Episode 86 - Tell it Right - Mike & Jared Top Halloween Movie Picks

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Mike and Jared recollects old Halloween episodes.

Mike talks about haunted Jerome AZ

Jared & Mike top Halloween Movie picks

Transcript

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Speaker 1
All right. Welcome to episode 86. Tell it right. We are the podcast that never quits. I am Mike. This is Jared. We are your hosts. First time listeners hit that subscribe button. Longtime listeners, thank you for your support. Happy fucking Halloween, everybody who.

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Speaker 2
Is the Queen of Halloween?

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Speaker 1
The Queen of Hallows. The spirits are flying. Yeah. Don't. Don't fucking yawn.

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Speaker 2
They got their wieners up.

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Speaker 1
Yeah.

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Speaker 2
That's why it's Halloween.

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Speaker 1
Halloween? The ghosts. They're pins in your mouth.

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Speaker 1
I thought I can make that rhyme, but I couldn't. I was.

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Speaker 2
Terrible. No.

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Speaker 1
That is some terrible rhyming right there.

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Speaker 2
Well, in all the poets.

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Speaker 1
It's actually called illiteracy is what it's called. So. But fucking ed, dude. Yeah. Yeah. Was this our third Halloween here? So in the past, we've talked about trunk or treat to haunted places. We've even. We've even gone to haunted places.

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Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1
And we did the bachelor's grove last year.

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Speaker 2
Mm hmm. Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1
So nothing weird happened there? No.

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Speaker 2
The fact that there was that many people there, like, just in the middle of the day. Yeah, it's just kind of weird.

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Speaker 1
Well, I just remember in high school, I can't remember if in high school, if you were actually allowed during the day. I just always heard you were banned from like nobody would go there, like, if you tried to. The cops went after you. But I think the truth was you couldn't go there at night, actually. Was it otherwise?

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Speaker 1
It was an open, open park during the day. Yeah, literally. But, um, but yeah, with the fatwa, we also talked about that Bodie place out there in the Sierra Nevadas in California.

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Speaker 2
Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1
That was a fucking wild one where it just basically was the guy that was the he was trying to gold mine. His name was Bodie. And I guess it was just like a whole greedy thing where people are trying to backstab each other in like a big fucking storm came and they froze to death. And like they say, his, his spirit like curses the land.

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Speaker 1
And so like it was a boom town that died out. But it's been like preserved in, like the the Sierra Nevada mountains. Like the the buildings are still like standing and like maybe there was broken windows. Other than that, everything was still in pristine condition because it's such a I don't I don't know. I know, like, the winters can be nasty, but apparently everything was preserved.

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Speaker 1
It was pretty fucking wild. But then, like, also the state does trying to remodel and preserve it as well because there were like dilapidated buildings. But other than that, like that town is pretty fucking much like left in place as it was abandoned.

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Speaker 2
Um. When you heard Bodie, you mean like. Oh, do you like from point break?

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Speaker 1
Yeah, I think everybody.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, something like that.

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Speaker 1
Yeah. Bodie Town is what it's called.

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Speaker 2
Yeah.

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Speaker 1
Yeah. Never take anything there. You'll be haunted because Bodie is one greedy motherfucker, and he does not want to share his treasure with anybody. So there is that. And then I this year, when I went to Arizona, I went to Jerome. That's another fucking weird place, another haunted ghost town. But it's a town that's redeveloping. Yeah. Jerome is a place where people are actually living and whatnot.

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Speaker 1
It was an old mining town. It's like up in the mountains, very remote place, you know, compared to where where it was at at the time. Um, just a very nasty place though. Like pretty much you didn't have a long life expectancy if you were living there. You're a miner. You probably got drunk every night. And if you lived, you lived.

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Speaker 1
Otherwise you probably got shot or you died of alcohol poisoning or you died of some accident on the job or whatever. But like, this was a town of like 15,000 people back in like the mid, mid to late 1800s. And once it once it dried up, it dried up. And everybody dispersed and it became a ghost town. But what's creepy about that places people that died, they had nowhere to put them.

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Speaker 1
So they cremated them and made them into concrete.

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Speaker 2
So that makes sense.

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Speaker 1
Yeah. So the the spirit of Jerome or the spirits of Jerome are within the sidewalks and, uh, the stairs, the concrete stairs. They go up and down the hillsides. So it's so weird. Weird thing. But hey, what's his name? I mean, or Keaton, whatever, from Toulon to fucking winery out there. So.

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Speaker 2
I mean, I'm pretty positive. And this is going off of a complete factual representation from playing the game, the Oregon Trail. I'm pretty sure that everybody pre like 1905 died of dysentery. Like, no matter what, no matter what it was, even if they died by gunshot, it was dysentery.

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Speaker 1
Even if they had diabetes, it was dysentery. Yeah.

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Speaker 2
Exactly. They all just had dysentery. I mean, it that's the only thing I've ever learned from playing or not. True. Yeah. Yeah. So. Or they drowned. You know how many people drowned in shallow water, like, back in the day? Like, I'm sure a lot of amount of people. Like, there was.

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Speaker 1
There probably.

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Speaker 2
Forgot what it was that was like over in Shannon. There's like this measure of people that died in a river and the river was only like three or five feet deep, but people couldn't swim.

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Speaker 1
And they just got sucked by the river. I guess I stand up. I can't swim. Stand up. Yeah.

