Episode 83 - Tell It Right Podcast - Oktoberfest & Beetlejuice

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Mike and Jared go deep into Oktoberfest, the biggest festival in the world hosted in Munich Germany since 1810.
 - Mega Structure Tents
- Litre of Bier
- Pretzels
- Top of the line Beer Girls

Mike & Jared review the new release Beetlejuice Beetlejuice directed by Tim Burton, Starring: Michael Keaton, Wynona Ryder, Katherine Ohara, Jenna Ortega.

Transcript

Speaker 1
All right, we are live. It is episode 83 of Tell It Right podcast. I am Mike that is Jared and we are fucking here today. Everybody, welcome. Hey, before we get started, if you're watching the YouTube behind me, you can see some t shirts and those are our new fucking t shirts that are available on our website right now at WW that Tell It Right podcast icon.

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Speaker 1
We got the famous don't step on my showed in yeah sure so be sure to go check that out. Get that shit it's fucking hot. I think it's on sale right now because we use Redbubble, so I think you get that shit pretty cheap right now, people. So fucking jump on it. Jared.

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Speaker 2
Go here. Do it.

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Speaker 1
Yeah, do it. Fucking here.

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Speaker 2
Though. Do it. Gotta go. Do it.

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Speaker 1
What are you doing? Well, what you got in that bottle right there?

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Speaker 2
I escaped that video game I was stuck in so.

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Speaker 1
Well, what happened to Jeff Bridges, though?

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Speaker 2
Is he still there at was still there? Well, I know when it comes to the grid, it's one for all and all for one.

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Speaker 1
The whole point was to get them out, dude. I mean, we've raised all those funds so you could get him out and he's still fucking there. Oh, wow.

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Speaker 2
I got just partied.

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Speaker 1
Yeah. At the bar with the weird, pale people.

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Speaker 2
Yeah.

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Speaker 1
I really feel like they're part of Tron. Like, when they're all partying. Like, I felt like, like years before that, I had, like, a weird dream similar to that, like, and it, like, freaked me out. And I just, like, associated it with a French people. Like, that's like how, like the French like underworld is. Like they're all like fucking painted in that like old 1800s makeup, but then they're like weird, like leather and tight ass shit and like.

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Speaker 2
That and shit.

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Speaker 1
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And, like, flashing lights and fog possibly.

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Speaker 2
Could be, you know.

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Speaker 1
I, I manifested Tron Legacy. I don't know.

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Speaker 2
Yeah. You got Jeff Bridges stuck in that game again.

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Speaker 1
I know, I know. Son of a bitch, dude, but I. Yeah. How are you doing, Jared? Tell us how you feel.

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Speaker 2
A lot better now that it's the weekend. Oh, hell, yeah. Oh, yeah. Crapload of printing. So pretty much a project coming out. So.

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Speaker 1
You know, this is a good opportunity. Let's, let's highlight on some of it. So if everybody, if you're a first time listener, just understand that Jared is a 3D printer. He fucking print anything if you fucking, if you can dream it, he can print it. Actually, if you can put a blueprint together he can print it. But I yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1
No but yeah he's made a lot of costumes over the years and the how do we want to call it the armory is getting bigger and bigger every year.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So grown. Definitely.

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Speaker 1
So what do we got on the docket here for 2024 or 25?

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Speaker 2
So I've started on two, but my plan is to have five done by August of next year. Okay, depending. So here's the thing. A lot of this is dependent on how do I put it, me getting into shape. Yeah. So you know, when you are trying to look like a superhero or somebody, you know that that V figure of a small waist and a wide shoulders.

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Speaker 2
Yeah. Usually helpful or kind of more of like a like a barrel, you know what I mean? It's like I'm like a whiskey bear.

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Speaker 1
I've just I've been looking at the screen right now. I'm like a pumpkin face at the moment, so I know how you face.

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Speaker 2
The face doesn't matter as much. It's just, you know, when you're a 15 inch chest and your stomach is like 46 or 43 inches, you know, at this point, there's not much variation between them and it doesn't make the casting. So one, absolutely that's there's a variance of it. But yeah, the main ones I'm going to be working on, so I'm making a predator.

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Speaker 2
So from the movie Predator, who I've already got a few things for and I even got the laser for it. All right? Like the actual like the three dot laser.

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Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2
A special ordered it from some dude in Britain for, like, 30 bucks. And he sent me. It's like three lasers attached to a battery. And so I got that going.

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Speaker 1
Yeah. The wire. It's some South African account.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah, some guy, some prince. There's an Etsy. I love that. There's some stuff on Etsy. Yeah. And then I'm just going to make what this will be a simple one. I'm going to do a colonial marine from, uh, from aliens because I just like that movie. Yeah, I'm going to do a marine cast. I'm like a Hicks or Hudson, like a and that'll kind of coincide with the Predator.

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Speaker 2
That's and you're going to make the do the gyroscopic.

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Speaker 1
Whatever.

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Speaker 2
Oh, yeah. Pulse rifle. I'll just get you a pulse rifle. Gotcha, gotcha. But I learned something new, which was that there's a I think it's TASS universe which stands for Terminator Aliens. Oh, no, tappy terminator aliens. Predator.

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Speaker 1
Oh, the tap. Right. Yeah. You're saying that Atari. Yeah.

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Speaker 2
Yeah. Like, yeah, I didn't know that that was even a thing, but those, that genre of movies kind of coincide. So again, that like Terminator and Aliens Predator. So I'm going to do a colonial marine just to kind of be in that vibe, you know, because I am most of what I'm making is actually going to be for my brother, too, because he's just he's just the best model for Mike.

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Speaker 2
Just the man's got some type of autism, I swear. Something like, he's, like, so committed to his character. Like, it's kind of weird.

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Speaker 1
But he like, yeah, no, it's guy people. We go to fan expo with his brother every year. We lose them. We we worry sometimes that like, he gets taken to a hotel room and gets like fucking raped and shit in, like, it's.

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Speaker 2
Like an orgy.

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Speaker 1
Yeah, like.

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Speaker 2
Right.

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Speaker 1
But it looks like it. What's crazy is like. Yeah, he, like, he falls right into this like was the first time we went, dude, it wasn't even 5 minutes, dude. We were, we, we had just got past security, which. Yeah, I mean, not like security's crazy. We just got past security. We're in, like, the main vestibule, voyeur room, whatever you want to call it.

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Speaker 1
And I wear that for a half, but yeah, I'll say, Hey, can I get a picture? It is like a leak. I love it because he was just kind of like, what? Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1
Yeah. And then like from there on, he like, it just was like, All right, this is how the rest of the day goes. Someone asks you for a picture, you just say yes.

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Speaker 2
Yeah. You know, the funny part about it is to, like, I've been asked like, Oh, well, why don't you want to wear this costume? Where why don't you, you know, want to get that attention? And it almost gives me a better feeling to watch somebody wearing my costume get a lot of attention. You know what I mean? It's it's super cool.

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Speaker 2
Like me me getting attention in a costume is cool. But yeah, it's like you don't experience because it's happening so fast. You're in this capsule, if you will. Like, I mean, every time that we've gone, you've been basically, like, fucking the guy the whole time.

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Speaker 1
The nerd herder.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, the nerd her.

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Speaker 1
I heard that. Terrible.

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Speaker 2
Like, I can't hear shit. It's like talking at a tunnel, which I've actually got a few things up my sleeve for next year for peering in and speaking.

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Speaker 1
Yeah.

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Speaker 2
So, so those two and then that's, I'm working on it kind of a close really related I mean this to of the same costume essentially which I'm going to do which has become very popular is Warhammer 40 K Yeah, I'm doing two space Marines from that and one of them is going to be like the blue guy that everybody sees is names like Titus and whatnot.

