Cosplaying At Conventions & Convention Etiquette | Cutting Edge Cosplay #2

In This Episode Your Cutting Edge Cosplay Hosts Give Their Advice For Cosplaying At Conventions And Convention Etiquette. 

Staring TheRebeccaRose, ThunderbunnySFX, BearsRawr,  and DanimeDarling. 

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Transcript

Rebecca Rose: 0:13

Welcome to cutting edge cosplay podcast where your fellow Geek Girls hang out and talk all things cosplay and bears has a very, very nice custom piece that she made and I need more information. Can you please tell us the process the ins the outs? Everything's because it's gorgeous. If you're not watching the YouTube you have to you it's great. Wait show the back too

Dani: 0:39

yeah, pretty impressive.

Rebecca Rose: 0:42

Those of you who are on Spotify bears is wearing a completely handmade corset with the cutting edge cosplay logo on it. And it's this beautiful like hexagon fabric like so Pro. So cute.

BearsRawr: 0:55

I love it. on. Joanne's.

Rebecca Rose: 0:57

So how did you decide to make this?

BearsRawr: 1:00

So it was an accident?

Rebecca Rose: 1:02

Perfect. I love it. This is a good start the best projects yep, I was scrolling

BearsRawr: 1:07

through Instagram, happy accident. I'm surprised I'm on Instagram right now. And I was scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, liking things I liked. And I came across this design that like an artist had done the artists name is Dean underscore G Kane. And I tried to scroll past it. And I just couldn't it was this beautiful Wonder Woman but Wild West version. And so it's like, that's so beautiful. So she has like a leather corset instead of like, like her regular blue one. And I was like, Okay, first of all, dope design. Second of all, I've never worked with leather before. And it would be kind of fun to make, like a leather corset for Wonder Woman like, okay, cool. So I reached out to the, to the artist and like made sure he would be okay with me using his design because you can't just steal somebody's art. And very nice he was. So that was great. And so I was like, okay, leather is a little bit expensive. So I want to plan out the corset before I just start cutting leather. And so I was figuring that the best way to do that would be to find a corset design. Obviously, that's kind of sort of the same, like style as the one that he designed. And so I found one is a free corset pattern by Aranea Black. And she's like this incredible seamstress that I follow on YouTube already. So if you don't follow her, she's so talented. So I found one of her free patterns, and I made a sizing. So you can see on this one, it's like this brown. That's like this really stiff material, which is like kind of why I chose it was because it was super stiff. And like leather doesn't have a lot of stretch to it. So I was like, Okay, this is going to be perfect. And I got it to more or less fit, and I knew where I would need to modify it. So it matches the art artist's rendering a little bit better. And I was like, feeling pretty confident. I was like, Okay, the final thing is just to make sure that all my pattern pieces are the right size and shape. Let me look up how to attach leather pieces together because I was like, ready to roll on the leather parts. So I look up a tutorial, and I found one by Prince armory, who does like really beautiful, like designs and patterns and stuff. And as I'm watching it, I'm realizing that they're doing certain techniques that are spritz the leather with water and then form it over a plastic or metal dome so that it's the right kind of shape when you go to attach things. certain segments will need to be pre crimped to make sure that they will attach properly. And as I'm watching it, my mind is just going huh fabric was the wrong pattern material. I should have made this whole thing out of foam. But, okay, it's already basically made so I was like, Okay, I knew that we were recording today. I was like, I'll just put a cover on it. And so I duplicated the pattern pieces to make the outside layers and sewed them all together and made it work. So here we go. This won't work for its intended purpose. But it's pretty cute for just it's super cute. So

Rebecca Rose: 4:28

girl, Oh, I'm so impressed.

BearsRawr: 4:31

So if you ever need a corset pattern, Oh girl, I can't sew I but something Aranea Black taught me lots of tips. Follow her look it up. There's free patterns. There's free YouTube videos that show you how to use the patterns like this one ended up a little bit big because it was a sizing thing. So I'm going to be doing lots of tugging today. Just ignore it. And then Yeah, follow Dean underscore G cane because he is an incredible artist, and I'm really inspired.

Rebecca Rose: 5:09

That's great. You're doing that I'm following them right after this episode. I'm following right

ThunderbunnySFX: 5:14

now. Instagram already.

BearsRawr: 5:19

So like, Guys, if you see artists who do something that you really like, just ask them if you can use it as your inspiration. And they might say, No, it's their. Like, baby they made it. But if they say yes, then you guys can collaborate in this kind of fun. Respect. I love Wonder Woman. I think she's really fun. I have a couple of versions of Wonder Woman. I don't know that I've worn them out a whole lot. But it's pretty great. Because it's one of those characters that kids recognize. Yeah, and cosplay is fun, no matter what character you do. But there is a special kind of heartwarming when you're just walking around a con floor. And a little tiny little girl comes running up and asks for a hug, or a picture or, or just to look at you like it's inspiring. And so those are the moments when I always get super into characters when I see those little eyes like, light up like when you go over. I know this character. Yeah, you're there. You're the hero.

Rebecca Rose: 6:26

Yeah.

ThunderbunnySFX: 6:27

So I'm on the opposite side of that where I enjoy being the villain. Okay. Yes, like I see those eyes light up, but they're not like with excitement. They're with fear. And it's great last Halloween, I was a scarecrow with like a stitched up mouth. And there were certain kids that would just like, stand in the hallway, like a room away, just kind of like, Oh my gosh. Like, where they're just like, staring in awe, but a different kind of awe and like, oh my gosh, this thing's gonna haunt my dreams for the next three years.

Dani: 7:03

You leave a lasting impression.

BearsRawr: 7:08

So do you get into character like it? Does that kind of inspire you to become more like you're kind of walking around and you see that fear? And you get a little bit more like, a little bit

ThunderbunnySFX: 7:17

more sinister? Yeah, it's definitely just like, how can I make like the stitched up mouth look creepier. Or let's just like open my mouth a bit and like show the skin stretch. Like, perfect,

Rebecca Rose: 7:29

like Danny's having a very visceral reaction.

Dani: 7:32

I was there a guy there at the holly party when she like she was stretching out she even like, I think she did this just to freak me out. But she like stuck out her tongue was like strings. And I was like, I am a little bit of a wimp. And I was just like, but you're my best friends. So I got I gotta still be here.

ThunderbunnySFX: 7:54

Like shove food through the holes and stuff. So there's like the functionality part of it. But I'm like, eh this is okay.