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Speaker 2
But even if they drown that dysentery.

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Speaker 1
So cause of death. Dysentery and that. I seriously saw him drown. He drowned, sir. No, he died of dysentery.

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Speaker 2
His ship himself. He. He he did not have enough. He did not have enough strength to swim. So the root cause of this was dysentery, sir.

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Speaker 1
He had no hands. He could not swim, couldn't even use it. He could. He had no hands and no legs. Couldn't swim.

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Speaker 2
It's so weird. Like, haunted places. Like, why do we why do we as people think if somebody died somewhere, that it's a automatically a haunted place?

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Speaker 1
Well, it's not necessarily that. It's like there has to be like some kind of account that multiple people have witnessed, some kind of weird thing at one time. Well, no, I mean, like so for instance, let's say maybe they're. Yeah, let's say this building, whatever it is, is haunted. Right. So how do we determine it was haunted? Well, we determined it was haunted because there were people that were within the building that report seeing something or hearing something and feeling something or whatever.

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Speaker 1
And it just like there's consistent reports of, you know, these similar things. So yeah, it's not nice. And then that's when people start doing research and find out, okay, so somebody did die, you know, that, you know, a hundred years ago or 50 years ago or five years ago, you know.

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Speaker 2
Yeah.

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Speaker 1
And whatnot. So I don't think it's necessarily because it's, you know, somebody died in there, it's on it. I mean, I think it's when people start seeing these weird things, whether or not it's ghosts or not, you know, that's when, you know, as a human, you got to start trying to investigate and put things together. Well, once you start seeing a case of somebody died, a lot of people believe their spirit after you die, right?

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Speaker 1
Most religions believe that when you die, you know, there's spirit that leaves your body. So that's kind of that's kind of you know, that's what I think the what do you call it, the premises of figuring out why something on it is what people determine. I mean, yeah.

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Speaker 2
Think of like that. A bunch of like old people's folk songs and shit like that. Like those have to be haunted and like and right. Like hospitals and shit.

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Speaker 1
Well, hospitals are I mean, yeah, there's people that report hospitals that are haunted and stuff. I don't know any particular off the top of my head but like, you know, 13th floor, remember I think we were talking about that a few podcast episodes about how there's never a 13th floor because it's bad luck.

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Speaker 2
It's stupid.

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Speaker 1
Yeah.

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Speaker 2
That's the dumbest thing because then they skipped and got to the 14th floor, which is the 13th floor. Yeah. Just because you don't call it the 13th floor does not mean that it is.

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Speaker 1
Now, I'm not a ghost expert, really. I used to get in the stuff back in the day, but like, I don't understand exactly how it works. Like, you know, is it like, yeah, maybe. Is it like in a hospital if it's kind of like a peaceful place anyways or if it was like a peaceful way of dying? I guess like actually I guess if you base it on many movies, crossing them all together, it's basically like obviously if you die peacefully, you kind of move on.

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Speaker 1
But it's when you don't die peacefully, you're kind of stuck. Now, if we base it off the Swazi movie Ghost, I mean, Swazi was able to go where the fuck you wanted. Yeah, right. So but then there's other movies where it's like, No, you're stuck. You're stuck at the place where you violently died, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2
So the unfinished business of.

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Speaker 1
Yeah.

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Speaker 2
But from Rick and Morty. Yeah there's a, you have to make it so it has unfinished business. But then the unfinished business is it never remembered that gravity existed. So it fell through floors. It's yeah.

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Speaker 1
That's the one. That's the second story. Train one, right. Ah. Where there's all those other like weird superhero type things.

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Speaker 2
I don't think it's, I don't remember off in.

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Speaker 1
Yeah. It wasn't it like. Yeah it was the one where story each story Lord comes back with Jesus.

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Speaker 2
Yeah.

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Speaker 1
And then I heard or was it the one. Oh no. Maybe it was the one where pissed master comes because isn't there a bunch of people that start coming after like Rick out of nowhere. Yeah. And then finally Piss Master comes and then Jerry is the one that fucking handles that one. But I thought like, yeah, like guy Rick lets out that they're fucking crazy guy and then he's the one that takes away the gravity and then the dude continuously falls.

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Speaker 1
Is that or whatever?

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Speaker 2
I don't think so. I thought it was a different.

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Speaker 1
I don't know.

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Speaker 2
I don't know.

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Speaker 1
Fucking a yeah I don't know what exactly. Like I said I'm not really into the ghost stuff anymore. I mean I, I guess I didn't invest in some see the ghost hunting in UFO hunting and I be similar in the fact that like you're looking for like electronic frequency.

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Speaker 2
Oh no, it's the Mr. Poopy Butthole one where they're trying to get him out of the house.

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Speaker 1
Oh, really?

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Speaker 2
In season seven, it's like, yeah, Mr. Poopy butthole and Jean's friends with Hugh Jackman.

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Speaker 1
Yeah, I know which one you're talking about there.

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Speaker 2
Yeah. So I'm going to go take a huge Jackman in the bathroom.

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Speaker 1
No, but yeah. Back to the whole ghost thing like yeah, I don't know, everybody has their own take on it and that's kind of why I'm like, I don't know, you know, I don't know if it's real. What if it's just interdimensional? That's like, why, yeah, I have a theory about, like, ghosts might just be interdimensional, like, multiverse versions of things.