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Speaker 2
And then I'm going to make a secondary one, which is this guy that's a I can't even explain what it's basically he's still a space marine, but he's like there's, there's like a religion to the lore of this. Yeah. Like it's a really kind of. Yeah, it's pretty crazy.

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Speaker 1
It gets pretty committed.

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Speaker 2
Yes, yeah. Yeah. So this guy is going to be more of like one of the clergy people, but he's got like a skull helmet, but he's got to carry, like, a giant hammer and sickle.

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Speaker 1
Witchdoctor with armor.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah. But he's going to have, like, a cowl over it, which I actually have to talk to you about. I need a blade, but. But it's going to be just those two guys. And then again, depending on size that I get down to, I'd like to do some type of Iron Man, which I've been looking at the the war war machine, the Punisher version.

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Speaker 2
Yeah. Which is just war machine, but it's painted up. All right. Yeah. So hopefully this works out. If I get four of them. If I get three of them down, if I get the predator and the two war hammers done, I think I'll be happy. The alien or the colonial marine. I'm not, like super excited about, but just something kind of a filler.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, because I'd like to actually next year, if possible, get a booth. Yeah. For cosplay, I think that would be tight as fuck, but we'll see. I'm trying to expand outside of Star Wars so that I can have some range so people take me seriously that I'm not just and video games are a great way because people relate to them as a big following behind then and people.

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Speaker 1
That's why we need you to share this podcast because we need you to get get this out there. So it is worthwhile for Jared to get that booth and then you people be like, Dude, I fucking listened to you. I fucking listened you, bro. I knew about all this shit. I was with you when you were talking about it.

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Speaker 1
Yeah. So we want. We want that kind of community, my friends. Yeah.

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Speaker 2
So? So it'll be fine. It's good. Shit is going to be a lot of work, but I'll probably have to recruit your help for some sanding days.

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Speaker 1
Sanding days and some borderline pornos. Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah. The garage just all fumes and shit.

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Speaker 1
There was another one I found and I watched it. It was like Star Crash or something. It's just like another check, you know? That's like the. The main protagonist, and it's just the space thing and it's awful acting. It's fucking awesome. It. But no, I mean, like, this one wasn't borderline porno like LA Galaxy, you know, it was just because, like, everything was silly, shiny and like, you know, like, had that, like, layer to everything with the camera.

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Speaker 2
But that tension, the tension and every scene there too.

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Speaker 1
Yeah.

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Speaker 2
So like the terrible acting. Yeah. And then the the mannerisms and the tension of like the things that they were saying. Yeah, this, that. It's like the whole time you're like, where's the chase? And how do I cut to it? Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, let's get like, most of the time I'm fast forwarding on that.

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Speaker 1
Let me pull up the cliff, crash the galaxy, you know. All right, fast forward now. Now, there is actually absolutely no boob in that entire movie.

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Speaker 2
Not one. No. It was the most disappointing thing, even just one.

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Speaker 1
I really the most you saw was the one ditch chest. There was a.

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Speaker 2
Yeah.

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Speaker 1
It's close as you're getting but I don't know.

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Speaker 2
It was upsetting.

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Speaker 1
It was. But on another note, it's fucking October faster. It. Yeah I fucking I am so intrigued by October fast let me tell you I like I never knew it was a 16 day celebration. 16 fucking days.

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Speaker 2
A long time.

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Speaker 1
Yeah. I mean like it's.

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Speaker 2
Not 16 days for anything. It's a long time, right?

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Speaker 1
Yeah.

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Speaker 2
You know.

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Speaker 1
It's not like life shuts down and everyone's getting like, fucked up 24 seven. But, like, no is a 16 day celebration. And like people from all around the world go out to Munich, Germany to fucking celebrate it. Now I will say anywhere else in the world, it's it's like a weekend celebration, you know what I mean? Yeah, it's not 16 days, but in Munich, Germany, like it is in, you know, the history on it is it dates back to like I think 1810.

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Speaker 1
I don't remember that people they got married, but it was back in the day when it was Bavaria, before it was actually Germany. And so Bavaria was growing and becoming, you know, gaining more landmass, you know, kind of every day. And so this prince and princess of two different families got married. And so they wanted to bring their people together.

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Speaker 1
And so they threw this five day celebration and it was like October 16th and two, whatever. And they did like horse racing. They had all kinds of food and then like drinks and stuff, like beer and stuff like that. And really the whole celebration was to celebrate this newly king and queen or prince and princess, whatever, of Bavaria.

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Speaker 1
And so then the next year, some greedy business people got together and like, we could fucking capitalize off this. We get with all the local breweries here because they did have all the money because everybody would go to the breweries and spend all their money on the beer and shit.

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Speaker 2
Yeah.

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Speaker 1
So yeah. So basically from then on, from like 1811 until now, every year they have had fucking Oktoberfest besides COVID, they shut it down during COVID for like two years and then they brought it back. But so here's the crazy part about this dude. Okay, so they built so they have all these tents that you come to. And these tents aren't just like fucking tents that you get from the catering company in town.

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Speaker 1
It's these are massive megastructures. Like the Germans don't fuck around like they're great craftsmen because they build these like they people. If you've ever seen like modern warehouses and like modern warehouse complexes in industrial areas. Yeah, these are just as big and they're temporary. They're not even fucking year round structures. So these things get put up in June.

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Speaker 1
That's when they start construction and then it finishes is sometime before the end of September. And so basically.

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Speaker 2
It's like some World's Fair shit.

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Speaker 1
Yeah, right. But like, yeah. Do they build these from scratch every year? No, they do reuse the pieces. They have warehouses that they store all that shit at, but then they yeah, they basically they do. We're talking millions of fucking dollars just for a 16 day celebration session. So you got to ask yourself how much fucking money is being made if they're doing that lately?

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Speaker 1
Cause you got to like, honestly, like, you wouldn't do that right quick. You would lose millions of dollars every year to build mega fucking tents. Well, if if they didn't make any fucking money, they would have little goddamn tents like every fucking town event I've ever gone to, you know?

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Speaker 2
Yeah, but I'm sure the I mean, if this is a how to put it, if this is a national event, I mean, they're probably paying taxes. And I don't.

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Speaker 1
Know if it's a national it's not a national event. It's it's a munich event, but it's like something that, like, has spread across the country or across.

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Speaker 2
The world, like people, like even the tourism aspect of it they're probably making.

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Speaker 1
Oh, yeah, yeah. Because people from all the world, it's the biggest festival in the world.

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Speaker 2
16 days.

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Speaker 1
Yeah, exactly. I mean it.

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Speaker 2
But it's not like it's it's not like the Chinese New Year where they stop working and shit.

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Speaker 1
Right? No, no, no, no. I mean, it's just like. Yeah, it's like like you say, it's like the World's Fair, so it's it's open to the public. You know, people are going to take days off for it. Yeah. You know, but it's not a holiday necessarily.

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Speaker 2
I mean, it should if it's that big of an event.

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Speaker 1
Yeah. You know, I mean.

00:18:05:12 - 00:18:08:20
Speaker 2
You have to pay people two weeks off in a non communist country.

00:18:09:06 - 00:18:30:08
Speaker 1
Yeah, right. No, maybe there is some like maybe in Munich there there's some, you know, things for it's like we don't work during this period or we only work maybe we don't work on the opening of it or something like that. Or weekends are off. Maybe they work seven days a week and weekends are off. I don't know.

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Speaker 1
Well, probably not because it's fucking Germany and they probably only work 35 hours a week and they still fucking produce as much as like the United States can. And it's funny how that works.

