's hired by this like shady guy played by John Malkovich, big surprise, to try to track down this manuscript, and then along the way, he starts to figure out that he might be the reincarnation of Dante Alghieri. It looked really, really interesting. And I'm like, great cast, great actors, really like well shot according to the trailer. And I'm like, Oh, I'm looking forward to that one. I can't wait to see that. On the same day, Netflix announced that they are in pre-production on Adam Sandler's Grown Ups 3.

SPEAKER_02 24:33

His friends needed a paycheck.

SPEAKER_01 24:35

Yeah, his friends needed another vacation that they use a film as an excuse for. And I was like, I saw this amazing trailer for this like art house-looking film on Netflix, and then you get grown-ups three on the same day. Uh, I like the first grown-ups. I actually thought it was kind of funny. The second one was totally unnecessary. But I imagine the third one is not gonna be any better. So Mike getting must-tried crafts tonight for us.

SPEAKER_03 25:03

I get do, I do, I do. Rogue Alex and Spirits, Shakespeare Stout.

SPEAKER_01 25:08

You have me at Shakespeare. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 25:10

More recently labeled Shakespeare Oatmeal Stout is one of the classic American craft stouts. First brewed in 1988 in Ashland, Oregon. It was inspired by the nearby Oregon Shakespeare Festival and became one of the Rogue's signature beers. The beer is an oatmeal stout known for balancing rich roast malt flavors with a surprisingly assertive hop bitterness. It pours nearly black with a creamy tan head and delivers flavors of dark chocolate, espresso, and roasted coffee, toasted oats, light caramel and cocoa, uh, a dry and bitter finish with from Cascade Hops. Most versions sit around 5.8 to 6.1 ABV with roughly 60 to 69 IBUs, making it more bitter and robust than many sweeter oatmeal stouts. What made Shakespeare stout stand out in the 1990s? Kraft Beer Boom was its boldness. While many oatmeal stouts leaned soft and creamy, the grogue pushed a more aggressive American interpretation with stronger roast and hot character. It earned major acclaim, including top score at the 1994 World Beer Championships and recognition as one of the best stouts in the world by several beer publications.

SPEAKER_01 26:40

I feel like I've heard of Roguezale before. I don't know. I don't like I just looked it up on Untapped, and I don't think I've ever had it, but I feel like I've heard of it before. Maybe you might have talked about it before or something. I don't know. Possibly.

unknown 26:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:55

Oh, I found it. I found the exchange I was telling you guys about on YouTube earlier. I thought this was a little fun thing to read. So uh everybody listening out there, I have a little side project I do, a little web series called Leo Runs from Cryptids, which are AI produced videos of me running away from mythological creatures.

SPEAKER_02 27:11

Wait, that's not really you?

SPEAKER_01 27:13

No, it's not really me.

SPEAKER_03 27:14

I have a question about that man. I actually think you went to Mars still.

SPEAKER_01 27:19

Her friend is, yeah. Okay. Yeah. So I did a video recently where I was running from a creature called a toil, which is like a little goblin creature who steals my wallet. Okay. And this is the comment I got on YouTube for it. AI trash, which is the common comment I get from most people. And I wrote back to him, I know, right? Human humanity finally unlocked artificial intelligence and immediately used it to make a middle-aged man yell at imaginary creatures. This is what progress looks like. And he messaged me back, no, this is what trash looks like because it's AI trash. And then I was I messaged him back with you were absent today that taught sarcasm, huh? I assure you, the imaginary goblin theft footage was not intended as documentary, and I've not heard back from him since. God bless. I love this. Oh, it's sarcastic. Oh, sarcasm. I should start posting those videos on Reddit and see what the fuck happens. We're gonna take a quick break and we'll be back with our main segment. Tonight we are recasting movies that we wish we could watch again for the first time. We'll be right back. Thank you for hanging with us in that quick little break. Tonight's main segment. We talked last week about movies we wish we could see again for the first time, and we decided to take some of those films and recast them tonight for a modern audience. We thought that would be kind of fun because we haven't done a recast in a while. So uh this would be interesting. So each of us chose a movie. We don't know what movie we chose from our lists, and uh in Mike's case, he chose one film and did a human cast and a Muppet cast. I chose two films and did a human cast for one, a Muppet cast for the other. And Kevin was the only one who followed the rules from last week.

