One Hell Of A Life Outdoor Podcast
The One Hell Of A Life Outdoor Podcast hosted by father-son duo Tony Vogel and Tristan Vogel, Owners of Zero Duck:30 and Zero Buck:30 . Our passion lies in bringing every hunter the REALITY of what it REALLY takes to hunt their target animal while equipping them with the knowledge to be a successful hunter and promoting the lost "old school values" that laid the foundation for the sport we love so much today.
One Hell Of A Life Outdoor Podcast
DUX EXPO | LIVE FROM THE FROGGTOGGS BOOTH WITH DON ESPEY | What happens when comfort meets affordability in the marsh?
Raise my chair up.
Speaker 2:What's going on, guys? Tristan and Tony and Donnie live from the Frog Talks booth. Let's go At Ducks 2025. Man, what's going?
Speaker 1:on Donnie. We are in Memphis, tennessee, and the doors were packed. Lots of people outside, so happy to get this episode in before we get swamped, because I think it's going to be a really big show. We're looking forward to it.
Speaker 2:That's right.
Speaker 1:Man, and you've been on quite a run. Well, frog talks has been quite on.
Speaker 2:Uh run. You know you had icast what a week and a half ago.
Speaker 1:Uh, and then my third trade show in three weeks so well, I guess you guys had the uh booth set up down then, yeah, yeah, the our booth. At icast we had four 20 by 20s and that the last show we had a 20 by 40 no 2020, and then here we have two 10x20s.
Speaker 1:Wow so we have a lot of SKUs as most people aren't really exactly aware of but footwear, tackle boxes. We got our own version, we got some Javas, we got everything you need. So we need a lot more space, and we need a lot more space than what we got right now, that's for sure.
Speaker 2:Well, y'all are obviously on the right track and, yeah, the way it's set up here. Hopefully, if y'all are listening to this, you'll come by Saturday or Sunday. But the way they got it set up is it's like both sides of the row they have a booth, essentially.
Speaker 4:And they got stuff that you can walk out of here with right now. Yeah, yeah, and guess what? Come by and we'll talk to you. We'll make it happen. It's a good deal.
Speaker 1:Definitely a lot of stuff. We got some backpacks, duffel bags, shoes, bino harnesses, stuff. A lot of people don't know. We have waiters jackets, all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 4:Dude. I take offense to people, like when I step up in my Java shoes and they walk up with their hey dudes, I'm like no dude, no, no, no, no. I really do enjoy my shoes, dude. I get fierce about it, kind of.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I haven't got into our deck boots yet, but the deck boots are like. I think one shoe that people need to be made aware of is how comfortable and stylish they look compared to other deck boots.
Speaker 2:But yeah, Absolutely, I'm rocking. The shame on me for not knowing the exact name of the boots that I have on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the ridge buster ankle. We got those for sale in here dude, I love these boots, like they're great, they're the great, from your truck to your waiter's shoe yes like morning hunts. They're perfect for that.
Speaker 2:They're also great for, like, if you just leave them, uh, you know, in your garage or whatever and you got to go out in the yard yeah and actually my like older pair I use for mowing shoes.
Speaker 4:They're perfect yeah, yeah, no, no, those things like every time we step into a hunting camp everybody says where'd you get those boots?
Speaker 4:yeah yeah, and I tell you what's great about them. We did a product review. You can go check it out on on our youtube on it. But you know there's a little bit of technology built into this thing. You know there's sweat resistance built into the shoe with that special fabric. You guys got Even as simple as a little piece on the back to help you pull your boot off. You take one foot, take the other one, slip that thing off and the pulls. It's a. It's a great boot, man. It's something we wear Like. Honestly, we don't get into other boots unless we have to.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:Honestly, I mean like from snow goose hunting, to you name it. The other big thing we have is the antimicrobial stuff so your feet don't stink like. If you don't have that, like, I have to throw my pairs of shoes out once a year that we don't have that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I didn't know that. Yeah, that's nice.
Speaker 4:I just thought that maybe it was because I was washing my feet better no, no, we'll take care of your smelly feet, don't worry about it. Dude, what a great advertisement. Frog talks, frog them talks and save your smelly feet. Why do you?