00:18:42:17 - 00:18:44:11
Speaker 2
But they have happy people working for a year.

00:18:44:11 - 00:18:52:13
Speaker 1
They can they more like yeah they could do a lot. Yeah it's that's a little fucking tip for all you fucking bosses out there.

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Speaker 2
Yeah.

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Speaker 1
Fucking cock suckers. I didn't say that anyways. So I got some tick tock here of like October Fest in general because it's like, really crazy. Like, people are. It's insane what goes on with this.

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Speaker 2
I've see this.

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Speaker 1
All right, let's. So this is like it just opened. All right? So this is the outside. These people are, like, fucking running in, like, crazy. Look at them. Look how they're running to, like, Germans run differently than regular people. Those are probably all Americans, by the way. Yeah.

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Speaker 2
Germans run different.

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Speaker 1
Yeah. That's going to be the next shirt. Germans run differently. Look at them like. They're like feet like in front of them and then like their arms are like flailing out.

00:19:47:07 - 00:19:48:07
Speaker 2
Maybe they're already drunk.

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Speaker 1
The very wealthy. And this is like 9 a.m. in the morning to. Yeah, so you see how crazy that is, right? Yeah. So if we go now, we're going to go into the tent. All right? The tents have just opened. Now look at these fuckers. They're pouring into the tent and they're just running on top of tables. Like, I think we're going to see people just lay on them.

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Speaker 1
Yeah, look at this. There's laying on them.

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Speaker 2
The servers they're.

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Speaker 1
Claiming.

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Speaker 2
Territorially.

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Speaker 1
It's it's a dog eat dog world. Dude flick. This table's falling over in the front here. We like I'm surprised people people have to get hurt like bad you know what I mean? Like if did but in America though this. What's that?

00:20:50:09 - 00:20:51:14
Speaker 2
You're drunk enough to forget.

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Speaker 1
So in America, though, this would never fucking happen. Because that's what Osho would be like. Nope. It's fucking broken ankles right there. All right, so that what we just saw, there was a smaller tent that looks like it's a single level tent. So these these fucking things get to double levels, dude. It's a tent and it has a double level on it.

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Speaker 1
That's what that's what I like. Can't fathom here. Like it's even though I'm looking right at it. So here's, here's the I think this is the off bro time. This is where a lot of Americans.

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Speaker 2
You'll find that.

00:21:34:01 - 00:21:49:21
Speaker 1
They obviously they're seeing American songs. But look at it in you got that upper level, you got this like main stage in the center. And then it's just like all these people.

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Speaker 2
This is a temporary tent.

00:21:51:19 - 00:21:54:14
Speaker 1
This is a temporary tent. This gets taken down.

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Speaker 2
How do you get the second level on that?

00:21:58:13 - 00:22:03:04
Speaker 1
I mean, I can see how you get the second level. You don't need.

00:22:03:05 - 00:22:04:10
Speaker 2
To be on scaffolding.

00:22:04:10 - 00:22:22:17
Speaker 1
That kind of yeah, I'm sure there's posts below it and all that and it's just basically they're building like a frame of everything and yeah, the cloth just encloses it. I mean like you can see it's open to like, yeah.

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Speaker 2
Yeah. I mean there's like, what do you call it? I mean, in between there's state. Like I'm not good with the architecture standpoint. Yeah. Not a trellis where that holds up the roof.

00:22:42:11 - 00:22:44:22
Speaker 1
Oh the truss. Yeah. They got roof.

00:22:44:22 - 00:22:47:10
Speaker 2
Trusses. Yeah. Trusses. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

00:22:47:10 - 00:22:56:13
Speaker 1
Like so I mean, like you could make this into a permanent structure and like put a roof on top of it, but all they have to do is just put cloth or some kind of fabric.

00:22:56:18 - 00:22:58:02
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah.

00:22:58:18 - 00:23:19:07
Speaker 1
Yeah. This is the short tent now that we're looking at. And so again, they got a second level in like you see how many people in there like so that's the thing like these tents can hold up to like so the average is about 6000 people that off brow house or tent that we were just looking at before.

00:23:19:20 - 00:23:26:11
Speaker 1
That one's supposed to be the biggest and they can hold up to 11,000 fucking people that.

00:23:26:21 - 00:23:32:23
Speaker 2
That it's like, how is that fun at all? Like with that many people and like, look at how packed you are.

00:23:33:07 - 00:23:40:06
Speaker 1
I know. But I think there's they can experience like this is like a mecca thing like you got to do it once, you know, like, I.

00:23:40:13 - 00:23:46:17
Speaker 2
Have like like, are they serving beer efficiently? Okay, you know, here's the next one.

00:23:46:18 - 00:24:07:10
Speaker 1
Oh, you want to see that? Oh, yeah. Here we go. You want to see it? Officiate beer. Look at this chick I like. I don't know how many beers that is. That's a lot of beer, though. Know that's not a regular beer mug that that's like four beers.

00:24:07:10 - 00:24:11:08
Speaker 2
Like it looks like 15 beers right there.

00:24:12:12 - 00:24:15:17
Speaker 1
Yeah, but like each mug has about four.

00:24:16:01 - 00:24:16:18
Speaker 2
American.

00:24:16:19 - 00:24:18:00
Speaker 1
Sized beers.

00:24:18:16 - 00:24:26:08
Speaker 2
Okay, no, that's probably like 12, 13 beers. Yeah, six.

00:24:27:00 - 00:24:33:13
Speaker 1
She just carried all of those. I don't think I could do that one.

00:24:33:14 - 00:24:37:03
Speaker 2
So, I mean, I could do it, but I'd be like, out of breath and it wouldn't be fun.

00:24:37:07 - 00:24:37:20
Speaker 1
Well, it's.

00:24:37:21 - 00:24:41:02
Speaker 2
Arch that would be stable. It wouldn't be stable.

00:24:42:00 - 00:24:42:18
Speaker 1
I thought I had a.

00:24:44:07 - 00:24:44:14
Speaker 2
Oh.

00:24:44:14 - 00:24:48:08
Speaker 1
No, that's not a good on. I should have another one here.

00:24:48:11 - 00:24:51:14
Speaker 2
I mean that's probably like what a 48 ounce beer.

00:24:51:16 - 00:25:11:18
Speaker 1
I forget it's a liter two liter cola leader Collider. Can I get a leader. A cola. It's a liter. I thought I had a better one. Rid of the you, the camera follows the check. So, like, she's, like, holding this and then dropping it off this one.

00:25:11:18 - 00:25:18:14
Speaker 2
So like a liter would be 33.8 ounces. So that would be like three beers a little. Yeah.

00:25:19:11 - 00:25:37:03
Speaker 1
Yeah. Look, I mean, like, look at this guy. Like, here, I'll pull this one up here again. And so look, I mean, those are fucking huge those gerba or glasses that guys creepy shit.

00:25:37:15 - 00:25:47:03
Speaker 2
I mean, the problem is like, you have to pound that, otherwise your beer is going to be warm as fuck. And then nobody wants to drink warm beer. You know what I mean?

00:25:47:10 - 00:26:07:05
Speaker 1
I think they do pound them, dude. They get fucked up like. So here's, here's what happens when you get too fucked up at Oktoberfest in Munich. So you find yourself on this hill, you're either puking, you're passed out or you're just chillin.

00:26:08:02 - 00:26:11:02
Speaker 2
The vomit hill. Yeah, yeah.

00:26:12:21 - 00:26:21:20
Speaker 1
So but I mean, there's more to Oktoberfest. The girls do this weird shit.

00:26:21:20 - 00:26:26:16
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah. So, yeah.