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Speaker 1
So things from subtle universes. In the past, it's like projecting through a tear in the fabric of space and time. So, like, you know, those crackpots that say, see, like a fucking Indian walking through their house, you know, maybe naked. Yeah, you're naked or whatever. But, yeah, like, that's what I'm saying. Like, what if that could be the explanation for that?

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Speaker 1
It's just like it's not there, it's not haunting you. You just happen to be at the right angle where there's a tear in the fabric of the space and time. And this thing is in a different dimension and it's just walking through like it's star, Star Wars hologram, you know? I don't know. But then people report like, I don't know.

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Speaker 1
I see it on like tick tock all the time, but I can't believe it because like, how easy is it to like in the, you know. Oh yeah, it's on video, huh? How many times? You know, you could have just elaborately put that together just to convince anybody that you have, like, some kind of poltergeist thing going on in your house where shit's flickering and all that, like, get out of town.

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Speaker 1
It's not. I don't know. It's just. Yeah, it's, like, hard to prove. That's the one that's hard to prove to. I mean, even the UFO thing is, especially with a I now, I mean, everybody's put it in like shit out. Some shit's really obvious and then some shit's not until like the end of the video and you're like, oh, okay.

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Speaker 1
You know.

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Speaker 2
Yeah.

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Speaker 1
I don't know. So I don't know, man. It's pretty fucking wild, dude.

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Speaker 2
Yeah. I mean, ghosts are weird. It's a weird thing.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, it's. It's like it's the weird thing is, like ghost or one of those things that a lot of people believe. It's almost like UFOs and stuff like, I guess has like, firm proof, but you see shit all the time that you're like, that probably is real, you know what I mean? Like, but nobody has, like, I don't know, for proof, right?

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Speaker 1
No, you're right. I don't know. Like, how how can you prove the slate? You know what I mean? Like, yeah, you got to, like, trap them. Yeah. They're not, like, fucking, like, tangible. And I don't know how you can fucking trip.

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Speaker 2
But again, I mean, it's not even so much that like, so we think of like ghosts as, you know, souls and all this and that, but I mean, really, if you want to like do a scientific aspect of it, like I, I think of it kind of like what you're saying. It's a transfer of energy into a different dimension.

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Speaker 2
It's still you or that that person, but they're like maybe the fifth dimension or something or or it's still part of the universe, but it's just like.

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Speaker 1
I don't even think they're aware of you.

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Speaker 2
Yeah.

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Speaker 1
You know, that's what I'm saying. Like, they're not aware of you. You're aware of it, and, like, you can't really, like, interact with it. You're just that you're objectively observing, you know? Yeah. And if you went up to it, you'd go through it, you know? I don't know. That would be pretty wild. Oh.

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Speaker 2
All right.

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Speaker 1
But, um, yeah, I've never really. I've never seen a ghost like so. Back to Bachelor's Grove. I mean, when I went there in high school, there is some weird shit that happened, but, like, nothing I could, like, prove, you know? Yeah. I mean, things were, like, whizzing around, like, you know, I don't know if it was a I can't remember if it was a 60 year, you know, so maybe the cicadas whizzing around our heads, you know, while you were back there.

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Speaker 1
And, well, I guess cicadas do come out every year. So.

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Speaker 2
Yeah.

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Speaker 1
But I don't know if they come out in October the late there is bats, right? It could've been bats. Could have just been birds, you know, I don't know. But like people reported at bats, this girl that they've seen like this, like cabin appear like back in the woods. I never saw that. Yeah, I never saw any, like, aberration.

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Speaker 1
Is it kind of cool? Kids call it the apparitions.

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Speaker 2
Yeah. So, yeah, I had an experience. I don't know if it was real. Maybe I was just dreaming as I remember it. Yeah, but it was a long time ago. I think people are just messing with me.

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Speaker 1
Yeah, right. And that's what I thought too. Like, I thought, like, maybe somebody. Maybe somebody was clever enough to go out there and do things to kind of try to scare people just to, you know, have fun. Maybe someone did invest in, like, night vision goggles the same time. That's kind of creepy, though, too. Like, what if that's what they did?

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Speaker 1
Yeah, they had night vision goggles and then they were just taking an airsoft gun and just shooting it, you know.

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Speaker 2
Just shoot.

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Speaker 1
It. Well, I'd say.

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Speaker 2
It was time to do that shit.

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Speaker 1
I don't know, like, maybe that's maybe that's what the Cook County Forest Preserve, they maybe that was their idea of trying to keep people out there. So they, they put like they had someone volunteer. It's like an active sniper or something like, here, take this fucking airsoft gun, go out there and kids start walking past this point. Just start shooting across their noses, make them turn around.

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Speaker 2
Sit across the nose up. Yet.

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Speaker 1
But no, I mean, yeah, I don't know. When I went to Western Illinois, there we did. It goes to here too. And that was always like we went to different places around there, downtown area because that that's like an old time, you know, small town, country square or community square sort of thing. So like there's a bunch of old buildings and there's some weird shit, I mean, like I brought a campus with because, you know, and that was the first time I did witness like the campus spin around, but I didn't have video of there cause I didn't have a good phone back.

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Speaker 1
Like I didn't have an iPhone until after I got out of college. So, like 2012. Yeah. So I had nothing really good record with, um, we did take pictures with like a digital camera that we did have and there was some weird stuff in there. I should, I should have went back to try to find this stuff, but I don't know exactly where it saved.