SPEAKER_02 29:11

So how about we do you see? I am good at following the rules.

SPEAKER_01 29:16

I am yes, you want it. I'm the one who never follows the rules, and I'm the one who mixed them. I was like, let's pick a movie, and then I'm like, I can't decide, I'm gonna do two. So Mike, why don't we do your first uh one of your recasts now? We'll do like uh let's do your human one first, and then I'll I'll do one of mine, and then we'll go to Kev and then we'll go back to you. So we'll kind of work our way around.

SPEAKER_03 29:39

All right, so I did Raiders, I did Raiders and Lost.

SPEAKER_01 29:43

Raiders. I'm interested in this now.

SPEAKER_03 29:46

So I'm gonna start off uh at indie.

SPEAKER_01 29:49

Um so you're doing the human cast first, right?

SPEAKER_03 29:51

Human cast first.

SPEAKER_01 29:52

All right, I'm curious of who your indie is.

SPEAKER_03 29:55

I am picking Chris Pine. Really? You know what? Yeah, yeah. Charismatic, funny, what he needs to be. He can be believable as uh an archaeologist.

SPEAKER_01 30:09

I'm thinking like if you take his performance in the Dungeons and Dragons movie, it kind of fits.

SPEAKER_03 30:14

You take his take his Indiana Jones, uh his his uh Dungeons and Dragons and mix it with his Kirk.

SPEAKER_01 30:21

Yeah, exactly. He's already been recast as one legendary character, so it kind of makes sense. Yeah, that's a good one. I really like that one, Chris Pine. I thought at first you might have said like um Chris Pratt, because I know he often gets like the uh the the comparison, but I I don't like him in that role.

SPEAKER_02 30:41

No, and that's where my mind went first, too. I was like, Chris Pratt, really the guy from the Parks and Rack. And I was like, Oh, wait, no, he's head pine. Chris Pine one, I really like the Chris Pine one.

SPEAKER_01 30:52

Uh uh so who are you doing next then? I'm doing uh Marion Raven. I'm really curious about this one because Karen Allen is a fucking legend.

SPEAKER_03 31:01

Yeah, so I'm gonna get a word her with a modern legend of Emily Blunt. I will take that. Yes, that works.

SPEAKER_02 31:10

It works. I'm trying to think if they had any previous chem uh like exposure or or projects together that they would have worked together. Like just off the top of my head, and nothing's coming to my head.

SPEAKER_01 31:23

Yeah, I don't I don't have anything like that's popping out right away, so that would be a cool cool. I love anime blonde, so I'm good with that.

SPEAKER_03 31:30

Uh I'm going with Dr. Rene Belloch. Who was originally Paul played by Paul Freeman, and I'm picking Mads Mickelson.

SPEAKER_01 31:43

That is inspired casting. I was thinking uh Christoph Wall's too. Um, but Mads is good because Mad Mads is um he's he's from Norway, I want to say, and Balak was like supposed to be like French or something, but he had an English accent. So at least Mads Mickelson has an accent a little closer.

SPEAKER_02 32:05

And Mads has already been in an Indiana Jones movie. That's right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:09

Wasn't he in uh the alien one?

SPEAKER_02 32:11

He was no, he was in the uh Dial Destiny.

SPEAKER_01 32:15

Mads Mickelson's in everything.

SPEAKER_03 32:17

Yeah, he is. He's a funny he's a Bond villain.

SPEAKER_01 32:21

Yeah, you know what's funny is like in America, in America, he does a lot of like um popular films. So he does the Indiana Jones film, he does uh Doctor Strange, he does uh the Bond films, so he's in these like popular franchise films, and then in his his native country, he does like some of the most spectacular like art house films.

SPEAKER_02 32:43

So he does the American food films to pay the bills because it's trash, but it makes money, and then he does money, and then in his film, his country, he does these like amazing movies that are like beautifully acted, and like he's he's like the most popular actor in his own country, so it's like yeah, it's funny.

SPEAKER_01 33:00

All right, next next one, Mike.

SPEAKER_03 33:01

Uh I went with Salah next with his uh John Ray. I went with Ahmed Dajili. Dj A L I L I. He's a he's more of a comedian. Um he's funny, larger than life type of comedian. So kind of fits the role. Who is he in?