00:26:27:01 - 00:26:43:13
Speaker 1
Yeah. It's called the Devil's Wheel. So all these chicks are running on to, like, this weird, like, wheel thing on the floor, and it's going to spin around, and they're supposed to try to stay on it, but inertia is going to fucking throw them off eventually and I guess.

00:26:43:13 - 00:26:46:08
Speaker 2
Closer you are to the center though. Yeah. Inertia you have.

00:26:46:13 - 00:26:51:22
Speaker 1
Right, right. The more center of balance you have. Yeah. Or whatever you want to call it.

00:26:52:15 - 00:27:04:16
Speaker 2
I'm sure if I go forces is not real when I say that I'm not. But here. Well think of it this way. So because my dad's an engineer and he taught me this.

00:27:04:16 - 00:27:05:03
Speaker 1
Oh, yeah.

00:27:05:10 - 00:27:30:11
Speaker 2
Centrifugal force isn't a real force. It's just you're being pulled back by or you're being held back by something, right? It's just a linear force, because if you weren't being held back by some type of, like, gravity or something like that or something. Yeah, taming it, you would just fly off in that direction. You're just being flung. All it is is the force of being flung but being contained.

00:27:30:22 - 00:27:40:02
Speaker 2
Yeah. So they call it censure. Censure fugal force. But all it is is just the outward propulsion. Yeah.

00:27:41:22 - 00:27:54:06
Speaker 1
You learn something every day. Yeah. But yeah, I think, like, the whole point is if you're still on the wheel here, you're a chick that should go home with a guy or something like that. And make a baby. I don't know.

00:27:54:14 - 00:28:06:09
Speaker 2
Something like something reminds me of, um. What's that movie? That stupid movie that Zack Snyder did. Rebel Moon.

00:28:06:09 - 00:28:09:21
Speaker 1
Wait. This will remind you of just Rebel Moon in general.

00:28:10:10 - 00:28:11:15
Speaker 2
If you're seen Rebel Moon.

00:28:12:11 - 00:28:13:20
Speaker 1
I mean. Yeah, but I don't.

00:28:13:20 - 00:28:17:13
Speaker 2
Remember, like, some big festival at the very beginning of it and every.

00:28:17:13 - 00:28:18:04
Speaker 1
Kind of remember.

00:28:18:04 - 00:28:20:12
Speaker 2
That everybody better bring tonight.

00:28:21:05 - 00:28:28:03
Speaker 1
Oh, yeah, I know what you're talking about. Well, it's also kind of like Fallout two.

00:28:28:17 - 00:28:30:16
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was weird. Yeah.

00:28:31:00 - 00:28:38:17
Speaker 1
That was weird. Like, Oh, this is a good candidate to have a baby with.

00:28:39:13 - 00:28:39:21
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:28:41:15 - 00:29:13:08
Speaker 1
Yeah. So, yeah, dude, October fest. So I guess, yeah, it ends on October 3rd usually or the first Sunday in October. Yeah. So there's still another week if you want to celebrate it. Hopefully you got a passport. Get yourself to Munich. Otherwise, you know, just get fucking drunk here in the States. I don't know. There's a European person out there that fucking listens to us, so I don't know.

00:29:13:08 - 00:29:18:14
Speaker 1
Why don't you go and tell it right podcast dot com and tell us how you celebrate October Fest.

00:29:18:14 - 00:29:28:02
Speaker 2
But yeah so tell us tell us if it's really all that hype, if it's actually like, cool.

00:29:28:14 - 00:29:33:01
Speaker 1
I just want to go. I want I want to go. I'm going to really I can.

00:29:33:01 - 00:29:40:13
Speaker 2
See where it's where it's an experience, but at the same time, like, it just looks like a fucking hassle. Like, look at that.

00:29:40:17 - 00:29:41:11
Speaker 1
Look at those.

00:29:42:20 - 00:29:43:20
Speaker 2
Things, you know, I.

00:29:43:20 - 00:29:54:09
Speaker 1
Probably would get claustrophobic, especially if weed's legal out there. Holy fuck. Yeah. If I smoked, I'd be like, Oh, I got to get out of here. Yeah, go to a smaller tent, guys.

00:29:55:23 - 00:29:59:08
Speaker 2
Yeah, just being around people sucks like nobody's fun.

00:30:00:18 - 00:30:30:14
Speaker 1
I don't know. I mean, maybe the Germans are actually. It's kind of sounds like they're a lot funnier than us. Just, like. Yeah, like, sticks up our asses there. Just, like, they're just, okay, you're going to be okay. So, um. Yeah, that's October fast, people. All right, well, let's get into it. It's fucking do it, man. Here it is, guys.

00:30:31:13 - 00:30:34:04
Speaker 2
20, 24. The two.

00:30:34:05 - 00:30:43:14
Speaker 1
Thousand, 20, 24 gave us a lot of movies this year. One of them was Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice that just came out. What was it last week or the week before?

00:30:44:04 - 00:30:45:10
Speaker 2
Yeah, a couple of weeks ago.

00:30:45:14 - 00:31:04:17
Speaker 1
A couple of weeks ago, yeah. So Jared and I had the opportunity to watch it. We both have kind of two different views on it. I mean, I, you know, we didn't haven't really discussed it deeply, but we've kind of given a little opinion to it. I agree. And I'm going to probably agree in a lot of parts.

00:31:04:17 - 00:31:28:21
Speaker 1
But I do think there there's a purpose for this. So there's that. But let's get into it. Let's get into the brass tacks. Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice by Tim Burton Starring Michael Keaton, Winona Ryder, Jenna Ortega, Catherine O'Hara and nobody else. Yeah, nobody else.

00:31:29:11 - 00:31:30:16
Speaker 2
Nobody worth talking about.

00:31:31:03 - 00:31:37:07
Speaker 1
Yeah, well, I mean, before we get into opinion. No, no, I'll get an opinion. How about you two?

00:31:37:07 - 00:31:39:09
Speaker 2
Yeah, you go first. I want to.

00:31:39:09 - 00:31:40:08
Speaker 1
Hear me go first.

00:31:42:00 - 00:31:45:23
Speaker 2
Might as well or pessimistic. So I want to hear you. Well, that's why I wanted you to go first.

00:31:45:23 - 00:31:48:19
Speaker 1
So I could kind of. I lighten the mood afterwards.

00:31:49:03 - 00:32:05:20
Speaker 2
All right, all right, all right, all right. So here. Here it is. We've discussed this before with many Rick and Morty. Yeah. Where Dan Harmon always says that character development can ruin a character.

00:32:06:11 - 00:32:32:04
Speaker 1
Now, real quick, before we go a little further on that, I do want to clarify that he he was directly talking about Rick and Morty. So, I mean, so just everybody know character development can be very harmful. And I'm going to go with this. I think it kind of was for this movie. But overall, you really don't have a story without character development.

00:32:32:04 - 00:32:56:12
Speaker 1
You need it to a certain degree. But yeah, with sequels it can get tough. So don't always think that just because there's a sequel, there's character development that's going to be bad. But there there is a there is a time and place where character development is not needed and whatnot. But let's so sorry. I just wanted to throw that out there.

00:32:56:12 - 00:33:04:11
Speaker 2
No, no, it's good to add in there. So. And then this'll. Before we continue on, there's spoilers because I'm going to talk about everything.

00:33:04:13 - 00:33:05:11
Speaker 1
Oh, yeah. Spoilers.

00:33:05:12 - 00:33:35:20
Speaker 2
Have you seen it? Yeah. Watch that on the screen. Okay, spoilers. So I don't want to say it was a money grab, but I thought that the writing was really poor. It's felt really mish mash like like they'd be in one story and then move to another and a part that they thought that they could pause that story in.