Dani: 8:01

You are so creepy. But we got to take a selfie.

ThunderbunnySFX: 8:07

Let me pull my hat down a little bit to get a little bit more shadow here. Make the eyes pop.

Dani: 8:12

Oh my god. That's torture.

ThunderbunnySFX: 8:15

But you love it.

BearsRawr: 8:19

So how important do you guys think it is to be in character? And like what I guess? When do you think it is important to be in character? Like say you're at a convention or you're at a party or you're just walking around downtown or whatever a shoot

Dani: 8:35

down when I think when they start to get attention. So like if a photographer is taking pictures of them or somebody like you said like kids are running up to them, then it's like their time to shine. And I think it's really important because it definitely brings out it brings your cosplay to a whole nother level. And everybody around you just get so fazed by it. They're like, wow, that is great. Like, you're almost be like the actor is like actually there. I love it. I love being in like at conventions and seeing when people who are in cosplay, just get into character and start like acting and everything. I'm just like, that is so cool. That is so cool.

ThunderbunnySFX: 9:13

I feel like that's kind of the Disneyland mentality to where it's like little kids. They're excited because like this hero or whatever that they've had in their dreams and been imagining about forever. Like they're real. They're here like and then to be in character. It can also like do the opposite effect of just completely shattering dreams. If you're not like, matching that like that energy at least you know.

Rebecca Rose: 9:39

That's true, I think. I think it depends. I think I don't even know if I want to say more often than not, but I think it depends on the setting. It depends if you're on or off like if a kid is running towards you. Be in character. If you're in a photo shoot, be in character because that's going to translate in the photos immediately. Um, if you're at a convention, sometimes yes, but sometimes you're getting from point A to point B. And if you're, you know, if you're like a creepy Scarecrow, and trying to like, drag your leg or something all the way from like one booth to the next might not be effective. And so I think it depends because acting takes energy. And if you're in a character that's very dissimilar to who you are, it's gonna be harder, and you're gonna be real tired by the end of the day. And so I think it's fair to take breaks, to know when it's helpful to be in character and when it's not. And for some folks, interacting with someone who's in character, and won't break character can be really uncomfortable to when they're just like, okay, but like, what's your Instagram handle? And they're only in character and not speaking? Or something like that. It's just like, okay, but like, Come on, help me out here. So I think it depends, like it depends, but it's very immersive. I like it,

ThunderbunnySFX: 10:50

that would be a good situation where a handler would be helpful, too.

Rebecca Rose: 10:53

True. Very true. We're having business cards,

Dani: 10:56

I also saw when we were at PAX that some people who were in things like that, cosplay had their Instagram handler tag, their Instagram handle, or at their at on their weapon or on something that they were just saying, like, like loud and clear, like, so they like didn't any picture also that they had taken of them would have their tag in the photo?

Rebecca Rose: 11:22

Oh, it's like a live watermark? Yeah, that's a good idea. Wow, everyone

BearsRawr: 11:28

thought about doing that. Also,

Dani: 11:29

you don't have to run up to them Be like, what's your Instagram? And then maybe spell it wrong.

Rebecca Rose: 11:36

i didn't hear that. it's this dot this.

Dani: 11:39

Get out your phone right. Now. Let me see.

ThunderbunnySFX: 11:42

Let me just for you, it's fine.

Rebecca Rose: 11:44

Well, Bears what do you think? And what do you think about being in character versus not versus all that jazz,

BearsRawr: 11:49

I think being in character can be fun, I think that it definitely has a time in place like. So if you're playing a character like Harley, or Deadpool or Joker that are naturally over the top kind of characters, you're going to need to be a little bit more mindful of the space that you're in, and the people that are around and whether these actions are landing the way that you expect them to, because if you're overly familiar with people that you don't actually know, or you do know, and doing the kind of over the top, like hugging and getting in people's space, like pranks, pranks, it can be fun. But read the room because it can also make people extremely uncomfortable. And especially at convention settings, where you have people who are quieter and much more confrontation averse. You're going to need to do that legwork for people in a couple situations, especially if you're the kind of person that wants to be that big. You have the is the owness is on you to make sure that you are making people comfortable, because you're in control of that situation at that point. And it's not fair to make people uncomfortable.

Rebecca Rose: 13:04

And that shy person might not tell you exactly, they're uncomfortable. And they might just deal with it. But inside they're like shriveling up and dying, or like putting themselves somewhere else or just trying to like, ignore it. And that's also not fun for anybody.

BearsRawr: 13:19

And especially if everyone else looks like they're having fun, they're not going to want to speak up and be the downer of the parties. So make sure you're paying attention to the people around you. It's also really helpful I found because I've got a couple of characters that I can get a little bit like into Yeah, it's really helpful to have a friend or a handler, who is you guys come up with some kind of before you even enter the con floor or the shoot or whatever, come up with some kind of

ThunderbunnySFX: 13:50

what's the word like a safe word,

BearsRawr: 13:51

a safe word or like a wink or facial expression. So tell us some story. Que. Yeah, there we go. Some kind of que where like, you're stepping over the line. That's not going to be like a call out in front of everybody. But it's just like a tone it down a little bit kind of thing.

ThunderbunnySFX: 14:09

A couple notches.

Rebecca Rose: 14:10

Yeah. Just and then the opposite side of that spectrum of toning down. Which is not to say people should tone it up if they don't want to. But there are some characters who are very closed in very quiet sometimes don't talk at all or are, you know, intentionally painfully awkward, which is great. Like, there are absolutely wonderful characters who fall into that. And if some people are interacting with you and want to know about your cosplay or want to ask you for a picture, and if you're just like, awkwardly not looking at them and really quiet. That's okay, if that's who you are, and that's your personality and you're uncomfortable. But notice that that might also make somebody else uncomfortable. Like if I'm coming up to, you know, Bunny, and bunny has a really, really quiet character or something like that. And I'm saying hey, like I'd really love to know your Instagram handler can get a picture with you and if you just like don't give them any sort of anything a nod or verbal anything. It can be

ThunderbunnySFX: 15:06

Yeah, right. We were talking about L from Death really awkward. Note a while back ago, like that one is definitely a good example of kind of an awkward character. And a good example of someone that maybe should either break character or have a handler that can Yeah, break that line for people who are excited for that character and want to, like interact in some way.

Rebecca Rose: 15:30

Totally. Or if you have an SFX, and you can't actually open your mouth. It could be helpful to have a handler or have some cue cards and say, like, like a yes. cue card for Can I take a picture? Yeah.