Speaker 2:think the logo is like a frog foot. Yeah, yeah. No, that's great man, that's right. Well, this is really only our second Waterfowl show Awesome. I mean, I don't really know kind of what to expect. The only frame of reference was Delta a year and a half ago. And first of all, thank you very much.
Speaker 4:I've been on the planet a little bit, so I've been around a couple of them. But yeah, no as a group for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and first of all, thank you, donnie, and thank you Frog Talks, for allowing us to do this, absolutely, oh yeah, happy to have you guys here.
Speaker 4:Biggest thanks. You know, I mean you, you know all the way it's such a family business, yeah, you know. But, and you guys have had, you know, just great support for us. You know, and uh, and I mean we just couldn't be more thankful. You guys are part of our success. You know, we live and breathe frog dogs, everything we do. My wife's like give me some more frog dogs. I'll talk to donnie about it. Yeah, and she's like well, katie's got some frog dogs. How come I don't have any frog?
Speaker 2:togs. Well, Mom, you got to go duck hunting and be in the video and guess what she said?
Speaker 4:she might go duck hunting this year.
Speaker 1:My fiance's order her first order hasn't made it to our house either, so I get a lot of that too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're like Donnie, that stuff looks cool. Man, I need some.
Speaker 4:No, but I think the big a lot of y'all need to understand about frog dogs is things are changing, man. I mean. Things are changing in such a fast pace for y'all, I mean, and you're a big part of that, Donnie.
Speaker 1:Thank you, yeah, I appreciate that.
Speaker 4:I mean you are man and I mean you know from speaking to somebody that is just worn tour gear for 40 years of my life. I started life. I started with frog dogs because it was a good product as a consumer. Yeah, you know, and it makes it so easy for us whenever we're talking about you guys's products because we've used it, I mean we beat the crap out of this there's no bs when you're talking about it, no, no, it's just straight. Here's how I use it.
Speaker 1:Here's how it succeeds, and it never fails that's right. That's right and that's, I think, the one thing of why we have had some success in my short time being here, is the groundwork has already been laid yeah, through their years of product design, reliability. Everything they had like a good company needs is already there. Now they just need the spotlight. That's right, and that's all we need to provide is the spotlight and the best thing for all of us average hunters, it's affordable.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that is the great thing. I mean I don't know how you guys pull off that magic. I really don't, because some of these things, whenever I look at them, I'm like no way, that costs way more than what I, than what I see, the the retail price. I'm like I don't know how they do it, but uh, that's affordable yeah, you know what I mean and that's really you know, for the average guy or gal.
Speaker 4:You know, especially if you're new into hunting, you know we've all been there right and we got to have something to get us in, get us going. You know what I mean. So what's a good starter wader and that's the other thing I'll say about y'all's waders is you got such a good line of, hey, they're budget friendly, and then you can definitely gauge like why this one costs more than the other.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you can. You can see the transition from your first pair of waders to your premier waders that you're going to get repetitively for the rest of your life.
Speaker 4:That's right, that's right.
Speaker 1:That's right?
Speaker 4:Well, I mean, I guess, on that note, donnie, talk about some of these new things that you guys have.
Speaker 1:So we've kind of launched into some higher end duck stuff. That's why we're here at Delta, we're here at Ducks. We have a brand new Oxbow lineup. So that's going to include your signature Frog Talk technology, waterproof stuff in a duck jacket. So it's going to have lots of extra pockets, chest height, hand warmers, insulated sleeves and an non-insulated core that way we can go and pair it with our Oxbow vest. And we also have some new ho non-insulated core that way we can go and pair it with our Oxbow vest. That's awesome. And we also have some new hoodies coming out. We have new front zip waders that retail at like $5.50,.
Speaker 3:I believe.