00:33:36:03 - 00:34:01:07
Speaker 2
And the fact that there was like four different storylines going on at the same time really just bugged me because we had there's too many conflicts where you had to make peace with this or this and that, and how are you going to move through the story to make that make peace with that with that conflict? And you couldn't develop each story long enough because the movie's only a certain amount of time.

00:34:01:23 - 00:34:24:01
Speaker 2
So I think they should have narrowed that down to like two, two points of conflict and within the whole movie. But I mean, here's what you had from the beginning. You've got Lydia and her boyfriend Guy and her show. You've got thick, you got the dad dying.

00:34:24:05 - 00:34:25:17
Speaker 1
That Rory is his name.

00:34:26:03 - 00:34:48:22
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah. You got the dad dying. So the mom's back in the picture, the step mom's back in the picture. And so you have that whole part of the story developing along the way. Like, that's what brings them all together, which is fine. Yeah Then you've got the then the daughter comes in and she's, you know, part of like her conflict against the mom.

00:34:49:20 - 00:35:09:15
Speaker 2
And then she has a secondary story in there where she, you know, gets in trouble with a ghost guy. And then to top it all off, you've got them giving a back story to where Beetlejuice came from, and that just felt like they just took a shit on that whole storyline. They're like.

00:35:09:18 - 00:35:10:18
Speaker 1
Well, the first.

00:35:10:18 - 00:35:11:19
Speaker 2
Thing you see.

00:35:12:05 - 00:35:12:19
Speaker 1
It was wrong.

00:35:12:20 - 00:35:46:08
Speaker 2
Him. Yeah, but it's like the first thing you see of him and then it doesn't really pan out at all like it. It, it's just kind of a a antagonist throughout. But there wasn't really any development other than it was like a bad ghost person, you know what I mean? So none of the stories like honestly, if they had two storylines going on, I think a good one would have been the whole mother daughter dynamic, you know, trying to, you know, rekindle that.

00:35:46:14 - 00:35:55:19
Speaker 2
And the ghost that takes her daughter down to the underworld. Right. And then bring in Beetlejuice because you need him to help you down there.

00:35:56:04 - 00:35:56:14
Speaker 1
Right.

00:35:57:09 - 00:36:22:17
Speaker 2
Having the his whole thing going on. I like what the one thing I really did like like the one two parts that I liked. One, I liked that he kept on popping up in her imagination like, oh, yeah, I really liked that. That thing. I really liked that. That kid was a ghost that killed his parents. Like, I never even knew that.

00:36:22:18 - 00:36:37:17
Speaker 2
I thought that was kind of a there's those tall tale signs where the parents were looking and shit and you just kind of overlook it because you're thinking about this. The rest. I think that would have been a great thing to kind of make this whole thing about. Right?

00:36:37:17 - 00:36:40:05
Speaker 1
Right.

00:36:40:05 - 00:36:49:10
Speaker 2
And then my actual really favorite part was when that idiot boyfriend guy said Beetlejuice his name and they got sucked into the therapist off the.

00:36:51:08 - 00:36:55:04
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:36:55:04 - 00:37:08:20
Speaker 2
So there's that. And then I will say the one last thing that did kind of bother me about it in the first movie I know it's is comparing and I know Michael Keaton's much older now but.

00:37:09:04 - 00:37:09:13
Speaker 1
Yeah.

00:37:10:22 - 00:37:34:02
Speaker 2
Got Beetlejuice was quick in like on the spot and like pop in back back you know like quipping off stuff and like being funny and this and that and this. He just felt old and slow, you know, like he's making jokes, but the jokes just took forever to kind of pan out. And that stupid musical at the end of the movie that that was like 18 minutes, way too long.

00:37:34:05 - 00:37:44:21
Speaker 2
Like, I'm sorry. Like, you were just this was a filler to make the movie longer because you couldn't write a good story and you had four of them to do so. There's mine. I'll stop there.

00:37:45:14 - 00:38:07:02
Speaker 1
Okay. No, no. You know, I don't think that was actually entirely negative. I think that's kind of where I was going with a lot of things. I think there was some potential in there. I don't think, like it should have been something that we shouldn't have done. You know, I think it's kind of cool to bring back some of these stories.

00:38:07:22 - 00:38:29:22
Speaker 1
But yeah, and I agree with you, it was kind of overdone and that's kind of the consensus with a lot of other people, too. There's too many subplots. So, yeah, like you said, you're kind of jumping over a bunch of different stories. Mean if Catherine O'Hara had her own fucking journey, she was going on, and then Lydia had her own journey, and then so did Astrid, you know.

00:38:30:06 - 00:39:03:19
Speaker 1
But then somehow they all collide. But. But really, like, only the only two that really collide back with each other is Lydia. And Austria's storylines here because. Yeah, because obviously what happens to Catherine O'Hara later on in the movie and all that, like she watches her journey, right? Her journey to be there. Well, my issue with it was, is like, all right, this should have been done this this needed to be done, but this should have been done in the later nineties.

00:39:03:19 - 00:39:30:09
Speaker 1
This shouldn't have dragged out 30 fucking years, or it should have happened in like the turn of the century at 2000 or something like that. Because you really needed Alec. I really think you still needed the two. Alec and Gina Davis to Alec Baldwin and Gina Davis. But the problem with today here is we know why fucking Alec Baldwin wasn't in this, because he's got his own fucking safety issues that nobody wants to fucking deal with right now.

00:39:31:01 - 00:39:40:19
Speaker 1
I think Jeffrey. Jeffrey Jones is still alive, right? I'm pretty sure he's still alive. I, I think fuck's Jeffrey Jones. He's the guy that played the dead in.

00:39:41:05 - 00:39:43:07
Speaker 2
Oh, yeah, he's alive. I think he might be in jail.

00:39:43:21 - 00:39:53:11
Speaker 1
Yeah, he's a pedophile, so he's not coming back. And then, I don't know if Geena Davis is still alive, but it doesn't make sense to have her fucking come back. You're not going to bring.

00:39:53:12 - 00:39:55:02
Speaker 2
Well, there's all like you can't.

00:39:56:01 - 00:39:56:10
Speaker 1
Right?

00:39:56:11 - 00:40:03:02
Speaker 2
You can't take them. And they're old now and then make them into ghosts that shouldn't be aging more than what you know.

00:40:03:17 - 00:40:04:10
Speaker 1
Exactly.

00:40:04:11 - 00:40:06:18
Speaker 2
I agree with you're going to show me an old ghost.

00:40:06:18 - 00:40:31:03
Speaker 1
Like the only reason why this works is because. So I agree. Yeah. The actual character Beetlejuice was kind of a little slower and whatnot, but how he looked, it's not really that much different than 1980. Honestly. Maybe. Yeah, maybe they gave.

00:40:31:03 - 00:40:35:01
Speaker 2
Him a plug. I mean, yeah, he the look was fine.

00:40:35:18 - 00:40:36:16
Speaker 1
Exactly. Yeah.

00:40:36:16 - 00:40:38:22
Speaker 2
The speed of the delivery and and.

00:40:38:22 - 00:40:58:20
Speaker 1
That's why that works, because that's why we were like, we're going to do this because it makes sense, because we can make Michael look like he did in 1980. It doesn't really fucking matter because we're going to put so much fucking makeup on them. And then Wynona is now in her fifties so we can make her look like her late forties, whatever.

00:40:59:06 - 00:41:13:23
Speaker 1
We can make her, you know, look like a mother. But I want to tell you what you compare her to from this. The stranger things. She is way hotter in fucking Beetlejuice for show.

00:41:13:23 - 00:41:18:18
Speaker 2
She's really hot. Like, have you seen the movie, Mr. Deeds?