SPEAKER_01 33:30

Ahmed. Ahmed.

SPEAKER_03 33:34

Ahmed, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 33:35

Uh he the only real role that I knew him from was he was in Gladiator for the small part. You may just need to look him up on IMDb.

SPEAKER_01 33:46

Yeah, I thought I I don't know who this is.

SPEAKER_03 33:48

That's that's one of the ones I had I uh chat help me. Uh Ahmed.

SPEAKER_01 33:55

I'm gonna look it up while you do your next one.

SPEAKER_03 33:57

Uh next I went with uh Major Taunt, which is you know the creepy guy, which was uh Ronald Lacey. I'm going with Christoph Waltz. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 34:09

Yeah, that felt like Waltz had to be in there somewhere, you know. He kind of fits the error.

SPEAKER_02 34:16

Yeah, he gets his face melted off, right? Am I correct in assuming he gets his face melted off?

SPEAKER_03 34:21

He's the one, he's the one that got the the the the with the R on his hand.

SPEAKER_02 34:25

Yeah, he had the really cool hanger.

SPEAKER_01 34:26

Yes, the cross. Yeah, that's uh it's one of my favorite scenes where it looks like he's about to like whip the shit out of her and he turns it into a fucking hanger.

SPEAKER_02 34:35

I want a hanger like that, just so I can take it places, you know.

SPEAKER_01 34:38

Yeah, that's so funny. I think him and Mads could actually be kind of flipped into roles too, and they work either way. Yeah, they can work for both characters. Yeah, I thought that too. But I do think they're good in the way you have them.

SPEAKER_03 34:52

So uh next I went with Marcus Brody, who was Denholm Elliott prior. I went with Hugh Bonneville. Okay, he's from uh Darlington Albee or something like that.

SPEAKER_01 35:05

Yeah, yeah, I kind of know who he is a little bit. Oh, I found this guy, uh Ahmed De Jali. He's um he was in the mummy as well.

SPEAKER_03 35:16

Was that the guy that was playing the one that was he was the warden in the mummy, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:22

I know this guy's face, he's like a very popular like character, character actor, yeah. Which is kind of what John Reese Davies is, but a little bit more John Reese Davies was a little bit more famous, but yeah, but it works, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:34

All right, I'm sorry, go ahead. Uh then I went with Dietrich, uh Colonel Dietrich, which was Wolf Keller prior. I went with Daniel Bruhl.

SPEAKER_01 35:45

Daniel Bruhl. Yeah, another good German actor.

SPEAKER_03 35:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:49

Daniel Bruhl would be good in um uh the Belloc role as well, I think. You got a lot of actors who are like really good in villain roles who could just be like spun around in any of those roles and they work, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:01

But I think he also plays a more of a uh an intelligent, um, straight to the point guy. Uh I mean I mean you could really get Christoph Waltz could have done that too. Um, my last casting was uh Stapio, uh the Alfred Alfred Molino character.

SPEAKER_01 36:26

Oh, the guy that's like his assistant at the beginning. It was Alfred Marie Molina's first role, too.

SPEAKER_03 36:31

So uh this is more my cameo pick for this uh movie. I went with Pedro Pascal.

SPEAKER_01 36:39

He's in everything anyway. Why not? Kill him off in the first five minutes. Yeah, he did five minutes of work for the Grogu movie because it's just his voice.

SPEAKER_03 36:47

I mean, yeah, but you know, after seeing what he did with you know Game of Thrones, this would be a good character for him, you know, yeah as a uh as a uh cameo.

SPEAKER_01 36:56

No time for love, Dr.

SPEAKER_03 36:57

Jones. Well, he didn't say that part.

SPEAKER_01 37:02

Um yeah, I think uh it's that's pretty strong casting.

SPEAKER_03 37:07

Uh I actually uh with with uh chat for a director for this movie. Okay, that's interesting. Uh and chat um thought that James Mangold would be a good director for this movie.

SPEAKER_01 37:23

James Mangold did um the dial of destiny, so he's in the Indiana Jones universe in a way. So right.

SPEAKER_03 37:33

He's strong with practical action and old school adventure pacing.

SPEAKER_01 37:37

He's done a few a few venture movies.

SPEAKER_06 37:40

Yeah, all right.

