One Hell Of A Life Outdoor Podcast
The One Hell Of A Life Outdoor Podcast hosted by father-son duo Tony Vogel and Tristan Vogel, Owners of Zero Duck:30 and Zero Buck:30 . Our passion lies in bringing every hunter the REALITY of what it REALLY takes to hunt their target animal while equipping them with the knowledge to be a successful hunter and promoting the lost "old school values" that laid the foundation for the sport we love so much today.
One Hell Of A Life Outdoor Podcast
From Missouri Deer To Arkansas Ducks: Wins, Lessons, And Late-Season Strategy
We recap a whirlwind month: a Missouri venison run with a wild shot story, a first crossbow buck, a tough Arkansas opener shaped by water, and a hard call to move our Georgia public-land deer setup. Wind, thermals, and pressure become the blueprint for better late-season odds.
• new hats and leather patches launch timeline
• thank-yous to supporters, guides, and partners
• full video now streaming on YouTube
• Missouri bow mishap, recovery, and crossbow drop
• Arkansas opener realities with low water
• public land etiquette, safety, and expectations
• Georgia rut timing differences by micro-region
• when to pull stands and start over
• ridge setups, thermals, and “bulletproof” wind
• ground stalk lesson at 40 yards
• fawn “zoomies” and sharp buck bark behavior
• late-season plan and Florida draw hunt
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What's going on, guys? Tristan and Tony back with a solo episode on video. And you might have noticed the podcast table's different. We got a little bit cooler of a look going on here. We do. Hope you guys had a great Thanksgiving. We're gonna kind of just talk, you know, what we've been up to, talk about some cool things we got in the works. But uh yeah, what's going on, Dad?
SPEAKER_04:Uh, you know what? We've had a lot of things happen. We've had uh uh Thanksgiving. Uh you turned 29. I did on the on the 28th. Had your birthday, and uh um we had a lot of people friends that birthday. Cade had a birthday.
SPEAKER_05:A lot of November and October birthday.
SPEAKER_04:Colton had a birthday, uh see, uh Lil Chase had a birthday. Um man, every there's been a lot of birthdays, but there is no man. Uh it's just uh it's that time of the year, man. That's right. I thought when you you said it best on that reel, like we're back, baby. And I'm like, yeah, we are. Yeah, and uh no, we've been we've been all over the place. I uh I've been in Missouri deer hunting. Um I don't think we even talked about that.
SPEAKER_03:No, we haven't.
SPEAKER_04:Um did some hunting with Cade. Um, you know, we had opening weekend to talk about. Uh we got potential honker smash if we can make it happen with Cal.
SPEAKER_05:We got still been chasing deer here in Toronto trying to make it happen.
SPEAKER_04:She's been chasing the deer, and uh um, but yeah, man, just uh a lot of stuff going on.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna dive into some public land deer hunting, bow hunting uh strategy later. Um, so any of you bow hunters, you know, that might find that interesting, especially public land hunters. We're gonna dive into a little bit of that. But uh kind of like what he said, um, we're just gonna kind of give you guys a recap of what we've been up to. Um, one quick thing, I'll a couple just like quick announcements, I guess, like housekeeping is um one, uh, we got new hats on the way. So this hat that I have on and the hat he has on, the Richards, they're both Richardson hats. I'm getting them both done, but not in the same colors. We're getting a different camo on. Um, this is actually gonna be like a duck camo too. They're all gonna be leather patches, some are gonna be duck, some are gonna be buck, but they're all gonna say one hell of a life. Um so stay tuned for that. Gonna be uh dropping those here in the next two or three weeks. Um outside of that, you know, we really appreciate you guys when you, you know, rate uh rate the podcast or anything like that. I don't know how that stuff works, but I think in algorithms, like the more ratings that we get that are positive, the more we get suggested to people. So if you wouldn't mind drop us, uh dropping us a review, rating, that kind of thing, we really appreciate it.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, whatever platform you listen on, man. Yeah, whether it's YouTube, Spotify, uh uh, Apple Podcasts, you know, whatever platform you're on, man, just uh a real quick one would be would be great. We really appreciate it. Yeah, um, the other thing I will say that I don't think we've talked about either, and if we did, then I apologize, is that big big thing for us, dude? We uh 2,000 uh followers on YouTube.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, 2,000 subs on YouTube that happened probably I don't know what six weeks ago, yeah, something like that.
SPEAKER_04:So big deal to us. I mean, I always say to everybody, you know, you might hear 2,000 and and um you know if you don't put it in reality, like if you put it in the reality of digital, then you're like eh, 2,000, right? But I always say if you put 2,000 people in your backyard, man, that's a lot of people. Yeah, that is a whole lot of people. And if I went every time somewhere and 2,000 people were gonna show up, bro, I'd be excited.
SPEAKER_05:Right.
SPEAKER_04:I mean, that's a lot of people. So we appreciate every single one of you. Thank you so much. Um, we just try to keep it real and um just bring you the reality of everything that we do.
SPEAKER_05:So um absolutely, and on the YouTube thing, um, I I I don't know how many people know this, but we're doing the full video now on YouTube. So if you want to just sit here and feel like I guess like you're in the room with us and stare at us, yeah, you can watch us on YouTube too. But um, you know, yeah, so that's a new thing.
SPEAKER_04:Big shout out, this guy right here, uh, and and and his crew, Williamson Outfitters. You guys, uh, they've been ripping them up, they've been tearing.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, it looks like off to a great start. Yeah, dude.
SPEAKER_04:But Chris, big shout out to you and Bryce and the whole crew. Thank you so much for supporting us. We really appreciate it. And uh um, I guess to pay a few more bills, Frog Togs, man. Uh hey, listen, we could not do this without you guys. Um, our biggest supporter, for sure, man. Thank you, Donnie. Thank you, uh everybody, the whole family over there at Frog Togs, believing in us. We really appreciate it. Also, want to shout out to somebody that doesn't give us any financial support, and that's Bush Light. Um, Bushlight, uh, I've got a collection of 16 of you right up here.
SPEAKER_05:No, we just give but Bush Light financial support. Yeah, we do.
SPEAKER_04:We give you some financial support a lot. And you know, if you ever would happen to catch and see this and say, hey, those guys need free Bushlight, we would be glad to plug you for free for Bushlight. Um, but I've now got 16 cans. I'm very proud of it. Um, and uh, no, you know, um just uh you know, Delta Waterfowl, dude. Um, that's the other thing we had happened in October. We had a great event. Um, I think we did talk a little bit about that, but um a big shout out to leading up to it. But yeah, a big shout out to those guys.