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Speaker 1
Then, um, there is this one part where, like, we were looking at a doorway and it was kind of dark on our side. But like on the other side of the doorway, it had one light on and it was like they appeared that somebody was walking back and forth between the door and that was really weird. But they did open the door and let us go in there and we did see there was nobody in there.

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Speaker 1
So that was another weird thing too. But like, I still feel like there there was room for illusion here, you know, because they had the planet, places, all stuff, you know, reserve for us. I mean, these were they had to get permission to come into these places.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1
Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it was that was weird to her, but it was a cool, fun experience for being in college though, you know? Yeah, but I don't. I can't go walk away from it. Believe in ghosts. Just, you know, just a lot of creepy things for sure. For sure, man. Well, fucking a dude. What was they going to say?

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Speaker 1
So this year, you know, I figure let's just do a fucking movies on. And so like basically what I mean by that is we're just going to talk about our top, top Halloween movies, what to watch for the year. Okay. I mean.

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Speaker 2
Yeah.

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Speaker 1
So you got it's your first number one.

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Speaker 2
So my number one like probably your favorite Halloween movie right now. I'd have to go with the Rob Zombie remake of Halloween.

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Speaker 1
Yeah. So I can't remember if I saw that one. I know. I definitely saw the the Rob Zombie's where he depicts the Manson families.

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Speaker 2
That's the house of a thousand corpses, I think.

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Speaker 1
Yeah, I've seen those. Oh, maybe. Maybe I did see it, but I don't know. This sounds interesting, though.

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Speaker 2
Yeah. So what I like about it is it's got a little bit more of a precursor to the beginning. So, like, remember the original Halloween? It's like, this starts out, he's a kid and he's like his sister's babysitting him or whatever, and he's like.

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Speaker 1
Yeah, right.

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Speaker 2
Whatever. Right. Just takes it a step further or a step back a little bit to the that day that it happened. And then it takes it a little bit further past that day. Well, he's in like a mental ward, so it kind of gives them a little bit of character development, which, you know, although that character development kind of ruins it.

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Speaker 2
But at the same time, it actually did a really good job of tell it. Yeah. So like it starts out like the day when he's like in a really abusive family is stepdad or whatever and his mom's a stripper and they're just in this really shitty house. And so like, he's already got issues and he goes into school and there's bullies and this and that and he ends up like following his bully home and like beating him to death with a stick.

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Speaker 2
Like, you're a freak and then comes home and it's Halloween, and he dresses up and goes trick or treating or whatnot and then kills everybody else in the family, too. He killed the stepdad or his sister's boyfriend and the sister, and he just left the one daughter, the baby alive. And then the mom comes home and finds all these dead.

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Speaker 2
And then it goes into like Loomis, who is the his doctor and the guy in the original movie. Yeah. Like after him, it goes how he was treating him as a kid and all this. That's how he was trying to help them. And you know, he ends up killing a nurse in the movie and like how he developed is like wanting to wear masks and stuff all the time.

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Speaker 2
He was like making masks in the mental wards.

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Speaker 1
Yes. Okay. I think I did see this one.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:26:33:12 - 00:26:44:14
Speaker 1
So there's a lot of there is a lot of humanistic parts to them. There was. Yeah. You feel bad for them and like yeah. You kind of want him to pull through here.

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Speaker 2
Yeah. But then you watch him turn into a monster. Yeah. What's his face from? Machete. Danny Trejo is like his caretaker. Like the janitor guy.

00:26:57:01 - 00:26:57:13
Speaker 1
Yeah.

00:26:58:08 - 00:27:13:12
Speaker 2
That he kills him and like. Yeah. So I think that, like, not only the gore but the storytelling in that I think, you know, tastic for a remake. It was a really, really good one and it's just a good all right movie for for like a scary movie.

00:27:14:21 - 00:27:16:02
Speaker 1
So yeah.

00:27:16:02 - 00:27:17:12
Speaker 2
That's that's my number one.

00:27:18:01 - 00:27:21:20
Speaker 1
Okay, so you ready to hear my number one?

00:27:22:01 - 00:27:22:18
Speaker 2
Yeah. Let's see if.

00:27:22:23 - 00:27:36:11
Speaker 1
It's going to fucking blow your fucking mind. It's going to blow your fucking mind. All right? And I want you to hear me out when I say this, because this is really going to it is going to spark a fucking controversy here, what I'm about to say.

00:27:36:23 - 00:27:37:12
Speaker 2
Let's hear.

00:27:38:01 - 00:27:40:02
Speaker 1
The Blair Witch Project.

00:27:40:15 - 00:27:40:19
Speaker 2
And.

00:27:41:12 - 00:27:42:08
Speaker 1
Hear me out. So.

00:27:43:04 - 00:27:44:11
Speaker 2
All right, I'm really hearing it.

00:27:44:16 - 00:28:13:00
Speaker 1
This is my favorite, okay? Because I watched it last night. It I saw this when I was a kid, too, when it first came out in 99 or whenever. And back then, I was terrified of it. I thought it was real because. Did I pay attention to the news? No, I just bought into the fucking aggressive marketing that made you feel like it was a real fucking movie and I was like, scared anyways.