SPEAKER_01 37:41

I'll go next then. Should I do my human cast first or my Muppet case? Do you guys choose? Do human. Do the human, say the Muppets for the end. The Muppets are more fun anyway. So for my human casting, I decided to recast Reservoir Dogs. Okay. Um, it was between this and another one, but I was like, I'm gonna go with Reservoir Dogs, my human cast. And uh I had a little fun with this one because I got to like, you know, really like stretch it here. I didn't um do my usual thing, like I didn't pick the usual actors I always pick. I didn't try to fit in the actors I always try to fit in. Uh I didn't even really worry about like um uh diversity casting like I try to do sometimes with mine. I just kind of picked the actors that I thought would play a role well. So the main character, Mr. White, who was played by Harvey Kaitel in the original film, I went with Oscar Isaac.

SPEAKER_03 38:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 38:34

Somebody who he's kind of been pigeonholed a little bit with like the Star Wars and Moon Knight and like the X-Men films and all these big budget movies he's been in. But he actually is a really good actor. If you see things like uh X Machina or Inside Llewellyn Davis or some like his early films, like he's a really, really good actor, and he's in that movie I'm I was talking about earlier that's coming out uh later this month called In the Hand of Uh Dante. I like him a lot. I think he's a good actor, and I think it'd be uh an interesting to see him in that main character role. Mr. Orange, who is played by Tim Roth in the original film. I went with Austin Butler. Uh they're in the same age range, and uh he kind of has that Tim Roth energy to me a little bit. Uh plus he spends most of the movie laying on the floor in a bloody pool anyway. So all right, this was my favorite one. Mr. Blonde, played by Michael Madsen in the original film, the psychotic, you know, shoot first, ask questions afterwards, guys.

SPEAKER_02 39:40

Take an ear if you'd like.

SPEAKER_01 39:41

Yeah, cuts the cops' ear off. Uh, so Mike Madsen in the original film, I went with John Bernthal, the Punisher himself. I figured he can he can play a psycho. That's a real psycho character. For Mr. Brown, who was played by Quentin Tarantino himself in the original film, director, as well as playing a small role. I needed somebody with that same sort of manic energy who can tell really odd stories, like the like a virgin story he tells at the beginning of the film. So I went with uh good old McLovin, Christopher Mince Plossy. He has a little bit of Quentin energy, and he's he's he's the same age Quentin would have been at the time of filming this too. So Mr. Pink played by Steve Busemi in the original film. I wanted somebody else who has sort of like that that like rat face kind of look a little bit, and we've already talked about him because he plays Swallow the Hutt in the Grogu film. So I went with uh Jeremy Allen White for my Mr. Pink. All right, yeah. This is uh this was when I really like Joe Cabot, who is the leader of the group, the uh the mob boss in the film played by uh legendary 40s actor Lawrence Tierney. Uh, I decided to recast Harvey Keitel in that role. So bring back somebody from the original film, but make him the older boss character this time around. That works. Yes, and then the last one I got is nice guy Eddie, who was played by uh Chris Penn in the original film. He was Joe Cabot's son, he was like the big guy in like the tracksuit who was always like yelling at everybody. And I went with Jonah Hill. Uh same built, some kind of same kind of energy.

SPEAKER_03 41:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:29

So Kevin, you're smiling.

SPEAKER_02 41:31

You got something to say, or yes, I'm I'm forgetting that I got my microphone off. Many of these were in this is the end, right?

SPEAKER_01 41:45

Um just Jonah Hill and Christopher Mince Plasi. Okay. We're in this in the end. Harvey Kaitel was in the original uh Reservoir Dogs. The rest of them are all, you know, actors that I kind of pulled out because I thought they just yeah, I would like to see them in roles like this. John Burnshall is Mr. Blonde's my favorite one. Like I I would love to see that. Yeah. Alright, so Kev, that brings it to you now. What film did you choose, sir?

SPEAKER_02 42:11

Oh guys. Oh, my wife just delivered this to me. I'm gonna let you guess as to what my film might be. Okay. Um, it's got uh seven up in it and uh Seagrim 7.

SPEAKER_01 42:24

Seagrim, so it's a seven and seven. I'm trying to remember what your list was from last week.

SPEAKER_02 42:31

I'm doing the movie seven.