SPEAKER_05:I think it's shout out to the Justins, Taylor, all those guys over there, Stacy, regional director. Um, there's some other that others I'm missing, but everyone that went into putting that event on, I mean, it was an absolute blast, and we had a great time.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yep. And um, just so I we're we're we're shouting out to folks that you know helped be are part of this, and maybe you don't know it that are so vital. Big shout out to Delta Thunder Outfitters, man. Uh Cade, Colton, Carson, uh Colton was just recently on the podcast. Yeah, probably that's Mr. Glenn, um the customers, everybody there. Just thank you so much, and thank you for all the hard work you guys do behind the scenes that nobody sees. You know, um it's been tough, and we'll talk a little bit more about that out there.
SPEAKER_05:But uh well, and to round round, just I'll keep it short, to round out the thank yous, Dirty Duck. Um, we got a hunt lined up with them uh uh at Delta Thunder in January. Super excited for that. Um, finally getting a hunt with Jay and um Buck over there. Let's go, boys. Um, shout to our boy Matt, who's been on the podcast about three times. He does a a lot of work with Slayer Calls, sent us some duck calls, and that's what you see on the table here that are pretty slick. Um, and they sound great too. Um, so yeah, good stuff. But all right, so let's kind of get into you know what we've been up to. You know, you touched on some of it. I think um the best place to start would be, you know, kind of a 30,000 foot view on your time in uh Missouri out there. It's pretty uh successful few days.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, no, um, just take that journey without uh being mother goose about it, which I have a tendency to do. Um no, Cade was nice enough to invite me out, you know, and of course, you know, we do a lot of duck hunting with Cade, but you know, I I think it's special when you get to go out and do something different with your friend, especially I said it before like one time when he and I went on a goose hunt together. It was just I want to be uh I wanna I want to hunt with him when he's just like being like a hunter and a friend, you know, not like stressed out about making sure people shoot waterfowl. Yeah, yeah, you know. So um he invited me out to his family's farm. Um, super appreciative of that. Thank you again, Cade. And um uh Colton came out and hunted, Carson came out and hunted. Um we had a great time. Um opening morning, Kate put me right on a spot. I told him I said, I want I want a young deer. I'd want that for the me. It's important to me. Like it's that is as important to me as getting a nice rack. It really is, is having like that. And uh he put me right on the stand, you know, first morning, and I let a rip. And and I'll tell you what, it was the funniest shot I've ever made on a deer in what is it now, 42 years of bow hunting. Um you guys, I I I can we always bring you the reality, so I have to tell you the truth of what happened. So this deer came in and it and another deer, and they came in, they bed down 25 yards away from me. Long story short, hours went by, it fell asleep. I wanted to, I was so mad. Anyway, I'm like, I'm not shooting that deer. It's first morning, whatever. And I'm like, but if you get up and you even try to walk downwind to me and snort at me and screw this stuff up, you're getting it. Sure enough, that's what she did. Just slowly started meandering over downwind of me. And I was gonna have a 15-yard shot, and she just had to get through the cedar tree. I'm at full draw, and she poked her head around and looked right at me and was just like, I I've already figured you out, and started doing that little happy walk away and was quartering away hard. And uh she stopped. And I remembered ranging this one tree that's 28 yards, and I was like, I'm taking that shot. Well, I pulled back and it was too severe, and I'm like, just wait for her to turn. I need her to turn like four inches, yeah. And so I got the pin, I'm just holding it, holding it, holding it, and she turned and I let it go. As soon as I let it go and see her run off, I saw this big bloody spot and I'm like jamming. Yeah, I mean, I mean, dude, I jammed this deer, and she ran and I heard kind of a crash thing and nothing. I'm like, all right, so I waited for a little bit, got down, and I get to where she was and there's nothing. I mean nothing, dude. Nothing, not a drop of blood. And I look up there about five yards, three yards, or something like that, and there's my arrow. I'm like, all right, there's my arrow. And I look at it, and it's got two orange flesh and a white fletch, and there isn't a drop of blood on it. I mean none, zero, not nothing. And then I put my reading glasses on and looked at the broadhead, and I'm shooting a muzzy trocar hybrid, so it's got two fixed blades and two expandable blades, and I took it and I went through and I looked at it with my reading glasses, and I'm like, dude, there's a there's a hair on there. It was like crimped in the in the expandable blade. And I'm like, well, there's a hair, but it's one of those things, and we've all been there where you're like, dude, you start second guessing to yourself. You're like, dude, I know what I saw. I saw a bloody spot that looked a couple inches, you know, and so I started looking around at just the direction she went, and I'll tell you one thing that was really unique about that that territory, that that terrain out there was it's like any other big hardwoods that you see, you know, a lot of oaks, and you know, you got your occasional cedars and pines and that kind of thing, but there's rocks and boulders everywhere, and you can literally just like you'll tri you can twist your ankle in one step. I mean, just it is it is kind of dangerous. And I started going down this hill, and I get down there about 65 yards, and this deer's laying there looking at me. And I'm like, that's never good, right? You know, so I thought it was dead. I left my bow hanging at the base of the tree, so I snuck back up the hill, got my bow, snuck back down there, let her have it another time, put her out of her misery, you know. Um, but I was like, what the hell? And I walked up and I looked at this deer dude. And Tristan, maybe you can throw up a visual of like where I'm talking about. But y'all know where like you put the slice in, like, if you're gonna hang your deer upside down by its back legs there in the tendons, right above that tarsenal gland, right there, there's a big slice open, and if you're looking at a deer parallel, like this, right? Or that was the best way to do it. So you're looking at it like this, and I'm doing it. I'm if you're if you're watching this on YouTube, you'll be able to see what I'm talking about. And you're coming at an angle. What happened was is I was really about one inch inside from being a perfect shot. But clip that freaking part of that leg, but the bottom of that artery that runs out, and that thing, it was gonna die any any time, you know. But um, but that was interesting. And uh, you know, here you can do this forever and have these kind of crazy shots happen. But um, but then um the next day, I I think I drank, I partied hard that night and had four beers. I had four beers.