ThunderbunnySFX: 15:40

Yeah, take any kind of like, physical cue, I guess, to show like, what's okay or what isn't?

Rebecca Rose: 15:48

Because either way, you just don't know, you can't assume what somebody's boundaries are or are not unless you ask. Even if it's like a picture at a convention, say I see bears, I'm like, Oh my gosh, can I get a picture with you? It would be rude of me to throw my arms around her or put my hand on her waist or touch her prop, or touch a costume piece that might be more fragile than you realize.

BearsRawr: 16:11

Or if they're wearing body painted time on my props. Yeah, um, don't touch them,

Rebecca Rose: 16:15

or wearing body painting. You don't know if it's gonna transfer to you, but they know it's about to transfer to you. Ask someone before you touch them for any any scenario. But especially like, if you're taking a picture with them at a convention just asking it. It's no big deal. It's two seconds, people will appreciate it.

BearsRawr: 16:32

And if you're doing so, like say, you see another cosplayer, and you're really impressed. And you're like, Yo, I want to take a picture with that color and you're in costume to maybe you're from the same universe, maybe your characters or like your characters are in a relationship. So it's kind of like a fun picture. It's not breaking character to ask if it's okay to touch them. It would be rude not to please don't touch anybody unless they say it's okay. explicitly.

Rebecca Rose: 17:01

Yeah, like if we go with the Harley and the Joker dynamic, which is its own thing. But say you're cosplaying Harley, you see a joker, you guys want to get some cool couple shots at the con. Like, do you That's awesome. And ask, Hey, can I hug you? Hey, can I like put my head on your shoulder? Hey, if you're the Joker, maybe ask if you're gonna like touch someone's neck or like your hand over someone's mouth or something like that? Because that's not okay with some people. And some people are totally comfortable with that. So just asking, it's no big deal. Have you ever

BearsRawr: 17:30

run into any like, situations where that might have been?

Rebecca Rose: 17:33

Yeah, I one of my first conventions this was ye old Rebecca. At Sakura con, I was a character from Bleach, which we had talked about. A couple episodes ago, somebody asked to take a picture with me. And they kind of like put their hand on my shoulder, but it was fine. And I was like, Oh, whatever. They took a picture. And then they picked me up and started to walk away. what? so like a minor kidnapping occurred. Like, where are we? Like, where are we going? And I was a minor. I was very shy did not have confidence at all at that point. So I didn't really know what to do. But I was like, Hey, where are we going? Oh, my friends are over there. I gotta go like and kind of like squirmed my way out of it. And like went to my friends were not nearby. Like no one was nearby. And it's like, I know them. And I kind of went towards them so people can cross lines very quickly. It's it can get can get interesting. Yeah. So be careful. When you're like catching this

BearsRawr: 18:33

you probably know not to physically pick people up and walk away with them one would hope, just in case you need that reminder.

ThunderbunnySFX: 18:42

Or ask permission first. Yeah.

Dani: 18:45

Just don't do that to strangers don't

BearsRawr: 18:48

know, don't even ask strangers for permission. Like

Rebecca Rose: 18:52

don't kidnap people. Maybe don't. So that's that conventions, when to be in character? What about shoots? Is that different? I think

BearsRawr: 19:03

that shoots personally, it's great to be in character because like you said earlier, it completely changes the way that the pictures turn out if you're in character versus not.

Rebecca Rose: 19:15

How do you get there? Like how do you get into character for a photo shoot.

BearsRawr: 19:18

I watch a lot of videos if possible. So like for Akali, I watch a lot of I watch a lot of gameplay videos. Or for Snow White I just rewatched the movie a couple of times or whatever and just kind of like find certain mannerisms that are like more kind of more on brand for that character. And just try my best it's research. Yeah, research.

ThunderbunnySFX: 19:48

Hey bears I think even for Akali like you even kind of started getting into putting a playlist together right that kind of like matched her vibe kind of so even when you're crafting or like doing makeup or something like that it was like, themed, right?

BearsRawr: 20:04

Yeah, we actually, um, I well we, I make my own playlist depending on the character. So I've got, like, a lot of playlists on Spotify right now that are character specific because then as I'm crafting the character or doing my makeup or practicing poses or whatever, I can kind of get into that headspace and vibe and kind of like, okay, yeah, I feel a little bit more hardcore now or I feel a little bit more cutesy or whatever. And that's really helpful. Actually, Rebecca, you have a ton of really good playlists, too. And that's kind of influenced me to do that. Oh, dear. I

Rebecca Rose: 20:40

didn't know that. Oh, that's cool. No, I absolutely have playlists help me get into character before the shoot. But also, like, with the photographer's permission, I'll say, Hey, can we play music while we're shooting, because it's 100% doable, but it can be a little awkward if it's very silent. And it's just click, click, click, and then like the sound of heels and then click, and it's like, if you have music, it feels more relaxed. Because there's background music, like think of going to a restaurant, and there's no music, you just hear plates, and silverware and stuff. And that's kind of awkward. But if there's music and just noise, there's music, it's just more natural. And if it's in character, like if I'm doing a shoot for Evelyn, from KDA, play that KDA like, album on repeat, which, if it's a long shoot, I'll probably mix it up, because there's only a couple songs, but that helps, like, get you into character. If you know the dances, it helps remember some of the poses that might actually translate well to like pictures. And so I think music is super helpful. And it makes it less awkward. Yeah, and you could do a funny little dance in between, like shots and stuff and keep the energy up too. Right.

Dani: 21:46

It definitely makes you feel more relaxed. Yes.

ThunderbunnySFX: 21:49

Would you say that helps more with like, the confidence side of things, too. Yeah, I'd

Rebecca Rose: 21:53

say so. Yeah.

ThunderbunnySFX: 21:55

Yeah, no confidence is really something I struggle with, with photos being kind of a more like, introverted person in general. Like, I am out outgoing in ways but like, overall, my What do I do with my hands? Like, I can hear songs, and I can like watch videos and like, try and get into the mood, but at the same time, there's still like, the sudden like stage fright. You know? Like, how would you guys like get past that?

BearsRawr: 22:20

I do a lot of what would this character do? Yes. Where it's like, okay, I'm uncomfortable. With Snow White be uncomfortable? No, she'd just be here. Wonder and awe, I'm looking for a bird.