SPEAKER_01 42:33

Oh, there you go. All right, seven and seven is De Niro's drinking Goodfellas, and I was like, nobody had goodfellas on their list. Although that is a movie I would love to see again for the first time. Yes, yes, but seven, that's a cool one, man.

SPEAKER_02 42:46

I yeah, that's really interesting. Oh, you guys are gonna love it because it's also incredibly short. Yeah, it's only like four characters, five if you really push it, you know. Um I didn't do Lord of the Rings, we'll be here all night. Uh so I'm going to start with Somerset. And for Somerset, I chose Mahershala Ali. Yeah, from Greenburgh. Yeah, yeah. Um you know, from Greenbrook and the way he was just composed, and um uh Moonlight, right? Two-time Oscar winner, yeah. I thought he play he would play a good one. And then when you had mentioned Austin Butler and yours, I smiled because he is my Mills. Yeah, he's got that right. Um so he's married to Tracy, played by Carrie Mulligan from Excuse me. Um yeah, that's uh uh The Great Catsby. Uh she's in the new season of Beef. She's in what was That one promising Young Woman was the other film. Promising Young Woman, that was a great movie, too. Yeah. So I like it.

SPEAKER_01 44:06

She's a good comparison because it was uh Gwyneth Paltrow in the original film. So it's kind of like uh she is kind of like a modern day Gwenneth Paltrow, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:16

Um, the one that both of you are probably waiting for playing John Doe is Jamie Campbell Bauer. Ooh, isn't that good? Yeah, I like that. I like that. I like that one a lot.

SPEAKER_01 44:33

Yeah. Yeah. Because you need somebody who's creepy, yeah, but intelligent and like and even mannered.

SPEAKER_07 44:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:43

The only time I I was thinking about this, the only time Kevin Spacey cracks in that film is when he finds out that Mills didn't know that his wife was pregnant. And then he's like, he gets glee out of it, and he's like, he eats it. No. And it's like the only time he cracks in the film. So like I would like to see that because that that actor can do that sort of thing.

SPEAKER_02 45:03

Yeah, but he can also be, you know, um um not noticed, you know. He can he can play off the everyman, so yeah, yeah. Um I want to watch I would watch seven now and think about these actors while I do have two others because Mike could make mentioned directors, and I was thinking if I mean I love David Fincher and he could do this again for all I care. Um, but if I if I was going to pick uh a second director or another director, I think Robert Eckers.

SPEAKER_01 45:37

Ooh, yeah, the lighthouse.

SPEAKER_02 45:39

You know, Lighthouse, the witch.

SPEAKER_01 45:41

Um I was thinking um Zach Krager, who did weapons as well, would probably be a really good one.

SPEAKER_02 45:49

Um the uh character or the actor who was Lust, the one that had the you know, deadly strap on to him. I would put that as Jim Parsons. Oh my god, that's so weird.

SPEAKER_01 46:02

That'd be so weird to have Sheldon talk about fucking somebody who does with a giant knife. Um the only other actor I was thinking of was Arlie Ermie as the captain. Oh yeah, that would be a cool one, but that's like a small role, and you can you can always get like some sort of like uh older like character actor in there. I would get the actor who played Krieger in the office. Um I was trying to think. Oh, Fincher has uh Ventures directing uh so Brad Pitt is doing a spin-off to Once Upon a Time in America or Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Uh his character that he won the Oscar for, Cliff Booth, is getting a spin-off called The Adventures of Cliff Booth. And it's not directed by Tarantino, it's being directed by David Fincher. And I'm like, this is all kinds of interesting. Like, I don't know if it's gonna work, but I am kind of intrigued because it's Brad Bitt and Fincher back together again.

SPEAKER_02 47:01

And Robert Eggers is doing a werewolf movie, which yes, it should be pretty good.

SPEAKER_01 47:07

Yeah, I like Robert Eggers a lot. Um, let's for the fun of it, let's try to do a Muppet recast of seven real quick, like off the top of our heads here. Like it all will all contribute.

SPEAKER_03 47:19

Well, does that mean like Piggy's heads in the back?

SPEAKER_01 47:24

Yes, I mean Piggy's automatically the Gwen Baldro character.

SPEAKER_03 47:28

Oh, yeah. It can always be uh Janet. Yeah, no, it's Piggy.