00:28:14:05 - 00:28:43:21
Speaker 1
I think it's a terrible horror movie, actually. It is a terrible horror movie, to be honest. And the reason for it is it's just like there's it's just a terrible story of like how they get there. And it's just like, I don't know, you don't see anything happen, okay? But I think it's a clever game changing movie because this nobody ever did this at this time.

00:28:44:14 - 00:29:16:05
Speaker 1
Nobody ever made a movie like this unless you were in fucking high school, you know what I mean? And you're showing your class like somebody made a fucking knish national motion picture that went out into, like, every movie theater just with the whole bureau cameras. And I think it's like his work. All right? Yeah, I think. Yeah, like, kind of maybe, like, I think it's a game changer because I think it was just like it was an idea.

00:29:16:05 - 00:29:39:08
Speaker 1
It was like, fuck it, let's try it. Let's see how it happens. It became a cult classic, but like, yeah, by far is not a good movie, but like, I think it's inspired things like to do this kind of reality. Like footage. Yeah, I make a whole fucking movie like that, but like, I don't know, it wasn't Cloverfield or something like that.

00:29:40:01 - 00:29:42:06
Speaker 2
Cloverfield was kind of in that type of.

00:29:42:18 - 00:30:03:18
Speaker 1
Right where it was like somebody had like a camera, but then there was like an objective camera that like, you know, was, yeah, you got you the audience just watching that and not really. It wasn't like there was a character in the movie holding that camera is what I'm saying.

00:30:04:08 - 00:30:13:07
Speaker 2
So in that genre, another one that's kind of like that, that yeah, actually was pretty good was Paranormal Activity. That was pretty creepy.

00:30:13:17 - 00:30:14:09
Speaker 1
So that was.

00:30:14:09 - 00:30:14:14
Speaker 2
Like.

00:30:16:15 - 00:30:18:06
Speaker 1
That was set up like a documentary.

00:30:19:23 - 00:30:34:23
Speaker 2
Kind of, sort of. It was like people were having stuff going on at their house. So it's first person type viewing of like people trying to document stuff happening in their house and like things would move and shit and it was actually yeah.

00:30:36:05 - 00:30:40:15
Speaker 1
So I mean it was the whole movie like through the perspective of a computer.

00:30:40:15 - 00:30:46:12
Speaker 2
It was like it's like if you had a camcorder at your house and you were trying to catch like stop happening.

00:30:47:04 - 00:30:48:19
Speaker 1
Or but there was never like it out.

00:30:48:19 - 00:30:51:19
Speaker 2
Like watching them sleep and stuff to see what it would happen.

00:30:52:01 - 00:30:59:07
Speaker 1
But there is never like a cinematic camera on the outside that was like watching like the set up. Okay.

00:30:59:17 - 00:31:09:20
Speaker 2
Now, now. Oh, okay. So that I don't even know what type of, you know, film filming you call that, but I'd say it's like almost reality. Yeah, I guess. Yeah.

00:31:09:20 - 00:31:13:20
Speaker 1
First person. Yeah. Reality filming self, you know.

00:31:14:04 - 00:31:24:06
Speaker 2
Those that both of those movies, both Paranormal Activity and the Blair Witch Project's sequels or sequel movies were all trash.

00:31:24:22 - 00:31:27:12
Speaker 1
And they were more on the cinematic side, though.

00:31:27:21 - 00:31:52:10
Speaker 2
The second one of of Blair, which was cinematic. The third one was the weird one that was trying to kind of do a callback to the first. Yeah. And then it just got way out of control, like where they took it. Like they're in like a house in the woods and there was aliens and stuff and like it's just yeah, that was just a dumb one.

00:31:53:04 - 00:32:02:17
Speaker 2
But yeah, I can agree. I mean, it was what they did was very innovative, right? It did. Where it worked or what they were trying to pull off and they did a good job.

00:32:03:01 - 00:32:22:10
Speaker 1
That's why it's getting my number one here for for that is like I'm sitting here watching it because like, you know, spoiler alert at the end there it was. He runs downstairs, he jumps through the floorboard in the basement. And then I'll say, you just hear him get knocked over the head and the camera falls.

00:32:22:21 - 00:32:23:03
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:32:24:06 - 00:32:49:23
Speaker 1
And then all of a sudden sorry. And then all of a sudden, yeah, she comes running down crying and then jumps down and she gets knocked in the head and it's over. And it was like two. It was very dramatic the way it ended. It was like nothing after that. It just ended. And it was and I actually I watched on Peacock so it might have been edited it never mind.

00:32:50:16 - 00:32:55:15
Speaker 2
No it's just like yeah I see.

00:32:56:01 - 00:33:27:06
Speaker 1
It was really overdramatic and then too like I think for people that would have been out in the field for that long, like out in the woods that long, I think they would have been in worse shape. Like they were pretty well-rested. Like, Yeah, you know, the chick had some bags under her eyes, but like, I don't know, I think they would have just looked sick, like, and they didn't really look like that.

00:33:28:01 - 00:34:00:21
Speaker 2
But see, I'm a sucker for the slasher movies. I just think that is kind of the epitome of scary movies, you know? Yeah. Like the the Friday, the 13th, the, I mean, again, the, some of the newer ones like the, like the Blair Witch Project and stuff like that. Like they did take it to a different level because they had, they had to figure out something different.