SPEAKER_05:That's pretty light.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, no, I did. I had four beers, partied hard, me and Ike, and then I went in and Cade's like, Well, he goes, I want you to sit over in this one spot. He goes, but you know, it's it's a box blind, and this one's set up more for gun hunting. He's like, Have you ever shot a deer with crossbow? And I'm like, you know what, dude? I have never shot a deer with a crossbow. And to me, how it feels like cheating a little bit, I'm like, so what? I've never done it, so it's still a challenge, and you and me.
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SPEAKER_05:Making the forgotten coat unforgettable stigma around it because it's and I mean you can only do it if you have like a disabled person. Is that still the law? Uh last I knew my you had to have a disability. A lot of states though, you can do it regardless of anything.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, they've lifted that. Yeah, yeah. Well, I thought, well, what the hell? You know, I might as well. And uh, and hey, what I'm thinking about big shout out to President Trump, big shout out to the VA, big shout out to the state of Missouri for supporting disabled veterans. Thank you, because you guys made it possible for me able to do this because if not, it would have cost way too much, and my wife would have said no. So, anyway, thank you.
SPEAKER_05:But um why you think I wasn't out there?
SPEAKER_04:Right? But um, so no, so um he puts me in this box blind saying, and we were talking about and he told me he said, Hey man, there's uh like three different bucks that have no eye guards. And one of them, he showed me two different ones. Colton had seen it the morning before, and Colton's like, if I if I would have been able to get either one of those deers shit shot stop, I would have shot. And they were three and a half year olds, but small for three and a half year olds. I mean, nothing special. I'm saying, you know, 85 to 110 inches, something like that. But they just, you know, this it was just a spindly, they're not big. Um, they just need to go, you know, compared to some of those other big tens and twelves that he's had on camera. So anyway, I was sitting there first morning, and it dude is beautiful. It's down in these booth foothills of of Missouri, South Missouri. Literally, when you go into this place, there's a rock road, and on the left side is Arkansas, on the right side is Missouri. And it's just a beautiful country, and everything was frosted down. I'm down in this big food plot, and this doe comes out and comes in, and I'm taking all this great footage of it, and all of a sudden, man, I just see her raise up and look down at the other end of the field, and I just see this buck come. You know, and he does that, you know, what I call bird dogging. His nose is down to coming right for. And he runs around and they play around, chased her around for about five, ten minutes or whatever. And I'm looking at him looking at him, and I'm like, dude, I don't see any eye guards on the thing. And I'm like, he's done. That's it, that's it. And he stopped out there, and dude, my first one with a uh uh a crossbow. He I hit him, and it's one of those times where you hit him in the shoulder, but it dislodges something from the spine. And I'd love to learn more scientifically about this because I don't know. I just know that I've seen it many times on videos with gunshots and bow shots, and this is the first time I've experienced it. But I shot that thing and dropped him, dude. He just dropped and he crawled a couple steps, and within I'd say less than 10 seconds, he was dead. Yeah, and upon further review, what actually happened when I hit that thing, I actually hit him a little high and it deflected off the shoulder bone and went straight down through the heart. It actually came out like right down here. No kidding. Yeah, and I wasn't that high up. I think I was only that box blind stand couldn't be more than 16 feet. Yeah, you know, so it wasn't a severe angle, and it was a 31-yard shot. But I'll tell you the thing that was so cool about those, dude, it was like shooting a it was like shooting a rubber band gun. Yeah, you know, just you shoot, you're like, boing. When you shoot, there's no recoil, dude. It just goes boing. And next thing you know, this deer's like bap, and it's dead. I was like, dude, what just happened? You know, so but that was a fun experience, and uh, and of course, you know, I'm not even talking about all the great times we did, just this the camp and all that stuff. You know, Carson cooked us some killer ribeyes with this. I forgot, Carson, forgive me that badass butt rub stuff that you got, but um, but no, just all those parts too. Ike got to go on our first out of town trip with me, so that was fun. It was a it was a good time. That's awesome. But I got plenty of meat, and that's what I'm super excited about.
SPEAKER_05:That's awesome. Yeah, you gotta have the freezers full. So speaking of freezing freezers full, so you know, coming off the heels of that, you know, we've been hunting and uh deer hunting around here and just trying to with a limited amount of time get out, you know, when we can before duck season came in. Um and I think we got out a couple times during the riot. Like you went out on a on after work one night and saw like a good action, and we we went the next one night. Yeah, went the next night and of course didn't see anything. And just it's been like a cat and mouse game, and then we uh rolled into opening weekend out at Cades, which you know is basically you saw guys if you've seen our YouTube, you saw the tradition last year. That's kind of just what we do for the most part. Um, so you know, we're real excited to go out there for opening weekend, hunt with some good buddies that we've hunted met on public land in Georgia, and um of course, you know, the cast of characters you just named that was up there in Missouri with you, but yeah, um, it was man opening weekend was it was tough, man. You know, water is an issue in a lot of places out there. Um, there's like praying for rain. Um, I think you know, from what I've seen, there's there's some ducks around. I mean, when we were in a field with some water in it, I mean, there were some ducks that worked us and we had opportunities, it's just you know, it wasn't working that day or whatever. But uh that was kind of the story of the first split, you know, at least at um, you know, where Cade's at out there in northeast Arkansas. I know a lot of people have experienced the same thing, but it just sounds like if you got water, uh you're probably same thing on public land, dude.
SPEAKER_04:Public land, everybody was freaking out, dude, doing backflips and killing people and stuff. I mean, it was just you know, and it God bless y'all. We've been part of that before, but but man, it's a it's a struggle, struggle's real, right? And uh just y'all be fair, have fun. Remember, it's about having fun and and be safe. You know, that's that's the big thing. But see, I I didn't hear anything super bad reported out of that opening weekend um thus far, so that's good.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, no, I I haven't seen any viral fighting videos this thing, so thank God, hopefully.
SPEAKER_04:I did see a video that I was like, dude, is that video from like 10 years ago? Because there were so many boats taken off. Um, but they did look like those being a little safer, so man. Anyway, but uh but big shout out to all you public land folks. You know, we've done it. Um, we've been lazy about it in in some aspects, I guess. We're getting ready to do some in Florida this year, which is going to be super awesome. But um, but no, big shout out to the the public land guys because you know what? I love that fight. Uh just I gotta pick my battles at my age.
SPEAKER_05:So well, when it comes down to it too, like the last few years, like you really if you're gonna do it, you can't just go on a weekend and try to you just have no chance.