00:41:19:18 - 00:41:20:06
Speaker 1
Yeah.

00:41:20:19 - 00:41:22:16
Speaker 2
Yeah, she's pretty decent there.

00:41:22:22 - 00:41:27:22
Speaker 1
Yeah, well, that's her younger years, but like I'm talking about right now, I mean, if you compare.

00:41:28:03 - 00:41:28:23
Speaker 2
It was like.

00:41:30:14 - 00:41:32:10
Speaker 1
Yeah, it was. It was over ten years ago.

00:41:33:04 - 00:41:33:21
Speaker 2
Oh yeah.

00:41:34:02 - 00:41:35:08
Speaker 1
What happens in four years.

00:41:35:11 - 00:41:37:23
Speaker 2
That you saw Facebook?

00:41:37:23 - 00:41:48:06
Speaker 1
I saw a Facebook today, a guy who four years ago was like £500. Now he's like fucking buck 80, fucking bench press and fucking.

00:41:48:22 - 00:41:59:22
Speaker 2
Chicks or Mr. Days was 22. So that was art. That's like almost 20. Yeah, dude, she was a child. She could have been perfect right then.

00:41:59:23 - 00:42:05:12
Speaker 1
She was in her twenties. 30, 20, 30. Yeah. Yeah.

00:42:06:00 - 00:42:07:21
Speaker 2
30 years old. Yeah.

00:42:08:12 - 00:42:19:03
Speaker 1
Yeah. But like I'm saying, if you compared Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice to fucking stranger things like they really made her look like in stranger things really.

00:42:19:03 - 00:42:19:23
Speaker 2
Like, oh.

00:42:20:03 - 00:42:21:11
Speaker 1
Yeah. Of fucking old.

00:42:21:18 - 00:42:22:01
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:42:22:12 - 00:42:50:05
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. So, so what else here. Yeah. So you hit it on the hammer at the end of the movie with the stupid fucking musical. Because here's what I'm going to say. That whole movie I felt Tim Burton was holding. Very true. So this is why I was trying to come on a more positive note on this, because I felt that Tim Burton held very true to a lot of his effects even in the beginning.

00:42:50:06 - 00:42:59:08
Speaker 2
Like I love when they said that they did a lot of practical effects. They called them. Yeah, like real. They wouldn't do a lot of CGI or anything.

00:42:59:12 - 00:43:00:02
Speaker 1
Well, right.

00:43:00:03 - 00:43:03:16
Speaker 2
Like did somebody commented on that like. Yeah.

00:43:04:02 - 00:43:24:08
Speaker 1
Well, like the beginning. Okay. Where the beginning. He does this. He's done this in all of his movies like Edward Scissorhands and then the other Beetlejuice two and, and whatnot. But he takes he they build a model city and then they they take the camera and they paint through it. But the way they paint through it, the speed that they go at it, it tricks you.

00:43:24:08 - 00:43:55:20
Speaker 1
Then it's, it's pretty good. And like, I'm just like, I'm, you know, I'm sensitive to that nowadays. So when I was sitting there, I was at first thinking it was like a CGI type thing. But then I started really, I'm like, Oh no, these are, these are models because then the camera kind of slows up and stuff. But yeah, no, I mean, he I still felt like he held true to his, his art art style, his street or, you know, his background effects and stuff.

00:43:57:05 - 00:44:21:11
Speaker 2
And just, you know what? It just, you know what it felt like? It felt like this was written by a guy. And that's why the stories didn't have like they put it into like a chat. GTP Yeah, or whatever. GPT three and they were like Beetlejuice back to life probably. And I like it because there's no cohesion. It was just, just those four stories.

00:44:21:16 - 00:44:33:18
Speaker 2
And on top of that, Willem Dafoe that whole. Yeah, so there was just so much they could have done with this that well made it so much better.

00:44:34:16 - 00:45:03:09
Speaker 1
Okay, I guess I can't explain like how I feel about this. Those parts, I guess when I compare it to Beetlejuice, remember there was Juno, right? That old lady with that raspy voice, you know, and my in obviously like the they pull it like the the the world of the dead is just another bureaucracy. You got to fucking deal with, you know?

00:45:03:22 - 00:45:30:16
Speaker 1
Yeah. So, like, that was cool, right? But like this one, it just like it seemed like more goofball than anything, right? Not that Beetlejuice isn't a goofball movie, but like Beetlejuice, the original one was, it was like, I feel like the goofball shit was to a minimum. Well, it was like it was.

00:45:30:18 - 00:45:31:00
Speaker 2
It was.

00:45:31:13 - 00:45:45:03
Speaker 1
Campy. That's what it is. Campy. It was like this was more like campy were like so campy is like that. Overexaggerated seriousness, you know, like it's like, all.

00:45:45:03 - 00:46:14:23
Speaker 2
Right, made it. He made it like a horror movie. I'll. I'll explain why. Yeah. So in a horror movie, you have serious points and points of tension building, right? Right. And then you come in and you have comedy to bring the tension, and then you get back again and then you break like at the very end of Beetlejuice where, you know, or OZO or whatever his name is, he's like bringing them back to life or they're dying and they're like, Stop it, stop.

00:46:14:23 - 00:46:22:13
Speaker 2
And it's not. And then Beetlejuice comes out and he's like, Yeah, just breaks that tension because you're laughing because he's doing weird shit and.

00:46:22:16 - 00:46:23:12
Speaker 1
Right, right, right.

00:46:23:15 - 00:46:47:17
Speaker 2
That type of thing where. So that's how they actually write horror movies. So that's why if you ever notice, they'll be like a, a comedic Yeah. Person in there somewhere, like the pothead guy. Oh, he's going to break, you know, he's going to go do this and say something funny and it breaks the tension. And, you know, so Tim Burton's movies are always been very, very weird.

00:46:48:08 - 00:46:57:19
Speaker 2
Yeah, Beetlejuice was written like a scary movie, but just not going the full on like scary.

00:46:58:10 - 00:47:00:09
Speaker 1
Right No, and I agree with that too.

00:47:00:09 - 00:47:01:02
Speaker 2
The first one.

00:47:02:10 - 00:47:15:19
Speaker 1
This second one didn't seem like that. It seemed more like just a regular comedy. Yeah, there's a comedy that had a gothic theme to it. I don't.

00:47:15:19 - 00:47:17:17
Speaker 2
Know if you could even say that it wasn't.

00:47:17:19 - 00:47:41:02
Speaker 1
Right. No, I agree. Yeah, like, I don't know, it. Just like it. Maybe it's because we expected it, you know, maybe because we've already been through Beetlejuice. So now we know what kind of like what's going to happen. We know like some kind of issues are going to happen that's going to be required to bring back Beetlejuice, you know.

00:47:41:02 - 00:47:41:10
Speaker 1
Yeah.

00:47:42:01 - 00:47:52:21
Speaker 2
So I think what the weird part is like, yeah, I know we're more observing harsh on movies because we look for certain things and we.

00:47:53:15 - 00:47:54:00
Speaker 1
Write.

00:47:54:11 - 00:48:19:08
Speaker 2
Some somewhat. I can say we studied filmography stuff, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, like I probably know more about writing and stuff than the average normal person, you know, and how they develop storylines and this and that you probably right than I do. But at the same time, a normal person goes in there with the entertainment factor in their mind and not nit picking the little bullshit.

00:48:19:15 - 00:48:21:10
Speaker 1
Right? Yeah. They don't analyze it.

00:48:21:13 - 00:48:32:01
Speaker 2
Yeah. My daughter loved them. She thought it was funny. She liked it. Laura thought it was a good movie. I mean, I can't say it was a terrible movie. It just. There's a lot of mess to it.