SPEAKER_02 47:35

I think Rolf the dog would have to be Somerset.

SPEAKER_01 47:39

That's a good one. I was trying to think that was the one I was like struggling with because I mean Mills is obviously gonna be probably Kermit, or you make Kermit like the captain, like the Arly Ermy character, and you have like Donzo as Mills because he's like goofy and stupid and all that. Or uh Scooter. Scooter's a good Mills, too. I like the Ralph the Dog one of Somerset. That's a good one. That'd be fucking bizarre to see the Muppets 27.

SPEAKER_02 48:04

Who's the one with the explosions? What's the Muppet who does all the dynamite stuff?

SPEAKER_01 48:08

That's um Lou Zealand.

SPEAKER_02 48:12

He's John Doe.

SPEAKER_03 48:13

No, no, no, no. If you want John Doe, who's the everyman, you won't see it coming. It has to be Scooter.

SPEAKER_01 48:20

Yeah, Scooter is John Doe, is really funny. That's really funny. Or Robin. Or no, Walter, the one from the Muppet movie. No funny, man.

SPEAKER_03 48:34

Bean bunny.

SPEAKER_01 48:35

Bean bunny. Yeah, it's somebody unassuming. No. But I like the Ralph the Dog is Somerset one. That's the one. Who the fuck would be Somerset? Like, that's a weird one, but Ralph the Dog's like the closest they got to a black actor in the Muppets.

SPEAKER_02 48:48

When you look at the Muppet movie, the 1978 version, uh, or the 1978 Muppet movie, um, he's counseling uh Kermit, you know, after Piggy steps out, you know, and gets kidnapped. So I was like, yeah, that that kind of fits, you know. Who would be who would be the lust guy?

SPEAKER_01 49:09

That would be a human actor, it would be the lust guy. He already was in a Muppet movie, he played Walter's human component. My Muppet. So, Mike, we're back to you to do your Muppet uh indie recast.

SPEAKER_03 49:29

All right, so I'm gonna start with my one human actor in this one first, and it's gonna be uh Colonel Dietrich with uh Daniel Brolstill, because I think he can play it still serious with all the Muppets around him.

SPEAKER_01 49:41

He's gonna play it like uh like Michael Cain did in the Christmas uh Caroline. I think he can do it too.

SPEAKER_03 49:49

So of course Indy's gonna be Kermit. Of course, Marion's gonna be Piggy, of course. Sala, Fozzie, Fozzie Bear. Bellock is Gonzo. Um Brody is Scooter. That's a good one. Um Major Taunt. This one is a little weird though, but it kind of fits. Deadly. I went with Sam Eagle because he's so serious in both movies, in the movie.

SPEAKER_01 50:22

It's just weird because that's Sam Eagle's playing a Nazi. True, but I I was thinking like Deadly just because he's already like the villain character. Yeah, Deadly could work there too.

SPEAKER_03 50:33

Um and I think the uh the guy that the guy that betrays Indy at the beginning is Pepe the Prawn, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:44

That's the only one I had in my head before you even started saying anything. Was that the first guy's gonna be Pepe? Gimme the idol.

SPEAKER_02 50:55

Throw me the idol, okay?

SPEAKER_01 50:57

Throw me the idol. Oh man, that was pretty good. That's pretty funny. All right, so my my last movie is also a Muppet cast, but instead of doing Reservoir Dogs, I picked a completely different movie. Uh, because this one I really wanted to do a Muppet cast for. So I did a Muppet cast for the usual suspects.

SPEAKER_03 51:16

Oh god.

SPEAKER_01 51:18

Uh Keaton, the Gabriel Byrne character, the main character is of course Kermit. Yes, he's gotta be the main character. Uh, the verbal kent slash Kaiser Sose character played by Kevin Spacey is Scooter. Again, somebody unassuming. I would love to see like Scooter walking with the limp, and then at the end of the movie starts walking straight. Uh, this is the one that I was so excited about. I'm like, this is fucking genius casting. If we're gonna do a Muppets usual suspects, Fenster, the Benicio del Toro character that's always mumbling and nobody can understand what he says. The Swedish chef.

SPEAKER_02 52:04

In English, please.