Speaker 1:So if you love that front zip which I've never been a front zip guy I'm going to try them this year because I've always just gone insulated waders and these are non-insulated. The boots are still 1,200 gram, which is awesome, yes. And the Frog Talk boots on waders are comparable to none Like. I really enjoy these. They have the non-antimicrobial, like all of the stuff you need for a wader. It's there. It's comfortable. When you're walking in the marsh you don't slip out Like it's tight around the ankles comfortably tight around the ankles, yeah. And everything sizes pretty well. If you're an 11, get an 11. If you are a 12, get a 12. There's no problem. And if you come to the boot today, we have every single size of boot you can try it on. So that's a nice thing too. We like about that.
Speaker 4:Well, I'll tell you what and I feel like this is kind of the underrated part that we got to get the word out more about that when you're sitting in, let's say, stomach high timber water Yep, people don't think about the pressure of water after hours of standing in that, true, and I will say you guys innovated so the first boot that y'all had, we would have that. And I was like gosh dude, like it's hurting because the suction, like the pressure, yeah it squeezes you.
Speaker 4:The pressure you guys came out with that Ridge buster boot. Not a problem, yeah, zero. And if you get stuck in the muck you can pull your. You can pull that boot out without like losing your foot right.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean yeah, no, yeah, no, they're legit. Uh, donnie, last time we had you on like right after you started with frog dogs, one of the big things you were talking about is just the uh, what was going to happen with the content game and dude, I just want you to talk about that a little bit because, oh my God, it's been money for the last like yeah yeah, there's one person and one personality that's kind of helped me with that, and that's Zach Bosis.
Speaker 1:If you haven't seen him, zach Films Zach Bosis on Instagram, go, take a look at him. But he has been undoubtedly the greatest videographer I've seen in my lifetime and I am happy to have him on board as a full-time content creator with us now. So we've been teaming up on trips. He came to ICAST with me. What's crazy is I met him in 2021, and we had never met in person until two weeks ago.
Speaker 1:No kidding, but we've been back and forth working on projects together, so that was the first time being with him, which was awesome, but he's helped me out a ton. Me and him have very similar vision and style of edits and stuff like that, so I can very much just send him a song or whatever and I'm just he understands what I'm looking for. Yeah, um, and I think he has a style that's unlike any other. So now his style has become frog talk style. So that helps a lot too. Um, but we, we, he said, we share a passion, we share the vision and we're we're hungry. Uh, I, I want, I. Nothing gets me fired up than like opening up my phone and seeing that 99 plus notification thing on TikTok.
Speaker 4:So, um, we, we've gotten some good stuff so far, but uh we're we're putting the industry on notice, we're letting people know, isn't it a great example, though? I mean, I'll tell you what you know, uh, and I'm not trying to tail off on on. You know me, uh, being a managing partner in a business. But you know, one thing I got taught a long time ago when I was a young man is that, you know, businesses are built on people. Without the right people, you don't have anything, and, dude, to see the impact that you've made immediately in the frog talks is a true testament of that.
Speaker 1:Thank you. I appreciate that it's hard to see sometimes from where I'm sitting, but that's. I hear a lot of that, so I must be doing okay, yeah, Well.
Speaker 2:I got to imagine man just living it day to day.
Speaker 1:It's just like I mean, it's your full-time job, so you live and breathe it, and you're just kind of the grind is always there. You know the weird part that's just make to check in on people are now work calls. It's like, hey, do you need anything? What's going on? Is there anything you need to be doing Frog talk wise? So it's just like the check in calls are now frog talk calls, which is funny.
Speaker 2:That's kind of nice because it's kind of two for one. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Definitely.
Speaker 2:Most people are making those calls on the way to and from an office and uh, you're getting to work both you know, with your day job and uh, and with those connections of course you know.
Speaker 4:Yeah, hey, I'm gonna throw you a curveball here. Donnie, I just heard from somebody that I need to ask you about the goat story.
Speaker 2:Goat story, something about a chicken and a chicken or a goat I got no clue Chicken and a goat Chicken or a goat.
Speaker 1:I got no clue yeah he's the one trying to set you up for it. What does that?
Speaker 2:entail Stacy. I guess the world may never know.
Speaker 1:We'll find out about that later. The only person that's aware of this joke is Stacy.
Speaker 4:Well, I guess we should keep it that way.
Speaker 1:Stacy.