ThunderbunnySFX: 22:40

Like, yes,

BearsRawr: 22:41

I'm not quite as like low key and nonchalant. But I play a lot of characters that are and so if I'm getting a little bit too, like, in my own head, because I definitely at shoot to get in my own head a little bit. I try to be in character as much as possible. But sometimes it's like, you start thinking about like, like, you say, like, what do I do with my hands? And that can really pull you out of it. So sometimes it's just like, stop, take a breath. And just do a little bit like, what would my character do? Like say, say that character was right here right now? And like literally doing a photoshoot? How would they in character? Be like, Harley is not going to be nervous. True, Harley is going to take control of the situation and do something wild. Okay, well, then all I have to do is do something wild, let's do it. It's kind of like, talk yourself out of it in your own head. And that's how being in character can be really helpful. But the thing about shoots specifically, is you also have to be a professional. You can't just I don't know you have? I guess it depends on what your photographer is okay, with, but like,

Rebecca Rose: 23:51

are you talking about like the difference between having like three to five go to poses at a convention versus being at a photoshoot or convention, where it's a little bit more flowing, you're more in character, rather than just, like, still still by still kind of a thing? Yeah. That kind of what you're talking about?

BearsRawr: 24:10

Yeah, kind of, and also being aware of, you have to be more aware of the lights and everything else. Like there's a lot more going on in a photoshoot than like it's true. What's in your own head. So I don't know just, I guess take every situation with a open eye of what's going on. Be a character that's helpful only, but be ready to follow directions also.

Dani: 24:33

Yeah, because like the photographer might not know who your character is or what type of personality they have or what they do with their weapon or whatever. They're there to take photos and maybe video and so it's it's really up to you to be the person to show them what you can do like what that character does and can do. And it makes it more interesting than just oh, this is another person in another costume. So I feel like you need to kind of like play around with that. That's kind of like your job, if you want to take it to that note that level. I know. It can vary from people who do just do like poses or they're just showing off their costume and stuff. And that's totally fine. But if you have, if that's a goal of yours to want to bring out that character, there's a lot you can do. So like, I know, I've been to a bunch of conventions. I've never really been in character I've never like acted in character with something that I've like, cosplayed before. But I do see sometimes I'll hear somebody doing a voice like, like, actually voice acting that character's voice or like certain sayings that they memorize from the show or the game or whatever. And I just like you, like, you turn like what? Like, really? So cool. And then like, or if they like, you know, move their weapon or whatever the way that that character does, like, there you can there's a lot of things you can do to really elevate your cosplay and be more in character. So yeah, it was like kind of like voice acting Have you guys ever done like voice acting or like

Rebecca Rose: 26:11

just voice acting a goat as we speak. no? So there there are some like Evelynn I'll, know, a lot of her game voice lines. And her voice. Not to say that it's similar to mine, but it's not an accent or it's not like super high or anything. So I can pretty easily do Evelynn, it's

ThunderbunnySFX: 26:37

just a good, sultry, right. It's

Rebecca Rose: 26:39

just like, bring it down, things a little slower. And they're kind of more dangerous. And based on her voice line,

Dani: 26:46

do you have a line that you can say, in your bag of tricks

Rebecca Rose: 26:50

on the spot? Oh, was it as good for you as it was for me? Oh, no, too bad. Also, then there's the flip side of things. If somebody has, like a very in character accent, like if I were to do Merida

ThunderbunnySFX: 27:10

you wouldn't be able to understand me doing that I

Rebecca Rose: 27:12

wouldn't I wouldn't be able to do it. And I feel like just myself. If I'm going to do it, I want to do it right. And I'd be too nervous to like not do it well, and so I wouldn't do the accent but somebody else might be willing to attempt. I don't know, it wouldn't be me. So I don't

BearsRawr: 27:26

know. I love merida's as body language. I have a lot of fun with that. Because it's kind of how I am anyways. It's just kind of like, we're doing this thing. And we're saying this thing. And yeah, if you can't keep up too bad. But I cannot do the voice and I'm not going to try you kind of the same reason because like, Yeah, I'll be embarrassed. I don't know how to do accents in general. I wish I did. Because I think those are so good. When people can do those. Yeah, like, that's a skill set. skill set. Yeah, if anybody wants to come in and teach me how to do an accent workshop. But no. Um, so for Merida I kind of just go with the vibe of it, which is really helpful in photoshoots less helpful at cons because if you do the vibe, and they expect the voice because you're literally face to face. I'll do it anyways though. Like,

Rebecca Rose: 28:22

I'm kind of thinking about the difference between like photoshoots and cons, but I think one section we haven't talked about is like a subsection of con which is like the vendors floor and shopping and walking around the halls that are sometimes very crowded.

Dani: 28:38

So sometimes I have to Yeah, some advice that I think would be good for new cosplayers who've maybe never been to a convention or this is their first convention or first few conventions is to have certain costumes or certain days or just know like kind of plan a schedule where it's like okay, so I'm going to be showcasing my cosplay being character for a certain amount of time on the floor where the photographers and the other cosplayers are, but then also I want to maybe you're only there for a day which is common. Maybe you just kind of set some times for yourself where you're just like okay, well then at this time I'm gonna go eat I'm gonna go and although concept Yeah, I'm gonna go to the Art show or like the vendors floor kind of keep that in mind because like what you're I think you're about to start talking about Yeah, transitions into that yeah, so you you're going to break character eventually and I think that is a good spot for it.

Rebecca Rose: 29:39

Yes. And something to keep in mind is not just if you're in character or not, but how much space you take up depending on your costume Yes, bunny.

ThunderbunnySFX: 29:48

Bunny. I have experience with that. So for example, I'm I have multiple options for my Ahri costume because she has nine big ass tails that can take up a lot of space. And so um, for example, one of the first places that I cosplayed her at was an after party where I knew I was going to be in like a cramped bar and everything. So I only made three tails, because sometimes she has 1, 3, 9, whatever depending on like what ability she's using. And, but these are just like small little limp tails, They're maybe like a foot and a half long that just like kind of droop down from like my lower back. And that worked well for dancing on a dance floor, or navigating through a crowd. Whereas then I also have like, the real tails, where it's like all nine of them, and they have lights in them and they like it's a huge bustle of tails. And I'm, I'm not about to wear those to a dance floor just because I don't have the space for it. And I don't want to whack people with my tails. And if bears when she's trying to jump over me as Akali I want her to be able to like clear me instead of like tripping and causing a scene lost to the tails. Like they're all over the place. But no, like instead, like, so, I know, it's one of those things where like, each of them are set up in a way where I can just like quickly, like, tie, or untie them. And then like let's switch out my tails for this situation like, this is a more casual area or a more cramped area. So I should use my like little limp three tails versus like my big nine tails that take up all this room. So having like little alterations like that, like the base costume is the same. It's just something where I can change that one aspect and it makes it so much easier depending on the situation. Like if I want to go eat somewhere, I don't need all of my stuff hanging out everywhere. And like depending on how like cramped the area is, like there's there's a place and a time for different things. So I'm like, I don't need the lights and my tail and like everything, like I don't need to go all out all the time. So that's, that's my little two cents there. I