SPEAKER_01 52:05

In English, we're perfect. Uh Hockney, who's played by Kevin Pollock in the original film, which is a very like sarcastic character. That's my Pepe. Oh yeah. Uh McManus, who is the Stephen Baldwin character, who's uh like kind of unhinged and a little psychotic, so that's Gonzo. Uh Edie, played by Susie Amos in the film, that's uh Keaton's girlfriend, is obviously Miss Piggy. Right. Uh Kobayashi, played by Pete Postlefwaite in the film, who is Kaiser Sose's right-hand man, is Uncle Deadly. David Kuyan, who is the detective that's interrogating uh verbal throughout the film, played by Chaz Palmentary. That's Sam Eagle. Gotta have him in the law in the lull position.

SPEAKER_07 52:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 52:54

And then the last one is a minor character, Jeff Rabin, who's played by Dan Hideya, who is Chaz Palmo de Harry's like partner in the film. Uh, I had to I put Fozzie in that because I just had to have Fozzie in the film.

SPEAKER_03 53:04

Yeah, yeah, Fozzie in it, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 53:06

He's the one like at the end, they're looking at the desk and he's like, Your desk is such a mess. And he's like, You have to step back and take a look at it. There's there's a bigger picture at hand here. Uh so that was my kid. But I love my sweetest chef as Fenster. He's like looking genius. Perfect. So happy with that one. Uh Mike, do you have any beer trivia for us this evening?

SPEAKER_03 53:28

I do. Higher intoxication intoxication rates. Mixing alcohol with diet sodas result in a higher breath alcohol concentration than mixing with full sugar equivalents. Because the body does not recognize aspartame as sugar, it processes the beverage faster, allowing the alcohol to absorb more quickly.

SPEAKER_01 53:53

Whew, note to self. Taking diets right next time I have my gin and next time I have my gin and prescription strength muscle relax. And we have a cinema quote of the week as well.

SPEAKER_02 54:11

Always be a first-rate version of yourself instead of a second rate version of somebody else. Judy Garland.

SPEAKER_01 54:18

Yes, she said that after doing blackface in uh uh how are our drinks this I know I'm feeling great because I did gin and muscle relaxers, so I'm feeling pretty good. Bombay sapphire and Mobik.

SPEAKER_03 54:35

Uh actually, for as high as I proof this is, and being a rye, it's actually pretty smooth.

SPEAKER_01 54:43

I was gonna say I didn't hear you like coughing or saying anything about it throughout the night, so I figured you must have been uh enjoying it. Which one was that one called, Mike?

SPEAKER_03 54:52

Uh it's called it does have a little burn to it, but it's uh hard truth sweet mash rye, barrel strength.

SPEAKER_01 55:01

I like that the name hard truth. It's a cool name for a whiskey. And Kev, of course, the Sam Adams Summer pack.

SPEAKER_02 55:07

Sam Adams Summer, the uh blueberry lager. The seven and seven was very good and special shout out to my wife. Thank you for uh delivery. I I don't get alcohol delivered too often, but um she came through with my seven and seven for seven.

SPEAKER_01 55:25

I uh I was so our field day was supposed to be last week and it got postponed because of the rain, and we were off on Friday. Uh I have to actually go in tomorrow. So this is kind of sucks. All right. All right. So thank you for joining us tonight for episode 240, recasting films we wish we could see again for the first time. Uh, we hope you enjoyed listening to the podcast as much as we enjoyed recording it for you. Remember, you can email us at films of fermentation at gmail.com or visit linktree.com slash films and fermentation to find all of our social media podcast links, watch us on YouTube, on Rumble, or on the Pod Nation Media Network exclusively on Roku. You can text us at 904-867-4466. And uh, I'd appreciate it if you go out there and check out my little web series Leo Runs from Cryptids on TikTok and YouTube. It's uh a lot of fun and very enjoyable. Uh, don't forget to stop by the cross-searching pick on informatic next time around for episode 241. We had done way back when the entire career of John Williams, and since we had just talked about Star Wars a lot in uh recent episodes, we decided that uh next week we're going to do a special John Williams episode where we are each going to give our rankings of the top five John Williams scores. Uh, it should be fun, should be a lot of like arguments at that episode, so it should be pretty interesting. So, thank you for joining us again tonight. Uh, especially our friends and fans over there in Madagascar.

SPEAKER_02 56:58

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SPEAKER_01 57:02

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