Speaker 2:He's not a southern boy. He don't get that, I don't get that None of us do.
Speaker 3:Well.
Speaker 2:I guess if anybody's listening and gets that joke leave it in the comments.
Speaker 1:Yes, please Just DM me so I know and I'll come and call Stacy in the comments. Yes, please Just DM me so I know and I'll come and call Stacy.
Speaker 2:Honestly, honestly. Well, donnie, we got you know. Obviously it's going to be kind of hectic in here today. So, we want to be kind of quick with your time, of course, but we got some topics we want to hit you with that we're kind of brainstorming on the way, yeah, yeah, yeah off? All right, so I'm gonna start with uh, would you rather duck hunt? Okay, this is memphis, right, yep, so think about two music legends from memphis okay, all right, you ready yeah would you rather duck hunt with young dolph or elvis?
Speaker 1:I'd probably do young dolph like I don't think. I don't think elvis would be. I don't know. I feel like there's already too much lore about elvis. He'd like almost ruin it where young dolph like I'm not 100, not a hundred percent aware of everything and be like all right, get to know this guy, what's going on. And I think he's way bigger in the duck community than Elvis, unknowingly probably.
Speaker 2:He's probably a little bit more proficient with guns.
Speaker 4:Elvis was in the army, wasn't he? Yeah, and you know what we did? Well, we did some research with Chad GPT on Elvis. Did you know that he actually built a habitat to bring in wild ducks?
Speaker 1:Really? Yeah, I did not know that he was big into outdoors.
Speaker 4:He had a ranch that he would always go to and ride horses and everything, but in that he was big about conservation, and it said specifically that he brought in wild ducks. That's cool. I wonder if he had anybody that hunted them, though.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all right. So the next one I got for you. Happy Gilmore 2. Have you seen it? Yes, what's your take on?
Speaker 1:it, so I like the first. I laughed my ass off.
Speaker 4:Yes.
Speaker 1:That's a guarantee. I was a huge fan up until where the maxi golf portion started. Yes, me too. It was just too colorful, way too much going on, way too quick. The jokes were always funny they were just like the maxi team was weird, um, but I thought the ending was good. My favorite scene in that entire movie is when happy's car doesn't start and all the sons just start beating the crap out of the car.
Speaker 1:Then the homeless guy comes over and he starts beating up and then the sons get mad at the homeless guy and then the homeless guy dances and they stop beating him up and then he runs away and they chase him down, start beating him up again.
Speaker 4:I lost it during that I mean, the movie grabs you immediately when you're like yeah, john Daly. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yes, uncle John.
Speaker 2:Oh man, Good night, Uncle John Daly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we need some hand sanitizer in this booth.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, oh man, no, I had some buddies that didn't like it and I'm like y'all are taking it too serious. Yeah, it's.
Speaker 1:Happy Gilmore. It's Adam Sandler no-transcript.
Speaker 4:Oh, I haven't seen that yet. Oh, it's good.
Speaker 1:I think Adam Sandler probably has the record for the most cuss words used on a Break 50. And I don't think anyone will ever break it. I love those Break 50 videos man, I've seen several of them, me too. You golf a good bit. Yeah, I, I play in a league. I play every monday. Um, I used to play in high school competitively um, but yeah, I, uh I play when I can.
Speaker 1:Okay, I wouldn't say I'm a golfer, but uh, I'm probably whenever I play like 18, I'm mid 80s oh, wow, yeah, heck, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So what do we think about? A? Uh frog talks golf tournament one day.
Speaker 1:So we're going to a buck master golf tournament in August. We're playing with those guys down in Alabama. We'll have some content coming out soon. Actually, Zach's coming down to film with us.
Speaker 2:In Gulf Shores, or what.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure where. Honestly, I can't remember. I know Kevin booked the hotel, so I kind of just let my brain shut off.
Speaker 4:Well, I'm sure Jackie might even own a golf course.
Speaker 1:Yeah, probably.
Speaker 2:That's funny man. Well, we got a segment that he touched on earlier called.
Speaker 4:Mr.
Speaker 2:That you got one more.