SPEAKER_04:I mean, it's like you're wasting your time.
SPEAKER_05:Like I mean, it's just there's no way you could go into these local boys' backyard that know these properties inside and out and realistically have a chance to do anything successful. I mean, you really have to do your homework and spend your time. But um, you know, obviously opening weekend was, you know, it is what it is, that's the way it goes sometimes, like last year and the year before it was great, you know. So even in Arkansas, you know, the level set some expectations for people listening, you know, could sometimes great, sometimes it sucks, sometimes in the middle. It's just kind of the way it goes. Um, but the special thing about it is you have those opportunities for it to be great.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, well, and and I want to just like say what the highlights were for us. I mean, like honestly, yeah, the time in the blind was great. We got Ike out in the blind. Yeah, that was cool. See her running around a rice field like she didn't give a damn was very exciting for me. Um, she got to go she got to see a goose retrieved. So I uh, you know, I got to go out there with Willie and his dog Roscoe and Ike was just like, dude, what is that dinosaur, dude? Like, and and and even Roscoe he but he picked that sucker up, he's a big boy, but um, but no, just getting that association, you know. Um, I think it's important, and that was really special to you and I both. Even Ike trying to get out of bed with me and sleep with Cal every night, that was bullshit. Um, I I don't know why she won't sleep with me, bro. But I guess she just like I don't sleep with my co-workers, you know. That's why I told mom, I go, I guess with me it's all business, and with you, it's just like all like love. You know, so it really feels like that's how the relationship is. But that was special to me um being able to get her out there and that was cool. It it was, and and then you know, the the time with everybody around camp, um the the folks with Colton Hayes and that group. I mean, big shout out to all you guys.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, we smashed that Mexican spot that one night. That was that was glorious. That's tell you what, man. The buried, I'm not gonna not that we would like we're not big enough to really blow a spot up, so it doesn't really matter. But the buried buried spot or the burrito tacos at the spot in uh Jonesboro, like out towards like you're going, uh, I guess that'd be the west side of town. Going towards cash. I forget what that place is called, but oh my god, the berry tacos are just out of this world.
SPEAKER_04:Oh my gosh. Everything there is out of this world. The strawberry margaritas, everything. The the the the folks are super nice, you know. I mean, um, but no, but we were we were having so much fun. Um, you know, we just made the best of it. And we were having so much fun that you know, we all got together over at the lodge, and and um one of the farmers and and Willie put together a giant stack of smoked ribs, yeah, feast giant feast, and um hosted everybody, and we had families out there, you know, and all the hunters, and it was a great time. And so many times I talked to somebody that night and they go, dude, can you believe it's Sunday night? And you would have sworn it was Friday night before the opener because we were having so much fun. And and then that time with everybody, and you know, especially um just seeing all the families there and stuff like that was important to me. I thought that was a really good time.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, no, it was a great time, and we're looking for being uh looking forward to being back out there. Uh New Year's around that time, we're gonna be out there for four or five days, and our cousin AC that um that has booked with Kate a couple times now, uh him and a couple of his buddies and us, we got an Airbnb out there and we're gonna be doing some doing some hunting out there, so looking forward to that. Um and then of course, like we said earlier, we'll be back out there with dirty duck uh towards the end of uh January. So but uh you know, coming off the coming off of the duck hunting, you know, straight back into like deer mode.
SPEAKER_03:Like immediately.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, immediately. Because depending on where you're at up here in North Georgia, like I where I know for a fact, like w where my house is in Gunnett County, they rut like Thanksgiving week, like the 22nd through the 22nd.
SPEAKER_03:That's when you see bucks running hard.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, that's when they the since we've lived here, that's what they do.
SPEAKER_04:You look at the rut map and by the way, why are you saying this if you don't know this already? It's because like 90% of them go through his yard.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, and it if you want to know why I don't shoot them, it's because we live on a half acre and there's houses everywhere, so I could shoot them with my bow, but I'm gonna end up on the news when I have to retrieve the deer from you know from Karen's grant yards.
SPEAKER_04:That'd be the best thing that ever happened to our podcast, honestly. If you as long as you didn't get in trouble.
SPEAKER_05:Well, if they let me take the deer, I wouldn't get in trouble. There's nothing illegal about it.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I think we need to get a petition going around your house. Like everybody that lives around you be like, dude, who wants to participate?
SPEAKER_05:We all sign off on this. Yeah, I'll give you, I'll cook this stuff for you. I'll give you a core. I'll give you your whole family. I'll give you a leg. Yeah, because they need nothing to see like uh 125-inch deer. And I mean, the biggest I've seen, like, no shit is like what's up, guys? Tristan here. If you're like us, you need gear that's gonna stand up to the elements and not break the bank. That's exactly what we love about frog talks. They just dropped their brand new octavo waterfile series, and let me tell you, this stuff is built for serious hunters who don't want to quit when the weather turns nasty. It's tough, lightweight, and waterproof. Everything you need when you're out there chasing ducks. If you're looking to upgrade your gear this season, head over to frogtalks.com and use code OneHealthalife outdoors at check out for 15% off your order. 170 plus easy. Like some Lee Ellen.
SPEAKER_04:You're being you're being uh type type deer. No, you're being you're being uh you're being humble with that.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:That deer is yeah, he's big.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, we got some urban monsters running around uh.
SPEAKER_04:Dude, I just saw one last night. Yeah, you know, I'll tell you, Lee, I'll tell you exactly where it was. No, don't do that. I will. I will because I'm telling you, you're going to be hunting over somebody's swing set if you're gonna shoot this deer. Uh dude, I'm going up, I live uh in the Hamilton Mill area. Um you have to take Hamilton Mill Parkway to get to where we live. And it's just it's two lanes each way, and it's houses everywhere, dude. Just houses outside of the country club and the golf course. And I just I was probably about a half mile from the from the golf course and country club and stuff. And dude, I looked up last night and it was a big one. It was one of those ones where you look at it and you go, Oh shit. I mean, it did this, you know, just the rack just came up, kept coming up, and uh but the thing that blew me away about it is he looked body-wise like dude. I've I'm only like three and a half years old. I mean, he looked like a quarter horse, you know. I mean, just like had that body like the great prince off of Bambi or something. Like he wasn't at his mature age yet. He definitely wasn't, but it was cool to see that. But to your point, the rut can be so much different um within an hour north, hour south of us.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, for real. So we um I don't know, it I think it seems like we've probably concluded that's a little bit earlier on the public land that we hunt than it is my house, which is an hour north. But you know, it's interesting because the private land we hunt at our buddy Matt's um out in Athens, their rut is also like by the Georgia DR rut map, uh the 22nd through the 28th. So it's kind of weird how it all kind of structures around us, but um, you know, obviously with what you were seeing um around the middle of November, I mean that was like prime rut activity. So we're kind of when we got back into hunting after um hunting deer after the duck trip, it was kind of like we're hoping that we're still getting, you know, the remnants of the rut.