00:48:32:17 - 00:48:33:05
Speaker 1
Yeah.

00:48:34:03 - 00:48:35:02
Speaker 2
No, I mean, the thing that.

00:48:35:19 - 00:48:36:18
Speaker 1
Yeah. No, I'm sorry. Go on.

00:48:37:13 - 00:48:54:08
Speaker 2
The one thing that I really hate nowadays, too, everything's filmed in really good clear like 48k and it kind of takes away from the whole feel of a movie anymore. I don't know. Yeah, I feel the same way. It just doesn't feel like a movie when you're watching it.

00:48:54:14 - 00:49:02:21
Speaker 1
Well, here's what I'll say. So remember when Beetlejuice spun his head around in. In this this last movie?

00:49:03:17 - 00:49:04:00
Speaker 2
Mm hmm.

00:49:05:02 - 00:49:17:15
Speaker 1
That right there was kind of like something that clicked with me where it was like, that wasn't so cool because it was not like the 1980s where it was so, like, chopped up and.

00:49:17:16 - 00:49:18:13
Speaker 2
Cartoony.

00:49:18:14 - 00:49:48:21
Speaker 1
Yeah, right. It worked. It looked real. And I wasn't impressed by you know what I mean. And so, like, that's what kind of sucks with this new technology. Yeah, no, because I'm like, totally somebody that would love to write a movie, but film it with the, the equipment that it was available in like 1980. But I feel like, yeah, you can't do that because there's just too much other equipment that's going to process it and make it.

00:49:49:05 - 00:49:53:08
Speaker 1
Well, you actually have to like put in a filter, you know what I mean?

00:49:54:06 - 00:50:06:03
Speaker 2
Yeah. I mean, a lot of the problem is because they can film digital and all this and that, it's probably cheaper to process a movie that way than it would be to put it on tape and you know, all this and that.

00:50:06:22 - 00:50:27:05
Speaker 1
Oh, my God, the cast. I don't know how they cut shit back in the day, dude. Like, they literally had to like. Yeah, cut it. And that, like, they had these huge machines and then I just was like, Dude, I can do that all on a laptop. Like, I don't need to be called a fucking sound engineer or anything to do it.

00:50:27:12 - 00:50:47:13
Speaker 1
I think it's just so yeah. You know, I mean, like, you know, you look at it and you see like what needs to be done and you understand some basic tools. Like it's not hard, you know, like when I look at, when I edit this, I look for gaps in our audio. That's like the first thing I do.

00:50:47:14 - 00:51:01:10
Speaker 1
If I see gaps in the audio, I cut that and like, I don't even need to actually listen to it necessarily. I just gotta cut it. And sometimes I'll listen to it after it, cut it and then like sometimes it's.

00:51:01:10 - 00:51:02:20
Speaker 2
Weird where it's like.

00:51:02:20 - 00:51:26:11
Speaker 1
Oh no, we need that fucking space there, dude. Yeah, like other times. But for the most part, yeah. Like, you can just see your fucking gaps and you can cut them because there's a tool that's literally a fucking razor blade is the icon. So what does that mean? It means cut, you know. So, yeah, you just click two spots and now you got something you can delete.

00:51:27:03 - 00:51:56:12
Speaker 1
And then you've really got to like right click and all sudden everything fucking just jumps back and now everything's lined up again and there's no gap anymore. So it's like, really easy. Like, that's why I, like so many people, can make online content right now. Like, dude, average people can make movies. I mean, like, they can make them better than like a fucking high school, you know, project or something like that.

00:51:57:01 - 00:52:00:06
Speaker 1
The tools are so fucking there and available.

00:52:01:07 - 00:52:08:04
Speaker 2
On your phone. I mean your phone, yeah. Essentially the editing capabilities, I mean, you can basically take.

00:52:08:06 - 00:52:10:05
Speaker 1
It's tedious though.

00:52:10:05 - 00:52:24:05
Speaker 2
Tedious. Yeah. But I mean you can sit there and take and I mean most of us tedious as that is on a phone. Yeah. And take that same app and work it on your laptop or on your computer. Yeah.

00:52:24:19 - 00:52:56:10
Speaker 1
Yeah. But um. Yeah, it's. It's fucking wild. Here's what I did want to say, though. So you had mentioned something about writing in this movie, and. No, you're absolutely right there. They made a big fucking mistake. So in regular Beetlejuice, they explained that if you commit suicide, you are deemed a public service the rest of your life. Mm hmm.

00:52:56:12 - 00:53:22:01
Speaker 1
Right. Beetlejuice was Juno's assistant, which means he was in public service, so they didn't really that story back then. But that was mentioned back then. That was said. So technically this whole movie is yeah, if there's no continuity with Beetlejuice, it's technically a different universe now because.

00:53:22:10 - 00:53:27:20
Speaker 2
He was doing public service of it was like, yeah, business or whatever. All right.

00:53:29:21 - 00:53:39:01
Speaker 1
But he didn't commit suicide. He was murdered. They showed that, like, you know what I mean? That chick gave him the poison and he died.

00:53:39:01 - 00:53:44:12
Speaker 2
He took it, you know? I mean, he's the one. Yeah.

00:53:44:12 - 00:53:46:10
Speaker 1
I mean, where you want to be like.

00:53:46:13 - 00:53:51:22
Speaker 2
Yeah, so where do you draw the line? I mean, you didn't know, but you're the one who committed it.

00:53:51:22 - 00:54:04:19
Speaker 1
No. Where you draw the line is some pitch. Knowing that what she was giving them was poison gave it to him. He thought they were having fucking champagne. He had no idea. And so he drank it and then he died.

00:54:06:01 - 00:54:06:06
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:54:07:20 - 00:54:10:05
Speaker 1
I mean, so that's what I'm saying.

00:54:10:05 - 00:54:19:04
Speaker 2
I don't. There has to be lack of knowledge for it because it's like you hand a gun to somebody and they shoot themselves. They knew that that would hit home.

00:54:19:04 - 00:54:21:16
Speaker 1
My fucking God, dude, bro.

00:54:22:00 - 00:54:33:11
Speaker 2
Oh, I've said no. This is fucking bear. If you had them a glass of poisoned wine and they drink it, that's the same thing is is I didn't.

00:54:33:19 - 00:54:34:04
Speaker 1
Okay.

00:54:34:04 - 00:54:34:21
Speaker 2
It in their mouth.

00:54:34:23 - 00:54:58:16
Speaker 1
If you say if you hand them a glass of poisoned wine and go, hey, this is poison wine and they fucking drink it, yeah, that's suicide. But if you're not setting an expectation on what you're giving and people are assuming that it's just fucking, you know, whatever, like alcohol or some kind of drink that doesn't kill you. Yeah.

00:54:58:17 - 00:55:12:16
Speaker 1
I mean, that's that's pretty much murder. So that's all I'm saying is. Yeah, they really fucked the pooch on that one. They, they didn't really hold true to that. So I guess what it comes down to is they've come up with a new rating system.

00:55:12:22 - 00:55:13:17
Speaker 2
We are a.

00:55:14:10 - 00:55:40:11
Speaker 1
ABC and F fucking rating system. So obviously A is awesome. We love it. We would see it a million times and definitely recommend it to everybody. I would say B is, it's an all right movie. It's not the best. You're probably not going to watch it a whole lot ever again. It's entertaining. It's an interview. Yeah, it's an entertaining movie.

00:55:41:22 - 00:56:04:14
Speaker 1
See, it's just God, you know, it's I would say C is like, All right, I watched it get the fuck away from me sort of thing. In Athens, I regret my life, so I don't know if that's really realistic. Maybe. Maybe it should just be a belief to get rid of it.