Speaker 4:No, we got to get this young man over here oh that's right, we do.
Speaker 1:Come here, charlie. Come on, charlie. All right guys, this is my coworker, patrick's son, charlie. Charlie, you've never been duck hunting, correct? No, I'm not. Pop a seat up. Pop a seat up, all right, talk. Get as close as you can when you talk.
Speaker 4:Okay, all right, ask away fellas Charlie, yeah, do you want to be a duck hunter?
Speaker 3:Yeah, that'd be fun.
Speaker 4:I'd like to duck. Do you want to waste all your money? No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1:What's your yearly income?
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah. What's your current net worth? 60 worth uh 60 bucks every other week yeah, all right. So you're making money, I'm making money, that's what I'm saying. That's a good thing for a young man how old are you again?
Speaker 3:I'm 11 11.
Speaker 4:It's 11 with you know, he's probably smarter than a lot of people my age, no, so awesome. So what makes you want to get into duck hunting?
Speaker 3:uh, I think it'd just be fun, you know like being outside and you know like hunting.
Speaker 4:That would be fun yeah being with your dad, being with friends and all that kind of thing. You know, that's one of the things that brought me to the sport too was just, you know, it's something that you can do with friends, yeah, and it doesn't matter sometimes even if you shoot a duck, yeah.
Speaker 3:You know what I?
Speaker 4:mean, but it is fun when you shoot. Yeah, are you gonna try to hunt this year? Uh, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I want to gotta see what dad says about it. Right on, right on.
Speaker 4:Well I guarantee he's itching. Oh yeah, yeah, dad's itching. No doubt about it, man, yeah the real one.
Speaker 3:We have to ask his mom. She might, she might put that down.
Speaker 4:I don't know mom always tends to uh, hold the card to that, doesn't she? Well, you know, I deal with that all the time. I've been with my wife 30 years and it doesn't change well tell, tell mom.
Speaker 2:Tristan and tony approve and donnie approve that's right.
Speaker 4:That's right. So what is one piece of advice you would give uh kids your age like, like want to get into hunting, like what comes off the top of your mind? I don't know, just like get out there and have fun yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 3:Get out there and have fun, that's right. That's what it's all about.
Speaker 4:Right, go outside you know, one time we were hunting and we even had a frog jump on our frog, togs, waders and I'm like, well, this is just perfect and that made the hunt awesome that's awesome dude. So um you got any questions for charlie tristan I?
Speaker 2:don't know, man, I'm just excited to see your journey. I told you, uh before when he started he's got a cool polo on he's got the mallard waggle polo. It's so sick, yeah. And what's so your job today? What are you doing today for Frog Talks? Huh.
Speaker 3:I'm hitting up the hats. That's what I'm talking about, son Hitting up the hats, yeah.
Speaker 4:He is the vice president of hat distribution. That's right, the CEO of hat distribution.
Speaker 1:He says he don't take no from nobody.
Speaker 4:Well, I'll tell you what, buddy we love seeing young people like you getting into this sport, because we know you'll tell your friends about it and you know, at the end of the day, getting off those video games and getting outdoors and shaking hands with people, like we're doing at this show today all the people. You're so darn cute. You're going to give away 100 hats in about an hour.
Speaker 3:Do you?
Speaker 4:know what I mean, but, man, we just wanted to get you on here. And you know what I mean, but man, we just want to get you on here and and man thank you for being who you are. Thank you for helping us out. Yeah, thank you, yes sir, all right, we'll talk soon.
Speaker 3:All right, talk to you soon. Bye, yeah, all right, buddy we'll get a video that you can send to your buddies.
Speaker 1:That's right that might be the greatest 11 year old I've ever met dude he is.
Speaker 4:Since I met him, I'm like who is this guy?
Speaker 1:he like yeah, yeah, as far as making conversation, he approaches me and I get nervous. He knows how to sell.
Speaker 2:He does. He might be better at podcasting than I am.
Speaker 1:You give him one show, his second will be like Joe Rogan quality it will be.
Speaker 4:It will be. I love it. So cute man. I love seeing it, especially the older you get. Obviously we all transitioned from hunters, you know, from going we just want to kill a bunch of stuff. Then it just turns into seeing the success of everybody else.