SPEAKER_04:Um well, and if you if you hunt the rut enough, everybody knows. And if you haven't experienced this, you need to know. And that is the later the rut goes on, is when the bigger boys start to show up. I mean, it's just that simple. It that that's the way it works, consistently everywhere. And that's what we were hoping for and hunting hard for. And I mean, I was out there, Tristan was out there this past week. We hunted several times.
SPEAKER_05:We put a good 20 hours in the stand across maybe three days. So, I mean, that's pretty hard hunting.
SPEAKER_04:And the thing I wanted to talk about on the podcast tonight is there's there's a thing called know when to say when sometimes. And I've gone through it so many times in my hunting career on public land, is that you know, you have the spot and it's been a producer, you know, you know it, you have confidence in it, uh, especially when you have a two tree stand lock-on setup, that's a lot of work uh when it comes to putting all that up, you know. Um it you can be so hesitant to you know say, is it still as good as it was? Is it is something changed here, you know? Because in the back of your mind, you know that if you're being honest with yourself, that shit, I gotta take all this stuff down and move it, which is a pain in the butt, you know. So anyway, um, we had this spot, Tristan and I, we've shot deer out of this area several years. Uh it's been a good producer. We've had a lot of great memories there. Um, unfortunately, this year, um we've had it's public land, and we've had one guy start tying ribbons around trees like he's trying to support some kind of an awareness thing. I don't know. It's it's just like he looked like he tried to find the biggest trees to tie a big orange ribbon around. Um, so we know you're there, Bob. And and then his trail camera was set up, you know, 75 yards from our tree stand, 80 yards maybe, and we've had it up since end of August. But it's okay, he might not have seen it. That's fine, it's public land.
SPEAKER_05:I think they just got the deer got blown out of there.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, and and then long story short, when we decided, okay, hey, we're pulling the trigger on this, let's get down early this one morning this past week. Let's go scout these areas that I had previously scouted and thought would look good. And we start walking up the ridge and we found another tree stand, which is really funny, and that just sealed the deal. Yeah, and in our minds, I go, dude, look, as much as this place was great, there's just the deer are just going, man, I'll just go over here. Yeah, and so our thought was let's go over here. Right. And so it's a little bit harder place to get to. We got over the hill, and this deer jumps up, which I think was a doe, and it's real steep valleys. Guys, when I'm saying steep, I'm saying 45 degree angle, hundreds of feet, like 300 would be probably close. 250, 300 feet at a 45 degree angle. So, like that. And this deer was down in this bottom, and it went up, and this is getting close to the property line. It went up the hill, and well, hell, it the ground was wet, there was wind, and we're hunters, and what was next, Tristan?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, you're like, yeah, this was kind of funny. Actually, if you want a visual on this, I put together like a hunt vlog, and it's on our Instagram, or it's on my Instagram, um, and it's on our TikTok um of this what happened. But essentially, we go to start stalking this thing, and it's the reason why is because of what you just said, and it's got its head down feeding and the wind's perfect. And I ranged it, it's like 110 yards. And I was like, okay, well, maybe if I like come down the ridge we're on and then go back up and then kind of it's up on the ridge on the other side of us. Yeah, I'm like, I can kind of use that in my favor, hide behind trees, and kind of you know go for it. So, long story short, I saw start to uh stalk it, maybe make it 15 yards, and then I look back and he's like, Yeah, that that deer is walking and kind of crested the ridge and went over. So we're like, all right, well, we just kind of just like forgot about it and just started kind of just but we decided, hey, just in case, yeah, let's not just tromp up the hill. Right, yeah. We were just kind of game planning and like not being like super quiet at that point. We were kind of like, well, whatever. So we go up there and we're ho we thought it had been 10 minutes, 15 minutes, that thing probably just fed off and it's gone. Well, the whole time we're walking up there, we're being kind of quiet and just you know, scanning, and I see it and it's at 70 yards, and it's got its head down feeding, and hasn't hurt us walking. Like, I'm like, okay, so we might have a chance here.
SPEAKER_04:So I swear I saw him lick his lips. He was like, he's like, oh baby, it's all right.
SPEAKER_05:Because to me, I'm like, I've really been trying to get a buck this year. Like, I probably should have shot three deer this year if I was like being but dude, ultimate predator stalking a deer on the ground, right? Well, and this like I've passed several deer this year, my is my point, because I've been trying to get a buck. So to me, the opportunity to shoot one on the ground stalking, I don't care what it is, I'm shooting it. So um, long story short, still think this thing's a doe, and uh creep up to like I got on my hands and knees because I was like basically it's not a 45 anymore. If I could describe it if you're watching the video, the deer's kind of up here, I'm up here. So there's a little bit of like terrain I can use in my favor, but not much. It's mostly I'm gonna have to hide behind trees.
SPEAKER_04:It's just feeding on acorns.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, so I was using that little bit of a crest still, I guess if you want to call it, when I was on my hands and knees. But if I would have been standing up, that would have been eliminated. So I crawled and then I got up and I ranged it, and I'm like, all right, it's at 50 yards. And uh at that point I realized it's a spike, and I'm like, okay, so that maybe that's why we're so close to this deer because it's kind of stupid. I don't know.