00:56:05:10 - 00:56:15:02
Speaker 2
Yeah. Now, see, it's just either it was mediocre or whatever, it was good, go see it or this is a flop. F Yeah.

00:56:16:01 - 00:56:20:08
Speaker 1
So well I think there should be the B in there though, you know. Yeah.

00:56:20:11 - 00:56:28:02
Speaker 2
B B is yeah. Yeah. The middle ground. Right. Okay. That's probably where I put this movie.

00:56:28:19 - 00:56:35:20
Speaker 1
Right. Yeah. And I, I'm going to, I'm going to go B to. Yeah, it, it's mediocre, it's yeah.

00:56:35:20 - 00:56:47:20
Speaker 2
You're going to want to see it because you just, you're going to have to experience for yourself. But it's not something that I'm going to watch regularly. Like regular the first Beetlejuice. Like I'll watch that all the time know. Right? Yeah.

00:56:48:03 - 00:56:57:16
Speaker 1
I'll probably watch regular Beetlejuice every Halloween you know sort of deal. But I'm not going to I don't know, maybe I go jump into Beetlejuice.

00:56:57:16 - 00:57:09:22
Speaker 2
Beetlejuice when this is like out I'll probably watch it on some type of streaming. Yeah. But that's about the extent that it's going to go like I'm not paying money for it again, that's for sure.

00:57:09:22 - 00:57:27:22
Speaker 1
I'm not giving them any more fucking money for this. Yeah. So yeah, yeah. But I yeah, yeah. Beetlejuice, Tim Burton. Not all that bad, but don't expect to see, you know, something that tops Beetlejuice. That's I guess that's how I would want to put it.

00:57:28:17 - 00:57:30:00
Speaker 2
Also one side note.

00:57:30:12 - 00:57:31:13
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah. Let's hear it.

00:57:32:20 - 00:57:36:11
Speaker 2
Jenna Ortega It's pretty hot.

00:57:37:03 - 00:57:38:16
Speaker 1
Isn't she like fucking.

00:57:39:09 - 00:57:40:10
Speaker 2
622.

00:57:40:21 - 00:57:43:21
Speaker 1
Oh, okay. All right, you're safe.

00:57:45:05 - 00:57:47:18
Speaker 2
Yeah. See, I'm not a fucking.

00:57:48:07 - 00:57:48:22
Speaker 1
I'm on. If I.

00:57:48:22 - 00:57:49:13
Speaker 2
Thought that.

00:57:49:22 - 00:58:05:15
Speaker 1
I won't have to call the pedo squad. Oh, yeah. Her relationship with their fucking stepdad that stuff that you, you, that guy shouldn't have been in there. It shouldn't have been Wynona Fucking single mom. Reason It's a chick that hates her.

00:58:05:15 - 00:58:15:23
Speaker 2
Yeah, that dude with with all the fish on him, that was just dumb. Like he was trying to be comedic, too, and that's okay. One last thing. Kind of. Yeah, I went over, but here.

00:58:16:20 - 00:58:17:08
Speaker 1
Now we're good.

00:58:17:08 - 00:58:44:23
Speaker 2
The lack the lack of emotion towards the entire situation. So what I mean by that is in the first movie, when like the two died and they, you know, they were realizing everything and they were like, this is insane, you know, like we didn't know there's an afterlife, you know? Alec Baldwin.

00:58:45:19 - 00:58:46:12
Speaker 1
Right, right, right.

00:58:46:16 - 00:58:47:15
Speaker 2
And the first and the first.

00:58:48:05 - 00:58:48:14
Speaker 1
Yeah.

00:58:48:23 - 00:59:09:02
Speaker 2
And, you know, even going into the you know, you got to knock on the door, you know, this isn't going to the service counter. Like everything was very surprising to them. Yeah, new and scary. And like, hey, how are we going to get through? Like, when they came to this movie, everybody just seemed like nonchalant about the afterlife or death.

00:59:09:11 - 00:59:34:07
Speaker 2
Oh, you like the mom set? Mom died. Oh, you died? Oh, no. What's going to happen? You know, that sucks. Oh, I'm going to just move on with my life. But, like, yeah, you're like you. The dad dies and you're not crying about it. And I mean, I get it. There's they've been through whatever they have, whatever PTSD from the situation but but really.

00:59:34:11 - 00:59:35:13
Speaker 1
Yeah no I'm sorry one.

00:59:36:01 - 00:59:43:08
Speaker 2
There is just no emotion towards it and nothing seemed surprising about it, which made it feel less real.

00:59:43:08 - 00:59:56:22
Speaker 1
Yeah. And you know, what I want to say is with Catherine O'Hara, I think the only reason she kind of was in this is because of what she recently did, which shifts creek. You ever see that show?

00:59:58:08 - 01:00:00:02
Speaker 2
No, I know. I've seen.

01:00:00:04 - 01:00:26:06
Speaker 1
Yeah, I've seen a few episodes and she's the same character. Um, she's the same character as Delia Deetz, essentially. But instead, she's a movie or like, kind of like a washed up movie star or actress, you know, like she was, she was popular back in the early nineties, but now in like the later 2000, she's, you know, kind of hasn't been seen in the public spotlight.

01:00:26:06 - 01:00:52:09
Speaker 1
And, you know, now she's trying to get back into it because they're poor and all that shit. Mm hmm. That's kind of like how Delia Deetz is. You know, first one, they come to this old house in the middle of a farm country, and she it's not up to her standard. And she's like, this woke ass fuckin artist and all this, and she has high standards and all this other crap, you know what I mean?

01:00:52:22 - 01:01:12:22
Speaker 1
So I. Yeah, I don't know. I kind of feel like it was just like, oh, Catherine just did Shifts Creek and, you know, so character's kind of still like, it's alive and yeah and yeah, you know, but, you know, we didn't even talk about Beetlejuice his wife like the only.

01:01:13:00 - 01:01:14:01
Speaker 2
It's just gotten worse.

01:01:14:12 - 01:01:34:05
Speaker 1
Right? The only positive thing I can say about that is it's like I kind of felt like Tim Burton was taking an old character and making it live action like it felt like a nightmare before Christmas character, you know, because there was the chick that had all the stitches in her face. But it didn't look quite like that.

01:01:34:05 - 01:01:34:20
Speaker 1
But like.

01:01:35:00 - 01:01:35:11
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01:01:35:16 - 01:01:36:20
Speaker 1
Once I kind of saw.

01:01:36:20 - 01:01:38:18
Speaker 2
It on my live action version.

01:01:39:05 - 01:02:03:06
Speaker 1
Yeah, I'm like, This could be a live action version of that to some degree. You know, obviously it's much different because I think that other chick had like different hair wasn't brown or dark brown. Yeah, not so. Um, but yeah. All right, well, well, let's end it on that, everybody. Hey, we're fucking glad you guys came out today.

01:02:04:10 - 01:02:07:00
Speaker 1
I'm ecstatic. I know what Gerard is, too.

01:02:07:04 - 01:02:09:19
Speaker 2
Yeah, but I see it in my face.

01:02:09:19 - 01:02:33:04
Speaker 1
Yeah. When this release is, it's going to be the last weekend of October, so you better fucking get your drink on and get your, your wiener schnitzels and your fucking chicken and your your big beers and your wieners. Hot dogs are included too. And if you're in Chicago area beef, that's fucking from Austria, you little motherfuckers in Austria.

01:02:33:15 - 01:02:50:22
Speaker 1
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01:02:51:18 - 01:02:52:13
Speaker 2
Yeah, sure.

01:02:52:23 - 01:03:05:21
Speaker 1
Yeah, sure, sure. But everybody have yourself a great day and we will be back next week for episode 84. So peace.