Speaker 1:And just wanting to make an experience for everybody that they enjoy.
Speaker 4:That's right, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 2:It's so addicting to see somebody else like a click, you know, and it's like now they enjoy it. That's the best.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah. Well, it also makes you feel old, because I remember when Tristan was 11 and he couldn't pull back a 40 pound bow yet and he wanted to bow hunt so bad. And I said, nope, not to Illinois. State law was you had to pull back 40 pounds. Oh really, he worked his butt off, man. I mean I said you got to pull it back and sure enough he got lucky and got his first deer when he was 12.
Speaker 1:That's awesome.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you know what I mean, but it's something that I look back and just go nuh-uh. It wasn't that little.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:And then, well, I won't even get into other parts of it. I mean, there's no way you were even a baby.
Speaker 3:Right yeah.
Speaker 4:No man. But, no, we want to hit you up. Fire, just be ready.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all right, so 12 gauge or 20 gauge?
Speaker 1:20.
Speaker 2:Okay, surface drive versus outboard Outboard. I knew that was going to be Public versus private.
Speaker 1:I don't have private, so public.
Speaker 2:Okay, face paint versus no face paint Face paint. Let's see here. I know the answer to this one too Monster or Red Bull.
Speaker 4:Monster.
Speaker 2:Breakfast pizza versus breakfast sandwich.
Speaker 1:Pizza.
Speaker 2:Okay, ford, or Chevy Ford, bush Light or Miller Light.
Speaker 1:Neither.
Speaker 2:Okay, then what do you?
Speaker 1:like Whiskey and vodka Okay.
Speaker 4:All right, whiskey or vodka.
Speaker 1:Whiskey yeah.
Speaker 4:Oh man.
Speaker 2:Okay, and then the last one. We got here frog togs or any other brand.
Speaker 1:Frog togs, baby, let's go Frog them togs.
Speaker 4:Frog them togs, you guys Frog them togs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, those are good questions. The other thing too a lot of podcasts I listen to. They have you go back you? Have 20 seconds to answer all of them, and then at the end you can explain one answer right for all those questions so I, so I go back.
Speaker 1:I would probably pick uh, outboard versus surface drive. Okay, I think a lot of people duck hunters are like well, you gotta have a surface. But the way I look at is like I'm a big fisherman too and I used to have a surface drive, or like a long tail and fishing out of it sucked because it's crazy loud. You go super slow and like I don't know. I just didn't see the use of a surface drive yeah.
Speaker 1:There's not a lot of spots where I'm like I need to get in there, and I just don't have a lot of spots where it's like now, if you're down South Florida or whatever, it makes 100% sense. You've got to go through all those weeds, you've got to get through some mud, actual mud. But for me it's like I fish seven months of the year and I hunt I think it's three. So I'm picking a fishing boat that can hunt, duck hunt. So I really want to get one of the Excel River Runners. It's like a 1653, I think, and I want like a 90. Oh nice, like a 1653, I think, and I want like a 90, whatever that max horsepower is.
Speaker 1:I want the max, yeah and like because I go up and down the river or I take like in new york it's big lakes, okay. So like I need something that can at least cut some water and keep me dry, and that's fast, because I just like going fast on y'all's lakes out there.
Speaker 2:Do you got to be careful because, like we got lake lanier right up the road from us yeah we had a, had a. What was our boat? A 1740?.
Speaker 4:Oh, the 1648.
Speaker 2:And we would run into out there, man, like if we didn't time it right like those white cap wave days, man, it was dangerous out there.
Speaker 1:So, like I you do. The lakes get big, it all depends. Like Saratoga Lake near me, not really Champlain. Like Champlain and the Great Lakes legitimately get 10 to 15 footers. If you see videos in the winter time of Lake Erie or Ontario, there's literal waves that'll hit the shore, go over the shore and it's so cold. The second it hits the house, it freezes, it freezes the entire house. Geez, wow, the Edmund Fitzgerald you ever heard of the Edmund Fitzgerald? Yeah, I mean in the Edmund Fitzgerald you ever heard of the Edmund Fitzgerald?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I have.