00:34:00:21 - 00:34:24:16
Speaker 2
It wasn't just the same, you know what I mean? It wasn't just the Oh, here comes a guy with a knife and he's going to stab me. And then there's another one and here's a boob shot, and then here's another one, you know. But that was like that was like the basic layout of a, of a slasher film, you know?

00:34:25:04 - 00:34:26:14
Speaker 1
Yeah.

00:34:26:14 - 00:34:39:14
Speaker 2
Killing people, whatever reason, they need to kill people. Couples trying to do it in the woods or wherever. Nudity and more killing. So.

00:34:40:12 - 00:34:41:08
Speaker 1
Absolutely.

00:34:42:16 - 00:34:47:01
Speaker 2
But but what's so if that's your first? What's your second?

00:34:48:16 - 00:34:49:17
Speaker 1
Oh, my second.

00:34:50:06 - 00:34:50:22
Speaker 2
Yeah. Well, it's just.

00:34:50:22 - 00:35:18:00
Speaker 1
Like which is really like my first, but yeah, my second. Not really just this year because I've, I've done some new movies here. So Bram Stoker's Dracula was one that I watched your this year. I watched you because of Megalopolis. So I wanted to try to understand Francis Ford Coppola because Metropolis was a terrible movie that I didn't really understand.

00:35:18:00 - 00:35:45:03
Speaker 1
And I wanted to see if I could, you know, gain some understanding, which I felt like a little bit after Dracula, just kind of seen how he did some of those scenes, like how he he could show a past scene and stuff like that. Like, I guess what I mean by like a past scene, like, you know, from like when he's thinking about the past, when he's in in the past or something like that, it's like a dream state almost.

00:35:46:01 - 00:36:12:20
Speaker 1
And it's, it's like a little Tim Burton ish. And then it kind of gets really up close. And I don't know, it's not like Tim Burton ish where it's like that weird, cartoony, like, but it's like kind of is. And then all of a sudden it's this more live action. Um, yeah. More realistic setting. But yeah, I thought it was a good story.

00:36:12:20 - 00:36:44:19
Speaker 1
I mean, between I, we call it Wynona Rider and then I can't think of his name. I got I do have it pulled up here. Very. Yeah, yeah. You'll lose control and then you'll just kill somebody while sucking their blood and then you'll fully become a vampire. But there I think there's ways around it where I will, because he, he did like all the taxidermy stuff.

00:36:44:19 - 00:37:18:06
Speaker 1
So he had all those dead animals, like avid hunter. Right? But like some of the craziest things. So there's a theory that he was. Yeah. Stealing their bloods and stuff like, you know, those animals just drinking like the animal, killing the animals and living off the blood and being like a half a half vamp. And then like, yeah, he would still age at that point, but it's just, you know, some of that fang shit, some of that.

00:37:18:06 - 00:37:20:18
Speaker 1
Yeah, fang dreams.

00:37:21:00 - 00:37:27:13
Speaker 2
I think that's far fetched, but maybe I'll have to rewatch again and had to think of that.

00:37:27:13 - 00:37:30:20
Speaker 1
Yeah. So what do you got next?

00:37:31:13 - 00:37:57:07
Speaker 2
Um, I mean, I was going to go with another or. But you know what? I'm going to hit you with one of my favorites, which is that it's a Halloween movie, but it's not. Yeah, I don't particular find it scary but the movie scream okay if you watch that movie every Halloween time period.

00:37:57:17 - 00:37:59:22
Speaker 1
I haven't seen it in years. Yeah.

00:38:00:02 - 00:38:12:14
Speaker 2
Something about it. I mean, part of it too is I mean, growing up watching that when I was younger and had a huge crush on Jeff Campbell, which was like just smoking hot back in the day.

00:38:12:14 - 00:38:18:17
Speaker 1
Was it Shannen Doherty to Doherty? Oh, now, probably.

00:38:21:04 - 00:38:24:03
Speaker 2
Matthew Lillard wasn't, you know.

00:38:25:09 - 00:38:27:06
Speaker 1
Wasn't Freddy Prince.

00:38:28:07 - 00:38:28:13
Speaker 2
Now.

00:38:29:05 - 00:38:33:15
Speaker 1
Oh, I'm just making up names now.

00:38:33:15 - 00:38:35:09
Speaker 2
Jamie Kennedy was as.

00:38:38:08 - 00:39:01:02
Speaker 1
Or is what was the movie or the guy? The Jamie Kennedy also playing that other movie, that spoof movie. I remember the officer doofy. It is. He walks out of the station like he's, you know, doofy. But then it's just walking. He's just ripping clothes off. And then he starts walking like a normal person.

00:39:01:02 - 00:39:02:05
Speaker 2
And yeah, he.

00:39:02:08 - 00:39:04:13
Speaker 1
Has like a mustache. And yeah.

00:39:05:17 - 00:39:07:03
Speaker 2
I think I know.

00:39:08:00 - 00:39:18:12
Speaker 1
I don't know, like, isn't it like a scream parody? It was.

00:39:19:00 - 00:39:23:09
Speaker 2
Scary movie. Scary movie. Yeah. With Anna Faris.

00:39:23:20 - 00:39:37:07
Speaker 1
Right. And then there was like a one where Charlie Sheen got real popular too, with like it was a big deal that he was in that movie or one of them at least.