SPEAKER_04:But anyway, uh I about that time it started kind of walking a little bit, and I'm like, okay, to keep like pace to get to while I'm videoing this, I gotta tell you, from my perspective though, I'm about 20 yards and I'm thinking, like, dude, I'm like the cameraman for bear grills right now. I'm just like, I'm on the ground, and I'm like making sure I don't screw this up with him, but I'm behind him, dude, trying to film this stuff, and and honestly, it's very hard to get the focus in. I just kept thinking, dude, if I could get one shot of like him and the deer, yeah, you know, like well, somebody's gotta be blurred out, you know. So I tried doing it like where I got you, but the deer blurred out, but then the deer was a focus and you were blurred out, yeah, that kind of thing. So that to me, just that challenge in itself was fun. Yeah, you know what I mean? But but I kept thinking, Jesus, dude, are you gonna go up and punch him in the face? I mean, I I mean, you were getting so close, and but the depth perception from where I was looking at it, and you'll see it when you see it on camera, it looks like he's right there. Yeah, it looks like Tristan could spit on him.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, it is actually kind of crazy. Um, and I guess just because the deer was higher elevation for me too, maybe that's part of it. Yeah, but uh so I got on my feet and started moving, you know, at you know, walking at that point and trying to be as quiet as possible, but you know, like yeah, and but you lose your balance a little bit and then you kind of stumble and then it's like sh, you know, and you're like shit.
SPEAKER_04:And those deer don't miss a beat versus like shh. That's what I was trying to do, but one time I did shh I did too, and I was behind you, and I was like, dude, as soon as I did, I was like, I just wanted to, I just like dude, I hope I didn't screw this up.
SPEAKER_05:So I got to like 45 yards or whatever, maybe 40, and I made a noise and it heard me, and then it went back down to feeding. And then I got another like yard and then it heard me again, and then it stopped, and I was like, oh shit. So it was looking our way the whole time now, and then it turned around and faced its body towards me.
SPEAKER_04:I'm like, oh dude started walking towards you.
SPEAKER_05:I'm like, here we go. But then it started walking towards me, and I'm like, in my head, I'm like, I know you know, young young bucks are kind of stupid.
SPEAKER_04:So like well, that's when I really thought, dude, are you gonna spit on him? Yeah, like punch him out.
SPEAKER_05:So I was like, young bucks are kind of stupid. So, you know, he might this might work out. Yeah, you know, he might walk right up because they're curious curious, you know. And uh basically I had two small trees that I was hiding behind, like so small that like I was full draw on this deer because I knew it was the last opportunity. I when he was walking towards me, it was the last opportunity I could draw back without him seeing me draw back. Yeah because his his basically eyes were behind this tree. So I draw back and I'm looking at the skinny tree in front of me, and out of my left eye I can see the deer, and out of the right eye I can't. So I'm right-handed, I got my full, my bow, full draw, and I'm looking out of my left eye, and I can see the dude looking right at me. And then I look out, I'm trying to shoot, and I'm like, fuck, I can't see him. Excuse my language. And I uh so what I was like, he stopped. I didn't think that deer was gonna come any closer at that point. Honestly, I thought he was about to start stopping his foot and then snoring at me. So I leaned outside of the tree and I was like, okay, he was completely frontal and coming right at you. Yeah, frontal shot, and I was actually a little bit below him, so it was like the perfect opportunity to take a frontal shot. And I was like, okay, I know he's about like 40 yards, and um, I don't even know what happened because I I thought like I put if you saw the tail of your feather kick up, like I mean your flesh kick up, you had to stick. Essentially, like the way that my I have one of those sites where you have a 20 and 30 yard pin, and then you gotta spin this wheel to um make it 40 or whatever, which I was like, well, not doing that at this point. So basically, I'm like, I'm gonna put my 30-yard pin where I think it needs to be to be a 40-yard shot, essentially. So um I shoot and then I hear a snort, and then my arrow, I just see my arrow vertical. I'm like, I don't even know how that happened. I don't know if hit a stick, limb, whatever that didn't see, and it bounced up, whatever. Deer bounds off. Um, didn't end up getting a deer, but it was just it was it was fun. That was pretty cool. That was pretty cool.
SPEAKER_04:It was. We were not expecting that. And the funny thing that I loved about that, and I hope that you were like, all right, maybe my dad wasn't being dumb when he said that, was the night before I said, dude, you know what? We should get down about nine o'clock and do some still hunting.
SPEAKER_05:You're like, and I was like, dude, dude, what are you talking about? He said, I'm like, I'm not doing that unless it's pouring down rain.
SPEAKER_04:You know, that makes sense to me, but I'm like, nah, I just thought that's the whole time when you were up there, I'm filming, I'm going, yeah, I'm away. Um, but no, here's the cool thing, and here's the the the whole point of where we want to go with this. So if you're hunting public land, man, and it's just not working, you gotta make a change. And so we made a change, went over and found this new spot, um, took everything down that morning, took it all over there. It was a bitch. We had to go way up on on this other area. I'm not even gonna say where it's at or what we did, but anyway, it's a beautiful spot where we sit, you can see hundreds of yards, hundreds. This whole open valley, it's just beautiful.
SPEAKER_05:Step on this ridge, all these fingers, yeah, it's just beautiful.
SPEAKER_04:And uh one of the smart things I want to point out to you guys, and I want you to always look for this opportunity, is that when you're looking to set up a deer stand, number one, always know what your prevailing wind is. Uh, what's prevailing wind? Wind that is constant or the most common wind during that time of year. Your prevailing wind could be different in the spring than it can be in the fall or the winter, etc. But wherever you're at, I know like when we were in Illinois, southwest wind was prevailing wind. You know, where we're at, it's really west-northwest.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's a lot of that.
SPEAKER_04:It's a lot of that, you know. So, but I remember being down south in in um um South Georgia. We was always having some kind of a east wind. You know, just I don't know if it's the way that the wind turns down there by the coast or whatever it was, but it did that. So you need to know what your prevailing wind is. But here's my point: the way this ridge was, this ridge basically ran north and south. And it's a big long fingered ridge. I mean, I would say stem to stern, that thing has probably got to be a quarter to a half mile long. I mean, I don't even know where the top of it is because some on private land. Yeah. You know, but it goes all the way literally down to about four foot wide when it gets down to this valley. And where we set up was on the the prevailing wind is going to be some kind of a west. So you're talking about a ridge that's running north and south. We want to be on the west side of that ridge. Okay. The only disadvantage of doing that is yeah, you're starting to go down the ridge on that side, but you're gonna have to put the tree stand way the hell up there. All right, so you're not like eye level with deer on the ridge. But what that does, and Tristan has seen it happen multiple times now, is you can have deer come downwind of you right below you. Like literally, I would almost I would almost rather the wind be right blowing right below us.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Going towards the valley on that opposite side, because they will not smell you, you guys.