Dani: 32:11

suppose like if you have a cosplay that takes up a lot of room. There are areas to wear those things. So normally there's like, a lot of cosplayers hanging out outside of the convention, or there's like a convention hall where most of the cosplayers and photographers hang out at. So like I would say a good example is to not wear stuff like that, where you're in line going to a panel and needing to sit in a little tiny chair

ThunderbunnySFX: 32:38

and you can't fit in the chair. Yeah, but all this extra stuff going on around. Yeah.

Rebecca Rose: 32:45

Bears, I'm curious if you have a pro strat for props. So we talked about, like attached costume pieces, if you can detach something, but you still have like that last minute print that you wanted to pick up. How would you manage like running into the shop area, but you have a really big prop?

BearsRawr: 33:02

Just do it? No, no, no, no. Um, so I have for Sivir, a gigantic, I have the snow storm version of Sivir. And she's got this gigantic snowflake that is her weapon. They're like throwing weapon. Um, it's real big. So when I'm on the con floor, I don't really go into conflict with this costume. Because I did it once. And there are too many people in between in those little spaces between the booths. So what I had to do was like literally pick up the snowflake, hold it above my head the entire time was on this con floor because a I made it and I don't want it to get kicked by people or bumped into you. Because if you can bump into things and start breaking stuff, or to make people annoyed by having to like walk around this big old thing. So I had to hold it above my head and walk around with it, which was a great arm workout, but not what I was hoping for on that day. And so on props. You can leave it in the car. Yeah, if you brought your car or your

Rebecca Rose: 34:11

room trust or hold it above your head above your hotel head coat check if Yeah, code check or hold it right in front of your body. So at least like if someone's going to bump into you from the side it's not going to injure the problem I for Widowmaker I have her big 3d printed rifle that goes from like sniper rifle to assault rifle which is great and I am terrified of it breaking and so I'll either do like I'm going through the hall which is a little weird and menacing but it works or I'll like hold it really close to my body and just hug it as I'm going through the size of you. Just like hold it hold on to it for dear life. No one bumps into it but ideally leave it in the car or give it to a friend who can stay outside of like the vendors hall that would be thinking ahead, unlike me

BearsRawr: 35:02

to plan for it man. Like, if you have a big costume, maybe also bring a small one. Like so. You the if you have the opportunity to I know not everybody's situation is the same. But if you're only there for one day, maybe you bring two costumes, one for one for the photo opportunities and being out on the hall or in front of the con, or wherever their cosplay specific spaces, all of the cons that I've been to, which have not been very many to be, admittedly, um, but they have spaces that you can be in your big costumes, and people are really excited to see you, you'll get the like, one on one FaceTime and photographers and all that. But then scoot out to your hotel room or your car or whatever, and just change into something else. Like Rebecca's got a really great x 23. And, and I've got my Black Canary that I wear when I wear her specifically to go on the con floor because it's a more it's a, it's a regular outfit, more or less. And so it's not like taking up more space than I need to.

Rebecca Rose: 36:09

It's not big props. It's all pretty close fitted.

BearsRawr: 36:12

It's not a lot for me to keep track of. And that's, you know, yeah, kind of nice and 23. For me,

Rebecca Rose: 36:18

it's like no heels, great, like combat boots, leggings of crop top, a wig and claws that you can take off like that's yeah, you can get anywhere. And you'll be comfortable at the end of the day. So you might start the day with heels and then change like after lunch or something into something that doesn't have heels and your feet will thank you. Well, yeah,

ThunderbunnySFX: 36:38

that's my Yang xiao long like she's my party outfit. Those combat boots, I've got the gauntlet so I can feel like strong but at the same time, it's like a comfortable outfit where I can just run around and just be wild.

BearsRawr: 36:51

And like if you're going on the con floor, remember there's lots of people there. So if you have long dresses or something you might get stepped on or you might get just from like kind of walking by people who are wearing other clothes, like a dirty wearing other people wear clothes at conventions.

Rebecca Rose: 37:14

Never heard about this before.

Dani: 37:21

Oh my gosh, yeah, I'm just thinking of Emerald City. Comicon. And we're there. It's a very popular convention. There's so many people there, you're all squished. And then there are a lot of people are in professional like grade cosplays where they just they take up a lot of room. There's huge armor. And it's just like you feel kind of like oh, I can't I don't want to I feel like you're so like nervous to touch other people because they're all in their nice stuff. But then you're also in like your nice stuff and it can get to bump into people you mean Yeah. And I can't feel like that can get like kind of overwhelming. But it's like if as long as you have like a clear goal on where you're going to you're like it'll be fine. You just get through the crowd. You're good. And another like thing that we always bring up cosplay handlers and I'm starting to realize how important they really are or a friend. We could just say for all intents and purposes, a friend somebody that you're meeting with that may either not because playing or is okay with like helping you out with like holding your stuff while you get lunch or like if you want to take a break like if you are in like sivir or you're like nine tails and you're like hey, I really want to go take a quick peek around at the con or like just the merch vendors or the vendors Yeah Can you can you hold my tails? Can you hold my weapon for me? Well? Yeah,

ThunderbunnySFX: 38:47

well, and even sometimes just other people or friends cosplaying or whatever. Um, because like our KDA group, for example, like Ahri is like the diva of the group. So of course, I'm not going to have any pockets for a phone even because I'm taking selfies of everyone. But it's always been nice to have like akali there. Because she's got her little like side pouch. So I'm like, Okay, here's booty pouch. Yeah, so here's here's my phone and a thing of lipstick. Can you please just hold on to this for me?

Rebecca Rose: 39:18

Here's all of our IDs

BearsRawr: 39:25

over the glow sticks and if it'll fit

ThunderbunnySFX: 39:28

it'll put the glow sticks on so you can hold this here thank

Dani: 39:31

you each other out man. Yeah,

Rebecca Rose: 39:33

God bless people who build pockets into their character. Oh my gosh, or pouches of some sort?