00:39:37:19 - 00:39:39:00
Speaker 2
He was in one of those.

00:39:39:06 - 00:39:43:23
Speaker 1
It was like one of the selling points of the movie was Charlie Sheen's fucking in this.

00:39:44:14 - 00:39:46:21
Speaker 2
I think he was in like one of the.

00:39:46:21 - 00:39:56:22
Speaker 1
Was that the movie too where at the end they have sex and the the chick like explodes.

00:39:56:22 - 00:39:57:08
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:39:57:21 - 00:40:01:12
Speaker 1
And then, like, the dude's like, stuck on the ceiling or whatever.

00:40:02:04 - 00:40:30:19
Speaker 2
Yeah. And then that's also the second one is with Chris Elliott. He's got a strong oh my God. But I mean, so that even tells you even more that that's that scream was such an influential movie. You know what? I never realized that Danny Masterson had a brother, Christopher.

00:40:30:19 - 00:40:31:05
Speaker 1
Really?

00:40:32:09 - 00:40:40:10
Speaker 2
Yeah. He's in a bunch of movies, too. Are you? I wonder if he's use the brother on Malcolm in the Middle.

00:40:42:03 - 00:40:44:10
Speaker 1
No shit.

00:40:44:14 - 00:40:47:00
Speaker 2
You're right.

00:40:47:00 - 00:41:00:07
Speaker 1
I think I knew this at one time and forgot this because it certainly makes sense now. Oh, dude, he's the good brother. Unless a Scientologist. If he's a Scientologist, I can't fucking trust them.

00:41:01:15 - 00:41:02:09
Speaker 2
That's a.

00:41:04:10 - 00:41:22:04
Speaker 1
C personal. A Scientologist. No, it doesn't say anything. It is Wikipedia. God, Francis. Yeah, he played Francis. Francis motherfucking Francis.

00:41:23:05 - 00:41:23:17
Speaker 2
It's weird.

00:41:25:06 - 00:41:33:23
Speaker 1
Francis wasn't Deadpool. He's like, I'm looking for Francis.

00:41:33:23 - 00:41:35:18
Speaker 2
A C? Is he a Scientologist?

00:41:37:13 - 00:41:40:21
Speaker 1
I don't know. That's the that's the million dollars, right?

00:41:40:23 - 00:41:45:18
Speaker 2
He is like his brother. He is a follower of Scientology.

00:41:46:00 - 00:41:49:08
Speaker 1
Oh, God, you poor souls.

00:41:49:22 - 00:41:50:21
Speaker 2
They got him, man.

00:41:50:21 - 00:41:58:09
Speaker 1
You just giving them. You know what? Like this. The thing about Hollywood, man, you're either fucking Scientologists, like, pretty.

00:41:58:09 - 00:41:58:20
Speaker 2
Much.

00:41:59:08 - 00:42:01:20
Speaker 1
Slave to giving all your money away to them.

00:42:02:13 - 00:42:03:11
Speaker 2
Or you're an atheist.

00:42:03:19 - 00:42:08:20
Speaker 1
Or no or you're getting fucking sexually abused. You get your fucking roles.

00:42:09:03 - 00:42:11:22
Speaker 2
Or you're doing that Scientology too, though.

00:42:12:10 - 00:42:44:01
Speaker 1
Yeah. What the fuck? No, that's what I'm starting to realize. Like, there's got to be a new wave for entertainment. Like, there's got to, like, people like us got to step up and create this new, like, this new society where people don't sexually abuse each other for power and stuff. Like, like Hollywood is like I am now convinced that 100% of everybody that is now like a famous actor had to do something to get there.

00:42:44:10 - 00:42:47:12
Speaker 1
You know what I mean? Like, that's just not right. Like.

00:42:48:03 - 00:42:57:10
Speaker 2
They they somehow infiltrated that, you know, just like Hollywood somehow and just I honestly do.

00:42:57:19 - 00:43:19:10
Speaker 1
I think it's been going on since the silent film era, you know, and it's just like, Oh, you really want to do this, your chick, you want to do this thing. Like eventually Drew Barrymore is like great grandmother or whatever. Like, you know, the Drew Barrymore. I think the Barrymore is were like in like huge silent films slash like, you know, like basically from the thirties.

00:43:20:04 - 00:43:27:10
Speaker 2
Yeah. They sold Drew Barrymore, though, to Hollywood was I mean, she was going to club. She was at like Studio 54.

00:43:27:10 - 00:43:27:23
Speaker 1
I know that's.

00:43:28:01 - 00:43:29:17
Speaker 2
You out with adults and shit.

00:43:30:11 - 00:43:57:13
Speaker 1
Like that's what I'm saying. Like, you know, it's just like it's all part of the game. It's like, yeah, don't worry. It doesn't matter if your guy sucks some dude off, you're going to be rich and famous, you know, like, that's the Diddy way, you know? I guess it's like coming out like Diddy and like Jay-Z. You're like that, you know, like, they're bisexual, and it's just like, holy shit, what's going on here?

00:43:58:13 - 00:44:24:17
Speaker 1
It's corruption after corruption. And just yeah, it. I'm just convinced that, like, you know. Well, because that's the other thing and you find out like, like do and I was a kid and, I saw the Backstreet Boys, like, in, like the MTV's and all that shit and on all the magazines and all that. I sat there thinking to myself that those, you know, those fag boy looking dudes are rich as fuck.