SPEAKER_05:We almost I said to him, I'm like, we almost have like a bulletproof wind because it's like it's like it's like a glitch in the matrix. It kind of is because it just the way it was blowing over that, like just with our scent, like I mean, every deer we saw, we saw six deer that evening that and most of them were downwind. Well, yeah, besides two, they were all downwind. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Didn't smell at all. And I'm talking about from distances of 40 yards to 200 yards.
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SPEAKER_04:But just our scent could have easily lingered down there.
SPEAKER_05:But here's the point is we did have a strong win though, so that's probably the caveat there.
SPEAKER_04:Well, the caveat, I would it's always like you want that five to eight wind, that's perfect. Five to ten. You start getting above ten, that I don't know. The only disadvantage with that is you can't hear deer coming as easy, right? Um, not that they're gonna shut deer down, but but it's a constant wind, and that's the thing that's important when you got that like five to ten, is that you're gonna keep that wind going constant. And but this wind, so in the mornings, it if you're sitting like I'm talking about and you can find that unique setup like that, what's gonna happen is in the mornings, that wind when it's really cold anytime really, the valleys are always gonna be colder because cold air goes down, goes sinks, right? So in the mornings when you have those thermals and the sun comes up and hits that, those thermals come up the hill. So your wind's blowing this way, plus you got thermal going this way, your shit's just blowing up way above where anything could could smell you. And you know me, I'm smoking a thousand cigarettes, and dude, when I see that, it's like it's you know what it is. I it's it's one of those as a smoker. I look for these like perfect opportunities to smoke as many as I can. It's like the uh it's like a that's it's a it's a glitch, really. And but when I see that happen, I'm like, yes, I can smoke a cigarette. Tristan, he's usually below me when I'm filming. And even when I know the wind's not blowing down, he'll be like, dude, good smoking. You know, in these instances, oh no, dude, I could just I could have a freaking big old Cuban cigar up there and nobody would know about it. So, but but look for that type of situation. And our point with this whole scenario is we made that change and it was a bitch, and we had to make that, and it was cold as hell. Our fingers were frozen and doing all that stuff to make that change. But dude, just in the three sets, how many deer we see?
SPEAKER_05:Uh six and four, maybe five, so eleven, or well, well, no, we've only hunted there twice. So two sets we've seen like eleven deer. Yeah. That's pretty dang good.
SPEAKER_04:And one that it was a shooter anywhere.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, he was he was nice. Yeah, he he was, you know, eight, ten inch G2, uh, you know, eight, ten-point type buck. He was probably, you know, somewhere around 120 inches, if not more. Um, but he was nice. I wish uh he probably would have been the biggest buck I've ever shot, which would have been cool. But um, yeah, I mean, we feel pretty good about that spot. Yeah, he came running in. That's where I first heard him. So and then he went where two does have gone. So, you know, might still have some life there if you know they come back into heat. You know, we still got some time. So uh that's kind of the next um little thing for us here in the next couple weeks.
SPEAKER_04:Hold on, before we go there, I just wanted to mention this too. Because I want to know how many people have experienced this. I've only experienced it twice, maybe three times in my life. Tristan got to experience it for the first time in his life. So the last evening that we hunted there, we had a Forky come in and he was down below us quite a bit, and I just messed around with the grunt call, which by the way, the extinguisher grunt call is so great. Um, I hit it, he came up, he was looking our way, and we had a standoff with him, but I guess he heard this chaos going on, the ridge over and took off that way. Well, next thing you know, all hell breaks loose. I mean, literally, like all hell breaks loose, and we can see across this valley to the top of this ridge, and I'm talking a couple hundred feet up. We see this deer come running at mock speed.
SPEAKER_05:I thought it was a coyote at first of how low it was to the ground because it's just hauling out hauling ass, dude.
SPEAKER_04:As fast as you can go down parkour off of trees, ridges, everything, jumping to 30 foot creeks. I mean, just psychotic, dude, it runs down the hill, and this other fawn was following it and stopping and going, like, bro, what's your problem? Yeah, well, then this buck sees it and he's like and he comes down and gets down there and does that. What the hell was that?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, he looked, you looked at me and you're like, Did you hear that? I'm like, Yeah, I'm like, what was that?
SPEAKER_04:You called it a bark.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, it sounded more like a bark.
SPEAKER_04:It's the third or fourth time I've heard this in my life, and I'm not even getting that's not what I was talking about in the beginning. But tell me, you guys, drop comments, message us if you've heard a deer make this super sharp, it almost pops your ears. Yeah, like it's so super sharp. He did that to like go, stop it, like because she was running like an idiot, dude. And this valley bowl that she was running was no lie, like if I had to flatten it out like a hundred yards in diameter, she would run across that thing, go up the ridge. It was the zoomies, dude. The zoomies like you never seen, and I was up there laughing my ass off there.
SPEAKER_05:I was like, what is going on?
SPEAKER_04:And this buck is just staring there going and he's just like, dude, I am not keeping up. But she would like rut, like she was trying to play keep away, like she would run out of sight, and you wouldn't even hear her anymore, and then all of a sudden you hear and she'd just come flying by and that buck was just standing there. But we got to watch this whole show. But here's what I want to know from you guys if you've seen that behavior before, the old timer that I learned from, he said that that was a fawn coming into the heat for the first time. That what he swore was that that you know their their privates back there get on fire and get tickling them, or they can feel it burning something, and they just don't even know how to react to it, and they just get like crazy. And I've only seen it one other time, and it was it was extremely similar. And I just sat there and laughed my ass off. Have you guys ever witnessed that with a young doe fawn? Because there's something to it.
SPEAKER_05:What one thing um I'll say is I've seen them do it at the park that we live by at our house in the spring.
SPEAKER_03:Really?
SPEAKER_05:So I just wrote it off as I've seen them do that crazy up and down shit and just having fun. The mom's just sitting there eating, just watching, you know, just crazy kids. So I just wrote it off to like, is this just a crazy young animal? Like, you'll see like baby horses do the same thing when they're like, you know, first kicking around and stuff like that, but not like this, dude.
SPEAKER_04:That was like that's I've seen one. Like somebody he that that it was just like somebody gave him a big fat line of cocaine. Like, literally, this it was it went on for what easily 15 minutes. It seemed like easily 15 minutes.
SPEAKER_05:I mean, we we definitely saw it for I don't know, maybe 10 minutes, but then you you you kept hearing it. I don't know how long we heard it for. But no, that was pretty cool. It's it's definitely a good spot. I mean, we'll see what happens.