Dani: 39:38

Yeah, utility belts, backpacks, thank

ThunderbunnySFX: 39:42

goodness.

Rebecca Rose: 39:45

Well, here's one thing we haven't talked about. So we've talked about etiquette as a cosplayer etiquette when you're taking pictures at a convention. What about the flip side? So etiquette with getting your pictures etiquette with how you work with a photographer at a convention Is that different than a photo? Shoot? Yeah, I

Dani: 40:02

actually don't know what it's like. Like, I mean, I've been to conventions, but I, I just kind of get overwhelmed or like nervous because I don't really go there with the intention of knowing how to navigate the whole, like photography floor, like, okay, so POV, this is your first convention, and you're wandering around, and you see all these professional grade photographers, they have like, all this stuff, and you don't you want to get photos, but you don't know where those photos are going to end up. You don't know how you're going to view them in the future. You don't know how to pose like, there's so many things. And so then you just don't go there. You just go somewhere else. So, so coming from that situation, I've never had my picture taken, like, where I've with the intent of like, I'm gonna go to that photographer and ask him, because I just don't. So how do I do that?

ThunderbunnySFX: 40:49

So I'm the same with I know, um, oh, I can't remember it was either Emerald City, or maybe it was Pax. And I was dressed up as Harley quinn. And um, it was a fun costume that I created, like all from hand, but I wasn't expecting to get photos. And like that was like, Why didn't I not think of that? So I didn't know how

Dani: 41:13

to happens. Yeah.

ThunderbunnySFX: 41:17

I didn't I didn't have any poses planned. I was just like, Look at this cool thing. I mean, I'm like running around the convention. And people are like, Can I take a picture of you? I'm like, oh, what? Sure. And then they're like, Okay, what's your Instagram? And at that time, I didn't have like, any kind of like cosplayer Instagram or anything? Like, I mean, I guess this, like, would you have a card? Thank you. Um, so I'm just collecting cards from people and trying to find myself to like, tag myself and things. But like, I just was so unprepared for any of that. Because there's just like, oh, yeah, I'm just doing a costume. And not even thinking of like that aspect of it. And so, like, I was not prepared in any kind of way. But at the same time, it was still fun. But like, what are you supposed to do? Like, how? How do you know? Yeah, what what I was supposed to do for that. Like, I mean, I got cards, I tagged myself and things. Business cards help

Rebecca Rose: 42:13

a lot. I had somebody who had like, the best strategy, which is so brilliant. Have I had business cards at the time, but I'm wearing a different cosplay every day. So that might not be helpful. If you don't remember, like what I was, and if my business card has like Starfire on it, but it was Widowmaker No way in hell. And so this person had me hold my business card next to my face. For photographers reference, this is the best idea. Brilliant. That's so good. Is that way they remember who I was? They have my business card. They know where to send pictures? Because they remember Oh, yeah, she looked she was purple. She was not this orange she's different color that day. Okay, so Rebecca green,

Dani: 42:56

full body paint cosplays. So, I've noticed,

Rebecca Rose: 43:02

but that was such a smart strategy. Wow. I know.

BearsRawr: 43:07

I would say for sure. One of my, like, whether I expect to get photos or not, whenever I'm making a costume. I like mostly usually as I'm crafting it, I start to come up with at least three to five poses that can be done anywhere. They're just really quick, like, I can do it, pop into it, pop out of it, whatever. And that. And the reason for three to five versus one is because I get bored doing the same thing over and over. But um, it's really helpful for being on the con floor for like, if fans of the character come up to you. And then you can just be like, Oh, go here picture. Yeah. And then you can do this one, we do this one, or do this one or whatever. And then when you're out doing photos with photographers, sometimes they only want one photo, but at least at the conventions that I've been to, they often want to do like a handful of them.

ThunderbunnySFX: 44:03

Because they have their own thoughts too. Like their vision and you have your vision. So it's trying to like match the set. Exactly. Yeah. So it's

BearsRawr: 44:11

a lot of it, it can be awkward if you don't have anything planned, because then you're trying to remember what the character even is as you're posing.

ThunderbunnySFX: 44:22

And that's that's the situation that I got into. who am I today? just Just hang on. I wasn't expecting this. So like to have that in your mind is definitely helpful.

Rebecca Rose: 44:33

Yeah, well, and if you have three to five poses or more if you'd like feel like brownie points. If you're planning to post those on social media, you don't want just the same pose for that character. It might be an iconic pose and like go for it. Oh, that's a good point. But it can be good to have variety because having the same picture three pictures in a row. It's not as interesting as having like three to five more dynamic. I

Dani: 44:54

feel like I ran into that when we did our KDA shoot where I was Kai'sa and like she does not Smile. Yeah, he's a very serious arms up a lot. She does a lot of the arm stuff. So that's that's kind of the only changes I did.

BearsRawr: 45:09

But it made such a big difference. You look great. And

ThunderbunnySFX: 45:13

I kind of see that too because like Ahri is definitely kind of like the pouty like I'm better than you look and which I'm totally not good at like, because I'm, I've got more of like a okay smile or like, Okay, how do I not smile? Okay, if I'm gonna be serious and I just look really mad instead of like, how do I do this

Dani: 45:34

not getting your way.

ThunderbunnySFX: 45:35

Look attractive and like seductive at the same time. It is just like all of these, like, I can't figure it out, just look like i've got like some weird facial problem.

Dani: 45:51

Sure, everyone can relate

ThunderbunnySFX: 45:55

to also helps. Everything's fine. It definitely does help though. If you're in like more of a like, set situation, to have like a mirror so you can actually see what face you're doing. Um, or another thing that Dani did, and like one of our recent shoots was like printing out the photos. Because like, yeah, you might like save screenshots of like your ideas or your poses or whatever on your phone. But then, like, they're hard to come across when you're actually trying to pose or like your phone is the one that's being used for the photos. So like, printing stuff out, and then like practicing them in a mirror to like, Okay, I think I'm doing this but like, Okay, I'm not actually doing I need to, like change certain things. And like, actually, okay, this is the look I want. And then like practice, like so it feels comfortable, right? And I mean, that's something I'm still working on. So for

Dani: 46:55

some photoshoots, we kind of cheated. Like, we took those pictures, and I just use some like little washi tape. And I just stuck the washi tape on the picture that we were trying the facial, you know, like the facial features or expression that you're trying to do. And I put it on the photographer's tripod. I need help.