00:44:25:10 - 00:45:03:14
Speaker 1
You know, the truth was they weren't they were like, probably no, had no more money in their pockets than I did. And they were just being fed little scraps while this fucking weirdo guy was just profiting off of them. They were making millions of dollars, but they weren't getting millions of dollars. They were getting like, I think there is a check at one point for 10,000 and that's when they had to go to court and that's when they ended up like those two bands got their fucking the rights to their, their music and all that shit.

00:45:03:23 - 00:45:04:09
Speaker 2
Mhm.

00:45:04:19 - 00:45:07:23
Speaker 1
So I don't know that's just fucking Hollywood dude.

00:45:08:05 - 00:45:22:04
Speaker 2
I mean not to get even further into it but I mean just think of it this way. The timeframe that you're talking about when the, the silent film era which was what, 19 2230s. Somewhere around there.

00:45:23:02 - 00:45:26:22
Speaker 1
Yeah. Or nine, maybe even 1900, I don't know.

00:45:27:21 - 00:45:45:02
Speaker 2
But there was a large migration of certain people from Europe that, started taking over the film industry around that time period. And then all of this started happening.

00:45:46:04 - 00:46:14:20
Speaker 1
Well, regardless, it's just like I guess it just in today's age, we're finding out people with power and money are doing some weird fucking shit. I mean, and you got to sit here and think, No, no, I'm just sitting here that back in the day it was happening. It was even happening even long before then. Like, yeah, it's been going on since the Romans and the Greeks, the fucking Egyptians, the fucking ice wall ins.

00:46:15:20 - 00:46:38:00
Speaker 2
But it's all when the, the two largest major ones that have been contributing to this are taken down and their last name are Epstein and Weiss. It doesn't really look good when there's a large percentage of a certain population that are in control that type of genre.

00:46:38:18 - 00:46:40:21
Speaker 1
Yeah, well, I'm going to tell you what.

00:46:40:22 - 00:46:53:17
Speaker 2
Saying I mean it. You're in charge of that. If they are in charge of that, there's a large population of it, then obviously there's the percentage of them that it could happen to be them is higher than to.

00:46:54:17 - 00:47:25:13
Speaker 1
After watching that that Corey Feldman thing that the Howard Stern Club. Howie. Mm. Like I'm convinced that Howard Stern's got to be on a list. Yeah. So everybody I sent shared a video of Howard's or Corey Feldman playing on some 1990s Howard Stern show called Club Howie. And Howard Stern was wearing a bald cap. He was talking really fucking weird, like this big jag off.

00:47:25:13 - 00:47:48:06
Speaker 1
And he was just wearing these super short shorts. And there is a point he bent over to the camera and the shorts were so short that you saw his butt cheeks and he's just like slap in his ass. Like, You don't care. It's so fucked up. And that was the nineties, man. That's what's crazy is the that was the fucking nine used.

00:47:48:13 - 00:48:11:04
Speaker 1
That's so we sit here, we keep saying we love the nineties, we want the nineties back, but then fuck dude, that's what was going on, you know, like that weird shit was going on and now it's like, I don't know, kind of blast now. Like, people get so offended by that shit. Now it's not there, you know? Cause, like, now they think about it.

00:48:11:04 - 00:48:27:01
Speaker 1
It's just like, you know, it's really weird that you did that and it's even weirder that that guy talking about how people have fucking sexually abused him throughout his career in Hollywood and, you know, and it's like, wait in the nineties.

00:48:29:10 - 00:48:37:02
Speaker 2
Again, his last name is Stern. Yeah, that's often the case.

00:48:37:12 - 00:48:41:09
Speaker 1
But what do you say about Kevin Spacey, though?

00:48:42:19 - 00:48:49:12
Speaker 2
It's it's Kevin Spacey was just a weirdo. But I mean, he paid off his people and they didn't care.

00:48:50:04 - 00:48:50:13
Speaker 1
Yeah.

00:48:51:00 - 00:49:16:14
Speaker 2
So, I mean, that's the problem. I mean, if you've got enough money, you can like with the rest of everything else that goes on, you can pay people to shut up and people will take that money and just deal with it. I mean, if that's what they need to deal with that trauma, but it's not. It's just helping perpetuate the issue because that means that as long as they have a bunch of money, I can do whatever I want.

00:49:16:22 - 00:49:18:21
Speaker 2
Right. So.

00:49:19:15 - 00:49:32:17
Speaker 1
Well, what I will say is we trailed off from those videos quite a bit. That's fine. It's a great show we had here today. Well, I think we'll end it on that. No.

00:49:32:17 - 00:49:33:00
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:49:33:14 - 00:49:58:21
Speaker 1
But everybody remember, it's Halloween. Make sure you know, make sure you're checking on your kids. You should know of the fucked up shit. Make sure you check the candy. Should not like eating razor blades. You know, I don't know if people spike candy still, you know make sure some get make sure they know not to jump in a white man with a guy that's got a bunch of candy, you know, just the basics, people back to the basics here.

00:49:59:23 - 00:50:22:13
Speaker 1
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00:50:22:20 - 00:50:25:07
Speaker 2
But it truly is so.

00:50:25:21 - 00:50:35:05
Speaker 1
But thank you for joining us for 86. Happy Halloween. We'll see you next time. We'll see if your 87 piece is.