SPEAKER_04:I think we feel real confident on harvesting meat there.
SPEAKER_05:I mean, yeah, we do we're a little bit off the X, we think, just because we set up a camera up on the ridge and we haven't seen as much activity as we've seen when we're hunting it down in kind of the valley, that transmit transition point.
SPEAKER_04:So but it's a good observation point, and sometimes you've got to do that, right? And and you know, you talked about earlier, like you don't know as much as the local boys do about duck hunting, right?
SPEAKER_02:Yep.
SPEAKER_04:Same thing about deer hunting, right? You don't know as much as the local person does about that area. You learn an area, and we already know right now, next year, we've got we've got to be down in this one certain valley if the wind plays fair. Yeah, we have to go down there and and you guys, when you when I say when the wind plays fair, is if you go down, if you're not on top of a ridge, I'm just saying this, do this, and you're down in a valley of any sorts, you've got to figure out what the wind is doing where you're standing, where it's at in the tree. So you need some way of testing that over a long period. And unfortunate, fortunate for me, I smoke. And one thing I'll do is I'll get up and stand and I'll blow a big puff of smoke and just watch it. Watch where it goes, right?
SPEAKER_05:Non-smokers, that's called a windicator.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, windicator. Yep. And um, but then what I also do is I walk around, I go out 30, 40 yards, and I blow a puff of smoke. I get down. I want to see where that wind is going. And unfortunately, you can have, we've all seen it, those spots that are the greatest spot in the world that you can't hunt, right? And that might be the case.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, the wind never plays true.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, you know, so but we learned something, that's the point. Um, we increased our odds, that's the point. Get out there and move around if you need to. I wasn't trying to show throw shade on the other public land hunters, that just happens, you know. And I I like I've always said, I don't think people ever set up on you on purpose. I think it's just lack of knowledge. Yeah, you know. Um, but anyway, um, we're looking forward to to hunting that area, and I think it is an area that we could get a late season buck in. Yeah, I think it's I think the deer have shifted the to where nobody's walking at, and uh we got a chance.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, no, we definitely got a chance. We'll be out there this weekend, so fingers crossed, we can seal the deal. I'm I'm getting a little trigger trigger happy, so I don't know how much more patient I'm gonna be for a buck, but uh I'm definitely not going out of deer season without shooting another deer. If there, if there, if there's any aspect of it I can control, that's what I'm gonna control.
SPEAKER_04:Yep, yep. Um, well, moving forward, Tristan. Um, we can't keep everybody up all night. Um, mom's already mad at me, probably, but no, but seriously, um what we're super excited about, it's been over three years of lottery tries between us and our group. And we finally are going back home. I call it back home. It's the roots of our duck hunting, um, and going back home um to to uh Florida for a lottery hunt. Um, we'll keep the name of where we're going, I guess, quiet for now, but y'all know what it is if if you go there.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, we've talked about it.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, so um, but we're gonna be filming 100%, and we're gonna be showing you guys the reality of what that looks like. And um yeah. It's gonna be a good time, man. I cannot wait. We've got a uh a good friend of ours, Jay. Um big shout out to you. Uh he and I have hunt helped each other out, talked about him several times on this podcast, but it's a true testament of hunters helping each other out. Um, you pat my back, I pat your back, and now we've got one of the greatest guides in the world in Florida.
SPEAKER_05:Well, it's kissing it.
SPEAKER_04:Not a guide. I want to be I want to be uh just a friend.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, it's it's pretty cool because like I mean, virtually uh we we've never like met this met this guy in person, but just from years of hunting the same places and him seeing our videos and stuff like that, like we've been able to share information to each other that has allowed us both to be more successful. Now uh and other and others, yeah, and others. And Jay's like uh knows this place like the in and out of his hands. So like we had been talking over the years, like, hey, if you guys ever pull this, like let's hunt together because I I know what's up, we'll shoot some ducks. And um, you know, thankfully, because we don't have a um there's part of this place where you definitely need a boat if you're gonna end up hunting there. So thankfully Jay does have a boat because we don't have a boat anymore, so we would be struggling there. Hey, hey No, I wouldn't I wouldn't throw any shade on that. That's just it's just nice to have a uh, you know a connection with somebody.
SPEAKER_04:But that I mean, who would have known? I mean, I think Jay and I first met online. Golly, it's gotta be five, six years ago now. Yeah, you know, and and so thankfully this is the first time that we're gonna be able to shake hands. But I just love the fact that we I mean, man, he helped me the very first time. I don't even know why you reached out to me, Jay, because I'm kind of dumb. But no, but he did. He just reached out to me, dude, to help out, and that's how it started was him uh um reaching out. And you know, I had to pay it back and helped some some veterans that he knew um get their first on their first duck hunt get limits, you know, and that was about as satisfying for me as a veteran as it gets. And um, it's just been a great relationship and look forward to getting out there and and you know, especially um getting out with him.
SPEAKER_05:Yep, yep. So guys, yeah, we we appreciate you uh Is it just is it me, you and Jay? No, and Drew.
SPEAKER_04:Oh sorry, Drew. Drew, I can't wait to see your fuzzy ass.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, no, it's gonna be a good time getting back there to the to the roots.
SPEAKER_04:You know, real reason why I say it is there's some public land areas that are that are three three to a group and some that are four. Right, yep.
SPEAKER_05:So you plus three or you plus two. Yep. But uh yeah, no, super excited to get back down there and do that whole thing. Um, we got that like December 20th. Um, so yeah, but thank you guys for tuning in. Yeah, um, it was awesome just being able to do a podcast, just us. Hopefully, uh you're still listening at this point. But we've had a lot of fun just kind of recapping what we've done and kind of just it's fun to just read we're talking to ourselves, but like we feel like we're talking to somebody. So I don't know, it's kind of fun to like revisit some of the stuff that's happened over the last six weeks because we haven't had the opportunity to do just a just us podcast, and I don't even know how long.
SPEAKER_04:Um well, and I think you know, and um thankfully though, there's a lot of a lot of folks that do listen to us that that like what we do and like to hear about what we do, and uh, we love sharing that with you guys just like as if we were all sitting around the campfire, you know.
SPEAKER_05:So absolutely. Well, guys, thank you for tuning in and uh yeah, it's one hell of a life.
SPEAKER_01:It's one hell of a life, I've been hell down, I've been too fast, and I'll think of the four.