ThunderbunnySFX: 47:14

These are like life hacks right here.

Dani: 47:16

Not helpful at a convention. I don't think that's gonna be

ThunderbunnySFX: 47:21

for photo shoots, maybe

Dani: 47:22

you know, the photographer won't be okay with you doing that. But

ThunderbunnySFX: 47:25

yeah, that was really great. But also to prepare for like a photoshoot or a con instead of like, running into the convention, like not even expecting photos like me just super naive. I'm actually having like some practice that like, okay, like, at least I know is supposed to feel kind of like this, even if that's not quite right, at least puts you in the right direction versus like, oh my gosh, like, I totally forgot everything. Like, I don't remember what I'm supposed to do. Who did I dress as today, like just the total freakout mode, you know, like you want to, like at least have some, okay, this feels familiar, like, ya

Dani: 48:01

know, a couple poses that, you know, like, you got this, you got this, you can do this. And then you have a little bit of variety when multiple people will tell you and stuff, especially at conventions.

ThunderbunnySFX: 48:11

And that also helps to build confidence too. Because if you at least have a few things in your mind of like, okay, I've done this before, I've practiced it in the mirror a million times, like, you know, kind of right at least like this, this should look decent. And like, it'll it'll help with that. Well, so

BearsRawr: 48:27

as far as getting to taking those pictures. Definitely walking the floor and the outside area is super important. Like on the on the convention floor, you may or may not get pictures and the pictures that you get are going to have people and booths in the background. So that might not be the vibe that you're going for. If it is and you just want a picture of your cosplay while you're out and about great. But you can't really rely on there even being photographers there is the biggest thing. So if you go out onto the photo area, two things might happen. One, somebody will stop you and be like, Hey, do you want to take a picture? Great. In that case, you don't have to work very hard to take the pictures ready? Yeah, exchange information, which we can talk more about in a second. And just, you know, do your thing. If you're feeling like a little bit more. You know, you want to take pictures and you don't want to wait for anybody to come up to you. You could just go up to a photographer and ask if they would mind Don't be like take my picture.

Dani: 49:38

Like me Oh, yeah, me. Yeah.

BearsRawr: 49:40

I mean, it goes it goes back to the read the room kind of thing. If you do that people are gonna be like, okay, but if you just go up and like respectfully be like, Hey, I worked really hard on this costume. Do you mind taking my picture?

Rebecca Rose: 49:56

Yeah. And just like how they asked for your picture. They might say oh my gosh, I love your cosplay, I'm a huge fan of this, can I take your photo? You can also say, Hey, I saw you doing a photoshoot with this person, it looks like you really know what you're doing. I would love to be a part of that. Do you have time to take my picture? Because yeah, they do really good work, too, and deserve a compliment as well. And that's a great way to help them be like, oh, yeah, I do want to work with you.

ThunderbunnySFX: 50:17

Let's do it. Yeah, an interaction that goes

Dani: 50:19

Mutually beneficial, their equipment is real expensive. Oh, both ways. yeah. I feel like people don't realize how expensive cameras and some people bring their own lights and stuff too and they're like everything, their whole, like getup is super expensive,

ThunderbunnySFX: 50:33

the time it takes to edit things to like, yeah, all that energy. And

BearsRawr: 50:38

like, I know, a lot of photographers, they're all awesome people, like they are not here to like be judgy, or anything like that. I don't know. And, but like, also keep in mind, you're awkward at a convention. They're at a convention too. I bet you some of them are awkward too like, you will be doing them a favor of saving them the time of having to come up and ask somebody, it's stressful from either side. So just ask if Ask and you shall receive. Just remember, everyone's there to have a good time.

Rebecca Rose: 51:11

Well, here's a twist on that. So we're talking about, you know, you can ask the photographer, the photographer can ask you, what happens if the photographer doesn't ask you and tries to take your picture without you knowing? Because that happens to so I'm curious. And yeah, curious how you might address that kind of a situation. If somebody's taking your picture without your consent.

Dani: 51:31

If I'm in the like, main area where there's it's all cosplayers and all photographers, I'm okay with it, because it's out of your control. You can't It's so loud, you can't even hear. But if it's like randomly, like say I'm like, eating, or I'm like shopping or something. I mean, it's annoying, but my personality type is not the type to be like. The weapon that I have, I mean, I'm okay with it. I guess it's out of my control in my eyes, because I'm not willing to put the work in or the effort into like, ask them like, what are you doing? Yeah, but it's, I don't know, like, and also, I feel like But though that when that happens, I just expect that I'm never going to see those pictures, because you're probably not. You don't know who that photographer is. You don't know what he posts those pictures to. So I'm just like, okay, whatever. But you could ask, you can be like, Hey, okay, let me get your card at least Hey, buy me a drink. And I'm just kidding. Yeah, it is a really kind of awkward situation. But, but if it's in like the main hall, where it's all cosplayers, and there's so much going on, it's super loud. Like, I just kind of expect it there. But other than otherwise, like, if you're in like a hallway or something, something where you can actually hear each other, like, you might want to say something. Like, where are these going to? Do you have a card? Like? Yeah, let me know.

ThunderbunnySFX: 52:57

Give me credit. Yeah.

BearsRawr: 53:02

I don't actually usually even notice I'm very like, caught up in whatever I happen to be doing right now is what I'm focusing on.

Rebecca Rose: 53:09

You and I are the opposite. But because I am like, hyper aware of my surroundings, I feel like sometimes it brings me out of the moment. So Well, I wish I was more that way. But it led me right in the middle of the great powers combined. My

BearsRawr: 53:25

heart. Luckily, my handler is very aware of everything at all times, always. So if he does the thing, where if you see somebody taking a picture, he has his little backpack, and he'll go up to them and be like, here's her card, if you want to, if you're posting it, please tag her in it. And so lets them know that we're professional, and we expect you to be professional too. And it calls them out like you did not get any away with anything sneaky. Yeah, and like, kind of just put them on the spot without putting them on the spot, or anything. Yeah, just kind of like a