Speaker 1:Them southern boys. They don't get it sometimes. The Edmund Fitzgerald was like a 84-foot boat that on Lake Erie snapped it in half. The waves were so big it snapped it in half. Yeah, there's a whole song on it. You gotta listen to the song.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, that's insane. It's like that's their oceans, they're not lakes, they're a sea.
Speaker 1:I guess sea would be the official term. Yeah, but yeah, they get massive. Wow, damn dude.
Speaker 4:Well, you know, we were just talking about motors real quick. I can't help but recall, you know, like our first boat, when we talked about Florida marshes, right. So we felt like it was necessary. But the guy I bought it off of, the first time I started up I was like man, that sounds a little loud, he goes, oh man, he goes. I took that baffle off of that thing and all this. Well, the very first time we put in the water, we go up and there's this boat dock there in Julenton Creek, florida, julianton creek, florida. We put it in and there's this he. I mean I don't want to show shade on the guy, but he looked like lieutenant dan, yeah, I mean after he got injured right and he was fishing on the dock.
Speaker 4:That said no fishing on the dock and I was like, who's gonna say anything to him, right? Well, anyway, we start that thing up because you know what y'all got right there. I said no, and he goes. That's called a florida swamp harley. I was like, but that was our very first boat, but we had to get rid of it because as soon as we decided that we were going to hunt timber, I was like, dude, we'll kill somebody with this thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we got rid of it. The one thing I think I would use a surface drive for is I want to get like a small 12 or 36, something I can put in my truck bed because, I have a lot of river spots that don't have boat ramps, so I can't get my boat in.
Speaker 1:It's like something like that. And then you see those feather light surface drives. Yes, they're like 12 horsepower, 15. Like I want something light that I can carry my boat in. It's two guys, we both pick up my boat, drop you don't need a light bar, nothing, and then just put the feather light motor on. You know, I can cut through some shallow water, hit a stump, whatever. I just want something that will get me up and down that river rather than have a kayak.
Speaker 4:Did. I just see at ICAST that they have a kayak with an inboard. It's a jet-propelled, jet-propelled inboard kayak. Yeah, and it's battery-powered.
Speaker 1:What it won Best of Show at ICAST we got videos of it on our YouTube channel. We just did an ICAST recap video. But, yeah, it won Best of Show. I didn't look at the retail, but a lot of small mouth guys would do the creeks so they can't use their propellers. They have to go up and down the really skinny rocks so I guess that's what that's for.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's just sick how technology's changing everything. The batteries man Instead of one of those featherlights, I would do one of those new mercury outboards that are electric, because then you don't need a gas tank.
Speaker 2:Yeah right.
Speaker 1:I would do something like that too. For sure, for sure man.
Speaker 2:Have you seen the Guinus?
Speaker 1:Yeah, those are legit, those are super cool.
Speaker 2:But I don't even know like, is there a legit manufacturer for that, or are they just like all like kind of custom cut?
Speaker 1:The Guinos? Yeah, I think they sell them at like. You can go to probably a dealer and buy like a. This is a model they mass produce.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Because I've seen a lot of them. There's a lot of them out there, yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm like is somebody just making these in their garage? They're like fiberglass poured.
Speaker 1:They're legit.
Speaker 4:They probably were inspired by somebody who said man, I need this. For this reason, Don't we run into that so much as waterfowl hunters.
Speaker 1:A specific tool for one spot and you spend a thousand bucks on it just for that one spot.
Speaker 2:It's like teledrive yeah.
Speaker 1:His experience of explaining how he came up with that's awesome it is.
Speaker 4:It is man, but yeah, man, uh. Well, I'll tell you what. There's a lot more important things to do than for us to have this podcast right now. We gotta get some frog togs products and insight backpacks off these shelves. Y'all need to get your butts by here immediately, shake some hands, buy this stuff. We'll talk to you about the deals when you get here.
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Speaker 4:Hell yeah, donnie, it's always a pleasure. We appreciate you guys supporting Frog Talks. Thank you to Will and the family.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
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