Pesticides touch almost everything we eat, yet the system that governs them stays strangely invisible. Host Emilia sits down with Nick Mole from Pesticide Action Network UK (PAN UK), who has spent twenty years working to end the most hazardous pesticides and protect the people and biodiversity they harm.

They get into why regulation is always playing catch up, how lobbying and the revolving door decide what we are allowed to spray, the myth that we need ever bigger yields to feed the world, what organic really means for our health and for farmers, and PAN UK's famous Dirty Dozen. Along the way: the carrot that was never meant to grow, why a supermarket CEO has more sway than an expert, and the poisoned farmers almost everyone forgot.

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