Rebecca Rose: 54:06

Yeah, I have a couple strategies for when that happens. Because it does, um, obviously, if it's inappropriate, do whatever you feel like is the safest thing to do in that moment, whether it's chew them out for it or leave. Because people are sometimes really creepy. But if you notice someone like across the hall or whatever, is sneaking a picture of you and you're not ready. Like as a cosplayer, you put so much time and effort into this, you want your picture to look good. And it behooves them for you to think you look good, because you're more likely to post it. But if I noticed somebody taking my picture without my permission, I might either cover my face. So now you don't get a good picture unless you ask me. I might stare at them. Just see, if they notice that I noticed that they're taking a picture without asking me and usually they'll put their phone down because it's usually the cell phone pictures that are that are more Oh, wow, yeah. Or I'll go up to them. They'll say, Hey, did you want a picture? And if they're like, oh, yeah, that'd be great. I'd be like, cool. Just ask next time, please. You don't have to be mean about it. But it's like, hey, I want you to get a good picture. So let me help you to get a good picture. And that way they're aware. And usually at the end, they'll be like, just please ask next time, some people don't like it when you take their picture without their consent. Now would I have said that six years ago in my cosplay career, no, that takes confidence and comfort. But it's happened enough where I've, I've grown those muscles, to be able to say, hey, please, please ask next time. Just out of respect, I wouldn't take a picture of you without your consent. So yeah,

BearsRawr: 55:43

I really like that these days. Again, at least at the conventions that I've been to, they have these big giant, like, Banner boards that are like cosplay is not consent. And here's all the actions that you can take, if you see something inappropriate, like See Something, Say Something kind of stuff. And I love that because it sets the expectation that this is going to be a safe place, and that people are going to be looking out for it.

Rebecca Rose: 56:06

Oh, yeah. And looking out for each other.

Dani: 56:08

Yeah, it's a complete different world than it was like 10 years ago. And I do appreciate those like banners, because also like for somebody like me, who doesn't have the confidence in those like you said, those muscles. So bunny, are you going to be joining us?

Rebecca Rose: 56:30

For those listening and not watching bunny just crawled her way across the room to get back in her chair.

Dani: 56:35

You didn't even bring a drink? What was that?

ThunderbunnySFX: 56:40

I mean, I already finished your drink earlier.

Dani: 56:43

I feel like that's gonna be a thing. Every episode where Bunny just finishes my drink for me.

ThunderbunnySFX: 56:48

You've refilled me last time. So I mean, we're feel that positive reinforcement here. Sure.

Dani: 56:55

So yeah, I feel like maybe it's because I just don't have a lot of experience cosplaying. Where I still need to, you know, work up those flex those muscles work up those muscles to be able to, like, go up to people and be like, This is what I'm okay with is the right boundaries is what I'm not okay with that kind of thing. Yeah, I think that's like, super great advice for anybody even like, first people, like, if that's like your first convention, there's a lot to consider. It's a crazy place, going into a building one building where there's like 1000s of people is not something that you do every day. So there's a lot of things to consider, or at least kind of like know about a little bit beforehand. So I feel like that's some really great advice. It's okay to talk to somebody directly. I mean, like, hey,

Rebecca Rose: 57:41

well, and chances are either you know them, and they want that feedback anyway, or you don't know them. And they won't remember that conversation. Like it's, it's not as big of stakes as you think it's going to be.

ThunderbunnySFX: 57:51

For sure. Which is always hard to remember, for some of us. Yeah,

Rebecca Rose: 57:55

we totally has. Yeah, sometimes I have to be more in character and be like, X 23 would totally call him out. I'm gonna approach them. Let's go. Inside. I'm just like, my heart is like, Yeah, I'm just like, Oh, my God. This is scary. But like she would do it. So let's

BearsRawr: 58:14

and if you're a cosplayer, and you see that somebody's uncomfortable, you can step in. Yeah, if you're more competent in doing that, like, again, like I like you were saying, I wouldn't have been super comfortable doing this when I first started. But as I've aged, I've become wiser. And I give so many fewer fucks. Yeah, so like, if I see that bunny is feeling uncomfortable with the way that a photographer is acting, but she's too nice to say anything about it. I don't mind stepping in and being like, hey, either depending on the situation, like, hey, we need you over here for this other shoot. Or that totally goes

ThunderbunnySFX: 58:57

back to the idea of other cosplayers. Like being like handlers and a sense of like, covering each other's backs. Yeah, so like, I mean, you are already holding my ID anyway.

BearsRawr: 59:10

And if you want drinks later, you're leaving too.

ThunderbunnySFX: 59:14

My talking skills? What character am I today?

BearsRawr: 59:19

Oh i'm Ahri, I'll be fine.

ThunderbunnySFX: 59:23

Hair flip.

Rebecca Rose: 59:26

And more often than not the other cosplayer will be very thankful for you even checking in. Like, you might say, Hey, are you good? And they'll kind of nod or whatever and great, at least you checked. Or you might say, like if I didn't know bears, but I knew that she was uncomfortable. And I saw her from across the hall. I might be like, Hey, we're getting lunch, you're late. Do you want to meet up with us? And that gives them an option or an opportunity to say oh, yeah, sorry, sorry, I gotta go. And they don't know me. But they're welcome to come with me because now I'm in a safe space or, you know, don't assume someone's safe but that's a pretty safe thing to do. And then and they can either come with you to find their friends or have an out of the situation. But if they want to stay, they'll be like, Oh, just give me five more minutes. And they're welcome to stay.

Dani: 1:00:09

Yeah, it's not just photographers. I know. We're like, Yeah, they're not all evil or anything. Anybody? convention? Yeah. Where?

ThunderbunnySFX: 1:00:17

Events? Yeah,

Rebecca Rose: 1:00:19

it could be another cosplayer. Yeah, right. You know, someone else could be chatting you up about your costume and you're like, I gotta go. You're not cutting them off. Your friend might be like, Hey, we're running late for the students like Okay, bye. So it's okay to build an out for a friend or someone wearing

ThunderbunnySFX: 1:00:35

a stranger Annonimous?

BearsRawr: 1:00:36

Yeah. Just watch out for everybody. Safe con is better for everyone right?

Rebecca Rose: 1:00:45

Etiquette really just boils down to respect respect for yourself your hard work for the other cosplayers the other attendees the photographer's just be

ThunderbunnySFX: 1:00:55

be respectful for our next episode. That's respectful, what those are called. Some words they happen tell us more. who do you want to cosplay let us know on our Instagram or Discord server. So thank you for watching

BearsRawr: 1:01:23

because that especially as a time in place, it can be a lot of fun

Juan: 1:01:32

we have a lot of woodpeckers on the

ThunderbunnySFX: 1:01:38

the fireplace

Rebecca Rose: 1:01:39

they're in your chimney

Dani: 1:01:40

coming in oh my god, of course this.